How To Dig a Train Tunnel Under the Hudson River (from HISTORY This Week)

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Podcast Episode Summary: How To Dig a Train Tunnel Under the Hudson River

Podcast Overview Podcast Title: Business History Hosts: Jacob Goldstein and Robert Smith Description: The podcast explores the surprising stories of businesses, their founders, and the lessons learned through their historical journeys.

Episode Details Episode Title: How To Dig a Train Tunnel Under the Hudson River Date: February 14, 1905 Description: This episode recounts the challenges faced by the Pennsylvania Railroad in constructing a tunnel beneath the Hudson River to transport trains into Manhattan.

Key Themes and Concepts

  • Historical Context
  • The Pennsylvania Railroad was the largest corporation in the world at the turn of the 20th century.
  • The need for a tunnel arose from the inefficiency of transferring passengers to ferries in New Jersey to access Manhattan.
  • Engineering Challenges
  • The Hudson River's muddy, boulder-filled riverbed posed significant obstacles to construction.
  • A notable incident occurred on February 14, 1905, when a dynamite explosion caused a sinkhole that swallowed a locomotive, highlighting the project's difficulties.
  • Alexander Cassatt's Leadership
  • Alexander Cassatt, president of the Pennsylvania Railroad, was determined to find a solution to connect his trains with New York City.
  • He initially proposed an enormous bridge, but after discovering its prohibitive costs, he pivoted to a tunnel solution inspired by advancements in electric train technology observed during a trip to France.
  • Construction Techniques
  • The tunnel was constructed simultaneously from both sides of the river, employing innovative methods like the use of compressed air to prevent flooding.
  • The "Great Head Shield," a large tunneling machine, facilitated the digging process, while workers, referred to as "sandhogs," navigated the challenging underground conditions.
  • Political and Financial Hurdles
  • The project faced political resistance from Tammany Hall, a powerful political machine in New York, which initially stalled approvals.
  • After persistent efforts from Cassatt and the railroad, the project received necessary permissions, albeit with political implications.
  • Final Connection and Legacy
  • In 1906, the two sides of the tunnel successfully met with remarkable precision—within one-eighth of an inch.
  • Penn Station opened in 1910, revolutionizing transportation and paving the way for electric trains, drastically improving air quality and efficiency.
  • Modern Implications
  • The Hudson River tunnels, now over 115 years old, are critical infrastructure, serving over 200,000 passengers daily.
  • Current efforts aim to rehabilitate the aging tunnels, highlighting ongoing challenges in maintaining and upgrading essential transport systems.

Notable Guests

  • Polly Desjarlais: Content and Research Manager at the New York Transit Museum.
  • Jill Jonnes: Author of *Conquering Gotham: A Gilded Age Epic: The Construction of Penn Station and Its Tunnels*.
  • Andy Sparberg: Former LIRR manager and transit historian.

Conclusion This episode of *Business History* not only recounts an engineering triumph but also reflects on the interplay of technology, politics, and infrastructure development in American history. The legacy of the Hudson River tunnels underscores the importance of innovation and resilience in overcoming challenges faced by businesses.

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Introduction to History This Week

1:29 to 2:34

Introduction to the History This Week podcast and its focus on the Hudson River tunnel.

“Today we are putting in the feed an episode of a podcast hosted by the great Sally Helm, who Robert and I used to work with at Planet Money and who now hosts a show called History This Week.”

The Problem of Accessing New York

2:34 to 4:50

Exploring the challenges Alexander Cassatt faced to connect trains to New York.

“There is one thing standing between Alexander Cassatt and greatness.”

Engineering Challenges Under the Hudson

4:50 to 7:20

Detailed discussion of the structural challenges of building the tunnel.

“These men, known as the Sand Hogs, have dynamite as one of the tools in their arsenal.”

Cassatt's Return and Tunnel Vision

7:20 to 9:39

Cassatt's return to the Pennsylvania Railroad and his vision for crossing the Hudson.

“In 1900, the only organization in the country with a bigger budget was the federal government.”

Geographical Challenges of New York

9:39 to 10:13

Understanding the geographical challenges of connecting to New York City.

