Starbucks' Bitter Brew | Back in Black | 2

14 May 2025 · 43 min

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Business Wars Podcast Episode Summary: Starbucks' Bitter Brew | Back in Black | 2

Podcast Overview Podcast Title: Business Wars Podcast Description: Business Wars explores the competitive battles between major companies and how these conflicts shape consumer behavior and market dynamics. Hosted by David Brown, it provides an in-depth look at the strategies, failures, and triumphs of different businesses.

Episode Overview Episode Title: Starbucks' Bitter Brew | Back in Black | 2 Episode Description: The episode delves into the struggles faced by Starbucks as it navigates labor issues, competition, and leadership challenges under the new CEO Laxman Narasimhan, following Howard Schultz's departure.

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Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Labor Challenges
  2. Unionization Efforts:
  3. In November 2023, baristas from 150 stores participated in a strike, marking the largest in Starbucks' history, coinciding with the promotional "Red Cup Day."
  4. Employees expressed dissatisfaction due to understaffing and low wages, leading to calls for improved working conditions and a collective bargaining process.
  • Leadership Dynamics:
  • Howard Schultz's return as CEO aimed to combat unionization, but his influence creates friction with Narasimhan, who is focusing on reforming the company.
  • Narasimhan struggles with ongoing labor issues despite Schultz's promises to employees during his tenure.
  1. Competitive Landscape
  2. Rising Competition:
  3. Starbucks faces escalating pressure from competitors like Dunkin', McDonald's (with its new concept Cosmix), and others, capitalizing on Starbucks' weaknesses in pricing and service speed.
  4. The market shift toward sweeter, cold coffee beverages, which are more popular among younger consumers, challenges Starbucks' traditional offerings.
  • Shifting Consumer Preferences:
  • Younger generations are favoring cold coffee drinks, leading to a decline in demand for traditional hot coffee options, a segment Starbucks historically dominated.
  1. Financial Struggles
  2. Declining Performance:
  3. By early 2024, Starbucks reports its worst quarterly results, with declines in revenue, net income, and store traffic, leading to significant stock devaluation.
  4. Narasimhan faces criticism for not effectively addressing these financial issues or enhancing customer experience.
  1. Leadership Changes
  2. Executive Shake-Ups:
  3. Amid distressing financial reports, Starbucks’ board considers a leadership change. Laxman Narasimhan is eventually replaced by Brian Nickel, a turnaround specialist from Chipotle.
  4. Nickel's strategy emphasizes returning to the foundational values of Starbucks, focusing on community and customer experience.
  1. Public Relations and Marketing Strategy
  2. Branding Initiatives:
  3. Nickel launches the "Back to Starbucks" campaign to reestablish the company’s identity as a welcoming community coffeehouse.
  4. Efforts include simplifying the menu, returning to traditional practices, and ensuring faster service.
  • Response to Strikes and Labor Relations:
  • As the unionization movement gains momentum, Starbucks implements a new code of conduct aimed at improving customer experience while also addressing criticisms from workers regarding working conditions.
  1. Competitor Responses
  2. Dunkin' Advertising Strategy:
  3. Dunkin' capitalizes on consumer sentiment with a high-profile Super Bowl ad mocking Starbucks’ long wait times and complex drinks, which strikes a chord with consumers.
  • Starbucks’ Advertising Response:
  • Following Dunkin's ad, Starbucks launches its “Hello Again” campaign, aimed at showcasing its core values and inviting customers back into stores.

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Conclusion The episode captures Starbucks' struggle to maintain its market position amidst internal unrest, competitive pressures, and leadership changes. It highlights the complexities of corporate strategy in the face of evolving consumer preferences and significant labor movements. The effectiveness of Nickel's "Back to Starbucks" plan and whether it can rejuvenate the brand remains a pivotal question for the future of the coffee giant.

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Key Takeaways

  • Starbucks is undergoing significant labor and competitive challenges that threaten its market dominance.
  • Leadership dynamics between Howard Schultz and Laxman Narasimhan highlight the tensions in addressing both employee concerns and financial performance.
  • The evolving landscape of consumer preferences, particularly among younger demographics, necessitates strategic adaptations.
  • The response from competitors like Dunkin’ underscores the need for Starbucks to innovate and re-engage its customer base.

