Anna Kendrick: Pitch Perfect, Twilight & Relationships (FBF)

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1:58Anna Kendrick, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi! I'm so happy we're doing this. Me too. We've never met. Wait, is it tacky? Should I get rid of my phone? You can put it on silent. Yeah, no, I think it's totally on whatever. But no, I'll just get it out of the way. Okay, okay, okay. Sorry. Just in case you get like an important call. No. Who would be calling you? No one. No one. That's fine. Are you a big texter? Oh, yeah. I'm always like, if you need to get a hold of me, like you're you're gonna have to text me if you want an email back you're gonna have to wait like two weeks you might as well send me a postcard in the mail I'm so bad on my email are you one of those people that has like a thousand plus emails or are you like deleting um I think it was you know that okay so you know that this is not interesting but you know that period between Christmas and New Year's where you're like what do what where are we and like time has no meaning um I was like I'm gonna clean out my email inbox because I did have one of those because it was like well what else are we doing right and I I am one of those people and I hate that about me that I'm one of those people that has like two I have the same thing I and if anyone calls me I immediately don't answer well I'm like did someone die this is bad news this is terrible I don't like confrontation no I don't I don't like communication people I don't know no that's not true mostly but um yeah no yeah you have to text me okay obviously like being an actress now like obviously director but like what is your like day off like what are you up to when you're not working um I'm trying to get mint to grow in my garden I'm trying to I'm trying to really like be a homemaker not a homemaker that's not what I mean I mean I'm trying to like do something physical and tangible that I can go like wow I and I grew this mint and now I'm putting it in a cocktail because that's as close as I'm ever going to get to cooking.

3:45And I don't know, there's something about like devoting your entire life to this very weird thing of like pretending to be another person and, you know, like crying on cue in front of a room full of people you met three days ago and whatever that you're like, I don't make anything physical. You know what I mean? Like, so I feel like I'm always trying to find, like, I should really take up knitting or something like I just want to like make something that I can hold and go like I made this okay to give you a little bit more credit you are making something that I mean like I mean it's not like it's not real but there is just something like fleeting about it or I don't know are you having an existential crisis right now constantly this whole episode is us just trying to figure out like what is the meaning of being an actor and life no but I get what you're saying you're like I want something tangible, a.k.a.

4:37mint. It's a little odd that mint is the one thing in your garden. It goes in a lot of cocktails. What? Are you making good cocktails? I'm trying. Yeah. Yeah. When I moved, I was like, I want to be able to like have people over and be able to offer them a refreshment. But like, I'm never going to cook. That's never going to happen. Okay. Pretend I come over. What are you making me for a drink? Well, do you have like a specific? I like tequila and vodka. So I'm kind of like, I can go either way. I like a Moscow Mule I like a margarita Moscow Mules are super super easy So we love that But there's like a watermelon vodka cocktail that I like I also feel like people tend to come over and say That they drink anything but gin But gin makes great cocktails Like drinking gin straight is for crazy people I don't know what that's about But it makes really great cocktails Especially if you want to serve something up And also if you want to commit to doing an egg white foam it gets it's really easy and people are like absolutely blown away that you've created I'm blown away already we an egg white foam yeah the key is doing a dry shake in your shaker but with the egg white um before you add ice and then it will really and then you add all the other ingredients and then add ice and then it will actually like stay foamy and you know just put a little like sprig of lavender or something on top and like people are like oh my god how did you do this me i'm the dumb bitch that's like well then that's what i would make for you so that so that you want me impressive yeah that's okay that's good to know what is one thing you can't leave the house without um oh god um probably chapstick like i'm one of those people that i have like a i have like a drawer full of chapsticks and yeah same yeah and i like all the different flavors and the oh yeah what's your go-to um i really like the burts bees there's like a pomegranate one are you fucking with me no you you're fucking with me no what no laughing what's happening you fucking talk to someone are you doing a bit on my life on my dad sold no absolutely what is happening Anna you are not about to do that to me right now you don't understand that's sick no you don't get it I might have it in my fanny pack I'm not joking you brought a fanny pack you know what we're I'm doing a lot right now don't make fun of my fanny pack first of all that's it now I feel like you're fucking with me no that's crazy okay I have a I feel like you just I feel like you're like the mentalist like you're chris angel and you're like you mean this whichever one you said you're like road lipstick I'm like boom because I also like the sweet violet but I was like well that's not really I guess that's a tinted lip balm I don't that's something else so I was like pomegranate I like the pomegranate too because it gives you that a little bit of a tiniest the tiniest hint yeah I what's happening we and I'm not kidding you I thought you were doing a bit no where you were like fucking with me wait have you like talked am I an idiot have you like no everyone that like really really knows me like you know the Arthur meme where he's like got the fifth yeah I always have this in and anywhere you look like any interview I'm doing I have it somewhere in my body and I have an entire bowl in my house and every single sweat bowl I have a bowl in my house of all the pomegranate next to my bathroom sink and I just pick one up every day and I open a new one and I use it until I lose it and then I go back I love it this is weird this is weird I don't like it creepy it's really creepy but I think the reason I love chapstick so much is because I have this feeling it's like the ick of myself as if I don't have my lips somewhat moisturized I feel like that is goes and is like almost contingent with having bad breath?

