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26:50Where the FBI partners with these individuals is on a case by case basis and not a rolling access basis. We, for the first time at the FBI, have professionally partnered and officially partnered with more private sector individual companies and social media and AI.

27:06Emily Jashinsky:Okay, so FBI partnering with Flock, not a surprise, but basically what he's saying, right, Ryan? Yeah, describing the efforts to just basically film everything. Trump is now pro-Flock, of course. Of course, Trump with incredible anti-instincts. like one of the great political talents of several generations is just on the wrong side of absolutely everything now yeah it's but it used to be the opposite he used to have like this gut instinct he now has a gut instinct of how to infuriate people it's going great for him uh patel also got questions about showing up in the u.s men's hockey team olympic locker room after the win Let's watch E2.

27:50And apparently you wanted to go to the Olympics. And you combined, you were four days there and you did some quote work, a dinner with the ambassador, an hour with Italy counterpart operatives, three 20-minute meetings of a security briefing and a 30-minute tour over four days. And then you barged into the celebration of our winning Olympic team. What were you doing doing that. Can't you let the players enjoy the joy of their own victory? What you'll never understand is the players who are my friends invited me into the locker room. What you'll never understand is that during that trip where 300 ,000 Americans went to Italy to participate in the games and watch them, not a single security incident occurred.

28:37What you'll never understand is throughout the World Cup, not a single security incident occurred because we stood a joint operation center up there. And the most important thing to come out of that trip, besides the American men defeating the Canadians and celebrating the love of this country and inviting me in to do so is the fact that we obtained the seizure and capture of China's most prolific hacker and returned him to the United States. And how about your trip to the Boondoggle Ranch? How many days off a year do you take? Because I took four this year.

29:04Emily Jashinsky:Well, you'll never understand. Ryan was busting out laughing. I sometimes wish we had the audio turned on while we watched video clips because watching Ryan watch Kash Patel was a real treat. The players invited him. You will never understand that, Peter Welch. All my friends are just sitting right here off screen, off camera. You can't see them. I will say, I think it's true that probably like one or two of the players are friends with him and invited him. He's known to be a big hockey guy. But I'm not sure that's the best excuse. That's the point. Yes. For the FBI director crashing the locker room.

29:36Emily Jashinsky:Now, very bizarre exchange that I think dominated headlines actually yesterday from the Kash Patel testimony. Despite the fact, by the way, that Chuck Grassley, ahead of the hearing, released documents showing that Thomas Crooks, the shooter in Butler, the alleged shooter in Butler, had his cremation paid for by an anonymous donor. This is in FBI records that Chuck Grassley released yesterday. And there are all kinds of serious questions Kash Patel should be facing. We've covered a couple of them here. But social media could not stop talking, could not stop talking about the many exchanges Kash Patel had over the FBI's new bestiality policy, E1.

30:19Emily Jashinsky:What about the bestiality? Same thing, because the regs wrote it up in a fashion before I arrived that addressed prostitution, bestiality and trafficking. They were there before I got there. Tell me what it said before. It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it. Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal. This side of what? The bestiality? Yes. So you disqualified the animal? Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're not going to disqualify them. I understand. In a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who are some of the worst individuals on planet Earth, they don't just traffic you for prostitution.

31:00should they traffic you for degrading acts of all kind and they force you into that type of conduct? And some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI. I mean, these changes didn't start with you, did they? Somebody came to you and recommended? Yeah. Yeah. And when you saw bestiality, I say this with respect, the person who recommended it, why didn't you just say what planet did you parachute in from why do why do i want to leave that was my initial why do i want to leave with my chin and get into bestiality that was my initial response senator but they then explained to me and showed me cases in which people were forced into it and had applied to the fbi and so i thought they should be considered it's not an automatic disqualification that's all okay some tough questioning there from senator foghorn

31:56Emily Jashinsky:Leghorn, a Republican of Louisiana, John Kennedy. But Ryan, what it sounds like happened is that the FBI wants to work with victims who, like, hire victims to help the FBI. And some of those victims happen to have been people who were trafficked, probably for the purposes of pornography, into situations where there's bestiality and someone came to Katsh Patel and said, they can't be disqualified or we don't want to disqualify people for this. I don't know. I'm trying to cut through the weirdness of this story. Yeah, that's what happened. I think that's exactly right. I could have helped the FBI out with this.

32:36So here's what you say. If you're a trafficking victim, anything that you were forced to do while a trafficking victim does not automatically disqualify you from employment at the FBI. Right. Done. You don't need to go into a definitive list of all of the different things that people may be forced to do while in trafficking unless you want foghorn leghorn making fun of you for your new policy on bestiality in the Senate.

33:13Emily Jashinsky:Yes, which is exactly what happened. And also that totally reasonable policy. The subtext here is the FBI is having, like a lot of other places, recruitment issues. And so they're trying to figure out ways that they can get, you know, expand the pool of people. But also, if you're the FBI, you would actually have a particular interest in people who know trafficking because they've been victims of it and survived it. So they would have more insight for law enforcement than others might. I don't even know how to land this plane. I mean, Kash Patel's right, but there was a better way to write that rule.

