9/2/26: Massie Exposes Epstein Co-Conspirators, Ben Gvir Psycho AI Concentration Camp Post, Elon Predicts Robot Takeover

2 Sep 2026 · 27 min · 12 chapters

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The episode covers three main topics. First, Congressman Thomas Massie pushes “Epstein Transparency Act 2,” arguing the government still withholds over three million Epstein-related files and naming alleged co-conspirators on the House floor (e.g., Jes Staley, Leon Black, Les Wexner, David Copperfield, Lapo Elkann, Tom Pritzker, Glenn Dubin, John Luke Brunel, Prince Andrew, and others). The hosts discuss discharge-petition odds, prior legal limits (no private right of action), and political momentum via media coverage, including a Daily Beast report on Susan Collins donors and a Dallas Morning News story about an “Epstein Files Reading Room Bookmobile” during the GOP convention. Second, Israel/Gaza: Ben-Gvir’s deleted AI ad depicting Palestinians in a Holocaust-like conveyor-belt scene; repeated Al-Aqsa Mosque storms; claims about Ugandan drone collaboration in Gaza; and Israel’s ban on kite flying with a viral boy video and IDF justification. Third, Elon Musk’s G20 predictions: AI “Stockfish-level” software within 12–18 months, one billion humanoid robots in 10 years, and five-times productivity; hosts connect this to job-posting declines and public backlash to data centers.

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Massey's Call for Epstein Transparency

2:01 to 4:32

Congressman Massey pushes for the Epstein Transparency Act II, revealing co-conspirators.

“Well, Congressman Thomas Massey, Congressman for now, that is, was reading, actually went to the House floor yesterday, read the names of people he says are Epstein co-conspirators on the House floor.”

Public Perception and Political Impact of Epstein

4:32 to 6:06

Discussion on the public's reaction to Epstein's transparency issues and the implications for politicians.

“Discharge petition, I don't even know that in the middle of the Iran war, they're going to get enough Republicans to do round two of this.”

Epstein Ties in Maine Politics

6:06 to 7:48

Analyzing Maine Republican Susan Collins' ties to Epstein donors and political ramifications.

“I don't think we've heard the last of it.”

Democratic Strategy and Epstein Class

7:48 to 11:13

Exploration of how the Epstein discourse affects Democratic strategy and voter perception.

“So far, as I've been checking this morning, haven't seen much at all from Troy Jackson on Susan Collins' potential Epstein ties or the donor Epstein ties, which is just a political gift in 2026.”

Ben-Gvir's Disturbing Campaign Ad

12:31 to 14:00

Discussion of Itamar Ben-Gvir's provocative campaign ad depicting Palestinians.

“I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle.”

Controversial AI Imagery and Its Impact

14:00 to 17:43

Discussion on a provocative AI-generated image depicting Palestinians and its implications.

“So it begins with this AI slop of what are a bunch of obese Palestinians being shoved into a concentration camp on a conveyor belt.”

Kite Flying Ban as Cultural Symbol

17:43 to 19:12

Exploration of the cultural significance of kite flying in Gaza and recent bans.

“And so people are probably familiar with Reifat Al-Arir's legendary poem, If I Must Die, which the heart of it is about him living on in a boy flying a kite.”

Israeli Military Actions Amid Ceasefire

19:12 to 22:39

Report on Israeli military operations in Gaza during a declared ceasefire.

“While they didn't contain explosives, the IDF is taking precautionary measures to prevent any potential threat.”

Elon Musk's Predictions on AI

23:44 to 28:00

Discussion on Elon Musk's predictions regarding AI advancements and their implications.

“Elon Musk zoomed into the G20 in Asheville, North Carolina yesterday and made some predictions, depending on your point of view towards AI, that are either dire or very, very exciting.”

Elon Musk's Predictions on AI and Society

28:00 to 31:22

Discuss the implications of Elon Musk's timeline for AI advancements and societal changes.

“I mean, again, so he's saying that it's going to crush every human at writing code.”
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2:08Emily Jashinsky:Well, Congressman Thomas Massey, Congressman for now, that is, was reading, actually went to the House floor yesterday, read the names of people he says are Epstein co-conspirators on the House floor. He is now trying very hard for discharge petition to force a vote on the Epstein Transparency Act 2. Let's go ahead and take a listen to a bit of the Congressman on the House floor yesterday. Mr. Speaker, it's been a year since the president signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and the government continues to withhold over three million files. That's why we've introduced the Epstein Files Transparency Act II, to bring the fight to the state courts, accountability to the Department of Justice, and closure for survivors.

