9/10/25: Trump Responds To Israel Qatar Strike, Saagar Breaks Down Full Epstein Book

24:55affairs. And we put it at the top as if it's like the U.K. or something like that. It's totally nuts. And yeah, I mean, it's like one of the, you know, the critics are always like, why are you so obsessed with Israel? I'm like, well, the government's obsessed with Israel. You know, we have no choice but to like cover all of this, all of this extraordinary like gangster type behavior and just show how it emasculates, humiliates and undermines so many other U.S. strategic interests far more important than this country in the Middle East. But it's not even just Israel, because how many times did we talk about Biden getting absolutely rolled by Zelensky?

25:30How many times did Donald Trump talk about Biden getting absolutely rolled by Zelensky? And now you see something, a pretty similar dynamic playing out. Again, I think Trump seemed genuinely surprised. So what, though? Yeah, that's worse. There's no, yeah, exactly. There's no, there's nobody in the Trump administration, I mean, aside from a few people, that actually would say, like, yes, Israel, like, this is our ideological position. They should wipe out this Hamas meeting in Qatar. Like, strike Doha, do it. Nobody was, like, absolutely in favor of that happening, save maybe a handful of people working at the State Department or something like that, where you have some of those ideologues, maybe some of the people you've reported on, Sagar.

26:06But that's like the entire, to your point, that makes it worse. What other ally would Donald Trump, think about Donald Trump, would he react as he did yesterday? Yeah, it's true. I mean, it's insane. And it looks, remember all of the people after the horrible, tragic Afghanistan withdrawal who were saying, and these are some very hawkish people, who were saying this gave China permission to start making bigger plans in Taiwan. This gave Putin permission to invade Ukraine. Who does this give permission to? That's right. No, it gives permission to Israel to do whatever it wants. It's bombed like five countries in literally the span of a week.

26:44I'm not joking. But you're also listening to Modi, Xi Jinping, Putin. Like that is, I mean, if you're consistent about that point, it is real. Oh, I talked about Kim Jong-un. Same thing. Kim Jong-un flew to, I think he flew to Beijing, you know, for the National Military Parade. literally his first ever like diplomatic conference outside of meetings with Donald Trump. And he just doesn't care anymore about U.S. words or any of that. He's like, I'm going to keep my nukes. I'm just going to keep doing whatever I want to do. You can live with it or not. We don't care anymore. All right. I mean, that's really the response.

27:16But we're going to take Greenland. They don't take. But that didn't even work, did it? You know, we're not even on a path to get that done. So, yeah, it's just it's dramatically undermining the U.S. strategic position. It makes him look just like Israel. You know, it makes you look like a bitch. Makes him look like Biden. Yeah, it makes you look just like Biden, who was also humiliated by this country over and over again. I'm just like waiting for, I never thought I would say this. I'm waiting for somebody to be like Bill Clinton and just say, who's the superpower here? Right? I mean, why is this so uncommon?

27:43You know, George W. Bush even criticized Israel's military. What happened to this country? That was not that, that was in the year 2001. Ari Fleischer criticized Israel from the White House podium. You know, I mean, what has happened? And, well, I think I know the answer. Anyway, maybe it fits with the next part, isn't it? Maybe this is a good transition to the Epstein block. So let's get into it, shall we? Apple Vacations, where your story starts. The Summer Savings Event is here at Apple Vacations. It's the perfect time to bring everyone together for the getaway you've been dreaming about. Book between July 24th and August 27th and enjoy up to 55 % instant savings.

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29:44All right, we're going to turn to the Epstein story now. The White House continues to insist that the story is a hoax, specifically only that Trump's signature in the birthday book was a hoax, but that not all of it is a hoax, but the entire thing is also kind of a hoax. So here's what they had to say. What is the theory since these documents came from the Epstein estate? Who is, I guess, in your view, faking these documents? I did not say the documents are a hoax. I said the entire narrative surrounding Jeffrey Epstein right now that is absorbing many of the liberal cable channels on television is a hoax that is being perpetuated by opportunistic Democrats like Ro Khanna and the others whom you saw on that press conference outside of Capitol Hill who are trying to push this hoax against the president of the United States.