8:19Like, I feel like when you see someone with chapped lips, you're like, they must have bad breath. Ooh, yeah. I don't know. No, I think that, yeah, I haven't thought about it, but like subconsciously, yeah. Yeah, you're like, I'm just going to lean away. Okay, so you're a chapstick girl. Yeah. Good to know, so you probably have good breath. Haven't gotten close enough to you today, but we'll see later. What is the most high-maintenance thing about you? Probably my hair. Because I'm like a secret curly. What? I'm like a secret, like, like, like Carrie Russell and Felicity level curly. You have gorgeous hair.

8:53Well, you know, it's not really what my hair looks like. Um, uh, yeah. And I, I've been like, I haven't like, I, I've, I wore, I started, I was on like a natural, like, you know, curly hair, um, journey. Like I let my therapist see me with my like real hair. Oh, that's big steps. Um, and like, like two of my best friends in my house have like come over and I'm like, I should let you know that I have let my hair dry naturally and I'm in a very vulnerable place because it I just it was one of those things that I always felt like um messy because I think like when I really started to be like oh I need to like start learning how to like blow out my hair and whatever was when like pin straight hair was it um it was when like tiny butts and super straight hair was the the height of female attractiveness um so I just felt like yeah I don't know almost like the chapped lips things where I was just constantly like doing that you know just trying to um uh like make my hair be like flat um and when uh it would get like frizzy if I would go to a concert or whatever I would just be like freaking out about it like humiliated but you're like I have to leave I have to leave the concert and I was thinking about like um like all the fucking energy and time that I think we all spend without even thinking about it about like okay well okay if I wash my hair at this time and then how long is it gonna take to do my blowout and if I shave my legs on this day I'll have stubble for that well but like and just it's always just running in the background it's exact it's exhausting it's so exhausting and it's so dumb because we notice so much more about ourselves like I bet if you had your curly hair here I'd be like oh I love your curly hair we what did your therapist say to you when did you do like a big reveal like I'm gonna I'm gonna show you now yeah was it on zoom or in person it was on zoom oh um and I think it I think it was like I I was still like this is so boring but I I was still like self-conscious about it so I pulled back like you know I did like a half up half down thing and so she was sort of like oh where are you going like that it was you know that it was like it just looked different because I usually just like wear it in like a bun and a headband right Right.

11:00So I think she thought that I was like going somewhere. So I was like, well, that's that's encouraging. She wasn't like, what happened? But yeah, I'm still like, I'm still on a journey. Well, you know what? We're going to support you on that journey. Your hair looks amazing today, but I bet it would also look amazing if it was curly. OK. Anyways, you've been making movies for two decades. What do you think you would be doing if you hadn't pursued acting? oh god I I god help me I don't know what I I really don't I mean uh I feel like obviously I didn't get into show business because I hate attention so there's that piece um like I'll when people ask me that question I feel like I'll usually just say like oh I'd have a bakery or something but like I don't know I would be so screwed like I actually remember when um when I was 17, 18, whenever I, whenever I like moved to LA, I was really, really jealous of all my friends that were going to college.

12:04Number one, cause I felt really insecure about not going to college. I have a whole, you know, complex about it. But I was also, you know, on the phone, like hearing about this exciting new chapter that was sort of laid out for them and, you know, going to classes and joining a sorority and, you know, having this like immediate community. And I was in L.A. I was like 17 or 18. It's really hard to make friends in L.A. because of like the way the city is laid out. But especially when you don't have a fake ID. And even if I did, I looked about 12. So that wasn't going to work anyway. And I was just like absolutely terrified and really wondering if I was like making a huge mistake.