“And pretty immediately, he directs his focus to a mile-wide river, the Hudson.”

Rivalry with the New York Central Railroad

10:13 to 11:44

Exploring the competitive dynamics with the New York Central Railroad.

“reminding us that Manhattan is an island, one of several that makes up New York City.”

Cassatt's Vision for a Grand Bridge

11:44 to 14:02

Cassatt's ambitious plans for a bridge to solve rail access issues.

“was the lone railroad whose passengers came in across a bridge.”

The Challenge of the Hudson Tunnel

14:02 to 14:37

Learn about the initial struggles faced by Alexander Cassatt in crossing the Hudson.

“He doesn't know how to get his trains across the Hudson.”

Inspiration from Paris

14:37 to 16:56

Discover how a visit to Paris inspired Cassatt to find a solution for the Hudson tunnel.

“Alexander Cassatt goes to France to visit his sister, Mary Cassatt, the now legendary Impressionist painter.”

Navigating the Political Landscape

16:56 to 18:19

Understand the political challenges Cassatt faced while planning the tunnel.

“It'll be named after the railroad, Penn Station.”
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The Fight for Approval

18:19 to 19:57

Learn how Cassatt and the Pennsylvania Railroad fought to gain necessary approvals.

“When they do go public, Tammany essentially announces their price.”

Engineering Challenges Underwater

19:57 to 21:30

Explore the complex engineering challenges faced while building the underwater tunnel.

“The Board approves Alexander Cassatt's audacious plan.”

The Great Head Shield and Worker Conditions

21:30 to 23:25

Delve into the technology used and conditions faced by workers during tunneling.

“When you emerged, it was like this hellish, very small space.”

Mysterious Shifting Tunnels

23:25 to 26:23

Investigate the issues of shifting tunnels and concerns over safety during construction.

“He's really worried because they can tell the tunnels are rising and falling and they don't know why.”

The Moment of Truth

26:23 to 28:00

Experience the dramatic moment when the two sides of the tunnel were set to meet.

“slowly oscillating up and down in the muddy riverbed.”

The Moment of Connection

28:00 to 29:08

Learn about the incredible day when the two sides of the tunnel met beneath the Hudson River.

“He gets whooping cough from his granddaughter.”

Challenges of Tunnel Stability

29:08 to 30:58

Discover the challenges faced by the engineers after the tunnel connection, including the mysterious drifting problem.

“Just slide rules, steam engines, and digging.”

Understanding Tunnel Movement

30:58 to 33:09

Understand how tides affect the tunnels and the decision to let them move freely.

“The Hudson River, Alexander Cassatt's great adversary, is kind of not really a river at all in this area.”

The Opening of Penn Station

33:09 to 34:26

Learn about the opening of Penn Station and its transformative impact on New York City.

“a monument of steel and glass and pink granite.”

Modern Challenges for the Tunnels

34:26 to 36:07

Explore the current state of the Hudson River tunnels and the challenges they face today.

“The Hudson River tunnels are now 115 years old.”
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1:40Pushkit. Too quick? No, it was perfect. Pushkit. Stop. You got it. Hey, it's Jacob. Today we are putting in the feed an episode of a podcast hosted by the great Sally Helm, who Robert and I used to work with at Planet Money and who now hosts a show called History This Week. This episode is near to us. It's about the decision that the Pennsylvania Railroad made at the turn of the 20th century to dig a mile-long tunnel under the Hudson River. The project was a gamble, a gamble on new technology and new engineering and new ways of thinking about how people and goods move across continents. And today, the descendants of that tunnel under the Hudson River have become a national political flashpoint.

2:28The show is History This Week. It's from The History Channel, and I hope you like it. The History Channel original podcast. History This Week, February 14th, 1905. I'm Sally Helm.

2:50There is one thing standing between Alexander Cassatt and greatness.