30:32What exactly is the hoax? I'm just trying to understand what's fake. What's fake is not the documents. The hoax is the Democrats pretending to care about victims of crime when they do not care about victims of crime, when they have done nothing to solve crimes, when they have done nothing to lock up child pedophiles and child rapists across the country. And when they are now using victims as political props to try and, again, smear the president of the United States and drag on this bad story about him. It is a distraction. The Democrats view this story as nothing more than an attempt to distract from the accomplishments and the achievements of this administration.

31:06And that is what we mean when we call it a hoax. That's what they mean when they call it a hoax. Okay. All right. Got it. Interesting. All right. So we use that as a segue because we're not able to fully go through the entire book. I have now read the entire book, Emily and I, and we've curated a bunch of images here. This is 238 pages. 238 pages. It took me a couple hours to go through everything and to scrutinize it. And so I have collated, I think it's 16 of some of the most crazy images. And also just to demonstrate to you the degenerate lifestyle that this man lived out in the open amongst the richest and most powerful people in the world.

31:43And to which they not only thought it was funny, but that many of them were, quote, in on the joke. And basically all of the letters were written to it. Keep in mind these are not like frat boys who are 16, 17 years old. They're like 50, 60-year-old men, right, at a certain point who are all making like truly disgusting jokes and letters and all these other things acknowledging his degenerate behavior. Which, by the way, a lot of this does undermine the testimony that Gillen Maxwell just gave the government. We'll get to that. Don't worry. Yeah, we're going to get to that. Ghislaine has got a lot of explaining to do in terms of her sworn testimony that just come out from the birthday book itself.

32:21So let's start with image number one. Let's just give everybody a taste of Epstein. Yeah, trigger warning, I guess I should have said that beforehand. So there's a photo on the left there of Epstein and his bros all wearing Speedos or tighty white, whatever that you want to say, and then recreating the image together. Shout out to the guy on the right who actually did keep his boxers on for the recreation image where Epstein just, you know, hanging out with the guys together, recreating images some 30 years later. all of us in our tighty-whities and in our underwear for the camp. Very normal behavior that middle-aged, actually not even middle-aged, 50-year-old men are engaging in, right?

33:04So just give me a little taste. This comes from the friends section of the book, the early friends, the people who he grew up with. This is the Brooklyn section of the book. The Brooklyn section, that's right. So the book is, yeah, so there's a table of contents for this 238-page book that Glenn Maxwell put together. And the pages that the House Oversight Committee released are scans with some redactions. So the chapters start with prologue, family, Brooklyn, then it goes to girlfriends, then it goes to children, which we're going to get to. That entire, all of the names there are redacted. We have some information, Sagar's been chasing it down.

33:37But that picture is from the Brooklyn section of the book, which I don't know about you, Sagar. I mean, you're very deep in Epstein mythology. But this book, even just the Brooklyn section, even just hearing reflections from some of his friends on Jeffrey Epstein's early life, his upbringing, his accordion playing, I actually think we got substantially more information about Jeffrey Epstein's personal biography. That's right. Yeah. So just to explain a little bit, there's been a lot of questions about who Epstein was before Dalton. We focus on the Dalton School and where he is this teacher who's never graduated from college.

34:12He's hired by Bill Barr's father to teach math. We know that he was chasing young girls, even as a teacher at age 23. So it's kind of a question. And you're like, hey, where do these predilections come from? And yes, by the way, he was likely hired by Bill Barr's father. We can go down that rabbit hole, but we're going to. Thank you. But prior to that, there's kind of a black hole about Epstein. We know he grew up there in Brooklyn. We don't really know a lot about what he did. What comes out from the book is that even when he's a teenager, him and his friends are all reminiscing about their wild sexual escapades.

