In short
U.S.-Iran escalation after U.S. strikes near the Strait of Hormuz; Iran’s retaliatory attacks on U.S. bases (including Erbil/Jordan) and claims of mass-casualty targeting; Trump’s threats to “wipe out” Iran and Congress’ war-powers push to end the conflict. Then: global bond-market turmoil driven by Japan yields rising and oil-price/inflation dynamics. Finally: Massachusetts midterm results, especially Ed Markey defeating Seth Moulton by about 30 points.
Guests (named in transcript)
None. The episode is hosted by Sagar and Crystal (Breaking Points) with additional on-air commentators (e.g., “Ryan,” “Crystal,” “Emily,” “Munga Shatikula,” “Manu Raju” referenced via clips).
Key claims
The exchange has not reduced Iran’s ability to hit ships; U.S. missile-interceptor stocks are being depleted. Trump is “coasting” without a clear endgame, while gas/diesel price shocks are worsening global economic conditions. Central banks respond to oil-supply inflation by slowing demand, deepening the downturn. Markey’s progressive brand and “youth movement” momentum beat Moulton’s late “tough” messaging.
Notable examples
a strike hitting a wedding party; Erbil base on fire; Iranian state-TV claims (5 killed, including a 4-year-old; 63 injured); Reuters-style bond moves (Japan 30-year yield >4%); G20 quote from Scott Bessent; Marathon/Phillips 66/Chevron meeting; diesel cited around $7.45 in California; Markey vs. Moulton margin (~65/35).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBreaking News and Show Highlights
2:10 to 4:00
Krystal and Sagar tease upcoming topics including Iran and the elections.
“This morning we have a slightly above average show that we'll kind of drag in the middle but pick up towards the end.”
Iran's Military Response
4:00 to 6:40
Discussion of U.S. strikes in Iran and Iran's retaliatory attacks on U.S. bases.
“Yeah, breakingpoints.com, we also have a premium version of the newsletter, so you'll be trying that out for a month as well if you go ahead and sign up for a premium subscription.”
The Escalating Conflict
6:40 to 10:00
Analysis of the escalating conflict between the U.S. and Iran, including military strategies and casualties.
“The fear among families of American service members is that Iran claims to have struck a marine base, which does not have a lot of kind of expensive material or other infrastructure.”
Trump's Threats Against Iran
10:00 to 13:00
Discussion of Trump's recent threats towards Iran and implications for U.S. foreign policy.
“Iran still has the capacity to target ships in the Strait of Hormuz.”
Economic Impact of Military Actions
13:00 to 14:00
Exploring how the conflict affects the global economy, oil prices, and domestic politics.
“whispering in his ear that things are getting terrible in Iran and any minute now that maybe the people will overthrow the government there.”
The Political Landscape of the Iran Conflict
14:00 to 21:20
Discussion on the political implications of the Iran conflict and the responses of Congress and the Speaker of the House.
“But, you know, he's got control of the Postal Service, and the Supreme Court told him it's fine to go ahead and grab like a third of the votes that are coming through are supposed to go through the mail.”
Impact of U.S. Actions on Iranian Civilians
21:20 to 23:20
Exploring the consequences of U.S. military actions on civilian life in Iran, including recent attacks on weddings and schools.
“They're they're saying that, you know, now at this point, five people killed, including a four year old child, 63 injured of the 63.”
Schumer's Struggles on Military Policy
23:20 to 26:00
Analysis of Chuck Schumer's responses regarding military actions in Iran and the implications of U.S. foreign policy.
“This was on Morning Joe yesterday, struggling to explain.”
Introduction to Prose Society
28:01 to 28:54
Learn about the Prose Society podcast, its themes, and hosts.
“I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.”
Introduction to Hollywood Handbook
28:55 to 30:44
Hosts Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements share insights about their podcast and guests.
“We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.”
Show all 20 chapters
Global Bond Market Unraveling
30:45 to 33:34
Understanding the recent chaos in global bond markets and rising interest rates.
“interest rates is when they go up the charts get rendered in green so you're like oh this is great This is going great for us.”
Impact of Oil Prices on Economy
33:35 to 36:02
Exploring how rising oil prices affect global economies and inflation.
“Scott Besant, which one of his delightful quotes, I don't think we are in any kind of a dire situation.”
Central Bank Responses to Inflation
36:03 to 38:00
Discussion on how central banks are responding to inflation driven by oil prices.
“And so then the central banks are going to try to respond by trying to crush what they call demand destruction.”
Trump's Energy Policies and Challenges
38:01 to 40:45
Analysis of Trump's attempts to manage energy prices and the challenges ahead.
“It's crazy because just this time last year, Trump was pushing for Kevin Warsh specifically to go into the Fed and take interest rates down.”
Consequences of Rising Diesel Prices
40:46 to 42:01
Examining the impact of rising diesel prices on agriculture and local economies.
“because diesel is what goes into, and so tractors, the trucks, like major equipment, Everything.”
Venezuelan Oil and U.S. Energy Policy
42:01 to 43:42
Discussion on the impracticality of using Venezuelan oil to address U.S. energy needs.
“He also said that he's going to top off the Strategic Petroleum Reserve with Venezuelan oil.”
Primary Results and Political Analysis
48:06 to 56:00
Analysis of the Democratic Senate primary results in Massachusetts.
“Representative Seth Moulton looks like 65 to 35, roughly, the margin of victory for Ed Markey, about 30 points.”
Primary Elections and Notable Candidates
56:00 to 1:02:20
Discussion on the outcomes of various primary elections and the performance of candidates.
“Tram Wynn ended up getting this kind of progressive support through these pro these women's groups.”
Interview with Dr. Karishma Manzor
1:06:06 to 1:10:01
Dr. Manzor discusses her campaign for Senate, her background, and key issues.
“is running for the United States Senate in what has been a sleepy race from a national perspective.”
Candidate Karishma Manzor's Campaign Insights
1:10:01 to 1:20:50
Learn about Karishma Manzor's personal story and campaign strategy in New Hampshire.
“presidential primary, and people have a lot of respect for Bernie still here in New Hampshire.”
Transcript
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3:05Emily Jashinsky:Can we promise that? I don't know that we can promise that. Is FCC watching this? They got the stopwatch out. Consumer protection. Well, the CFPB is basically gone, so we should be fine on that front. And if you don't do it, CalShe every single day is like DMing us, emailing us, texting us. Like they don't take no for an answer. Don't make us do CalShe. We have a sort of internal running. I don't know that it's a competition, but over how many people Ryan can get to sign up on a daily basis. Don't let me lose this. That's what this is really about at the end of the day, because Ryan is the best pitchman we have.
