Hailey Bieber (FBF)

0:02What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

0:14okay hello hailey beaver welcome to call her daddy hi how did you pick your outfit for today i just wanted to feel comfortable and i feel like i just wanted to wear like jeans and a t-shirt and be cozy little but like still cute still like a little vibe i feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking and then having like a tinge of like super like sexy and cute but like still like you can I can't stand being uncomfortable I like I'll do it for a certain amount of time sorry amount of time she's burping yeah like I'm throwing up the first person to throw up on call her daddy is me um sorry I when I say I will do it for a certain amount of time I mean like if I have to like go be on a carpet for a second and it's just like the look is the look and there's like something like stabbing me in the side like I'll endure it for a second for a few hours and then I need to tell you one time I went to a fitting and this woman was like oh my god try on these heels and I was like whoa like those look aggressive and like they're the Hailey Bieber heels like they're the classic one she always wears and I was like Jimmy Choo I don't even know Hailey I don't know I was like oh okay I guess I'll try them off Hailey wears them hailey they were the most uncomfortable shoe i've ever put on in my life i was like what the fuck how does she walk in these it's the one you know what i'm talking about it's the one that's platform yes but it's the it's basically just the bottom of a shoe and then the string goes around your fucking i used to be a ballet dancer and like dance on point flex on us so i think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just like used to being like it doesn't care it's a gift because when I tell you I couldn't walk after I wore those I was like okay Haley we're not on the same playing field she clearly knows what she's doing if you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends who would it be it's so interesting because I feel like me and all my friends have such different style that I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet that is just I mean who wouldn't want to share like trade closets with her I'll trade houses with her too if she ever wants I'm like you know what I think I agree yeah I think I take we're also the same shoe size what size are you an eight I don't want to overstep but so am I so if you have any hand-me-downs so if we want to exchange shoes we can do that not your heels though it's I think it's so funny that I'm like thinking about I'm like, who can I actually like wear all their stuff?

2:56I'm like, well, she's an A and I'm an A. I'm like, it's actually just a game. But you're like, no, logistically. No, I love it. I'm such a logistical thinker. I'm like, but if I was to trade with this person and she's a size nine and a half, then I can't have any of this. She's like, Haley, this is not real. It's fantasy. It's a game. We can pretend. Like, OK, but I love it. OK, so Kylie hit us up. We're ready to take over your closet.

3:33you came in here there's paparazzi taking photos of you it's a lot how do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside it's really funny because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were like following me in the car which is like it happens all the time whatever like I know that's gonna happen if I'm in LA there's not very many ways to avoid it they just sit at the bottom of like my street so it is what it is but I was driving and like sometimes when there's paparazzi following me I have a flash in my head of like getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car like I literally sometimes it like it makes me just so annoyed that I'm like one of these days I swear to god I'm gonna get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat and I'm going to like destroy their this is a hypothetical situation by the way she's being hypothetical i just like and driving over here i was like i literally like that's my urge right now and i'm like at the same time do i want to give anybody the power to like disturb my energy like that no but it's just like a feeling of it's just annoying it's the feeling of like hitting a breaking point of like i just I can't stand it anymore.

4:48Yeah. And some days are totally fine though and some I can avoid it and like I sometimes like get really lucky and like sneak different ways to like do it. But I think what I've come to terms with is like that's gonna happen in LA. Right. You know what I mean? This isn't the like middle of nowhere like you know where there's like actual privacy. It's like the land of where everything happens and there's tons of people here it's also like I'm not the only person that deals with this it's like so many people deal with it and it comes with the territory and it's not like I hate when people are like well you asked for this because it's like I don't think that's like a real thing to say I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras but I do understand that it comes with the territory it's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions right do you have a hard time trusting people sometimes sometimes I feel like I'm the type of person and I've always been this way where I'm like I trust people until they prove me wrong which is like I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be I'm a people person like I love to connect with people I love meeting new people I sometimes have a hard time with like becoming like friends with someone or close to someone but like I love being cool with people and like being social and meeting people and knowing their story and like where are they from I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time some newer friends some not but I just think yeah I think there's sometimes that that aspect of like the distrust of like I don't know what you want to be around for have you ever had someone take advantage of you and your situation and like kind of love that it's like oh I get this lifestyle around her and like how do you deal with that my personality is very like I don't do well with confrontation I don't like to like confront awkward situations.