34:42not I mean look I'm not even gonna read it like I it's so graphic I can't I literally cannot read some of this stuff it's it's wild I mean and it's one of those where you're like oh so even as a teenager you and your friends were engaged in like very predatory creepy behavior I'm gonna get to some of the images just to show you guys some of the jokes that they were thrown around I did think it was important uh let's put the next one up on the screen very early in the book we see this image of a woman who is posed there with Jeffrey Epstein. And the caption is, quote, he is the boyfriend of X, quote, we think he works for the CIA.

35:18So why does that matter? Because it's exactly in those very early days, and I focus on this in the Epstein mythology, that his initial interactions with intelligence, or at least appear to be interacted with intelligence, there's a limited amount of evidence for this, seem to come to the surface. And that is his interactions with these arms dealers where he allegedly, according to their testimony, got on a private plane to the Pentagon and was engaged in sketchy financial transactions, all of which are involving people like Robert Maxwell and the Khashoggi family, so many of these others who are basically high financier cutouts for different states like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and others.

35:57Some of it is also linked back to Iran Contra. Just to give you an example, and it's in these early days that I don't think it's a coincidence, quote, we think he works for the CIA. Even though Ghislaine said, oh, he would never do that. And then they put it in the book. I would have known. And then, of course, they put it in the book. Maybe it was a joke. Maybe it was a joke. I don't think so. All right. So let's continue, shall we, to the children's section of the book. Again, where these predilections are just like out in the open. I literally don't even know. I mean, I don't have any words for this stuff.

36:27Like, it's like, here comes the bride, all dressed in white. You know, where's the groom and his ladies, where is the reminder, work on his binder in the glory, what does that say, of his dog? Like, this is literally a children's, like, rhyme image that was drawn for him by a literal child. We don't know exactly the name because it's redacted, actually, in the book, but this is, for some reason, meaningful to him in this birthday book. It could be a relative. Like, again, it's not all that explained. It's creepy. It's weird. The bride, you know? What is the mythology, the symbology? of this. And if you're at all familiar with some of the, you know, the, I really hesitate to like go in, but if you ever watched True Detective season one, right, you know, the, the idea of the child bride and all of that is it's like deep in the lore of a lot of the way that these guys act.

37:18And I'm not making this stuff up. Let's put the fourth image here on the screen. I mean, again, trigger warning. Okay. Thankfully, some of it is censored, but this is a small child girl who somebody's, you know, family member, I guess, parent submitted to the bulk of her, like, posing suggestively in pajamas playing the piano. Keep the piano in mind. It continues to, like, recycle throughout the book. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say, if you're just listening to this and you're not seeing the poses that this girl is in, there's one where she's sort of popping her hip out. Right, it's like hyper-sexualized image of a young girl.

37:56Right. So if someone is trying to, you know, if we're steel manning the Epstein defenders who say maybe it's a niece. No. Maybe it's I mean, even if it is. Oh, my God. It's disgusting. Yeah. Look, as a father of a young girl now, I just I whoever did this, you're sick. I mean, you should be prosecuted. But let's continue. I mean, more more photos. OK, let's go to the next one. A presumably young child holding a teddy bear. These are all being included in the book. I don't know exactly what that image on the right is. Potentially it's Epstein or somebody else with the child laying in bed. But I mean, again, these are really disgusting images in the context of some of the things that we know about Epstein from this point forward.

38:38So this then fits very importantly, again, with his early upbringing and with his friends. So let's go to the next one because here this is a little joke between Epstein and his friends. So this is a photo, again, for those who are just listening, of Epstein and his friend. One is wearing a ski mask. The guy's holding a knife in his hand. Epstein is, what is that, pantyhose is wearing over his face? And they're posing. And the caption is written, quote, finally at the home of our friend, let's call him Mr. Brown, Jeffrey unveiled his plan. To some, it may have seemed a get-rich-quick scheme. But to me, it was pure genius.

