Cardi B: Drama, Divorce, & Diggs

24 Sep 2025 · 1 h 4 min

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Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast Title

Call Her Daddy

Episode Title

Cardi B: Drama, Divorce, & Diggs

Episode Description

In this episode, Alex Cooper interviews Cardi B, who discusses her music, personal experiences, and insights into fame. Cardi shares her thoughts on body image, relationships, and the pressures she faces in the music industry.

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Key Discussion Points

Introduction

  • Host and Guest: Alex Cooper welcomes Cardi B, expressing excitement about having her on the show.
  • Cardi's Outfit: Discussion on Cardi's outfit, showcasing her personal style and connection to her partner.

Music Career Insights

  • New Album Pressure: Cardi discusses the pressure she feels surrounding her new album, releasing after nearly seven years since her last full album.
  • Expectations: Concerns about public reaction and the challenge of meeting fans' expectations.
  • Artistic Integrity: Cardi emphasizes that she cannot always produce the same type of music that her fans expect.

Personal Life and Relationships

  • Ideal Night Out: Cardi describes her preference for clubbing over lounging and her excitement about partying in cities like New York and Miami.
  • Celebrity Interactions: Shares memorable experiences with other celebrities, particularly a fun night with Megan Thee Stallion.

Body Image and Surgery

  • Body Positivity: Cardi opens up about her experiences with body image and the misconceptions surrounding her surgeries.
  • Self-Acceptance: Despite social pressures, Cardi asserts she's comfortable with her body and choices.
  • Surgery Misconceptions: Discusses how people often misunderstand her motivations for undergoing surgeries.

Jealousy in the Industry

  • Female Rivalry: Cardi talks about the jealousy among female rappers, attributing it to relatability and competitiveness in the industry.
  • Handling Criticism: She reflects on how she manages public scrutiny and fan expectations.

Personal Experiences and Growth

  • Divorce: Discusses her personal growth post-divorce and the lessons learned from past relationships.
  • Advice for Others: Shares insights on dealing with difficult times and the importance of having a backup plan in pursuing dreams.

Games and Fun Segments

  • Confess or Text Game: Engages in a playful game where she answers juicy questions or texts someone instead.
  • Wop or Flop Game: Discusses various hypothetical scenarios in a light-hearted setting, showcasing her humor.

Upcoming Music and Creative Process

  • Album Title: The album is titled "Am I the Drama?", reflecting her experiences and the drama that often follows her.
  • Creative Process: Cardi elaborates on the intense work that has gone into her upcoming album and her commitment to her craft.

Final Thoughts

  • Fans' Takeaway: Cardi hopes fans will connect with her new album on multiple levels, recognizing her fun, pain, and dedication to her music.

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Key Takeaways

  • Authenticity: Cardi emphasizes the importance of being true to oneself in a highly scrutinized industry.
  • Empowerment: She encourages listeners to embrace their individuality and pursue their passions despite challenges.
  • Mental Health: Acknowledges the toll that fame and public scrutiny can take on mental health.

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Conclusion This episode of *Call Her Daddy* with Cardi B offers a candid look at the artist's life, addressing serious topics with humor and authenticity. Cardi's unique perspective on fame, relationships, and artistry resonates throughout the discussion, making it both entertaining and enlightening for listeners.

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0:02What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Cardi B, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi, Daddy. I have to tell you, you have been on my dream guest list since I started the show. So to be here with you, no, it's like you don't even get it. It's an honor. Thank you for being here tonight. Thank you. Very excited. We need to talk about your outfit. Yeah. How did you pick this tonight? Well, I wanted to do a jersey, but I wanted to do my style and stuff like that. and I was like well I mean like I was calling my man so I could show him but he's just he sleep by this time you know I'm saying he he he sleep right now he gonna sleep right early so on the back of that jersey what is the name Mr.

0:51Diggs congrats you look very happy the jersey is fucking amazing it's so cute um okay wait so I heard you had a late night last night almost into the morning you were at the studio what were you doing no I wasn't at the studio I was actually doing a music video with Kehlani and we finished like around 5 a.m. So I got like in like a at 5 30 and we did like freaking five wig changes and I'm like I don't know how am I gonna wake up early in the morning like I am so tired. It was like seven different scenes. I was oh. Are you a night person? I am a night person but I was up from 6 a.m. to all the way to 5 a.m.