3:43Emily Jashinsky:And so Ryan today is trying to outdo his own record, hence this pitch. And I hope that one of these pitches landed. I think it did. Just a whole blizzard of pitches. They always do. You get the job done. It actually is good. Yeah, it is. I don't feel bad about trying to snow you guys. Yeah, breakingpoints.com, we also have a premium version of the newsletter, so you'll be trying that out for a month as well if you go ahead and sign up for a premium subscription. Nothing to lose with your chains. Nothing to lose with your chains. please go ahead and sign up for a month trial ryan i i'm going to say we're doing 110 percent from the beginning of the show to the end of the show because huge huge news starting with iran and we'll be talking about the japanese bond situation we'll be talking about the midterm elections uh massachusetts results yesterday hilarious margin of victory for ed markey yeah very funny should we keep it well it's a teaser we'll tell you the margin of victory is hilarious but we won't tell you exactly what it is, man.
4:41Emily Jashinsky:Tough stuff for Seth Moulton. Thomas Massey called out Epstein names. He's got a new bill. He's got a new bill. He called Epstein names on the House floor yesterday. We have video of that. It's Mar Ben-Gavir outdoing It's Mar Ben-Gavir. Truly a video that must be seen to be believed that he posted. And Elon Musk speaking at the G20 yesterday about other catastrophic ramifications of AI we can expect coming down the pike in just a year or so. Yes. So let's start with Iran. Yesterday, we can put up A4 to begin with here. Yesterday around noon, the U.S. started striking positions on the south of Iran, which would be the north side of the Strait of Hormuz.
5:26that was in retaliation they said for a well actually they said it was kind of an effort to preempt Iran which they said was going to launch missiles into the Strait of Hormuz that would drop you know more mines to try to block shipping from going in and out if you can put up A4B This is roughly the site of a number of these strikes. One of these strikes, the one furthest to the southeast there, hit a wedding party. And we can get into that more because Iran then responded with a rather furious attack on U.S. bases in Jordan. and in particular Erbil, if we can put up A0 here, as well as elsewhere around the region, you saw the U.S.
6:26expending kind of huge numbers of ballistic missile interceptors, and particularly in Erbil, we can put up A1 here as well, in Erbil, not get, this is Jordan, but in Erbil, the base up there is on fire. So this is Jordan. You see a strike there. The fear among families of American service members is that Iran claims to have struck a marine base, which does not have a lot of kind of expensive material or other infrastructure. And so because it's only people, therefore doesn't have much in the way of ballistic missile defense. And so Iran was claiming that it had produced some type of mass casualty event.
7:15There were some reports of medevacs. We don't know yet if there were actually casualties. If you've noticed in the way that Iran has been carrying out its responses, they've been targeting primarily, you know, U.S. kind of satellites, helicopters, planes inside warehouses. is the NSA Bahrain, you know, where the Fifth Fleet is, the base there. A lot of those bases have been evacuated. Iran was targeting the military infrastructure. A couple times they have said that they have deliberately targeted personnel, and this was one of them. And they say that they did it in response to the U.S. bombing this wedding party.
7:58The other time that they said we targeted personnel, and that time they did kill several American service members, was in response, if you remember, when the U.S. bombed an Iranian dormitory that was housing a bunch of like 18-year-old recruits and killed a lot of them in their sleep. So Iran said, okay, we are now, because they don't believe that there's a strategic purpose in killing three service members. but it as a deterrent for the U.S. attacking either Iranian civilians or like you know sleeping 18 year olds in a dormitory they do it so you know Pete Hegseth got rid of almost the entire kind of civilian protection unit very early on there's been some a lot of good reporting on this and has said, like, it is not a concern of his, right?
8:57This is war. Bad things happen in war. Too bad. You know, suck it up. But he is not the one that has to then bear the consequences of that. So when he bombs a wedding party, it's these Marines in Jordan who had nothing to do with it, who now all of a sudden are just getting hit in retaliation for it. uh and so this is basically the first exchange since you know in the past month
9:26Emily Jashinsky:since reports indicated how severe our shortage was right right and so think about what happened we are trying to keep shipping in the southern part of the Strait of Hormuz flowing Iran was let's say they were going to send some mines in there so we then bomb a bunch of locations along the Strait of Hormuz. They then launch a bunch of ballistic missiles at a lot of military position, U.S. military positions around the region. We expend a whole bunch of ballistic missile interceptors. And now here we are, it's Wednesday. Iran still has the capacity to target ships in the Strait of Hormuz. Hopefully, you know, the casualties were not significant.
10:11But we're right back to where we were, except significantly fewer ballistic missile interceptors on the part of the U.S., despite our dwindling stocks.
10:20Emily Jashinsky:And no quote-unquote progress towards the end of what this war is supposed to be. What were we trying to do? Right. Well, yeah. And even saying what this war is supposed to be is ridiculous because they never had a clear indication of what this war was supposed to be. Speaking of which, Donald Trump yesterday afternoon threatened to wipe out Iran once again. Let's take a listen to A2 here. Just before they completed this construction, that's when these strikes took place. The president says the USS George Washington, that new aircraft carrier that arrived in theater last week, is loaded to the gills with ammunition.
10:50And he indicated that they have enough to continue this fight against Iran, again, if the Iranians do decide to respond. As for any sort of possible agreement with the Iranians, but again, the latest information that we have, John, U.S. strikes are ongoing against Iran, hitting the southwestern part of the country. And the president once again, in a call with Fox News, warning the Iranian regime, if they respond to these strikes against the southwestern part of Iran, that they will be hit much harder. And again, he goes on to say if this goes for a third time, they will be wiped out as a country.
11:24He described the Iranians as crazy and stupid. And again, the region is waiting to see if there will be an Iranian response already in Iranian state media. They are threatening retaliation against U.S. forces in the region.
11:35Emily Jashinsky:We also have a true social post from Trump last night. He said,
12:05Emily Jashinsky:which has maintained power since Trump, obviously, and the Israelis took out the Ayatollah all the way back on the end of February. Still, here we are in, what, September now, and the calls for the Iranians to overthrow their government, which has not happened in all of these months. If anything, the indication that we've gotten, Ryan, is that the Iranian solidarity with each other for their country against the United States has grown, and that we're not on the cusp of another revolution. Right. But I remember we were talking about this maybe a month ago or so. And we're like, the only thing that might explain what Trump is doing here is that he knows he can't win.
12:49He refuses to lose. And he's going to do what he's done his entire life, which is just live another day and just see what happens. And I think the Israelis and some other folks are whispering in his ear that things are getting terrible in Iran and any minute now that maybe the people will overthrow the government there. And so in his mind, better to take a 1 % chance at success down the road than 100 % success of a humiliating capitulation right now.
13:25Emily Jashinsky:Or just don't even put yourself in a situation where you have a capitulation by starting the war. But he did it. Yeah. But he can't go back and undo that. And so then the only price to pay there is by American service members who are in the region and by the American people who are now Brent crude pushing above$94 as we speak. So up substantially since he started this new round of conflict. Diesel in the$6 plus range. And then everybody in the global economy, which we're going to talk about in a minute. So those people will suffer. But he's fine. And Republicans. will suffer. But, you know, he's got control of the Postal Service, and the Supreme Court told him it's fine to go ahead and grab like a third of the votes that are coming through are supposed to go through the mail.