2:59Cassatt is the president of the Pennsylvania Railroad. As of 1900, it is the largest corporation in the world. But his trains can't get into one of the largest cities in the world. New York. They get to New Jersey and can't go any further. Passengers have to get off and catch a ferry to get into Manhattan. And for Alexander Cassatt, this is galling, undignified. It's not befitting of the Great Pennsylvania Railroad. He wants to be able to bring his trains into New York. This will allow him to transport commuters, sure, but also to ultimately connect all of what is today called the Northeast Corridor.

3:45It'll become a vital link in a continuous rail line from Florida to Quebec. The one thing standing in his way is the Hudson River.

4:01The Hudson River in this spot is less than a mile wide. It shouldn't be so difficult to cross. And Alexander Cassatt knows how he wants to do it. With an underground tunnel.

4:17Unfortunately, it turns out to be very, very hard to build a tunnel under the Hudson. The earth is goopy, but there are also random boulders scattered in the mud, left over from glaciers 18 ,000 years earlier. It is an engineering nightmare. And on this day, February 14th, all of those problems become very, very public.

4:49Around 11 a.m., one of the men working underground detonates a stick of dynamite.

4:58That is nothing out of the ordinary. These men, known as the Sand Hogs, have dynamite as one of the tools in their arsenal. one of the ways to get through all that gloopy earth underneath the Hudson. But this time... The ground above them starts rumbling, making a muttering noise. They start to back away, and mud begins to pour through the walls of the tunnel. Then, water.

5:40On the surface in the train yard, two men are pulling coal along some tracks. When suddenly, they see those tracks begin to disappear into the earth. They leap from their posts, just as a whole locomotive is swallowed up by a 50-foot-wide sinkhole.

6:09Thankfully, and surprisingly, no one is killed. The men underground manage to escape. The Weehawken sinkhole is less a tragedy and more just an embarrassment for the Pennsylvania Railroad. One of the largest corporations in world history being stymied by mud. Poor Alexander Cassatt is said to have remarked in frustration that you could see Manhattan from the end of the company's tracks. You just couldn't reach it. We must, he said, find a way to cross. Today, train tunnels under the Hudson. How did an engineer turned horse breeder turned corporate executive overcome seemingly unsolvable technological problems to build these underground tunnels?

7:04And how did they become arguably the most important train tunnels in the world?

7:13The Pennsylvania Railroad was this famous, enormous corporation. In 1900, the only organization in the country with a bigger budget was the federal government. And the Pennsylvania Railroad was said to be a real, actual meritocracy. Alexander Cassatt begins at the bottom, like everyone did in the railroad. That's Jill Jones, a historian who wrote a book about this tunnel project. She said Cassatt started out at the company as a surveyor's assistant, earning a dollar a day. But he had a meteoric rise because the man was brilliant. He had a superhuman memory. He was known to reel off obscure bookkeeping facts off the top of his head.

7:59He was also good with machines. One of his longtime managers said that sometimes Cassatt could be found running a train all on his own while its engineer took a break. Cassatt has a storied career at the company. But at age 42, as vice president of the railroad, he retires to raise and breed horses. Pretty good life. And the alternative? Becoming president of the Pennsylvania Railroad? It did not look all that appealing. The job of president of Pennsylvania was so demanding and so stressful that it was literally referred to as a killing job. Presidents of the Pennsylvania Railroad generally died young in office.

8:46So Cassatt left, and a man named George Roberts was president. And he died. Another man took his place. He died. And the railroad was really struggling, basically because America was booming, and there was so much freight. And they just, they were overwhelmed. So in 1899, the railroad comes to him and asks him to come back as president. Basically, Alexander, you're our only hope. The board literally goes to find him in the field where he is exercising one of his horses. And he agrees. But he says he'll need free reign to improve things, to expand. And pretty immediately, he directs his focus to a mile-wide river, the Hudson.

9:48Cassatt wants his trains to cross it.

9:57America's biggest and most important city at the time, New York, has some geographical features that it can be kind of easy to forget about. We have this wackadoodle place where we're on all these islands. That is Polly Desjardins, content and research manager at the New York Transit Museum, reminding us that Manhattan is an island, one of several that makes up New York City. At this period of time, this is the thing. How are we connecting these places? You know, ferries do it for a while. Yeah, at this point, if you were a passenger on a Pennsylvania railroad train and you wanted to travel to the biggest city in the country, you would have to get off in New Jersey and hop on a ferry.