39:15Rob and kill was the name of the plan. The first victim, blank, to be attacked and brutally plundered. Would she want more than that? Question mark. On the boardwalk in Venice Beach? Broad daylight. The dastardly thieves were never caught. Postscript. I retired, quote, from the life. But I recently read an article in New York which led me to believe my old friend, Mr. E, had continued on and become an industry leader. I just, look, I know it was a different time. I mean, I was alive in 2003, so were you. I don't think it was all that different. I think that's, I don't think there's an innocent explanation for this.

39:53So, like, what is the implication exactly here? That we used to go around robbing and raping women, like, you know, with masks on our face? This is the sign of sick, degenerate individuals. At the very least, and potentially much larger criminal behavior. And it's that context of who he was amongst all of his friends and others, which becomes relevant as we start to get into the richest and most powerful people in the world, which gets to our next one. Let's put it up there, please, on the screen. So here we have a letter. On the occasion of Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday, a VF—I haven't fully deciphered this.

40:30There's a key in the book, the Vanity Fair. All right, so a vanity—okay, that's what it is. So a VFPC is something to be. A VFPC is something to see. A liver, a lover, a Jeff, a Jeffrey. Let's all give a cheer for today is his 50. Five decades, I, or half century by birds and bucks. C and M's are his key. Blonde, red, or brunette spread out geographically. With his net of fish, Jeff's now the old man and the sea. Teaching math, trading options, or foreign currency. Green eye shades, schemes and plans. A unique tax strategy. Wet dream, and I can't read that, an architect's wild spree. Moscow, Paris, Santa Fe, Alhambra East, Jamboree.

41:11Let's go to the next part. Maxwellian delight, a mother's treasure. Great joy, most surely. Harvidian patron, brain researcher for extending. I can't read that right there. Outrageous, iconoclastic, unconventional, spirit-free. Best of all, a dear friend. Happy birthday, Jeffrey. Love and kisses, Leon Black. Okay, that's Leon Black, who was one of the richest, most powerful people in the state of, or in the city of New York. Private equity giant paid Jeffrey Epstein some$170 million. Most of us don't really know why. He's joking here about the Vanity Fair poster child, I guess the VFPC. They're all joking about the fact that Vanity Fair, of course, included him on that cover in 2003, where that just scratched the surface of some of his predilections.

41:58But unfortunately, a lot of the most damning reporting was actually buried after threats and others were made against Graydon Carter. And the reporter who worked on that story, Vicki Ward has shown that she had so much of the Epstein story, even at that time, but that it was killed after legal threats and by a lot of other stuff that was going on. Now, let's go to the next one, shall we? This is a, quote, vanity unfair cover featuring Nicole Kidman that was included by Alan Dershowitz in his birthday letter to Jeffrey. What does that say? Nicole Kidman of Eyes Wide Shut fame, by the way. And that's where the piano also cuts in here.

42:36They say, bring it on, Jeffrey. Consume me, Jeffrey. Intoxicate me, Jeffrey. Nicole Kidman bears her soul. So it looks like what Alan Dershowitz did is he like superimposed Epstein's name onto a bunch of other captions that are there on there. It says, Jeffrey Epstein on the rampage. Jeffrey Epstein's bloody sovereign. Jeffrey Epstein stole my heart. Al-Qaeda in South America financed by Epstein. Financed by Epstein. Interesting. And they also say, who was Jack the Ripper? Was it Jeffrey Epstein? So that's the vanity unfair image. Wow. By Alan Dershowitz. Meanwhile, he's harassing pierogi sellers on the island of Martha's Vineyard.

43:16No, he's holding them accountable. Holding them accountable for their anti-Semitism. This is attached with a note from Dershowitz that says, Dear Jeffrey, as a birthday gift to you, I managed to obtain an early version of the vanity unfair article. I talked them into changing the focus from you to Bill Clinton, as you will see from the enclosed excerpt. Right. Happy birthday and best regards. So then Dershowitz is acting like it's a funny joke to then say he got Vanity Fair to focus on Bill Clinton. Like, ha ha, Vanity Fair, so mean to Jeffrey Epstein, thinks he's involved in all of this stuff.

