Devon and Sydney Carlson: Sisters, Situationships, & Starting a Business (FBF)

14 Aug 2026 · 48 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Devin and Sydney Carlson (sisters, Wildflower phone case founders) discuss sisterhood, dating/situationships, cheating, and how they turned a DIY idea into a business after Miley Cyrus amplified it.

Guest backgrounds

Devin and Sydney are sisters and best friends who grew up “Carlson clap” style and rarely fought except over clothes. They co-founded Wildflower phone cases after their art-teacher mom made studded clear cases for them and friends. Their father is a graphic designer.

Key claims

Miley Cyrus noticed their mom’s cases in 2012, asked if there was a company, tweeted about them, and they launched Wildflower the next day (wildflowercases.com). They say the early surge helped fund the business, including selling their house and running operations from home. Devin describes an intense relationship (22–18/19) involving a partner’s drug addiction; Sydney describes being cheated on by a touring musician and how it pushed her into healthier support.

Notable examples

Vegas birthday trip; Disneyland “recovery” after cheating; “Uber driver” joke; Wildflower origin with Miley; sister game about drunk posting, DM’ing celebrities, and first-date sex.

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Chapters

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Celebrating Birthdays and Vegas

1:01 to 2:29

The sisters discuss their recent birthday trip to Vegas and memorable moments.

“That would be weird if that was your favorite pastime.”

Celebrating Birthdays and Vegas

3:21 to 4:12

The sisters discuss their recent birthday trip to Vegas and memorable moments.

“Let's start off with, you guys are the first official sisters I have ever had on Color Daddy.”

Sisterly Dynamics and Growing Closer

4:12 to 5:40

The sisters describe their relationship, including childhood fights and growing closer.

“And then everyone, we would like, it was summer camp.”

Navigating Friendships and Relationships

5:40 to 7:31

The sisters share insights on friendships and their experiences with past relationships.

“I don't think we've ever had a real fight.”

Navigating Friendships and Relationships

7:47 to 8:55

The sisters share insights on friendships and their experiences with past relationships.

“I took a recent trip with my girlfriends and it was so amazing.”

The Story Behind Wildflower

9:03 to 14:00

Devon and Sydney recount the origins of their phone case business, Wildflower.

“That would be weird if that was your favorite pastime.”

The Birth of Wildflower Cases

14:00 to 18:02

Learn how a chance encounter with Miley Cyrus led to the creation of a successful phone case business.

“And we're like walking back to our table, me, Dev, and Miley.”

Navigating Fame and Family

18:02 to 19:37

Discover how Devon and Sydney managed their business together and its impact on family dynamics.

Love Lives Unveiled

19:37 to 20:57

Devon shares her journey through dating after a long-term relationship and what she's learned.

“Just share where you're comfortable, like fun stuff.”

Dating Dynamics and Sisterly Support

20:57 to 24:28

The sisters discuss their different approaches to dating and how they support each other.

“Like just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun.”
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Defining Relationship Types

24:28 to 28:00

Exploring the types of partners each sister is attracted to and what qualities they value.

Understanding Devin's Dating Preferences

28:00 to 29:21

Explore Devin's attraction to musicians and the implications of their lifestyles.

“Honestly, you're kind of all over the place with the types.”

Understanding Devin's Dating Preferences

30:28 to 31:56

Explore Devin's attraction to musicians and the implications of their lifestyles.

“That would be weird if that was your favorite pastime.”

Navigating Relationship Challenges

31:57 to 38:44

Devin and Sydney discuss the complexities of handling relationships and breakups.

“You kind of talked about how you had an intense relationship that you guys had a little like not falling out, but you just kind of press pause in your relationship.”

Navigating Relationship Challenges

40:28 to 41:52

Devin and Sydney discuss the complexities of handling relationships and breakups.

“I want it to feel breezy, beautiful, gorgeous.”

Sisterly Stalking Confessions

42:05 to 43:52

Learn about the sisters' humorous and relatable experiences with social media stalking and dating history.

Which Sister Game

43:53 to 46:23

Enjoy a fun game where the sisters reveal secrets about each other through a series of light-hearted questions.

“For every answer, I'm like, I'm so weird.”

Relationship Dynamics

46:24 to 50:04

The sisters discuss their views on relationships, including cheating, jealousy, and dating preferences.

“You'd be like, um, Stas, get me back in.”

Dating Storytime

50:05 to 56:03

Hear a captivating dating tale that includes unexpected twists and humorous moments, showcasing real-life dating challenges.

“And then how are you toxic in a relationship?”

A Night to Remember: Embarrassing Moments and Connection

56:03 to 58:12

Listen to a hilarious story about a date gone wrong that turns into a memorable night.

A Night to Remember: Embarrassing Moments and Connection

58:31 to 1:00:00

Listen to a hilarious story about a date gone wrong that turns into a memorable night.

“Daddy gang, summer is officially here, which means the Euro trip you've been talking about in the group chat since January, it's actually real.”

A Night to Remember: Embarrassing Moments and Connection

1:00:09 to 1:01:39

Listen to a hilarious story about a date gone wrong that turns into a memorable night.

“That would be weird if that was your favorite pastime.”

A Night to Remember: Embarrassing Moments and Connection

1:01:43 to 1:02:49

Listen to a hilarious story about a date gone wrong that turns into a memorable night.

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2:30Sydney Carlson:I want to take off my shoes and get cozy now. Do it, do it, do it. There's water behind you if you need it. I kind of think I want a drink. I'm suddenly nervous.

2:39Father Cooper:Should we go get a drink?

2:40Sydney Carlson:Yeah. Okay, bye.

2:41Father Cooper:Okay, let's go. Okay, fuck.

2:42Sydney Carlson:I'm sorry. Fuck.

2:46Father Cooper:what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with let me hear you guys give me like a little like hey yeah see that hey alex oh wait maybe bring yours down so i want to see your face a little take off your top bring that closer to your mouth is this good i don't know why you're singing but i I actually don't need to sing at all. Devin and Sydney Carlson, welcome to Color Daddy.