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0:07It's November 16th, 2023, in Chicago. We are the union! We are the union! Somebody, somebody, you! On bustling North Broadway, baristas on strike walk a picket line in front of a Starbucks store. Workers at 150 other stores have walked off the job, too. This is the biggest strike in Starbucks history, and it's being held on a big day for the coffee chain. Today is Red Cup Day, an annual event where Starbucks gives customers a free, reusable red cup with the purchase of a holiday-themed drink. But here in Chicago and around the country, Starbucks workers are asking customers to forego their free red cups and instead join them in what they're calling the Red Cup Rebellion.

0:53A reporter with the Associated Press asks a Starbucks worker why they're striking on such a busy promotional day. So we just have basically an infinite amount of drinks, and we're understaffed, and we're underpaid, and we're sick of it. It's been almost two years to the day since workers formed the first-ever union at Starbucks back in 2021. Soon after that, Starbucks' legendary leader, Howard Schultz, came out of retirement to serve his third stint as Starbucks CEO and try to stop the union drive in its tracks. Schultz barnstormed the country with that effort. He even apologized to employees and said Starbucks had failed them.

1:33He promised the company would do better. But the unionization drive continued through Schultz's year-long tenure. Schultz left in the spring of 2023 for what he promised would be the final time and brought in Laxman Narasimhan as the new CEO. A few months into his tenure, Narasimhan had yet to make headway in fixing Starbucks' labor problems. And today, on Red Cup Day, striking Starbucks workers from Seattle to San Francisco to New York are feeling brokenhearted under the new leadership, as this Starbucks worker in Chicago explains. I've actually been a barista for 16 years. Since I turned 18, I started with this company.

2:14I actually love this company, and I love the ideals that this company has stood for my whole life. However, they have not stayed true to those ideals, and that is one of the biggest reasons why I personally unionized, is because they have promised the world to us and they have not delivered. Soon after, Starbucks and CEO Laxman Narasimhan will make another promise to start a collective bargaining process. Company leaders want to finally broker a peace between the chain's increasingly unionized workforce and Starbucks' leadership. But a big fight with Starbucks' leadership is coming anyway. That contest will pit Narasimhan against Starbucks' most iconic leader, Howard Schultz.

2:54which will beg this question. Is Schultz's lasting shadow over Starbucks clouding the company's future?

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5:43You know that feeling you get when you haven't had quite enough coffee? You're not exactly falling asleep, but you're not awake enough either. Well, that's where Starbucks finds itself at the end of 2023. The company's not quite right, not sharp enough. Starbucks may sell millions of cups of coffee a day, but right now, it's the one needing a jolt. In the last episode, it looked like the man who built Starbucks from a little Seattle coffee roaster into the world's leading coffeehouse, might be the person to provide that jolt. Howard Schultz returned to his company to serve as CEO for the third time, and he promised that he could return Starbucks to what Schultz called a third place, a public gathering spot where all kinds of people politely mingle.

6:31And that's what Starbucks was in its early days. But as of Schultz's return, the company was not so much a third place as it was in a bad place. It had labor troubles, and its stores had lost their once-welcoming appeal. Before those problems were fixed, Schultz handed over the CEO job to Laxman Narasimun, who Schultz called his number one draft pick for the position. But Schultz has kept a close eye on Narasimun ever since. And now Schultz, Starbucks' all-time best player, might be getting too close for his number one draft pick's comfort. Starbucks has powerful competitors. and an activist investor breathing down its neck, too.

7:15And that will lead to yet another executive shake-up, one in which a new leader brews up a plan to take Starbucks back to its past. This is Episode 2, Back in Black.

7:34It's December 2023. In Helsinki, Finland, it's sleeting. A group of protesters stands out in the cold, refusing to come inside to a nearby Starbucks store where warm beverages are being poured by baristas. The protesters are boycotting Starbucks because of the war in Gaza.

7:58It's been almost two months since Hamas invaded Israel on October 7, 2023, and Israel responded with an aerial bombardment of Gaza. When that happened, the union representing Starbucks workers posted a pro-Palestine message on social media. Starbucks responded by suing the union for infringing on the Starbucks copyright. That's convinced some customers, or former customers like those boycotting in Finland, that Starbucks has taken Israel's side in the fight. But in fact, Starbucks hasn't taken any official stance on the war. Still, the boycotts are starting to hurt business. especially in the Middle East.

8:38And that comes at an especially bad time. Because right now, Starbucks also has trouble brewing in its second biggest market, China. During the pandemic, Starbucks' business cratered there, falling 17 % from 2019 to 2020. Sales have perked up since then. But in late 2023, a Chinese chain called Luckin Coffee overtook Starbucks as the biggest selling coffee there. And now, amid all that trouble overseas, back in the States, the biggest restaurant chain in the world is about to shake up the coffee scene even more.