43:48But actually, it's Bill Clinton. Here's a funny joke. Your friend Bill Clinton from Alan Dershowitz. So funny, especially because Clinton was also included in the book. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. So let's go to the next one. As you can all see here, put that on the screen. So here you say, leaving you with home, interesting friends to entertain instead. This is part of a 10-page letter with images that was submitted by Lord Jonathan Mendelsohn. Sorry, I don't want to. Peter Mendelsohn. Sorry, Peter Mendelsohn, I mean, who is the UK ambassador to the United States, right? Literally.

44:27Oh, yeah, I've met him. the Baron Mendelsohn, who is a senior labor figure and the current UK ambassador. He says, I regret all of my previous interactions with Epstein. That's his defense, basically. So this is the current ambassador. All right. Let's go to the next one. This is where things start to get really disturbing. And this is where you start to see these cartoon images and others where we're We're just making open reference to the jet and to girls and hanging out. This is submitted by someone named Joel. The table of contents seems to indicate that it is Joel Paschow, who is a real estate developer, former friend apparently of Donald Trump.

45:10You guys all saw him yesterday in the image of the check from Trump that was given to Epstein for a depreciated woman. But to be honest, some of the creepier stuff comes from him. Let's go to the next one. And this is, I mean, just such an insane photo. It's like a cartoon drawing of Epstein grooming young girls in the year 1983. And then all of them massaging him in the year 2003, 20 years later. It says, what a great country, J.E. tattooed on one of their asses, literally. Scantily clad in a bikini, presumably either on an island or somewhere. Some people were saying it might be Mar-a-Lago. Actually, I'm not 100 % sure whether it is that's what it is.

45:49There's a building in the background. There's a building in the background with palm trees. I could see it, but it also could have been Little St. James, his island retreat. This is actually one I found interesting. So this was a world news joke headline included. And it says, international everyman of history revealed as an alien in disguise. Strange beings from planet near distant star hatch sinister plot to corner choice real estate on Earth. They all exhibit curious aversion to food and wine. And then what's that last one say? Okay, ex-president taken in, presumably Mr. Bill Clinton. And then let's get to this image that I've been kind of obsessing about this image.

46:28And maybe if you guys can all help me. And this is what I mean about the piano becoming a recurring motif in the Epstein book. So this looks like it was written or drawn by a child. And I'm still trying to figure it all out. So basically it shows a person playing piano in the center. All of these pink things are presumably chairs that the audience is like encircled around. But the creepy part is this girl, presumably a girl, who is there drawn in gold who is at the center of the floor. Now some innocent explanation people were saying was that she's performing. It doesn't look like she's performing to me, Emily.

47:11It looks like she's laying on the ground, like prostrate, potentially injured. I don't know what it is. The person who signed this, I won't say their name. We've desperately been trying to locate this individual down there at the bottom. We don't know who this guy is. I have some indication, actually it could have been drawn by a child. It was included in the children's section. It certainly looks like it was drawn by a child. It looks like it was drawn by a child. I can't say 100%, but it does look that way. I mean, I don't know if there's an explanation for this. And you can probably see whatever you want to see.

47:41Some people are saying, oh, it's just a piano recital. But there's so many – there's this weird piano recurring motif throughout the birthday book. And the reason why I think that's relevant is because of the most famous scene from Eyes Wide Shut where they're literally playing a piano during their, like, sex call. And look, I know I sound crazy. I know I sound crazy. Yeah, in a ballroom, right, exactly. And I'm – you know, some of the other stuff is not there, like the masks and all of that. And maybe there is an innocent explanation. As I said, I would love to get in contact with the person who drew this.

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50:05It's like a Weinstein thing. They didn't just know. It was not just an open secret. It was an acknowledged thing between all of them. Yeah, it was a joke what they were all up to. Let's continue to the next one. Here you have one of Epstein's girlfriends. She says, visiting you down in Palm Beach, quote, can't get a second of privacy with you and a camera around. Ha ha. And she includes a photo of her scantily clad. Her face is blurred out there. Look, I mean, presumably, and this is kind of what Tracy and other defenders have said, is like, look, a lot of these people were there voluntarily. I mean, maybe she was, but kind of the point that I take away from that is the camera there being present.