14:14And the Supreme Court's going to let him do that. So maybe he thinks, all right, I'll pull a couple rabbits out of this hat. One, I will just shut down mail-in voting by my control over the Postal Service, which he has because Democrats were too stupid and cowardly to get rid of the Trump people who ran the Postal Service during the Biden years. And the Supreme Court was like, yeah, sure, go for that. And he thinks maybe they'll overthrow the government. Who knows? And if they don't, who cares?
14:40Emily Jashinsky:Well, in that Truth Social, he also said that these deals he's made with Iran are worthless to them. Whether it's the MOU or other negotiations, they're, quote, worthless to them, to the Iranians. And that I know it's just a passing line in his true social post. That does feel really bleak because it seems that he feels he doesn't have to really come to any conclusion in this conflict and that he can continue. I think what's become obvious to everybody is that he is continuing to just try and play it out, trying to make Americans feel a little bit better about their economic situation and not cleverly or in any with with any political smoothness whatsoever.
15:27Emily Jashinsky:telling people if they don't like data centers, it's their fault that they're poor, those sorts of things. It's not as though he's doing this in a really clever way, but it seems that he's just trying to coast without drawing anything to a conclusion, which on the one hand, I suppose it means we're not in for major escalation in the near future. On the other hand, that threat remains the longer that you're actually in a hot conflict. And Congress, which is controlled in both chambers by Republicans passed a war powers resolution requiring the war to come to an end. Constitutionally speaking, that should be the end of it.
16:03Greg Meeks, who is the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said, I don't even know if he was misspeaking or what, said he was going to sue Speaker Johnson to enforce it. Because there is a real question of, okay, you've passed your war powers resolution, now how do you enforce it? but from a constitutional perspective this war has been ordered halted by congress which has war making authority like it's right there in the constitution declaring war up to them war powers act gives this power to congress um and yet he's just pressing ahead uh mike johnson was pressed recently, I guess it was yesterday, on hey man, you were pretty sure that this thing was almost over.
16:49What happened? Here's A5. On Iran, you said repeatedly that this war was going to be over soon. You said that this would be a temporary blip on gas prices. It is more than six months. People are getting hurt still at the pump. Should the American people not also judge you on your projections here that were clearly off base? Manu, that is one of the stupidest questions you've ever answered. Why is that stupid? I have nothing to do with the prosecution of the war across the globe. You are responsible. You are selling this to the American public, are you not? So should the House Speaker be held responsible for the duration of a military conflict around the globe?
17:27You answer that question. I mean, you call this a short-term scrimmage. It is costing billions of dollars. That is such an impressive assertion of powerlessness. I thought that was a Democrat for a second.
17:37Emily Jashinsky:That was pretty. That was amazing. He also, I mean, so he's always been, this probably hasn't gotten enough coverage, his prickliness about having to defend the war. You've seen it over and over again, like basically since it began, because what are you supposed to say to a question like that? Actually, you are the Speaker of the House. So clapping back at Manu, like what do I have to do with any of this is so ridiculous. But a statement on the expectation that we don't hold Congress responsible at this point for prosecuting wars around. Like that is actually his job. He just said that his he described his job when saying it's not me.
18:11Right.
18:12Emily Jashinsky:It was actually a description of exactly him. Right. Congress does not have kind of war making powers in an advisory capacity. It's right there. He could he doesn't need to be sued by Greg Meeks. He could he could file something with the Supreme Court. he has standing he's the house speaker he passed a war powers resolution and the supreme court could then order that this war come to an end and then you have a constitutional crisis if trump insists that it continue and then the secretary of defense obviously would continue to tell you know who good lord whoever he puts in position to replace driscoll did you see brian mast was being floated.
18:56Speaking of civilian casualties, this guy glories particularly when children have been killed in Gaza. He's celebrated it. Future terrorists is what he calls them. So this guy's being floated for army secretary. So at that point, then you get a constitutional crisis because the Supreme Court is saying this war has to end. Congress has ended it. It's very clear this requires no interpretation or Harvard Law degree. done. So you must order it. You must end it. And then you get the question of whether or not the president abides by that Supreme Court order. But unquestionably, Mike Johnson could do something.
19:38He just has no interest in doing it.
19:40Emily Jashinsky:We should also pause for a moment and just not take for granted what the answer would be politically if Republicans were in a good situation, again, politically and substantively. You would say, well, why would we stop this war? Why would I ever want to stop this war. This war is important. We are preventing nuclear catastrophe. We are protecting the homeland. He doesn't say any of that. He's like, it's not my job. He didn't say anything in defense of the war when getting pressed by Manu Raju there. He tried to deflect. And that tells you, that's the Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, who right now obviously has his candidates around the country struggling in their midterm elections.
20:18Emily Jashinsky:So that tells you how behind closed doors a lot of Republicans are absolutely furious about the way that this war has gone. It's not that they don't support taking on Iran. It's that they either wish it had been faster and more furious from the beginning, and they thought it should have been escalated and should have had boots on the ground and Karg Island and gone and got the nuclear dust or whatever, or they're just deeply frustrated with the way the president is at this point just talking and seeming like he's listless in what he actually wants to do. There doesn't seem to be any plan. The way the war was executed, I mean, everyone watching knows what I'm talking about, but I don't want to take for granted that this is the Speaker of the House who's deflecting and not defending the war like that.
21:06Right, yeah. Why are you bothering me with this trivial stuff? I mean, put up A8 just to give people a sense of how this is unfolding in Iran with the Iranian people. So this is Iranian state TV. These are these are victims of this attack on on the wedding. They're they're saying that, you know, now at this point, five people killed, including a four year old child, 63 injured of the 63. 50 were women and children. And this footage that you're looking at here is Minab Hospital, which is the hospital that would have treated the girls who survived the attack on the school there. This is the same area that has now faced two of the most high profile attacks on civilians in this war.
21:55Or the, I think it's very, maybe it shouldn't be, it's difficult for us to kind of comprehend how powerful the U.S. starting the war by attacking this girl's school and killing 150 plus girls has been in the kind of Iranian psyche. if you just imagine that that's how, if that happened here, like we would remember it for a century. And so now to have this new attack hit this wedding party in the same town, effectively, is I'm sure further in kind of inflaming Iranian resistance and the Iranian public's willingness to say, okay, yeah, like prices are up. Like it's certainly true that inflation is high in Iran right now.
22:58But this is, from their perspective, this is what they're up against. Now, there was some communication device that was struck about 150 yards from this. So that appears to be the target. And then the second strike was this. Should we do Schumer or we should just move on?
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23:18Emily Jashinsky:I think we should definitely do Schumer because this is interesting, right? This was interesting. So here he is. This was on Morning Joe yesterday, struggling to explain. We just saw Mike Johnson struggling from the Republican perspective to deal with the war. This should not be that difficult for Chuck Schumer, but let's take a listen. No, no, hold a second. You got to answer my question first. Is it a good thing that Iran, and I think you would agree with me, epicenter of terrorism in the world since 1979, is it good that their military infrastructure is being degraded to the degree that it is?