9:21It's December 2023 in suburban Chicago. In the darkness before dawn, a line of cars wraps around the block of a brand new McDonald's concept store. There are no Big Macs here, no Quarter Pounders, no McChickens, not even a dining room. This store is drive-thru only. From four different drive-thru lanes, drivers can order lattes, energy drinks, slushies, and bubble tea, plus breakfast sandwiches and ice cream and a handful of snacks. McDonald's calls this concept Cosmix. It's been designed to deliver customers' orders with the speed of a rocket. Get it? But on the first weekend in business at the first Cosmix location, it'll take a while for customers to even place their orders.

10:04Because today, the demand is otherworldly. Outside of the store, news crews film the traffic. Police in yellow vests wave their arms to direct the snarled line of cars. After waiting in line for an hour and eight minutes, one excited vlogger films himself placing his first Cosmix order. Good morning, welcome to Cosmix. What can I get started for you today? Can I get the churro frappe? Pretzel bites? Twisty cone? I don't know what it's called. The one with donuts and stuff in the middle? Oh, the McPops. The McPops. Anything else? That is it. If you're wondering, no. At Cosmix, they don't ask, do you want fries with that?

10:43Because Cosmix doesn't serve fries. What they are serving, though, is a challenge to Starbucks. Cosmix has been designed to hit Starbucks right in its weak spots. Hey, remember back in episode one where we talked about how Starbucks, after Howard Schultz acquired the company, introduced Americans to Italian-style coffee drinks? Those were the days when we all learned the words venti and grande. Well, as Starbucks expanded, it created enough demand for other coffee chains to step in. Pete's and Tim Hortons grew alongside Starbucks, and a lot of smaller local roasters and shops opened too. But as time has gone on, well, Americans' taste for Americanos has changed.

11:27The kind of hot, dark, caffeine-packed drinks that Schultz pioneered are on the decline. Lighter and softer and definitely sweeter drinks are on the rise. Between 2016 and 2023, consumption of cold coffee concoctions more than doubled in the U.S. That trend was driven by younger consumers. If you're between 18 and 39, you probably think black coffee is gross. You're most likely a cold coffee consumer who prefers some kind of sweetener to mask coffee's bitter taste. Older than that, well, you'd probably drink it hot. That means the generations that best remember Howard Schultz's booming coffee chain in the 1990s with those comfy chairs and couches and that dark roast scent, that's stopped the generation that's buying most of what's sold at America's coffee shops.

12:19Think about it this way. If you take your coffee hot and unsweetened, well, you can make it at home in minutes using a pod machine or maybe one of those chunky Italian mocha pods. If you like it cold and caramelly, you're probably getting it at a coffee shop rather than going through a typical 20-hour-long cold brew process. Starbucks offers plenty of those kinds of chilled drinks, of course, but it sometimes struggles to do so. Ever since the pandemic, Starbucks customers have complained about increasingly long wait times for iced coffee concoctions and other drinks. Dunkin', on the other hand, put the pedal to the metal on its speed of service.

12:57Even though Dunkin' is smaller than Starbucks, it has around 64 % more drive-thru locations than Starbucks does. To fix that, Starbucks doesn't just want to add more drive-thrus. It wants to boost its speed overall. The company has just begun what it calls its triple-shot reinvention with two pumps. That plan will fund a revamp of Starbucks stores, which had been designed back in Howard Schultz's days to primarily make hot coffee drinks. With more than 70 % of Starbucks' drinks orders now consisting of cold beverages, well, Starbucks is remaking its equipment, retraining baristas in hopes of making those beverages faster.

13:37But McDonald's doesn't have to redesign anything with Cosmix. It built the concept from the ground up to offer both speedy service and cold drinks, like the Sour Cherry Energy Burst and the Melon Herb Chiller and the sea-salted caramelactic shaken espresso. For now, the suburban Chicago location of Cosmix is the only one that's open, but the mega-chain has plans to open 10 more Cosmix this year in suburbs and cities across Texas, and it hopes more will follow. Just as McDonald's hopes to put a chill on Starbucks' revenues, other big chains are also trying to do the same, albeit in different ways.

14:18Massachusetts-based Dunkin' and Minnesota-based Caribou Coffee tout lower prices, and Oregon-based Dutch Bros, which says it's on a mission to love everyone, has Broistas, who offer ultra-friendly, some even think of it as flirty, service that goes a step above Starbucks. As 2024 begins, those challengers at home and the troubles overseas are about to take a toll that'll be paid right after the opening bell rings on Wall Street.

