Ida Tarbell: The "Muckraker" Who Beat John D Rockefeller and Big Oil

10 Jun 2026 · 46 min · 15 chapters

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In short

Ida Tarbell’s “muckraking” campaign against Standard Oil and the rise of antitrust trust-busting in the early 1900s, framed as a backlash to Gilded Age laissez-faire corporate power.

Guests

No podcast guests appear. Hosts are Jacob Goldstein and Robert Smith (co-host/producer).

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Not applicable—only hosts are present.

Key claims

Standard Oil used vertical integration and efficiency to thrive, but also used railroad rebates, discriminatory shipping rates, coercion (“Cleveland Massacre”), document shredding/espionage, and “bogus” independent operators to smother competition. Tarbell’s meticulous documentary reporting helped shift public thinking about monopoly abuse, enabling Theodore Roosevelt’s trust-busting (rebate restrictions, antitrust enforcement, DOJ suit).

Notable examples

Standard Oil’s 90% refining control; Cleveland Massacre (buying 22 of 26 refineries in six weeks); Tarbell finding a railroad-investigation report removed via bounties; office-boy document furnace incident; Puck cartoon “Next” (Standard Oil octopus reaching the White House); DOJ allegations leading to Supreme Court breakup into dozens of companies (including Exxon and Mobil).

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Ida Tarbell and the Backlash Against Big Business

2:25 to 4:00

Ida Tarbell's role in exposing corporate power and capitalism issues.

“I just want to sing a song every time I hear it.”

The Rise of John D. Rockefeller

4:00 to 7:37

How Rockefeller became a dominant figure in the oil industry.

“Rockefeller working as a merchant in Cleveland.”

The Cleveland Massacre

7:37 to 10:00

The aggressive tactics used by Rockefeller to eliminate competition.

“And that is a tension, maybe the tension at the heart of this story and at the heart of this backlash that we're going to get to.”

Ida Tarbell's Early Life and Influences

10:00 to 14:01

Ida's upbringing and the impact of Rockefeller's actions on her family.

“So let's talk about our protagonist now, Ida Tarbell.”

Ida's Early Life and Ambitions

14:01 to 20:02

Learn about Ida Tarbell's formative experiences and aspirations as a young woman.

“And the news of that Standard Oil sweetheart deal with the railroads leaks.”

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20:03 to 21:06

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“If your business runs on five different apps, 12 browser tabs, and one spreadsheet that everyone's afraid to touch, it's probably time for Odoo.”

Ida Tarbell Joins McClure's Magazine

21:06 to 28:03

Explore Ida's transition to McClure's magazine and her impact on journalism.

“Ida Tarbell is going to work for this new magazine, McClure's.”

Ida Tarbell Meets Henry Rogers

28:03 to 28:48

Ida Tarbell's initial meeting with Standard Oil's Henry Rogers, highlighting their unexpected rapport.

“There are no PR crisis firms yet, but they have a guy.”

The PR Game of Standard Oil

28:48 to 29:56

Discussing the PR strategies employed by Standard Oil and their implications.

“Henry is like, how'd you get interested in oil?”

Depth of Tarbell's Investigative Reporting

29:56 to 32:35

Exploring Ida Tarbell's extensive research and findings about Standard Oil's practices.

“She travels through Washington, Pennsylvania, Ohio.”
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Ida Tarbell's Story Unfolds

32:35 to 36:25

A detailed account of Tarbell's findings and the moral implications of Standard Oil's actions.

“She says, like, what is going on with these rebates in the railroads?”

Tarbell's Call to Action

36:25 to 37:40

Ida Tarbell's message against monopolies and her call for public action.

“And so her book closes with a call to action.”

Political Cartoons and Ida Tarbell

42:00 to 43:58

Explore the significance of a 1904 political cartoon and its relation to Ida Tarbell's work against Standard Oil.

“Robert, I know you love an old-timey political cartoon.”

Roosevelt's Trust-Busting Campaign

43:58 to 46:46

Learn about Theodore Roosevelt's antitrust efforts against Standard Oil and the implications for competition in the market.

“And the case lays out a lot of what Ida Tarbell talked about in her stories in her book.”

Ida Tarbell's Legacy

46:46 to 47:16

Understand how Ida Tarbell's work reshaped public perception of monopolies and capitalism in America.

“And by the way, this is a person who, because she is a woman, can't vote, can't hold most business jobs who is doing this.”
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1:07Ida Tarbell:Robert Smith, my favorite history in the history of business is what? It's the Gilded Age. Yes, late 1800s in America. Incredible period. Profound transformation of life. New technologies. Giant, giant corporations like the world has never seen before. Or you got monopolization in one sector after another. You got rich guys getting richer than rich guys have ever gotten. Railroads. And the U.S. government was basically fine with all of it. Just let it go. That was the attitude. Until the early 1900s, when there was this really profound change, when America kind of all of a sudden, kind of not, decided, you know what, there's like a little bit too much laissez and not an affair.

1:57Ida Tarbell:And a key driver of this change of mindset, the person who did as much as anybody to make it happen, was a journalist. Huzzah. A writer. Her name was Ida Tarbell. My name is Jacob Goldstein. My name is Robert Smith, and you are listening to Business History. It's a show about the history of business. Thanks for asking. This is the second in our series. It's a three-part series, a great number of parts for a series. We're calling it American Genius. I just want to sing a song every time I hear it. American Genius. American Genius. What's our series about, Robert? It's about writers who change the way America thinks about money and about business.