50:47And also, all of these pictures that presumably these guys are all taking with each other, making a joke about the Trump check, about, you know, the one of him in his underwear with his bros, the one of him with his friend in the ski mask. Well, there's a naked picture of him in the book. There is a naked picture of him in the book. His penis is redacted. And there's also a picture of Ghislaine without wearing her top on. So it's like this guy had a predilection for the camera. He had a predilection for documentation, right? And that's one of the things that a lot of people are focused on. They have said, oh, we don't have a lot of the images.

51:18The tapes don't exist, right, from the FBI and all of that. It's like, well, you know, there's – by the way, Ghislaine Maxwell said, I know every inch. I know every inch of those properties. I built them, et cetera. and, you know, it took me two seconds to find photos of surveillance cameras in Epstein's bedroom all around the Manhattan townhouse. It was part of the original police report back in 2019. And here they are, some of his girlfriends joking about it in the birthday book. Oh, can't get in a moment of privacy because there's always a camera around. Yep. Right? Okay. So I'd like to see some of that.

51:49Go to the next one, shall we? What do we have here? So again, remember this back in 2003. This is the last one. This is from one of the girlfriends. She said, before Jeffrey, it was a 22-year-old divorcee. This is the part I picked. After Jeffrey, I now live in New York City, have traveled to Paris, London, Milan, Copenhagen, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Stockholm, all the other great places. It's just a year in Sagar's life. Yeah, I wish, you know, except for New Mexico. I don't know why New Mexico's there. No offense to New Mexico, it's fine. I wouldn't put it up there with St. John or Moscow, St. Petersburg, or Aspen.

52:19That's just me. You know, I don't think I'd put Rwanda there either. Yeah, Rwanda, right. Okay, but the last one, the next paragraph. I have met Prince Andrew, President Clinton, the Sultan of Brunei, who by some accounts is the richest person in the world, Donald Trump, Antonio Vargas, Naomi Campbell, Stephanie Seymour, Peter Brandt, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, brilliant scientists, lawyers, and businessmen. I have flown on the Concorde, gone skydiving. I have seen the private quarters of Buckingham Palace, sat on the Queen

53:00So that is what you could find yourself at the center of with Epstein. I mean, look, we get a lot more questions than answers, in my opinion. So what we really see, I think, from this is the acknowledgement of his degenerate lifestyle from the entire elite that was around him. that letter about all the people that his 22-year-old girlfriend or what is able to meet sit on the queen's throne. There's that famous photo of Ghislaine and Kevin Spacey sitting on the throne, right? After having a private tour arranged for them by Prince Andrew, she says she met Prince Andrew, who says, oh, I never had anything to do with him.

53:38Ghislaine vociferously defended Prince Andrew in her sworn testimony. And the final one, which guys, we're going to add this in post, but it is a letter from Elliot Wolk. And to me, it's actually one of the most significant for the intelligence ties. And it says, Jeffrey, I remember in the mid-1970s, you being a star salesman for our tax advantage strategies and hedged options program. Okay? And what does he continue on? He says, I was running an account for Bob Maxwell. You always had the ability to know everyone and be charming. Was that when you first discovered the Maxwell teenage daughter, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.

54:19Happy birthday, Elliot Wolk. Elliot Wolk, just so everyone knows, is a former Bear Stearns executive. His work, his letter was included after Ace Greenberg, the CEO, legendary Wall Street CEO, Ace Greenberg, who hired Jeffrey Epstein after meeting him at the Dalton School. And this direct, look, I mean, it's not confirmation that that's when they met. But Ghislaine's sworn testimony is that Epstein never met her father and they had no connection. Zero, right? That's what she said to Todd Blunt. It's under oath in her sworn testimony. Also, she says that she met him, what is it, in the 90s after she had some social fallout with her father and moved to New York.

