In short
Breaking Points discusses results from the 8/19/26 primaries, focusing on a “shocking” DSA win in Florida (Angie Nixon over Alex Vindman) and broader U.S. political signals, plus Republican primary scandals and early indicators for Democrats.
Guests
No guest interviews are included in this transcript segment. Hosts are Crystal Ball and Sagar Enjeti (with mentions of Ryan and Emily as co-hosts/participants). Future guests are referenced: Jeff Stein (bond market/finance) and authors of a new book about the Israel lobby.
Guest backgrounds (referenced people)
Angie Nixon (Florida state representative, union organizer, DSA member; anti-Zionist/anti-genocide; pro–Medicare for All). Alex Vindman (Trump impeachment figure; MSNBC “resistance” profile; moved to Florida to run). Corey Mills (Florida GOP incumbent; multiple misconduct allegations). Dan Bilzerian (Republican primary opponent; described as anti-Semitic in discussion). Randy Fine (Republican winner; accused of bigotry; doorbell-camera mail-rifling incident mentioned).
Key claims
Nixon won statewide despite under $1M raised and “zero” TV ad spend; attributed to grassroots coalition and opposition to Gaza/Israel aid. Vindman is portrayed as entitled, avoiding forums, and out of step with Democratic base views. Republican Trump-backed candidates lost repeatedly.
Notable examples
Nixon’s Gaza/ceasefire stance and refusal of APAC/corporate PAC money; Vindman confronted on Israel war-crimes claims; Corey Mills’ domestic-assault/“stolen valor”/ethics/DOJ finance investigation timeline; Randy Fine mail-rifling video (called a federal crime).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOElection Results and DSA Victory
2:15 to 4:28
Discussion on the DSA's shocking victory in Florida and its implications.
“We have a great show for everyone, don't we, Crystal?”
Nixon vs. Vindman: The Primary Battle
4:28 to 6:50
Analyzing the primary battle between Angie Nixon and Alex Vindman.
“There were a number that we had our eyes on.”
Campaign Strategies and Voter Dynamics
6:50 to 8:04
Exploring the campaign strategies and voter dynamics in the recent election.
“A lot of specific policy demands and the thing that really has sort of coalesced that coalition is the opposition to the genocide in Israel.”
Grassroots Mobilization and Victory Factors
8:04 to 9:14
Factors contributing to Nixon's grassroots campaign success.
“There wasn't a lot of polling in the race, but the polling that there was had him up pretty solidly.”
Comparative Analysis of Florida and Michigan Races
9:14 to 10:51
Comparing Florida's primary election dynamics to those in Michigan.
“I think she really benefited at the end of the day from the fact that this kind of snuck under the radar of national attention.”
Electability and Candidate Comparison
10:51 to 12:39
Discussion about electability concerns and comparing Nixon and Vindman.
“And operating under the radar, to your point, Crystal, with no money on TV, I think you mentioned somewhere like$60 ,000 in paid advertising, paid media advertising total.”
Concluding Thoughts on Nixon's Victory
12:39 to 14:01
Final thoughts on the implications of Nixon's unexpected victory.
“I think Angie Nixon is a much stronger, much more compelling candidate.”
Discussion on War Crimes in Israel
14:01 to 15:24
Exploration of the ongoing conflict in Israel and accusations of war crimes.
“We both have the same training in war crimes, so we know that what's happening in Israel right now are war crimes.”
Angie Nixon's Stance on Israel
15:24 to 18:12
Insights from Angie Nixon's interview regarding U.S. aid to Israel.
“If you were elected to Senate, you know, how would you view our relationship with Israel?”
Political Courage and Democratic Base
18:12 to 20:24
Discussion on the importance of political courage in the Democratic base.
“she came to a conclusion about what was being done in the Gaza Strip.”
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20:24 to 21:08
Promotional segment for Odoo's all-in-one business platform.
“He had a fundraiser planned in Nantucket.”
Contrasting Candidates in Florida
22:11 to 23:35
Analysis of contrasting ideologies in Florida's political landscape.
“On the other hand, you've got for the governor's race, excuse me, you have David Jolly, who's actually a former Republican, who won the Democratic nomination for the governor's race.”
Election Dynamics in Florida
23:35 to 25:39
Discussion on the election dynamics and the implications for candidates.
“Emily, what do you think of that answer?”
DSA's Performance in Recent Elections
25:39 to 27:25
Review of DSA candidates' performances in Florida elections.
“DSA aligned or progressive candidates that we were tracking at the congressional level.”
Democratic Wins and Strategies
27:25 to 28:00
Overview of recent Democratic wins and their strategies in local elections.
“I think it really was Angie Nixon's unique ability to stitch together the DSA coalition with a lot of strong support in the black community that leads to her incredibly strong result there.”
Democratic Victories in Florida and Pennsylvania
28:00 to 30:44
Explore the surprising victories for Democrats in recent elections across Florida and Pennsylvania.
“That was one of the more symbolic strongholds of Moms for Liberty, Tanyol notes, which, by the way, in the grassroots conservative movement, that's nothing.”
Democratic Victories in Florida and Pennsylvania
31:19 to 32:39
Explore the surprising victories for Democrats in recent elections across Florida and Pennsylvania.
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Republican Primary Outcomes and Scandals
32:48 to 37:37
Delve into the outcomes of recent Republican primaries and discuss the scandals surrounding Corey Mills.
“Should we talk about what happened on the Republican side?”
James Fishback's Controversial Campaign
37:37 to 42:00
Examine James Fishback's campaign, controversies, and the dynamics of young Republican voters.
“47.8 percent for Governor Jay Collins came in at 25.2 percent.”
Analyzing Florida's Political Landscape
42:00 to 45:00
Explore the dynamics of a surprising election outcome in Florida.
“And we thought it would either be a total flop or, you know, something that was surprising.”
The Disturbing Randy Fine vs. Dan Bilzerian Race
45:00 to 50:40
Delve into the controversial primary race featuring two extreme candidates.
“Should we get into this Randy Fine situation here?”
The Disturbing Randy Fine vs. Dan Bilzerian Race
51:45 to 52:34
Delve into the controversial primary race featuring two extreme candidates.
“Bite into a stacked sandwich made with hero bread or a fully loaded bagel.”
Escalating Tensions in the Iran Conflict
52:46 to 56:00
Analyze the latest developments in the Iran conflict and their implications.
“Well, let's head over to the Iran conflict.”
US Military Strategy and Regional Vulnerabilities
56:00 to 58:00
Explore the failures of the US military basing strategy in the Middle East and its implications.
“to come back and rebuild our bases and reestablish the positions that we had previously.”
Impact of Rising Diesel Prices on the Economy
58:00 to 1:00:10
Understand how soaring diesel prices are affecting industrial costs and inflation in the US.
