In short
The episode “Time is Money” (Business History) argues that Benjamin Franklin helped create America’s business self-help genre and a new work-and-money value system that fueled industrial capitalism and “grind culture.”
Guests
none. Hosts are Jacob Goldstein and Robert Smith.
Key claims
Franklin’s practical, mass-market writing (Poor Richard’s Almanac; The Way to Wealth; Advice to a Young Tradesman) turned aphorisms into widely shared economic morals. “Time is money” reframed time as something to monetize via discipline and opportunity cost. Money-making became an ethical virtue (work and frugality as morals), later theorized by Max Weber as rooted in Puritan/Calvinist “elect” logic.
Notable examples
“Poor Richard” aphorisms like “No gains without pains,” “Beware of little expenses,” and “Fish and visitors stink in three days.” Franklin’s “Father Abraham” sermon in The Way to Wealth (“We are taxed twice as much by our idleness”). Advice on credit: “look busy,” pay creditors early, avoid taverns/billiards.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFranklin's Revolutionary Identity and Work Ethic
2:20 to 4:32
Discover how Franklin reshaped American values around work and self-identity.
“I can't even say not one, because that wouldn't be a series.”
Ben Franklin's Early Life and Apprenticeship
4:34 to 5:44
Explore Franklin's challenging upbringing and his early career as a printer.
“His father was a Puritan who came to Boston and worked as a Chandler.”
Silence Do Good: Franklin's Clever Disguise
5:46 to 8:48
Learn about Franklin's use of a pseudonym to critique society in his youth.
“And printer at the time meant something quite different than it means today.”
Franklin's Journey to Philadelphia
8:50 to 11:28
Follow Franklin's adventurous journey from Boston to Philadelphia and his ambitions.
“And that becomes sort of core to his identity as a writer, as we'll see.”
Creating Poor Richard's Almanac: A Business Model
11:28 to 13:20
Understand the innovative strategies behind Franklin's successful almanac.
“And here is Benjamin Franklin inventing it right before our eyes.”
Aphorisms and Their Impact on American Society
13:20 to 14:00
Discover the cultural significance of Poor Richard's aphorisms in American life.
“And one of the great themes of business history, the show and the history itself, is that commodity businesses are terrible businesses to be in.”
Aphorisms from Poor Richard's Almanac
14:00 to 17:52
Explore the impactful aphorisms from Poor Richard's Almanac and their relevance today.
“And it says in this, by the way, that this is for Philadelphia, but it will serve all the eastern seaboard down to the south.”
Franklin's Entrepreneurial Spirit
18:54 to 28:00
Discuss Ben Franklin's innovative business strategies and his writings on wealth.
“We're back from the ad, and Ben Franklin is doing great.”
The Impact of The Way to Wealth
28:00 to 30:08
Explore how Franklin's essay shaped American economic culture.
“Just this little introduction gets reprinted.”
Transition to Franklin's Other Writings
30:08 to 30:31
A brief transition discussing Franklin's other significant writings.
Show all 14 chapters
Delving into Advice to a Young Tradesman
30:34 to 33:12
An analysis of Franklin's essay on the value of time and money.
“There is one other piece of Ben Franklin's writing that's worth spending some time on.”
Franklin's Philosophies on Work and Money
33:12 to 39:15
Discussion on Franklin's views about work, saving, and credit.
“He's writing this in essentially the pre-industrial age.”
Weber's Analysis of Franklin
39:15 to 42:03
Examining Max Weber's interpretation of Franklin's impact on capitalism.
“was to buy fancy stuff, not to save all your money, right?”
The Lasting Impact of Ben Franklin's Capitalist Ethic
42:03 to 44:26
Explore how Ben Franklin's worldview shaped American capitalism and work culture.
“And so you just you just make it so that everyone knows you have money.”
Transcript
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1:07Before Benjamin Franklin, whatever, flew a kite in a thunderstorm, before he edited the Declaration of Independence, before he met with kings, he was mainly two things. One, a successful businessman, and two, the best-selling writer in what would soon become the United States of America. And these two things, being a bestselling writer and being a successful businessman, they were actually related because at the time most writing was religious or philosophical. It was very high minded. But Benjamin Franklin's writing was was not like this at all. It was the writing of a businessman. It was practical, on the ground advice.
1:47We call it mass market for a mass market. We call it self-help. Right. We call it financial self-help because what he wrote about was how to make money. Ben Franklin basically invented this American genre of the business self-help book. And on top of that, more importantly, he created a new way to think about work. He created this American value system and gave us the language to live in the industrial age. I'm Jacob Goldstein. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Business History. A show about the history of business. And today, we are starting a series. Not two episodes. I can't even say not one, because that wouldn't be a series.