10:40With all your stuff, with all the other passengers, you'd navigate the crowded river waters, dodging huge steamships and tiny sloops and delivery boats and pleasure yachts. And one of the great surprises to me when I worked on this book was to realize how incredibly crowded the waters were.

11:03But you make it through, and then you get off at West Street, which was just total bedlam. You know, muddy and messy, and the whole thing did not comport with the way the Pennsylvania Railroad saw itself. At least they weren't the only ones. The other railroad companies also had to dump the passengers off in New Jersey and put them on a ferry. all the other companies except for one. It was very, very galling to the Pennsylvania Railroad that their greatest rival, the Vanderbilts and the New York Central Railroad, was the lone railroad whose passengers came in across a bridge. Across a bridge. Much more dignified.

11:56The Vanderbilts and their New York Central Railroad had built a short bridge crossing into Manhattan from the north. Now, the New York Central had nowhere near the national network of the Pennsylvania Railroad. And in some ways, their trains were nothing to be jealous of. These are coal-fired steam locomotives. And if you have not been around such a train, you don't have a clue what that pollution is like. These trains would billow black smoke as they chugged along, getting in everyone's eyes. The Vanderbilt trains did briefly go underground into short tunnels right before pulling into Grand Central Station.

12:37But this could actually create another problem. They were billowing smoke. They were very noisy. That is Andy Sparberg, transit historian and 25-year veteran of the Long Island Railroad. He told us about one particularly horrible incident in these tunnels.

13:01One train rear-ended another because of the lack of visibility. It missed a signal and plowed into the rear of a train that was stopped ahead. Fifteen people were killed. These trains produced so much pollution that they would cloud up the tunnel, making it impossible to see what was in front of them.

13:26Alexander Cassatt has a solution to all of this. A grand bridge across the Hudson. 14 train tracks plus lanes for pedestrians and carriages. 500-foot towers. A span suspended 185 feet in the air to allow huge ships to pass underneath. It would be the largest bridge in the world. Engineering News wrote, The next year, the entire thing is off. Yeah, the price tag was$100 million. Turns out, that's too high. It's now the summer of 1901. And Cassatt is at a loss. He doesn't know how to get his trains across the Hudson. So he takes a trip to France, which is supposed to be a vacation, but turns out to be a work trip.

14:25It is there that he will find his solution.

14:37Alexander Cassatt goes to France to visit his sister, Mary Cassatt, the now legendary Impressionist painter. When he is identified today, he's identified as her brother, which would have been astonishing to people at that time because she did not register at all. While he's there, Alexander gets a message from his vice president, Samuel Ray. He gets a telegraph from Ray saying, you know what, go look at the Gar-Cay d 'Orsay. The d 'Orsay station had just opened in Paris. Today, it has actually been turned into an art museum that houses some Mary Cassatt paintings. But back then, it is a massive palatial train hub.

15:26Seven limestone archways serve as entrances. Sculptures adorn the exterior. Lion's heads, laurel leaves. And inside, there is no smoke. When he saw this, I mean, he got it immediately. The trains pulling into this station are all electric. And they're coming through tunnels along the Seine River, without blinding their conductors with billowing black smoke. Alexander Cassatt sees his future. It's like we, we could come into Manhattan under the river with these electric locomotives.

16:17Cassatt springs into action. On his way home from Europe, he recruits Charles Jacobs, an upbeat Englishman and one of the world's foremost tunneling experts. Along with his vice president, Samuel Ray, they begin to plan. To connect the two coasts of the Hudson with an underground tunnel. They'll start on both sides of the river simultaneously. And they will come at each other to meet in the middle, far below the riverbed. This tunnel will lead to a new train station as monumental as the one in Paris. It'll be named after the railroad, Penn Station. At first, the company is operating in secrecy.