2:38Last week, we talked about Ben Franklin, who created a model, an ethic, really a way of living that set America on a course to capitalistic success.

2:49Ida Tarbell:This week, we're talking about the backlash. By the time Ida Tarbell came along, the capitalists had succeeded so wildly that they threatened to destroy the very thing that made them great, the free market, the bedrock of capitalism. And so Ida Tarbell, as a journalist, showed America the problems with corporate power in capitalism. And I really think it's fair to say that she helped the country figure out how to solve some of those problems. Ida Minerva Tarbell. Her middle name is not Minerva. That's what Nelly said. I didn't double check it. Don't need to. Had a big world-changing project at the heart of her career.

3:31Ida Tarbell:It was a series of articles in the early 1900s about John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. At the time, John D. Rockefeller was about to become the richest man in the world. Standard Oil controlled something like 90 % of oil refining in the United States. And so before we get to Ida Tarbell and how she came to this project, let's just like set the stage with a little bit of John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. Well, 1860, John D. Rockefeller working as a merchant in Cleveland. Doesn't get any more business history than that. And there is a boom in this new thing called kerosene. Hmm. Better way to light oil lamps.

4:12Ida Tarbell:Rather than whales? Rather than whale oil, yes. Whale oil was expensive and dirty. And you had to get the whales. And you had to get the whales. I don't think people cared about the whales at the time, but whale oil was, in fact, very bad for whales. We care about whales now. Kerosene was better, brighter, cheaper. Didn't have to kill the whales. So Rockefeller sees this happening, and he gets into the petroleum business. Specifically, he gets into the oil refining business to turn petroleum into kerosene. And Cleveland, where he was based, was a good place to be in this business. It was close to Pennsylvania, where the big oil fields were at the time.

4:47Ida Tarbell:And the big rail lines went to Cleveland. And also Cleveland was on Lake Erie. Of course, we know, because this is business history, that there was an Erie Canal. so you could ship a kerosene out from Cleveland, out to the East Coast, and to Europe. And to New York, yeah. And to New York. John D. Rockefeller was both a very clever and a very ruthless businessman. Do the clever part first. He vertically integrated, for one thing. Built his own barrels instead of having to buy or rent barrels. Saved a lot of money. um also most of his arrivals the other refiners would refine oil into kerosene which was what everybody wanted but then you still had a lot of like sludge left yeah just so people know uh crude oil you can fractionally refine all the different parts of the oil out of it so you had very pure kerosene what we call now jet fuel and then we had sludge and regular gasoline all this stuff yeah Yeah.

5:48Ida Tarbell:And, you know, there was no internal combustion engine to speak of at this point. Right. So there's not a lot of demand for things other than kerosene. But part of Rockefeller's cleverness was to see that he could gain efficiencies by refining more of it. So his rivals were dumping this sludge in the river or whatever. And of course, Rockefeller didn't care about the river, but he cared about saving money. And so he would refine more of the sludge and, for example, use it as gasoline that he could fuel his plant with. And so he's doing well. He's running this efficient business. And in 1870, Rockefeller and a few partners created Standard Oil of Ohio.

6:27Ida Tarbell:I guess American oil was taken? Standard. I mean, standard. It doesn't get any more standard than that, right? It was already the biggest refiner in the country at this point, but it was a very fragmented market. And it was a tough time to be in the oil refining business because it actually wasn't that hard to build refinery. Everybody was getting in on it. Rockefeller's line was the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker began to refine oil. Very useful for the candlestick maker. It's true. It's right there. I guess maybe he's getting into the lamp business. But Robert Smith, what happens when suddenly everybody gets into a commodity business?

7:03Ida Tarbell:Are we going to do this in every episode? Every episode. Tell me. The price falls. Yes. Yes. The price falls. There is a glut. But the price falls by more than half, which is wonderful if you're using kerosene to light your lamp out on the prairie. But it's terrible if you're selling kerosene. Rockefeller called it ruinous competition. In other words, competition. Yes, in other words, competition. You know, we've sort of touched on this a little bit, but you know what capitalists hate? Competition? Capitalism. They hate market capitalism. There's a funny thing about that, that like a market capitalism makes things better for a lot of people, but not for the people selling the stuff.

7:44They want to have a monopoly.

7:45Ida Tarbell:Yes. And that is a tension, maybe the tension at the heart of this story and at the heart of this backlash that we're going to get to. And now we're going to do the ruthless Rockefeller. He's got this problem, competition, that he's going to solve. Cheap, cheap kerosene? Come on. We can't let that happen. It's bad for America. Let's think of the jobs. So his first big move is he makes a deal with the railroads, right? Transport costs are a big part of this business. And he's already the biggest player. And he says to the railroads, okay, give standard oil a bulk discount because we move so much oil and kerosene on your lines, right?