6:59I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that. But I never want to like, I've always been the type of person where like, I don't want to like end things on like a sour note with a person because especially if there's someone like in an industry where I have to see them or like if we're going to be out somewhere and I got to see you, like I don't want to walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone. Like that stresses me out big time crazy. Even if it's so you can stick up for yourself. Yeah. We're working on that today. Yeah. We're working on that today. Yeah. Even if it, that's something I struggle with.

7:33Even if it's for me sticking up with myself, I just want to like, cause I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial. I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like there was like a lot of stuff I found out about the situation. And then I knew if I confronted the person they were just not going to own up to any of it so it's like what's the point right if I'm going to go to you and be like here's what I found out I know that it's true I've seen the proof I've too many people have said something to me about it and they're just going to be like I can't believe you would believe that about me like that's just not true why am I going to waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going who's not in the place in their life or like the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all because I can do confrontation if it's in a calm appropriate I'm not a yeller like I'm not gonna like freak out and like I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really like passionate about or defensive about because like I've had that happen to me before but I still always want to end it on like a how did we move forward from here not like and and sometimes the reality I've had to face is that like sometimes that's not possible like sometimes you just can't be around that person or be friends with that person and like it is what it is totally you just have to move on so many people in the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life and I think the public can kind of feel that from you of like you don't like confrontation you rarely will speak out on things if there's drama which I think so many people do respect you for but how much does that then weigh on you of things piling up on you that it's like when is going to be a good moment for Haley to just kind of like speak her truth and you've done it a couple times on the internet which I think people were like oh fuck yes like Haley let's go which we're going to get into well I think based on what you're saying like one of the I think issues with that is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing and I had to get over that because I was in a place at one point where I felt like I wanted to like explain the narrative and explain myself and like that's also exhausting so if it's like every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's gonna be something that people are like why would she say that or like she's wrong for saying that or that doesn't make sense you said marriage is hard work and then I said that and everybody was like that's not a good sign if you think that it's like hard like it's like no matter what I say I'm always going to have to be explaining myself to people which is why I actually hate doing interviews where they're like it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said that's just so out of context and then I'm going to feel like I'm explaining myself what marriage doesn't have ups and downs and in a good way you get but also what I meant when I said hard work is just like there's compromise there's sacrifice I feel that way in most relationships in my life even friendships even work relationships like they can be tough sometimes I didn't mean it just overall yeah like it's hard and it sucks like that's not what I'm saying at all it's literally the best thing ever the whole sentence of what I said was like he's my best friend I love coming home to him but like yeah it takes work because I'm 25 years old and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends so trying to balance making my wants and needs and hopes and dreams work while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career and like we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage so we're making it work and sometimes it's hard how is that not make sense people don't want it to make sense people really want that statement to be like the marriage is ending like here we go but people have been saying that since the beginning so that's why at this point I'm not as I was more sensitive about it I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like totally no matter what I say it's like the marriage is ending like every single time I say something like here we go about my own relationship it's like there's something wrong with it so it's like I just don't care people have been saying this now for four years so let's get into it you are married I start sticking my feet you're like oh fuck here you go Alex just go she's literally burrowing in like look at my hands oh my god okay you married one of the most famous people on the planet Justin Bieber what are the best parts about being married to Justin well I think the best parts are that he's my best friend and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most makes you laugh the most like he's just literally the best human to me ever and I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through and he has and he's overcome so many different things in his life for being famous so young and the fact that he's as normal as he is he's literally just to me I feel like he's a very like normal regular guy I guarantee you someone takes this and they like fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different um but I've known him for a very long time we were friends for a long time before anything else and like I just love him you can see it with the two of you even though we only see stuff I mean I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara and I grew up I watched Justin Bieber I was like oh like I didn't know what to expect like I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we'd only met once I was like wait why are they so normal Justin's like hey what's up gives me a hug you're like what are you guys doing on your trip I'm like you guys are so so normal for what how crazy your life is and it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys yeah he's also like he just has the kindest sweetest most like gentle heart and soul to me and I've always thought that about him obviously he's gone through phases in his life where he was being you know a little out there I didn't want to say like fuck boy because it's like not yeah but like yes and no I don't know I don't know how to describe it but like he was just in a different space in his life and was like I think ultimately when people are like acting out it's just because they're hurting and he was just in a space in his life I mean we're all hurting every single day but I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like we're hurting a lot more we're going through a lot more so we're just a different version of ourself that's not really who we are um but like to me he's just the best the most fun like I have the most fun with him he understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life and I think that goes both ways and he's just my guy how has being married to someone with that level of fame impacted your identity where do I start um well I think even for starters this even me talking about him or talking about our relationship people will take that and be like all she ever talks about is her relationship with him and even something like that I'm just like well we are married and he's a huge part of my life and obviously people are very interested in like our life together and he is a humongous public figure so it's like it's a little bit unavoidable at times and I do try to you know have my own thing but it's like our lives are completely messed together so I don't know I'm like what do you want from me like of course people are gonna ask me about it they're gonna ask him about it like I just don't see how that's like avoidable as sometimes it is because it's just not necessary to talk about but like even in a situation like this yeah we're married I have his last name like I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid like talking about my life like that's my life this person that you happen to be married to happens to also be one of the most famous people nobody would be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or like you know right a nine to five like I just the reality is that it it is what it is from your point of view can you explain why the internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin in?