14:55It's early May 2024 on Wall Street. Minutes before the stock market's open for the day, a distressed Jim Cramer predicts a freefall for Starbucks' stock, which has already sunk in pre-market trading. Jim, when we look at the biggest loser today, it's going to be Starbucks. It's among the worst performers in the S &P 500. Joining us now exclusively is Starbucks CEO Luxman Narasimhan. Mr. Narasimhan, it's good to have you on the show, and I appreciate that you're coming on, despite the fact that the quarter was extremely weak. Jim, it was a very tough quarter. Thank you for having me. That's an understatement.

15:29It was, in fact, Starbucks' worst quarter since the pandemic. And some on Wall Street think it was the company's worst quarter in its entire 53-year history. Starbucks reports that its revenues slumped nearly 2 % and net income fell 15%. In China, sales are down 11%. Worse, customer traffic to Starbucks' stores slumped by 6 % and same-store sales fell 4%. Now, maybe 4 % doesn't sound like all that much, But Starbucks rarely reports same-store declines. And with 6 % fewer customers coming through its doors, Wall Street gets apoplectic about the news. As the trading day begins, Starbucks' stock cascades.

16:16It continues sliding for the next couple of days, losing 17 % of its value to mark a two-year low. The company line from Narasimun is that inflation, which spiked during the pandemic and has not yet been tamed, may have led some occasional customers to forego visits. That makes some sense. As Starbucks releases its terrible earnings report, a hot cup of cappuccino costs$5.50. And if you want a cold caramel ribbon crunch creme frappuccino, well, you better dig deep enough into your pocket to pony up almost seven and a half greenbacks. But Narasimhan is underplaying the bigger story, and he catches heat for doing so in the business press.

16:58Think about it like this. Duncan and Pete's and Tim Hortons have had to deal with the higher cost of coffee beans, too. The fact that fewer people are darkening Starbucks' door to get a cup of that dark roast suggests that something else is going on here. Starbucks' value proposition has long been about pairing great customer service with great drinks, even if those drinks cost more than your average diner's cup of joe. But for much of Nara Simmons' tenure, customers have griped about messed-up orders and a clunky Starbucks ordering app and long wait times at understaffed Starbucks stores. Days after the company releases its concerning earnings, another voice joins the chorus of complainers.

17:41It's Starbucks' visionary leader, Howard Schultz. He posts a screed to LinkedIn. In it, Schultz says that Starbucks has had a fall from grace. He chastises senior management for focusing too much on data and not enough on the Starbucks workers who wear the company's iconic green aprons. Let's rewind here. The most senior manager on the Starbucks payroll is Laxman Narasimun. When Schultz announced that Narasimun would succeed him as Starbucks' boss back in 2022, remember he called Narasimun his number one draft pick. But there were signs of trouble between Schultz and Narasimun just months later.

18:22In early 2023, Schultz brought Narasimun an idea. Schultz had recently watched a New York Giants practice, and he noticed that the Giants' defense was on one part of the practice field, offense on the other, and special teams in yet another. Schultz suggested that Starbucks consider compartmentalizing its store teams, too. Schultz figured that by having workers specialize in just one area, they might be able to break the service log jams the company had been experiencing. Nera Simmon flatly dismissed Schultz's suggestion. He told Schultz that the New York Giants are a football team. Starbucks is a company.

18:59Very different things. Schultz politely laughed off the rejection. But now, in May 2024, his terse LinkedIn post is anything but polite. Soon after, his post causes its own buzz in the business press. Schultz appears on a three-hour-long podcast. And while he's there, he doubles down on his criticism of Starbucks. The company has not executed the way that I think it should have. I go into the stores, you know, like I know the company and I think we're not our best right now. As Starbucks sputters, the scuttlebutt on Wall Street is that Nara Simmon may no longer be the right player for Starbucks' CEO position.

19:43But if Starbucks' number one draft pick can't lead the team to success, then who can? To answer that question, Starbucks' board of directors is about to throw a Hail Mary.

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22:54It's July 2024 in Seattle. At Starbucks' headquarters, Laxman Nara Simmon pulls on a green and white varsity jacket. The Starbucks logo is on one sleeve. Not long ago, Nara Simmon told Howard Schultz that Starbucks is a business and not a football team. But today, he's dressed like a jock and taking the stage for a football-style pep rally with headquarters employees. The company's troubled, but the company has had one big win lately. A few weeks ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the Federal National Labor Relations Board had overextended its authority months earlier by ordering Starbucks to rehire several union activists the company had fired.