8:26Ida Tarbell:Oh, and by the way, why don't you pay for the discount you're giving us? By charging extra to our rivals, to the other refineries. News of the deal leaks out, and then Rockefeller goes to his competitors and is like, look, you're screwed. Like, here, here, this is a version of the pitch. Give it to us. You can't compete with the standard. We have all the large refineries now. If you refuse to sell, it will end in your being crushed. Just facts, facts, facts. And in 1872, when this is happening, there were 26 different refineries in Cleveland. Rockefeller goes out with these facts, and in a six-week span, he buys up 22 of them.

9:07Ida Tarbell:They called it the Cleveland Massacre. And he did give good jobs to a lot of the executives at the companies he bought. In his mind, he is being a sort of efficient businessman. It's not illegal at this time, or at least not enforced. Probably not illegal, certainly not enforced. Although, importantly, wildly unpopular. This particular deal gets out in public. People go bananas and it gets canceled. This deal with the railroads doesn't go through. But by the time it gets canceled, the Cleveland massacre has already happened. Rockefeller has done his roll up. Interestingly, Ida Tarbell is 14 years old at this time.

9:49Ida Tarbell:And she didn't know it at the time. But John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil were already affecting her. They were already changing her life in a way she wouldn't fully understand for decades. So let's talk about our protagonist now, Ida Tarbell. Give her a middle name, Jacob. Ida Minerva Tarbell was born in a log cabin in rural Pennsylvania, and she loved it. Robert Smith, a little bit from her autobiography. No home in which I've ever lived has left me with pleasanter memories of itself. There were turkeys and ducks and chickens and lambs and colts and calves and kittens and puppies. Never could I be without playmates.

10:28There were trees and woods and flowers in the summer and a great fireplace with popcorn and maple candy in the winter. I mean, was it really that good?

10:36Ida Tarbell:I don't know. Maybe she certainly remembered it very fondly. It sounds awesome. It does sound awesome. It was her grandmother's cabin and her dad, Franklin Tarbell. He was a carpenter and he went off to Iowa. The family was going to move to Iowa. He was going to build a house. But there was a financial panic, panic of 1857, not even one of my top three 19th century panics. But things were terrible in Iowa. And Franklin Tarbell wound up walking back from Iowa to Pennsylvania. I guess that's what you did. Yeah, sure. And he moved the family from this idyllic cabin to the outskirts of a town called Pithole.

11:15Ida Tarbell:Pithole, Pennsylvania. Did it sound bad at the time? Because it sounds bad now. It doesn't sound like a place that has kittens and puppies and calves and popcorn and maple candy. You know what it had? You know what it had, as the name kind of suggests? Oil. Had oil. And 1859 was the first oil boom in America. Oil came out of the rocks in this part of Pennsylvania. It seeped up out of the rocks and people would like rub it on their bodies and whatever before kerosene was a thing. But in 1859, people started to drill for it. They realized you could drill for oil. And so you get this oil boom town in Pithole and this town called Titusville, where Ida ends up living when she gets a little older.

12:00Ida Tarbell:Give me a description here from her autobiography of what it was like. Not as romantic. Fountain wells, gushers, spouters, they called them, from the great streams, which rose straight into the air one to 200 feet to fall in an oily green-black spray over the surrounding landscape. Pithole was a little bit of a shithole, turns out. It was dirty with oil. They dumped a lot of it into the rivers. Rivers occasionally burst into flames. I'd actually tell this one story of one day when everybody's sitting around and somebody runs up and it's like, Oil! There's a gusher! There's a fresh strike on the edge of town.

12:34Ida Tarbell:And so everybody runs to see the gusher. And I guess a lot of people are smoking, like, I don't know, corncob pipes or little mini cigars or something. Robert Smith, what's going to happen? Read us from the autobiography. The earth was rocked by a mighty explosion. A careless light had ignited the gas, which had spread from the flowing oil until it had enveloped everything in the vicinity. Before my father reached the place, 19 men, among them his friend, the well-owner, had been burned to death. quite the end of this little story. It's a few hours later. Tarbells are back at their house, and they hear something outside.

13:07Ida Tarbell:They realize that somebody's stumbling around in the dark. So Ida's parents go to check it out. They saw before them a terrible sight, a man burned and swollen beyond recognition and yet alive. My mother took him in for weeks. Thanks to her care, the man lived. So, Pithole not so idyllic, in fact, as one suspected. But it is booming. It is booming. You can say for it, the economy is good. And Franklin Tarbell, Ida's dad, prospered. Sure, time is money. Time is money. And he is working. He starts out building barrels because he's a carpenter, gets into the oil business himself, builds a nice little house for the family in a town called Titusville.

13:52Ida Tarbell:And this is when Ida Tarbell crosses paths with John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. It's 1872. You're the Cleveland Massacre. And the news of that Standard Oil sweetheart deal with the railroads leaks. And everybody in Titusville suddenly sees, oh, there is this new force, this new power in the market, in our industry. And they freak out. You know, obviously, if there's only one buyer for their oil, that's going to be very bad for them. And Ida doesn't know all this at the time, but she sees her father. She sees, you know, she's a teenager. She sees her father completely transformed. I remember a night when my father came home with a grim look on his face and told how he, with scores of other producers, had signed a pledge not to sell to the Cleveland Ogre.

14:42The Cleveland Ogre. He no longer told of the funny things he had seen and heard during the day. He no longer sang to my little sister on the arm of the chair the verses we had all been brought up on.

