8/3/26: MAGA Abuser Doubles Down, Spain Migrant Crisis, New York Sues Kalshi

3 Aug 2026 · 46 min · 12 chapters

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In short

Episode topic: Three-part political/news segment: (1) Max Miller abuse allegations and his decision to “double down” rather than withdraw; (2) Spain’s Ceuta migrant surge and claims it may be tied to MAGA/Israel/Morocco hybrid operations; (3) New York suing Kalshi over whether prediction markets are illegal gambling, with arguments about federal preemption and a possible Supreme Court fight.

Guest backgrounds

Juan David Rojas is a columnist at UnHerd and wrote about Ceuta/Morocco/Trump links. Other on-air voices include hosts Sagar and Crystal (Breaking Points) and the episode’s co-hosts/hosts from other iHeart shows, plus discussion of politicians (e.g., Bernie Moreno).

Key claims

Miller’s speech uses Ring footage/texts to deny assault; host argues other abuse allegations exist beyond his ex-wife and cites Mother Jones reporting and an audio where Miller discusses hot water. For Ceuta, Rojas argues Morocco may be emboldened by U.S./Israel ties and that MAGA interest in Ceuta/Melilla is suspicious. For Kalshi, hosts claim New York argues it’s unlicensed gambling; Kalshi says it’s federally authorized “event contracts” under Dodd-Frank.

Notable examples

Miller allegedly released surreptitious recordings; scalding-water claim vs “sunburn” claim; Moreno says Miller needs psychological help. Ceuta: “Facebook posts” about an open border; reports of Moroccan intelligence agents among migrants. Kalshi: parlay/same-game combo losses; World Cup example where <3% of 30,000 combos resolved “yes.”

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MAGA Abuser Doubles Down

1:56 to 2:11

Discussion on the allegations against Representative Max Miller and his response.

“Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show.”

MAGA Abuser Doubles Down

2:15 to 9:48

Discussion on the allegations against Representative Max Miller and his response.

“and all put together for you every morning in your inbox.”

Reactions and Political Implications

9:48 to 14:00

Analysis of the political fallout and reactions from other politicians regarding the situation.

“He's actually suing both Moreno and Grisham for defamation.”

Political Allegations Against Max Miller

14:00 to 18:10

Discussion on the controversies surrounding Republican Max Miller and his political implications.

“Republican in Washington who has said that he should not be in Congress.”

Republican Strategies in Ohio Elections

18:10 to 19:31

Analysis of Republican strategies and the implications for upcoming elections in Ohio.

“He's also one of the most like pro-genocide freaks in the entire Congress, which is really saying something.”

Introduction to Spain's Migrant Crisis

19:31 to 22:38

Overview of the migrant surge in Ceuta, Spain, and its geopolitical significance.

“All right, we got Juan David Rojas standing by to talk about Spain.”

Geopolitical Implications of Ceuta's Migrant Surge

23:17 to 28:00

Discussion on the geopolitical factors and implications of the migrant crisis in Ceuta.

“You can see here people who are struggling, collapsing on the beach there.”

Spain's Migrant Crisis and Its Political Ramifications

28:00 to 36:20

Explore the complex dynamics of Spain's migrant situation and its connection to international politics.

“And then the question kind of is, like, why now?”

New York's Lawsuit Against Kalshi

40:24 to 42:00

Insight into New York's legal actions against the prediction market Kalshi and its implications.

“A major lawsuit here in the United States between the state of New York and Calci.”

The Rise of Calci and Its Implications

42:00 to 45:52

Explore the impact of Calci's gambling model on sports betting regulations and consumer behavior.

“Thus, states are not allowed to regulate it.”
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The Societal Shift from Entertainment to Betting

45:52 to 53:16

Discuss how gambling has overtaken traditional entertainment and its effects on society.

“And so while, you know, with the AI example on the data center front, there's been some local pushback that's been successful.”

Understanding the Financial Impact of Gambling

53:16 to 54:04

Analyze the economic consequences of gambling on individuals and communities.

“So instead of actually going to a sporting event where you're with people, which is a social behavior, you're staying home and placing a bet on your phone instead of going to a concert.”
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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. The dream of the 90s is alive in podcast form. We're launching Podlandia AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast where we revisit every episode of Portlandia together. Breaking down sketches, going deep on our iconic characters, and pulling back the curtain on how it all got made. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Kreisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more.

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1:09She looks good. Her combos are swift. And the stories everyone's talking about across women's sports. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to Everyone Watches Women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nick Turturro. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, The Longest Yard, or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. And on my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro, I deliver pizza to a new guest. I've shared a slice with everyone, from Seth Rollins. What are you doing with my belt? To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am.

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2:29Last week, we covered the horrific abuse allegations against Representative Max Miller, who is still running for re-election, and he announced over the weekend, I'm going to have a big speech on Sunday morning, and so people were watching, wondering whether he was going to drop out given the severity of these abuse allegations, both against his ex-wife and against his own child. But no, in fact, he doubled down and denied that any of this was true. Let's go ahead and take a listen to a little bit of what he had to say. My former wife has claimed that during a custody exchange at my home that day, I assaulted her.