“So there's all kinds of people who would have all sorts of incentives to plant this intel and push it out to NBC News.”
Consequences of Diesel Costs for Farmers and Consumers
1:00:10 to 1:02:13
Learn about the ripple effects of diesel price hikes on farmers and consumer goods.
“Yeah, and so what we're feeling at the pump in terms of regular gasoline, there is a much higher price being paid for diesel.”
Iran's Response to US Pressures and Military Posturing
1:02:13 to 1:05:06
Examine Iran's military and diplomatic strategies in response to US sanctions and pressures.
“because this is the primary mode of shipping across the country.”
Iran's Response to US Pressures and Military Posturing
1:08:16 to 1:08:40
Examine Iran's military and diplomatic strategies in response to US sanctions and pressures.
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Transcript
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2:14Good morning. Crystal, I'm stealing your spot here. I'm saying good morning. I can't do it like you were Sox. But good morning, everybody. Welcome to Breaking Points. We have a great show for everyone, don't we, Crystal? Does Ryan normally good morning for you guys? He does. We let the lib do the good morning so that it's extra high energy, especially after a primary night. Yes, indeed. And it was a big one. Shocking DSA victory in Florida that pretty much nobody saw coming with Angie Nixon. She is the first DSA member in history to win a statewide election and be the nominee in this regard. So this is really wild.
2:50We also had a lot of action really across the country. Alaska, there was interesting things. You had scandal plague Corey Mills, who got ousted on the Republican side. Randy Fine made it through, but he maybe committed some federal crimes in the process. So take a look at some caught on camera moments from Randy Fine. Brace yourself for that one. With regard to Iran, the UAE is halting all trade with Iran after claiming that some missiles were fired in their direction. Jeff Stein is going to join us to break down what is happening in the bond market that's also very much relevant to Iran, both here and also our whole intervention with the Japanese yen failed.
3:25And that may also have dire implications for our bond market. He will explain. Trump's crypto scam company is now also a bank. So that's exciting. Something to look forward to, folks. And there's a new book out about the Israel lobby. We're going to talk to their authors. Very excited to speak with them. Yes. Much to discuss today. Now, as a reminder, if you haven't signed up for the newsletter, go to BreakingPoints.com. It's free. So all you have to do to get the newsletter is head over to BreakingPoints.com, sign up there. We're still doing a free month trial of a premium subscription at BreakingPoints.com as well.
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4:35This one I was aware of, but I can't say that I was really tracking that closely. Angie Nixon versus Alex Vindman. He was the sort of hero of one of the Trump impeachments. Nixon is a DSA member firmly on the left of the party, anti-Zionist, anti-genocide, pro-Medicare for all. She's a state rep and a union organizer. She is now also the Democratic nominee for Senate in one of the most shocking upsets I have literally ever seen. You can see the margin here, not particularly close at the end of the day. 56 percent for Angie Nixon to roughly 44 percent for Alex Vindman. Truly, truly a stunning upset here.
5:20There's a lot to say about what may have happened. But, Emily, one of the statistics that is the most shocking is Nixon did not even raise a million dollars. She came in, you know, just shy of a million dollars in terms of her raise. Alexander Vindman raised some 16 million dollars. She was you can't even say she was outspent on the airwaves. She did not spend on the airwaves. She literally spent zero dollars in cable and broadcast television ads. And yet here she has secured an absolutely blowout statewide victory. And it is a pretty stunning thing to wrap your head around. You just mentioned the spending gap here.
5:59Vindman obviously is known for being a resistance superstar on MSNBC all of the time. And you mentioned this, was kind of running on being a resistance superstar. Had lots of ads about his role in the Trump impeachment effort. and has seen, at least here in Washington, D.C., as somebody you'd think would be a shoo-in over a DSA candidate if you talked to Democratic Party consultants up here six months ago. I don't think they ever would have seen this coming, especially if just on paper you mapped out the spending differences, Crystal. But it looks to me like a win for the DSA over the resistance in the primary that the DSA has replaced the energy of the resistance, has almost, dare I say, refined the energy of the resistance into something that's much more compelling to voters?
6:46Well, certainly has a much more materialist and ideological perspective. A lot of specific policy demands and the thing that really has sort of coalesced that coalition is the opposition to the genocide in Israel. I think that has been very central. I think we can't underrate how important it was even in the state of Florida, which is part of what is crazy. I just want to emphasize again, there has never been a DSA member to be the major party nominee for a statewide race. This is a historic national first. It has never happened before. And so I think a lot of conventional wisdom is still coalescing about what the hell just happened here.
7:26But let me throw into the mix a few factors based on what I can glean about how this race unfolded. And by the way, I've interviewed Angie Nixon a couple of times, very impressive leader, very bold, very courageous, has really sort of stood out in the Florida legislature. So I think she really was known in the state. She was kind of a known commodity. Vindman moved to Florida. His brother, in fact, represents me here in the state of Virginia. So I think there was a sense, OK, this is a carpetbagger, number one. Number two, I think there may have been a sense of entitlement there from Vindman. He's looking at all of the massive millions of dollars in financial advantage, all of the backing from the establishment.
8:04There wasn't a lot of polling in the race, but the polling that there was had him up pretty solidly. So he didn't feel like he had to do that much other than just put up some TV ads talking about his role in the impeachment and call it a day. I know there were a number of forums that he refused to attend that he wouldn't show up for. He wouldn't really engage with Angie Nixon directly. So I think that sense of entitlement may have been an issue as well. And then when you just add to that the fact that you have this major ideological divide between the party establishment and the Democratic base on issues like Israel, certainly on issues like Medicare for all and on issues of the general orientation of the party and how bold they want to be in terms of the politics that they are pushing going forward.
8:49So I think Vindman didn't meet the moment in any number of ways. And then the last factor I would put into this mix, Emily, too, is we watched in Michigan how that race really closed down the stretch because you had so much national spotlight. You had tens of millions of dollars flooding in and negative, very deceptive ads about Abdul Al-Sayed. He still is able to pull it off almost miraculously, but very much closer race than was ultimately expected. I think Angie Nixon benefited from the fact that this flew under the radar, that people were not nationally paying attention to this, that you didn't have tens of millions of dollars coming in to trash her and smear her and create a negative impression of her in the state and among the Democratic base.
9:32I think she really benefited at the end of the day from the fact that this kind of snuck under the radar of national attention. And it also one other piece that I'll say here, and someone made this comment online, Angie Nixon, I think also Donovan McKinney up in Michigan, really show the power of when you can combine that DSA, young, college educated and frequently white, although that is changing, demographic based alongside with a lot of credibility in the black community. that is a really unstoppable coalition, especially in a diverse state like Florida. And so she really put it together. And it's a stunning victory.