14:52Ida Tarbell:But it's important to say that Standard Oil didn't put her dad out of business. Like, he did pretty well for himself. He could still take Ida on trips to big cities. He could still buy her books, which she loved. And when she graduated from high school, she was able to go off to college, to Allegheny College. And, you know, not that many people, period, went to college in this era. Much less a woman. Much less a woman. Much less a woman. She was, in fact, the only woman in her class at college. And, you know, it was hard being the only woman. There's this day she talks about where she goes to sit under a tree and somebody's like, no, no, you only men can sit under that tree.

15:31Ida Tarbell:But she loved it. She described this this moment as a yeasty time. Ooh, bubbly. So much ferment, you know? Yeah. And her dream was to become a biologist. Like, remember how much she loved the woods at her grandmother's cabin? But that was too much for a woman at that time. Can't be a biologist. She briefly became a schoolteacher. It was a job a woman can do. That didn't really suit her. And she wound up going to work for a magazine called The Chautauquin. Started out just annotating articles, kind of providing extra little facts. Got on to writing articles, became the managing editor. But even that left her restless.

16:08Ida Tarbell:She was this profoundly ambitious, intellectual journalist, curious about the world, wanted to do more, see more. And so she thinks, maybe I'll go to Paris. Ha. Paris, yeah. From Pithole to Paris. From Pithole to Paris. Very good. And you know, Paris, this is like Belle Epoque Paris, right? Late 1800s, the intellectual, cultural, scientific, arguably hub of the world. She figures she can be a freelance writer. But, you know, she's an unmarried woman. It's 1891. This is like a wild thing for her to do in this kind of cultural context. So she talks to her editor at the magazine about it. Editor's famously supportive.

16:48Ida Tarbell:Especially when a reporter wants to go to Paris. I've tried this gambit before. Well, did your editor say to you what hers said to her? You're not a writer. You'll starve. Something similar. Something similar, yeah. Her father, to his credit, was more encouraging. He said, if you think you can do it, try it. So she did. She moved to Paris. She researched a book on one Madame Roland, an overlooked figure from the French Revolution. She started freelancing for newspapers and magazines from back home. And, you know, she got really into it. She worked in a soup kitchen to report on how the poor people of Paris lived.

17:25Ida Tarbell:She talks about essentially following her curiosity, which, Robert, it's with your side, as I said, Because it reminds me of your life as a general assignment reporter on the streets of New York. And this description, her description of what it was like, it really reminded me of you. I'm jealous already. There were a multitude of things I thirsted to know. And if I could get my bread and butter finding out, what luck. What luck. She's living the dream. It is the king's life to be a reporter. So she writes an article about the guy who had recently paved the streets of Paris. Oh, come on. You're killing me here.

18:00What a great profile.

18:01Ida Tarbell:What a great profile. Apparently it was a great profile because it got published in America and landed on the desk of an editor who read it and loved it. This is a great article. Who is this gal? Get her to me. That's essentially what happened, although he went himself to find her. He thought it was so good. His name was Sam McClure. He was about to start a magazine called McClure's. It's going to be very important in our story. And not long after he reads her article, he's in Paris on business. And he manages to find Ida Tarbell, who's living in this little apartment. He goes up the 80 steps to the apartment.

18:35I've rented that apartment in Paris. Yes.

18:37Ida Tarbell:He gets to the top of the stairs. He's out of breath. He says, I can only stay 10 minutes. I got to catch a train. They wind up talking for hours. And Ida is captivated by him. Give us this line from her autobatter. His utter simplicity, outrightness, his enthusiasm and confidence captivated me. So they're talking. It's great. And then Sam jumps up and says, I must go. Could you lend me$40? I'm not joking here. No, this is literally what he said. And of course, you're like, don't. What? No, he's scamming you. What? No, don't do it. But she does it. This is like all the money she has saved up since she's been in Paris.

19:15Ida Tarbell:And she hands him the money and he runs down the stairs. And as soon as he's gone, like the spell is broken. Here, she gives her reflection at this moment. I'll never see that money. Serves me right. Fortunately for the history of America and our story, she was wrong. McClure paid her back. She agreed to become the first staff writer for his new magazine, McClure's. And at that magazine, she would do the work that would change business in America. Woo! We'll talk about that in just a minute.

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20:39Ida Tarbell:Whether you're a small business or managing a large operation, Odoo gives you one flexible platform built to grow with you. Try for free today at odoo.com slash iHeartRadio. That's odoo.com slash iHeartRadio.

21:05Ida Tarbell:And we're back from the break. Ida Tarbell is going to work for this new magazine, McClure's. And McClure's is great. I mean, A, it's an important institution in the history of business in America, but it is also something that I love, which is a place where a bunch of talented people come together and do creative work. I find stories like this exciting and inspiring, frankly. I love it. You like the Ernest Hemingway, right? Yeah. I mean, this, yeah, sure. Even the Beats, I'll admit it. I got a soft spot in my heart for the Beats. This is like a journalistic version of that. So the magazine launches in 1893.