2:49We want perpetrators of these crimes to be investigated and prosecuted. Men like Jess Staley, Leon Black, Les Wexner, David Copperfield, Lapo Elkhom, Tom Pritzker, Glenn Dubin, Frederick Fakai, Eduardo Teodorani, John Luke Brunel, conveniently dead by suicide in prison, Danielle Sead, recently discovered dead in Paris, Ramsey Elkholy, and Prince Andrew, who committed sex crimes in the United States, too. And women like Leslie Groff, not a victim, who conspired with Epstein to traffic other women. Perhaps hearing these names will shame the Department of Justice into delivering justice. I yield back.

3:31There you go.

3:32Emily Jashinsky:He named 14 people. You just heard them there, who he says are co-conspirators. And Ryan, worth mentioning, when Thomas Massey was sitting right here at this desk, when we interviewed him several months ago, right before the primary that he ultimately lost, when Trump poured all of the money into the race to back his opponent, he said that an interesting element of the first Epstein Transparency Act that he passed with Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat, was that you are legally compelled to release all the files that should be, that don't fall under any of the redaction exemptions or under any of the classified exemptions, or I guess classified is not the right word, but exemptions where you didn't have to release them to the public.

4:16Emily Jashinsky:Meaning when a Democratic administration comes in, they could potentially prosecute people in the Justice Department right now who obstructed the release of files that were rightfully supposed to be released. The Epstein Transparency Act 2 seems dead on arrival. Discharge petition, I don't even know that in the middle of the Iran war, they're going to get enough Republicans to do round two of this. What ultimately helped with round one is that Republicans felt they couldn't do it. So does it have enough juice? There was a lot of media coverage at the time that kind of galvanized public attention.

4:52And well, we went to war because of that, right? To distract from it. We did a survey several weeks into the war asking the American people, we sponsored it, a dad of a progress did it, we did it with Zateo, asking the public, do you think that Trump went to war with Iran in part to cover up the Epstein, get the Epstein stuff off the front pages? And And by a 50 to 42 percent margin, the American people said, yes, we do think that that's what happened. So I don't want that to be memory hold. I think historians might have a hard time kind of believing that. But that certainly was the impression that most people had.

5:28It's ironic that, you know, if you look at the bar at the bottom here, Iran is right there at the top and Epstein all the way down, you know, towards the middle and usually not being covered at all because they, you know, effectively push this. push this away. So there needs to be enormous public outrage again. And you could imagine a world in which Democrats running across the country and tried to generate attention around it again. And you got the podcast class and got people upset again. I don't think we've heard the last of it. I think, so if Democrats take over again, you know, that yes, you can, you could prosecute people.

6:16They were hoping that that would be enough to, you know, the threat of prosecution would be enough to compel the release of these documents. That didn't seem to work. And so, you know, Epstein and Kanna tried to sue, but the law did not have what's called a private right of action, which means that somebody is allowed to sue to enforce the law. And so that's one thing that this number two version would do is it would allow people to bring a case and say, you need to release this. You haven't. I have standing in court. But yes, it's a huge uphill climb. People need to keep the pressure on.

6:58Emily Jashinsky:Well, let's put this next element up on the screen from the Daily Beast. Embattled Maine Republican senator blasted over Epstein donors. It's true, Susan Collins has people who have donated to the campaign that are in the Epstein files in less than flattering ways, to say the very least, including Leon Black, including who's a—yeah, Jay Lefkowitz, including then you can go on to Peter Thiel. There are several others who are in the files in ways that are less prominent than, for example, Leon Black. Elon Musk gave Susan Collins$2 ,800. Stephen Schwartzman gave to the Super PAC supporting Collins, I think, $3 million, according to the Daily Beast reporting.

7:43Emily Jashinsky:Peter Thiel,$2 ,300. Lefkowitz,$334 to Collins' campaign in 2007. So not a huge one. But I just checked. Graham Plattner was running on Epstein. He was talking about Epstein. The Epstein class. So far, as I've been checking this morning, haven't seen much at all from Troy Jackson on Susan Collins' potential Epstein ties or the donor Epstein ties, which is just a political gift in 2026. If you're running for Senate against somebody with this in their background, it's a real political gift, but so far not much. Let's put D3 up on the screen. This is an article from the Dallas Morning News. You may not know this, but the Republicans decided to host a midterm convention in Dallas that has never really been done before.