1:30so I was just tired. How do you feel about this new album coming out? I feel really good. You do? I do really feel I feel really good a little bit of pressure because it's been almost seven years it is a little bit of pressure because um I feel like people people gonna want to be mean just because they feel like it's like oh well we waited seven years for this so some of them are just gonna talk shit because they just want that and then it's like you know what it is you guys want like these poppy wap records and is that we I can't always give you that you know what i'm saying you can't always go with that little trap trap sound and stuff do you drink yeah do you go out and party still hell yeah what is an ideal night out for you and your friends an ideal night out with my friends so i noticed one thing i am not the type of person that like to lounge and then club i like to go straight club and then after like some people i didn't know that people pregame so much they like to go to dinner they like to smoke kuka then they like to go to the club no honey i'm too tired for that shit i want to go to the club and then after the club i want to go to the after east to 6 a.m i can't do 8 p.m to 6 a.m i can't do that so you're going like 1 a.m i go well i'm from new york so i usually party in new york and i and i party in miami a lot so i like to be at the club by 2 2 a.m 2 30 okay wait your name cardi b comes from Bacardi the alcohol right what is your go-to drink now oh Hennessy I love Hennessy yes and okay wait tell me who is the most fun celebrity you've ever partied with well there was this one night that me and Megan we went to we was in her hotel room it was my stylist it was her hair stylist and we was just like drinking and like talking and playing games and we had such a good time just doing that sometimes those are the best nights though because you're like I didn't even need to leave the room it was the people that you're with it's the best energy yeah and you're gonna actually be able to talk because when you're at a club it's hard to talk yeah it was like a couple of days after the vmas we were so well i don't i don't think she was drunk but i was drunk as fuck off of hennessy off of no it was actually tequila she drinks tequila wait are you a tequila girl though i'm not a tequila girl it just makes me kind of sleepy i need to be up energy on dog demon time are you ever not though i feel like your energy is like electric any room you walk in but i can get sleepy okay i'm a granny so i get sleepy real quick especially if i don't like the vibe or like the the dj is not good because it's all about the dj yeah if the dj is not good and not playing my records i'm ready to go to bed wait have you ever fell asleep at a club almost i think me and my me and my boyfriend we're very infamous with our friends like like we're very infamous at leaving oh you're like full irish exiting if the music is not right you're out we're like we look at each other like you want to leave and it's like yep and our friends be like y 'all always leave us hanging and they think that it's like we ready to fuck and it's like no we just want to go to bed i love you like i'm a granny i want to get the fuck out of here like you we know uh we want to go to bed like okay you got your butt pierced earlier this year yeah how the hell did you decide to do this i don't know how did you know you could do it i've seen it before and so you just randomly decided yes and it was so cute we did it hurt no it didn't hurt but i'm i'm not gonna recommend it to people because i had surgery i had surgery on my butt you know i'm saying like you know sometimes people say that my butt is too big but they don't understand they already did a butt surgery to reduce my ass they did yes so you know like when people do a tummy tuck in your stomach uh-huh i practically did a tummy tuck on my ass like on top so i could remove some biopilimeters so like the top of my ass like that skin part is like numb like a tummy tuck yeah so when i pierce my ass i ain't feel shit you're like you're like did you do it yet it looks cute it was it was the easiest piercing ever it cost me like 13 000 because it was real diamonds and guess what it went down the toilet cardi it went down the toilet wait how quick like the first week no no it was like a month but then i realized it's like hold on and it's like oh then i was looking around i was looking at my pants and my panties and stuff and i'm like yep went down the toilet 13 fucking k on your asshole oh my god ass crack ass crack it's so cute i got to i gotta show you a picture so you can see it it's really cute okay yeah you can show me a picture after so now is it just you're it's out you don't have it anymore or did you refill it no no i haven't i haven't redone it yet i'm just not i just haven't been in the mood but and did you know the person piercing your did you just walk into a shop one night and be like what's up yeah i just went to maria tosh they pierced me all the time they were so excited they said they were gonna refund me too on the on the on the piercing so why because it fell on the toilet yeah oh my god that's so nice of them i know right

6:56okay wait we're gonna play a game okay that's why i had you bring your phone in here tonight so the game is called confess or text okay i have been doing this with people recently here's what's gonna happen cardi yes i'm gonna ask you a juicy question oh that's it if you want to answer it answer it we go to the next question okay if you don't want to answer it then you have to text someone and you're going to text the person in one of those bowls and then there's also telling you what you're going to text that person what is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself um yeah well a new one now because some rumors are a little dark and some rumors are like bitch be for real like there's a rumor that like my boyfriend dumped me because my bbl stink and it's just like the way this ass be getting in it can be no but it the thing about me is i'm very very anal funny i'm very anal about how i smell got it you know what i'm saying i don't know who made the rumors that bbl stink but it's like it doesn't fucking stink well how would a bbl stink if you if you don't got no open wounds why because your ass is fatter you can't clean a fat ass you don't know how to clean a fat ass you do i do and let me tell you something let me tell you something if you get fucked in the ass i know how to do shit too you can't even play with me is that is that crazy when you read that shit online yes like is that be fucking for real do you talk about it with stephan or no i know we just be joking about it like is that i heard you left me because my bbl stink okay next which artist do you think is secretly insanely jealous of you?

8:51Huh. Oh, it's plenty, honey. Jesus Christ. All these bitches. All of these bitches. What's a kink or fantasy you've never admitted publicly? Shit, I think I've done them all. I would like, in a threesome, to have a really pretty-faced girl that I really like, and we both sucking dick together but like not just like my turn your turn my turn your turn like making out clashing on it and i love that you specified like really pretty face what because you're gonna have to look at her are you keeping your eyes open or closed if i like her a lot i mean you know it's really passionate when you make out with girls i'm not when you make out period i'm i'm very passionate like i like to make love so i'm just not like it's like oh you jerking and sucking that jerking it's like you jerking and sucking that jerking it's like no it's just like a clash make you're coming together to make something beautiful yeah when is the last time you faked an orgasm it's been a minute it's been a minute really it's good it's been really a long long time did you ever go through a spurt where you were faking them yes we all do we don't judge okay name a celebrity who you think would be amazing in bed who would be good in bed i never really thought about it you can go for the bowl no i just i'm just trying to i'm just trying to i'm trying to picture maybe one maybe probably like one of like these rapper these rap girls like like it's like i'm expecting them to be good in bed if yeah the way y 'all talk uh-huh that's fair you know like that yeah it's like i i hope so i hope you could eat some pussy if you're singing about it yeah you sing it but then do they even sing about yeah oh yeah y 'all so y 'all bisexual shit i hope y 'all can eat some fucking pussy what's been the worst pr crisis you've ever been in it's so many it's so many but like i feel like you handle them with grace with grace i be pulling my pussy hairs out they be stressing me out they want to cancel me they want to cancel me and it's just like i don't mean no harm like matter of fact i'm gonna tell you when i think i know you're gonna say the fat phobic yeah and it's like now now they're saying that i hate fat people and it's like do you think i wake up like oh i hate fat people i hate them i hate them i hate them i guess i do what the fuck are you serious like no i don't i don't but it was is my this is why i don't like my fans my fans rile me up and then when i think it's funny then i repeat what they say and it's like but but my fans did it first and then like the gp the general public be like if your fans but you know what sometimes like when i get like in trouble i guess people be like oh you guys give cardi a pass for everything you guys get away with everything and i don't feel that i feel like when i make a mistake you guys want to cancel me so bad but the reason why i don't get canceled is because i always been like this i'm not like this i mean i'm not saying that these celebrities are faking the nobody's faking the funk i just feel like they're a little bit more private than me but it's like i'm just really being myself i always be myself like it's like maybe sometimes i might be a little bit rougher with my jokes but i'm just a rough joker but i don't mean no harm that's what makes you you yes okay bull i knew you would answer all these fucking questions i'm like there's no way we're gonna even have to have her to text anyone i could just keep going you're gonna answer you want me to text yeah oh because you want me to be messy okay yeah yeah messy a celebrity oh my gosh a celebrity you don't know that well but have their number anyways can you help me make a clean version of this lyric micro penis i call that drowning in the pussy wait do i even have celebrities numbers let me see if lizzo changed her number let's fuck with lizzo she's gonna be like bitch what the fuck is wrong with you i love that you're just calling and not texting you're not a texter hey um i need your help with something right quick can you help me make a clean version of this lyric which one it goes like this it's a little silly but it's like this micro penis i call that drowning in the pussy