16:14First of all, I think one thing is that we're both really young. That's, I think honestly, that's for starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21 and he was 24. Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was going to get married that young. Like I always thought I would be maybe getting married now and I'm 25 now and I still think I'm really young. I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast, which now being four years past that, looking back on it, I totally get it. I'm like, yeah, that seemed really drastic and really crazy because, but that was what we felt was a decision between the two of us.

17:00and it felt correct for the two of us at the time and clearly we were right because here we are four years later and I think just given the timeline of like where he was at before we got back together and what was going on and there was just a lot happening yeah um but I will say too like the only people that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are like me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside you can see it one way when it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors and that's a big challenge I think of being somebody who is in the spotlight or being famous is that I know how we got to where we got period like that's I just know how it happened I was there and I was living it every day so there's just yeah there there's a lot that I can understand why people were so like what is going on like this seems crazy your husband was in a very public relationship they were kids people were obsessed with the idea of them people were confused on the timeline you're talking about of like is she a homewrecker so I guess my question is Haley were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her no not not one time when him and I started hanging out like okay let's just put it this way when him and I ever started like hooking up or like anything of that sort he was not ever in a relationship ever at any point I would never it's not my character to mess with someone's relationship I would just never do that I was that there are situations where you can still kind of have like back and forth with someone, but even that was not the situation.

19:22Like I can say period point blank, I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. And I had been involved with him since I was 18. The timeline also that I think sometimes is in question of like us getting together and getting engaged and him having been spending time with his ex before that. This is so crazy. I've literally never talked about this ever. I understand again how it looks from the outside and there's a lot of perception there but that was a situation where I know for a fact that it was the right thing for them to close that door they were not in a relationship at that time but of course there's a very long history there and it's not my relationship it has nothing to do with me so I respect that a lot but I know that it closed a chapter and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and be engaged and get married and like move on with with his life in that way and it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf again because it was their relationship and I honestly respect that very deeply but I just know what was going on when we got back together And I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way.

21:05And I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made. And I respect that as a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them. And think in the back of my mind, I wonder, like, if that was really, like, closed for you. And like and I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed. And that is respectful to me. So let's talk about your experience with there's been a lot of hate on the Internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never.