10:11Right. So that would distinguish her, of course, from Wisconsin and Michigan. We're also, by the way, there was a lot of DSA energy to counter the energy from the establishment coalescing around people like Haley Stevens or David Crowley, for example, because there were these polling, I don't know if you call them mirages, I suppose, at this point in the Francesco Hong race. it's not totally correct to call it a mirage because she still ended up with 40 percent of the vote, which is what a lot of the polls had her exactly at. But with these margins, the mirage style margins, I guess we could say that didn't happen here.
10:44There weren't polls dripping out over the course of the last month saying, whoa, there's a race. We've got a race on our hands here for establishment Democrats to say that. And operating under the radar, to your point, Crystal, with no money on TV, I think you mentioned somewhere like$60 ,000 in paid advertising, paid media advertising total. That's crazy. I mean, that is statewide in big media markets, very expensive, nothing on the airwaves, $60 ,000. I mean, that might be some radio ads. Maybe that was some like Facebook ads or YouTube ads, but it truly was a, an almost exclusively grassroots campaign.
11:25By the way, I don't recommend this campaign tactic. I would suggest that you do all of the above. But she was very limited in terms of her resources. So she did with them what she could. And obviously, there's no second guessing her now that she is the nominee. One more point I wanted to make, Em, about the under-the-radar element, because I do think that factor is actually really important. Another one that kind of was like that was Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan versus Angie Craig, where I think there were two dynamics there. Peggy Flanagan, actually, like Angie Nixon, ends up vastly overperforming her polls.
11:58So unlike Francesca Hong and Abdul Asaiyad, where they end up underperforming what was expected, at least in terms of their final vote margin, here you have two progressive women who have vastly overperformed their polls, both of those races really avoiding a lot of the national scrutiny. And then in the Peggy Flanagan case, I think the other piece is that there's not a lot of electability concerns there because Minnesota is seen as a pretty safe state this year. Florida, however, is a very different matter. Now, possibly Florida Democrats are not used to winning there at all. So they're just sort of throwing their electability concerns to the wind.
12:34The establishment would certainly tell them Alex Vindman is the one you have to elect if you want to have a shot here. I don't really buy that conventional wisdom, especially after we've seen what a poor campaigner he ultimately is. I think Angie Nixon is a much stronger, much more compelling candidate. But the traditional electability concerns would auger in the direction of, oh, you can't go for you. You may like her, but you can't go for her. Perhaps Florida Democrats are like, listen, we nominate your people all the time and they lose statewide. So what do we have to lose at this point? Well, yeah.
13:01So actually, Vindman raised buckets of money. I'm reading here from local media, which says that he was up through June. He had 14 and a half. He'd reached 14 and a half million dollars, 14 and a half million dollars in this race. I mean, that is stunning to lose and to lose by a pretty comfortable margin for Angie Nixon. This probably had something to do with it, Crystal. You mentioned the mobilization of the grassroots. Let's take a look here at Vindman being confronted over Israel at a recent campaign event, A2.
13:47I want to know exactly why you can't follow what's happening in Gaza, a genocide, even though the ICJ, the UN, the ICC, multiple human rights groups, including Amnesty International and Israel. What is your study? We both have the same training in war crimes, so we know that what's happening in Israel right now are war crimes. Guys, we only have time to hear your pictures. I'm not claiming. I'm using evidence base to know that There are lots of folks that... I am, but I don't think we're going to see common ground. You're staying in a position that's way outside of the norm. No, it's not way outside of the norm.
14:28And meanwhile, let's take a look at how Angie Nixon handled this issue, A3. We are at 10 ,000 dead Palestinians. How many will be enough? I also... One of my colleagues just said all of them. Wow. One of my colleagues said all of them. One of my colleagues also stated that this is going to dry up their fundraising if we vote on this resolution. I also want that like that's what we've become in this state. That's what we've become in this state where we don't care about innocent babies that don't even get the opportunity to blow out their first birthday candle. And Crystal, you and Kyle had Angie Nixon on KKF not long ago.
15:21Let's take a look here at A4 a bit from your interview. If you were elected to Senate, you know, how would you view our relationship with Israel? Would you cut off aid to them as one example? And, you know, what do you think that we should do with regard to that particular country? Yeah, for sure. So first of all, I believe everyone has a right to exist. That means I believe that Israelis and Palestinians should have a right to exist. I don't think our tax dollars should be going over to Israel to harm communities. And I would definitely be one of the ones that would vote against sending money to Israel, especially when we have people here in our state who are struggling.
16:06We have so many folks that are living unhoused and homeless on the streets, and that money could be better spent over here as well as spent to make sure that we have access to health care, which I know, I believe Israel has universal health care right over there. And so we don't we don't have that over here. And so I don't think we should be sending money to harm communities right now. So and what about for funding your campaign? You know, are you taking any money from corporate PACs, from APAC? How do you view that aspect of things? Because I think that influence of money is so pernicious. So let's be clear.
16:46I want folks to know that I don't need special interests or corporate PACs or anything like that to tell me what it is that my community needs or to get me to to vote a certain way when I become a United States senator. But I also want folks to know that I don't think corporations or APAC would want to send me money because I'm actually always fighting for hardworking folks and fighting for unions and that type of stuff. But no, we are not accepting APAC funding or corporate PAC funding. We're only accepting money from the people and from organizations that represent people. She leaned in on that issue.
17:31No question about it, Crystal. Oh, yeah. I don't know why I looked like Little Bo Peep that day, but anyway. I was saying you were giving Tradwife milkmaid. 100%. I think the overnight curls went just, like, a little too hard in the paint that night. Anyway. You just got done with the goats. Yep. Yeah, I was ready. Just as Kyle demands. Grab that, like, whatever that hook thing is, the shepherd's hook. I was ready for my day. Anyway, Angie Craig. Sorry, not Angie Craig. Angie Nixon. Angie Craig's the one that lost Peggy Flanagan. So that speech that you showed her giving on the House floor in the Florida State Legislature, that was in November.
18:08That was a month after October 7th. So it shows you how passionate and how quickly she came to a conclusion about what was being done in the Gaza Strip. The resolution she offered, she had one other colleague vote with her on that ceasefire resolution. So it shows a level of courage. And I think that that is part of what the Democratic base is really looking for. Where were you when it was hard? Not now that you can see the polls and it's, you know, the landscape has shifted and you know there's a political price to pay on the other side. Where were you when it was hard? And where were you on Donald Trump in the new administration when it was hard as well?
18:50And I think if you were willing to speak out against genocide in Gaza early when it was very, very difficult in the state of Florida, I might add, where it's particularly very challenging. That really augurs well in the mind of the Democratic base for how you will stand up for other issues of importance to them. You know, Vindman, I just have to go back to his comments there where he said something like, your view is so out of the mainstream. What are you talking about? Genuinely, what are you talking about? The majority of Americans, forget about the Democratic base, the majority of Americans view Israel as having committed war crimes.