13:32micro penis i call that drowning in the pussy

13:40yeah if you can help me with that lyric that would be so great i'll call you right right back thank you so much you're such a great person i love you okay i'm gonna think about it okay okay okay okay hi carly holy fucking shit she's a real one she's like all right i'm gonna think on this shit wait you said micro penis yeah that was good uh you know what but lizzo is the sweetest person she that was amazing lizzo is the sweetest person so that's why i was like oh i know somebody dude you know she's gonna actually text you later and be like all right i was thinking about yes she is You're like, babe, I don't need that.

14:17She will. That's really sweet. She will. Thank you, Lizzo. She will. Oh, man, I'm crying. Oh, my God. Lizzo just texted me back. Shut the fuck up. Let me see what she said.

14:34She's sitting in the club thinking about this. Should we tell her the truth? Yeah, yeah. Message her back. Send her a picture. not lizzo literally at the club being like micro penis surprise surprise they told me to text a celebrity i knew you would surprise they told me to text a celebrity i knew you would have my back i know you would have my back cardi yeah she's a real one i told you she's really real that game wasn't that bad though you were good you were fucking team score you see i could have text Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you didn't. You fucking called. I love you for that. Okay, let's talk about before your music career took off.

15:14Let's go all the way back. You were working as a stripper. How did you get into that? I was working in a supermarket around my school. Well, the college I was going to, BMCC. And I got fired. And I was just talking to one of the managers of the supermarket. And I was just like, oh, I need this job so much. You think you could talk to this and that person too so they won't fire me? And he was like, you don't even need this job. Like, this is really bad. He was Turkish. You don't even need this job. You should go across the street. They have really pretty girls. you have nice body i know the people there and i was like for real and i was just so scared and he's like it's nothing crazy because i you know like you coming out of high school and going to college you don't really know what a strip club is or what they do or what was your first day like were you nervous i was very nervous okay we as you got more used to it did you come up with a signature move oh yes but honey i was a i was i i know how to work that pole well used to i getting a little pounds but i know how to work the pole i was really infamous for for my pole dancing what was your like go-to move on the pole that was like holy fucking shit i i used to go like this and like i could live my whole body like roll my whole body like from the prep just with my neck and stuff i don't know how to can't really demonstrate it okay it's okay we can all imagine yeah before this did you know when you were a young girl that you wanted to get into rap uh yes i always i always like rap i'm not i'm not gonna say really like rap i always knew i wanted to get into music like i used to sing and i went to uh school for for theater and music and singing do you remember the first song you ever wrote i used to write like songs and stuff like that and i used to be like mom look i wrote this song and everything you know when you used to see the cheetah girls and stuff like that you just want to be an artist when you see the cheetah girls those outfits yeah did you want to be one of them more raven was always like me the star of the fucking show star would you write songs about your life or just like random shit no like random love things i i was so i was always like in love with an imaginary person when i was like a child a kid i always had a crush in the air always had a crush on like

17:37nobody like why do i have a love life with no love at eight years old wait do you remember who your actual like physical breathing human being first crush was yeah um usher okay um marion but no one at school huh no one at school oh