23:48Yes or no? You can't because it's a premature question. What is going to happen in the next several months? No, no, I can ask that question. No, no, no. I can't. So you have a military side, but I can show you my chart, but I think I threw it away. You have the military side, you have the political side. I'm simply asking on the military side, is it good, regardless of whether we agree with going in or not, is it good that Iran's military infrastructure has been seriously degraded? And again, I have to tell you, Joe, first, you can't, what's going to happen three months from now? Is it worth it?
24:25What's going to happen? Will the world economy collapse? Will something happen even worse? Will the whole energy infrastructure of the world go up in smoke? So you have to when they do it without planning, when they do it without understanding where they're going, Senator, Senator, where they're going. But I don't think it's there. It's a trick question. No, it's not. It is. If you do not strategize the consequences of the action, the military action, if you obliterate and do all these things, but you don't actually play on your minds and have strategy for the consequences, then it may not be good.
25:02Oh, let me answer the question for everybody in America. The answer, yes. It's good that the terrorist regime, their military has been and capabilities have been degraded radically.
25:16Emily Jashinsky:Why didn't he just do what Mika did from the beginning? How uncomfortable is it also to be in the middle of their like marital dispute live on air? I think he sort of tried to do that. I think he was probably a little bit surprised because if I just read a transcript and you told me that this was a middle school public access conversation, I'd be like, okay, these kids are trying. It's cute. And then you had a couple of adults on there as well trying to explain to them, well, no, there's a thing called consequences that are inseparable from the decision. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about consequences.
25:54We'll get to that. I was like, yes, if you take a lot of pills, you do actually feel really good. Isn't it true you feel really good when you take those pills? It's a smart question. So you should therefore take the pills, right? And be like, well, okay, but what if you then get into behind the wheel and crash it and kill a lot of people? Then you probably shouldn't have taken the pills. I'm not asking about that. I'm saying, did you feel good when you were on the pills?
26:17Emily Jashinsky:That's it. That's all we need to answer to. Did you feel good when you were on the pills? That's all I'm asking. So I don't know how you talk to a child like that. Because you could see looking at his face, you're like, oh, he's a child. So at that point, it was probably smart. Just let his wife handle this one. Allow her to step in. Yeah, take it. Well, I would have loved to have seen the chart, frankly. Whatever chart he had, I would have loved to have seen it. Written in crown, 100%. Oh, man. All right. Well, let's now talk about more dire circumstances and turn to bonds. I'm Munga Shatikula, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive.
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27:43Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.
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28:56And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great.
29:19Emily Jashinsky:Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip the script? What if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that. Seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen. I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept, you know, Danny McBride. Fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you.
30:04I was like, is that weed? Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like, oh, what's a state? Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts one of the funny things about these financial charts when it comes to like oil prices and interest rates is when they go up the charts get rendered in green so you're like oh this is great This is going great for us.
30:59A lot of green with the Japanese bonds, the 10 and the 30 year and also oil prices. But spoiler, probably not so good for you. Let's start with B1. This is a kind of great global debt unraveling that we're witnessing. So that green you're seeing over there is basically a record jump on the Japan 30-year note, climbing over 4%, just massively increasing borrowing costs. So what it also does is when the Japanese 30-year, now you can get, you know, it's fluctuating a little bit, but right there, you think about 4.2%. What that means is if you're an investor and you have French or German or American bonds that are getting less than that, you sell those and you go buy the Japanese ones.
31:55So now what happens over then, over in the U.S. and France and Germany, those bond prices go down. This is one of the things they'll teach you in Finance 101. When bond prices go down, interest rates go up because you need to then entice people, basically, with a little higher interest rate to get them in. We put up B2, the 10-year bond. I like when they compact these charts a little bit.
32:21Emily Jashinsky:Yeah, makes it look rather dramatic. Basically, a green wall of the interest rates just shooting straight up, always comforting. And we put up B3. As I was saying, these things rebound around the world. So this is Reuters reporting. So Japan's 10-year yield hit 3 % of the first time since 1996. As the route hits bond prices, driving up yields in major economies around the world, Yields hit their highest in 15 years in Germany and their highest since 2008 in the U.K. In the U.S., the 10-year yield rose 3.8 basis points to 4.8%, putting it in range of its highest levels since 2023. COVID come down.
33:10We can put up drop sites. So if people want to get this next one, I think, is before people want to dive deeper into this, the the entire economy is kind of being shaken by and effectively by oil prices. And we'll get into that in a second. That's why this is going on. But not to worry. Put up B5. Scott Besant, which one of his delightful quotes, I don't think we are in any kind of a dire situation.
33:41Emily Jashinsky:This is yesterday at the G20, which is being held right now in Asheville, North Carolina, in the United States. And so the reason we're focusing on Japan here is not just because they had the biggest breakout yesterday, but also because Besson himself kind of kicked off this insane round of financial tumult by intervening to try to defend the Japanese yen so that there wouldn't have to be a sell off of U.S. Treasury bonds by the Japanese yen. government to support their own currency. So he threw a ton of American, you know, threw a ton of dollars into the Japanese economy. And it, you know, here we are.
34:28You can argue what maybe we would have been here a week ago if he hadn't done that. But all of those billions of dollars, you know, flushed across the globe. And we got to this position anyway. We now just, It's very it's similar metaphorically to our war in Iran. Like we so we shot off all of our munitions and now our stocks are that much lower and we're still in the exact same place, if not a little bit worse off than we were before. And all of this is coming back to energy prices, which are filtering through the economy that the Asian countries are, you know, oil obviously is a global commodity.
35:07But Asian countries are more reliant on oil and other petroleum products that flow through the Strait of Hormuz than we are just because of geography of the situation. And so, you know, as it's and it's interesting how it works as. As prices rise because of the increasing cost of gas and diesel and oil and prices rise across the board, that is registered as central bankers and and also and financial analysts as inflation because it is prices rising. But think about it. It's not COVID-like inflation. It's not inflation because there was too much spending. If you're going to take it from a right-wing perspective, it's not inflation because you had a COVID lockdown.
36:00It's inflation because there's less oil and because there's less supply of oil, still same amount of demand for it. Prices are going up. And so then the central banks are going to try to respond by trying to crush what they call demand destruction. So they're going to try to, okay, we can't increase supply. It is what it is. We've got a war about this. So let's make sure there's less demand. And for there to be less demand, we have to slow down the economy. We have to throw people out of work, give people fewer hours, cut their wages, make things, make borrowing.
36:37Emily Jashinsky:Make it hard to buy. Yeah, make borrowing and credit more difficult for businesses to get so that there's just less economic activity. And then people will try to buy less oil because they have less money. And then you keep prices down. But think about that. Less construction, less investment. Yeah, you're trying to financially engineer your way out of a problem that is obviously just physical. There aren't enough tankers of oil getting through the straight of Hormuz because we had an MOU and we decided not to abide by it. Um, and so, so people who hold bonds see that the European Central Bank next week is expected, I think there's a 95 % certainty they're going to raise interest rates.