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21:44Ida Tarbell:And this is a moment when the big magazines, your Harper's, your Atlantic, cost 35 cents an issue, which means they're too expensive for the middle class. They're like a kind of quasi-luxury item. They cost a lot to make because you have these woodcut illustrations, apparently, that are very labor intensive. But there's this new technology coming along that lets you, I guess, do some kind of an engraving out of a photo. And so McClure is like, oh, I can lower my costs and I can sell a cheaper magazine, which is important to him, not just because he wants to sell more at a lower price, but because he wants to reach that overlooked middle class.

22:21Ida Tarbell:He has this social ambition that the magazine is going to, you know, influence the thinking of a broader swath of Americans that have read magazines to this point. A little similar to the Benjamin Franklin story. Yeah, it really is. It really is. And in the way that, you know, Franklin is coming along at just the very beginning of the Industrial Revolution and at this moment when there's more economic mobility than there's been, McClure and Ida Tarbell are coming along in the second Industrial Revolution. Thomas Edison. Thomas Edison, electricity, oil, and the internal combustion engine are about to come along.

22:57Ida Tarbell:And they are transforming the world, transforming work, creating vast fortunes. Inequality is rising. And you're starting to see the early part of the backlash to this from farmers and from basically poor industrial workers who sort of see this accumulation of money and power and the way it is harming them. But there is this vast middle class of small business owners and tradesmen and office clerks, really the Benjamin Franklin types, who are still like not really tuned in. You know, they are aware that they're benefiting from these new technologies. They have electric lights if they're lucky.

23:34Ida Tarbell:If not, they have kerosene, which is way better than whale oil. And this is McClure's audience, right? He wants to tell them sort of the bigger story. What is the big world historical arc that is happening now? And, you know, it's not like a luxury, pure political magazine. He publishes Arthur Conan Doyle, you know, Sherlock Holmes stories. He publishes Jack London. He publishes Mark Twain, covers science. In fact, Ida Tarbell starts out writing about science for him, interviews Louis Pasteur in France. Rad to do that. So Ida starts out doing that science writing. She moves back to the U.S. and winds up writing these extremely popular multi-part series about the lives of Napoleon and Lincoln.

24:17People always, they love him.

24:19Ida Tarbell:Oh, people read so many biographies. A publishing person once said, like, if you want to write a bestselling book, it should be Lincoln's doctor's dog. But really the core of McClure's magazine is this theme of money and power and corruption taking a more and more important role in American life. And so there are articles about corrupt local governments. There are stories about union thugs beating up non-union workers. but clearly the biggest money and power story of this era is the story of the trusts, right? Of these monopolistic roll-ups of different industries. You know, there's a beef trust and there is a sugar trust and there's U.S.

25:03Ida Tarbell:Steel and General Electric. And of course, there is Standard Oil. It's like a list of our episodes. Yes, that we've done and that are yet to come. Yes. And so Ida Tarbell and Sam McClure are looking out at this world. She is the star writer. This is the essential subject. And Ida Tarbell thinks, well, maybe I should go back to my childhood. You know, maybe I should tell the story of John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil. As she's thinking about this, she goes and talks to her father about this idea. He's still in the oil business, but it has been a struggle for him. His partner several years earlier had actually gotten into some kind of business trouble and killed himself.

25:44Ida Tarbell:and Ida's dad inherited the partner's debts and had to mortgage the family's house. And so when Ida told her dad, she was thinking of, you know, digging into this story of what's really going on with John D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil, he said, don't do it. They'll destroy the magazine. They won't let you publish. Like, they are too big and too powerful. Yeah, it'll be a journalistic massacre instead of the Cleveland massacre. She didn't listen. and in 1901, she set out to tell the story of John D. Rockefeller and the rise of Standard Oil. And she knew that she wanted to tell it as a story, as a narrative, you know, the narrative how this man and his company rose to power, used power.

26:31Ida Tarbell:And she knew that her narrative had to be extremely solid, you know, based on unambiguous documentary evidence. And And she was an incredibly meticulous reporter. You know, she'd wanted to be a scientist. And she started out sort of annotating articles. She was a very rigorous journalist. So her first move is she knows that Standard Oil had based government investigations for a long time. Nothing had ever really come of them. Government hadn't done anything to Standard Oil. But there were these investigations. And the investigators wrote reports. You know, you want to look like you're doing something without really doing something?

27:07Ida Tarbell:Write a report. and she knew there was a report on that early deal between Standard Oil and the railroads, the one that, you know, made her dad get so upset when she was 14 years old. She goes to look for this report and she can't find a copy. Eventually somebody tells her, oh yeah, that report, the railroad presidents paid a bounty. They'd pay people like$100 to turn in copies of the report. So people are taking them out of libraries. They're fighting them at home. It's like, take it. Yeah, yeah. There is a market for those reports. And a big bonfire out back. And a big bonfire out back. She did manage to find one copy at the New York Public Library.

27:49Ida Tarbell:Shout out. Hooray for the libraries. Yeah. And so, you know, she's working on this story. And she's working for months and months before an article even publishes. Hooray for magazines. And of course, Standard Oil, which knows everything about everybody at this point, That is their whole game. Finds out she's working on the story. They hire a PR crisis firm. They have a guy. There are no PR crisis firms yet, but they have a guy. His name's Henry Rogers. He's a vice president at the company. And he's friends with Mark Twain, actually. Of course he is. Of course he is. And Mark Twain has written for McClure's.