23:36That could could have a ripple effect on other labor cases at Starbucks. And yet, today, Nara Simmons' pep rally is being held after yet another tough earnings report. Net income falls again. Put traffic into the stores declines again. And same-store sales slide again. On stage, Nara Simmons waves to the crowd and smiles. He says that despite the bad numbers, he sees signs of a turnaround. But what Nara Simmon doesn't see is that Starbucks' board of directors is plotting behind his back to take him down.

24:23It's August 2024 in Provence, France. Melody Hobson swings open the casement windows inside her European country estate. The 55-year-old Hobson, the chair of Starbucks' board of directors, takes a deep breath. The scent of nearby flowering plants fills the room. But that does little to calm Hobson's nerves. Hobson, who owns this estate and vineyard, along with her husband, filmmaker George Lucas, is waiting on a very important call. This is a call that could change Starbucks' future. For weeks, Starbucks' board of directors has been secretly contemplating making a change at the very top of the organization.

25:04They've told almost no one outside the boardroom, including current Starbucks CEO Laxman Narasimhan. Now, they're ready to move forward with a candidate. His name is Brian Nickel, a 50-year-old executive who swooped in to rescue Chipotle after an E. coli outbreak in 2015 that nearly cratered the company. Starbucks board believes Nickel, who also ran Taco Bell, is the best person in the country to save Starbucks. What they don't know is whether Nickel will take the job. Hobson has asked one of her most trusted associates to ask Nickel if he's interested. Her associate calls with good news. Nickel wants to talk about the job, and he wants to talk to Hobson directly.

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25:51Hobson packs a bag and heads for Southern California, where Nickel lives in Chipotle's headquarter. 25 hours after she received the call about Nickel, Hobson is in Newport Beach, California, to meet with Nickel face-to-face. Nickel is a towering figure, figuratively and literally. The business press has taken care of the figurative part by dubbing Nickel a fast-food guru and saying he wears a messianic halo. That's because he led a remarkable turnaround at Chipotle by effectively communicating Chipotle's renewed commitment to food safety and making major operational changes, including redesigning stores and revamping the chain's mobile ordering app.

26:32As of his meeting with Hobson, Chipotle had twice the revenue it had in 2016, and its stock price was up almost 800%. He's also literally towering, at least over Hobson. At 6 '3", the square-jawed nickel stands more than a foot taller than Hobson does. The two executives flash bright smiles at each other as they meet. But Hobson has reason not to be too cheerful. Hobson, along with the rest of Starbucks' board, is under intense outside pressure. An activist investor hedge fund called Elliott Investment Management has taken a big stake in the company. Elliott is considered one of the most feared investors in the world.

27:17Elliott has forced out board members and executives at Southwest Airlines, Barnes & Noble, and others. It also once wrangled$2.4 billion out of the nation of Argentina after a standoff in which Elliott tried to seize an Argentine naval vessel. Hobson might be able to stop a similar standoff with Elliott if she convinces Nickel to use his messianic halo to become Starbucks' savior. But to land Nickel, Hobson has to agree to some sky-high requests. Nickel wants Starbucks to replace$90 million in stock awards he'll lose at Chipotle, plus offer a multi-million dollar bonus. Combined with other incentives, that could make him a$113 million man at a company where some baristas make about$16 an hour.

28:08And Nickel wants something else. He wants to continue living in Newport Beach, where he takes his youngest daughter to school each day. He asks Hobson to let him use one of Starbucks' private jets to commute to the company's Seattle offices, 1 ,200 miles away. Hobson agrees. Two, all of it. Plus, one more thing. She'll step down as chairman, and Nickel can step in. Nickel insists Hobson won't regret all of that. He tells Hobson that he knows exactly what to do at Starbucks and that its current troubles are nothing more than a speed bump in the company's history. Days later, on a Sunday, the deal is finalized and Laxman Nara Simmon gets the axe.

28:56Brian Nickel is in. But is he really worth 100 million bucks? Depends on who you ask. But at least some people think he might actually be worth 20 billion.

29:15It's August 2024 on Wall Street. Starbucks has just announced Brian Nichols' hire. The stock jumps, creating more than$20 billion in market value in one day. But the news isn't all good. Starbucks is now on its fourth CEO in just three years. And some think Howard Schultz should bear the blame for not getting out of Narasimmon's way. The thinking goes that Narasimha never had a shot to run Starbucks his way. CNBC's Jim Cramer, though, sees things differently, as he explains on his Mad Money show. Behind the scenes now, many are blaming founder and former CEO Howard Schultz for lording over his successor.