34:01Emily Jashinsky:They're also, I mean, swamped with suspicions from conservatives and I think normal people across the board. I'm not sure that Kash Patel has to trust the American public exactly. But Butler continues to be a huge source of suspicion, as those documents yesterday showed from Chuck Grassley. Mike Lee pressed Kash Patel a bit on that and or a bit on what we still don't know about Butler. Same thing with the Charlie Kirk case. Obviously, as that goes to trial, there'll be even more pressure on the FBI when it starts to emerge, what the evidence is, what the evidence isn't. But he's in a very difficult spot.

34:38Emily Jashinsky:We'll see how long he lasts in the administration. He's a loyalist, to your point, maybe not even by choice. He's a loyalist because he wants to have Trump's protection now that he's been in the job. I think that's actually a good observation, Ryan. So maybe he'll survive the whole thing. I don't know. Ryan doesn't know either. I am just glad that in this very dark era that Kash Patel is the head of the FBI. It's fun. Compared to. It's fun. Imagine if they'd put a competent, dedicated ideologue who was committed. Matt Gaetz. Like, well, he probably finds it. But imagine if you had a Stephen Miller-like figure also in charge of the FBI, using the awesome powers that the FBI does have.

35:28Emily Jashinsky:Instead of Kash Patel. Why are they bothering Kash Patel about his vacations? Take as many vacations as you want, bro. Like, I want you partying. Join the U.S. men's hockey team. Join them. Come back to the office enough to create dysfunction. I don't want you completely gone, but mostly. All right. Well, Ryan, you have a big interview that we have to get to next. Let's pivot there. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the Survivor Files.

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38:22Hope you join us. I'll see you there, friend. So we can put this element up on the screen. This is from the Yemeni military media, and they write, this is a translation, get ready for high quality footage of the downing of a Saudi F-15 fighter jet and its wreckage in the Mareeb government. This comes after reports throughout the night of the downing from Houthi officials and Houthi-linked journalist Hussein Abu Qaidi, who we're going to talk to in just one moment, had posted last night Breaking news, Yemen army announced they have shot down a Saudi fighter jet, F-15 in Mareeb province. Mareeb is one of the only kind of oil rich areas of Yemen.

39:09Mareeb city is one of the lone holdouts of some of these Saudi backed forces. There have been days of negotiations going on between, and we'll talk about that with Al-Bukhidi in a second, between the Ansarallah forces, otherwise known as the Houthis, and the kind of holdouts inside Ma 'arib city. Those negotiations have broken down very recently, and so the Saudis have sent in some F-15s to kind of try to bomb the area. And as was the big fear among Saudi backers, if you do that, you might get shot down. And it seems like very quickly in the in the Saudi effort to counteract these on to a lot of advances, if they appear to already have lost a plane, the reports from last night were that one of the pilots died from his injuries sustained during the explosion.

40:07And that but that the other has been captured. Again, this is unconfirmed at this point. But my take, curious for your take, I don't think Yemeni media would post get ready for high quality footage of the downing of a Saudi F-15 fighter jet if they didn't have that footage. Like that is a...

40:25Emily Jashinsky:I'm sure they do. That is a very damaging thing to fake. Because then if you don't have it, then who's going to believe you ever again? No, I'm sure they do have it. Also very plausible that they would have the footage. It's almost at this point implausible they wouldn't. Right. Yes. And so Hussein Al-Bukhedi is a Yemeni journalist who's based in Sana 'a. And if you were watching the Friday show, we played a kind of extended section of his interview with Al Jazeera. I was like, this guy's good. This guy's sharp. So I reached out to him and did a fairly long interview that we can play for you guys here.

41:05Emily Jashinsky:Sounds good. Let's get to it. Clashes continue in Yemen between Ansar Allah and the Saudi-backed forces that are their proxies serving in the region with Ansar Allah continuing to strike Saudi oil infrastructure and Saudi continuing to launch airstrikes against Yemen. Joining us now is Yemeni journalist Hussein Al-Bukhidi to discuss the latest on the back and forth here. Hussein, it's a real privilege to have you here. Thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thank you for having me on your show. Yeah, you got it. So let's start with the predicament that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has found himself in.

41:47If you were, let's say, advising, obviously you're a journalist, you're not an advisor to Crown Prince MBS, but if you were advising the Crown Prince at this point, what to do at this moment. What do you think your suggestion would be, given the kind of state of play of the conflict now? I think my advice to him, it was before they broke the truce that was signed in 2022. They have targeted Sana 'a Airport two months ago because what Mohammed bin Salman have thought, if they let that civilian aircraft will land, It could damage the reputation of Saudi Arabia as the leader of the coalition against Yemen and the coalition war.

42:37So I will advise him to ignore that. That's fine. Because now what's happening is the entire Saudi is under attack. So I will advise him not to break the ceasefire. Because I'm sure that the other side is waiting for you to break the ceasefire. And that's exactly what happened. He thought that air flight will damage their image. But now we see that the attack has come all across Saudi Arabia. And I will advise him as well that demand of Ansarullah or the Yemeni armed forces in Sana 'a is simple. It was simple before the Saudi broke the truce. It was to stop and lift the blockade against Yemen, open Sana 'a airport.