12:51And then the weirdest thing was that when everybody entered their sophomore year, I was still like just, you know, trying to get in the door and all that. But I then noticed that when I would get on the phone with friends of mine who were in college, they were suddenly, all of them, sophomore year, having a total crisis. Because freshman year was like, this is so exciting. And there's this new chapter. And like my whole life is ahead of me. and I'm making these friends. And in sophomore year, it felt like, okay, I'm back with the same people and that's great. And I'm picking my classes for this year and that's great.

13:30But what do I want to do with my life? Like there's no longer just the excitement of like, oh my God, frat parties and, you know, the college experience. It's like, oh, I have to figure out what I want. And so even though the thing that I wanted felt like a total pipe dream. and like what am I doing this is a disaster it's so hard to carve out a space for yourself in this industry but on the other side of it holy shit I did not think like what a blessing to just know what I want and I was like watching all my friends go oh my god I don't know what to what I want what to do it's so interesting like because I I went to college and I remember from a young age I like knew I wanted to be in Hollywood like I knew I wanted to create I knew I wanted to do something in this industry but my mom kept just being like no you have to do school you have to do school and then you can do it later and I resented that so much for a while but hearing like the difference like again everyone wants what they don't have of like being in college wishing by sophomore year I was like get me the fuck out of here I know exactly what I want to do but you being like watching all the kids in college and you being like that was a big insecurity of mine like why was it an insecurity though because you were like I don't have an education technically of totally interesting so I think my family really values um like traditional education um you know for good reasons bad reasons whatever um and so I was like the first person to not go to college um and my dad was a teacher and everything so it was like very black sheep behavior to not go to college.

15:11Were they okay with you not going to college? Yeah. I mean, I think they knew I was going to do what I wanted to do. Um, but, uh, I think there was always that sense of like, well, if things maybe don't work out that first year, it's not too late to just, you know? So I think that was always like something that they had in mind, but, um, I don't think they were thrilled, which is understandable um but yeah I then like just worried about like oh my god I didn't I didn't go to college you know I don't know it's like I get it I think it's like in a great way I do think like the concept of education now is becoming a little bit more lenient where people are like you don't need to go to college to be xyz and it's interesting because you were right on the right path but because of like societal standards of like if you're smart you go to college it probably felt so disorienting when you're watching all these people do like the natural next step really you just skipped a big step and then you got ahead on your career but it doesn't mean you can't still feel insecure about it of like in conversation having to be like oh I didn't go to college like I get that especially if your family was like go school go school and your dad being a teacher totally and I think now that I'm like older it's less of a thing but like early 20s you know that's like part of the conversation is like oh where'd you go to college yes I didn't like how oh my god I have to say I didn't and by that at that point like you know like 21 22 I didn't really have much to show for it yet you know like then some things happened and you know it was less of an issue but yeah you're like oh I didn't go to college because I wanted to become an actor and it's like how's that going well you know I think I gotta someone's I'm hearing my phone rings so yeah right they're like what are you and you're like be back soon gotta go I get that um talking about your family though you were raised in Maine right born and raised in Maine what were you like as a kid I think I was really um like hyper vigilant like I was really in everybody's business a little bit um but I think that I was even thinking like a couple weeks ago about how I do, one of my many toxic traits is I do kind of walk around with like a little bit of a, all right, who's trying to fuck me over, you know?

17:30And I was like, I don't know, there's a chance that it's like, oh, you're spelling bedtime? You think I don't know what's happening here? You know, like just, I don't know, just being real aggressive about like how I wanted things done and like very opinionated. But I don't I can't really tell if that comes from childhood or from like working in an industry where I'm sure you've experienced. It's like you agree to certain things and then it's like, oh, and can we also do this thing that would be really humiliating for you and not like pay you any extra money or check with you in advance and ask you in front of a group of people.

18:09So if you say no, you'll look like a bitch, you know, so I'm just always like, all right, who in this room is trying to fuck me over? That's so interesting that you're like, did that happen when I was young? Or is it just like something I can't not remember? Because you started in the industry at what, like 10 you started really getting into it? Yeah, I started kind of auditioning for things when I was 10 and I booked my first gig when I was 12. um so but I mean I wasn't auditioning all the time because I lived in Maine and so either one of my parents had to drive me to New York City for like a 15 minute audition and they were like well sweetie we love you but Jesus um so eventually um my brother and I would take a Greyhound bus from Maine to New York and that's one of the situations where uh we were in that I auditioned for this show that I ended up getting and we were in New York and they asked me um are you cool to like stay for a callback tomorrow and I was always just told like we'll just say just say yes you'll figure it out later so I was like absolutely I will see you tomorrow no problem and my brother and I like then are just like okay we need to find a hotel in New York City Anna what are you 11?