2:30Three! Your favorite number. And we're calling it American Genius. Genius. As a part of a celebration of America 250, baby. We are telling the stories, not necessarily of business people, as we've done on this program. We are telling the stories of writers, three writers who changed the way we think about business and money in America. And we're starting with Ben Franklin, who was there at the jump. And, you know, he did real work as a scientist, was a father of our country. But that is not what we are here to talk about today. Today on the show, Benjamin Franklin, businessman and writer. There's a reason he's on The 100.
3:10All about the Benjamin's baby. I was afraid you were going to say that. In 1788, when Benjamin Franklin, no middle name, was 82 years old, he wrote his last will and testament. Robert Smith, give us the first six words. My bifocals. Invented by Ben Franklin, of course. I, Benjamin Franklin, of Philadelphia, comma, printer, comma, printer. At this moment, Ben Franklin was the governor, sort of governor-ish of Pennsylvania. He was a world-famous scientist. He'd been U.S. minister to France during the American Revolution. But he starts with his job, printer, which in the context of this historical moment is a baller move.
3:52People at this time did not identify themselves by their jobs, at least people of the status of Benjamin Franklin. Gentlemen didn't work, right? Work was for the lower classes. And so here is Franklin, who, you know, could be a gentleman at this point if he wanted to, but he is owning his identity as a tradesman. And in this will and testament, which is a piece of writing, he is already starting to create this new value system for America where your trade is your identity, where you take pride in your work, where we admire self-made people, which is the opposite of the way it worked at the time.
4:30You didn't want to be self-made. You wanted to be born to a family of old money. And Franklin truly was self-made. His father was a Puritan who came to Boston and worked as a Chandler. Job you don't hear about so much anymore, making candles out of tallow, out of animal fat. A hard, dirty, smelly job. Jacob knows this because for a Planet Money episode, Jacob actually ordered beef fat and made his own candles at home. Smells very bad. Takes a long time. And the candles aren't very nice, at least if I'm making them. So this is the family Ben Franklin is born into. He is not particularly religious.
5:08And he doesn't want to be a Chandler. And he threatens to run off to sea, like one of his older brothers had done. But that brother had died at sea. And so Ben Franklin's dad talked him into becoming an apprentice with another older brother, a brother named James. And James was a printer in Boston. And being an apprentice was was a formal legal thing at the time. And in fact, 12 year old Ben Franklin signed a legal binding contract promising to work for his brother until he was 21 years old and went to work as a printer's apprentice. Wow, with your brothers. Like, sign the contract, dude. Yeah.
5:47And printer at the time meant something quite different than it means today. You know, today, I hear printer, and I think of Kinko's, which is probably showing my age. But remember, Kinko's was a big deal. I spent a lot of time at Kinko's 25 years ago. You get the bond paper for your resume, and like, it has the watermark, and like, so thick, so luxurious. Goldstein resume, 03, final, final, really final. Anyway, in the 1700s, printer was sort of more like we think of publisher today. You know, like Ben's brother James, like a lot of printers, published his own newspaper. It was called the New England Current.
6:26And in fact, in April of 1722, Ben had been a printing for a few years. He's 16 years old. He sneaks off after hours, disguises his handwriting, and starts submitting articles to his brother's paper under the pseudonym Silence Duguid. No way. Silence Duguid? Silence Duguid. A very pseudonym. I mean, at the time, people did often write under pseudonyms. Did his brother know? No, his brother didn't know. And his brother loved the articles. So Silence Duguid is this widow from the Massachusetts countryside who's kind of plain-spoken, plain-thinking, poking fun at the higher classes. Being written by a teenage boy.
7:16Being written by a teenage boy. And there's one in particular I think that's worth looking at for a minute. Robert, give us this, a paragraph. It's from an article where Silence Do Good is making fun of Boston's Harvard boys. They learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely and enter a room genteely, which might as well be acquired at a dancing school. And from thence, they return after abundance of trouble and charge as great blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited. There's only like a handful of universities in the United States at this time. It's before there was a United States.
7:53There's only like five universities and they already hate Harvard. Yes. Well, Ben Franklin in particular does, right, because he is a brilliant young man who only has two years of formal schooling and is never going to get more. He's not going to Harvard. So he has a kind of a chip on his shoulder, perhaps, right, some class resentment. And one other thing that's worth mentioning here is Harvard is a religious school. It's essentially a seminary, right? And Franklin is going to go on in his life to create what will become the University of Pennsylvania, which is a very different kind of college, right?