21:46It literally makes me so uncomfortable. yeah I'm like I'm like can't stop moving and I'm like crawling because I just feel like there's like a little bit of that like anxiety of like people will probably take it the wrong way or like I just don't want to say something that is like being disrespectful or like bringing up something that can like stir up feelings for someone that like I know that we're just all so far moved on from like any type of drama and I'm so happy for that so like I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like I don't want to like stir anything up or like bring anything up that is going to be like a thing or and I get that and I think the reason unfortunately is you guys aren't completely normal human beings there is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you in different ways and then there are people that hate you for who your husband dated back in his past.

22:44Take me through how your husband's past relationship still to this day affects what people are saying about you and to you on the internet. Well I think like one of the things that we already just covered is that like the timeline of things and like a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from like oh you stole him and I guess maybe that just comes from like the fact that they wished that like he had ended up with someone else and that's fine like you can wish that all you want but that's just not the case in December of 2020 a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram live with nasty messages announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex and just like fully harassing you on your live what do you remember feeling on that Instagram live when you saw those comments start popping up?

23:40I don't well I think there's like a certain like almost like numbness that you get where you just like you just know what's gonna happen it still happens to this day this is you're talking about something that was two years ago now almost three and it's something that's if I was to go live on Instagram right now it would still be happening probably less which is nice but you just reach a point where you're just like you have to just like ignore it and be like okay and didn't justin came publicly to your defense and like said something well because i know that for him that's hurtful because if we have moved on why can't you like that's kind of just the whole thought process of like it's just hurtful it's hurtful it's bullying it brings me back to the rob pattinson and Kristen Stewart the Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth their first love right and people are obsessed I feel like with this concept of like your first relationship somehow it's being pushed onto you as like get the fuck out of the way like let them get back and you're like if I wasn't even here they're that's not gonna happen so like let us just live our lives and now you go find your partner and you be happy but it's it's hard I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist with a therapist before because I'm just like I hate comparison the whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship is being compared to something else or I'm being compared to another woman and you know get the fuck out of the way type of a thing so where I'm at and the position I'm in it's not it's it's not for everybody but everybody has a purpose but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this or I'm I'm I could have nothing figured out right now if in an alternate situation in an alternate life and I think Hilly he was America's bad boy sweetheart and so I think there's ownership people and fans feel there is there totally is and there's also this like why is it you there's so much of that that I feel like why why you though like and I'm like I don't know right like I just fell in love he fell in love we fell in love and like it it I think there was times where like I'd be I can confidently say I don't think we knew it was gonna be each other several times so like I can't say that yes at 18 years old I knew 100 % that that was my husband I don't fucking I didn't fucking know you almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him it would have nobody would have this is the thing if it was any if it was another person it's like because so many people have adored him for so long nobody in their mind would have ever been like the person and here's the thing too is like we're talking about a lot of like the negative side of it there's also so many people who have made me feel so embraced and so encouraged and so loved and obviously it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound um you know there it just there I want to like give credit also to the people who have like supported and been so kind and like so amazing and so great I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the internet for almost four years now like that's a fact and it's but I do think it has changed okay I will give credit to say that I do think that four years ago three years ago two and a half years ago because of how intense it was it made me just very like closed off and like not want to share anything really of myself on the internet I didn't really want to be open.

27:30I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like, I can't like, I, I'm, it's like, it's like being like traumatized kind of like you're too scared to like speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing. and then you start to become I had I had moments where I felt like I was becoming very like not like like a robot but like I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very agreeable and can't say the wrong thing and like and it just starts to become this very like weird way of feeling where you feel like you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself and then And that was where it came in with like wanting to do YouTube and trying to have a space within this age of the internet and this age of social media where I can say, this is who I actually am.