3:07Here's what actually happened. And I have the Ring doorbell footage that backs it up. She came to my home in a good mood. and we have text messages to prove it, which you'll have, to pick up our daughter early for a friend's birthday party. She was inside my house for several minutes when she left. The video shows her walking out, carrying our daughter calm, in the same good mood, showing no distress whatsoever. And as they left, you can hear me say, goodbye, I love you, and I love you, Ruthie. literally telling my ex-wife that I still cared for her. Does that sound like somebody who would just walk out and who have been violently thrown a wall and been abused?

3:53She didn't call the police after that. She didn't go to the hospital, ladies and gentlemen. Do you want to know what she did? She went straight to a child's birthday party. The very next day, we had a friendly phone call about our daughter's upcoming hospital procedure, and I drove in from Washington to be there for it. Six days later, she offered to cook empanadas for me for dinner just two days later after this alleged incident. The day after that, she invited me and my girlfriend, which you'll have in text messages, to join her and our daughter at a playground. And that day, I just went with my former wife to the playground to spend time with our daughter.

4:36A week later, on February 15th, she wrote to me in her own words, which you will see, I think it's great you and I are in a friendlier place. She then offered me more extra overnights with our daughter, which I can prove to every single one of you is recently. Every one of these messages is time stamped on our court sanctioned co-parenting app and is all in the packet. Only weeks later did the story of February 1st assault appear. So ask yourself, if I had assaulted her, would she had offered to cook me dinner six days later? Would she have invited me to spend an afternoon at the playground with her and our daughter?

5:20Would she have written that we were in a friendlier place? No, she wouldn't have, ladies and gentlemen. So there's a lot to say about that. First of all, the fact that she, you know, had made some efforts at sort of maintaining the peace and keeping up relations with this man who continues to have shared custody of her daughter, I don't think disproves any of the abuse allegations. He makes a lot of claims in this 20 minute speech he gave here. I watched the whole thing. One of the claims that he makes is definitively untrue. He says all of the allegations of abuse came from his ex-wife, who, by the way, her father is Republican Senator Bernie Moreno.

6:02Put a pin in that. We'll get to that in just a moment. That is not true. Stephanie Grisham, who was part of the first Trump White House, was in a relationship with him and alleged that he threw her up against the wall and slapped her when she accused him of cheating on her. There were allegations against him in high school that he allegedly threw a girl down the stairs in high school. There were allegations that came out in the custody hearings that he was expelled from college for violence against a woman. And Mother Jones has done the most comprehensive reporting on this and, you know, spoke to some of the people who were involved here who stand by their stories, alleging abuse against him.

6:42So it is simply not true that the only abuse allegations come from his ex-wife. In addition, he released a bunch of audio and contemporaneous records to try to clear his name. And so we learn one thing, which is that he was apparently surreptitiously recording his ex-wife and other loved ones, which is, you know, it was legal, I guess, in the state of Ohio, but very shady behavior. In any case, one of those audios seems to really undermine some of the stories that he's been telling as well. He told the New York Post one of the abuse allegations was that he had thrown scalding hot water at his ex-wife and that she had, you know, she had marks from this water.

7:28He had told the New York Post this never happened and that the marks that we have pictures of on her skin were from a sunburn. In one of the audios that he himself released, he seems to acknowledge that this scalding hot water incident occurred. However, he purports that they were just horsing around in the kitchen and he sprayed her with the tap water and it couldn't have been that hot to injure or burn her. Let's go and take a listen to this surreptitious recording that he provided of this interaction between him and his ex-wife. It never was done to hurt you. And you know that you were weaponizing this because of my previous allegations.

8:03And you knew it was because you went into my, you went into my room when I was crying. So Emily. You started crying. I didn't need to hurt you. I didn't need to hurt you. Why are you scared of me? Yeah, I didn't mean to hurt you. It wasn't done with intent. You just said it yourself. You literally just said it yourself. It wasn't done to hurt you. And I told you before that not to come over to me and start screwing around with me. I wasn't trying to describe it. I was trying to give you a heart. You are taking a playful incident and making something nefarious. It's not playful, Matt. It's not playful.

8:34We need hot water. Emily, going out of the faucet, it does not get to a temperature of boiling water. It does not. Put it on when you get home access. I did it and I tested it and I had our attorneys tested because I figured that this is what you're going to come at me with. And it's literally what? No, no. But literally, it's like standing under a hot shower and we already have someone to go ahead and combat this. If this is what you're going to do. And so, Sagar, let me get you to weigh in. But just so people know that the totality of the allegation she's making here, there's not only the scalding water allegation.

9:07She also alleges that he held a gun to her head. their daughter's collarbone was broken and she suspects that he may have been to blame she says that the daughter has told her that daddy's house is quote scary and there's a bunch of other stuff from their court hearings that is just like you know horrifying treatment of the woman who just gave birth to your child abandoned her off again allegations abandoned her after like two days after she gave birth refused to be present for the childbirth made sorts of all sorts of like or derogatory comments about her body, given that she had just given birth to a child.