3:20Father Cooper:There's like no crowd. Let's start off with, you guys are the first official sisters I have ever had on Color Daddy. Really? Or I guess like people related even.

3:34Devon Carlson:We clap a lot. Carlson clap. My dad calls it the Carlson clap because we clap all the time. I think we got it from them. Anytime.

3:40Sydney Carlson:My parents will always start a clap and it just has gone down to us when we were little like anything the smallest things we did

3:48Devon Carlson:Even now we like walk in their house and they're like I

3:53Father Cooper:Love it because you guys keep clapping at me

3:59Sydney Carlson:Okay, you just had a birthday happy belated birthday you went to Vegas.

4:04Father Cooper:I went to Vegas tell me what was the most like memorable moment in Vegas what happened what did you do

4:11Sydney Carlson:um well the entire trip was like kind of a surprise yeah she didn't know a few months ago we were all sitting in my bedroom and I was like what are we gonna do for my birthday like we gotta make it big and because it was like my first whatever first single birthday yeah in a

4:31Father Cooper:okay we can say it we can say it okay okay first single birthday in a while you were gonna do it

4:36Sydney Carlson:you gotta do it big do it big and I was like Katy Perry obviously yeah we have to see that's what

4:41Devon Carlson:like started the idea yeah so then we were looking at the dates and then she happened to be playing and so we're like fuck it and then I started getting closer and they're like what do you want

4:49Sydney Carlson:to do and I was like can part of my gift just be that I don't plan it like can you guys just plan it so everything was kind of a highlight but I feel like one of my favorite parts was when we

4:58Devon Carlson:we were all at the lobby bar and we,

5:00Sydney Carlson:everyone kept coming down and like showing off their outfits and we'd be like, because we didn't stay in the same room. We all stayed in separate rooms. So it kind of felt like camp. And then everyone,

5:11Devon Carlson:we would like,

5:12Sydney Carlson:it was summer camp. We're meeting at the lobby. And then everyone would come down. It was like a fashion show, seeing everyone's like outfits. I don't know. Okay. So you were there. Yes.

5:21Father Cooper:Do you usually get invited to each other? Shit. Yeah.

5:24Sydney Carlson:Within the past few years. Yeah. There was like a, ugh. Well, because we were just like sisters for a really long time. Like just related.

5:32Devon Carlson:I feel like in high school.

5:34Father Cooper:When did you become friends? Walk me through the experience.

5:37Devon Carlson:High school, we were definitely like sisters. Still like friends. We never have really fought growing up. I don't think we've ever had a real fight.

5:43Sydney Carlson:Every fight has been about clothes. Like screaming, crying, clothes. In unison. Yeah. Been about clothes.

5:50Father Cooper:Why are you fighting over clothes?

5:52Sydney Carlson:Because like you borrowed that without asking. You didn't ask me. Yeah. my first job I spent all of my money on mainly like gas and clothes and I would guess work hours for like little money and then I go to the Urban Outfitters sales section buy one thing and then go to wear it and it's gone and I'm like and I'm like I worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt and she's wearing it without asking right and then there was like the trade it's like okay well if you borrowed that without asking I get to wear this like you've never worn two things that you've

6:23Father Cooper:never worn but you can't post photo on it yeah are you guys in the same friend group yeah we're

6:29Devon Carlson:like we hang out every day basically yeah like our friend group is the same we're like a friend group

6:36Sydney Carlson:it was like sydney went through like a gnarly relationship and then got out of it and i feel like we weren't close at all during that relationship and it really made me be like oh my gosh okay once she's out of this like I can't it showed me like what I almost lost my sister I felt like as like in my life and I was like I'm never letting this happen again she is like I'm not I'm like forcing her to be my friend basically and then after the relationship

7:06Devon Carlson:yeah we became really close yeah did you feel that too yeah yeah I mean it was a fact friends

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7:12Father Cooper:are amazing yeah but like friends are friends like they're not your blood the fact you guys

7:16Devon Carlson:your friends and your blood yeah i think we forget sometimes and our friends sometimes are like i always forget you guys are like sisters like we hang out with like sisters like it doesn't feel

7:25Sydney Carlson:like but it's we'll also do like our bickering fights about like just sister and our friends

7:31Devon Carlson:will be like sister fight but it'll last like five minutes and then we'll be like should we go get dinner.

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9:19Father Cooper:Oh, like actually like no. Clorox Toilet Wand is an all-in-one cleaning system designed to make the whole process way better. Listen, when someone comes over to my house, I want it to feel clean. I want it to feel breezy, beautiful, gorgeous. And Clorox toilet wand, I'm telling you guys, it's, let me just say it saved me in a lot of moments, okay? It has really changed the game for me. The Clorox toilet wand kit comes with disposable scrubbing pads that are preloaded with cleaner, a long handle, so you can stay far away, and a storage caddy that keeps everything together. It's literally perfect, you guys, okay?

9:56Father Cooper:The textured scrubbing pads foam on contact with the water to cut through tough stains for an easy, satisfying, clean. No additional toilet cleaning gel needed. In fact, it kills 99.9 % of viruses and bacteria. And when you're done, you just toss the used scrubbing pad away and you never have to look at it again. Okay. Everyone, we have our dorm rooms. We have our apartments. We have our homes. I don't care where you live, daddy gang. You need this. throw away your gross toilet brush and join the millions of people keeping their toilet clean with the Clorox toilet wand grab yours today on Amazon use as directed I want to get an idea of your personalities but described by the other person Devin you go first describe Sydney's personality and how like friends view her and like who is she in the friend group and like

10:43Sydney Carlson:what is her personality give me the fucking tea yeah Sydney's like the funny the funny one she's like the funniest one out of all of our friends like Sydney can never be serious for more than like five seconds she's perfect and she's also fun I don't know she's not silly or goofy she's just like dry funny serious okay dry

11:04Father Cooper:humor and monotone is the fucking fun that's what she is when you're like what did you just say you're like absolutely okay that I feel like we already got to know you a little bit better now do it for Devin