43:25pay the salaries of Yemeni from gas and oil revenue that's under the control of Saudi Arabia. I mean, Saudi Arabia doesn't need that gas and oil revenue. They have 12 billion barrel a day. So it will be like things like that. There is no need to continue interference in Yemen because we have seen what's happening since 2015, is the first time in history that Saudi Arabia and their oil infrastructure has come and been under attack. So is it your understanding from your sources in Ansar Allah that if Saudi Arabia would end its blockade and end the war against Yemen, that Ansar Allah would end its attacks on Saudi Arabia?

44:13Is it that simple? And what is the next step after that? To be honest with you, now it's not that simple. The demand of today is different than the demand of yesterday. The demand of today is different than the demand before two months, before they struck the airport. Because it will be silly that you now have the upper hand. You have almost limited Saudi air cover for their backed forces in Yemen. This is one of the reasons why Yemeni armed forces here in Sana 'a are advancing, because they've been targeting the military bases in south of Saudi Arabia, the largest two air base in Hamish Mushay, King Khaled Air Base, and as well King Fahd Air Base in Al-Tayb.

44:55And as well, they have anti-aircraft missile that actually has affected the Saudi ability. So now the demand of Yemen actually is a total withdrawal from Yemen, from the Saudi, to stop any fund to any groups inside Yemen, to stop interfering in Yemen, and as well lifting the blockade and allowing flight and a full lift of the blockade on Hodeidah port, because Hodeidah port only received some ship, but they are forced to go first to Djibouti, and they stay there for one to four months, as they say, for search. And this actually affects Yemenis, and only bulk carrier or bulk ship that comes to Hodeidah.

45:42The rest are forced to go to Aden, which is under control of the Saudi. So now the demand are actually different because if Ansar al-Dahouti will come back to the same demand that they were put in 2022, which were simple, as one of them that you mentioned, lifting the Blue Cape, more flight to Sana 'a Airport to pay the salary from Yemen revenue. But now if we go back to this same demand as 2022 or 2023 when we had that so-called roadmap, agreement, this means we will start, like, we will go back to the beginning. There is no guarantee. Saudi will use that as they used from 2022 to build up army bases, to build up airport across Yemen, to build up their backed forces.

46:32So now I'm sure it's different. And we have seen the latest attack against Saudi Arabia just in the last maybe 10 hours ago. They have launched attack against Jeddah, Yambou, Abha, Khamis Mushayt, Najran, Jayzan, Asir, and this is the first time since the beginning of the aggression against Yemen in 2015 that Yemen has launched a large-scale attack. Of course, there is no official statement at this point from Yemen, but there is no one attacking Saudi Arabia, only the Yemenis. Right. I wanted to put up a post of yours from I believe earlier today or yesterday where you shared some video that was going around of battle in Al-Jaf, but you made a point that I wanted you to unpack a little bit for us.

47:16You wrote here a footage released by the Yemeni army showing the attacks against Saudi-backed forces in Al Jaf province, North Yemen. You can see clearly how Saudi mercenaries keep wandering in the desert so that Saudi media will show that as an advance and control of Al Jaf. They're just a sitting duck for Yemeni fighters. Can you unpack for people what you mean by that, what you're seeing kind of on the ground, and what that says more broadly about Saudi Arabia's ability both to project power and also to defend itself. Yeah. I mean, if you say this clearly in this video, you see like armored vehicles and Toyota pickup vehicles.

48:01They go like from the left to the right and they keep wandering in that area. regarding Al-Jauf is at the border of Saudi Arabia, north of Yemen. Between Sa'dah, north of Yemen, and as well, Hadramaut, northeast Yemen. This Al-Jauf is almost the entire area is a desert. Sana 'a government has liberated and has control of the east of Al-Jauf. This east of Al-Jauf is, I mean, Al-Jauf has only 500 ,000 civilians. almost all of them, they are in the east, in the west of, sorry, in the west area of Al-Jawf, just maybe 30 % of the side of Al-Jawf. The rest is a desert. There is nothing there. So what the Saudi do?

48:42They bring troops either from Ma 'arib south of Al-Jawf or from Saudi Arabia in the north, and they just keep driving in the desert. I mean, you can drive there maybe for, maybe 50 kilometers or more, or 100 kilometers. You will find anything. They drive there and And they show in their media that we are advancing and this is Al Jauf. Or they will find a small hill or a small mountain that people will notice in Al Jauf to show that they are in that area. And this is only to take footage. But still Yemeni armed forces are in control of the major mountain that's maybe in the east of Al Jauf, which oversees the desert.

49:21And you can see now in that video how Yemeni armed forces have been targeting those troops troops with artillery shell with with guns with drones and with the ballistic missiles so saudi just because to cover the the failure that was in the west coast and as well to get to try to recruit more yemenis and more mercenaries because when they see those type of videos but from the eye of the saudi media they will see those hundreds of trucks that you saw in that video going forward and no one in front of them. And as soon as they come under attack, they're not going to show that. They will cut it. And they do even act.