28:21Ida Tarbell:And so this guy, Henry Rogers, this standard oil exec, tells Mark Twain he wants to talk to Ida Tarbell about whatever she's working on. And Mark Twain tells McClure and McClure tells Ida Tarbell. And so Ida Tarbell goes to see Henry Rogers, vice president of Standard Oil, at his mansion on East 57th Street. What does she say in her autobiography about this moment? Ida said she was a bit scared. Was I putting my head into the lion's mouth? She was not. It went great. Weirdly, they kind of loved each other. Henry is like, how'd you get interested in oil? And Ida's like, I grew up in the oil country in Pennsylvania.

28:58Ida Tarbell:And Henry says, of course, Tarbell's tank shops. I knew your father. They figure out they were neighbors. He's like, I probably saw you gathering flowers over at your side of the ravine. And Ida, here's what she said about him. She called Henry as fine a pirate as ever flew his flag in Wall Street. So wait, is Henry just like doing the PR thing where he's like cozying up to her? Well, yes. And I mean, part of the PR thing, I think, is this company has a story to tell. The company has a side of the story. They believe in what they are doing. It is not purely cynical. And so I think smart PR, and I think Henry was basically smart PR, is, well, if this story is going to happen, let's tell our side of the story.

29:45Ida Tarbell:And that is what Henry is going to do. And in fact, Ida's going to go back to him again and again, and Henry's going to keep talking to her for a long time. She spends about a year before she publishes anything. She travels through Washington, Pennsylvania, Ohio. She's reading court documents and government statistics, and she's talking to everybody she can talk to. And there's one little story that I think captures a lot about the depth of her reporting, and it's this. There was an office boy who worked at Standard Oil. He was a teenager. And his job included feeding documents into a furnace, the shredder of its day.

30:24Ida Tarbell:We have a document furnace down in the basement. Sure. And one day, I guess he has something he's about to throw in the fire or something. I don't know exactly, but he spots a familiar name on one of these documents that's about to go into the furnace. It was his old Sunday school teacher whose day job was being an independent operator in the oil business. Standard Oil does not like a independent operator. They really don't. And so what the office boy sees on this document that he's supposed to burn is that the local railroad office was secretly sending information about this Sunday school teacher's oil shipments to Standard Oil.

31:06Ida Tarbell:And then Standard Oil was giving orders to the railroad office. Specifically, they sent a letter about a shipment of this independent guy's oil that said, stop that shipment. This is this is what Standard Oil was doing. So to be clear, Standard Oil is communicating with the railroads to interfere with their competitor. Yes. In an instance like this, they're probably bribing the local railroad agent. Like there were a lot of ways that they worked with the railroad. That's an incentive structure, Jacob. It is a very rational incentive structure. The kid, the office boy, the burner of documents, thinks this doesn't seem entirely on the level.

31:47Ida Tarbell:And so instead of putting these particular documents into the furnace, he gives them to his Sunday school teacher on the sly, one presumes. And the Sunday school teacher gives the documents to Ida Tarpil. And Ida sees that as Standard Oil got bigger and bigger, took control of more and more of the oil business, the company came to have more and more power over the railroads in small ways like this, right, bribing local railroad workers, but also in big ways, right? Eventually, Standard Oil got railroads to give it a discount on shipping and also to charge its competitors extra and kick that money back to Standard Oil.

32:32Ida Tarbell:Wild, wild. And she brings this information to her buddy, Henry Rogers, vice president of Standard Oil. She says, like, what is going on with these rebates in the railroads? What's he say? Oh, Ida, somebody would have taken them if we had not. And then she's like, yeah, but nobody else could have. Standard oil is the giant. You set the rules. You dominate the business. Like, if you wanted to make the railroads give the same rates to everybody, you could. You could make it so oil companies are just competing on the merits. And Henry Rogers says, There was always somebody without scruples and competition.

33:11However small that somebody might be, he might grow. And this, for Ida, is the essence of the worldview of Standard Oil.

33:21Ida Tarbell:You need to smother competition in the cradle. Yes, very good. Very good. She actually says in her autobiography, she says that there was this obsession of the Standard Oil company, that danger lurked in small as well as great things, that nothing, however trivial, must live outside of its control. obsessive control, not just of the market, of everything. Of everything. And everybody. So in 1902, she publishes her first article about Standard Oil in McClure's. It'll eventually turn into a 19-part series. Wow. Wow. People actually read in those days. They really did, as we'll see. The series will include everything we've been talking about and more.

34:08Ida Tarbell:Robert, it will include widows who are forced to sell to Standard Oil below market prices. Oh, investigative journalists love a widow. Love a widow. It'll include the card catalog that Standard Oil kept to monitor every little store that sold oil. Surveillance. Surveillance. It'll include the ways that Standard Oil harassed the stores that sold other companies oil. And to be clear, it'll include a lot of the clever and efficient things that Standard Oil did as well. There's actually an article called The Legitimate Greatness of the Standard Oil Company. Very fair of her. Very fair. At least somewhat fair.