9:44So that's the sort of stuff that we're dealing with here. Right. And like you said, Miller denies it all. He's actually suing both Moreno and Grisham for defamation. He released that speech to defend himself. I mean, objectively, looking at all of it, like you said, with a lot of the incidents from Mother Jones's report, report, again, which Miller had been contacted for comment and which he denied many of these. However, some of it at least comes from court records. What you could see in that audio, at least the one that he released, is he is admitting that there was some hot water or all of that involved.

10:20Part of this has just seemed so silly. It's like, why are you speaking to the mother of your child like that? What are you doing? That's where I just fall down, especially when you have a two-year-old daughter and then this bitter custody dispute in which there's clearly like insane antagonism from his side. And, you know, just the general, like, would she have offered to cook me dinner? I'm like, dude, yeah, you share a child. So they probably want to keep things like somewhat amicable, even if there had been some situation between the two of you, as you well pointed out. Trump was asked about this, by the way, because he is actually running for reelection.

10:57Here's what he had to say.

11:04I just learned about it. Well, I'm going to look at it. I mean, so far it's accusations. I'll be looking at it. He said, so far it's just accusations. I'll be looking at it. That's part of the problem for the Republicans. This is too late, I think, or at least from what they've said, to replace him. We did have Bernie Moreno. We could put C4 up here on the screen. The sitting senator from Ohio, whose daughter Emily is the person who obviously is in the center of all this. He says,

12:01Max Miller needs serious psychological help. He's a danger to my daughter. I hold my breath every minute he has custody of my granddaughter. If there are any basic standards of character required to hold elected office, Miller fails them. He should not serve in the House of Representatives. I believe Miller needs to seek professional help to end the clear pattern of abuse he has left in his wake. I believe he should not be free to continue endangering others until he does. I ran for office because I wanted to make a difference, etc. He says the sacrifice has been very hard on my wife, Bridget, whose big heart and steady support have never wavered.

12:31I owe it to her, Emily, and to my granddaughter to speak the truth now. That was the first time that he has actually said anything about the situation, which is kind of mind-boggling, considering it's his own daughter and granddaughter at the center of it. I did ask around, and apparently one of the reasons why had to do with some of the custody disputes and some of the re-election stuff that's going on behind the scenes, but nonetheless, chalking. Miller has responded, by the way, C5, let's put it up here on the screen. He said, Bernie Marino, if my daughter said the same thing to me, I personally wouldn't wait two years before holding him accountable.

13:07You know this isn't true, and the only reason you are speaking out now is to hide from your own media circus. This is all political. He appears to be insinuating that he has some dirt on Bernie Marino and has said that now for many years. I mean, he does have kind of a point saying I wouldn't have waited two years to be able to come out. But nonetheless, this is a bitter and very dramatic situation in the Ohio congressional delegation, which does highlight, too, you know, you just had this whole Plattner situation going on with the Democrat. He obviously dropped out immediately. But Republicans still, I mean, mostly are either silent or rallying around him because they don't want to lose the seat.

13:47I have not looked at the odds or the polling in his district, but I can't imagine that this is going to be helpful. Uh, yeah, no. So first of all, on the political front, Moreno was the only one, literally the only elected Republican in Washington who has said that he should not be in Congress. That's it. And yeah, there's a direct contrast with the Plattner situation, you know, when there was a credible sexual assault threat. And some of these very same people who are now running around on the Republican side and saying Miller's a great guy and I'm helping him get reelected are the same people who are, you know, castigating Democrats for their lack of morals.

14:27So you can see, I mean, it's, you know, it's trite at this point to make the hypocrisy point, but it's just so overwhelmingly in your face with this one that it's hard to avoid. So there's that. He, so with regard to Moreno, this had come out during his campaign and I had forgotten about this, but his work account, Moreno's had been used to set up a profile on a gay dating website where said profile indicated was looking for one on one situations with, quote unquote, young men. A staffer came out and said that he had set this up as some sort of a gag. So there's a lot of speculation that maybe that is what Miller is threatening Moreno with to reveal.

15:10He texted him something like, you know, I'll reveal things that show, you know, show people I know you even better than your wife does, something of that nature. And so anyway, that's a speculation in terms of what Max Miller has on Bernie Moreno. Of course, none of us really know what the substance or if there is any substance of allegations against Moreno. Now, one other piece here, just in terms of the credibility of the allegations against Miller, there's also a note that the Daily Mail was able to get their hands on that allegedly happened that Miller wrote to his ex-wife right after the alleged water scalding incident occurred, where he said to her, I don't know what to do.

15:54I do know you love me, protect me, and care for me. I failed to do that for you. It's eating me alive. I love you even if you think I don't. I love you so much. I'm so sorry. I'm just a fuck up and worthless. So Moreno contends that this was a sort of like apology for the water scalding incident, which would indicate that he knows that he heard her. He claims that was not the context of this note. It was around some sort of like political dispute. So in any case, I just wanted to put that out there in terms of backing up her story and the credibility therein. But the withdrawal deadline in Ohio is August 5th, so that's two days from now.