11:14Devon Carlson:Devin's not the quiet one she can be put in a room with complete strangers and walk out with 10 friends 10 new numbers going lunch plans like she we're no that's sydney no oh my god no we are out you okay but that's when i'm drunk and i give people my number that's completely different like alcohol was involved like she can do this just like naturally that's where we're like very different like she's like social butterfly can like talk to anyone be friends with anyone and it's honestly really

11:47Father Cooper:it's like a talent of hers and you're like the first one if you're walking the door you're talking first yeah and then she's following you with like hilarious jokes yeah the joke was always

11:56Sydney Carlson:like whenever people will get to meet us they'd always be like sydney's really the funny one like

12:00Devon Carlson:you think like devin's the funny one but then you get to know us they're like sydney's the funny one

12:04Sydney Carlson:and are you okay with that i it's true i can't really be mad like this is reality i'm having

12:09Devon Carlson:to just appreciate it and accept it we work perfectly together your sisters your best friends

12:15Father Cooper:and your business partners your company wildflower creates the best phone cases i'm pretty sure when we were drunk at olivia o 'brien's music video or somewhere you guys like light me like you lightly started telling me the first time i think it was we were like upstairs Yes. Oh my god. No, you came over before. You came over to a lipid.

12:38Devon Carlson:Oh my god, yes, and you broke the latex outfit.

12:40Father Cooper:Oh my god, I did. Yeah, and it was like so awkward because I didn't know anyone. I was like, hi girls, and you guys were so nice. You were like, show us your vagina. Let's just get out of the way. Let's go. Yes, yes, yes. I remember that.

12:49Sydney Carlson:And we were like, we love her.

12:51Father Cooper:And then we got drunk at the music video while Olivia was like crushing it in the corner. We're like, she's working. We're just going to get hammered. And you guys started to tell me the story of how it all came to be. Tell us the story for the daddy gang that doesn't know.

13:04Devon Carlson:Well, it happened 10 years ago now. We just celebrated our 10-year anniversary.

13:09Father Cooper:Congratulations. That's fucking ball. Thank you. It's crazy. Holy shit.

13:13Devon Carlson:Very crazy. I really wanted a phone case for my birthday. and there was like iPhones had just come out so there wasn't really cute accessory phone cases it was just kind of like the solid color protective ones like it wasn't like thought of an accessory just like just to cover your phone and our mom has always been very creative and crafty she was making like the shorts with like the studs on them and putting like sewing fabric on them like

13:42Sydney Carlson:she's always just a very like DIY she was an art teacher she just like crafts doing stuff

13:48Devon Carlson:like that so she thought to get a clear phone case put fabric in it and stud the outside of it like herself and so she made a few of them and gave them to me and devon we went to school and our friends were like what is that we want that so she made them for our friends and so like our friend group had them at school and people were like seeing them and we would go the mall and people would stop us and be like where did you get that phone case like random people all the time so the first day my mom actually carried extras in her car because people would stop us that often she would have been like well i have some if you know you want to buy them there was no company or

14:23Sydney Carlson:anything we literally were just like and it wasn't an idea to make it a company yeah we just were like oh we'll tell our mom what type of fabric to buy and like what stud patterns to do literally

14:32Devon Carlson:didn't there was no vision of growing it or having a company that was yeah no one's plan yeah so then one day she was keeping him on her and we went out to dinner the four of us the four of us family

14:46Sydney Carlson:and we got up to use the bathroom and we were waiting in line and miley cyrus walked out of the bathroom stall and this was like miley's bun era yeah like and i was the biggest hannah montana fan like girls at school knew me as the girl who was obsessed with hannah yeah like yeah my obsession she walked out and I was like holy fuck like I'm like wait and I was like this is my in I have to say something mm-hmm and I was like I know it's really annoying but do you mind if we take a photo together and so then we

15:18Devon Carlson:took a picture together and I took it with the phone that had the phone case on it and my lady was like that phone case is so cute where's it from and we were like our mom made it she was like does she have a company we're like no and she said is your mom here we're like yeah she's like can I go meet her and we We were like, sure. Didn't even go pee. Walk out of the bathroom. And we're like walking back to our table, me, Dev, and Miley. And our parents are like, what are they doing? Like, what's going on?

15:45Sydney Carlson:There was like a girl we went to school with tweeting. Yeah, she was like, what the hell is going on? Like, what is going on?

15:49Devon Carlson:Like, I see the Carlson's. And we're like walking out of the bathroom. And Miley taps our mom on the shoulder and is like, did you make these phone cases? Like, they're so cute. And we were like, yeah. And she was like, you guys should start a business. Like, this is really cool. This is a really cool idea. You guys should like start a business. and my dad looked at her my dad was a graphic designer for years and so we looked at Miley and said we'll have a website in the morning yeah and we were like yeah we will and in the midst she got my twitter handle and so she ended up we gave her all the cases off our phones too and the ones in the car yeah we were like take everything what do you want you could have everything she went back to her table yeah took a photo of them tweeted it tagged me in her tweet everyone

16:33Sydney Carlson:started and this was like 2012 twitter like no one it was unheard of to get mentioned by like anyone like a celebrity or anything like that and so and all of our phones had died yes so we

16:45Devon Carlson:didn't even know we're driving home like freaking out waiting to get a phone charger all of us plug

16:49Sydney Carlson:our phones in we're like oh and all the phones like and everyone from school is texting texting

16:55Devon Carlson:us like what's this tweet my dad stays up all night that night i mean when miley cyrus fucking

17:02Father Cooper:looks at you it is like you need to have a company and your dad's like there will be

17:07Sydney Carlson:so when we started tweeting like responding to people like wildflowercases.com we had all the inventory we had nothing we ended up selling our house and that funded all of wildflower and we moved into our grandma and grandpa's house and we still ran all of wildflower for the first five years inside of our house and we would i did all of the yeah i quit my job first i did our mom quit her job and then our dad when he did we were like okay this is like real this is real so we like i tried to go to college i really was like kind of embarrassed about like it was weird because no one was starting companies like it was me and sydney kind of like sydney more so because she was like a freshman and it was taking time away from hanging out with her friends it was like weird it was weird to be doing business so it wasn't like as supported as it is now so yeah i guess