19:28I'm 12 he's 13 or 14 and so uh we found a hotel and my parents called the hotel and faxed a credit card and told them like yes yes we'll be along shortly and they're in Maine um and so I like wash my underwear in the sink and then just like put on this I mean luckily there is like a thing where if you get a call back you're it's kind of conventional wisdom that you should wear the same thing so that didn't seem like I was the gross kid with one pair of clothes same underwear um but uh so then the next day the same thing happened and again it was like no problem I will see you again in the morning and had to do it again um and then uh they oh that's right they uh they did ask me because I was wearing combat boots and they were like can you because the part was for like a little rich girl okay so they were like could you like wear something like you know we just love to see you in in more of a kind of sunday best outfit and um and and specifically someone mentioned my shoes so i was wearing this like ratty cardigan and like ripped jeans and these like combat boots but i was like ah the solution will be to go to the nearest Payless and find like white church strappy sandals.

20:50And so like with like the last $20 that we had, I like bought this pair of sandals, like dress sandals and wore those with my ratty cardigan and jeans and, uh, and then like wandered in and I think they were just like, oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah, fine. Whatever. Great. Um, and then we were on a Greyhound bus home and we had this phone for emergencies and that rang and it was like hey you're gonna be on Broadway I'm like trying to picture 12 year old me walking around in New York City with my brother who's two years older than me I'm like how the hell were you not even scared I think that we just thought it was like such an adventure and I think we also like wanted to be like cool New York City kids so fucking bad right that we were just like yeah this is so normal um I can't remember if we were like low-key freaking out or not but we I know that I mean even when I went there um at 17 I did this show at New York City Opera and I remember like riding the subway to work and seeing like oh my god you know you see those gorgeous girls who are like going to American ballet yes um and being like and like looking at them and being like we're really doing it oh my god I'm in New York and I'm going to work and I'm going to work on the subway and it's like not a big deal at all which if you're thinking about it like that it's a huge fucking deal to you I was not I had no chill um but that was but that's sweet yeah okay all of this is happening I know that you were nominated for a Tony Award when you were just 12 so it came from that yeah yeah yeah okay what did kids in school think it's weird again like I don't know if you've experienced something like this but there were several moments where it felt like if I mentioned anything to the kids at school they don't get me wrong understandably sort of thought I was like talking about something else like like it like in the same way that if someone in my school in like middle school or high school had been like oh yeah I'm going to a Olympic trials I would be like so there's some kind of Like local, like, oh, it's the Olympics.

23:03You know what I mean? Like, I would just be like, no, you're not. Like, because that just doesn't make sense because we're from Maine. Like, what are you talking about? I remember having like a really little indie film in the Sundance Film Festival when I was 16, 17 and going to Sundance. And I remember one of my close friends, one of my like best friends called me and was like, that's so weird. There's something on the news about, I think it was, I could be getting this mixed up, but I think it was like the year that Britney Spears and like Fred Durst went to Sundance together. There's something, maybe I'm hallucinating.

23:41It was some other story. I don't know. But she called me and she was like, yeah, they're at like the Sundance Film Festival. And isn't that so weird? Because you were just saying that you're doing something called Sundance, but it's like happening at the same time. And I was like, I'm at Sundance. I'm at the Sundance. I'm at the Sundance film. That's why I was so fucking excited about it. Right. You're like, I'm here with Britney Spears. Yes. And like she was like a close friend. So I think like there's an understandable thing that happens where you're just like, yes, not you. They just didn't get it.