16:37Doesn't look like he's dropping out. It's a district in Ohio that Trump won by 11 points. However, when Bernie Moreno ran for the Senate, he only won this district by one point. So I think it very much is in play for Democrats. The Democratic nominee seems to be pretty strong. Brian Poindexter, he's a union iron worker, positioning himself as a populist. So, you know, I think this is, the weird thing to me with Republicans just standing by him in lockstep is I don't actually think that this is a smart tactical decision for them. Because if they just got some run-of-the-mill generic Republican in there, the seat would likely, they'd be able to hang on to it.

17:19But with him, because he is, you know, uniquely has these horrifying allegations against him and many people won't want to vote for him because of that reason, he puts the seat in jeopardy. And then the last thing I'll say about him is he genuinely would not exist as a political figure without Trump. He, you know, had issues in college and he becomes like an intern on Marco Rubio's campaign. And then when Rubio drops out, then he goes over to Trump. Trump likes him. He ends up in charge of part of Trump's advance team, you know, and an aide in the first Trump White House. And then wants the seat.

17:54I think the guy who held the seat previously had voted for a Trump impeachment after January 6th. So Trump was like, OK, we got the perfect guy, endorses him. There you go. He's a congressman. So, you know, this is a this is a Trump loyalist through and through, truly, you know, creature of the MAGA movement. He's also one of the most like pro-genocide freaks in the entire Congress, which is really saying something. So anyway, that's a little bit of the political backstory. I knew more about the Gaza angle and how dedicated he is to Israel. So that's what he originally came on my radar for, I guess, if you will.

18:27Yeah, I mean, like you said, one thing I have heard often in Washington is that many Republicans think it was such a huge mistake to kick out George Santos because it really hurt their margins in the House of Representatives. And currently where the Republican margin is, it's so razor thin. They just think that they can't accept even kicking out somebody who's so obviously deserving. I know I think Jim Jordan has been asked about this before. So you could see that logic very clearly on display for all of them. But obviously— But why not just have him not run for re-election? Well, they can't force him to, right?

19:01I mean, at the end of the—I mean, I guess they can. They could say, look, you're not going to get a dollar from the committee or any of that. But he might just say, screw you. He might be—you know, we have no idea. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, also it comes down to Trump. Trump could just come in and say, you're done. I'm going to endorse somebody else. We all know that the Republican base would vote for it. But maybe it's— Well, that's what I really think is going on. I think they're all taking the lead from Trump. They don't want to get crosswise with him. They know this is his guy. And so since he is standing by him, they're all going to stand by him.

19:30That's how they make their decisions. Yeah, that's right. All right, we got Juan David Rojas standing by to talk about Spain. Let's get to it. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating?

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21:46I'm Nick Turturro. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, The Longest Yard, or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. But I'm also from Queens, which means I know pizza. And on my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick DeToro, I deliver pizza from Prince Street Pizza to a new guest. Are you delivering pizza now? Then we sit down for a real conversation. I've shared a slice with everyone, from Seth Rollins. What are you doing with my belt? To Alex Rodriguez. Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here. To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am.

22:20And now we even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Turturro. It's called happiness. Delivering happiness. Mariano Rivera. Oh my God. And many, many more. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro, and listen now. All right, guys, there was a wild situation unfolding in Ceuta, Spain, a place that I did not know exists, but I'm now learning a lot about. So this is across from the Spanish mainland right next to Morocco and on the Strait of Gibraltar. What you see here is tens of thousands of migrants who suddenly surged to and over the border into this Spanish territory.

23:03There were images that immediately seemed to suggest this was some sort of an organized movement, not only because the flood of people who suddenly emerged, but also because you saw them arriving on trucks and being unloaded near the border. We now have a lot of testimony from some of the migrants, most of whom have now returned to Morocco, but some of the migrants who were part of this wave saying that they were encouraged by the Moroccan authorities there at the border, saying also that there were a lot of Facebook posts saying, hey, the Spanish border is open. You can see here people who are struggling, collapsing on the beach there.

23:42You know, there were migrants who were killed and injured as part of whatever this was. And so now to talk about what exactly happened here and why there are suspicions that the U.S. and Israel could have been involved in what would be a sort of hybrid war operation is Juan David Rojas. He is a columnist at UnHerd. He has a new article up. We can put D2 up on the screen. And his headline here is, did MAGA create the Ceuta crisis? Morocco is cozying up to Trump. Welcome, Juan. Great to see you. Good to see you, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Yeah. Yeah, of course. So just start by giving a little, first of all, correct anything that I said that might have been wrong.

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24:23Give a little bit of backstory here about what this place is, what happened, and why it has so much significance. Yeah, so around 60 ,000 migrants over, I think it was on Friday or Thursday, cross over into the Spanish territory called Ceuta. And so Spain actually has these two enclaves across the Strait of Gibraltar on the coast with Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla. They're just these like two cities completely surrounded by Morocco. And they've actually controlled them since the 1400s. But, you know, it's been a point of contention between Spain and Morocco. Morocco says that it should be theirs on account of, you know, their geographical location.