8:29Not a religious school, but a school to train students for practical jobs in, you know, business and government. Very much in keeping with his practical, get your hands dirty in the world persona. He's pulling one over on his brother, but he's learning how to triangulate all these different parts of what will be American society by using humor and being clever. Yes, he is very witty. And that becomes sort of core to his identity as a writer, as we'll see. So these articles do well. He writes them for a few months and then stops because he thinks his brother is on to him, basically. Silence do good.
9:04And ultimately, he decides he can't bear serving out this apprenticeship, in part because his brother actually beats him physically, which, you know, was more common at the time. But Franklin didn't like it. He's bound by law to keep working for his brother, but he decides he's going to break the law and he flees. He's going to flee Boston. He has a friend book him a passage on a ship to New York. His cover story, he was a boy who had an intrigue with a girl of bad character. Hmm. Whose character was bad? Yeah. So he gets to New York. He can't find work in New York. And a printer there tells him to go look for work in Philadelphia.
9:41You know, at the time, even getting from New York to Philadelphia is a journey. It takes him several days to get there. First, he sleeps in an open boat in New York Harbor. And then he goes, you know, goes ashore in New Jersey and sleeps in some old lady's house there the next night. And eventually he finds some people in a rowboat going down the Delaware River to Philadelphia. And he gets in and they row through the night and they get kind of lost. But, you know, it's a river. You can't get that lost. And at eight o 'clock in the morning, I believe it's Sunday morning, they row up to the wharf in Philadelphia.
10:16The Philadelphia is going to be the center of the revolution. It's going to be the city where Franklin makes his fortune. And so there is this moment that he memorializes later in his autobiography itself, an important piece of his writing. this moment when he makes his landing in Philadelphia. Robert, give it to us. I was dirty from my journey. My pockets were stuffed out with shirts and stockings, and I knew no soul nor where to look for lodging. I was fatigued with traveling, rowing, and want of rest. I was very hungry, and my whole stock of cash consisted of a Dutch dollar and about a shilling in copper.
10:51He's a poor man at 8 a.m. on the docks of Philadelphia. And, you know, he's writing this much later in his life, consciously creating this image of himself. And I do want to emphasize how unusual this model is at the time, this self-made man myth, because you don't want to be self-made. It's low class to be self-made. You know, this idea that we have today is the opposite. Right. And it comes from Franklin. Today, there is the derisive term nepo-baiting. Well, exactly right. And these days, if you are a billionaire, you had better have a Benjamin Franklin story about starting in a garage, coming up with the idea from nothing.
11:35And here is Benjamin Franklin inventing it right before our eyes. So he's in Philadelphia and there are two printers already working in town. He gets a job with one of them who basically sucks, is just bad at running a business, doesn't know what he's doing. And in a few years, Franklin sets up his own shop, initially with a partner. The partner's dad bankrolls the business. A few years later, Franklin buys the partner out. I, Benjamin Franklin of Philadelphia, printer. Here he is, working for himself. He's got his business. And in 1733, when he's not yet 30 years old, he finds the formula that's going to make him rich.
12:18He publishes the first edition of Poor Richard's Almanac. Do we know who Poor Richard is? It's like Silence Do Good. It's Richard Saunders. It's a character he makes up, a plain homespun man who, you know, knows the basic earthy truths of the world. So let's talk about almanacs for a minute. Oh, I love almanacs. Love an almanac. An amazing business model, right? Because you got to buy one every year. There's an almanac for the year. We should describe this. An almanac, it's like a calendar, but it has predictions for the weather and planting seasons. It tells you when the sun is going to come up, how long the days are, which is super important.
12:54It tells you when holidays are and Saints' Days and all these things you might want to know. I noticed from looking back to Poor Richard's almanacs that it's always like, the third year since leap year. Okay, good to know. Thanks for reminding us. So it's a good business because they sell them every year. It's a bad business because everybody sells them. It's not a secret that it's a good business. So it's a commodity, right? And one of the great themes of business history, the show and the history itself, is that commodity businesses are terrible businesses to be in. Because there's all this competition.
13:30They drive down the price. That's the only thing you can compete on. And you're just not going to make any money. American businesses love being a monopoly, hate being a commodity. Yeah, so if you're in a commodity business, you want to differentiate your product. And Franklin, to differentiate his product, to make it a premium brand instead of a commodity, creates this character, creates Poor Richard. And Poor Richard writes these little aphorisms in the margins of the almanac. And we've actually got a page. And it says in this, by the way, that this is for Philadelphia, but it will serve all the eastern seaboard down to the south.
14:09Uh-huh, uh-huh. Right, because I suppose some of the details would vary by geography, right? Yeah, yeah. And so you look at this page, and it's an incredible amount of information jammed in. It's one page, and the days and the month are laid out in two columns. I have to say, I'm looking at something more than 200 years ago, right? But it kind of nails the weather a little bit. I guess the weather hasn't changed that much in New York City over 200 years. So there's cloudy, wet weather and perhaps thunder or high winds. Check, check, check and check. Nailed it. But then again, it's like a horoscope that says like an interesting person will cross your path.