29:56I think Howard was more appalled by the lack of contrition than he was by the horrendous execution, which he did not like. But if you're blaming Schultz for firing Luxman, maybe you should thank him. Because he just created$20 billion in value when we learned that they pushed a brilliant CEO from Chipotle. But stock price isn't everything. Starbucks is still a company in crisis. A union movement continues to gain momentum. It's falling farther behind in China. And in the U.S., customers have more options than ever for places to grab a cup of joe. Nickel quickly formulates a plan to address all of that And when he unveils it It won't involve turning Starbucks into a fast food chain like Chipotle Or a rocket-fast operation like Cosmix Instead, he wants Starbucks to be what it used to be Howard Schultz's third place The problem is, right now, that third place is a first-rate mess

31:03It's October 2024 in Seattle. At the Innovation Lab inside Starbucks' headquarters, three green-apron baristas whip up drinks behind a long white counter. Starbucks' new CEO, Brian Nichols, steps in front of the counter and turns his back to the barista's frenzied work. In front of Nichols, a camera crew from Starbucks' marketing team zooms a lens in on the new boss. He buttons his checkered sport coat. A teleprompter flickers on. Nickel has been on the job for just over a month. He's already written a letter to employees outlining his vision for freshening up the coffee company's business. He's dubbed his plan Back to Starbucks.

31:42But today, Starbucks has reported another set of disappointing financial results. So, Nickel is going live to employees with a message. After meditating on the future of Starbucks, this fast food guru has decided that the best way forward is for Starbucks to return to its past. and to Howard Schultz's 1990s vision of the third place. Schultz, who is Starbucks' biggest individual shareholder, isn't mentioned in Nickel's script, but his presence still looms large. The camera crew makes final adjustments and signals to Nickel that they're ready to roll. Okay, Brian, here we go. In three, two... I think, as you know, last month, I made a commitment that we would get back to Starbucks.

32:29That means focusing on what has always set Starbucks apart, a welcoming coffeehouse where people gather and where we serve the finest coffee, handcrafted by our skilled baristas. It's our enduring identity, and it's why millions of customers around the world visit Starbucks every single day. People love Starbucks, but I've heard from some customers that we've drifted from our core, that we've made it harder to be a customer than it should be, and that we've stopped communicating with them. As a result, some are visiting less often. And I think today's results tell that same story. Nickel pauses and takes a deep breath.

33:05As his address goes on, he pledges to employees that they come first, that everything Starbucks does starts and ends with them. And he pledges to give baristas and others the time and tools they need to provide exceptional service. That's a message some, including those working in the nearly 500 unionized stores, are hoping to hear. Nickel points a finger at the camera and hammers home his message. This is the moment of truth. This commitment will drive every decision we make. To succeed, we need to address staffing in our stores, remove bottlenecks, and simplify things for our baristas. We need to refine mobile order and pay so it doesn't overwhelm the cafe experience.

33:47We know how to make these improvements, and when we do, we know customers will visit more often. We must reestablish ourselves as the community coffeehouse. In the days that follow, Nickel begins reestablishing the brand by going on a media blitz. In multiple interviews, the CEO outlines the core of his strategy. He promises to make baristas' lives easier by taking many drinks off of Starbucks' menu. He also says Starbucks will no longer upcharge customers who ask for milk substitutes like almond milk. And the condiment bar, removed during the COVID-19 pandemic, will return. Ceramic mugs and glasses will be available for all beverages consumed inside stores.

34:31For to-go orders, baristas will again be provided with Sharpie markers and asked to write personal messages on paper cups. More comfortable seating options are on the way, too, replacing the cold, uninviting store design Starbucks has used since the pandemic. And the big change? Starbucks commits to deliver a basic cup of hot coffee in 30 seconds and deliver all orders within four minutes. Sounds simple, doesn't it? The thing about simple things, though, is that they're not always simple to do, especially when you have 17 ,000 stores that need new equipment and 228 ,000 employees who may need new training.

35:14Actually, make that 211 ,000 employees. A month after Nichols' address, where he said workers will always come first at Starbucks, the company reports it's cut its total staffing by 8 % during the fiscal year, even though it has added more stores. That's one reason why, as Christmas approaches and demand spikes for new holiday items like the iced sugar cookie almond milk latte, Some employees think that even under new management, Starbucks continues to act like a Grinch.