18:05not like as that young no um in an interview you said that passions and dreams go out the window when you're just trying to survive understandably yeah what ultimately like during the rise of your career before obviously the huge success of your first album like what kept you going in moments where shit wasn't really going well just the fact that the bill have to be paid doesn't matter it don't matter if things not going well the rent gotta be paid like the rent oh you're crying oh you're sad nobody your your landlord is not trying to hear that you ain't made you ain't made enough money this week that you ain't got no food to eat that you're going through it with a man they are not trying to hear that shit bitch where's my 11 honey i don't give a fuck oh was there ever a time in music that you considered giving up yes a couple of times yeah especially in the beginning do you have advice for anyone right now who is like feeling like maybe they need to give up on their dreams because they're just going through way too much hard shit it took me about two three years to get to where I wanted to be and a whole bunch of songs I feel like if um don't don't don't give your job up you know I'm saying don't don't be like oh I'm a nurse but I want to be a rapper I want to be a singer and I'm just gonna give everything up for this because if it doesn't happen then what you don't have nothing but focus on your plan a but it's like make sure you always have a plan b some people don't go with plan b i go well actually i kind of don't be going with plan b you're gonna be cardi b no matter what you gotta believe that shit like it was one way or another you were gonna be you and famous but i didn't thought i didn't know how i was gonna become famous though but you knew it probably in your soul that like you were going to be known for something you just didn't know what yeah because it's just like everywhere i go like it's like i'm special or something it's like oh my god in every club in every school in every job like it's like me me me me me me me me like guys i'm exhausted give it is like like yeah i would just be like why me who is me like what what am i everybody used to be like you're gonna make it and it's like on what though like i don't know like i'm not the greatest singer i'm not the greatest i don't know how to act and then people whatever you're funny it's like i'm not good at doing comedy like it's like what like um who sings that song is it the mermaid or is it um mulan oh which one like it's like that song that is talking about what is my purpose oh wait the reflection in the mirror it's like yeah who's that girl yeah who is that oh what is it standing there yeah back at that's my mom right yes that's me like what is my purpose and my purpose is to be a fucking rapper and spank these bitches that's my purpose the fact that everyone even in like your hometown and your friends and your parents and everyone before all of this was like bitch you're gonna do something yes you just have that aura about you yeah which is fucking amazing um okay you recently said as you've been lately also alluding to that there are some female rappers in the industry that can't stand you why do you think that is i think it's a lot of different things i think it's because i'm so relatable i'm so relatable and i think they think like it's like why am i not in her position why her and not me and the thing is that is that I might make it I might be relatable I might make it look easy but it's really not I put a lot of thought to it I have a team and even when you have a team like it's like it you you you operate it so if you're not really like me sometimes I would just wake up at 3 a.m and I have an idea and I call patients I call Colin I call my managers it's like we got to do this um I could come up with a song I could come up with a certain type of a beat in my head not even because I don't I don't do beats and stuff like that but it's like I have an idea and I start calling all the producers that I work with and it's just like I make it look easy but I spend a lot of time perfecting it making it great like even the most simplest thing that you'll be like that is so simple to do but it's not and i think cardi like i appreciate you also saying that where people may be jealous because you are like authentically yourself i think there is a lot of people that maybe if they're talented in one capacity of music yeah they may not be able to like express themselves any other way but through music you kind of do both which is your super stardom i think is like people are like you are funny as fuck i like following you i like watching your food reviews and your tiktoks and your instagrams and your lives and all this and you make bomb fucking music yeah well you're like wait yeah keep going but i don't like i don't like to waste time like it's like some people do address almost everything in their music i don't feel i don't feel the same ways every single day so i have to bust that nut of saying how i feel that same day like that same day if i'm mad that same day i have to say something that day because five four days from now i might not feel that way no more so it's like i don't want to put a song that i'm talking about this but i don't give a fuck about that no more i have to say it today so you don't want to like sit and process things you're like i'm gonna say what i'm feeling in this exact moment yeah which could get you in a little bit of trouble it can but it's like i want to talk about it today that's what i want to do i'm mad today people have made this whole story that i came in the industry to like take over somebody's career or like make them think but it's like i never thought about i never thought that i just wanted to become famous at what i like to do that's all things sometimes people just don't get along with each other and if they don't get along with each other it's no more it's no more like oh but i think that they don't get along with each other because somebody from the higher ups wanted to make and destroy and this and that no i was that out this is what i was destined for i was destined to become this whether no matter who signed me no matter what i was going to be famous and i was going to be a rapper no matter what because this is what i invested my time with invested my own money with like before i got signed i was investing my money it's it's it's nothing more than just people didn't get along with each other and that's just that but i'm i'm done with that i'm so done with i think it's more of a fan thing i i agree with you i also think this concept can get out of proportion especially with women yeah and i think it's like no there is enough room for other people to like have success yeah but it's not you know what one thing i also noticed it don't only happens in the female rap it just is more intense in the female rap because i feel like female rappers like we are more more direct we're more direct than like pop girls you know i'm saying like we're not like fake shady we're going to give you the whole tree of shade like we're not like oh oh i kind of don't like you but whatever like people are not gonna know like female rappers we're more direct with the i don't fuck with you and you don't fuck with me type shit however i do see a lot of fans like even with pop girlies like it's like they really make people not like each other and i'd be like what i didn't even know that what like why do you think people do that because it's it's fun for them it's fun for them like people maybe there should be a documentary about fan bases because it's like some people will really hate somebody else and like some people will make pages dragging people all day long and like the real celebrities don't even don't even have an issue with each other they're literally finding out news and like oh really i didn't know that about myself how fascinating and it's like where the fuck should these people get this shit from but i agree i think they have fun with it yeah and then to be a part of something that feels fun yeah you end up winning a grammy for your debut album what do you remember at that point how success felt it's like really funny when people say like be careful what you wish for because you just might get it and when i ask god for things i don't know maybe i'm really anointed or something maybe i i don't know i can't i can't explain it but it's like when I ask God for things he really gives it to me but it's like

27:20like there's bad that comes with the things you wish for so you really got to be careful what you wish for like it's that I always wish for this lifestyle I didn't know that this life and money and success will bring so much hatred so much pain so much mental health issues like it's like I feel like I be having mental health issues because of this life but it's just it's a lot it is it's a lot