28:24Take it or leave it, like me or not. This is who I am. And I felt like actually taking the step to, even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me taking the step of being like I'm proud of who I am and this is my personality and like this is gonna sound probably so corny but like to me I've always felt like I was just like a girl from fucking New York oh my god this is gonna sound so cringe I grew up to me I felt like very normal and like I am from a small town called Nyack that is like a suburb of New York City and I woke up every day and like I was homeschooled and like did ballet and like to me I feel like I've remained that same person of course life has changed drastically but like at the core I feel like I am proud of who I am at the at the core like I know I've always been that same person and I feel very rooted and grounded and I grew up very grounded and rooted And of course, I came from a famous family.

29:29Everybody, you know, that's the reality of my life. Can't change that either. And I just feel like, again, people didn't really like know me and know my story and know the kind of person I was like. People don't know what kind of friend I am. They don't know what kind of daughter I am. They don't know what kind of sister I am like. But I know.

30:07you are starting to share more and even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you're like leave me alone just leave me alone I was like half joking but I was being half serious like it was supposed to be something that was like light and funny but I was also being serious because I like woke up one day and I was like I can't believe we're still doing this because what you like read a comment yeah like I was I which again like I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the internet is a toxic hole and like comments are a toxic hole but I was just like curious about something and then I'm like reading I'm like are we still talking about this like we're getting to this has been four it's been years now like four years we've been together like come on let it go let's all evolve together let's hold hands and and really like okay we're done like that's how I wanted to that's how I felt in that moment I was like are we serious that this is what we're still doing like we're still gonna harass me about this this shit there is so much that I could have said there was so much that I at times was like this close to saying and I just felt like

31:33there's so there's so many things that were happening where it's also like there's a time and a place and there's also a time and a place to let other people express what they need to express and like go through their feelings and emotions and like I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something it was going to make things way worse and not be beneficial again it was going to be my word against someone else's against a bunch of other people and it would just not be beneficial and I've struggled with that for I had struggled with that for a long time like I would talk to my therapist and be like but it's it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened and then there you get into a cycle of like again feeling the need to explain yourself and for me it's not even about explaining myself it's about people knowing the truth because there's a truth there is actually the truth of something that happened and there's the truth of what didn't happen.

32:38So I think for me, when people, you know, make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth. Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing? Like, is that what really bothers you? I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that like just wasn't true. And that's also just the internet making up their stories and like taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside and there and by the way it's not even it's so many different things the internet can make up they can literally sit here and say that I threw up on you but that's not okay and you can sit there and say Haley threw up on me it was really crazy and then I would read that on TMZ and I'd be like that did not happen do you know what I'm saying there's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like hello can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021 oh and people were screaming so yes I could hear everyone screaming and again I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just like I was like really surprised I could kind of hear but I didn't know if that's what was really going on until I saw the video after the whole thing of everybody being like oh he's trying to tell her not to cry um that was not true it wasn't making me cry um although it's a very disrespectful thing to do towards anybody I felt like I had something in my eye that was see that's just what goes to show you how out of context things can be seen when he's like trying to help me I'm like I feel like there's something in my eye do you see something in my eye and I'm going like this and he's like no no no you're good and as this is happening everyone's chanting I don't Was it their, was it, I don't even know if it was their relationship name or just her name.

34:34I think probably both. So then you take the sunglasses. Yeah. And everyone thought you were. The sunglasses were just part of my look. They were just part of my look. I knew I was going to wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without. But yeah, I did hear people yelling. It wasn't making me almost cry. um I think seeing the video back after made me like damn like that sucks that that's the energy people are like putting out into like that you would even spend your time camping out standing outside and doing that I just felt like it was it was disrespectful to me to my relationship it just was period the end but I think I've endured so much disrespect and I still do to this day that there was like a part of me that was just like another day another negative slay it's like so depressing I know that I know see that's like a very public example I feel like of you having to go through that is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you for you and Justin whatever and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past?