34:48Ida Tarbell:And it is a hit. It is a massive hit. The magazine is selling out faster than usual on the newsstand. Subscriptions are growing. Newspapers are writing editorials about it. There's a play on Broadway that opens called The Lion and the Mouse. That is an allegory of Ida Tarbell and John D. Rockefeller. And, you know, it's this long series. So the stories are coming. It's building. Sam McClure tells Ida Tarbell, You are today the most famous woman in America. In 1904, the series is published as a book called The History of the Standard Oil Company. And you can see the whole idea, you know, the whole story in one place.

35:30And the basic picture is a company run by a truly brilliant businessman

35:36Ida Tarbell:who used every new technology and efficiency gain he could to build his company, and who also used threats and bribery and coercion to drive his competitors out of business so he could gain complete control of the oil industry in America. Does one have to bring the other? Did Ida Tarbell think that if you are going to master an industry, you will inevitably cross the line? I don't think she did think that. Like, she was not anti-business. She wanted business to be a moral pursuit. And there was a real kind of moral quality. Think of the children to her writing that I haven't talked about here.

36:15Ida Tarbell:But she thought that this strangle the competitors in the cradle was a dishonorable part of what should be an honorable part of American life. And so her book closes with a call to action. And it's not anti-business, but it's anti-monopoly. What are we going to do about it? For it is our business. We, the people of the United States, and nobody else, must cure whatever is wrong in the industrial situation, typified by this narrative of the growth of the Standard Oil Company. So it's 1904 when the book comes out. Presidential election year. Nice timing by a publicist. True. And one of the candidates had an idea for what the people of the United States should do about Standard Oil and monopoly power in America.

37:02Ida Tarbell:I'll give you a clue. It was not the Democratic nominee, Alton B. Parker. Ooh. It was the guy he was running against. Guessing he got famous. You'll know after the ad.

37:36Ladies and gentlemen, we are back from the break.

37:40Ida Tarbell:Please give a warm business history welcome to the 26th president of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt. Roosevelt. Roosevelt was the other huge, important figure in this American pivot we've been talking about of the early 1900s. in the backlash to the power of Standard Oil and the other trusts. And Roosevelt had an extremely interesting relationship with Ida Tarbell and the other investigative journalists of the era. And, you know, if you know one thing about Theodore Roosevelt and the journalists, you know about this speech he gave, which happened to be at a moment when he was frustrated with an article that attacked the U.S.

38:23Ida Tarbell:Senate. Roosevelt compared investigative journalists to a guy who was always looking down and just raking the muck beneath his feet. He said, The muckraker typifies the man who in this life consistently refuses to see aught that is lofty and fixes his eyes with solemn intentness only on that which is vile and debasing. Of course, the journalists loved this. Started proudly calling themselves the muckrakers. Sure, happy to look through the muck for embarrassing things. And there is this moment, kind of in the similar vein, when Ida Tarbell and another McClure's journalist meet with Roosevelt at the White House, and he tells them they're impractical.

39:03Ida Tarbell:Ida wrote later that Theodore Roosevelt was afraid that we were adding to the not inconsiderable revolutionary fervor abroad driving people into socialism. Yeah, and remember, Roosevelt was president because an anarchist assassinated President McKinley. Of course he's worried about agitation. This was the age of anarchism, and so journalists, what are they but anarchists with pens? Strong take. So this is the famous side of Roosevelt's relationship with Tarbell and the other journalists of the era. But there was another side to it. There's a book that really helped me think about this. It's by Doris Kearns Goodwin.

39:39Ida Tarbell:It's called The Bully Pulpit. Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft and the Golden Age of Journalism. Another topic for biographies that anyone will buy. Yes, 100 percent. And Doris Kearns Goodwin talked about the way that Theodore Roosevelt needed, needed Ida Tarbell and her colleagues because he wanted to take on the trusts. But when he took office in 1901, the politics were not really in his favor because of that divide I was talking about earlier. You know, you had the farmers and the radicals who were anti-trust, who were fighting the trusts. And then you had the moneyed interests, trusts, J.P.

40:21Ida Tarbell:Morgan, who were profiting from the trusts. But then there was this vast, basically indifferent middle class, people who just didn't care that much. And Roosevelt knew that in order to really to have Congress on his side, to take real action against the trust, he needed to bring that middle class over onto his side. And he needed Ida Tarbell's nuance that business is not bad. Some monopolies are not bad, but you can abuse the monopoly. This would be the thing that he could hold on to. Yes. And and in fact, that is what happened. You know, that is what her stories about Standard Oil showed America.

41:02Ida Tarbell:And, you know, as I was saying, the magazine was targeted at exactly that kind of tuned out middle class that Roosevelt needed. And they read Iditar Bell's stories and they started thinking differently about monopoly power and the trust and the meaning of business in America. And Roosevelt uses that momentum to start changing things. In 1903, he actually signs three important bills into law, kind of one after the other. One of them makes it harder for railroads to pay rebates, rebates, quote unquote, like those ones Standard Oil has been getting. Another one is supposed to actually expedite antitrust prosecutions.

41:42Ida Tarbell:And the third one, maybe the biggest one, creates this Department of Commerce and Labor that has legal power to investigate companies, you know, engaged in interstate commerce. But Standard Oil, by this point, was so big and so powerful that these laws were not going to be enough. Robert, I know you love an old-timey political cartoon. And I love to read cartoons on the radio. You love to read cartoons on the radio. So here is one published in the magazine Puck in the year 1904, which is the year Ida's Standard Oil book came out, and also the year Theodore Roosevelt is running for election or re-election.