28:00okay we're gonna play another game yeah wait but i think we need something i've never tried it should i prepare for something uh well do it slowly because you think is you think it's whipped cream but it tastes like alcohol so if you take a lot it's like it's almost like taking a shot stop it's like taking a shot okay well now i have to fucking do it because now i pulled it out okay okay you gotta shake it okay then shake it down guys we are trying cardi's whip shots yeah you gotta put it this way no yeah okay that no that's too much that's too much it's alcohol are you a swallower show me you're a swallower okay we're done oh you a quick swallower wait a minute what are your what are your what are your little fantasies how about that what are your well cardi although this feels professional i did become known for the gluck gluck 9000 a cluck you know episode three back in the day cardi i was teaching girls how to suck dick left and right but you know what what that is very important it is thank you sucking dick is so important yes do you know there's like categories of like oh like some men no you don't understand i have gone in a rabbit hole i didn't know how special are eaters to these men what hold on rewind you didn't know no i know but listen these men have these girls on their phone everybody has a a eater and I didn't know that and then like you be like are you so and then you ask them so if this girl suck your dick so good why don't you marry them and it's like and they'll be like I don't want to marry them I don't really like them I don't even know their birthday I don't care about their last name I just know that they're my favorite eater so when they suck my dick they're the best at sucking my dick and that's that have you ever been someone's eater no well i don't know so true you wouldn't know i guess well well the thing about it is sometimes people say that like their favorite eater is somebody that they just don't care they just eat dick and you know what sometimes they don't even fuck them they just dare to suck dick but they never forget about their favorite eater like their eater is always in the back of their mind even if you probably fucking them and sucking their dick is like yeah she's sucking my dick too good but they're thinking about their eater can you believe that that's how important it is it is to know how to suck dick cardi this is like kind of turning every man no no this is turning into an educational podcast right now because these men have these things these girls call eaters and they're very important to their life but not really so you technically want to get to a point where you are wifey material with a background in eating well yes well yes everyone and that is the ted talk for today no trust me i know how serious this is and you will think well if he sees her so much he probably got feelings for her he probably loves her because why you keep going back to the same bitch do you know they don't even care if they're missing a leg all they care about is their head they just want their dick sucked by that person and then what they're just like get out oh they'll be like well have a good day you thank you mary over yes it really be like that like how you doing hey how you doing could they ever get to girlfriend status i mean i feel like the way a man talks to you or like if a man don't really want to fuck you and it's just like it's just a head like it's like yeah if he's not like paying for a meal ever or going out in public with you ever yeah or rarely ever calling you some girls just really want to eat can you believe that they just want to eat they just know they were born to eat to eat i swear to god i swear it's a weird science i don't understand it because i never knew but it's the truth this is fascinating yeah let's hear from all the eaters um reach out to us and let us know how let us know let us know that's fascinating yeah i want to do some research on it okay we're gonna play a game ready we're gonna call it wop or flop wop or flop i'm gonna give you a scenario and if it's a turn on you say wop if it's a turn off you say flop ready yeah he only wants to fuck to your songs i don't it's kind of like a flop i don't really want to fuck to my songs if you had to fuck to one of your songs what would it be it's a song is on the album it's called my back seems appropriate yeah okay he is obsessed with sucking toes i'll walk a flop okay explain well i i like where my man love my toes uh-huh and i like when my my my you know oops stuff my significant other like want to like you know play with my feet and stuff like that but it's like if it's a guy that is like i want to suck your toes all day i want to it's like oh my gosh how many toes you suck yeah yeah yeah you got a toe thing but you know what i love my man feet i'm not like i don't no freaky shit but i just love massaging and rubbing but you're not going to be sucking it to like a degree where you're getting fucking turned on yeah no um he has a super high sex drive and wants to fuck every day multiple times a day that's weird to me that that would be a little weird like it's like all right like damn you are you into what's that stuff called when you went to animals animalism something like that like it's like damn yeah like it's like you want to fuck all there is like there is like sprouts like right like you go through you're saying moments yeah like there is moments that is like that is like you want to fuck two three times a day but like not every fucking day not every fucking day like if i have a guy like that it's like baby you need a job you need a job and it's like what happens if i can't today yes what happened if i can't today like it's like what happen when i'm away he's calling his eater it's so scary it's scary yeah okay he loves rim jobs the hell is rim jobs you know no i don't know it was a rim job he's taking a shit yeah and while he's taking a shit you're sucking his dick what no i never ew my god i will throw up i will literally throw up ew i need someone to write in that's ever given a rim job have you done a rim job no so why who can so who matter of fact who came up with this question wait a rim what is the one where you're oh a blumpkin i'm thinking about a blumpkin you know what a blumpkin is that's a blumpkin no sorry a blumpkin is the one where they're on the toilet and you're no you're being an eater no nothing on toilets okay what about a rim job is licking the booty hole licking the booty hole i mean i mean some people are i don't know i wouldn't really mind it i you the guy gotta like be into that or something because yeah you wouldn't want to go down there and get a punch you in your fucking head i'm saying you think you're doing like a really kind gesture and he's like bitch he literally knocks you through the drywall a guy gotta really be into that you know know what i'm saying like i gotta be right you gotta kind of proceed with caution yeah proceed with caution i guess maybe like a light little finger at first like near there no no guys don't do that no you wouldn't you wouldn't even like tickle down that area you know what i'm gonna just stay i'm gonna just stay in the balls okay stay in the ball we're staying up north we're not going down south we stayed up north okay perfect he screams your full legal birth name when he comes i'll be like bitch you're trying to cast a spell on me mine my name is belkulise marleni's al mansar oh my god do that while you're coming belkulise belkulise belkulise belkulise belkulise belkulise belkulise no add the middle one into it the middle name then last oh god that's a lot marleni marleni al mansar oh my god casting a spell sounds almost like it yes okay he wants to watch porn while you fuck but it's furry porn furry what does that mean it's like when people dress up in animal big furry costumes what no but i i i was i wouldn't i wonder what it would be like if like the porn is playing on tv and we just start fucking i never did that i like lesbian porn i think every girl does right yeah because it's not scary it's not scary dicks are intimidating oh especially in porn are you fucking kidding me i'm like dick is very intimidating i don't think guys understand how intimidating it's scary is yes especially when you're like meeting a new guy you're kind of like what's in there yeah go light just the tip at first yes this is scary dude that's so fucking real um okay he wants you to fuck a friend while he watches fuck a friend like a girl fuck a friend like a guy guy no that's weird that's really weird have you ever had a guy ask you to do that no i wouldn't want that neither because i feel like you're disrespecting me i wouldn't like that either i don't like that but you'd be okay if it was a girl maybe i feel like if you ask me i don't i think it should just if your girlfriend is bisexual like if she's into girls like i'm into girls and if naturally flows then it's cool but if you like mad thirsty like it's like yeah i want this so bad i want this so bad i'm like nigga you're freaking you're weird it's so true it's like all about how men approach it like when they're like yeah and it will make you feel like insecure about yourself i guess like it's like damn i'm not good enough for you or something okay wait ending the game i forgot to ask you because about wop talk to me about how did you feel recording the clean version of that song i hated it it's so stupid what are the words again what's the clean version i forgot but it's like that's that wet wet wet i just hate it's wet wet oh gushy um i hate if i hate that word gushy ew i don't even say that it's just like there's certain words that i really just don't like so who comes up with gushy i have no choice but to say yeah can you please it's torture sure that's such an ugly word isn't it good it's definitely an odd one okay aside from that what was the weirdest like hardest clean lyric you had to record gushy that was it it's just really awkward and stupid do you just go into a story studio and quickly record it sometimes yes because it's just like oh what are the what are the words that will like rhyme and will make sense and it's I just hate it.