24:10Not from here. They didn't get it. So and you didn't talk about it over the top, where like people would even have a concept of it. No, no. I mean, even I think there was a luckily very brief window where it was kind of like a teasing situation so it was like I knew better than to be like running my mouth about it too much because people would make fun of you yeah isn't that so weird meanwhile it's like everyone wants to be a movie star I don't know I think just drawing any attention to yourself in middle like particularly this was like in middle school like right after I did the the Broadway show it's like you just want to disappear like I think people talk about high school as being cutthroat middle school oh was so much scarier to me it was so horrible I completely agree high school's actually like I started to get my shit together middle school I was terrified yeah I remember feeling like just like trying to be like a moving pile of laundry you know just wearing like the biggest clothes and just trying so fucking hard not to draw any attention to yourself yes so you obviously start to become so successful like was your family like oh this is normal you know I found some success and then I think this is pretty typical for for entertainment stuff that like the money really follows like several years later there's that period where you're like okay I'm like low-key a little famous but I am so fucking broke it would make you tear up how broke I am.

25:44So you're kind of trying to fake it till you make it. But like I had brought my family to the Oscars and, you know, there was a really interesting moment a few years later when I like bought my first place and I had them at my place and it was like you could feel the energy, particularly for my mom and dad of like oh okay okay okay and it wasn't a mansion but it was just like oh you're gonna be okay because they were obviously like very proud and but there's things with like awards and reviews where that's great but it's still really abstract yeah and to just see something solid where it was like okay our crazy you know daughter who didn't go to college like has managed to buy a home you know it was like I could feel not so much like pride but that they were actually like oh you made it okay okay okay yeah it all worked out like we don't have to worry about now her like going back to college and trying to figure out something else completely she's not gonna move in with us and like drain us dry yeah love um you've been in so many great movies I want to talk to you about a few of them today we got to start with pitch perfect obviously

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30:04And I was like, well, I know how to do this thing. There's a cup and there's this song and I could do that. So it was just because I was like, well, where else am I going to do it? Because I was like lame enough and dorky enough to have bothered like learning this thing. and so I did it for my audition and they were like we should put that in the movie and originally in the script like Becca, my character's audition song was I'm a Little Teacup which I keep meaning to ask the writer Kay Cannon like was that meant to be like funny? How would that have worked? How was I supposed to play that? I don't know what I was supposed to do.

30:43Would you have gone like chill? Was I supposed to like do like a Christina Aguilera version of I'm a little teacup? Or was it supposed to be like, like, oh, I resent that I have to do this, but I sound fine, so they let me in the group? How do you think you would have done it? I guess like that. I mean, I would have been relying on somebody to tell me what the vibe was supposed to be. Right. But luckily, I didn't have to figure that out. So they were like, well, let's do that for Becca's audition. And I was like, great. I'm making use of a useless skill. And then people, when they saw the movie, like would ask about it and stuff and so then the studio was like we should release this as a single and I was like what are you fucking stupid that's so embarrassing I'm so embarrassed for us um so they had me like go into the studio for like 20 minutes a hit that was made in 20 minutes um and just like sing the rest of the song and I was like in there with a stool and a cup doing the cop in this weird studio.

31:43And then they were like, what if we did a music video? And again, I was like, are we, what's going on? This is so, you guys, I'm so embarrassed for you. Like, I just was like, there's no way anybody would care about this. Like I, whatever. Um, and so we like make this music video and then it like, which is by the way, why am I saying this phrase why is this phrase coming out of my mouth it started climbing the charts like why is this a part of my story and my life like I was just like what's what is fucking happening this is so out of the realm of anything that's supposed to be happening and I always thought like because I was in the middle of making this like indie film and I'd be getting like texts from people going like it just like got into the top 10 of like billboards top 100 and i was like in the basement of some church like shooting this tiny little indie film meanwhile i think it was like i think it was speaking of the times miley cyrus and macklemore was was like in also in the top 10 and so i i always just think like they must have been like what the fuck is this shit literally Like who is this girl?

32:58What is this? How dare you? I'm out here like busting my ass on Good Morning America, putting on a live performance. And this like freak show, whatever this fucking is, is in the top 10. How dare I? What on earth? Anna. I would hate me. I would hate me. Did you ever learn to be like, damn, that shit's good? They did send me a platinum record. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. Bye, bitch. That's literally perfect. That was pretty cool. You're like, I guess it was kind of good. I'm like, guess what? I got my quantum record. That's insane. That you're like, this is so fucking embarrassing, you guys.

33:31And meanwhile, it's like the entire world learned this shit. I remember trying to learn it, Anna. OK. No, you did not. Oh, I tried. Of course. Everyone. Oh, I tried. Shut your face. I couldn't really do it. You shut your face. You fucking invented it. It's so crazy that you brought that to the movie. And they were like, yes. OK. I just realized also while you were talking, which is fun, is I have had on you, Brittany Snow, Adam Devine, and I have had on Rebel. Oh my god. I have almost had like the entire cast. Yeah, you're like collecting all the Pokemon. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of having a good time.