37:17Uh, the analysts think that the Japanese Central Bank is going to raise interest rates. So then because they expect those interest rates to go up, uh, they think that the bonds that they're holding will then be, they'll go down in price because interest rates go up, bonds go down in price. So they sell them, get rid of these bonds because these are dogs. Need to get rid of, get these off my books. And that then kind of drives the cycle a little bit faster, pushes the price down, pushes interest rates up in anticipation of this, of these coming rate hikes. And so in order to rescue this like broken economy, we're going to make the economy worse.
38:01Like that's literally the solution.
38:03Emily Jashinsky:It's crazy because just this time last year, Trump was pushing for Kevin Warsh specifically to go into the Fed and take interest rates down. And he gave the speech in Jackson Hole that suggests he's going to raise interest rates. Yeah. What I mean, he none of the people around him would think he should do otherwise, because this is just the autopilot way we've managed the economy for the last, whatever, 100 years. But this is exactly what Donald Trump wanted to not happen. He wanted to come back in, get interest rates down, have a booming economy, even better than he felt was reflected in his first term.
38:37Emily Jashinsky:And so much so that he was expending significant political capital going after Jerome Powell. Like significant political capital. Whining and crying and trying to prosecute him. Yes. And like not that it matters too much to him, but breaking all the established norms about how the president when just really since the Nixon era or I guess the Carter era, but like breaking all of these norms about how the president talks to the head of the Fed. And here he is because he decided to launch the war. It's the opposite of what he was hoping to happen at this time a year ago. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel whatsoever.
39:12Emily Jashinsky:He's trying on the supply side. We can put B6 up. This is a drop site post. So funny. Where he said, we are unleashing American energy dominance on true social. And Job State writes, Trump declared that the White House was unleashing American energy dominance in a post after he met major oil refiners at the White House on Tuesday. So yesterday, hoping to find a way to expand capacity and lower surging fuel prices, which threaten higher inflation and lower economic growth. Participants at that White House meeting included Marathon Petroleum, Phillips 66, Chevron, like U.S. Holdings, PBF Energy, Valero Energy, and others, according to the Financial Times.
39:49Emily Jashinsky:They promoted deregulation, the White House did, exemptions from biofuel requirements for small refineries, and you guessed it, increased Venezuelan crude supplies as ways to lower costs. So now they're betting on Venezuela, Ryan. Yeah, and so he brought in all of these oil executives, which is reminiscent of Biden once in a while during his tenure. He was trying to jawbone very gently and quietly and i wish he would have done it a lot more jawbone people were joking that he was like next he was gonna like uh if you remember jawbone the guys whose job it is to change the numbers on the actual like sign outside the gas station come on come on jack come on man but uh the financial times and its coverage of it includes a photo of a diesel selling for$7.45 a gallon.
40:39That's California, a little pricier out there. But there is no kind of rural economy in the United States that works at$7.45 a gallon for diesel, because diesel is what goes into, and so tractors, the trucks, like major equipment, Everything. Yes. And we're now heading into the fall, which is planting season for some crops and harvest season for others. And the inputs for fertilizer and diesel for this kind of surge of energy-intensive activity are breaking the back of communities all across the country. Farms. for what? Iran has already said they don't want a nuclear weapon. Why are you losing your farm?
41:37What for?
41:38Emily Jashinsky:The average AAA, AAA's average diesel price across the country right now is$5.69. Better than$7.49. A year ago, it was$3.69. Right. Two buck increase over the course of the year, which is having all of the ripple effects that you just described around the world, not just here. Yeah. But Trump, he yelled at the gas guys. And he owns Venezuela now. He owns Venezuela. He also said that he's going to top off the Strategic Petroleum Reserve with Venezuelan oil. Like, we tried that before. It didn't work. It's too heavy. It doesn't work with the caves that we use for our reserves. Like, it's just can't do that.
42:31And also, they produce about, what, 1.5 million barrels a day because of this massive disinvestment. You're not turning that up next week. With massive investment, you could turn it up in a year, maybe. Even then, it wouldn't be able to fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
42:54Emily Jashinsky:So it's it's not even a short-term solution. Just just delusional. Yeah, it's not even a short-term band-aid Yeah, it's like what do you mean? We're gonna like a You can't actually pump more next week be it doesn't work in our petroleum reserve So all you can do is try to decrease demand Right, which means you need less money like they believe that you have too much money that you're spending in the economy and so they're going to try to engineer it such that things cost more for you and you have less money and less work, less labor, so that then you travel less, you use fewer resources, and that drives down prices of things.
43:34Emily Jashinsky:Which is why Mike Johnson did not want to answer that question about the war when he was asked. We covered that earlier in the show. Which is why it's good our first month is free at breakingpoints.com. That's what this is actually about, though. You thought the free month subscription trial was just us being benevolent? Actually trying to reduce inflation. Yeah, well, we do our part. Speaking of the political ramifications of all of this, let's move on to the midterms. I'm Munga Shatikula, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about, and what it really means to live forever for all of us.
44:21I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you, and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. and get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman.
45:08I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.
45:23Emily Jashinsky:I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
46:01Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great.
46:26Emily Jashinsky:Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip the script? What if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that. It seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept, you know, Danny McBride. Fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity yeah ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like they're like oh what's this so stupid everyone's so dumb except for you right fake and and also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us.
47:38Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
47:51Emily Jashinsky:Humiliating defeat for Seth Moulton in the Massachusetts Democratic Senate primary yesterday. The margin, as we are sitting here right now, is a 30-point, resounding 30-point defeat for Senate hopeful Seth Moulton, Representative Seth Moulton looks like 65 to 35, roughly, the margin of victory for Ed Markey, about 30 points. Ryan, are you surprised by this? Not surprised by this. In fact— Are you not even surprised by that margin? I'm a little surprised by the margin. In fact, I have proof that I'm not surprised. I was on Raging Moderates with Jessica Tarlove. Of course. Yesterday. No, Monday.
48:30Emily Jashinsky:Oh, Dropside's biggest fan at Fox News. Well, it's not much competition. But yes, she's the kind of the progressive host on her, I guess, liberal moderate host or whatever on the five. It's probably fair to call it progressive. I think so. But I'm just saying the podcast is called Raging Moderates. Yes. So it's confusing. So we talked about this race and I said, no, I think he's going to win by 30 plus. You said 30 plus. Yeah. Incredible vindication. The vindication of Ryan Graham. There you go. Because this is the mood that the public is in right now. They want people like Marky. If you are completely just DC-brained, I think Neera Tannen was saying, maybe there's not actually an ideological conflict going on in the Democratic Party.
49:17It's actually generational. And that would explain why Tom Steyer lost in California. And she said it would partly explain some of New York City. Not sure. I guess Espayat is old. So that would, and Cuomo's older than Mamdani, like I guess was her thinking.