25:05But, you know, this area of the world is really interesting if you're into decolonial stuff, because you have Gibraltar itself, which is, you know, controlled by the UK, which Spain says should be theirs. And then on the other hand, Morocco claims all of what's called Western Sahara further south, which used to be a Spanish territory as well. Spain handed control over to it in Morocco and there's been an insurgency there because the Sahrawis, the native people of Western Sahara don't want to be part of Morocco and this is horrific it's kind of like a Palestine situation they built a wall to keep out the separatists and have an exchange fire with these insurgents for a long time and actually for decades Morocco has used these two cities Ceuta and Melilla in order to get at Spain and also at Algeria for like supporting these Sahrawi separatists.

25:59And so a lot of analysts have thought that because Spain had been like forging closer relations with Algeria, which allegedly provides support to the Sahrawis, Morocco just decided, hey, you know what, we're just going to screw Spain like this. Now, going a step further, you know, Morocco doesn't really take orders from anyone. They're the king there. They have their own internal politics and whatnot. But I definitely think they feel emboldened because in recent years, Morocco has really forged close ties with Israel and the U.S. In 2020, under Trump's first administration, the Abraham Accords, Morocco was a signatory.

26:42And in exchange, the Trump administration recognized Morocco's control over Western Sahara. Then in more recent years, like the Trump administration hosted these like covert talks with like Morocco and other countries over like the Western Sahara issue. But the interesting thing is like if you look at MAGA, all of a sudden they care a lot about these two cities, Ceuta and Melilla. Why is that? and like in March Dias Representative Diaz-Balart from here in South Florida he said that Ceuta and Melilla should belong to Morocco and that Spain is a colonial power which is crazy he's basically like intoning Fidel Castro I argued in the piece so it's nuts Thomas Massey pointed out that last week the house passed a bill that would have given like $40 million to Morocco.

27:38And in the bill, it recognizes Ceuta and Melilla as part of Morocco. So this is crazy stuff. Days before this also, Morocco named its highway that goes through Western Sahara after Donald Trump. And Trump has a true social post where he says, thank you to the great king of Morocco. I hope to one day ride through this amazing, beautiful highway. And then the question kind of is, like, why now? And so I know there's been a lot of speculation, especially around Morocco and Israel's relationship. For example, we have D4. We can put here on the screen an extraordinary statement from Yair Netanyahu.

28:20He is the son of Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel. He said in 2019, May 26, let's make a deal. We won't fund NGOs in your country calling you to give away Sueta and Maia, and you will stop funding NGOs in our country that calls us to give away Judea and Samaria. This is part of, obviously, the West Bank and Gaza in their parlance. This included, actually, a thread in a map that Yair posted, including direct threats by Morocco to take over Sueta and Maia. So the Israel connection here, somewhat interesting. This was one of many posts, including by Itamar Ben-Gavir, the Israeli foreign ministry and others attacking Spain after this migration wave.

29:10What is the connection there? Is it because of Spain's opposition to Israel and its conduct in Gaza? Exactly, exactly. Yeah, that was the last piece. So Spain under Prime Minister, Socialist Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has been really critical both of the war in Gaza and now the Iran war. And even went as far as to not allow the U.S. to dock its planes and that we have two bases inside of Spain. This is a huge deal, the Rota and I forget the name of the other one. And so MAGA has branded Spain like public enemy number one. And there's also the factor that they refuse to keep up with their defense spending commitments under NATO.

29:48but um yeah the israelis also yeah they this is they've been saying these kinds of things for years just to get back at spain because uh sanchez has been in power since 2018 uh i believe so yeah i i definitely don't think it's a coincidence um oh yeah i mean i saw on like newsmax they were saying oh the spanish look at this it's because they're opposed to like western civilization well i mean it looks like you guys are kind of opposed to what's this western civilization right now Right. Let's go ahead and play to your point about the right wing interest here in Spain. Trump recently said there is sort of issued a threat, said that the Spanish are not, quote, behaving nicely, but they will learn.

30:31Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Ah, the Spanish, the members of NATO, but not very good members of NATO. They say, no, we don't want to help other people. What are we doing? huh? They are not behaving nicely, but they will learn soon after they relinquish their grip on Cuba and Guam, the Philippines and Puerto Rico. And they were all ours. They all we we got them all. So interesting comments there from Trump. I'm also reminded one of a couple of other historical events here. One is my friend Yegor said that in Belarus, Lukashenko did something very similar, bringing in migrants, mostly Iraqi Kurdish migrants, and using them and encouraging them, actually bringing them in on these like cheap flights and cheap tours, supposedly a Belarus, and then encouraging them to flutter over the border into Poland to sort of punish them for some things that they had done, sanctioning him and calling his election into question.