17:05Partly because they're buying up all this land for Penn Station and they want to get a good deal. People might demand more if they know what it's for. But also because they want to stay beneath the notice of the vast political machine that runs New York. Tammany Hall. Tammany was just, it was a never-ending search for bribes and boodle and, you know, rake-off and whatever. Tammany Hall has been in power for a long time, but they have actually just recently suffered a setback. They were caught rigging the city's ice market. Ice is the main method of refrigeration at this time. And when people find out that Tammany is making money off ice while the common man's food spoils, there's an uproar.

17:50So much so that New York elects a mayor who isn't in Tammany's pocket, a reformer named Seth Lowe. But Lowe doesn't control the city's board of aldermen, a.k.a. the 40 Thieves. It actually has 79 members, and they're not all thieves, but Tammany has a majority in their pocket. And the Pennsylvania Railroad will need permission from the 40 Thieves to build their station. When they do go public, Tammany essentially announces their price. They let it be known that the bribe or the boodle would be$300 ,000. But Alexander Cassatt is not having it. He's like, I am not paying that. This project is going to be a huge deal for New York.

18:41Like, it would be absurd to kill it. The proposal goes before the board of aldermen. And they vote it down. No boodle, no approval. But Tammany, remember, is a little bit on the outs, and people get really mad about this. The New York Times. There is not an honest hair in the head of one of them, meaning the alderman. Scientific American. One of the most shame-faced exhibitions of political tyranny that ever disgraced the city. And Cassatt turns up the pressure. The Pennsylvania Railroad has said, look, if you don't give us this franchise by this date, that's it, because we have invested all this money and we cannot sit around.

19:24So if you don't give us this, we're gone and we're sorry, but, you know, we were very straight with you. And New York City really does want this project. The reform-minded mayor, Seth Lowe, takes some of the aldermen out on his personal yacht to woo them. He writes each of them a heartfelt letter for their yes votes. And on December 16th, 1902, the Board of Aldermen needs to vote again.

19:51And just enough of the 40 thieves break ranks with Tammany. The Board approves Alexander Cassatt's audacious plan.

20:05I feel like today, building an underwater tunnel sounds like, oh yeah, I don't know, we probably have technology to do that. But this was actually so, so hard. I mean, think about it. The tunnel is underwater. How do you build that without getting flooded? What they did was pump compressed air into the tunnel as they built it. So the water is pushing in, but the air is pushing back out. That worked. But it made for a very specific and dangerous environment.

20:48If you want access to the Hudson River Tunnel site in 1903, first you take an elevator.

21:03You walked out and into the airlock where you would sit for 15 minutes while it filled up with compressed air and you got acclimated. If you didn't do that, you might get the bends, like what scuba divers can get. If you go down too quickly, you can get intense ear pain and brain fog, if you come up too quickly, dangerous bubbles can form in your blood. When you emerged, it was like this hellish, very small space. The workers, the sandhogs, are pushing the tunnel forward inch by inch. It was really wet, really muddy, and really chaotic under the tunnels. I mean, it was a very controlled, orchestrated chaos.

21:59At the very front of the tunnel space is this giant piece of machinery called the Great Head Shield. It almost looks like a piece of a rocket ship or something. Essentially, you have workers within this shield. Polly Desjardins. They are picking away, digging shovels, pickaxes, whatever. These compartments open up at the front of the shield, letting the workers clear all the silt and rock. Once that's out of the way, they install these rings. Sections of cast iron, which was the tunnel lining, and then they would sort of rivet all of those together. Once the tunnel walls are in place, the great head shield activates these huge hydraulic jacks and lurches forward.

22:51Two and a half feet. And the workers start the whole process over again.

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23:01And there's really no margin for error. Because remember, they're building both sides of the tunnel at once from opposite shores. And they're going to meet in the middle. So if the alignment gets a little off, they're going to be in big trouble. And in the spring of 1906, the engineers noticed something. Samuel Ray, vice president of the railroad, writes a secret memo to his boss, Cassatt. He's really worried because they can tell the tunnels are rising and falling and they don't know why.