35:51They've never ruined anything for me. They've never, they've never, they're not ruining my life. They're not ruining my happiness. And that I think is really the win of the whole thing. You're actually not taking anything away from me. So that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me. You cannot take away my happiness my relationship um my business my career like you just you can't you can try and you can be mad about it but it doesn't change anything is my point Haley what do you think the internet wants you to do I don't know I legit don't know like if you're trying to get under it like I'm like sometimes I joke right I'm like would they be happy if I like just moved away and like locked myself in a house and just like I don't know I don't know I don't know what the goal is that's what's so funny is I'm just like I don't try to understand like what is the goal I think I would say it's a lot of the time it's a 10 I think it's a tension I think a lot of people sometimes they do things and they say things in hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise and I've seen it happen with a lot of other people too like you're ugly and then like you respond and you're like I wish you the best like I'm sorry you feel that way and they're like oh my god queen I'm sorry I actually love you I was just being silly you're like that was that wasn't funny that wasn't funny at all calling me ugly like I guess it is kind of funny because look at you so fuck off no it's just like what was your point so then the point is like they get the attention that they thought I think a lot of people think you'll not respond and I've had that happen before too I didn't think you would see it I'm sorry and I'm like so why are you saying it are you just bored like I don't know can you try to explain what does it feel like to have millions of people against your relationship like what does that feel like on a day-to-day basis to you I guess the biggest thing is like I think it's sad I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness.

38:01I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable? And then that means that I'm living for other people and that means that I'm being a people pleaser which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me. It does bother me when people just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen like it makes me sad but I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of like there is no way that you exist as a person especially not as a person with a platform or in the public eye where everybody loves you and that's even in life in general even if I was just in a normal situation not everybody's gonna like you I'm just existing in front of a lot of people so it's very easy to make up your like make decisions about how you feel about someone especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing and their social media and there's photos and there's just like life so I don't know I think that sometimes it feels really heavy what has been your lowest moment since all of this began on when things can get really dark and you can start having thoughts of like it not being worth it anymore or not wanting to be here anymore which I have had before in the past and um coming out of that I think it's really important a support system is like the most important thing for sure maybe if you could talk about like the shame of having those feelings because I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're you're you're really alone with them and how to even like comprehend them is a is a process in itself sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because then you just throw yourself back into like a vicious cycle I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to go to someone who is going to feel safe for you and support you in those thoughts not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy there's also this like kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate so like it's almost like my my dialogue in my head feels like get the fuck over it like you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are that are really struggling and you're not like that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like get over it like you're fine that kind of a thing and I've had to really try to be more gentle with myself and like allow myself I'm somebody who like I hate crying in front of people I don't do it like just don't like it and it's been since I was a little kid and I've never understood I mean I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff but I'm like why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries and it's such a vulnerable thing but I'm like it feels so awkward and like cringe to me to cry in front of people and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me so like I have when I say I'm like shy and stuff like I have been guarded emotionally in ways since I was like a little girl so I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the tendencies we have since childhood like what