31:35It also, of course, reminds very much of the Texas strategy of busing migrants into blue cities, into New York City, into Chicago, using people as pawns to make this sort of political point and create difficult political situations for leaders that they're at odds with. So it's not like this would be a new tactic if it is, in fact, you know, the U.S. and Israel that are encouraging this to to go forward. Yeah, that's exactly right. Another good example is Turkey, which has long used migration in order to extort the EU for concessions. I mean, and that's just what Morocco has done for forever. And you pointed out to me that apparently they found Moroccan intelligence agents among the migrants that crossed over into Ceuta.

32:23And you think about it, unfortunately, I'm going to be real. So this is, you know, I think it's a confluence of things, but it's a savvy political move, depending on whether it's Morocco, Israel and or the U.S. staging this. Because, you know, Sanchez is now put in this really difficult position. In January, he actually passed this insane amnesty for basically everyone who was in Spain, who had come to Spain irregularly, which, you know, me personally, I'll say I think it's great for the migrants and it's great to not have this underclass of, you know, illegal workers. But on the other hand, the problem with these kinds of amnesties, it's true, if you don't have overwhelming enforcement on new arrivals, amnesties just create a further incentive for more illegal immigration.

33:14And so Sanchez now has to decide, it's like, oh, do I clamp down or do I just kind of do nothing? And Sanchez has done a number of good things. His stance against the U.S. and Israel and also raising the minimum wage a ton is extremely popular. You know what's not popular? The amnesty he did, which has like a 60 % disapproval rating. Wow. So it's extremely rough. It seems like, you know, I gave the advice that he should, the correct posture, I think, for leftists is to say, look, migrants are human beings. They should not be abused, but they also can't abuse the system. And we need to have, you know, have territorial integrity.

33:54And he, to his credit, said that, you know, this incident was a gross violation of Spain's sovereignty. And a majority of those that went into the city have already been expelled. So, you know, we'll see in the long term what the electoral consequences are. There's a general election next year in Spain. And Sanchez, he's a really crafty guy, but I don't know if he's going to be able to pull the rabbit out of the hat this time. He has these coalition partners, Sumar and Poemos, that are extremely progressive. They're the no human being is illegal type of people. But they've been tanking in the polls.

34:27And they and the socialists have consistently won less votes than the PP and Vox, which are the right-wing parties. So Sanchez needs to really figure things out. And like the last election, he managed to like cobble this coalition with like minor regional parties by granting amnesty, another amnesty to Catalan separatists. And that's a whole other issue. Yeah, let's leave that Spanish separatism on the back burner. As you said, I just want to emphasize your point, D6 up here on the screen, that Spanish police had found members of Moroccan intelligence amongst the migrants. This is from El Español in Spain in terms of their investigation into it.

35:12But as you said, I do think it will be a very interesting case. It caused a real diplomatic problem for Sanchez, not just with Morocco, but there were calls to expel or I think temporarily suspend their access to the Schengen, which is the free movement of orders inside of Europe, which would be a dramatic escalation for all the citizens, obviously, of Spain kind of defeats the entire purpose of the European Union and exactly the type of thing, as you said, that could invite electoral backlash to him because of how people in Europe really like that. So, wow, fascinating, fascinating situation, Wanda.

35:44One last one for you, just on the Israel connection here. Some of the speculation I saw is that, you know, Israel, in terms of being able to export their own goods, they got some problems in the Red Sea now, to put it mildly. And so their other alternative route is through the Mediterranean Sea, which, of course, you have to go through the Strait of Gibraltar. So they have very, you know, great interest in what's going on right there. Do you think that could be part of the motivation for their interest in Ceuta here? Yeah, that's a good point. Some analysts have pointed out why Ceuta and not Melilla.

36:22Because Melilla is far away from the Strait of Gibraltar itself. The thing is, without Ceuta, Spain would have no control over the Strait. Well, I guess arguably, but the two most important ports are Gibraltar and Ceuta. And another thing that reminded me, I'm not sure how much this applies now, but some months ago I saw that Iran had given like Spanish ships passage through the Strait of Hormuz. So, yeah, you can imagine that the Israelis and the U.S. have been furious about that. Right. A really good point. Man, fascinating stuff. Really had no idea. All goes back to the Treaty of Lisbon in 1688.

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40:24A major lawsuit here in the United States between the state of New York and Calci. Let's put this up here on the screen. Calci now being sued by New York State saying that the prediction market is running a, quote, illegal gambling operation, an illegal unlicensed gambling operation, after Calci had originally proposed a framework to avoid a lawsuit with the state. Cal Sheep basically had come to the state and said, if you allow us to operate, we'll cut you in on revenue. They promised up to$10 billion in revenue for the state on an eventual basis if they were allowed to have some sort of – allowed some sort of action.

41:02The key sticking point is that Cal Sheep had proposed a North Carolina 6 % tax on trades while New York State currently has a 23 % tax on traditional gambling. So New York, they claim, would have raised$10 billion, like I said, over five years. Talks broke down and the states sued. But I do want to focus on that very specifically. This ultimately is about whether prediction markets will be allowed to operate nationwide. As in, do states have the right to regulate gambling in their state? Calci maintains until the day is long that they are not gambling, that they are a prediction market, which is authorized under event contracts, which is written into Dodd-Frank legislation, which specifically had said there are two things that you're not allowed to trade prediction or event contracts on.