14:46This is every almanac so far, right? The thing that makes Poor Richard's different, the thing that sets it apart, is jammed in over there in the right hand column where it's like talking about the phases of the moon and stuff. Jammed in there in italics are these aphorisms. And in fact, there's one here in late May in this 1833 almanac we're reading. Read it to us. The poor have little, beggars none, the rich too much, enough, not one. Pretty good. I know. 200 years later, that's still pretty good. You could scrawl that on a wall somewhere and people would be like, yeah, dude. Yeah. Put it on your TikTok, just TikTok.
15:26Think of just like the ocean. These aphorisms are going to distinguish the book and they're going to become part of the American vernacular, maybe part of the American psyche. You know them already. Read some of them. Yeah. And think about it, by the way. In an almanac, everyone's kind of checking the same day at the same time. And if you have poor Richards, everyone's sort of reading the same inspirational quote at the same time. So when you go down to the tavern. The water cooler TV show. Yeah. And when you go down to the tavern and it looks like the proprietor of the tavern is stressed out, you say, no gains without pains.
16:02It's one of the aphorisms. God helps those who help themselves. I just feel like everyone knows this, right? He who multiplies riches multiplies care. More money, more problems, we say today. Necessity never made a good bargain. Subtler but smart. I feel like these are all just things dad said. Yeah. Would you persuade? Speak of interest, not of reason. I love this one for, like, convincing people on social media, right? Don't tell them why you're right. Tell them how you're going to help them. Early to bed, early to rise. Do I even need to finish this one? You do not. We are all wise to it. Now, I should say that most of the aphorisms, including this one, already existed in some form or another, right?
16:44Franklin didn't make them up. He didn't claim to have made them up. He said he took them from elsewhere. But a lot of them he sharpened, he edited, he punched them up. There's this Walter Isaacson biography of Ben Franklin. Good biography. And he has some nice examples of how Franklin did this. So, for example, there was an English aphorism that went, fresh fish and newcom guests smell, but they are three days old. And Franklin the printer, by the way, he has to fit this in such a tiny little space. He rewrites it as fish and visitors stink in three days. That's a great edit. It's a great edit.
17:24People must have guffawed. People must have guffawed. Okay, another one. The original version, three may keep a secret if two of them are away. Franklin had notes. He made it, three may keep a secret if two of them are dead. Very good. So Poor Richard's is a bestseller. It's the bestseller. It sells more copies than anything but the Bible. And now Ben Franklin is on his way. Give me one more aphorism before the ad break, Robert Smith. You know, there are only two things inevitable in life, death and going to the ad break.
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19:03We're back from the ad, and Ben Franklin is doing great. He's selling tons of copies of Poor Richard. He does this thing where when he's got good promising employees, he sends them off to other cities to start their own print shops, stakes them, gets a share in the profits. It's like he's an incubator, a little print shop VC. And in 1748, when he is 42 years old, Ben Franklin makes a deal with the foreman of his print shop. The foreman will take over the business, Franklin will retire and get half of the profits for the next 18 years. 42 years old and retired. Living the dream. This is the dream.
19:43He'd be huge on Reddit right now. He'd be huge on Reddit. And, you know, he's going to invent bifocals. He's going to be a founding father. He's going to fly a kite in a lightning storm and make fundamental discoveries about the nature of electricity. And I should also mention that as a wealthy man, Ben Franklin will buy at least seven enslaved people who will work for him as household servants over the course of the next several decades. Although at the end of his life, Franklin will become president of the Philadelphia Abolition Society and will petition Congress to abolish slavery unsuccessfully.
20:16He will also keep writing for the rest of his life. Poor Richards keeps coming out every year, even after he hands over the business. It is a cash cow, after all. Until finally, in 1757, Ben Franklin decides that's enough of poor Richard. He's dispensed all the wisdom he has. That's it. There's no more aphorisms. Shut it down. 1750, it's going to be the last ever poor Richard's almanac and a big retirement tour. How are we going to know what the weather in New York City in May is going to be? You're going to have to guess. Cloudy. And by this time, he's already Benjamin Franklin, American statesman.
20:53He gets on a ship to England. He's going to go petition some people in England about a fight over taxes, of course, what people are always fighting over. But his ship, it gets stalled. It has to anchor just off the New Jersey shore for a couple of weeks because there's a French squadron nearby and the captain's afraid they're going to get captured by the French. So here's Ben Franklin stuck on a ship. He pulls out his quill and he starts writing. And what he writes is going to become the most widely reprinted work about economics for the next 250 years. This is before Adam Smith. But of course, Adam Smith wrote like five volumes of economics.