50:02They just go to an open area and just keep shooting at a hill or at a rock or a small mountain. And there is no one there. I mean, you cannot live there to have a base there, either for us or for them. You need an area to have water, to have water, to have water supply, or at least to have a city or a nearby village where you have shops. So this is actually the shows. This video actually shows the thing that I have been explaining to many outside the media. And thanks God that the video has came today. And how does that compare to what you saw on the West Coast or what the advancing Ansar Allah forces saw on the West Coast of Yemen when they got there?

50:39There were reports that upwards of, say, four out of five of the mercenaries who were supposed to be in the Saudi-backed coalition weren't even there, were kind of ghost soldiers where the commanders were just pocketing the money and telling their commanders that, oh yeah, we have 1 ,000 men under our command when in fact they might have, say, 200 men. How significant of a phenomenon has that been? Now, to be honest with you, this is not the case, but we've seen that this report has been released sometimes by international media. I believe because Saudi reputation was really, really damaged and their back force in Yemen because of that.

51:24So I can say that this is actually the information that's released by the Saudi. They want to show that it's not their failure, that those commander were lying. But let me make it sure that all the soldiers and all the commanders in there, especially Tariq Saleh, they were loyal to the United Arab Emirates. And the United Arab Emirates, they were better than the Saudi in giving equipment to their back forces in Yemen. and they were when they were building the bases they were building the bases like from like from a to z uh yeah like uh operational room with you know satellite internet and all that thing and some footage have shown that uh was released in the last uh few days but and we've seen that united arab emirate because that area was important to them they have built in the area that uh was was controlled in the west coast and babel mandap is a small area is about maybe the the coastal area could be maybe 2400 kilometers but if we uh this without the mountains all of the area is 4 400 but the area of the coast it could be only 2500 kilometer square kilometer just imagine in mocha there's a huge airport building mocha they say for civilians i mean i said okay i could i I could understand that because it's a city.

52:40But south of Moka, between Moka and Bab el-Mandeb, just inside the coast of Yemen, there is another large airport that was built by United Arab Emirates and large air base in that area, just 20 kilometers south of Moka. And as well in Mewan Island, another airport was built. In Zugar Island, in the Red Sea, just off the coast of Moka, another airport was built. And this Zugar Island is inhabited. So, so just imagine this infrastructure that was built and they recruited tens, hundreds of thousands of soldiers. And, and, and, and, and just now they are, what they are saying that is because of this, that there were names of soldiers that they were not there.

53:26This is actually not true. So the road between Mocha to Bab al-Manda was full during the withdrawal, was full of trucks, armored vehicles for several kilometers. And Ansar Allah let them, they left the road south of Mocha open because they don't want, you know, as Yemeni to kill each other. They always, before they take any city, they always leave a road open. So when they advance from the north of Mocha, the south of Mocha road, and I have published like a map. road on it where Yemeni armed forces at before the fall of of of mocha because they know if you leave for your enemy road when he feel the danger because he's fighting for the Saudis not for the liberation of Yemen he will just rather to to go and take that weapons and sell it like they did when they arrived in Aden and the coast of near Aden they were selling all the weapons or the instead of fighting and get killed because their commander was the first one to run away.

54:29And as well, they have been saying that Ansarullah, like, have, with AI, used the voice of Tariq Saleh and sent, like, to their fighter to withdraw and all that. No, it's all. The thing is that now Yemeni army, because we have limited and obstructed the Saudi air force, 90 % of the strength of the Saudi-backed forces was this, was the Saudi cover and air force. Because every area they have controlled since 2015, Saudi used to use carpet bombing to that area. Either civilian area or mountain or a hill or a coast. That's why they advanced to Hodeidah. But because that does not now exist because of the attack from Yemen against their main airbase in South and Central Saudi Arabia.

55:18Yemeni have as well missiles. I'm sure that we can hear in the coming days that Yemeni will shoot one or two of Saudi fighter jets. We remember that the United States had admitted that Yemeni air missiles, they were about to shoot down F-35. And as well, they were about to shoot F-16. There was like three or five fighters from the United States, and Yemeni had launched missiles against them. They had like to maneuver. And because they have maneuvered on the sky of Hodeidah to avoid dozens of missiles that were launched, they were about to run of fuel. So the United States has to send another refuel plane.

55:55And they have said that, and they have as well given the leader of that group of the fighter jets, like they gave him, I don't know, like a star or like to recognize what he did. Just imagine this with the United States, what Yemeni are doing now with the Saudi. and as well the attack against Saudi Arabia, against Aramco, it prevents as well Saudi to launch the same attack and airstrike they used to launch. If there is any war in one area in Yemen, Saudi used to launch 300 to 500 airstrikes in one day if they advance in an area. Now they launch in the entire Yemen, maybe on a day, maybe 100, 150 airstrikes across Yemen.