49:34Emily Jashinsky:Let's not try too hard to understand Neera Tanden. Some desperate rationalization going on. And so if that was the case, that it's really generational and not ideological, the 80-year-old Ed Markey versus the very young and healthy-looking Seth Moulton. Young, virile Seth Moulton. We have a good photo of Seth Moulton. We actually have a video because to your point, Seth Moulton seemed to understand maybe too late in his campaign where the mood of the public was because he, I think, at one point tried to – not at one point, but I think while he was considering running, he saw himself as somebody who could be like a bridge from woke one, I guess, into the future for Democrats.
50:20No, the resistance, like the Trump resistance.
50:21Emily Jashinsky:Right. And he's a big – That is absence of any other substance. Exactly, yes. And he's a big MSNOW guy. He's on there all the time. And I think he realized that he needed too late in his campaign that he needed to channel this angry energy and maybe convince people tonally that he was aligned with like the angry, I don't know, DSA. And I don't say angry there pejoratively. I think we're all angry right now. But he needed to make people think he was with them in sentiment. So he put out this video when the awful ice situation in Maine was happening a couple of months ago. It just he's he's giving like horrible theater kid, like failed theater kid energy, trying to convince voters that he's going to be really tough.
51:07Emily Jashinsky:Let's roll C1B. If you don't think this is fucked up, you don't know what it means to be an American. And every one of us should be angry right now in this moment and willing to stand up for our values, the values that have always made this country great. and anyone who's just letting these MAGA autocrats get away with this needs to fight or get out of the way. It's time for us to stop this. So if you're on your way to Maine right now, thank you. If you're standing up and fighting in your community, thank you. If you're doing everything you can to protect our values, thank you. But if you're someone who can do more, then we need to do more.
51:41We need to do more right now because lives are on the line. Lives are getting lost because what? He used his Prius as a weapon at two and a half miles an hour, that's just an excuse to shoot somebody. That's what's going on. These thugs want an excuse to shoot someone like they're patrolling the Warsaw ghetto in 1941. That's bullshit. And it needs to stop.
52:02Emily Jashinsky:I don't think he believes a word of what he said there, Ryan. Like even if as most Massachusetts voters do, you agree with him on that. It was pathetic. It felt like he was reading. Well, he was obviously reading off of the script, but it felt like he was doing an act. Yeah, I agree with every word of what he said. But yeah, there's something about it that just doesn't. He's putting on this like Mr. Tough Guy armor. Like it's going to convince people that he's actually more hardcore than Ed Markey. Yeah, and he spent so much of his, or let's do past tense at this point, of his political effort going after the party's left.
52:39that it kind of undermines your sense that he really is committed to this cause. It's like, what's more important to you? Is it this intramural stuff or is it that? And so now, Ayanna Pressley, I think if she had run, then I think we're talking about a different, potentially different outcome.
53:04Emily Jashinsky:And I think that tells you, because I can see that too, it tells you that some of it, the generational stuff is not nothing, right? People do look at folks who have parked out in the House or the Senate for many years with some baked in skepticism. But Ed Markey did against Seth Milton enough to overcome any of that. Yeah. Yeah. The Sunrise Movement in 2020 gave him this incredible progressive glow up. He was the co-sponsor, the lead sponsor of the Green New Deal for them. And it is still glowing. Like, it's pretty incredible, you know, what that youth movement was able to do such that now they're starting to lose their hair.
53:46And he's still benefiting from what they had done for him. We can run through a couple of the other races in Massachusetts. If I had more time, if there was more hours in the day, I really wanted to cover, and I feel bad about this, not covering the Richie Neal race. This was a race I covered back in 2020 when he got challenged by Alex Morse. He's top Democrat on the Ways and Means Committee. Very powerful, kind of right-wing, pro-corporate. Private equity owns a ton of Western Massachusetts homes. So this is the Berkshires. So it's this crazy situation where people with vacation homes have ended up really kind of becoming dominant in an area.
54:29And I think Richie Neal's pro-private whether they buy second or third homes in the Berkshires or not. But he stands in the way of a lot of progressive stuff going through the powerful Ways and Means Committee. And Jeremy Whelan, who challenged him currently within 7 ,000 votes, they've called it for Richie Neal, but extremely close challenge to one of the most powerful Democrats in the House that got very little attention. Uh, Neil romped in Springfield, heavily working class Hispanic, um, town. Uh, he won by 30 points at the, that's the biggest city, uh, in that biggest, and it's a very impoverished city in that, uh, in that district didn't almost gave him his entire margin.
55:16Um, Springfield, Massachusetts, uh, a couple other, let's see a couple other races. Um, one we covered, was the Dan Coe versus Tram Wynn. We interviewed Jamie Belstito, who had said that when she went to Washington, she was told by Lois Frankel that they desperately wanted a woman to represent this seat. It was an open race to replace Seth Moulton and that she could have the support of all of these women's groups, but she also had to take all of this crypto AI and APAC money. which then is funneled through Lois Frankel's super PACs, which are called elect Democratic women and pro-choice majority action.
56:01She said no. And so she ends up finishing fourth. Tram Wynn ended up getting this kind of progressive support through these pro these women's groups. But she ended up losing by about 12 points to Dan Coe, who was a former Biden official. And interestingly, he was Marty Walsh's chief of staff and went to transportation department with, you know, as kind of the number two to Marty Walsh. He campaigned on being endorsed by Biden and Kamala Harris. So that which is interesting.
56:39Emily Jashinsky:Yes, it is. And it worked for him. He's at 41 percent. It's been it's been called for him. Did a reverse Dario Leza. Right. Right. So this is the northern North Shore. It's like north of Boston. Interestingly, he used to work for the Huffington Post as Arianna's Huffington's chief of staff back in like 2011 or something. From Arianna Huffington's chief of staff to a Marty Walsh aide. What a trajectory. So I've known Dan since he was like a 22-year-old little upstart, impressive, sharp kid. Now he's on his way to Congress. Since it was called Huffington Post. He also got a bunch of, right, he also got$600 ,000,$700 ,000 in support from the Bad AI Super Pack, Leading the Future, I think it's called, something like that, LTF, or the sister pack of that one.
57:31So that's a win for that AI Super Pack. Jake Auchincloss ended up, he had a challenger who had like zero money. He ended up with 70%, I believe. No, he's at 73%. Jason Poulos with no money at all at 27%. So it suggests he's vulnerable to an actual challenge. I haven't looked at the down-ballot ones. I know that Beacon Hill establishment was under a lot of threat. We can look at those later. But I would suspect that a bunch of those were successful. Oh, and then Stephen Lynch. So he's the, he was getting the most spirited challenge from this Patrick Roath, long time, long time congressman. Like a kind of a classic Massachusetts archetype, this union mechanic who's socially conservative and old at this point.