39:45You at one point said in an interview that you wish people would stop commenting on your body. What has your experience been like with objectification throughout your career? It's a lot really because, all right, like even with like the whole fat phobic thing or something like that, like a lot of people was like, girl, you talk about being fat and everything, but you go and get lipo every single time you start gaining weight. And it's like, actually, I do lipo so I could look thicker because I'm naturally skinny. So, like, it's really hard for me to gain weight. And it's actually very easy for me to lose weight because if I'm sad, I lose weight.

40:26And if I'm overly working, even though I might be happy, I just, like, I'll be like, I'm on the go. I can't, I don't have time to eat. So, I lose weight very easy. so when I did do lipo so I could be thicker in the butt thicker in the in the the ass the misconception that people have of me is just like that I'm always in the table and like I just give birth and I automatically go and like get surgery I take my time because I don't want to die no seriously like you have to wait six seven months before you get any type of surgery when after you have birth because you lose so much blood like you lose so much blood your your body still contracting your your organs are still contracting your breasts are getting smaller do you feel like people hold it against you that you have been open about your surgery yes and it really sucks so much because like i just feel like um when the kardashians when the kardashians i used to feel like people used to put so much pressure on them so they could say like they this surgery and they will not say a word and it's like what is the and then it's like well you know what i'm gonna just be more honest about it and you know they never lied about it they just like felt like i i don't have to tell you my business so when you do tell them your business it's like it's bad too it's like you kind of can't win it's like yeah you're open about it then they used it against you if you don't they say they have the right to know because you're setting these unrealistic standards it's kind of like what do people want and i think what people preach they want is honesty and openness but it's bad when you do it too so it's like you you can't you can't even you can never you can never win how has all this affected how you do feel about yourself um sometimes like like a couple of times like i start feeling like like it's like damn is my body really messed up or something but it's like i look at myself in the mirror and it's like i really wouldn't change a thing maybe i would like my butt to be smaller but it's like i said it's really hard for my butt to be smaller i already did um i already did a reduction already and it's like people be like well you need a you need to reduce your butt a little more and it's like i think you guys think that people just plug something inside my asshole and just suck it out for me to reduce my butt i have to literally sit on the table get cut from the bottom get cut from the top and be embarrassed for like three months so it's like i'm not gonna put myself in that position again because you don't like my body i'm comfortable i learned to live with it i don't get no complaints for nobody and um it is what it is like it's just like you can't let people turn you crazy you know what i'm saying yeah it's so it's crazy to like see how much people comment about your body and then it is i appreciate you being honest of like we guys i actually am okay so just like lay off i've been open about what i've done yeah you all will shame me for it i'm telling you i don't want to change anything right now so leave me alone yes and and another like misconception that i have about me when it comes to surgery is that people be like you get surgery because you're insecure about yourself i'm not insecure about myself and um i'm not insecure about myself and then somebody if some people be like oh she'll be doing surgery because uh this guy always be cheating on her and stuff like that and it's like no when a man fall in love with me they fall in love for me for my pussy for my personality and because i'm a really pretty girl if a man is gonna cheat on you they're just gonna cheat on you because that's just men a man would cheat on you with the ugliest brokest probably finest or probably the ugliest bitches it really depends on the night it really depends who's available and who's around okay so it's not like it's like oh he cheated on her because this bitch is bad the girls that i've been seeing i'm like i'm surprised i'm not in your caliber you fucking bitches like this and i always been very i never been insecure i went i i i went i used to make money off dancing naked like i'm i was making money because of my looks not because of my brain not because of my mouth not because of my anything because of my looks i was making thousands of dollars because of my looks before surgery before i got my teeth done before i got my nose done before i got my ass done so i never really been insecure i just really like i just like a certain type of bodies and it's like if i have the money and if i could i'm gonna change if i want to like it's almost like a wig you change your wig every other day does that mean you're insecure about your hair or how you look no i'm not neither i just like to i just like what i like i never really liked my nose too much and i fixed it and it's done it's done with it and like my my teeth that much and i went and i'm fixing and i'm done and how and you know like when i'm probably when i'm in my 50s and stuff if i gotta do a little pull and tuck then the fuck i will like it's like the shit