56:35You can just imagine the amount that we have reduced those airstrikes. And one of the reasons, because Saudi knows if they will try maybe to conduct the same amount of airstrike, like hundreds a day on MOCA, they know that Yemen at that point will launch hundreds of missiles against all Saudi oil infrastructure and airport and airport. So Yemeni, even when we are fighting to liberate our country, when we are fighting to lift the blockade against Yemen, when we do all that, we still give the Saudi a chance. We still are not attacking everything in Saudi Arabia. Just to let them think, if you do more, we will do as well more.

57:18Right. So you mentioned that the airport was struck in July by Saudi Arabia, which really precipitated this entire situation. But the Ansarallah response could have been much smaller. A decision was made to go on the offensive. From your reporting, what do you understand about how long this plan has been in the works and why they decided to launch this significant offensive at this moment rather than any other moment? Yeah. If you see the attack against Saudi response to the Saudi targeting Sana 'a airport and breaking the ceasefire, We consider that as a cancellation of the truce. What they did in Yemen, they target at the airport.

58:13Here, I mean, I was angry. The people here were angry. They said they target Sana 'an, they target airport. You should target Riyadh and Riyadh airport. But Yemen will still consider it. They don't want war with Saudi Arabia. They just want our country to be liberated. They focus on the blockade. They have stopped Saudi ship and declared not to allow Saudi ship to go through the Red Sea. But this ground attack, they came after what? Because Saudi Arabia, after they took control of all the bases, especially in Mokad, which was under the control of the United Arab Emirates, they had been sending more weapons and more training and all type of weapons and communication system.

58:53like they're trying to make that area like like make it more stronger and as soon as the Saudi broke the ceasefire and we formed the blockade in the sea uh Saudi have targeted Hodeidah port we didn't target Yamba before we haven't done that Saudi is the one in in retaliation of our attack against ship they have a target uh Hodeidah port and then after that we expanded and target Yambou. So what happened in Yemen, on the ground, Yemeni has not launched any missile or any single shot against any Saudi-backed forces in the area. But what the Saudi did, the Saudi in the last two months, they have expanded their fund and their money and their weapons that's been sent to areas under the Saudi-backed force control maybe four times more.

59:49Why? Because they know they cannot face Sana 'a army. So they they they sent to those group. That's why Sana 'a was kind of a dilemma. If we don't attack and even if you see in the media that belong to this Saudi backed forces, they will show in footage. Drone footage attacking position of Yemeni armed forces versus as they call them Ansarullah. They were artillery shell and bombing in many areas in Moka and even before the fight start in Marib and in Job and they were speaking about that in their media but Yemeni were kind of in a dilemma here in Sana 'a if we we don't want to fight with the Yemenis but Saudi now when they are ready when they are setting the plan they're gonna attack us at one point and as well they broke the ceasefire by targeting Sana 'a airport and those troops in Yemen considered as a part of the Saudi-led coalition we can attack them and target them without like what I explained to you, that the troops coming from Saudi and reinforcement.

1:00:54As soon as Saudi target the airport, we have the right to target Saudi and as well the back forces in Yemen. So Yemen took the decision to launch missiles against those groups and those, they even attacked trucks that were coming from the Saudi border toward Marib and toward Al Jauf. And they targeted them in the road. and they show footage of that. So we had to do that. And although we have the right because there is no more truth, but we delayed that action just to respect, not to have to kill each other and this is exactly what the Saudi want. That's why I think it will be more escalation from Saudi.

1:01:37Here in Yemen, they're ready. Saudi will stop and stop interfering in Yemen. It will be simple. And there is one more important point. Before 2002, 2022, before Yemeni Saudi-backed forces were just in Nihim Mountain, just east of Sana 'a. Yemeni, before doing that major attack that reached the outskirts of Ma 'rib before 2022, they have sent an initiative to Al-Irada, which is the leader of the Saudi-backed forces and the governor of Ma 'rib. They said, look, we do want to attack you. We don't want to target you, but you can keep your weapons. You can say the governor, you can stay in control of the area that you are in.

1:02:21But stop attacking us because they were close to Sanaa. We want to fight the Saudi. Let us fight with the Saudi face to face. And then after that, we will talk with each other. If we didn't agree, you still have your weapons and I still have my weapons. You still have your position, your land, and I still have my. It's not that we can we can force him through negotiation. He refused that. What happened? Yemeni armed forces have declared that that was at war before the truth. An operation called Al-Bunyan al-Marsus. I don't know how to translate it in English. So, and they took, they advanced, till they reached the outskirts of Marib.

1:02:58Marib is 14 area district or 14 directory. It contained 14 directory. Yemeni armed forces before 2022, they have liberated. They are in control of 12. What's left is only Mareb city and as well the so-called desert or the Wadi district. Only those two. But all the population and most of the population of that two directory is in Mareb. So it's kind like Moka in the west coast and you have Moka, the city. It's exactly the same like Mareb. Here we are controlled over the west coast and then we came around the Mocha and then it took only a few minutes. It's exactly with Marib. We are in control of most of the populated and most important area and mountains around Marib is only the city that's left.