19:28The majority of Americans want a complete rethinking of our relationship with this nation. And in the Democratic base, the numbers, even in a state like Florida, are going to be overwhelming in favor of blocking any sort of military aid to a country that has committed war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide. So he found himself, and this is, again, I think the arrogance of his position, he didn't even feel the need to try to moderate at all on the issue. He didn't try to pull like a Mallory McMorrow or some of the ones that, you know, try to try to at least moderate some of the language.
20:04I see you, I hear you. Netanyahu has been terrible. There's none of that. He just wouldn't engage at all. And so it shows you how on a step he was with the base and also shows you like a level of arrogance with which he comported himself, I think, throughout this campaign and ultimately led to his defeat. We can see the level of confidence put A5 up on the screen. He had a fundraiser planned in Nantucket. I guess he can still go. Nantucket's very beautiful, but nothing to raise money for at this point. This is Jacob Goldstein from What's Your Problem? Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other.
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22:44Let's go ahead and take a listen to how he fielded that question. Is this a state, Florida, that can elect you as governor, but also elect progressive Angie Nixon for the U.S. Senate at the same time? Well, we're going to find out. We're going to find out. Look, I reject the DSA. I reject socialism. I'm a capitalist and I think capitalism provides the greatest amount of economic mobility. I have been with Angie on the trail and I'll tell you this, she's a fighter. She leaves it all on the field. She goes in every room talking about what I talk about. Can we improve your access to housing, affordable housing, to health care?
23:18Do you know where to educate your kids? What is it the government can do where the private sector is unable to improve your life? Angie's out there fighting for those same values. I think she and I have a very different approach to this. But look, I reject socialism. I'm a capitalist. We'll see how Florida's voters sort that out in November. Emily, what do you think of that answer? Well, this is a man who worked in Republican politics starting in the 1990s. He was a lobbyist. So I think you're right. He probably does have a shot against Byron Donald, which of course we'll get to in the next block.
23:47And probably that will depend on swinging some South Florida voters, those types who are upset with Trump, might be upset with the affordability question and are also upset with socialism in a red state like Florida that is culturally very influenced by Cubans and Venezuelans who have moved into the state. So maybe he's the candidate on the gubernatorial level, but it'll be really interesting to see what these numbers look like come election day in November, comparing what it looks like for him versus what it looks like for Nixon. Absolutely. And I do think with Nixon, is almost like there's almost no downside here because she's not expected to win, right?
24:30No Democrat is expected to win Florida at this point. The state has shifted very hard to the right. I don't know what the Florida Democrats have been up to, but it hasn't worked out for them very well over the past number of years. Trump won the state, I believe, by double digits. You know, there's been a hard right shift in the state that is represented in their state politics and who they elect at the federal level as well. However, if she were able to pull off an upset, that would be completely stunning. But it is a different dynamic than, say, in Michigan, where it's like, OK, if Abdul doesn't win, then you guys' theory of change is really wrong because this is a state that's a swing state.
25:06It's the kind of place you have to be able to win if you're going to be a serious national movement and not just a movement of liberal urban enclaves. And this is a state that, especially in a year when Republicans are expected to do quite poorly and Donald Trump's approval rating is in the toilet, you should be able to win. Florida's a different dynamic. So going to be really fascinating to see how this race unfolds. Of course, she is a tremendous underdog here. But again, she was a tremendous underdog against Alex Vindman. And here she is, the Democratic nominee. A couple other races, and these went in the complete opposite direction.
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25:42DSA aligned or progressive candidates that we were tracking at the congressional level. It could put a seven up on the screen. Oliver Larkin, who we've interviewed a number of times, he loses to Jared Moskowitz in this South Florida district, 65 to 37 percent. To be honest with you, I think this is a fairly decent showing. This is about as tough a district, maybe the toughest district you could run in in the country as a Democratic Socialist. Massively outspent all of those things. But Moskowitz with the easy win here and we'll go on to the general election. Let's put a eight up on the screen.
26:17There were some unique dynamics in this race. And also worth noting here, all of these Florida districts got somewhat scrambled because there was a redistricting. So the original districts that Oliver Larkin and Jared Moskowitz were running in, that was changed. And then Debbie Wasserman Schultz, her district was redrawn. She decided to run in a district she does not live in, which also has been historically a black opportunity district and has had black representation for decades at this point. There was a lot of upset from local and national black leaders about her jumping into this race. However, you had a number of other black candidates, including Elijah Manley, who we interviewed on the show yesterday, who sorry, not yesterday, day before yesterday, who was the progressive in the race.
27:06So those candidates were did not consolidate that vote. Debbie Wasserman Schultz with 45 percent is able to win in this district that she does not live in and over the upset of some at least community leaders there. So that's another interesting one. But again, so it wasn't uniform DSA victories across the board. I think it really was Angie Nixon's unique ability to stitch together the DSA coalition with a lot of strong support in the black community that leads to her incredibly strong result there. Emily, any reflections on that? We also had some other Democratic wins in the state that are worth flagging.
27:41Well, just that because the maps were redrawn, Jared Moskowitz could well lose his seat outright. So, yes, beat the DSA candidate in that race. but he might not hold down a seat in the House of Representatives. Worth noting that. And Crystal, let's get to A9 here. This is from Tanyol, who notes, Florida Democrats flipped the school board of Sarasota County. That was one of the more symbolic strongholds of Moms for Liberty, Tanyol notes, which, by the way, in the grassroots conservative movement, that's nothing. That's fairly important because of the kind of 2020-era grassroots conservative movement, Republican Party organizing, Moms for Liberty was a decently important part of that.
28:19Also, the office of the school board chair in Orange County and an at-large city council seat in Jacksonville. So three things just right there. And in races, people weren't paying close attention to or super close attention to that went Democrats way last night. And one more. And by the way, Trump won Sarasota County by 18 points. There was another district put A10 up on the screen in Pennsylvania. They had a special election in the Pennsylvania legislature in a legislative district Trump carried by 18 percentage points. This is actually in Butler, Pennsylvania, where that assassination attempt on Trump's life occurred.
28:53In any case, at the time of this tweet, the GOP nominee was up by just 44 votes. Now the Democrat, all the vote is in, the Democrat is in the lead by some, I think it was roughly a thousand votes last time I checked, very, very narrowly. So last I checked, the race had not been called, But Democrats look to have flipped this special election in a district Trump carried by 18 percentage points. So, you know, definitely all the indications are that Democrats are in a strong position heading into the midterms. One more name check on the Democratic side is the Senate race up in Alaska. So the way they do this is it's a jungle primary.
29:32The top four, I think, move on. Mary Peltola and Dan Sullivan, the Democrat and the Republican, they were the top two. But everyone's paying attention to, OK, well, who will get more of the vote and what's the margin going to be? Peltola's got to feel pretty good because she was sitting at 47, I think, percent. And Dan Sullivan was down around 43 percent. So she secured more of the vote in this primary, showing, again, a lot of enthusiasm for Democrats, even in a more conservative state like Alaska. And that is one that Democrats really kind of need to win if they're going to have a shot at taking back the Senate.