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26:16Spring 1906. The tunnels under the Hudson are mysteriously shifting, slowly oscillating up and down in the muddy riverbed. And nobody knows what's going on. Not Cassatt, not Ray, not even Charles Jacobs, the tunnel savant. It looks like the tunnel haters might have had a point. Many, many people, engineers and so forth, basically said you cannot safely build railroad tunnels that will be carrying 700-ton trains in tunnels like this. No one had ever built tunnels through goop like this. so long, etc., etc., etc. So, you know, this was the nightmare scenario always hanging over rays in Cassatt's head.

27:09Would the tunnels be safe? And when they saw them moving up and down, I mean, that was really disturbing. They're like, okay, we gotta figure this out. Well, maybe because, you know, the riverbed that they're tunneling through is so soupy, they need to have heavier rings. The rounded rings, these pieces of the tunnel that they're slowly putting in place, maybe they need to be stronger. So that's the next thing they do. They make heavier rings. That doesn't work. The tunnels are still drifting. Cassatt's under a lot of stress. He's up in Bar Harbor where he has a so-called cottage. It's actually a very nice big house.

27:53But what is supposed to be a vacation turns into another obstacle for Alexander Cassatt. He gets whooping cough from his granddaughter. Cassatt is stuck in Maine, recovering. Meanwhile, the two sides of the tunnel are getting closer and closer, until the big day finally arrives.

28:19September 1906. The two sides of the tunnel are set to meet in the middle of the Hudson River. The engineers have tried to account for the drifting in their calculations, and today, they'll see if it worked. The sandhogs on the New York side push a pipe through the front of their tunnel shield. And sure enough, they can see and hear the New Jersey sandhogs on the other side. The Jersey guys send a box of cigars back through the pipe, conceding that the New Yorkers had beat them to the middle by a few feet. And when the two great head shields actually make contact? The tunnels have met within one-eighth of an inch.

29:09It's just so, so incredible. No computers. No digital anything. Just slide rules, steam engines, and digging. Of course, the crew has to celebrate. It's very cute. The engineers, the reporters, the sand hogs, they all march across and emerge in Manhattan. Whereupon, they go to Delmonico's and have a riotous celebratory lunch involving a lot of throwing of bread and food and what have you. But a few people are conspicuously missing. Samuel Ray, the VP of the railroad, is too anxious about the tunnel-drifting mystery to attend. Even though the two sides are now connected, they still aren't stabilized.

30:03And Alexander Cassatt is still up in Bar Harbor. And, you know, next thing you know, on December 28th, 1906, the seventh president of the Pennsylvania Railroad dies in office. The killing job strikes again. Alexander Cassatt is 67 years old.

30:29Samuel Ray doesn't take over as Pennsylvania Railroad president, because at this rate, who would want to? But he does take charge of the tunnel project. And he is determined to solve this tunnel-drifting mystery. Alexander Cassatt won't live to see a train pass underneath the Hudson, but Ray is going to make it happen. He and his crew put in a special gauge to monitor the movement more closely. And it all becomes clear. It's such a... It's so logical. The tunnels are moving with the tides. The Hudson River, Alexander Cassatt's great adversary, is kind of not really a river at all in this area.

31:20It's more of an estuary. So the tides of the Atlantic Ocean are pushing the water back and forth. When the tides are highest, the tunnels are lowest, because the weight of the water is literally pressing them further down into the earth. It's so amazing, you know, that it can move these incredibly heavy tunnels up and down.

31:49Samuel Ray now has to figure out what to do. And he decides to do nothing. Rather than spend millions to anchor the tunnels to the bedrock, he'll just let them move, like a suspension bridge or a skyscraper flexing in the wind. He looks into it, and he feels confident that it will be safe. But nevertheless, he doesn't advertise this decision. When I was researching this book, I realized this was the great secret about the tunnels. No one ever knew any of this. It was just absolutely kept silent. And then they start sending test trains through, and the tunnels seem to be holding. Can you imagine what Ray must have felt?

32:43I mean, there was no way to know until the trains went through. And I mean, honestly, probably until the station was open and hundreds of trains were going through and months had gone by and years had gone by to really, really know that the tunnels would not crack. The tunnels do not crack. Penn Station opens to the public in November of 1910, a monument of steel and glass and pink granite. The tunnels are open. The Pennsylvania Railroad has crossed the Hudson. It really transforms the whole area of New York, really opens it up to people and makes people's lives, you know, a lot easier and a lot better.