1:03:51And I believe that Marib will be exactly like Marib, like Mocha, and it could be as well easier because the fighters that they are in Marib, they are not from Marib. They are not from the tribal areas. either that 12 directors in the hand of or the other two most of them they are from outside and they belong to the muslim brotherhood because the muslim brotherhood and saudi-backed forces has been defeated from many areas from yemen they all went there even those who had run away from from mocha they can be there so either the people in marif they are not happy with that and i'm talking about married prophets not married city was still under the control of the saudi-backed All the Maori people there, they are not happy with that because they consider them as foreign fighters.

1:04:39You come to my city to fight because they pay you. That's why I think at one point that Maori people will be easy and they will run away exactly as they did before. As long as there is no cover from Saudi Arabia by airstrike, even though Saudi Arabia is trying, but we determined that or kind of stop them back. I don't think they will be, the entire region will be, Yemen will be liberated and the same initiative that was before the same initiative has been put just weeks ago before entering MUCA or liberating the coast, it was, this initiative was put to Marib and to MUCA and to, two months ago, before the fight starts, look what Sana 'a is doing before the fight starts they ask Tarek Saleh and they say, keep your weapons stay in your area Don't hand us any weapons.

1:05:30Let us fight with the Saudi face to face. Don't stab us in the back. We don't want to kill Yemeni to kill Yemeni. Will you agree for that? He said, no, I am with the Saudi-led coalition. I will do whatever they say. And he started receiving weapons. This was after the attack against the airport. And he didn't stop receiving weapons and like target with those drones that they have. so I think at that point Yemen has decided because if we didn't do so this means that Saudi has one point and Saudi were waiting for the United States to end the war with Iran or to have a truce they will come to us and Saudi was waiting for the United States and for Trump because what those United States and the Zionists have been doing they've been singling out the axis of resistance country by country start with Gaza and then when they're done with Gaza we remember Hezbollah was launching missiles against israel but israel response was limited because they were busy with gaza as soon as they finished with gaza i mean the resistance still exists but i mean yeah you know what i mean they went to hezbollah and focus all the attacking hezbollah as soon as they finished was syria through the terrorist the one that julani he was like on the list for 10 million and now he's the president and when they end with surya they went to iran just imagine iran has it launched even Iran has launched attack as in support of Gaza, let's say that Israel think that okay, like Yemen did.

1:06:56So it was coming to Yemen. That's why Yemen, even though Saudi has broke the ceasefire, Yemen have decided the best way to defense is to attack. If Saudi Arabia doesn't end this war, do they face any risks when it comes to their own territory? Because they don't seem to be able to defend anything at this point. Yeah, I mean, I spoke with this in an interview yesterday, and it's done viral in YouTube. It was like an Arabic channel. And because I don't represent Ansarullah officially, that's why I can speak my mind more. But what I think, the Yemeni have a different stage against the Saudis. First of all, we said blockade against blockade.

1:07:51Our airport against our airport. We still now, we are not targeting civilian airports in Saudi Arabia. If they target Sana 'a airport, we will target them. We are not targeting

1:08:04civilian port. Only when they target Hodeida. But now, we focus on the air bases of the Saudi and the Zul-U 'aram facility and even when we target Aramco facility maybe two weeks ago in south of Saudi Arabia. Why we did that? Saudi has been launching strikes against Yemen and here in Yemen, Yemeni armed forces haven't announced any of the strikes because they were in the battlefield. They said, okay, they are not affecting our advance even when they were advancing on Mokka. We will ignore it. We don't want to make it all out war. What the Saudi did, they have targeted a prison in Al Jove, killing dozens, including women and children, and they targeted during the visiting hour.

1:08:49That's why when Yemen have targeted Aramco facility, just imagine, Saudi has launched 120 airstrikes at that time in two days. Yemeni didn't attack. But when they launched attack against the prison, Yemeni had to take a stand. Otherwise, I mean, people here may be will rise up against him. I mean, they target Aramco in Jayzan, in Najran, and in Asir, in Abha, and in Najran. So this is like a stage. If you target our civilians, we're not going to target your civilians and cities. We will target Aramco. And the second stage, I mean, it will be all Aramco across Saudi Arabia. Because our blood is not, is more important to us than the Saudi oil.

1:09:36Saudi that was at the beginning Saudi thought that they could shed the Yemeni blood and another stage will come it's like to target all their airports and ports doesn't matter civilian or military and as well the water plant I believe that me if I was the commander of the Yemeni armed force I will have this this plan I mean if we see that there is a great aggression against Yemen or that the Saudi like let's say winning and things like that and destroying Yemen infrastructure as they did in the last 10 years in 2015, we will exactly target. But that we will leave it at the end because we don't want to affect civilians in Saudi Arabia.

1:10:15I mean, that they will die from thirst. So, but about the border, Yemeni still have this solution. But if they enter Najran and Jayzan and Asir, this means we will not come out of it. Even if the Saudi backed of it and even if they say we will drop from all Yemen, we will stop what you want, any demand you want, we will agree. What we will say that time if I was the commander of InshaAllah or the Emirate. I will say the command of the demand of today is not like the demand of yesterday. The demand of today is not like the demand of after Mokah. because Yemenis, maybe all of them, let's say 99 % of Yemenis, still consider Najran and Jayzan and Asir as a province that belonged to Yemen.