are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have like brought me to the place of feeling like I have to have the self-dialogue of like you don't get to feel that way get the fuck over it people are way worse off than you which is also like true there are people who are going through a lot different struggles and different things but it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel and I'm still working on that and I'm 100 sure that I will be forever working on that in December going into the new year I went to this place that was a like therapy intensive I was there for seven days no phone literally therapy like hours and hours a day and that was something that we spoke about about like tiptoeing around the way I feel or like not sticking up for myself because again it kind of boils back to like I've never enjoyed confrontation and I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel but she as far as I can remember she never liked confrontation and she I feel like didn't stick it up for herself and at times still to this day doesn't say what she wants and is like I don't want to do this I want to do that like she is a very just gentle kind of reserved pulled back woman and there's so much about her that I like super respect but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just she was just very um non-confrontational and there was a lot we didn't talk about there were subjects we danced around and as I've as I've gotten older and had open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about it made me understand why she might be like that but it's a it's a pattern and it's like a learned behavior I think a little bit that I am trying to move past and work past to close out kind of the chapter of what everything we were discussing what would you say to her fans like just coming from your heart they're all sitting listening to you having an open mind let's pretend they had it what would you say to her fans I think I would say the first thing I would say is you're not obligated to like me but I believe that no matter what there can always be mutual respect between people and to me that means just you don't have to say anything you don't have to like me but you don't have to say anything either because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face and so do you and so does Alex and so does every single person in this room so you just yeah I think just mutual like respect and decency and and know that what you say can have impact and know that yeah I guess that's what I would say god I think I would have been a little nastier but I love it from you Haley I mean what I want to say would be no I'm just kidding no like that I always made the joke of like I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being like you know what I get it like I respect her for that I think we will always have more in common than we don't that's like where everything comes from for me so when I see people being nasty and like attacking me I'm like we probably like a lot of the same things one of my last questions on this topic because I'm just trying to get all of it just like let's wrap it in a bow yeah so you never have to talk about this again you're like yeah I wish I know I literally never will no I'm like sweating at any point did Justin or any literally anyone ever ask his ex to help put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through no what I will say is that she has been in this industry much longer than I have and maybe there's something that she knows about like it wouldn't fix anything I think like a nice little heart on your tiktok could end it all the thing is too is like i think that like all everyone is just trying to like create separation even though there's clearly like not always separation i have no expectation i would never expect someone to do that for me like she doesn't owe me anything i don't owe neither of us owe anybody anything except like respect I respect her a lot and I think that like there's just no expectations if that was something that she felt was necessary then that would be amazing but I I just yeah I respect her there's no drama personally have you guys ever spoken yes and then like recently no I don't guess not recently but like after your marriage yes so that's why I'm like it's all respect it's all love that's also why I feel like well if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect then like right that's fine as long as you know you're good that's really all that matters which had brought me a lot of peace and I'm like hey we know what happened it is what it is you're never going to be able to like correct every narrative and there's going to be new ones that come it's never going to end and that's why I get to the point where I'm like that's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff because I'm like there'll be something new there'll probably be something new from this interview of course then I'm just like you don't want to know what's going to come from this interview to hailey bieber talking about sex great