18:02Father Cooper:i could kind of see that because they're like what are you doing and like it was like no one

18:05Sydney Carlson:it was very like you're not going to college and we're i was like i had one friend in high school

18:10Devon Carlson:throughout all of this because they thought it was different and weird and like it it wasn't the

18:17Sydney Carlson:normal it was a lot of just like making fun like like oh yeah like whatever we would I and like

18:23Father Cooper:posting on Instagram was like weird I think people that are now beginning the TikTok phase of like feeling embarrassed that if like kids find their TikTok right in school because people like oh it's embarrassing and it's like no it's not yeah why is it very normal have you guys ever talked to Miley about that like whole blow up and moment I did recent not like recently but beginning of this

18:44Sydney Carlson:year one of our friends was working with her and i got the opportunity to like meet her and hang out

18:51Devon Carlson:with her we actually saw her a lot she's really great and really cool and i just kept being like

18:57Sydney Carlson:i owe so much to you like you don't understand it's really fucking cool to see how much you

19:03Father Cooper:guys have grown and also how close you guys are so it hasn't broken up the family no if anything

19:08Sydney Carlson:it was like our family depends on this so if not everyone's not holding up their part of the bargain like then we're not gonna have a roof over our heads so it was like literally we had to work I mean I feel like now we're at a point where we've been able we're lucky enough to build a team that we're like we genuinely trust and have been able to delegate enough stuff out so now it's like I feel like I'm actually starting to live my college years since I like worked through my real yeah but i mean it's just so like endlessly happy and grateful and like just it's still very surreal

19:46Father Cooper:it's crazy girls we're gonna talk about your dating lives take your sip of alcohol here we go

19:54Sydney Carlson:i'm gonna go back and forth between both of you okay i'm gonna give you each the love and the

19:58Father Cooper:attention that you deserve okay devin we're starting with you okay are you currently dating anyone um yes how serious is it has he met your family tell us well there's like

20:18Devon Carlson:blushing oh she's blushing he

20:24Devon Carlson:she doesn't know what to say take your time he's really he's like Like, that wasn't awesome.

20:33Sydney Carlson:Take a deep breath. Deep breath. Take your time.

20:37Father Cooper:Just share where you're comfortable, like fun stuff.

20:39Sydney Carlson:Well, we, so obviously I was in a relationship for a very long time, a public relationship. And we had like the most mutual breakup ever. And we still are totally chill and friends and supportive of each other and whatever. and um but then I was like holy fuck I'm single for the first time in my entire life well adult life basically and uh I just went on a wild journey that's I feel like lasted almost a year-ish and it so the guy I'm currently with was a part of that early on and has just kind of been with me back and forth through that but now we're uh exclusively seeing each other and he has made it through my craziest moments and still likes me for whatever reason

21:37Father Cooper:thank you for sharing can you give us a little bit of an explanation when you're talking about like a wild year just just a little bit of what you're talking about i was just like zero fucks

21:47Sydney Carlson:Like I'll go on a date with anyone right now. Like just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun. Good for you. I kept being like nervous that no one like no one was going to like me or hit on.

22:06Father Cooper:I I was so insecure about it. I get it. When you're in a long term relationship. First, it's a little shocking to end that whether it was like a good breakup, bad breakup. it's like I'm single what does it even mean like how do I even act what the fuck do I do yeah and

22:21Sydney Carlson:so you just went like a little wild and you had a fucking great year yeah I just kept being like scared that people were think that I was like thinking I was being crazy but in my head I'm like I have never really done this like there's no way that I'm being crazy did you think she

22:34Devon Carlson:was being crazy yes no I thought she I thought she was more crazy at the end of your relationship

22:40Father Cooper:okay than out of it so you were happy she was out of it yeah it was like honestly the best

22:45Devon Carlson:months ever i was like this is the most fun we've ever had and it kind of was a little bit of the same feeling that like she had when i was in a relationship but not as intense at all but was just like wow we're really like just free and hanging and like our friend group was just like

22:58Sydney Carlson:it was just so like free right do you think you're more of a relationship girl i think for being single yeah from like the moments that i was single i just kept finding myself like in real

23:12Devon Carlson:like like situation are you single I'm single are you more relationship girl or single girl um well I don't know because like she's a the type of relationship girl where she will get in multiple relationships very easily I might be a relationship type of person but I don't get into them very often at all got it even in like high school she had a different boyfriend every month I think I had one maybe all four years like I just it takes me a lot to get to that point to

23:44Father Cooper:actually date someone everyone's got their own thing like I have friends like both and that

23:49Sydney Carlson:works for her totally she's just so harsh and it's like but the thing is the things that she says aren't like not true like she'll she would bring up things about like a guy I was seeing and I was like oh fuck like I was a guy was dropping me off at a hotel and she was like I thought it was your or she goes up to him and goes i thought you were her uber driver and i was like and he was like hey i was like oh i thought you were the uber i literally said then that

24:15Devon Carlson:afterwards i was like oh my god i called him the uber driver was he like mortified he needed it

24:20Father Cooper:he needed to be humbled okay so you will call out shit about the guy she's seeing yeah she will

24:27Sydney Carlson:literally be sitting on my couch and being like make me a latte oh and he did this guy she was

24:31Devon Carlson:like the other one i was like i want a smoothie and he made me a smoothie and he put chocolate

24:35Father Cooper:chips in it why do you do that just like test the like boundaries i just like it's very entertaining

24:40Devon Carlson:for me to watch all of this happen so it's just like i'm like watching tv and like right can be

24:44Father Cooper:a part of it how does it make you feel when she's doing this i just love when my sister interacts

24:49Sydney Carlson:with any guy that i've seen at all because i feel like it takes a lot for her to be herself around people okay right and that's why like the new guy that i that i'm with the fact that she can like be her funny self around him like means more to me than like almost anything but i just think i care a lot what my friends think like if my friends don't like someone i'm pretty like when it comes to guys i'm like oh they're done then it's not yeah it's not happening have you