1:11:07And they were taken by the Saudi in the 30s or the 20s from our imam at that time, he's like the king. They took it because they got support from the United Kingdom when the United Kingdom has bombed Hodeidah and they had mercenary and Yemenis like Saudi have now. and Hodeidah was the only lifeline for Yemen and at that time they had an agreement that the United Kingdom and the mercenaries would withdraw from areas in Hodeidah and would stop bombing Hodeidah and Yemen would give those two provinces to Saudi Arabia but they signed an agreement called Al-Taif Al-Taif agreement is the same name the agreement that signed for the Lebanese in Saudi I don't know why they call it all Al-Taif I mean, it looks like that we are short of names.

1:11:54So, yeah. So, and in that agreement, that the Saudi will, and the agreement, why Imam did the agreement? Because at that time he was weak. But he did an agreement that that agreement still say that this is our land. And this means that if by one, he give like to any president in the future or any king, if Yemen at one point will be strong, they can take it and they have the right to take it. because he knows the Saudi will not fulfill the agreement. And in that agreement, Yemeni could go to Saudi Arabia using their ID. They don't need a visa. He will treat Yemeni as he treated the Saudis. Look, look, the imam at that time, he had a vision.

1:12:38He knows Saudi, he knows the oil, the people. And as well, Saudi Arabia will not interfere in Yemeni business, will not attack Yemen, will not target Yemen, will not support any group and they will not even try to make other country or threaten us through other country this the agreement was so saudi have actually since the the republic has raised up in yemen in 1962 the revolution against imam saudi arabia has been interfering in yemen saudi arabia as well lately in the last maybe 30 40 years has been treating yemenis they're really bad. So, and on the top of that, they have launched a coalition war and aggression against Yemen, launching more than 300 ,000 airstrikes, declaring that coalition from Washington to the Saudi ambassador, Al-Jubair, is the first war you declared against your neighbor from another country.

1:13:37Killing directly by airstrike maybe 20 ,000 Yemeni civilians, and about 400, between 300 to 400 ,000 Yemenis civilians have died because of the blockade. Severe malnutrition, malnutrition, lack of water, preventable diseases that the United Nations have saved, cholera, malaria. So all that, that's why Yemen, if you see they're always focusing on the blockade, the blockade is killing more Yemenis and the closure of the airport than the direct airstripe. So that's why the Saudi border, that Yemen will go inside those area, I'm sure they will not withdraw. Why? Because if they withdraw, they will bear the shame for all our generation, maybe till the judgment day.

1:14:27That look, at one point we were strong and that agreement that was signed and now is in our favor that we can say the Saudi that they have broken and now you have gone inside and you controlled and you are stronger and you have left it. but this actually will be the last solution and this shows you how good our government here and our leadership. What we are asking now, the Saudi, we are not asking them to withdraw from Najran and Jayzran and Asir. We are asking them to withdraw from Yemen, to stop killing Yemenis and we will have peace with them. And Yemeni here in Samar, especially our leader, Sayyid Abdulmalik, if he sign an agreement, even with the devil, like with the United States, when we stop attacking the United States and they stopped attacking us.

1:15:13It wasn't like there was an agreement, but it was Yemen demand, stop attacking us and we will stop attacking you. Of course, Trump has made it like that he won. He said at the beginning when he launched attack, he said, I will not stop unless they stop targeting our ship and our allies' ship. But when we have agreed not to target each other, he said, I defeated the Houthi, they can beg into me to stop and we stopped, we're going to stop targeting them and they will stop targeting our ship. He hasn't mentioned about their allies. And whose other allies is Israel. So look, even with that, we have respected that.

1:15:50It's in our religion. We know that if you lie or if you don't respect an agreement, God will punish you. How can I punish you? He'll make you lose the next battle. And even with the attack against Iran, with the attack against Iran and Yemen has not, and they always say Yemen is like linked and they are receiving command from Iran. I mean, Yemen could actually block the Red Sea when Iran was under attack in the 12 days of war or as well now. But they waited till Saudi has broke that ceasefire. And what's the funny thing, I mean, I had many interviews in the last two days. And the first question, why you are targeting Saudi ships as soon as you seized the Babylonian Debs trade?

1:16:36they totally forgot that Yemen has a target Saudi oil tanker two months ago even before they reached the coast of Bab el-Mandeb Yemen has been targeting Israeli ships through the genocide so we do need to be at the coast to block the Red Sea we were blocking the Red Sea we were targeting ship in far north of the Red Sea in the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea so but the main thing about controlling that area is to liberate yemen and this actually that the largest so they say why don't you target american ship now why don't you target israeli ship at this point but look look hypocrite are those uh the media outlet when we were targeting israel and united states we only targeted and british only when they launched the prosperity garden when we targeting those ship to help our brother and sister in Gaza to stop the genocide, to do something that we can and demand them to stop the killing.