42:18Okay, I have to zoom in here because if you remember, political cartoons at the time had like a million things going on in them. They were very, very complicated. So right in the middle is an octopus. And the body of the octopus is an oil tank that says Standard Oil. So this is Standard Oil, the octopus. And what does the octopus have its tentacles around? Well, Congress, absolutely. This looks like the state house over there. It looks like it's crushing the middle class here. It's crushing rich guys and lots of people over here. And then over in the corner is the White House. And the tentacle of the Standard Oil octopus is about to reach out and crush the last remaining building that it has not crushed, the White House itself.

43:07Ida Tarbell:The cartoon was called Next. Oh! Because the White House was Next. Yes. I understand. You know, they write the names on all the cartoons. It's pretty clear. It's pretty clear. No subtlety. So Roosevelt is running this campaign on what he calls the three C's, conservation, consumer protection, and control of corporations. Four C's. I count four if you do control of corporations, yeah. The last one is the one we care about today, or the last two, I guess, control of corporations. And Roosevelt won, of course. And so now he can push his trust-busting campaign further. In 1906, his Department of Justice sues Standard Oil under the Sherman Antitrust Act, which has been around for a long time, but largely unused.

43:59Ida Tarbell:And the case lays out a lot of what Ida Tarbell talked about in her stories in her book. There's this actually incredible kind of paragraph that lists the allegations against the company. Rebates, preferences, and other discriminatory practices. Restraint and monopolization by control of pipelines and unfair practices against competing pipelines. Contracts with competitors in restraint of trade. Unfair methods of competition, such as local price cutting at the points where it's necessary to suppress competition. And espionage of the business of competitors and the operation of bogus, independent companies.

44:34But other than that, it's a fine company. It's a beautiful institution.

44:38Ida Tarbell:The case wound its way through the courts. They always wind. They say they wind. They bounce around. Went all the way, as we have to say, to the Supreme Court. And the government won. The United States of America won. Standard Oil was forced to split into dozens of separate companies. And Rockefeller got the news perfectly when he was playing golf on his personal golf course. I don't know how they gave him the news, but there's a story about what happened when he got the news. He was playing golf, I believe, with a Catholic priest. Sounds like a joke, but I think it's true. And he gets the news, and he says to the guy he's playing golf with, have you any money?

45:22Ida Tarbell:And the guy says, no, why? And Rockefeller says, buy Standard Oil. He felt he was going to be just fine. And he was right. He was right because shareholders in Standard Oil got shares in all of the newly formed 30-some companies that spun out of it, which included Standard Oil of New Jersey, which became a little company called Exxon, and Standard Oil of New York, which went on to become mobile. So Rockefeller lost in court, but he just kept getting richer. But of course, after that, you could have lots of scrappy oil companies come up and compete. Yeah, I mean, look, Iditar Bell's goal wasn't to make Rockefeller go broke, right?

46:08Ida Tarbell:It was to make the public understand that companies like Standard Oil weren't competing on a level playing field. They weren't trying to win market share by selling a better product or selling at a lower price. You know, she wanted people to know that they were using their power to force rivals out every way they could and that once they had that kind of monopoly power, there was no market anymore. The market didn't work anymore, you know, because the core of a market, the thing capitalism needs is competition. And she succeeded at that. And by the way, this is a person who, because she is a woman, can't vote, can't hold most business jobs who is doing this.

46:53She did help people understand this.

46:58Ida Tarbell:She helped create a new way of thinking about business in America, right? She helped to establish this world that we live in now where we understand that monopolies are a failure mode of capitalism and that sometimes we need the government to intervene to save capitalism from itself. We're two geniuses into our three-part American Genius series. Robert Smith, you're writing part three right now. What's coming next week? You know what you have to do in a third part of a series? You have to innovate. Yes. You have to disrupt. Yes. And in fact, our third American genius is the man who combined those two things, disruption and innovation, into one theory.

47:37And we'll have it next week. Today's show was produced by Gabriel Hunter Chang.

47:42Ida Tarbell:It was engineered by Sarah Bruguer. Our video editor slash producer is Matt Nielsen. Our showrunner and editor is Ryan Dilley, who researched and wrote much of the show today. I'm Jacob Goldstein. And I'm Robert Smith. Thanks for listening. Running a business shouldn't feel like surviving a software group project. One app for accounting, another for inventory, another for sales, and somehow none of them talk to each other. That's where Odoo comes in, an all-in-one business management software that brings every part of your business together, from sales and accounting to inventory and marketing, all in one powerful platform.

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From the publisher

At a time when women couldn't vote or freely enter the workplace, Ida Tarbell took on the richest man in America and triumphed. Ida grew up in the Pennsylvania oil fields of the 1870s, and saw how John D Rockefeller and his company Standard Oil bought or bullied independent firms. Ida's neighbors and even her own father were in Rockefeller's sights.     

In adulthood, Ida joined a new movement in journalism. She was a "muckraker" - looking to dig up dirt on the greedy and unscrupulous monopolies of the Gilded Age. She wrote a 19-part investigation of Standard Oil that became a nationwide hit and forced the US government to act and break Rockefeller's empire apart. 

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