58:40and so he ended up winning by it looks like 10 points or he's up by 10 has been called so that that was one that they thought they were going to knock off an incumbent but it doesn't look
58:49Emily Jashinsky:like it's going to happen we're almost out of primary season not quite out of primary season so we have new hampshire coming up next week we have a guest coming in just one moment but worth also mentioning that a new poll out of michigan yesterday this was a michigan state you gov poll we can put this last element up on the screen, C2, had Abdu El-Sayed up five points over Mike Rogers in Michigan. And this account, Interactive Polls, points out basically only one poll, major poll released in August had Mike Rogers up. That was a Fox News poll that had Rogers up three points. I'm on the RCP average right now.
59:24Emily Jashinsky:And similarly, only one poll that they've indexed over the course of the last month had Rogers up. That Fox News poll and El-Sayed in the RCP average is up 2.3 points. So he took over the lead in the RCP average mid-August, and the numbers have kept going up for him. It's not going in the opposite direction. It's not tightening. The race is actually widening if you're looking at the real-court politics average right now. And I suspect that's what we thought it was going to be right after the primary, was that Rogers had consolidated total Republican support. It's a ceiling. 98.2 or whatever. Whereas right after this bruising primary, al-Sayed, there was still some skepticism.
1:00:07And despite this establishment's, party establishment's best efforts, that seems to be, the resistance to him seems to be dissipating. You know, he's genuflecting in every possible direction to try to say, I'm not a threat to you. Like, come on, let's all come together and beat Mike Rogers. And a lot, most Democrats at this point seem to be thinking, okay, yeah, let's do that. Meanwhile, Well, it certainly helps him that Trump wants to launch a trade war with Canada, major trading partner, particularly when it comes to the auto industry. Like if Trump isn't stopped in this mania, he will destroy the like Michigan auto industry because it's designed such that the parts are moving back and forth like a dozen times before they finish making the car.
1:00:54And if you have to pay a tariff on that every time, forget it. You can't compete. Or you could just reshore Michigan. Right, not by November.
1:01:02Emily Jashinsky:No, certainly not by November. Not that that's really bothering Trump at the moment. No, it doesn't seem to be bothering him. Plus, you know, he seems to be fine just keeping this war going indefinitely. Yes, he does seem to be fine doing that. And Mike Rogers is stuck in that bind where he can't say a word against Trump because Trump is willing to lose a Senate race rather than allow somebody. It's like a pretty standard thing. To lose all the Senate races. All the Senate races. It's a standard thing in politics for like a Hakeem Jeffries or a Mike Johnson or a Nancy Pelosi. It's a bipartisan habit to be like, look, if you need to distance yourself from me in your race because I'm unpopular, go ahead and do it.
1:01:50Like that is a thing that party leaders have been doing. Of course. Including presidents. Nancy Pelosi.
1:01:55Emily Jashinsky:Forever. Master of it. Yes. But Trump's like, no, I don't care how much it hurts you. You are by my side, Mike Rogers. You're right on the back of this bomb with your cowboy hat in the air, riding it all the way to the ground. Sure is. Well, let's talk about New Hampshire. I'm Manga Shatikular and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science.
1:02:38I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best. for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home.
1:03:22This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse.
1:03:59Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
1:04:33Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great.
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1:06:18But all of a sudden, people have started to notice that he has a challenger who, depending on whose polls you take more seriously, is either significantly behind or catching up at a furious pace. And that is Karishma Manzor, a physician from New Hampshire who is challenging Pappas from his left. She's joining us now. Dr. Manzor, thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much, Ryan. May I make a minor correction? Yes. I'm not a physician. I'm a scientist. So tell us about your background. uh i have a phd in biochemistry and molecular biology and i worked in clinical research for about 20 years i specialized in epilepsy and depression and i loved being a scientist um but several years for the last several years i've also been volunteering in the non-profit sector here in new hampshire and the two big non-profits that i'm involved with are peace action because we need to fix this war economy it's uh destroying our communities causing massive death and destruction across the world and burning down our planet.
1:07:25The other nonprofit that I'm involved with is Open Democracy Action, and we've been trying to get big money out of politics. So I'm a scientist as well as a nonprofit leader and now I'm running for the United States Senate. And so what has been the thing or the things that have enabled you to kind of, you know, gain some significant traction heading into, is it, and is it, it's next week, is that right? I can't keep up with all these primaries. Goodness. Okay. So, you know, it seems like it's a serious race. I've heard my sources have said that Pappas is kind of frustrated with the kind of Washington establishment, that they haven't come in kind of to help him in the primary.
1:08:06But the counterargument from some in Washington has been that it actually wouldn't help him, that Washington putting its thumb on the scale would actually probably benefit his challenger more. So what has it been, you know, what are you finding on the ground are the kinds of things that are resonating? We are offering common sense policies. I think over the course of the last several decades, we've forgotten what public service should be about. It is about improving people's lives right here in our communities. So we have a housing crisis, a childcare crisis, a healthcare crisis, because too many of our Congress members are answering to their donors and no longer working for the American people.
1:08:45And that is exactly why I'm running. I'm from the people and we're just frustrated with Congress members who are not working for us anymore. I'm offering actual common sense solutions. We need livable wages. Our federal minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of living. We need a federal minimum wage of at least$20 an hour. We need to pass Medicare for all. We need to pass universal childcare and we need to protect and fund social security. And at the same time, we have to stop wasting billions of dollars killing children overseas and instead use that money to feed and educate our own children.
1:09:21So that is why our common sense platform is resonating with people across New Hampshire and they're rising up. Yeah.
1:09:28Emily Jashinsky:When you're out campaigning, what are the top issues that people bring up to you? What do they suggest they care most about right now? So from as when we just present our campaign, a lot of times people like us just because they're frustrated with Chris Pappas. Just the fact that he has an opponent, even without even understanding our platform, is enough to convert someone to becoming a supporter. The other is when they hear the word progressive, that has a lot of positive connotation right here in New Hampshire. Most people are progressives in the Democratic base. And Bernie Sanders won New Hampshire in 2016-2020 presidential primary, and people have a lot of respect for Bernie still here in New Hampshire.
1:10:07So that I'm that Chris, I'm a opponent of Chris Pappas, that I'm a progressive, a scientist, a peace activist, that I'm fighting for Medicare for all. This resonates with people across the political ideology because people are suffering from the health care crisis. The fact that I'm not taking a single cent from super PACs, corporate PACs, APAC resonates very well. People want honest candidates, honest lawmakers. And the fact that I am speaking out against the genocide that's going on in the Middle East. So for multiple reasons, folks are moving towards becoming supporters. The biggest challenge is name recognition.
1:10:48So the poll you quoted still shows that nearly 40 percent of the people in New Hampshire still don't know enough about me. And that's what we are trying to bridge in the next few days. And the story of how your family got over to the United States is on the one hand kind of highly unusual, on the other hand, familiar. Can you talk a little bit about your family background and your father and then how your family wound up in the U.S.? Sure. Actually, my story starts even before my birth. In 1971, there was a war of independence in Bangladesh. Three million Bangladeshis were slaughtered in nine short months, and that level of atrocity was only possible because of U.S.-made weapons.