21:34The most influential. You're asking why wasn't Adam Smith? Adam Smith was not a bestseller the way he was. Having tried to read Wealth of Nations. You can see why it wasn't a bestseller. It was not a bestseller. It's a little dense. Yeah. So what Franklin writes is a much easier read than Wealth of Nations. It's basically Poor Richard's Greatest Hits. It's a Greatest Hits album. The best aphorisms from over the past decades. And this time, the aphorisms are not going to be sprinkled throughout the tied charts and the horoscope entries. they'll be published as an introduction right at the beginning of this final almanac.
22:09And, you know, the way he puts them together, it becomes this guide to living. And crucially for our purposes, it becomes a guide to business, a guide to making and keeping money. Which is super interesting at the time, because you imagine that for hundreds of years, there was no guide to living other than the Bible. There was a moral guide, but you expected to do the same job as your father. You didn't expect to make more money. You expected to just get by. So having someone give you advice about how to climb the ladder and be successful wouldn't have even tracked. But we're seeing the very beginnings of the Industrial Revolution and a society where people are changing.
22:52They are rapidly becoming richer in the colonies, and they're about to set their own destiny. Yes, yes. Franklin is coming along at this profound transformation in economic history, right? This is the very beginning of the Industrial Revolution. It hasn't even come to the U.S. yet. And he is writing to meet this moment. So there's a couple pieces of his writing that we're going to talk about in detail. This is the first of the two. So let's talk about it. This piece of writing is, of course, written in the voice of poor Richard, but the opening is classic Ben Franklin. Give it to us. I have heard that nothing gives an author so great pleasure as to find his works respectfully quoted by other learned authors.
23:32This pleasure I have seldom enjoyed. Thank you. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Well played. A little Toastmaster speech. Okay, so right. So self-deprecation, fine. But then look at the pivot in the next paragraph. I concluded at length that the people were the best judges of my merit, for they buy my works. Yeah, sure, I didn't get a great review in the New York Times, but I'm top of the bestseller list, baby. It's kind of a radical notion to be like, I am proud of the fact that I sold a bunch of copies. Ben Franklin, man of the people, right? It's very man of the people. Poor Richard, man of the people.
24:07And then gets a little bit kind of Russian dolly. Poor Richard tells a story, right? Franklin's writing. Poor Richard's telling the story. Poor Richard says, I went to this auction. And everybody's standing around before the auction starts. And they ask this old man named Father Abraham what he thought about taxes. To be clear, Father Abraham's another made-up character. Everything's made up. Ben Franklin is a real guy. Everybody else is made up. And in response to this question about taxes, Father Abraham gives this talk, which is kind of a sermon. But it's not about religion. It's about work and money.
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24:45And it is Father Abraham explicitly quoting poor Richard. So it's like a Russian doll. Franklin, poor Richard, Father Abraham, poor Richard in the middle. And Father Abraham lays out this very coherent worldview about money. First, he says, oh, you guys are complaining about paying taxes. But the way you waste your time, it's like you're taxing yourself. Robert, give us a little bit. We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time, for that's the stuff life is made of, as poor Richard says. There will be sleeping enough in the grave, as poor Richard says.
25:29And as everyone says on LinkedIn to this day. Yes, yes, I'll sleep when I'm dead. And then a bunch of writing about the value of hard work. And then, interestingly, the idea that work itself makes you happy. Trouble springs from idleness and grievous toil from needless ease, whereas industry gives comfort and plenty and respect. And finally, classic Poor Richard, favorite of cheap dads everywhere. Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship. Poor Dick says, "'Tis easier to suppress the first desire than to satisfy all that follow it.'" Don't spend money you don't have to spend.
26:09Sometimes when you see this save your money, work hard kind of advice, you suspect that, like, eh, probably runs a corporation or something. Like, he sits on a boat and lives a life of leisure. Ben Franklin is literally sitting on a boat as he's writing this, but I don't think he is cynical in that way. I think he truly believes it. I mean, to me, like, a more resonant critique is, like, D.H. Lawrence wrote this takedown, we'd call it today, of Franklin's writing, which is basically like it's so hemmed in. He says Franklin like built himself a corral. Franklin was a horse and he built himself a corral of these kind of bourgeois morals and lived inside of it.
26:46And H. Lawrence is like, I want to be, you know, the wild man in the woods. Don't fence me in, Ben Franklin. To me, that's a more resonant critique. This is the end of the Father Abraham sermon inside of this little essay. And at the end, And Franklin cuts back to poor Richard, who's been watching the talk and who describes what happens in this, you know, fictional scene at the end. The people heard it and approved the doctrine and immediately practiced the contrary, just as if it had been a common sermon. Right. He says they immediately afterwards, the auction starts and they buy all this stuff they don't need.