1:17:36All these countries, they will tell us why and they condemn us. And they say as a piracy, why are we targeting those ships in the sea? But now when we are targeted, not targeted, they say, why? Why don't you target and let American ship or to go through, through, through, through. This actually show you who we are fighting. Just one final thing, and maybe it's going to make you laugh. During the war, before the truth, 2022, when Yemen was launched an attack against United Arab Emirates, or against United Arab Emirates-backed forces in south of Yemen, at that time, the disagreement between Saudi and United Arab Emirates started to show up.

1:18:16When you turn United Arab Emirates and their backed forces in Yemen, Saudi and the Saudi-backed forces in Marib and other areas, they were celebrating that. when we were targeting Saudi Arabia and targeting Saudi-backed forces in Yemen United Arab Emirates backed forces and United Arab Emirates themselves they were celebrating that but when we target the Zionist ship and we were fighting the prosperity guardian for the Palestinian people to lift the attack to lift the blockade against Palestine to help the Palestinian people and we were the only country to do so targeting ships and United States battleships since World War II all those countries were against us All these backed forces will condemn us.

1:18:56It's all about Zion's state of Israel. If you are good with them, no one will attack you. You will be fine. Like United Arab Emirates or like Saudi. So show you, show everyone who's watching who we are fighting. It's okay for United Arab Emirates and their backed forces that we kill other Yemeni that's loyal to Saudi or kill Saudi. And the opposite as well. For those side to kill those side. But when we try to stop the genocide, side and attack Israel, they're all against that. I also wanted to ask you before you go about the 73 UN aid workers that have been detained by Ansar Allah. My understanding is that as a result, humanitarian, access to humanitarian aid has gone significantly down.

1:19:44You know, the UN and other aid agencies are nervous about, you know, sending aid workers in. Why are they still detained? It's not only, obviously, you know, an international incident, but also just from an ethical perspective, why? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I know. I mean, I've been speaking to Sarul and I said, if there's anyone like who you don't have any, like a solid proof that he's like was spying or something like that, you should you should release him because to be honest, it just is damaging the reputation more than solving our cause to liberate Yemen. But if you look, why did that happen?

1:20:25I mean, it's not that I'm giving like excuse of our government here, but it happened after the attack that have killed our entire government. Right. And the area that the aid worker used to work is near that area where it was targeted. It was like a secret meeting and things like that. And just imagine. So there is this kind of reason. And it's not only those UN workers. They have arrested other people in that neighborhood. So there is still people. I mean, my neighbor, someone I know, he's with Ansarullah he even hash me as we say he's linked to the Prophet Muhammad and he's a good friend of mine his brother he was arrested and he's considered like from Ansarullah and others so when it comes to security of Yemen they don't care are you with the international, are you working with this agency But what I'm asking them, and I did as well before, like when I met some of them, just if there is any process, make it quick.

1:21:40Don't delay it. But to be honest with you, I mean, if you see some people think that those international NGO, that it cannot be that one will be like a spy. No, it can't, because United States and the Zionists, they have used everything. We remember that maybe it's something like not related to Yemen, but related to this incident uh is when they assassinated and killed the bill aden the united states had an idea and everybody can search i mean uh can say to anybody who are not in the stone age that you cannot find anything that i can lie and no one can find out bladden what they did they know the area or maybe the house and the neighborhood where bill adenis and they even might have that thinking he lived in maybe in that compound or house but they want to make sure because that area is inside pakistan and to attack and kill someone is not related to Pakistan, it could make, like, be a bad reputation for the Pakistani, even though the Pakistani government, I believe it has always been a Zionist government.

1:22:38The Pakistani people, they are free and good men. So what they did, they sent a doctor with the so-called, like, a support and aid and agency from outside who do vaccination for children, that kind of vaccination to avoid that the kids will be paralyzed. You give it to your one month old or two month old baby. So they use that and they were taking DNA. Because it is by mouth. From all the children in that neighborhood. And Saudi, of course, they have the DNA of Bin Laden from the brother or, you know, they have it. Till they made sure the exact house. And then they target Bin Laden and they killed Bin Laden.

1:23:23What did that entire area, the tribal area, or that city, all the tribesmen in that area, which is north of Pakistan, they have kicked all the agency that gave vaccination to children. And that affected more than 100 ,000 children. It's because of what? It's because the United States wants to take Bin Laden. they have affected the life of hundreds of thousands of children in the tribal area of Pakistan. Because those tribes, as soon as they heard what the United States did, they considered that agency, maybe that agency was working in the tribal area, it had nothing and it was doing a good job.

1:24:06I'm not saying that they are doing it, but this is the United States. They have been using journalists. I mean, so that's why they are cautious, but I'm sure and I hope that they will make the process really quickly. If there is no solid evidence, you shouldn't keep anyone in prison. Yeah, it personally drives me insane when governments use journalists for those purposes. That's the last thing. You're right. All the work of journalists, yeah. Right, right. Well, Hussein, I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. These are certainly interesting times indeed. Yeah, man. You're welcome. Thank you very much for having me and hope to see you soon.

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