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38:45It's December 2024 in Los Angeles. As Starbucks' new CEO begins to implement his Back to Starbucks plan, thousands of workers head back out to the picket line. The company and the union have been in negotiations on a collective bargaining agreement. But no such agreement has been reached, even though it's been more than three years since the first Starbucks store unionized. But the two sides remain at loggerheads, and that's prompted a coast-to-coast five-day strike. With workers walking off the job in 45 states, this strike gets plenty of media attention. We've called the Sharks! We've called the Sharks!

39:22It's being called the strike before Christmas. Starbucks baristas expand their strike to 300-plus locations nationwide. And on their fifth and final day, more than 5 ,000 employees from New York to Los Angeles participate. We are fighting for better working conditions and better wages, as well as for them to give us adequate proposals for its employees. The workers who began picketing Friday say they're short-staffed, have unpredictable schedules, unaffordable health care, broken coffee machines, and face harassment on the job and unfair discipline. The strike is the biggest Starbucks has ever seen, and union numbers have continued to grow under nickel.

40:05Now, 550 stores are unionized, representing more than 10 ,000 workers. That's about 5 % of Starbucks' total U.S. workforce. But soon after the strike ends, Starbucks makes a move that some employees had been asking for ever since Howard Schultz made his return to the company back in 2022. The company rolls out a new code of conduct for its stores. It requires patrons to either buy something or get out. The move comes after reports that Starbucks closed stores in San Diego and Los Angeles due to issues involving homeless people sheltering in its stores and using its bathrooms. Some patrons, like one interviewed by a TV news station in West Palm Beach, Florida, welcome the change.

40:50I appreciate it because I do not like all the homeless people that hang out in Starbucks. Nichols says the new code of conduct will give customers more reasons to stay a while. What he doesn't say, not explicitly anyway. is that it may also help Starbucks reestablish its value proposition. You see, what Back to Starbucks is all about is about getting butts back in the seats of Starbucks stores. It's not that Nickel doesn't want a Starbucks customer grabbing and going or drive-thruing. It's that Starbucks wants you, when you're in the stores, to walk out with something more than coffee. They want you to have an experience.

41:29Maybe it's just an easy interaction to get your Pike Place Roast on your way to work, Maybe it's a fun comment a barista leaves on the side of a cup. Or maybe it's the experience of quietly sipping a beverage while writing, or at least trying to write, that great American novel. Whatever the experience. Inside of Starbucks, Nicola's sending a message. A message that the experience is what defines Starbucks' brand as much as the coffee. Actually, he's saying something a little different. He's calling that experience the coffeehouse vibe. And in late January, when the next set of quarterly financials comes out, the vibe on Wall Street is surprisingly upbeat, given the continued slide in the numbers.

42:13Starbucks reports same-store sales fell for the fourth consecutive quarter, dropping another 4%. It also says there was a 6 % dip in visits to its stores. And yet, the stock jumps up almost 3 % as Nickel appears on CNBC to tout the progress. Speaking from the same innovation lab at Starbucks headquarters where he addressed staffers three months earlier, Nickel gives his employees, who Starbucks calls partners, a pat on the back. We're starting to see progress as it relates to our partners being in position, being supported correctly, eliminating some of the noise so that we can get after the great craft, the great quality, and really have people experience the premium experience of Starbucks.

42:58One day later, there's more progress related to Starbucks employees. The company and the union agree to have a federal mediator help end their contract impasse. But just as things appear to finally be looking up, a key competitor decides to roast Starbucks in front of the entire country.

43:24It's February 9th, 2025. Super Bowl Sunday. In New Orleans, the Philadelphia Eagles are pouring it on against the Kansas City Chiefs. And on TV sets across America, Dunkin' is pouring cold coffee all over its competitors at Starbucks. In an ad that cost$8 million to air, Dunkin' has Ben and Casey Affleck and former NFL coach Bill Belichick, starring as members of a fictional boy band called The Dunkings. In a Java jam, The Dunkings face off against the barista buds. The buds are dressed in a suspiciously Starbucks-y shade of green. Dunkings! I'd love to get roasted. But it's the Dunkings and not the barista buds doing the roasting here.

44:08The Affleck brothers take shots at the long wait times and complex menu that has given Starbucks fits in recent years. How much to wait a half hour to get my name spelled wrong on the cup? Nobody wants a goat milk, double half-caf, soy milk cap. You could just brew it. It's beans and water. Oh, damn. Listen, Dunkin's for all of you. America runs on Dunkin'. The ad is a hit. Billboard ranks it as the number one commercial that aired during a lopsided game. Dunkin' is still small beans compared to Starbucks. In 2019, before it was acquired by a group that also owns Arby's and Sonic, Dunkin' made little more than a billion dollars a year.