41:52Ergo, under that legal framework, which has now been operationalized by the CFTC under Donald Trump, that any other event contract is allowed to be given nationwide. Thus, states are not allowed to regulate it. However, if you actually look into some of the details, a lot of that begs belief. In my opinion, let's go to the next one. For example, shall we? This is from Bloomberg, and they just showed, new data shows that Parley bets, quote, are burning gamblers, again, as their word there, as the market booms on Calci. So Calci likes to operate and to tell us that they are an event contracting website in which people can hedge risk.

42:31They famously very recently have pointed out an ice cream shop who hedges the risk of rain because their revenue is going to go down. And this guy is able to pay his rent. Or a guy who recently hosted a conference, but he wanted to hedge the risk that flights would get canceled and thus make sure that he would make his money no matter what. The truth, though, is that the vast majority of the contracts being traded on this website are just sports bets. So when we break down, like, for example, these parlay bets, the very same things, the degenerates are betting on FanDuel or DraftKings, they are losing some, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars.

43:04And what we can see in front of here, bettors on Calci's app and website, since the start of the year, excluding fees, have lost a net$294 million. The losses of these sports of wagers, quote, used to be largely captured by Sportsbook, but the prediction markets are now changing that dynamic by promoting similar trades to their small-time customers, again, the very same type of people who would be using these gambling apps in order to offer them. Of course, they demonstrate and talk to a lot of people who previously were on FanDuel. Now they're doing it on Calci. But if you're doing a quote unquote combo bet or a parlay bet, you are gambling at the end of the day.

43:44And Crystal, the reason why I wanted to highlight this is that I'm almost certain about what's going to happen. This state lawsuit is going to, what Calci is offering is something called preemption. They're moving it to federal court. They've had a mixed bag in terms of court rulings. their ultimate goal is to get this before the United States Supreme Court. The Supreme Court, which is very libertarian, largely appointed here by Donald Trump, is almost certain to side with the Trump administration. The Trump administration, CFTC, as I said, argues that these prediction markets are explicitly allowed by Dodd-Frank.

44:16Thank you to Dodd-Frank, by the way. And what it means is that you can have nationwide event contracts, aka sports gambling. And why is that all important? Because first of all, it removes the ability, even though I don't support it, of the state to regulate at all. Number one, like we're talking here about the 23 % tax versus the 6 % tax. But two, none of us really signed up for this. None of us knew that a Supreme Court case from 2018 and now these websites capitalized with hundreds of billions of dollars with all kinds of insider trading concerns and others would make it so that there will be nationwide sports gambling and there's nothing that any of us can do about it at an individual state level where at the very least we had previously understood that we had some control.

44:57Yeah, no, that's exactly right. There's a reason why Calci is so insistent that this is not gambling. These are futures contracts because futures contracts are regulated by the feds. Gambling is regulated by the states. They don't want states, and New York's not the only one, but they don't want states to be able to rein them in and regulate them. They want it to be left all to the federal level and specifically to go to the Supreme Court because they know the libertarian bent there. Now, the flip side of this is you say, OK, well, if it's being regulated by the feds, then does that mean that at the federal level under maybe a different administration, we could ban or at least control this stuff?

45:33But you can bet if there was some law passed through Congress, the Supreme Court would probably find a way to say that was unconstitutional as well. And that's where we really get into a failure of democracy that I think people are really experiencing here, not just with gambling, certainly on that front, but also on the AI data center front. There are things that are being done in our country right now that are completely transforming everything from individual communities and states all the way up to the entire world and the way that labor is going to operate in the economy that people have had effectively no say in.

46:10And so while, you know, with the AI example on the data center front, there's been some local pushback that's been successful. I don't think anyone is under any illusion that nationwide they're going to build their data centers and they're going to get what they ultimately want. So it really does contribute to, you know, all of the ills that we've talked about here, the skyrocketing levels of depression, anxiety, suicide, bankruptcy, especially among young men, which have, you know, turned out to be quite a vulnerable demographic. But also in terms of the sense that, you know, society is being changed by oligarchs who stand to profit and make a lot of money.

46:46And we're being completely shut out of being able to shape that future and what it looks like at all. Right. Yeah. Can I give everyone a good example, too, for why everyone should just stay off of these? During the World Cup between Argentina and Spain, Calci users traded 30 ,000 unique same game combos, a.k.a. Parley, with many attracting thousands of bets. In the end, fewer than 3 % resolved to yes. What are we doing here? And people willingly throw their money into this. And did anybody else, including me, notice Chalamet in his little Calci ad? And then the Calci with stuff all around the World Cup.

47:25And, you know, I guess to their credit, they charge less and they make less than the sports book. It doesn't make it any worse. You know, the fact that they're still taking advantage of so many different people. I guess who are willingly throwing their money away. And to this point, let's put E4 up here on the screen. I mean, this is now the state of the United States. Gambling has now become America's favorite pastime. Americans now spend more on sports bets than movies, art, museums, and music combined. This happened in an eight-year period from the legalization in 2018 of the 2018 Supreme Court case to 2026.