27:20And, you know, all of these aphorisms, all this advice, it reads very generic today, right? It reads very kind of obvious and not that interesting. But at the time, a sort of coherent essay about kind of money and how you should handle money was a new thing in the world for ordinary people. They're about to write all men are created equal. And what he's saying here is that all men can also be rich and save money and make the most of their lives through work. Yes, or at least the right men. We know, in fact, that all men are created equal was a lie at that time. But yes. And this idea of a business book for the masses, this is new, which is why it becomes wildly popular, separate from poor Richard.
28:06Just this little introduction gets reprinted. It's titled The Way to Wealth. And it's a runaway bestseller in America. It's translated into, I believe, 26 languages, published and republished in a thousand different editions well into the 1800s. And, you know, it creates this genre of financial self-help. I imagine a lot of those copies were passed on to a wayward youth from a concerned father and mother. It's perfect. A perfect graduation gift. There was this interesting article that was published in 2015 about this book. It made the argument that it was the most widely reprinted economic work until Chairman Mao's Little Red Book 200 years later.
28:51Not such good economic advice in that one. Also not willingly bought, but yes. There was no money. How could you willingly buy something if there's no money? Here's the interesting thing from this article. The author writes that the way to wealth is the moment at which the colonies began their ascent to global predominance in the production and dissemination of economic culture. Economic culture. Yeah. Yeah. So he's saying this little essay by Franklin, The Way to Wealth, this is the moment when the colonies, what will become the United States, starts to become the place that the world looks to to think about the meaning of economics and business.
29:32Which is fascinating, right? We talk about Adam Smith as the intellectual father of capitalism. We talk about the birth of the Industrial Revolution. But this is saying something slightly different, which is this way of valuing work and money that, in fact, money and work is culture and will become this export of the United States. It happens here. This is the moment it starts to happen. And in a minute, we'll talk about the other piece of Franklin's writing that actually takes this idea further. And in fact, goes deeper than these aphorisms to talk about the meaning of making money. After the break.
30:31All right, that's the end of the ads. Let's go back to Ben Franklin. There is one other piece of Ben Franklin's writing that's worth spending some time on. It's an essay he wrote in 1748, right after he retired. And it's called Advice to a Young Tradesman, written by an old one. An old one meaning him. Meaning him. It's not a fake name. There is no silence do good here. Yeah. And this one was not an airport style bestseller like The Way to Wealth or Poor Richard's Almanac, maybe because it was a little bit more complex. It got a little deeper into ideas. And in the 20th century, historians and social scientists would come back and look at this essay as like a key to understanding how business and work fit into sort of the soul of America.
31:18So, Robert, give me the first, how many, five words from advice to a young tradesman. And everyone listening at home can read along by memory because you know this one. The first five words are, remember that time is money. Time is money. I think this one he may have come up with. I look to see if, like the other aphorisms, did everybody say this one? As far as I know, this is Ben Franklin. And you could argue that time is money is the capitalist worldview in three simple words. Like, think about it. Think about America and business and time is money. You know, I think about railroads and standard time and Frederick Taylor in whatever, 1890, standing on the factory floor with a stopwatch and Henry Ford inventing the moving assembly line and the time clock and FedEx and fast food and Sunday delivery and high frequency trading.
32:15And I think of before this moment when people were farming and you waited for seasons and it was more that weather was money, honestly. Yes, yes. This is a real pivot point. Yes. So time is money is a pivot point. But he goes deeper here. Give me that whole first paragraph. OK. Remember that time is money. He that can earn 10 shillings a day by his labor and sits idle one half of that day has really spent or rather thrown away five shillings. If you take half a day off, it's like you're throwing away the money you would have made if you had worked. We call that opportunity cost. Yes. Yes. It's the cost of the option you don't choose.
32:54We actually talked about it in the Ice King show. We did recently. One of the first things they teach you in business school is about opportunity cost. Now, to be clear, the phrase opportunity cost isn't going to be coined for like, you know, 100 plus years at this point. So Franklin is articulating this big idea here. But something bigger is going on here, and you were getting at it a minute ago, and that is, you know, he's writing this just at the start of the Industrial Revolution, right? He's writing this in essentially the pre-industrial age. And he is starting to change the way people will experience time, arguably.