8:31Emily Jashinsky:It seems like just a massive fundraising grift that they're trying to do. But this is the headline from Dallas Morning News. Epstein Files Reading Room Bookmobile coming to Dallas during the GOP convention. So obviously, this is the some people have probably heard about these. They're doing these like pop up reading rooms where you can go. Cool art project. Yeah, you can go through the files. as they bring the like bookmobile to you. All the files are just like laid out in front. And so that's coming to the GOP convention. And I think, you know, it's a little thing, but underscores that there's a lot of political juice.

9:05Emily Jashinsky:I mean, most importantly is the substance, but there's a lot of political juice just like being kind of left untapped right now by many Democrats in this story. Yeah, it was gratifying at least to see somebody from the Democratic Party mention Epstein in that Susan Collins article in the Daily Beast that you mentioned. But if you look closer, it was a main state party official. Because one of the criticisms of Jackson's campaign is that it's been pretty heavily taken over by Washington consultants. He got COVID right after he won the nomination. So that's one reason you haven't heard a lot from him.

9:40He says he's launching basically a town hall tour starting basically this week. So we'll see if he has some of the same Epstein fire that Plattner did. From a lot of establishment Democrats, that was a main thing you heard them complain about, Plattner. They said, oh, he's talking about all this Epstein class stuff.

10:03Emily Jashinsky:It's anti-Semitic to talk about the Epstein class. And they wouldn't even, some of them would go to that, but more it's like they just don't, they just think that that's gauche and like, what? Nobody cares. Right, we've got our talking points that we give our senators. Just use them. What they miss is that it's bundled up together with kitchen table issues, right? They think it's just kind of abstract internet controversy, but a lot of people see it as the catch-all for everyone who's making your life that much harder, economically that much harder right now, or is rigging the system against you.

10:39Emily Jashinsky:It's not some like weird, as it was by a lot of Democrats, framed QAnon conspiracy theory for wacko abstract internet freaks. To a lot of people, when you talk about the Epstein class, that hits them as, or if you talk about Epstein in general, that hits them as the people who are rigging the game against you. It's not just some like weird, you know, true crime story. It has real political meaning and connotation for voters. And so that's where I think the D.C. consulting class gets totally wrong. No, I mean, we all know they get things wrong often, but this one in particular, they still don't think I don't think they fully understand why it resonates.

11:22Right. Yeah, I think you're right.

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13:32National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gavir, who's running on kind of his own slate for the Knesset in this upcoming October election, released a campaign ad that is one of the most disturbing you're probably ever going to see. And so disturbing, in fact, that he eventually under pressure deleted it, which is, you know, he is somebody, he is a no apologies, no shame type of politician. So the fact that he did, we can just start rolling it here, suggests the level and intensity of the rage. So it begins with this AI slop of what are a bunch of obese Palestinians being shoved into a concentration camp on a conveyor belt.

14:19And they come out as concentration camp victims, emaciated and crying.

14:29I don't even think we need any analysis of it and why there was such, so much international and domestic

14:37Emily Jashinsky:It looks like a cartoon scene out of the Holocaust. Condemnation of it. Yeah. It's like a cartoon. Quite deliberately so. Quite deliberately so. Yes. Meanwhile, he also even put up E2. I think this was the 15th time that he and his supporters have stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque. which under the status quo agreement is reserved for Muslim worship. Non-Muslims are allowed to visit as part of the agreement, but not supposed to worship there. It's three holy sites there, and they're trying to work out a compromise. With significant eschatological claims to that land, and that's where the millenarian...

15:22Right, he wants to knock down the Dome of the Rock and...

15:24Emily Jashinsky:Rebuild the temple. And that's why it's, I mean, it's kind of the heart of the entire conflict. And particularly, yeah, explain from the evangelical perspective, they want to usher in the apocalypse by building another temple with the red heifer up there? Well, yeah, there are some, I mean, there are some, we've talked about this before, but there are some dispensationalists still out there, evangelical dispensationalists who believe the building of the third temple is essential to bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ. And that's one of the eschatological claims to the land. It also exists, obviously, for certain Jews.

16:00Emily Jashinsky:It exists for certain Muslims. That's why Al-Aqsa is so important for, I mean, what was, October 7th was called Al-Aqsa Flood because they were anxious about the fate of Al-Aqsa because Ben-Gavir had been doing this. Ben-Gavir quite specifically. Yeah, exactly. Right. A couple other quick disturbing updates. Put up E3. This is a drop site story by Murtaza Hussein. So the Ugandan parliament has authorized Ugandan troops to be part of the Board of Peace operation inside Gaza. Murtaza got leaked documents showing that Israel, and particularly Elbit Systems, their largest weapons maker, has been working with the Ugandan security forces for several years now in developing drone technology there.