25:18Devon Carlson:gone on any dates recently i have been on one date my whole life are you in stock i know she

25:24Father Cooper:said the same thing she said that she was like i don't go on dates like i'll see you at like hide or like i'll see you like fuck stops and she's like or they come to my house yeah why do you think you're just like not dating i how do you meet people i guess i guess i guess i i guess i

25:40Devon Carlson:i guess i i don't i don't know i just i have never been interested in that type of dating like going on dates with new people i had everyone that i have gotten into a relationship with i have been friends with and become really close with and then I'm like oh my god we have feelings we're dating got it got it I'm just not even that it's like hard or uncomfortable I just don't care to I'm not that type of dater I guess went on one date and she was like group chatting us like who's

26:12Sydney Carlson:gonna come meet up with us now like because I was like instantly not into it and I knew I

26:16Devon Carlson:wasn't into it I just I guess also I rarely find people that I feel like I could date seriously I don't know there's some people that I'm like okay I there's something about this person that

26:29Father Cooper:I could like but that happens very rarely I think that's fair yeah okay how would you each describe each other's type

26:39Sydney Carlson:oh i'm curious what you will say sydney likes like well they have to be funny okay funnier than you

26:48Father Cooper:sydney has to find them funny okay which is like unique sense of humor um she kind of likes when they're like i don't want to like offend anyone go for it what are you're gonna say but she likes like what's the nicest way to put it i know i don't know sydney

27:14Sydney Carlson:likes interesting looking people like they have to be unique looking there's something like almost off about them or their style is very like weird like the normal person would be like

27:29Father Cooper:they're weird that's sydney's type and what do you say back to that i would agree that's a funny way to describe it how would you describe it i just like i'm really attracted to men who are like

27:41Devon Carlson:very comfortable in themselves and who they are and like don't just give off that vibe like they don't care what other people think of them and they will wear whatever they want look however they want and they're just like confident in that and who they are i think it makes me very comfortable around them and be like i could totally be myself say whatever i want wear what i want and They would be like, that's cool. Give me Devin's type. Honestly, you're kind of all over the place with the types.

28:10Father Cooper:Is it musicians all through and through? Usually musicians. They find me.

28:15Devon Carlson:It's not me. So it's not my fault.

28:18Father Cooper:OK, what did you say?

28:18Devon Carlson:Like, it can be a musician. OK. And that ranges in all areas. OK. But as long as they're a musician, I think she has some sort of attraction.

28:26Sydney Carlson:Is it because they sing to you? no I like I find I just find like when Sydney said like when someone sew themselves like that to me is so attractive like when they just don't like they aren't trying to impress anyone it and I think that they're cool totally like I just think that that's yeah or I find them interesting but like the musician part I think dating wise my lifestyle just works well with someone who's like like our schedules usually work better when it's like we're constantly both traveling you're a

29:00Devon Carlson:backstage bitch that's fucking backstage lifestyle well we were dancers we like music but it's just

29:06Sydney Carlson:funny because half the time i'm literally like i like the music that i like it's never really like the guys that i right

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31:53Father Cooper:Grab yours today on Amazon. Use as directed. You kind of talked about how you had an intense relationship that you guys had a little like not falling out, but you just kind of press pause in your relationship. Devin, how did you approach handling when you didn't like who Sydney was dating? we just did not talk about it but i knew it was very but it was more so because

32:20Sydney Carlson:my boyfriend and her boyfriend weren't like didn't really mesh and he was like they didn't ever want to be in the same place so it not because anything had happened it was more just like didn't like no no communication was the communication so it was just constantly avoiding each other and then I was like obviously I have to be loyal to the person that I was with and she felt the same so then we were just kind of like coexisting and working together so when you guys

32:52Devon Carlson:would work would you just like not talk I mean we're so busy there was not really any talking

32:56Sydney Carlson:but we wouldn't like customer service and she was packing and shipping every order and so it was like literally just hours of me responding or answering phone calls and Sydney just like

33:06Devon Carlson:but we wouldn't hang out outside of that and did your parents know what was going on yeah yeah they weren't too fond of him either I don't think anybody was but I also think everyone has to have a relationship like that it was like such an insane experience but I'm so glad it happened like I forever I'm like so grateful of that relationship and I also was like I think I met him when I was like 18 19 and it lasted till I was like 22 so it was like Like a lot of, I was young and I, that was kind of my first like big intense relationship and it just took everything out of me and I had never been at something that intense.

33:47Devon Carlson:And I, I, I mean, I talk about it. It's not like something I hide at all, but he was a drug addict and that was something that kind of developed over the years and also something that I didn't know much about being so young. I didn't know what anything was or like what was bad, what wasn't. and also something that I didn't want to talk to my family about or my friends about you know how do you like tell your friends and family that that's what you're dealing with and going through so like that kind of ate at me inside and took a lot of like everything out of me that just consumed me like I bleached my hair classic when you're in like a terrible relationship and like my hair was falling out I had like an eating disorder I stopped talking to a lot of my friends my family like

34:34Sydney Carlson:talking and i just like consumed it all in myself because it was so like i was trying to help him

34:41Devon Carlson:and be there for him but also like he wasn't giving that to me it was like the lowest lows i've ever had but also when it was great it felt like amazing so like i held on to those moments and it was just a lot but you know our parents have been together since they went to prom together

35:00Sydney Carlson:in high school like they were each other's first boyfriend and girlfriend and they've they're still

35:05Devon Carlson:together they're like so growing up that was like my view of what love is like you find that one and you do anything to make it work which is amazing and I'm so glad we have that and that they have that but also getting into a relationship like that I'm like I will fight for this I will do anything to keep it you know no matter how much it hurts or whatever like this is what love is and I had to learn that's not the truth you know when it hurts you that bad you that's when you