54:56Well, here you have Elliot Wolk openly insinuating that he met Ghislaine when she was a teenager. And Ghislaine put this in the book, by the way. Ghislaine put this in the book. That's right. Ghislaine put this in the book. And, quote, I was running an account for Bogman. This is one of the things is I've been trying to hammer home to people. This is how he got involved with Maxwell, Khashoggi, and all these other folks. By the way, we're openly acknowledging, at least in the Khashoggi one, of being in the orbit of the Epstein advisors and others, the J. Epstein company. And if you put this together with that New York Times piece that we covered yesterday about the hundreds of millions of dollars, some billions of dollars in transactions run through J.P.

55:31Morgan's estate for openly that they were acknowledging for human trafficking purposes, You could see why somebody with a vast financial network who knows the global financial elite is a convenient money manager will be very useful to any global intelligence agency. And then also why that usefulness could potentially come in handy whenever you get caught up in a Palm Beach County affair in 2007 that goes federal and you get the sweetheart deal, the non-prosecution agreement back in 2007. So I think that I know it's really gross, but I thought it was important that we go through. I didn't even include some of the most degenerative stuff here because I literally can't read it to you all.

56:09Yeah. I mean, I think that's the tone of the book. I just really recommend if you are interested in this case, you take the time to go through the book as most of you can, as much of it as you can. It'll take an hour or two, but it gives you a sort of opportunity, like a window into Epstein's life and social circle. and even just soaking in the tone of the book, as disgusting as it is. I mean, one of the things that Sagar didn't read is a letter from Johnny Boy Kafka. Oh, I know exactly what letter this is. And it's a way that, I can't imagine talking to another human being this way, let alone putting it in writing and wanted it compiled, or asking for it to be compiled into a leather-bound book.

56:55And I'm just going to do a little bit of it here. 50 years old, you really have had a pretty amazing life. Amazing because of where and when it started. Paula and Seymour effing. Of course, it says the real thing there. Who was there to tell him where to stick it? Keeps on going. Uses the C word about Epstein's mother in a joke letter to Epstein on his 50th birthday, making a joke about his mother's C word. Who talks like that? And spitting about it. And it is, yep. You missed the spitting guard. That's right. And it is over and over again. I mean, it goes into even more from that. But who talks like that to their friend, puts it in writing for a leather-bound scrapbook on their 50th birthday?

57:41I mean, it's just bizarre to see the combination of juvenile things like Happy Barf Day, like it's a teenage yearbook, combined with the jokes about plundering women, the jokes about violence, naked pictures of Jeffrey Epstein, an entire chapter that's titled Children. And Sagar, this to me, so the Wall Street Journal reports sourcing originally of the Trump picture, which now there are handwriting analyses going on. The White House has said they would welcome a handwriting analyses because they're denying that it's Donald Trump's signature. Trump has said maybe someone else signed his name, attributed it to him.

58:25That poem has always seemed enormously creepy. That poem also fits in perfectly with the tone of this book, where you have people like Lord Peter Mandelson, Leon Black, Ghislaine Maxwell herself speaking cryptically in very odd, sort of cheeky language about very dark stuff. And you've gone through some of the examples, but this is also just the entire book is infused. Yeah, that's right. I picked 18 pages out of 238 pages. Okay, there's a million that I could have picked that are, these are just the most, this is to give everybody like the biggest flavor in case you don't have the time. But yeah, if you want to, go through it.

59:04I mean, it's literally littered. The piano thing, it's everywhere. I don't know, what is up with the piano? Well, here's one. I understood years ago from a woman, Ghislaine came to Palm Beach Horse Show looking for what I thought was a horse, that she was on a mission, for a collection of breast photos, a compilation, of course, for you. I came to see you some months later and you told me to take my top off. With the usual Epstein smile, you looked at my breasts and said, yeah, I was right. And it just goes on and on. And the only reason I brought that one up, Sagar, is because, to your point, this is just a handful of examples from 238 pages.