16:57So the Ugandan government's use of surveillance drones has rapidly expanded as a result of their collaboration. This was the kind of thing, creating these kinds of relationships was the kind of thing that Jeffrey Epstein was doing when he was alive. And so one thing it shows is that while Epstein was kind of a central player in a lot of this, he was by no means indispensable. that the same things are continuing to go on in his absence. I did want to cover also this situation unfolding in Gaza where the Israelis have banned kite flying.

17:42Emily Jashinsky:Yes, I saw you. And so people are probably familiar with Reifat Al-Arir's legendary poem, If I Must Die, which the heart of it is about him living on in a boy flying a kite. If you want to go reread that poem, you'll see flying a kite has become kind of culturally central to a lot of Palestinians in Gaza. You can imagine why. It represents in open-air prison at least a momentary sense of liberation. And so a couple of kites were found in Nahal Oz, the kibbutz, one of the closest kibbutzes to Gaza. And the residents there panicked and said, we need to put a stop to these kites. And so video went viral of a young Palestinian boy You can put up E4, abiding by this rule that all of these kites that he made himself have to be destroyed.

18:59And he's already living, as you can tell, in pretty unbearable conditions. That video made the rounds so thoroughly around the world that the IDF responded to it. So let's play E5 here.

19:43While they didn't contain explosives, the IDF is taking precautionary measures to prevent any potential threat. Since the October 7th massacre, we made a promise to prevent any threat to our civilians, and we will take any precautionary measures in order to do so. So while these kites may seem innocent, don't forget, we're operating against a terrorist organization who will go to any length in order to threaten our civilians. That's what we're operating against. Okay.

20:08Emily Jashinsky:Well, they didn't contain any explosives. Right. So while these kites may seem innocent, it's quite a line. They may seem to be kites. Kites. But, and just really quickly, yesterday, the Israeli forces launched a raid into Gaza City. You can put up these six. There's a ceasefire. Like, Israel signed a ceasefire with Hamas. They launched a raid into Gaza City. they were discovered amid that raid they said they were trying to capture somebody from Hamas how you can do that in the midst of a ceasefire that you've agreed to is beyond me uh and so then there was a shootout Israel responded with an extraordinary campaign of bombing around their forces uh so that they could extract them successfully they claimed they took somebody out.

21:10Meanwhile, they bombed a bus filled with kindergarteners in the process of this raid that is conducted in the middle of a ceasefire. Anyway, those are the latest updates out of Gaza and Israel. The election is still scheduled for October 27th.

21:36Emily Jashinsky:Thanks, Ryan, for breaking that down for us. All right. Move on, Elon Musk.

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23:44Emily Jashinsky:Elon Musk zoomed into the G20 in Asheville, North Carolina yesterday and made some predictions, depending on your point of view towards AI, that are either dire or very, very exciting. Let's take a listen. Probably by the end of next year. So as I'm sure people know, AI is already incredibly good at software. And it's getting to the point where AI won't just be good at software, it'll be what I call Stockfish level good. So Stockfish is a chess program that can beat the world's best chess players very easily. In fact, at this point, you could run Stockfish on your phone and beat Magnus Carlsen at chess.

24:30So in some way, next year is my prediction. Software will be so good, AI software will be so good that it will be Stockfish level good, meaning that it is impossible for a human to compete in writing software with AI. But like AI will just crush all humans and software. And I think it will be extremely good, possibly stock-based level, but certainly extremely good at all forms of engineering and anything digital, literally in 12 to 18 months.

25:04Emily Jashinsky:Brian, does that make you really excited about the future or a little anxious? Maybe both. I mean, pretty incredible that we've been telling people for 20 years to learn to code. Yep. And then telling them that actually learning to code is completely useless. Actually, I just pulled this up from Yale, a recent article on Yale's website where, yes, we're hearing right now unemployment. If you're not counting people out of the job market who just dropped out of the job market, those numbers have gone up. But unemployment is at a fairly healthy level. But if you zero into particular careers, it's way less healthy.

25:43Emily Jashinsky:So they say nowhere is this clearer long-term consequences. Nowhere is this clearer than an entry-level software engineering, though the picture depends on whom you ask. One researcher discovered that employment among developers aged 22 to 25 has fallen nearly 20 percent from its late 2022 peak. The online job site indeed also paints a stark picture. Software development job postings have fallen 53 percent, 53 percent from the same starting point. And so not only are the technological ramifications kind of in the abstract somewhat chilling that you might have this capacity without proper restraints, but also the economic ramifications staring right back at us.