1:11:30I lost family members in that war, including my mother's 19-year-old brother was killed. So I grew up in a broken family. I was born in 1974, but it was already a broken family. They never really recovered from all the losses, and that was true for many families across the country. Unfortunately, in 1981, 10 years after the War of Independence, my father, Major General Muhammad Abu Manzor, was assassinated. We faced, my mother, my siblings, and I were arrested. I was only seven years old. And we faced years of political persecution in Bangladesh. And my mother kept saying the only country in the world where we could seek refuge was the United States.
1:12:12And that's one of the greatest paradoxes, the kindness and generosity of the American people and the failures of the American government. So it was a very difficult process for a widow to bring four children to the United States. But we found safety here. But like many working class families, we were working four dollars, 25 cents an hour. Those were that was the minimum wage back then. I was working seven days a week, multiple jobs just to pay rent. whatever was left over was for food. And like millions of Americans, we did not have access to health care. Unfortunately, my mother and my sister were suffering from chronic illnesses and going without access to health care for several years had a profound impact on their bodies.
1:12:53And like thousands of Americans, they both died young. So when I talk about the need for livable wages, affordable housing, universal health care, and a foreign policy that's not based on war profiteering. I'm talking about personal experience because I don't want any family to suffer the way my family has. And one of the things that you've been criticized for has not been living in New Hampshire long enough, which is a little bit ironic given the life history. If you've been in New Hampshire for generations, your father wouldn't have been kind of a Bangladeshi war hero. So it's just the fundamental contradiction you can't untangle there.
1:13:38So how do you respond to people on the campaign trail? Because we still have this kind of parochial sense of, you know, particularly in New England. Someone's not a New Englander until they've been there, unless they came off the Mayflower or whatever. So how do you respond to that skepticism from voters? So New England, I've had roots in New England for a while. So that's I arrived in Massachusetts. I finished high school in Massachusetts. But in New Hampshire, I've only been living here for about five, six years now. But more than 50 percent of the people in New Hampshire were not born in New Hampshire.
1:14:15So that's something. But I think it's more the detractors that are making this an issue. But most people don't even care because I'm just the face of the campaign. I am. It is not just about one person. This is about taking on the war economy, taking on the corporations, taking on Benjamin Netanyahu and war profiteering. So I represent so much more than just one person. Again, I'm only the face of the campaign. Behind me are thousands of people. Some were born in New Hampshire, have lived here for generations and some have other different levels of status. What we are representing is common sense policies to improve people's lives right here in New Hampshire.
1:14:51We are representing honest and unbought campaign that is only answering to the people of New Hampshire, not corporations, not foreign aligned lobbies like AIPAC. And the most important part is we are trying to reclaim our power from the destruction of our government by an influence of foreign people like Benjamin Netanyahu.
1:15:12Emily Jashinsky:And what response? I mean, I'm actually just curious about this because particularly since COVID, a lot of working class rural voters are skeptical. First of all, the medical establishment, as I'm sure you're familiar with, and also just of kind of people who they see as maybe elites. And I'm curious how that maybe has come up, if it has at all on the campaign trail, how you deal with sort of maybe any skepticism that may be lingering among people who are extra sensitive and skeptical right now of folks coming in from the medical establishment or from academia. So I've traveled across New Hampshire for the last year.
1:15:54Our state is not very big and I've yet still covered 38 ,000 miles. That's how many miles I've put on my van, 38 ,000. I've gone to almost every single town several times to many of these towns and cities. I have heard, talked to thousands of people. I don't even remember anyone asking about it. Online, I sometimes see questions about COVID, but I don't think that is the pressing issue here. What people want to know is how can we improve their lives? We have a housing crisis, which is extremely severe. There are people who can't, who are living with multiple people in an apartment or a house, but they're not enough bedrooms.
1:16:32So sometimes people are sleeping on a couch or in the closet, like literally in the closet. Sometimes people just don't have enough to eat to stretch their Social Security check or any of their income to the end of the month and are eating cereal for the last few days. These are the real issues, people who have cancer but cannot afford treatment. And there are two choices, either they mortgage their homes or they just die. These are the real problems in New Hampshire and across this country. I'm not hearing necessarily stories from the five years ago. The other thing that people are realizing is that money going away to bomb people overseas is money not in our community.
1:17:14And they want that money to come back. And a lot of people are also realizing the harm that these PACs are doing, whether corporate PACs, super PACs, or foreign line lobbies like APAC. And a lot of times the more of the questions come up is the money. Who are your donors? Are you just as corrupt as Chris Pappas? And the answer is no, God. Chris Pappas, whatever you want to think of him as a person, represents the corruption in Congress. He talks about getting big money out of politics. The only way he can get big money out of politics is if he resigns from Congress, because he is big money in politics.
1:17:51And so those are more of the questions that I'm receiving about foreign policy, the money, the Iran war, the attacks on Palestine, Lebanon, Benjamin Netanyahu's influence in our foreign policy. Interestingly, those are really the key issues that people are worried about here in New Hampshire. And your opponent, John Sununu, is related to the very popular governor, Chris Sununu. And, you know, the Republicans had tried to get Chris Sununu to run. He refused to do so. Sununu, John Sununu himself, used to be a senator lost in 2008. I would assume a decent number of voters think John Sununu is Chris Sununu.
1:18:33So, you know, how do you go up against... This is a race that Democrats, I think, privately are quite concerned about, regardless of who the Democratic nominee is, because the Sununus are so popular in New Hampshire, and it's going to be a very close race. How do you challenge that kind of popular dynasty in this moment? So what I'm trying to explain to people is the concept that we have political dynasties is undemocratic. Just that alone tells you that we are suffering from undemocratic actions right here in New Hampshire. The Shaheen family and the Pappasists, that's one dynasty that's controlling the Democratic Party.
1:19:11And the Sununus are controlling the Republican Party. And both of them are suppressing any kind of challenges from the grassroots campaign. It is shameful that one Sununu after another is always in our ballots. That's not democratic. They have millions of dollars. Can they go off to the sunset and just enjoy their money and just leave us alone? Because in the middle of all this, there are billionaires that are funding both the Sununus and the Shaheens and the Pappases. So we are just pawns on the chessboard, but we're not even on the chessboard. This game is being played and we're not part of it.
1:19:47So what we are trying to explain to people is that the corporations own these corporate politicians, whether it's the Pappases, the Jeffreys, the Schumers or the Sununus. And we need all of them to be removed from power, from being considered as candidates. So right now, my main opponent is Chris Pappas, a genocide enabler with a D after his name. And on the other side, the Republican is John Sununu, who is a friend of a convicted pedophile with an R after his name. And they both represent the corruption and the problems with our system of governance. And this is why in the richest country in the world, there are people sleeping in the streets.
1:20:28People are dying of cancer treatment. People are senior citizens are losing their houses because these kinds of corporate politicians are ruining our communities. All right. Karishma Manzor, candidate for Senate in New Hampshire. The election is this coming Tuesday. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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