35:32Father Cooper:don't you know you say this isn't right I thank you for sharing that because I had something similar in high school that was like my first love and I really think a lot of people will will relate to like the good is like in moments because it's so good because you're contrasting the awfulness of those moments and so you're like holding on to the good and I think that like I mean everyone knows once you're out of it and you're like oh I did distance myself from my friends and family you can look back but when you're fucking in it it's literally you're just

36:01Devon Carlson:trying you're blinded you're like I had no idea and it honestly took a few years out of that to just get back to like myself I like I didn't even think about dating or like seeing other people I was just like okay I need to get back to like myself and like my friends and my family and like focus on myself and after that like that took a few years I'm like currently the best I've ever been and like so content being alone almost too content where I'm like I would rather stay home than go out at this point but I'm I probably could be in a relationship if I wanted to right now but I'm very content now knowing have you guys had conversations about like fuck

36:43Father Cooper:we can never let this happen to each other again and like lose each other in those moments yeah

36:47Sydney Carlson:I was pretty like when she, when I, she called me and I was at breakfast with my boyfriend and she was like, he cheated on me. We just broke up and I dropped everything. Didn't even finish my meal and just immediately drove home. She's like, it's happening.

37:05Devon Carlson:Called. I literally was like, oh my God. It's happening.

37:09Sydney Carlson:Everyone's like, I know. And so I called, um, our childhood best friend who basically was like Sydney's second older sister.

37:17Devon Carlson:I was like, they broke up. She's like, I'm on my way. So we all literally, I called everyone

37:21Sydney Carlson:and we all got there as fast as we could. And then my best friend, Nicole, and I took Sydney to Disneyland the next day. And we kept being like, because the friends that she had had at that time that she was like closest with, I felt like didn't ever like tell her like, get the fuck out of there. Like a lot of the friends that wanted, it was like, she didn't want to hear what we were saying necessarily. And I was like, we got to show her what it's like to like be treated right have really good friends and healthy relationships and so I was like welcoming Sydney in with open arms to anything we were doing I was like always inviting my sister even if she didn't come 20 times in a row I was like you're invited you're invited you're invited you're invited until she like finally started coming and having fun and then getting comfortable and then um she just like blossomed into the sydney that

38:14Devon Carlson:we've known all along how did you find out he cheated uh the girl well the last time the girl dm me oh and it was classic he was classic he was also a musician but was on tour and it happened somewhere and she like sent me photos in his shirt and was like that feeling

38:36Father Cooper:when you find out and you're like, I don't even know what to do with myself right now.

38:41Devon Carlson:Oh my God. My stomach, I like all my anxiety, everything goes to my stomach, which is why I think it made me like just not eat because that's immediately what I feel is in my stomach. And I was like so lost because I didn't have close friends. I barely talked to my family. I felt like my world was like, oh my God, this can't end. Like I have nothing. Thank God. Thank God. I'm like, thank you for cheating on me. That was like the best thing you've ever done. It was the best thing ever.

39:07Father Cooper:In the moment, the shit that sucks. Then you look back and you're like, thank fucking God you fucked up. Yeah, I am so glad you cheated. Because if it wasn't that, I may have still been in that shit. And look where you are fucking now.

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41:59Sydney Carlson:yeah i have like 10 accounts of course i have like i'm like how many do i have i have like this stalker account you have your finsta you have your stalker of course oh i am psycho wait tell me i love it oh she actually is i i love that like i love you even more now because she's like yeah she's like well no I when my ex-boyfriend used to go on tour when we got back because we dated we broke up then we got back together and that was like the seven year yeah yeah I in the beginning was a fucking maniac I don't know how he put up with me I love it I would create I would go on and I would like look up their tour or I had the tour manager like he forwarded me their tour schedule and so i would go to every venue's instagram page and like watch every story of everyone that was there and then look at like the girl everyone's profile that was there tagged photos everything i actually really respect you for admitting it because i

42:56Father Cooper:feel like there's no shame in stalking like who gives a fuck it's too everyone does it everyone

43:02Sydney Carlson:say you don't you're lying i know every like even this guy that i had gone on a few dates with he like dm me and it was the first time that i had gone and met up with someone over dm that i didn't previously know but like he knew people that i knew and whatever and so i was like okay and we hung out and he's like so we're just gonna act like we haven't like completely i love that i was like you're like attractive you're like suddenly it was like he was bringing up things and i was bringing up things and then i was like suddenly i'm 20 times more comfortable with you yeah yeah it feels like i know you already we were arguing by the end of the date

43:39Father Cooper:and i was just like whatever well because it's also like let's just keep it real i know who your ex-girlfriend is already yeah everyone this is our first date yeah and i know who she is where she where she works like it's everything i'd like to just get it i agree let's just get it out yeah girls we're about to play a game we're like okay go under your seats you have these two little card basically we're gonna play which sister do not i was feeling under the chair like where okay so we're playing which sister is more likely to okay and so don't show each other but like basically i'm gonna ask and you'll hold up whichever whichever sister is more likely to okay okay which sister is more likely to be the favorite child

44:25Sydney Carlson:wait why no shame honestly Sydney gets away with everything I always got in trouble for it she always says 50 times crazier things but I always get the youngest child youngest I think that's

44:38Father Cooper:just the youngest thing which sister is more likely to take something from the other sister's closet without asking this is a great moment you're both taking accountability well because

44:51Sydney Carlson:I just I want to avoid the thing is I'm like if I ask it's gonna start drama before the night goes out or whatever okay I would rather postpone the drama and deal with it later so I can just feel good wear the top that I want to wear and then I think I could steal it and get away with it I feel like you would sneaky little ask no no maybe she hasn't I haven't noticed you don't

45:12Father Cooper:know shit okay which sister is more likely to post drunk on Instagram it used to be me but i feel like it's still you what do you drunkenly post you just not give a fuck you're like post like she'll just post she

45:30Sydney Carlson:just does i'll just think something's so funny and be like yeah this is my bit for the night and

45:34Devon Carlson:then the next morning i'm like what are you doing yeah but then i'm like it's too late you can't

45:39Sydney Carlson:yeah right because then they know you regret it and then you can't delete it just leave it

45:42Father Cooper:Which sister is more likely to give better head?