48:09That's all it took for basically unfettered and exploitative oligarchical capitalism combined with states that completely fell for this nonsense about how great all the tax revenue would be to it becoming the most important entertainment industry in America. And again, how many of us really acquiesced to this? It all just came down to a Supreme Court case. People fell for a lot of lies. We now see an explosion in addiction and in bankruptcy. I've covered dozens of those types of cases. It will only continue to get worse, worse, and worse. Actually, much of the polling is beginning to turn against this at the very time that it is becoming a nationwide pastime.

48:54So I just encourage, again, everybody to look deep inside and to say, is this actually making our country better? Or is it a massively extractive tax on the vast majority of working class men? Because that's what it is, if you actually want to look at it empirically. Last thing I want to show you is that even the corrupt NFL thinks that all of this is bad. Let's put, what is it, E5 up here on the screen. Even they came to the feds and they were like, yeah, guys, you need to do more about insider trading. And by the way, this came after there were multiple insider trades that were placed. I think it was by Arizona in the lead up to the draft where a draft insider used his insider information literally to profit tens of thousands of dollars.

49:38Luckily, he was caught. But even the NFL is going to the CFTC today. And again, the same NFL, which is totally in league with the sports gambling companies, and saying that right now a lot of these prediction markets are not – there are not enough rules that are in place in order to catch insider traders. Calci, again, would come to me and say that they hate insider traders and that they go after them. But, you know, you basically have to self-regulate and trust that they themselves would come out and guarantee that they're going to investigate. No private company, obviously, should be able to do that.

50:11So I just want to highlight that even the NFL, who is totally in league with sports gambling, despite, you know, opposing it for decades, even they are going to the feds and saying you're not doing enough to actually punish any potential insider trading, which I do believe will explode massively. Because even if Kalshi, you know, worries about insider trades, polymarket is still quasi-legal here in the United States. And plenty of insider trades get placed there all the time, as we saw with a lot of these accounts that have been happily able to predict what's going on in Iran. So here we are. And Sagar, do you think with the NFL, are they just concerned that you get to a point where no one believes that there's anything real about the games and that will undermine the value of the league?

50:52Yeah, of course, because they see it firsthand. I just talked about that draft example. You literally had a guy on the draft council bet that his team was going to draft the player that they knew they were going to draft. I mean, he's an idiot because he did it so blatantly. But all he had to do was call his brother-in-law or somebody else to go place the trade on a poly market. Nobody would have known. And he would have made himself a ton of money, and they could have split the cash. And so if he was just a little bit smarter about it, how would they have been able to catch it? And that's just talking about the draft.

51:20Let's talk about the refs. Let's talk about all of the other individual trade bets that they offer. And that's the thing, too. It's not even just about player performance. It's about player movement. It's about, I mean, you know, Love Island, that show that was just broadcast recently. Calci was all over advertising, trying to get women to join on Calci so that they could gamble on who's going to win the Love Island finale. I'm sorry. You know what? a producer who's on the show in England or wherever can't see that market, have access, let's see, to some of the voting data by ITV or Peacock or whoever runs the show and can't make a little bit of money on that or call their cousin, brother or anything.

52:01Again, Calci will tell you that they'll catch that person. Do you really trust it? Or should we just not have a market on that? Why should anybody be able to gamble on the Love Island finale? It's complete insanity. We remember, I think it was either Golden Globes or Oscars, which included the odds within it. Again, these are voting decisions that come down to like the director's guild of where there's not even that many people. And which the decision is known to a small group who easily could be able to exploit their information. So at the very basis, it just comes down to these markets shouldn't exist at all.

52:33As the NFL is actually kind of hinting at inside of this. And that's as bad. And this is them already being okay with the individual player performance bets. Just to give an example of how concerned they are about the feds. But it's coming. And that's one of the reasons I want to do this segment is that very soon the Supreme Court is going to side with Calci. I'm almost 100 percent sure of it. And this will be absolutely nationwide legal. And unless there is a complete change in the way that we regulate this at the federal level, that is your fate now as a nation. Yeah. And to go back to that piece about how now this betting, gambling is the number one pastime, surpassed movie, art, museum, concert, everything all together.

53:13I mean, just think about what that means for society. So instead of actually going to a sporting event where you're with people, which is a social behavior, you're staying home and placing a bet on your phone instead of going to a concert. Again, a social activity. You are instead spending that money, like losing that money, just feeding it to, you know, oligarchs who run these companies. So it's a profound shift. And it's happened under our noses. And they're trying to take away our ability to have any say in whether this is what we want our society to be like. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think that's very well said.

53:47Money actually is a literal finite resource. And so if you spend money on something else, then you're not going to have it for this, especially when we're looking at these World Cup bets and you're getting a 3 % win rate, which is so insane. I can't believe that that number is even legal, frankly. So yeah, there we go. Thank you to everybody who's been subscribing and supporting the show. We appreciate it. And we will see you all tomorrow.

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