45:55I do want to talk to you about you've obviously had a lot of public ups and downs just throughout your public career with past relationships. relationships how do you handle people having such an opinion on your dating life i don't know i really i really don't know because i really don't know i'm just i'm just at the point like that is like do what do what you want to do you know i'm saying like do what you want to do and do what makes you do what makes you happy like even like even like in the the the long marriage that i was in like it's a lot of things that I regret and there's a lot of things that people gonna be like you see you wasted your time but I don't feel like it was a waste of time I I actually I actually see what comes with being a wife being a mom so I experienced that it's like I have to experience pain I have to experience good time I have to experience what it was like to be a fam to have a family and to be a wife so I I don't and on top of that like because I don't have a bad reputation like if you decide to call me a whore a slut or whatever the fuck it's because you want to it's not because you have a fact because i wasn't that so um i feel like again being in a public position there will be rumors out there yeah and have you ever had something where like there was a rumor about someone cheating on you and then you eventually found out somehow it was real where you're like at first you're like no that has to be a rumor and then eventually one day you find out it's true and like how do you handle those moments has it ever happened yeah that that happened that that definitely happened and um it happened too late because it's like it happened too late like is that I will find out a little bit more late than the other sometimes I feel like damn was that the only one that didn't know but it's like how do you handle that though Cardi because I think that's like a really relatable feeling of a woman being like did everyone around me know but when you're in a relationship sometimes you can get blinded by like you love someone like how do how do you how did you deal whenever in your life you experience something like that those feelings of like i whoop the ass okay i whoop the ass and it's like it's it's really your choice if you want to stay or go to be honest with you like it's like i'm not gonna put the blame on nobody for staying or leaving like have you ever felt shame in the past of ever like staying with something that people maybe around you were like you shouldn't be in something like that and like how do you deal with that if people are judging you for staying in something um sometimes it's it's like a mixed feelings because again i really just i really just don't regret anything you know what i'm saying like it is it is what it is like if my if your heart is not ready it's just it's not ready it's not ready do you have any advice for women of like how to know when to leave or how to get the strength i don't even know if it was like a strength or something i just feel like like it was like my body was like really rejecting it it's like you know like that picture that is like a girl throwing up and she's throwing up hearts like i feel like i was getting like really like sick and it's like all right this is this is dead because because i had separation moments that people wouldn't even know that i'm separated there has been moments that it's like i wouldn't see a for two three months we're not in the same house we're not fucking we're not talking but nobody really knows so nobody's gonna ever know your complete business but you could do that but if you're not ready to leave you're just not ready to leave especially when you don't talk to other guys or you don't really be outside like that or you're not in the you're not out there like that and for some reason for some reason this is so weird men actually respect marriages what do you mean by that women don't really respect marriages you're saying outside of the marriage like a man wouldn't come to you yes because he's like oh you've got your thing yes Because when I used to meet guys, any type of famous guys and stuff like that, they'll be like, how you doing?

50:23How you doing, Cardi B? Like this and that. My DMs were extremely dry. Nobody would approach me. But these women, they will throw themselves at a married man. Like it's nothing. It's like, oh, well, whatever. And it's not because it was me. Like because I don't, you know, I'm Cardi B at the end of the day. When I announced that I was single, oh, boy. boy boy boy like your dms the dms the the the the every type of way like every type of way they was trying to reach but when they know that you're like in a marriage and like you have a family they won't approach you they won't so it was just like like my world was there it's such a good point too cardi because like i think a lot about what you just said of like your body rejecting it and i think we need to have more grace for ourselves as women because i agree with you like there is just this weird sorry no you're fine um there is just like this weird double standard thing that's like it feels like men are always available and so when you are a woman you can feel really really isolated yeah and now here we are and look at the goddamn jersey that you're wearing.