45:50Sydney Carlson:I'm just being ourselves. We're like.

45:52Father Cooper:You're like both ourselves like hi. For every answer, I'm like, I'm so weird. Self-aware. I love that. I love that. Okay, great, you guys. Great head game. Which sister is more likely to fuck on the first date?

46:08Sydney Carlson:And he's like, do you not call? I'm like, I don't go on dates, remember?

46:11Father Cooper:on the first hangout like that doesn't but guess who she goes on more dates more okay there you go there you go

46:17Sydney Carlson:I have never fucked on the first date

46:20Father Cooper:I love that for you

46:21Sydney Carlson:Sydney

46:21Father Cooper:get it in and get it out okay goodbye I don't go on dates okay which sister is more likely to if they were ever to go on a reality show do you want to go on one yes she has been trying

46:33Sydney Carlson:to get our family on a reality show since she was in high school

46:36Devon Carlson:we actually for like a year we're like talking to people about doing the other show

46:40Father Cooper:but I would watch it one viewer get canceled after one season which sister is more likely to text

46:47Sydney Carlson:their ex when drunk love that for you are you literally just staring at it and be like she

46:54Devon Carlson:won't even like tell anyone she'll do it and then be like and it'll just be like a random person

46:59Sydney Carlson:my random choosing of the night I'll be like fuck out of her leg about and everyone's like Devin

47:04Father Cooper:what are you doing Devin and she's like I'm like so proud like I said yeah she's like also she

47:10Devon Carlson:doesn't get like scary it's like she will text her ex do whatever and then the next morning she'll be like that last night was so fun and I'm like what like how do you do that she doesn't get like any

47:21Father Cooper:I love being it's admirable which sister is more likely to have a threesome have you had a threesome she won't call it that but she won't call it that because there was there were four boom even better even I love that for you was it fun or was it awkward no it was great great and it was my friend was there oh so I was like so it was totally fine it was fun okay good for you which sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club

47:55Devon Carlson:low-key Devin what the fuck are you doing in the pub

47:59Father Cooper:why are you crazy

48:00Sydney Carlson:I'm really clumsy so I knock over a lot of stuff she'll spill drinks she'll spill break things that's why it wouldn't be because I'm like it would be because I've had two drinks and I go like not trying to fight we were in Vegas and I went with some of my old dance friends and we kept knocking over the champagne and the guy picked up the bottle and he goes you're done

48:18Devon Carlson:and we were like not even drinking just because she keeps knocking things over

48:22Father Cooper:I feel like you guys are so connected. You'd be like, um, Stas, get me back in. She'd be like, security's coming.

48:27Sydney Carlson:Tell them you're with Stas.

48:29Father Cooper:It's so good. It's so good. Okay, which one? Oh, my God. This is a sad one. Which sister is more likely to get cheated on?

48:35Devon Carlson:We all know the answer to this.

48:38Sydney Carlson:I would never let that. I would literally go to the. Like, I would cheat before they could cheat. Yeah, absolutely. Stop.

48:46Devon Carlson:If I found out they were with someone, I'd be like, who the fuck? I'm honestly the face of being cheated on. I mean, like. You're over it. Yeah. you're done you're not getting the glow up it gave me yeah you're you're gonna be fine i stand by

48:56Father Cooper:you're okay which sister is more likely to cheat in a relationship do not say that i honestly don't think either of us would loyal lovely girls just so so lovely okay yeah no one's cheating here we're just getting cheated on over here come on okay which sister is more likely to slide in and dm a

49:19Sydney Carlson:celebrity on i don't think no i've never dm'd anyone i have to open your phone i literally really you've never dm'd anyone no i've never gone out of my way to like dm someone that i don't

49:34Devon Carlson:whatever i think it's funny sometimes i haven't in a while sydney does it all the time takes a screenshot unsend yeah i love that i do that to make her laugh i'll dm someone funny and then unsundant okay which sister is more likely to be in an open relationship none i think i'm too

49:51Sydney Carlson:i've literally had gone jealous yeah i've gone through moments where i'm like oh i could totally if i was like constantly told that i was like the one you're like i need a lot of reinforcement so if she's like not shit sure but i honestly i don't think that it'd be fair to like the other

50:10Father Cooper:girls or whatever and yeah you don't have to give us a speech you're like the the reason it's not fair with the other girls i'm gonna be the shit i'm the best i'm down for like friends with benefits

50:21Sydney Carlson:where it's like okay you i know that you're hooking up but if we're dating dating i make

50:25Devon Carlson:you my boyfriend i agree also because if i make someone my boyfriend i don't want to be dating other people that's not my intentions so why would we ever ever i want to know both of you

50:35Father Cooper:said you can go first okay what is the toxic that you like attract and you're like fuck i hate it that I'm attracted to? We all like the toxic. And then how are you toxic in a relationship?

50:44Devon Carlson:Oh, I think the toxic I'm attracted to because this could also be someone who's non-toxic, but it mainly is, is like big personalities. Like people who are very much their own life, their own ways, big personalities. I could get wrapped up in their life easily in a bad way.

51:07Sydney Carlson:Interesting.

51:08Devon Carlson:But it's like exciting and fun to do, but like it's obviously bad because i'm like separated from my own life so that um i don't know how i'm toxic in relationships maybe because i like give too much of myself like toxic and like

51:23Father Cooper:bad way for myself oh my god you're like an angel you're like i am not because i'm like i already don't miss jealous over here like just wait to get to me but i hear what you're saying you're like oh okay she's like let me go okay so but i get what you're saying you just kind of give yourself

51:39Sydney Carlson:too much you like lose yourself yeah okay we're not letting that happen but i'm not doing it anymore nope don't get any ideas yeah it's actually the best like most thoughtful like girlfriend ever like even for like i love shopping i'm really good at shopping i'll give you the best like most thoughtful gift but words sydney will write you a book oh and like make it so so embarrassing

52:01Father Cooper:no it's cute i think we should normalize like cute shit for relationships like oh you're a Right.