26:22Emily Jashinsky:And it doesn't seem that there's much of a plan to deal with that whatsoever. We can put the Barron's article about this up on the screen. Their headline was Elon Musk sees a power crisis coming. Another takeaways from his G20 speech. He bet in the speech—this is one of the other big takeaways from it—he bet in his speech that there will be one billion humanoid robots operating in 10 years and that those robots will be five times as productive as humans, according to Barron. So now take this computing power prediction he made, combine it with the one billion humanoid robot prediction that he made, and ask yourself why it is people might be a little less than bought in on the data center hyperscale.

27:08Yeah, seems pretty straightforward.

27:10Emily Jashinsky:Doesn't it? They're talking like this. Amadei kind of trying to walk back his 50 % of white collar jobs will be wiped out prediction, but not entirely walking it back. Right. And then saying we're going to have humanoid robots with this, like who would be able to basically beat Magnus Carlsen at chess, drop of the hat. I wonder, Ryan, if you've been playing against any of these. Well, I mean, the, the AIs are integrated into the chess, the chess apps. Do you think they're being nice to you? They let you win a couple? Well, you can put it on different levels. Certainly at a decent level. Like Magnussen can't even.

27:49Like he's right. Like they're at a place where not even he can win. Once in a while on like the little like puzzles or something, they'll make a mistake. And that's kind of fun to be able to catch them doing. But otherwise, they're... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

28:06Emily Jashinsky:I mean, again, so he's saying that it's going to crush every human at writing code. is going to be so good at engineering. And this is the timeline that he laid out is 12 to 18 months. And people are wondering why certain communities aren't like, well, okay, great, bring us the tax benefits. Put your hyperscaling data centers over here. And it's like, well, it's because you have shit like this happening where the predictions are that we're going to dramatically change the world in a time period of 12 to 18 months after we just were proven. I mean, look at what just happened to Meta in court, which was an easy settlement.

28:44Emily Jashinsky:They got off easy in that stupid settlement. Not that I blame people for taking the settlement, but they got off easy in that. And parents have seen what these companies have done to their children over the last 20 years. And now they're like, we're on the cusp of dramatically changing life. You'll see it happen in the next 12 to 18 months. There might be significant unemployment. There will be little humanoid robots walking around everywhere. And people are like, maybe don't take up all this farmland for that in my community. Yeah, and I think there is, I think the things do bleed together, but mostly the opposition is around.

29:17People think their power bills are going to go up. They think the water is going to get destroyed. They think they're going to be loud and nasty and ugly and not actually create any jobs. And then as a kind of separate thing, they also might like using ChatGPT, but they don't like the direction of where this is said to be headed. So I think it's somewhat related. Even if they did like the direction of where it was headed, they'd be like, not in my backyard.

29:45Emily Jashinsky:Yeah, and if there were signs that the integration was happening in a more strategic way as opposed to let's throw everything at the wall, see what sticks, Kevin O 'Leary style, because this is all about beating China at the end of the day, I think people would be way more open to it. But it hasn't been – it hasn't felt to people that it's strategic because you have these guys out there talking about, well, maybe this, maybe that in these like catastrophic – like being flippant about catastrophic changes to society that they're really optimistic about. But to other people sound like risks and change they're not willing to accept in such a short time period because this is moving faster than social media ever did.

30:29Emily Jashinsky:It's moving faster than the other technologies ever did. So, yeah, I mean, again, the fact that they still continue to talk like this publicly and then marvel at the opposition to data centers and the lack of trust that people have towards tech in a low institutional trust society across the board. It's ridiculous. And I also think the talking point of we have to beat China assumes people care about that. Yes, agree. And understand what that even means. Got to beat China. OK, why? Right. We don't care about China. What's China going to do? Make the argument. But they don't even make the argument.

31:05Emily Jashinsky:They just use the talking point. Yeah, I mean, and maybe there are some real risks there, but it's not obvious why I'm supposed to GAF about China. Because people don't trust you. Not you personally, Ryan. But they shouldn't. The nation trusts you. They shouldn't trust me. Yes. All right. Well, that does it for us on today's edition of Breaking Points. We're going to do a quick AMA session. Not quick. Usually they're fairly long. We go on and on and on. You'd be surprised to hear. You would be surprised. And that's where if you head to breakingpoints.com and do a free month-long trial of the show, you get access to the AMAs.

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