30:04Yeah, big time. And by the way, just that Brandon Dukes race in the Butler area, I've been to that district many times. That's Trump country. There's just no question about it. That's an area where you would probably would have to go back and look precisely, but where you would probably see voting patterns that looked like Obama-Trump, then maybe Biden-Trump or Trump-Trump. But that's Trump country since the last couple of years. It's like the heart of Trump country, to be honest. And that's why they did the rally in Butler there. So that's a pretty important result for Democrats to right now be claiming a victory.
30:38Very, very close election, obviously, but really something to see that. This is Jacob Goldstein from What's Your Problem? Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting. That's software overload. Odoo is the all-in-one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, inventory, e-commerce, HR, fully integrated, easy to use, and built to grow with your business. Thousands have already made the switch. Why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's odoo.com. 16 years ago, I started working as a CNA in the hospital.
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33:13Right now it's sitting at 47.3 % for Ryan Elijah, who won that race, 34.1 % for Corey Mills, sitting Congressman Corey Mills, of course, and we can put this Mother Jones element up on the screen. This is just a little bit, if you've missed the Cory Mills scandal, it should be a movie. Frankly, it has been an absolute roller coaster for him over the last couple of years and the whole district. Mother Jones notes just in bullet points. His last 18 months look like this. February 2025, Washington, D.C. police nearly arrest Mills after a girlfriend calls 911 and accuses him of domestic assault. Assault.
33:49She recants the accusation after reportedly being pressured to do so by the Congressman. May 2025, Army veterans accused Mills of obtaining a bronze star through stolen valor. August 2025, an ex-girlfriend who Mills was cheating on with a partner who accused him of abuse seeks a restraining order against Mills after the congressman is accused of threatening to potentially share explicit videos recorded during the relationship. Then fast forward to October, just a couple months later, a Florida judge grants the restraining order. After finding a key part of the congressman testimony in the dating violence case had not been truthful, House Ethics Committee started investigating him then last November.
34:23In May, the Ethics Committee found, quote, it has authorized more than 20 subpoenas or revealed that it authorized more than 20 subpoenas and obtained thousands of documents as part of its investigation into serious and complex allegations against Mills. July of 2026, NBC News reports that Mills is under investigation by the DOJ, and that was into his finances. So DropSite did some great reporting, But also The Blaze did great reporting. The conservative website The Blaze really started doing great reporting on Mills in the last 18 months. I mean, I've even been earlier than that, showing his arms dealing, some of which appeared to be through the company while he was still or while he was a sitting member of Congress.
35:06Absolutely scandal plagued. But, Crystal, no real surprise he lost. It was just remarkable to watch him act as though nothing was wrong over the last 18 months, go about business as usual here and basically hold his head up high despite all of this mounting in just a really ugly way. This was one where it was just hard for me to keep in my head all of the many scandals that he was implicated in as you were reading. And I was like, isn't that the arms dealer guy, too? Yes, it was. our own Ryan Grimm confronted him on the Piers Morgan show about the arms dealing aspect of all of this. So in any case, they were able to get this kind of like Chad look looking local news anchor guy to run against him.
35:49He was able to get a few endorsements from Republicans, elected Republicans. I think Anna Paulina Luna, for example, backed him. Corey Mills, on the other hand, did have Trump's endorsement and backing Trump. This is another aspect of things. Trump actually took a number of losses last night and has taken a number of losses throughout this primary election cycle. I saw someone who had analyzed this this morning saying that 10 Trump-backed candidates had lost. That matches the higher watermark of his worst electoral season yet, that being in 2022. And if you put all of the other years that he's been in office together, this is more than the losses that he suffered during those years.
36:28So there is something interesting there about voters making their own judgments about some of these candidates. And they just took a look at Corey Mills and said, you know what, buddy, this is one, two, three, four or more scandals. Too much for us. We'll go with this other guy instead. Yeah. And again, though, I mean, this guy was, I'm reading from a Roger Sullenberger report at DropSite. In July, Mills and the weapons company he founded a decade ago, Payson, were notified that their foreign creditors were moving to liquidate tens of millions of dollars an unpaid foreign debt that Mills has never disclosed to Congress, despite his personal liability.
37:01So his entire tenure in the House was an interesting glimpse into run-of-the-mill D.C. corruption. Then obviously the personal allegations did not help with that. Corey Mills make that case that he deserved to retain his seat in Congress. But just there should be a movie coming out of the Cory Mills situation at the very least. He is, I don't know, he's a crystal. I was going to say he's a piece of garbage, but maybe I shouldn't. Too late. Too late. I think the I think the deeds and the allegations speak for themselves on that front. They sure do. Now, Byron Donald ended up winning the primary very easily.
37:4047.8 percent for Governor Jay Collins came in at 25.2 percent. And James Fishback's social media fueled campaign came in at 10.5 percent. Now, we can put this Florida politics tear sheet up on the screen. You may most remember this story from late last year. But one of Florida's largest school districts cut ties in 2022 with James Fishback, now Republican candidate for governor, following allegations that he had an inappropriate relationship with a student who was a minor at the time, According to interviews and records reviewed by NBC News earlier this year, the woman, Kana Fort, went to court asking for an order of protection against Fishback.
38:18She said he, quote, initiated a romantic relationship with her in spring 2022 and directed her to keep it a secret when she said he was 27 and he was 17 working for his group Incubate Debate. Fishback founded the organization in 2019, partnering with school districts in Florida to build debate programs for middle and high school students. And at that period in Fishback's life, I can personally say, because I interviewed him a number of times, he was kind of a what's the best way to put it? A kind of norms loving, civility embracing, Barry Weiss style, intellectual, dark web centrist. Um, it wasn't always clear to me what his ideology really was, uh, because he seemed like somebody who was leaning really hard into the, let's all just get back to having civil debates.
39:12He literally, his group was called Incubate Debate. Conversations. Yes, it was. He, he was running. And by the way, it seemed like a perfectly normal human being at the time. It has rattled me, unlike any other race or individual I can think of that I've met covering politics for a decade. This has seen the total personality transformation that Fishback has undergone so rapidly, has been personally rattling because I knew him for several years leading up to this. And he appears to be a totally different person. And for some obvious political reasons, right? Like he was running hard against Israel.
39:50He was running on what was it like a syntax crystal. So against like only fans, taxing only fans, that sort of thing on a lot of culture war issues that I would say put him somewhere in the proximity of Nick Fuentes. And he was testing this out on a statewide campaign. He was calling Byron Donald's Byron and saying he was like a Section 8 candidate. So it was a it was a gnarly campaign. And then, of course, these allegations came out. We would be remiss, though, to not mention B5. We can put this up on the screen. Another small sample from Zachary Donany, who writes, but Fishback won 89 percent of the vote in the Florida State University precinct.