33:30There is this famous paper about this that a historian wrote, E.P. Thompson is the name of the historian. He wrote this paper in 1967. It was called Time, Work Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism. And that paper draws on Franklin. It draws on this revolutionary idea that time is money. And Thompson says, you know, before industrialization, your experience of time was totally different. If you were a fisherman, time was the tides. You know, if you were an artisan, it was, well, you have to do this thing in your cottage, right? It was a cottage industry. You have to crop the wool or whatever. It wasn't, oh, there's eight hours when I have to start working and then I stop because of what the clock says.
34:15And Thompson says that the biggest proponent of this shift, not the external shift, but the way people actually felt about time was Ben Franklin. He says Franklin gave this idea its most unambiguous secular expression. Time is money. He is telling you, Ben is telling you, feel that. It is amazing, right? It doesn't feel to us, ah, that's just something that people say. Yeah, yeah. No, it's a big change, I think, in human life, frankly. Okay, that's paragraph one. That's paragraph one. We got more. We got more. Paragraph three, we got another big idea. Give it to me. This is like a tweet storm here, you know.
34:54One of N. One slash N. Okay. The third one's a banger. It really is. Remember that money is of the prolific generating nature. Money can beget money and its offspring can beget more and so on. Five shillings has turned to six, turned again into seven and thruppence, and so on till it becomes a hundred pounds. Money makes money. Compound interest. It's bigger than compound interest. It's bigger than compound interest. Because it's saying that money has a value beyond your time and what it can buy. It says that money is not just an end of itself. It is a self-creating thing that will create more power.
35:42It is perhaps replacing... Don't say God. I will say that. Okay. He wouldn't have gone quite that far. We can talk about that. It's a short essay, nine paragraphs in total. So far, he's taken care of the meaning of time and of making money and of your money making money. And most of the rest, interestingly, is about kind of the other side of the capitalist coin, which is borrowing money. And, you know, he's enough of a realist, enough of a practical businessman to know that sometimes you need to borrow money. He doesn't have the kind of overly simplistic, oh, never going to debt mindset. But the key thing, he says, is to have good credit, to be able to borrow money at, you know, a good rate.
36:24And he gives very specific advice on how to have good credit. The most trifling actions that affect a man's credit are to be regarded. The sound of your hammer at five in the morning or eight at night heard by a creditor makes him easy six months longer. But if he sees you at a billiards table or hears your voice at a tavern when you should be at work, he sends for his money the next day. So that's hilarious. Rule number one, look busy. Look busy. And he goes on to say, you know, pay back your creditors early when you can. They love that. Whatever you do, don't wear fancier clothes than your creditor.
37:02Basically, he's telling you, before a credit score has been invented, how to have a good credit score. Okay, one more paragraph, Robert. Give me the end of advice to a young tradesman, and then we'll talk about what it all means. He that gets all he can honestly and saves all he gets, necessary expenses accepted, will certainly become rich. If that being who governs the world, to whom all should look for a blessing on their honest endeavors, doth not in his wise providence otherwise determine. Basically, he's saying, if you do what I tell you, you'll get rich, unless God decides otherwise. Yeah, or if you're unlucky.
37:39Yes, that's another way to put it. Yes. The modern version. And this last phrase that we're talking about actually gets us to what is going to be the last big idea in today's show, which was inspired by this essay. And it comes from Max Weber, you may recall, as the famous German sociologist of the early 20th century. That's all I know about him. You might remember, if I remind you, that in 1905, he wrote The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. And as it happens, in that famous book, the main example, the main case study, was our man, Benjamin Franklin. And in this work, in this book, Weber looks at Franklin's writing and he says, Ben Franklin, it's not really just telling you here how to get rich.
38:26He's telling you how to live a good life. You know, you read Advice to a Young Tradesman, you read Poor Richards, and you get this message that work is virtue, and frugality is virtue, and idleness is vice. These are not just rules. These are morals. These are ethics. But they're ethics entirely concerned with making and keeping money. And this, Weber argues, is a new thing in the world. It is weird. It is new. It is different. And look, he says, you know, people have always wanted money. Of course, we've always wanted money, but it has not been viewed as a virtue, right? Quite the contrary. It was a necessity.
39:07You borrowed money when you needed it. You lent money when you had it. Or it was greed. It was avarice, right? And crucially, the point of getting rich was to buy fancy stuff, not to save all your money, right? Not to save it to make more money. You got rich so you could get stuff. And Weber looks at Franklin, who's like, yes, get rich, and no, don't buy stuff. And he's like, what is going on here? Oh, I want to do a Weber. Yeah, do a Weber. The passages we have quoted from Franklin, and which called forth the applause of a whole people, meaning the Americans, would both in ancient times and in the Middle Ages have been prescribed as the lowest sort of avarice and as an attitude entirely lacking in self-respect.