44:46This year, Starbucks brought in$36 billion. But Dunkin's managed to catch consumers' attention by playing up its blue-collar New England donut shop identity. It also charges less. A large latte at Dunkin' is a buck cheaper than the same drink at Starbucks. But Starbucks thinks it has something that Dunkin' doesn't, and it's about to show that off in its own commercial. Starbucks didn't pay for its own ad during the big game, but it does have big plans for the day after the Super Bowl. The coffee chain has dubbed that Starbucks Day, and it's offering free coffee to sleepy Americans trying to recover from Super Bowl festivities, As it hands out free coffee, the company is also serving up its new branding.

45:32It's now going by the Starbucks Coffee Company. And it's got a new ad campaign to go along, designed around its coffeehouse experience. It's called Hello Again. The ad kicks off with baristas arriving at a Starbucks store at dawn. They throw on the lights, fire up the espresso machines, and get brewing. And it's all backed by ACDC. It starts in darkness. And then suddenly, out of the darkness, energy. Beans ground. Milk froth. Shots poured. Espresso shaking and shaking and shaking and shaking 10 times, no more, no less. 165-degree milk poured into a double shot of dark magic and, ooh, that's the good stuff.

46:17As the ad continues, customers pour into the store and settle into seats. Baristas use Sharpies to squiggle smiley faces onto paper cups. The ad flashes sepia-toned images of Starbucks' original store in Seattle's Pike Place Market. And it closes with drink after drink after drink being handed from baristas to customers. This is the story of coffee and company inspired by Italy we imagine in Seattle. So our baristas are ready. The world's best beans are ready. A little pick-me-up in your cup is ready. That feeling that only the perfect set can give you is ready. The Starbucks you love is ready.

46:59Hello again. Starbucks has welcomed America back to its brand. But is America ready to come back in? Has all that slow service of the past few years and cold store designs and high prices left us with a bad taste in our mouths? Maybe we'd rather run on Dunkin' now or launch ourselves to Cosmix. It's early in Brian Nichols' turnaround plan for Starbucks, so there's not a lot of data to tell us how it's going. But a company called Earnest Analytics reports a worrisome stat. It says Starbucks customers are allocating about 2 % less of their coffee-buying budgets towards Starbucks. Instead, they're putting some of that money towards Starbucks' fast-growing coffee competitors.

47:44All we know for sure is this. A lot of Americans that need their daily caffeine fix. And for a lot of years, more of us have gotten that fix at Starbucks. That won't be an easy habit to break. Or at least, that's what Starbucks is counting on. Under Howard Schultz, Starbucks exploded into a global giant. But somewhere along the way, it started to lose what made it so special in the first place. Stores went from cozy neighborhood cafes to high-volume fast-food-style coffee factories. Over time, this eroded the brand's appeal, especially as competitors like McDonald's and Dunkin' learned how to do fast even better and do it without the hollow trappings of cosmopolitan naming conventions for things as trivial as cup sizes or the controversies that leaning into a public-facing sense of cultural relevance can carry.

48:37And yet, Starbucks still stands alone on the top of the hill of beans that's the retail coffee industry. In his three stints as CEO, Schultz was able to protect Starbucks' first-place position in the business. But he wasn't able to insulate Starbucks from a contentious unionization drive. And when his latest hand-picked successor faltered both workers and customers, Schultz couldn't resist inserting himself into the Starbucks story once more. Now, well, Starbucks has a plan to remain at the top of the coffee business, and it comes straight out of Schultz's playbook, wouldn't you know it? It intends to convince customers that Starbucks still has the good stuff that brought them into the shops in the first place.

49:19Smiling service, that aroma of freshly brewed coffee, a comfortable place to sit, a quickly poured drink that sends you on your way. Time will tell whether this latest reinvention, or should we call it a return to the past, will actually perk up Starbucks' business or leave it feeling a bit decaffeinated.

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From the publisher

It’s 2023 and Howard Schultz’s hand-picked successor as CEO is facing trouble. While employees are voting to unionize, competitors are targeting Starbucks’ perceived weaknesses. Dunkin’ and others are beating Starbucks on price, while McDonald’s hopes to beat Starbucks on speed of service. Starbucks’ bottom-line breaks under that pressure. When it does, Schultz turns against his successor, leading Starbucks’ board to search for yet another leader. The new boss has a new plan, but it sounds old: Turn Starbucks back into the kind of community coffeehouse that Howard Schultz originally built. 

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