40:31Will aggregate results across these campus precincts tomorrow for a broader look at his performance with younger voters? I didn't go precinct by precinct, but I did go county by county. And he did not appear to have come out ahead in any of the individual counties and actually didn't even appear to be very close in any of the individual counties. So we'll keep an eye on that. But he certainly was drawing crowds at campuses and those sorts of places. But as we've seen before, it doesn't always materialize into something real. It wasn't only at this campus, but apparently he won like all the major universities overwhelmingly, 89 percent.
41:08But then you go and look at the number of votes, 25. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Byron Donald's got one. So it shows you a little bit of a lack of enthusiasm, I guess, amongst the young Republicans. But I think, you know, look, Fishback very much positioned himself as like a groiper, online groiper candidate. And he was greeted with huge crowds and online acclaim and all this stuff, both in real life and in Internet life. Tucker endorsed him, for example. Yeah. Sorry, who endorsed him? Tucker. He went on Tucker's show and Tucker said, like, I hope you do well. Oh, great. Right. And Kyle Rittenhouse apparently also voted for him.
41:45So some interesting coalition building that he's doing there. Not enough to prevail in a primary. I think this isn't this around where the polls that he would ultimately end up somewhere like in very low single digits. So I think they pretty much captured what was going on here. We were debating before the election started what would happen. And we thought it would either be a total flop or, you know, something that was surprising. and we were kind of leaning in the direction of total flop because we just imagine all these young guys who it's not even that they really care about the electoral result.
42:15It's more of sort of like a performative, you know, this guy's an influencer and I like this influencer versus I actually think he's going to be governor of the state of Florida. So I'm sure there were many bros in Florida who kind of liked him, but didn't even bother to like register to vote, let alone go out and vote for this guy. or by the way they maybe don't want him to be an elected official but they find him like to be a compelling internet personality which is a difference that is i think it's i think it's worth pointing out that i mean you mentioned all the like just blatantly racist like race baiting crap he was doing i think it's fair to deem his views genuinely anti-semitic even though that word gets thrown around way too much in terms of the way he was critiquing israel but he's also just a total shapeshifter to your point.
43:03People are digging up old Jubilee clips of him. He was in the Jubilee versus Destiny sounding completely different than how he sounds today. So anyway, I think between him and we can talk about the Randy Fine versus Dan Belzerian race, got to be one of the most loathsome contests in human history between the two of those individuals. You could see, I guess, the limits of griperism as an actual political electoral force in the Republican Party at this point. However, you have to say with young Republicans, this has a lot of appeal. And that is something that the party is going to have to grapple with quite a bit over the years.
43:43Well, I do want to say, I mean, I don't think 10 % is nothing. And we were just batting around yesterday what it might look like. And I was vacillating between like either 2 % or 20%. And I was thinking it would be one or the other. 10 % is absolutely not nothing at all. And one of the things that's worth looking at here is Ryan McComb of VoteHub looked at the precincts and showed that Byron Donald's dominated Florida's oldest precincts. Now, the chart says vote share in the August Republican primary for governor group by average adult age of precinct residents. The precinct where they're grouping it with under 35, Fishback was up at about 31 percent.
44:21Now, that's still a minority. Collins, between Collins and Donald, Byron Donald, they were over 50 percent. So Fishback, 30 percent. When it was 35 to 45, 14 percent. 45 to 55, he's at 11 percent. And then 55 and up, 6.9 percent. We'd be curious to hear who those 70-year-old Florida voters casting their ballots for James Fishback were. But those under 35 precincts averaged by VoteHub, 30 percent. So again, hardly nothing, hardly insignificant. That's something for the GOP to certainly grapple with. Yeah, no doubt about it. Should we get into this Randy Fine situation here? We must. Because there's a lot going on there.
45:07So let's put the results up first. Randy Fine, who is the most repellent, bigoted person, I would say, in the United States Congress. And that is a very, very high bar at this point. Was victorious in his primary against another extreme bigot, Dan Bilzerian. Put B6A up on the screen here. We can see the results. Very easy victory, 57 % to 18.7%. Now, there was something a little bit weird that happened here, which is the first results that came out actually had Bilzerian within range. He was at like, I don't know, just under 40%. It was like a 40-60 kind of a race. And I was like, oh, interesting.
45:48What's going on here? It must have been a mistake because then those were taken down and there was a correction. Of course, Bilzerian is seizing on this to say this was definitely rigged. They took my votes away, et cetera. But in any case, appears to have been a big victory here for big Randy Fine. Earlier in the day, however, let's put B6 up on the screen. He was out door knocking and was waiting for someone to answer and, you know, standing around. Unmistakable. This is someone's ring camera footage. Body so T, you don't even need to see the face to know who this is. and here he is rifling through the mail of whoever's doorstep he's on here.
46:34Why? I couldn't tell you, but that is extremely creepy and it is also a federal crime. So I don't know what's going on there with that, Emily, but if I was that homeowner, I would definitely be looking into what I could do legally to pursue some sort of avenue here. I don't know. I'm just glad that he was getting some exercise, Crystal. That's very kind of you, Ab. It's good to see. It's good to see. Now, Hakeem Jeffries went after Dan Bilzerian and said, The hateful campaign being run by Dan Bilzerian in Florida is blatantly anti-Semitic and shocks the conscience people of goodwill, regardless of political affiliation.
47:10Must reject his vile attacks on the Jewish community. This cannot and will not stand. And then we should also. Which is true. I mean, Bilzerian is blatantly anti-Semitic. you know, flirts with, you know, rehabbing Hitler. It's really gross stuff, right? This is not a borderline, like he said, from the river to the sea. This is he, I don't think he would even deny the level of anti-Semitism that he brings to the table. That's kind of his whole thing. So yes, the end of the area is gross than a bigot. It was kind of bigot on bigot in this particular Republican primary. Let's put the next element up on the screen.
47:46Randy Fine, many will remember, posted once, if they force us to choose, the choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one. So that was the state of the race for Republicans. Called for nuking Gaza, let them all starve. Just so many Islamophobic, blatantly bigoted posts, you could not even keep track of them. And look, again, fine for Hakeem Jeffries to call out Dan Bilzerian, I think that's entirely warranted. Where is the condemnation of Randy Fine, who is not only an equally bigoted person, openly and proudly so, but also has been in a position of power to act on those bigoted inclinations.