39:47I feel like that's the way Europeans still look at Americans. Am I right? Have some self-respect, bro. If you're going to be so money-grubbing, at least pretend otherwise. And so Weber is arguing that this is a whole new thing. You know, he's flipped morals upside down, and he wants to understand where it came from. Why is this suddenly appearing in America at this time in the work of Ben Franklin? And he comes up with this very fuego take. Max Weber says this belief system comes out of the Puritans, you know, the Calvinists, this sect of Protestants who came and settled Massachusetts, sort of Boston, the town where Ben Franklin grew up, right?
40:29His father was essentially a Puritan. And the Puritans believed in predestination, right? A key part of their belief was that God, who knew all things, knew before you were born whether you're going to go to heaven or hell. Nothing you could do about it. And in Weber's telling, people responded to this very kind of weird, stressful state of affairs by trying to prove to themselves in the world that they were the elect, that they were, you know, in the happy book, that God had chosen them to go to heaven. And the way you proved this was by being successful at your job, by making a lot of money.
41:08Because if you made a lot of money, if you were successful at your job, then clearly you were one of the elect. Yes, like Ben says at the end of the Advice to a Tradesman, you know, you'll get rich unless God decides otherwise. Well, I got rich. I guess God didn't decide otherwise. And also, by the way, the Puritans disapproved of, you know, taking too much sensual pleasure in the world, right? So classically, if you'd made a lot of money, you would buy fancy clothes and eat delicious foods and whatever. And like, you know, maybe the Puritans might buy like a fancier black silk shirt or something, but they're not going to like be, you know, crowned in furs and jewels and whatever.
41:49What an interesting conundrum, though. You want the money to prove that you are one of God's elect. Yeah. But you don't want to spend the money on yourself because that's just not done. That's just not done. And so you just you just make it so that everyone knows you have money. And you know what happens if people are behaving in that way? They accumulate capital, which is a great way to get the capitalist flywheel going. Boom. Boom. And Weber argues, and this is a crucial turn, that this Puritan worldview and pattern of behavior persists even after the religious belief falls away. You're not so worried about heaven and hell anymore or whether you're one of God's elect, but you still have this itch to show the world, to show yourself that you are someone special, you know.
42:43And look at Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin wasn't a Puritan. He was a deist. He wasn't so religious as his father. but he still has this desire to make money and to at least present himself as this frugal man, and in fact, to tell the world, you should go make money and not spend it. And we see this to this day. People sort of look down upon the rich son or daughter of some rich family who just jets around the world and goes to festivals and buys expensive clothes. But we look up to those business people who started small, grew their own wealth and sleep under their desk and work, you know, 20 hours a day to accomplish something that is considered virtuous wealth.
43:30Yeah. Yeah. So long after the Puritans. I don't know. I mean, to be clear, you know, Weber's argument was controversial as a sort of work of history. When it came out, it still is. Is it true? I don't know. I do find it resonant. Right. And I don't even know that I personally admire somebody who works 20 hours a day and sleeps under their desk. It depends on what they're working on, frankly. But I certainly get that feeling of the desire to, like, prove through my work that I am whatever good or skilled or something. Right. But I... Chosen. Watch it. And certainly, as you know, having done a story on Costco with me, I love to not spend money.
44:11You are proud of it. You've talked about it on many programs. I've talked about it on many programs. I do feel like Ben Franklin creates this worldview, this way of living that is new, that does persist clearly. I mean, today you have people like whatever, from Elon Musk to Warren Buffett's partner, Charlie Munger, citing Ben Franklin, right? He has clearly created this language, this ethic, this way of being in the world that is profoundly American and that sort of sets the course for business in America to this day. Next week, in part two of our American Genius series, the backlash. This capitalist machinery that Franklin helps to create gets bigger and bigger.
44:57Until finally, around 1900, there is a backlash, a turn in the way America thinks about business. And one of the most important people in driving that shift was a writer, Ida Tarbell. That's next week. Today's show was produced by Gabriel Hunter Chang. It was engineered by Sarah Bouguer. Our video editor, check us out on YouTube. Subscribe, like, hey guys, is Matt Nielsen. And our editor and showrunner is Ryan Boom Boom Dilley. Not an ounce of idleness among them. I'm Jacob Goldstein. I'm Robert Smith. Thanks for listening. Running a business shouldn't feel like surviving a software group project.
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Benjamin Franklin had a full life - he was a scientist, statesman, and a Founding Father. But we're looking at the huge impact he had as a writer of best-selling business books. Franklin first picked up the pen as a poor, downtrodden teenager to write satire, but as he became richer and more successful he instead shared his entrepreneurial insights with the public.
His sayings about time-wasting, thrift and the rewards of hard work were revolutionary. And both his admirers and critics claim his writings caused a profound global shift in how we think about work and wealth.
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