34:07How would you describe your guys' friendship on that cast? Honestly, I use this word in the truest sense of like we are a family, like truly in the sense of like we didn't choose each other. Like we didn't ask to be in each other's lives in this way. And we're so bonded. And it does feel there's something really, not to be lame, there's something really magic about it. Because so often like you'll do a big job and there'll be like one or two people maybe that you keep in touch with. And they're the people that are like the most similar to you. And we're all really, really different. and after like three movies you're like I think this is like a not getting rid of each other kind of situation I think the entire world is happy it's a not getting rid of each other situation and also I think that I'm I'm very avoidant so like actually like cracking that shell and like being in my life like it takes some persistence that's a big deal so uh like Brittany's always joking that her she's like well your phone is all all white or whatever the you text yeah you get it you get it um because she's like always texting me and just being like i know you're not gonna reply but um you know i think that i'm kind of like certainly the curmudgeon of the group but it is like almost like everybody has a role yeah and you know like you know britney kind of like brings the party and i um bring the grumpiness i guess i don't know um but i am like It's really interesting because even the girls that are not one of the closest girls, when they're going through something, I get the call.

35:54And it makes me feel so good because I do feel like that's kind of my role in the group. If you're in jail, my shoes are on. We're getting you out tonight. I don't know how, but we're going to figure it out. I love it. Whereas like if you need help with like party invitations, like I'm going to freeze up and be like, I don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know. I have to leave the room right now. Call Brittany. Yeah. Call Brittany. Please call Brittany. It's so fun to know that you and Brittany Snow are so close because it I don't know. It like set something right in the world.

36:25Like I like that you guys are friends. I think it also is nice because obviously as like consumers, we know that sometimes on movie sets like people don't get along. And there's something oddly satisfying about how amazing those movies are. And knowing you guys are so close. Like, it's just a fun thing for fans. It makes me really happy. I saw some of the girls from the movie, the original The Craft, having dinner once. And I was like, you guys are friends of real life. It makes you happy. Oh, my God. It made me so fucking happy. So I would be like, oh, I wouldn't think anyone would, like, care.

36:58We care. But seeing the Craft girls, I was like, this is so beautiful. It means so much to me. So now when people are crying, when they see you guys out together, you get it. Totally. Are we getting a fourth one? Oh, I have no idea. I'm always like, I'm always like, Rebel is kind of like the steam train of the group. Come on, Rebel. Like, she's always like, I think we should do it. And I'm like, well, then great. We should. I agree. I'm just here for, I'll just be backup, I guess. We need it. I would love that because like, we're all so busy and I'm so happy that everybody's so like busy and successful and doing so much that actually getting like whatever you know the 10 of us in a room is like impossible so it's usually like maybe six of us at a time you know trying to like uh have a little reunion so it does feel like the thing that would actually get us all in a room again is like the movies so that's that's my best reason i will watch so let us know um twilight can you believe can you believe i mean what okay so someone was just asking me about like a while ago i had you know done a silly funny tweet where i just said like holy shit i just remembered i was in twilight and people were like but you didn't like forget you didn't forget that you were in twilight and the answer is truly truly yes and no because obviously obviously i didn't forget the experience of making the movies I didn't you know but those movies like especially at the time took on such a life of their own and like they were such a kind of like for for better or for worse like a kind of touchstone like like such a reference that you know everybody would talk about like trying to find the next twilight or whatever and I would find myself in like business conversations talking about oh yeah I've heard that that there's a book series that just got optioned you know they maybe want to try and make it the next twilight and then I would be like oh my god I'm in oh my god I'm in the movie oh my god because I was also so on the uh just on the outside had a front row seat but was just on the outside of the madness of it and I was really like lucky to not be dealing with the the eye of the storm really you know um I think that like a lot of the folks that were in the movie even in the later movies where they are playing like as long as you were a supernatural character if you had one line you like couldn't leave your hotel room people were crazy and and you know people were criticizing like oh but she has green eyes in the book or whatever and I just didn't have to deal with any of that so so on the it's almost feels like I didn't really have to run the gauntlet that some of the other I mean most of the other people did I just had to like show up and say dumb funny shit and just be like what are you guys talking about because they're fucking acting weird okay everybody's really serious bye like that was the that was the gig it was awesome Jessica oh my fucking god Jessica being like what's so great about Bella like I don't get it like what's going on with Bella which is also crazy because when I auditioned for that I was like yeah I think in the book she's like the blonde athletic volleyball all Captain Popular Girl.