51:39Okay, so you're in a relationship. How did you meet this man? Did he slide in your DMs? It wasn't a DM thing. I could feel the vibe that he liked me, but he never approached me. But I always heard he was into me, but he never approached me. He was very respectful and stuff like that. Okay, so what did you do? so it was just this one time that I was like you have to move on like you have to move on and it's like no matter how much times you go to the club and think that this is gonna distract you you know what you have to do to move on in order to move on you have to be you know like getting attention from somebody if you're so if you're so used to getting attention from one person you have to like get attention from somebody because at the end of the day you could party you could club you could work you could job you could get your hair done at the end of the day you kind of want somebody to talk to you need somebody to talk to so i asked somebody like it's like hey hey it feels illegal and we and we just talked we got to know each other we was getting to know each other for like a little bit okay not too not too much we wasn't doing too much though okay not too much you were keeping it like just like slow slow and how did you feel in the beginning were you nervous to talk to like a new person yes you could say I was very nervous and what was it about him that made you slowly keep coming back um because sometimes that we would talk and then sometimes we go like weeks or like like a month without talking and for some reason like it's it's almost like it's almost like he always hit me up like at the right time he almost hit me up like at the times that i feel uneasy i'd be like i don't know if i should deal with this person because i know this person he's he's a little hot but i'm gonna talk and then we had really good conversations and it got to the point that it was like damn we we talked for hours and six hours and seven hours and it's like there was days that it's like oh even when we wasn't talking i was like i need to talk to this person because i'm talking to this person every day so that is the fucking best so when you get to that point where you're like giddy and like love having them in your life in every capacity you're like okay now i know i really fuck with you and i really really like you yes okay wait are you entering your wag era are you gonna be at the fucking games yeah yeah i'm excited for that that's so exciting do you think you'll go on the field uh i don't know cardi this is like fun this is fun i know i don't i just like i'm just like learning different things every day like because people probably think that i just got these things planned out and i'm just like i'm just like as a little girl like not little girl but it's like i was like you're excited yeah i'm excited it's like the beginning stages of something really fun yeah and and it's exciting to be moving forward and seeing that you can have a connection with someone else and you can grow something and you can have those butterflies not just from one person in the world like there is life goes on yes okay wait but you wiped him from your instagram all of the fucking pictures are gone what happened i'm very dramatic guardy i'm dramatic i do you guys not like that's the thing like something that that to people is a big deal to me is not a big deal at the moment and then it's like oh it became something that is not did you archive or did you fully delete i just archive okay but i'm very dramatic like i'm the type of person oh okay right he's like did something that you love and you're like look at this gone yes and he was like why would you do that that was so he's like why would you do that and but you know that's the type of thing that we say like that we laugh about because it's like why would you do that see now everybody's saying they that that is because your ass think you see what happens you're like god damn it i archived because he was acting up and everyone's like it's because you're fucking ass bitch you're like yeah yeah but you see how that shit bit me in the ass literally and actually for something that it was very stupid and little what was it dramatic i even forgot no because it's so because i'm just dramatic like that wait i'm obsessed with you waking up he like doesn't call you at the exact time you're like archive or i could also see you you're like sitting there like smiling as you're i did i was like and then it's like okay we'll see when he notice he'll notice soon i'm so annoying it's cute um okay i have a couple lyrics that i want to ask you about and then we're gonna get to your album okay previous lyrics um broke boys don't deserve no pussy what is the biggest broke boy behavior that makes you instantly lose interest when they don't have a job but it's because they intentionally don't have a job okay i went through your phone last night saw some things i didn't like what is the worst thing you've ever found on a man's phone at this point i don't i don't really go through like i don't even really find things on a man's phone i find it on fucking social media god damn it that's the fucking worst if you catch a guy in the act of like being shady and cheating and you confront him what's the craziest reaction a man has ever given you like for me he's cried and i'm like wait how are you crying if you cry right away it's like bitch stop fucking playing with me bow you're like why are you oh my god stop playing go i'm gonna give you something to cry about for real have you ever had a guy cry absolutely isn't it kind of crazy how do they do that i'm terrible at i i know immediately yeah i'm sorry i'm starting the lip quiver and you're like i don't even i can't even do that even when i act like even when i do a little acting scene i can't even get the quiver okay I don't need the D I need the money what's the longest you've gone without sex oh I could go like two months I could go a month or something like it could go that's good okay let's talk about your new album am I the drama yeah what is the story behind the title I just always feel like I'm into something and then it's like and even ever since I was a little girl I'm always in like trouble um my name is always mixed up to certain things and it's like why me like is that i really just be out the way but it doesn't matter if i'm out the way it happens like for example like this court case is going on right and it's like people it's like i have seen people say like because like cardi's always in court and i'd be like it really it's really not because of me it's just like the drama follows me like you said earlier you're like i'm just gonna say what the fuck it is yeah And even if you don't like it, but I'm going to fucking say it.

58:52Yeah. Okay. I know we mentioned this earlier, but I want to talk a little bit more about like almost seven years. Yeah. Since your first album. How long did this take you to write? How long have you been working on it? What kind of stress level are we at right now? The stress level right now is very intense. Like I've been working every single day. I haven't got, do you want to know how long I haven't got to dig? I haven't got to dig down in like two, three weeks already. like it's like that's how long because i just been working every single day i've been working on this album i probably have songs there they are like six years old probably six or probably five years old i've been working on this album for a minute but like during that seven years i have been putting out records and stuff like that it's not like it's like i haven't just not like a full album just not just not a full album and the stress it's literally driving me i'm like i swear to god if i didn't laser i probably have gray pussy hairs i swear okay we went through some of your lyrics what is your favorite line from the new album or give me a couple uh

1:00:03oh i got can let me go to my phone so i can see which likes because i got so many songs that is like so there's this there's this lyric that there's this lyric on my back that i said now wherever you at is where i want to be nigga i'm on your dick i want to hold it when you pee nigga like i am on your dick so much i love you so much that if you want me to hold your pee your dick while you peeing i'll hold it where were you when you came up with this incredibly genius lyric in the studio but when i started my engineer was like you're fucking ridiculous like he was like why do you be coming up with this stuff how you be coming up with this stuff that's what my engineer said he was like why why would you say that and it's like it's like because it's stupid it's not stupid it's just like it's so it's so it's so stupid it's genius yes because it's like so fucking real yeah and there are a lot of fucking bitches that would literally yeah like you know how like some bitches be like like i want to live under his skin yes it's like i want to hold your penis every single day like it's a platter i want to sit it right here Next to me.

1:01:27And cherish him forever. And cherish it forever. So precious to me. Oh, penis. Oh, penis. Okay, we. How do you think you have evolved as a person since your first album to now? Oh, so many, honey. I mean, I have evolved in my career as a person. I have calmed down way much. I think way much. like I'm always thinking about like as much as as much as people think that I just like whatever like I'm spontaneous I actually think a little bit more before I like go out my way to do something sometimes I'm more chill now like I have more fears now like I'm a mom so I got more fears like it's like you're not living for you no more you're living for these kids everything you do Like it's like if you fuck up, like it's like if I lose everything, I'm not just losing like, oh, I'm losing my house.

1:02:24I'm losing my this. I'm losing their future. So I am responsible for their future. So I have to act a certain way. And last question, what do you ultimately hope fans take away from this new album? i just hope that they see and feel my feelings that they see my fun side my pain my anger i hope that they see all of that and i hope they see that i put my i put a lot of work into this album this ain't no play play were you about to say i put my ass into this i put my ass my pussy my my underarm my nose my neck my bbl put my toes in it come on guys let's go fucking stream it dude Cardi B thank you so much for coming on Caller Daddy this was so fun you are such a pleasure and it lived up to everything I could have dreamed of thank you

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Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Cardi B! Cardi unpacks some of her most iconic lyrics, reveals her biggest fantasies and turn off’s, and discusses moving on from her divorce. She also opens up about body image, jealousy in the industry, and the pressure she felt making her new album. Enjoy!


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