52:05Sydney Carlson:Shut the fuck up.

52:06Father Cooper:Yeah. I'm in love.

52:07Sydney Carlson:Please. Okay. I'm in love.

52:09Father Cooper:Shut up. Please. We're in love. Right. Okay. What toxic are you attracting, Devin? And how are you toxic? I know we kind of heard about your fake account, but.

52:18Sydney Carlson:I think the toxic that I'm attracted to is like someone who's like good with their words or like knows is witty.

52:30Devon Carlson:Yeah.

52:31Sydney Carlson:I think that people like that just know how to get what they want. and I think that um maybe I know how to give what I want you do it right back I'll give it right back I get that no that's like a scary combo we're just like match the energy so if you are giving me something then I'm gonna give it back but like slightly more to the point of like right we're gonna drive each other absolutely insane lastly

52:59Father Cooper:who has like a crazy fucking dating story whether it was a one night stand whether it was a bad hookup gone wrong bad sex i have i have like a really like it should be a bad date but it ended up being a good day share it share it we're here for it we love story time um i was in new york

53:19Sydney Carlson:and it was the day after valentine's day and we had been like we had gone on a couple dates before but it was like only whenever I was like visiting and he had just gotten into town and he was like okay I'll pick you up and we'll go out to dinner and then he texts me before and he's like would you want to see a movie and I was like no I'm fucking hungry like I want to eat and so he's like I said I'm pretty hungry and he was like okay well I'm not gonna get there for like an hour and And it was like eight o 'clock at this point.

53:55Devon Carlson:And Sydney was in a room under me at our hotel.

53:57Sydney Carlson:So I kept going through the like staff stairs and I went into a room and I was like, it's not going to be here for another hour. She's very fucking serious. I was like, I'm so hungry. She like sits on my bed.

54:09Devon Carlson:So I was like in such a pissy mood.

54:11Sydney Carlson:And so then I stopped answering him and then he called me and he was like, I'm sorry. I'm running even later than I thought. Like, I don't think I'm going to get there till like nine thirty. red flags i was like he's like do you just want to go see a movie and i was like i'm so hungry i was like i don't understand like i'm so hungry and why i don't know so we're already arguing and then i ended up hanging up and he's like what are you gonna do and i was like well i'm gonna eat like i'm if you don't want to come out here and i thought we were gonna go to dinner i've been waiting to eat right then i'm gonna go eat and he's like where are you going whatever he like told me uh gave me a recommendation of a good place to go and so I go there and he's like calling me and I was like decline decline decline like whatever and he's like okay well I'm at the restaurant that we were gonna meet at and I was like okay well I'm not and he was like do you want me to pick you up and I was like obviously it's February in New York I'm not fucking walking right

55:15Father Cooper:granted it was one block away get in a car bitch i was like it takes longer to drive

55:22Sydney Carlson:i was like you know where i am and so then he obviously pulled around knew exactly where i was came in got me in the car and he's like i can't believe you just made me drive a block i was like i can't believe you were an hour and a half late yeah what and so we ended up going on this date and i was just like zero fucks at this point he like parks we walk in we sit we start eating and we're just like roasting each other going on and on having so much fun the bill comes he's like no no forgot his wallet and I was like he's the one I called a new driver are you fucking serious and he starts dying laughing and I just kept being like I'm so excited to see how you make this up for me because I'm like I'm not gonna let this go so I pay for dinner and then he's like

56:10Devon Carlson:okay well let me i'll drive you home back to your one block away thank you and i'm like sitting here

56:16Sydney Carlson:i'm like oh my god i'm such a princess we go outside his car is towed no no no no gone gone the car is gone and we just started looking at each other we're dying laughing and then um did you give him a kiss and go home you didn't even did you catch him

56:38Father Cooper:yeah we slept together what do you mean what do you mean like what are you talking about we fully fucked i gave the best sex of his life and i went and got his car and i paid for the show in the morning i got his car back when a man does that he's like oh go fuck yourself like do the fact

56:57Sydney Carlson:and i fucked him obviously i was like okay this is what dating is yeah you have such a good story

57:04Father Cooper:you're right like the ups and downs the amount of times i can look back in my 20s even my teens of the time that you're trying to play it off cool like but you're waiting and you're waiting

57:12Sydney Carlson:i was but it was honestly it was we had such a fun time and in the morning he like bought me like a huge bouquet of flowers it was beautiful and then he dropped me off and then he met my

57:22Devon Carlson:sister and she roasted him and that's what you said i thought you were the uber driver deserved wait why what kind of car did you drive it looks like like the black lincoln like yeah yeah town

57:32Sydney Carlson:car like it looks like an uber car can i get in next you know i'm going what is i was waving at her at the front seat like i was like why is she in the front seat of the uber dude i love it i also

57:45Father Cooper:love how you like roast kind of the guys that kevin is with because it puts them in their fucking

57:49Sydney Carlson:they deserve it they're like great i don't think i've ever dated like a not great guy like i i don't really have any bad things to say about anyone that i've like do you agree with that

57:58Devon Carlson:statement uh yeah i don't think they're bad guys at all they're just a little cringy sometimes

58:03Father Cooper:and you point it out yes that's i'm like guys we love i love you guys thank you for coming on Call Her Daddy. Thank you for having me.

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This episode, Devon and Sydney Carlson join Father Cooper. They’re sisters, best friends and business partners. Devon and Sydney recount how a bathroom run-in with Miley Cyrus led to the overnight development of their company, Wildflower. The sisters spill all of their secrets while playing a game of “Who is More Likely to ...” Which Carlson sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club and who will be texting their ex once they get drunk? Which sister gives better head? Devon and Sydney do not hold back while discussing their dating lives. Devon reveals the extreme lengths she went to in order to stalk her ex on social media and how she struggled being single after a long term relationship ended. Sydney opens up about her ex’s drug addiction, the effect it had on her mentally and physically, and how it ultimately led her to push away from family and friends.


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