48:33So yeah, just very disturbing race here between one individual who hates all Muslims, another individual who hates all Jews, and pretty gross to have that be a dividing line in a political contest, but may not be the last time that we see that particular dynamic. And before we move on, I do just want to note, there was a candidate in this race who came in at 13.5 % named Aaron Baker, who Ryan and I interviewed about a year ago. He was a contractor in the area who was disgusted by Randy Fiennes' bigotry, got into the race, a normal guy. And so listen, 13.5%, if Dan Bilzerian hadn't been in the race, And I'm sure, I mean, Bilzerian right now with 99 percent of the votes in is at 18.7 percent.
49:17So higher than Fishback, significantly higher than Fishback, almost double Fishback's vote total percentage. But that's unfortunate because if there had been a little bit more room for Aaron, I mean, he was it was really he was literally just a normal guy who was trying to get involved. People can go back and watch that interview. Still 13 and a half percent, you know, for having basically no money. I say good for you, Aaron Baker. And not being an influencer with like a national brand and name. For Gen Z. Yeah, I remember when you guys did that interview. I was going to say for Gen Z, they may not know the Bilzerian lore, but Crystal, when we were younger, in the heyday of Instagram, when Instagram was new in the world, the word influencer was still a vague term that boomers were unaware of.
50:04Dan Bilzerian was not political at all. He was just a dude who was like flying around on private planes with guns and naked women and was like one of the most popular people on Instagram, period. And like kind of very famous. Yeah, indeed. So there you go. I guess all of that gets you 18 percent versus Randy Fine. So one of the two very odious individuals very likely headed back to Congress because it was it's a very Republican district. So even in a year like this, I don't think that there's much chance that Randy Fine is going down. This is Jacob Goldstein from What's Your Problem? Running a business is hard enough.
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52:56This happened yesterday. The UAE Defense Ministry, according to Dropsite, said its air defenses detected two ballistic missiles launched from Iran, the first falling outside its territorial waters and the second within them, with a phone alert also warning residents in the UAE of a, quote, potential missile threat. The UAE Foreign Ministry then announced it was halting all trade, commercial exchanges, and financial transactions with Iran until further notice, citing regional escalations. Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson said completely rejected the claim that it launched those missiles targeting Emirati territory, calling it contrary to good neighborly relations and damaging to efforts to build trust, regional trust.
53:34He urged regional states to avoid, quote, baseless accusations against Iran, citing what he called the history of U.S. and Israeli, quote, false flag operations in the region. Now, if we then move on to another major update from yesterday in the New York Times, just to put these two things together, two ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz are attacked. Two ships in the Strait of Hormuz were attacked in recent days, killing at least one sailor, maritime officials said on Tuesday, as a declining number of vessels brave the dangerous passageway. Now, you can see in the chart from the New York Times that's up on the screen right now, if you're listening to this, the five-day moving average peaked in late June and has just continued to go back down ever since.
54:16So it's at a pretty low level, somewhere between, it looks like it's around 10 ships. The pre-war average, of course, was 130 ships. Meanwhile, Crystal, let's also note a Big Washington Post report from yesterday, Pentagon weighing smaller U.S. military presence in Gulf once the Iran war ends. This is a piece that reports the Pentagon is evaluating its military footprint in the Middle East in an early sign of the Iran war's potential to transform the U.S. presence in the region. According to eight people, including officials and others familiar with the matter, one of the key areas the Defense Department is assessing is whether to pull back troops from the Persian Gulf, where America's large overseas military bases have been battered by months of Iranian strikes, two people familiar with the ongoing analysis said.
55:01So that as ships through the Strait of Hormuz being attacked. And UAE says that a missile, two missiles were launched towards the territory. No sign, no sign of de-escalation in site crystal. But of course, that is apparently the same story every single day now. This Washington Post story is very interesting with them acknowledging that they're considering totally changing the basing strategy through the region. Of course, it has a little bit of a vibe of like, you can't fire me, I quit, where we were, we may not have a lot of options for going back into the region, not only because of Iran's demonstrated ability to destroy our bases throughout the region, but also those Gulf Arab allies that were previously hosting us are not going to be really eager to welcome us back in with open arms, given that rather than demonstrating that our positions there served as a protective shield, they made those countries targets.
55:55So I'm not sure that they were going to be really open to allowing us. to come back and rebuild our bases and reestablish the positions that we had previously. But more to the point, it really doesn't make sense to do so at this point anyway, given how badly that basing strategy has been revealed to be a failure and create a lot, a lot of vulnerabilities. Even before the war started, before we started the war, we pulled a lot of service members from those bases. You know, we routinely have something like 40 ,000 troops stationed throughout the region. We pulled a lot of those from those bases, had them housed in civilian hotels, which is not really a moral, ethical thing to do.
56:34But in any case, because we recognized that there was a lot of vulnerability there, but I don't think anyone knew just how much and how much damage the Iranians would be able to exact against us in the region. So in any case, I found it very interesting, this leak to The Washington Post that, oh, we're thinking about maybe changing our strategy here. Not we've been humiliated and forced out of this region at the point of a gun, basically the barrel of a gun, and are going to have to retreat to whatever we can get away with here from from here on out. Yeah. And worth noting this NBC News report as well, which NBC News says they got their hands on government documents from Europe.
57:16And then they were verified by a Western official that show Russia is shipping explosives to Iran to bolster its missile and drone arsenal in the U.S. war. That wouldn't entirely surprise me if it's true, Crystal. The sourcing, though, is worth, I guess, pausing on. They have European government documents that a Western official verified. That does seem like it could be a piece of well-placed propaganda to get people more interested in the conflict or to gin up more of an appetite for the war. It's not going to work. Yeah, it could also be this could be a sort of Ukrainian planted intel as well of like, see, the Russians, they're not only against us, they're against you directly in Iran.
58:01fun. They're helping your adversary here. So there's all kinds of people who would have all sorts of incentives to plant this intel and push it out to NBC News. So we have to take all of these things with a grain of salt. To your point, though, it also wouldn't shock me if it's true. Clearly, you know, the Russians do have an interest in bogging us down in Iran and getting us to expend our munitions and our interceptors and have our bases destroyed and be completely preoccupied there so that we can't help much on the Ukrainian or broader European front. So they certainly would have motivations for, you know, having this level of partnership with Iran as well.
58:38And there have been some indications as well that they've helped with some of the Iranian targeting, although I think Iran is also fairly capable in terms of their own ability to identify targets for attack. Yeah. Now, you wanted to also discuss this Financial Times piece, soaring diesel prices rip across U.S. economy. Not as price to anybody hearing it because you're living it. A surge in diesel prices, the FT reports, is dealing a powerful blow to industrial America, pushing up costs for businesses and consumers across the U.S. ahead of midterm election. The pump elections, the pump price of diesel hit a$5.47 a gallon on Tuesday, approaching its all-time high of$5.82 a gallon.