40:18So I was like, well, great. I'm not getting this job. And the goal then becomes like, well, I hope I just like make an impression on the casting director and the director. So maybe they'll remember me for something else. Right. And so I was like, well, I'm just going to like try to be like weird and funny because I don't know. And then they were like, oh, great. Yeah, let's do that. So there I am with like my with my headband, because like in that humid weather, they didn't know what to do with my hair full circle. They were like, It just keeps getting bigger. So it was always in a headband or pulled back really tight.

40:52And in my ratty little costume, five inches shorter than Kristen, going like, I don't even get what the point is. Meanwhile, she's so stunning. You're like, oh my god, I'm staring into the eyes of a Siberian husky. She's so gorgeous. I mean, she's gorgeous on screen, but in person. Have you met her in person? No. There's a quality, let me tell you. Really? Oh my god it's breathtaking And she's obviously very beautiful And sometimes you meet certain people and you're like What how dare you Why are you doing this to me So you know the audacity Of me to be like I don't see I don't see it I don't get it Right you're like Were you ever like I'm being annoying Or you're like it's fine it's my role Yeah I guess it was like I'm being annoying Which means like I'm doing what I'm supposed to be annoying You're doing your job I'm obsessed with you being like they trying to put my hair down and I'm like I don't know what to do I know it all comes real circle circle um okay next movie Alice Darling this is like obviously a bigger shift and is a basically is about a woman in an emotionally abusive relationship when you're taking on a more intense role like do you hesitate in those moments or do you enjoy those type of moments that are a little bit darker?

42:09It was, oh gosh, that's weird. I'm about to use a phrase that I've been using in reference to directing. So, but it, it kind of makes sense because it's a similar thing where it was like pushing myself off of a cliff and not giving myself the time to go, is this a good choice? Because it was like, it was really scary and personal and god I'm just remembering like I remember I didn't tell I haven't thought about this in a while I didn't tell anybody in my life not my like well this was also kind of COVID-y so I wasn't talking to that many people so again I'm bringing up my therapist but I didn't tell my therapist I didn't tell like my closest friends that I was making this movie about emotional abuse because I had just gotten out of a relationship that was extremely similar to the movie.

43:03And I didn't want anybody to tell me to not do it. Like I didn't want to get talked out of it. And I knew that there were good reasons for my friends and certainly my therapist to be like, is this the best idea for you like right now? So I just kept telling them it's about like three friends in a cabin and like it's about like their relationships which in a way it is right but um yeah I I like didn't even when after the movie was wrapped whatever like they didn't even know that it was about emotional abuse until like the trailer came out because I just didn't I just didn't want somebody to tell me well I don't know maybe this is the childhood thing of like I don't want you to tell me it's bedtime like I need to do this I'm gonna do this can I ask like how long did that um abusive relationship that you endured last um it was it didn't follow the traditional pattern which is kind of yet another reason why I was finding it really difficult to identify it and name it as abusive okay um because I was like reading all the articles and going like this doesn't look like some of it looks like how they're describing it but not completely and um So the relationship was seven years.

44:16Okay. But it was like an overnight switch. And that went on for about a year. So it didn't follow that more traditional, like, it's like a frog in boiling water thing where it started slow. It came out of absolutely nowhere but was built on this foundation of I had so much love and trust for that person. So I thought it had to be me. Like I, if one of us is crazy, it must be me. Um, so it was very, very, um, difficult, um, to actually go, no, this, I think this is, I think this is him. I think, I think this is his stuff. because I turned my life completely upside down trying to fix whatever was wrong with me.

45:06And, you know, it didn't help that for a long period of time our, like, couples therapist, I think, just bought his stuff kind of hook, line, and sinker. And I've had several sessions with him in, you know, the last several years where he's apologized to me because I think he realized what was going on, like, right toward the end. but um yeah that obviously made everything a lot more complicated we always have to remember like therapists are human beings too and a lot of times they don't know the inner dynamics and if you are with a very manipulative person though that is good in crowds like they can mask it pretty easily and you can be kind of painted to be the person that's like insane or you're unreasonable or you're like unwilling to make the relationship work and when you have a licensed person staring at you next to the person that is abusive.