33:32What was once considered rural land in the surrounding regions now has direct rail access to the biggest city in America. In 1917, the Hellgate Bridge opens, establishing that continuous rail line from Florida to Canada. Plus, the new trains are electric, clean. No more spewing black smoke. The United States has entered the modern age of train travel. The monumental Penn Station is actually torn down in the mid-1960s to make way for Madison Square Garden. And in 1968, the Pennsylvania Railroad ceases to exist altogether, ironically merging with Vanderbilt's New York Central. Today, the reworked Penn Station exists entirely underground.

34:25It is the busiest rail station in North America. The Hudson River tunnels are now 115 years old. They carry more than 200 ,000 passengers every day. Here's Polly Desjardins. It is the lifeblood. This is a very overused term, and it is a bit clichéd. But it is true that transportation powers this region. We can't do what we do without it. But these old tunnels are a little the worse for wear. Here's Andy Sparberg. In 2012, Superstorm Sandy damaged him terribly because water rushed in and went into the tunnels. And that's brackish salt water, damaged the electrical components, the signals, the roadbed.

35:14It took a while to make some rudimentary repairs, but eventually, you know, those tunnels need to be rebuilt. At this point, the tunnels are deeply embedded into the economy. Patchwork fixes have kept them going, but their failure would be a catastrophe. And the project to fix them has started. It is the largest public works project in America. The Trump administration has been locked in a legal battle in an attempt to withhold the funding. But if the money is there, the plan is to build two new tunnels next to the old ones. And many of Alexander Cassatt's challenges still apply. The tunnels, basically, they still have to go into the same river, and they've got to get into the same station that's still there.

36:01So it's a project on the scale of the original project, no question about it. Turns out, it's not that much easier to build tunnels in the Hudson 125 years later. The riverbed is still goopy, and there are now even more buildings and pipes and subways to work around when you're tunneling into Penn Station. But once the two new tunnels are finished, workers will turn their attention to rehabilitating the old ones. If all goes according to plan, the tunnels that first opened in 1910 should be ready again by 2038.

36:51This is our first episode of the new season of History This Week, so you can expect more never-before-heard stories just like this one hitting your feed every Monday. And thank you so much to all of our listeners. Some of you have been with us all six years of the show. And some of you are new. Welcome. History This Week is a Back Pocket Studios production in partnership with the History Channel. To stay updated on all things History This Week, sign up at historythisweekpodcast.com. And follow us on Instagram at historythisweekpodcast. If you have any thoughts or questions, send us an email at historythisweekathistory.com.

37:27Special thanks to our guests. Polly Desjardins, content and research manager at the New York Transit Museum. Jill Jones, historian and author of Conquering Gotham, Building Penn Station and Its Tunnels. And Andy Sparberg, retired Long Island Railroad Manager, transit historian, and author of From a Nickel to a Token, The Journey from Board of Transportation to MTA. This episode was produced and sound designed by Ben Dickstein, who loves trains. It was also produced by me, Sally Helm. I like trains too. For BackPocket Studios, our executive producer is Ben Dickstein. From the History Channel, our executive producers are Eli Lehrer and Liv Fidler.

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February 14, 1905. A stick of dynamite detonates under the Hudson River — and the ground above swallows a locomotive whole. It's the latest setback in an audacious plan to tunnel beneath the river and bring trains into Manhattan. The Pennsylvania Railroad is the largest corporation in the world, but the goopy riverbed keeps fighting back. How did they finally break through? And why are these 115-year-old tunnels still the most critical infrastructure in America?

Special thanks to our guests: Polly Desjarlais, content and research manager at the New York Transit Museum; Jill Jonnes, author of Conquering Gotham: A Gilded Age Epic: The Construction of Penn Station and Its Tunnels; and Andy Sparberg, former LIRR manager, transit historian, and author of From a Nickel to a Token: The Journey from Board of Transportation to MTA.

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