59:19Look at how close that is to the all-time high. 547 heading to the all-time high potentially of 582 at some point as wars in the Middle East and Europe, hobble production and throttle global supplies. Prices have jumped 8 % in the past month, while the gap between the cost of diesel and crude oil, known as the crack spread, has hit a record high in recent days in a sign of the deepening supply shock. The price surge has driven out costs for truckers and farmers that are set to ricochet through the broader economy, reigniting inflation and squeezing already thinly stretched American consumers. Yes, people know, obviously, that when diesel prices go up, that ripples throughout the rest of the economy.
59:56That is something that has all kinds of downstream consequences. And so, again, just the all-time high is$5.82 a gallon. Right now, yesterday,$5.47 a gallon, Crystal. Wow. Yeah, and so what we're feeling at the pump in terms of regular gasoline, there is a much higher price being paid for diesel. And yes, we have all learned through the COVID inflationary period just how much of an impact that has. So even if somehow a miracle occurred and the Strait of Hormuz opened and the war ended and there was peace reigned throughout the world, we are going to be dealing with the supply shocks and the bottlenecks from what has already been done for months, if not years to come.
1:00:44Food prices are going to go up. I was reading farmers who are facing foreclosure now because think of the double whammy they're facing, double whammy at least because they're also dealing with a lot of climate problems. But you have not only the increased cost of diesel, which all the farm equipment, of course, runs on, but increased costs of fertilizer as well thanks to this war. Then I've already come up with a triple whammy here. Then you've got the tariffs, which really dramatically impacted them as well. And you can see the political nexus of this very clearly. I think it's entirely likely Democrats win.
1:01:18Certainly the governorship in Iowa Senate is definitely on the table as well, because this is a rural farming state. Farmers have been extremely hard hit and they've had it. So whereas in Trump 1.0, you know, they were willing to put up with the tariffs. They understood that there was a rationale behind it that maybe in the long run would ignore to everyone's benefit. And I think there was a kind of a willingness to sacrifice there some on behalf of a president that they truly believed in. Here we are many years down the road, and it's just one thing after another thing after another thing. And they're at their wits end in terms of the family farmer to the extent that that exists, even exists anymore after big ag has taken over so much market share in the farming world.
1:02:01So in any case, this is really hitting farmers hard, but of course it's going to show up in all of our budgets as food costs continue to climb. And cost of basically everything is impacted by diesel because this is the primary mode of shipping across the country. So definitely one to pay attention to. And we talked yesterday, Sagar and I, about the diesel crack spread, which is just an indication of two things. Number one, that the market is completely screwed up and refining capacity is pushed to the absolute brink. One more, let's say there's a bad storm that takes down a refiner. Let's say Ukraine continues to hit Russian refinery capacity.
1:02:39Let's say one of the states that are war-torn in Africa has a huge refining issue. We've seen some of that as well. Any additional strain really is just going to push that system to its breaking point. So the pressure continues to mount here with obviously no end in sight. And a lot of the political horizon having basically run out now for Trump at this point. Midterm elections are just around the corner. Yeah, and obviously the memorandum of understanding expired with nothing else coming from it. Now, Trump did push back the Canadian tariffs. He said that they're continuing to negotiate. That was supposed to be what yesterday.
1:03:16But he posted late on True Social that he was postponing the tariffs because they were in good negotiations. Folks may remember about a month ago when he threatened those massive retaliatory tariffs on Canada. Looks like that's not going to happen, at least as he threatened at first. But just a reminder, the numbers that came out last Wednesday, again, this was a war that was pitched as a two - to four-week bombing run, basically, as one U.S. senator told me back in the winter or the early spring. U.S. inflation declined slightly last month as the cost of gas and groceries slipped, though prices are still rising more quickly than before the Iran war, posing challenges for the White House as the midterm elections near.
1:03:54Consumer prices increased 3.4 percent in July from a year ago, down slightly from 3.5 percent in June. So what was, again, kind of heralded as a decline in the growth of inflation is still 3.4 percent, which puts Trump in territory. I believe it was 3.2 percent when he took over from Biden. It may have been a bit lower from that. I would have to go check back. But it was 2.4 percent before the Iran war. So it puts him in territory that's well beyond where he was literally right before this started. And as a reminder, we were just talking earlier in the block about two ships being hit in the Strait of Hormuz in recent days as well, with about 10, a daily average of 10 ships passing through the strait.
1:04:39That was 130 before the war. So, Crystal, just an abject disaster, however you look at it. Yeah. And let's take a look at how the Iranians are responding, at least rhetorically, to the current state of affairs. This is some statements from Ghalibov that DropSight wrote up. We can put up on the screen. He says that Hormuz will not reopen until the U.S. honors the Islamabad memorandum. That's a memorandum of understanding. To be honest with you, I feel like that is a bit of a walk back from some of the even more maximalist demands that have been made from the Iranians in recent weeks. But in any case, he says until the U.S.
1:05:17implements its commitments under the memorandum, including lifting the blockade, releasing frozen assets, lifting oil sanctions, ending threats of military operations on all fronts and the other agreed conditions, the strait will not reopen. He portrayed the memorandum as evidence of a U.S.-Israeli defeat, saying Iran's military pressure and diplomacy reinforced one another because Washington breached the agreement. He said the military field must against the port diplomacy with action. The pause in fighting, he added, let Iran rebuild defensive capabilities and prepare to impose a heavier defeat in response to further U.S.
1:05:53aggression. He also talks here about living costs, how Washington is trying to weaponize inflation and economic hardship. He urges the government to expand and better fund electronic credits for essential food, protect families' purchasing power, and avoid policies that could intensify public anger. He also says that Iran needs to reduce consumption but rejected higher prices on gas inside Iran and also warned rival factions against exploiting wartime pressures to begin campaigning or mobilizing supporters against one another. In any case, the key part here to me is where he says the military field must support diplomacy with action in that they are preparing to impose a heavier defeat in response to further U.S.
1:06:37aggression. There was a big piece that we discussed yesterday in the show, I think, from the Wall Street Journal about the, quote unquote, hidden plan or secret plan for Iran to go on the offensive in the war. I don't think it's secret if you're listening to their words whatsoever. It's a question whether it's bluster or not. But there is a lot of logic to the idea that they see that we're in very precarious position politically, economically, and with our munitions stockpile, with the morale of our troops stationed throughout the region and certainly our sailors on board those, you know, hell cruises, as Tucker put it, on those carriers.
1:07:13So they know that we're in a really particularly vulnerable and weak place right now. They also know that the game we want to play is to slowly squeeze the life out of them. Why would they just sit there and take it when they do have other options? So that's why I would not be surprised if these threatening words from them are not just bluster at this point, but that it could be action. And that's why also I took great interest in the allegations from the UAE yesterday that missiles had been fired in their direction. Yeah. And obviously, Iran knows that Trump right now is trying to get affordability to be a slightly better or neutralize that issue for Republicans because he has elections coming up.
1:07:53So that is certainly weighing in in their strategy as well. No question about it.
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