59:38The tone of the entire book is not, Happy birthday, Jeffrey. Here are some fun memories that we had together. It's happy birthday, Jeffrey. You love sex. You love, there's a couple of pictures of animals having sex. Did you see these? Oh, of course. Which is a lion mounting a female lioness who seems to not want it. And this is a joke. That's the entire book. Entire book. Yep. Very important to note. And look, like we said, we're going to continue to follow it. But it is, you know, it's funny. I always try to move away from the stuff about, oh, global pedophile elite, et cetera. Because I'm like, okay, well, I think there's a lot of conspiracy around that.

1:00:18But the intelligence story is the one that I'm the most focused on because that's what I think. But then you read this book, man, and you're like, oh, man, I don't know. I look at this and I just see this open flavor. I mean, am I just lame? Like when somebody asks me to wish a friend happy birthday, I go, hey, man, happy birthday. Love you. What else did you say? You said love and kisses to Leon. Love you, brother. That's all you say. I can't think of anything else. Congratulations on having a kid or whatever. Like that's the extent to which my communications are with my friends. I have never seen any of this type of stuff before.

1:00:56It is a window into the most depraved, degenerate type of behavior. And yeah, who knows where it will keep going. Good on House Oversight for putting this whole thing out there. Because now when you read the original Wall Street Journal story where the sourcing is unclear, it sounds like what they got it from in the journal story is we know that it was in the DOJ records. So it sounds like that original journal story, which, by the way, came out, I think, the day before or after Maureen Comey left the Department of Justice. But, you know, we don't know anything definitive in that space. But it sounds like it came from DOJ files and someone leaked it.

1:01:32Well, this came straight from the Epstein estate. So for Trump, he's then going to have to contend either this was always a fake letter from Donald Trump or someone slipped it into whatever the Epstein estate has to frame him. slipped a fake letter into whatever the Epstein estate has to frame him. So that's the argument he now has to confront, which is not an easy argument to make. But also, Sagar, I just think it – the Wall Street Journal, I don't want to second-guess them Monday morning quarterback necessarily, but I kind of do actually want to second-guess them. With the picture itself, that story would have been much, much, much more powerful.

1:02:09They should have released the picture. My only theory on why they didn't is that their source said that you can't do it. Or they didn't see it. Or they didn't have it. Yeah. So there's a couple ways that this stuff kind of happens, just so people know. One of the things is sometimes people don't want to leak you a direct document. The reason why is that it's like that reality winner. Metadata. Remember? Yeah. So there's metadata. Sometimes these scans have identifying images. So they'll say, okay, I'll describe it to you, but I won't actually give you the image. Or I'll give you the image, but you can't print it.

1:02:37So my only theory for why they could not have released it is only because their source told them not to do it. There's a lot of questions of whether it came to the GOJ. I kind of think it came from Ghislaine Maxwell because a lot of this not only was part of the Epstein estate, but people will know that some of the photos from the book were part of the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. which means it could have been attached as an exhibit and were made available in discovery to the Ghislaine Maxwell team, who, of course, could easily are trying to leak and send, you know, shots across the bow at the Trump administration, which, you know, means that they might get their sweetheart transfer to a nice little facility.

1:03:14So it could have come from a lot of different places. But now it's out there and it's out there. And I think the people, all the people in the book should have to answer. You know, some of them, a lot of them are just so filthy rich and old at this point. They're like buried behind their walls in Palm Beach. They won't answer any questions. They've just, you know, like Les Wexner and others, they've erected walls or they don't do any public interviews, nothing. They've issued one statement five years ago. They refer back to it, but it shouldn't go away. But there are dozens of names in this book.

1:03:44There are so many pictures. There's so many more biographical details about the early years of Jeffrey Epstein's life and the middle years of Jeffrey Epstein's life, that it's a great example of why releasing the files with redactions, appropriate redactions, we don't know whether these redactions are too far or whatever, but appropriate redactions opens this story up. And there are going to be so many threads that are pulled at just over the next few days, over the next few years, about trying to piece together, that'll help us get closer to the truth. So it's a good thing that we have access to this.

1:04:17Agreed. All right. We'll continue to monitor and we'll keep you guys updated.

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