48:23hailey bieber yes welcome to call her daddy you're like we've been sitting here for an hour she's like we're starting over we're scrapping the whole thing no i need to give the fans what they want right we need to just give them a little a little taste right walk me through walk me through step by step your sex with justin bieber oh my god i was gonna try to do it so like so straight face like this girl's a fucking psycho no i was wondering did anyone ever ask you about your sex life no actually we're the first ones over here I don't are you a morning sex or night sex people more so night me too but I do like morning too it's so funny because I talk about this stuff and the reason I get weird about talking about it is because I'm like I my parents are gonna listen to this there's something that feels so cringe no about your parents hopefully they don't make it this far your your parents are probably really progressive and like true hailey but i grew up fully catholic okay so my parents like really it took call her daddy really like i went from zero to like oh my god what is she doing yeah but they get over it this will see this is your introduction to like guys i also have this theory that people like don't care about married people sex i'm sorry you two are the hottest people in the world i feel like i'm like i don't think anybody cares oh i care okay so you're night sex people we love that okay this is so graphic but I'm saying the words okay for the rest of your life you have to pick one of the two okay from Mr.

49:58Bieber are you going to be fingered or eaten out for the rest of your life you can only take one that's very hard because I feel like it's always a combination has anyone ever tried to have a threesome with you like in our relationship no would you be down no it's funny because I feel like those ideas can be really fun and like sound really exciting I think at the at the point that of inside of our it doesn't work for the two of us we personally like that wouldn't work for this because because I think sometimes for some people it it does so I've so I've heard some people are in like open relationships and like it works for a time but I feel like in the end it always doesn't end up working so I think the second you make the decision to do that there is never going back from that and I just don't know that I would ever be willing to like we've worked very hard we worked very hard to like be in the space that we're in now and like trusting each other and there's like such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with or him for that matter can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond um he's really honest like brutally honest overly honest I could ask him about any person any past girl anything and he'd be like oh yeah like this this this and this like he doesn't have a problem being explicit and I think that made me trust him a lot because I'm like there's nothing I don't know because you can tell when someone's being shady and then if they dance around or like he's had people like dm him he'll be like oh like show me the dms like do and he'll like be like do you think that like this person's trying to be nice or you think this is weird and i'm like i think it's weird no it's like he knows he's just saying like yeah do you think like this person is like genuine because it'll come across like super friendly and i'm just like there's just no reason there's no reason you need to have a relationship yeah yeah but i'm also someone where like i really encourage female friendships because i think that you have to be able to have like healthy opposite sex relationships that are friendships um or else you're like closing yourself off all the time and it's like but you're not like having instagram models like walk around your house no of course i'm just saying like of course there's boundaries with everything but totally i'm just saying like don't be afraid to have girlfriends totally right because it's like if you can't it's like oh my god like if i could it'd be like if i couldn't have friends that were guys I think you control what the limitations are in any relationship and any friendship and any work relationship like you can have self-restraint and yeah yeah yeah for sure do you have people still in your dms no you're like I am just I am just a married woman I don't have people hitting me up like I'll slide in my dms got you okay do you and Justin have the same favorite positions i think so it's not like i'm like i strictly like this one thing and he strictly likes another thing can you give us like one or two or five it's always different okay yeah it's always something different you're you're moving it around yeah well no i mean like one day it might be one thing one day it might be another oh i actually didn't even mean that too i was like you're doing 10 positions in one night she's like he's flipping you upside down one second you guys have like you guys are not set on one position like you guys have a couple go-to no no no no I don't with my boyfriend I have now like our go-to like three I feel like every couple has those like go-to's yeah do you want to give us one and it can't be missionary it's definitely not missionary I really like doggy style you heard it here that was beautiful Haley what is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on?

54:02You know, it can be so many different things. It can be like a connection thing. It can be a physical thing for me. Kissing is a big deal. Like that's a, that's a big thing for me. It always has been just like in my life before I was married. So I would say that is probably the most. What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on or what's his thing that he always says like oh god like hilly like he like gets him going the connection point is very important to him of like we could literally just be like laying down talking before and like just having like a really fun conversation and like that is really important for him yeah okay i'm gonna tell you something that i think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting yes voting is hot yes voting is so sexy yeah it's so sexy justin can't vote here but oh well he'll be he'll be supportive of us both voting okay he's very and there are so many people that listen to this show and this airs in september we have a huge election in november and i just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there.

55:20So why is voting in this year's election important to you, Haley? It's important to me because I think as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country. We as women are living through a very terrifying reality right now. And I think what we've learned, And what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v. Wade was the people that we elect in our states, in our cities, in our counties, they are so important. And that was something that I was like, shit, like, this is really the reality. We got to get on it. I felt very passionate the last election about just please get him out of there like that was like it felt like legit like life or death and it and it was in so many ways and I still feel that even even more now because you've seen there's still so many terrible scary things happening within our country but I do think there's a chance for like change and I always think there's an opportunity for change and there's an opportunity to come together and stand up and make a difference you've been open about the fact that people in your family have different political views than you and I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today and I think so many people can relate to that how did you navigate that because it can get heated yeah it was tricky especially very personally like my my dad my parents it just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it which I think is okay I believe what I believe I am a fully formed woman now 25 turning 26 I know what I believe in and what I don't I know what I stand for and what I don't and obviously it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you and have such a different perception that sounds crazy and you're just like how did I come from you then I just don't get this but it would it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and argumentative back and forth that it's just like it just can't be talked about you're not gonna change people and it's funny because me and my sister have the same exact point of view which is like nice because at least I'm like at least I got you like and then my mom like I'll try to talk to her about something she's like I'm from Brazil so I'm like okay my mom's from Brazil by the way oh my god no I I appreciate that I think it's always good to just one normalize people are gonna have different views but I do think regardless like just get out and vote because it is so important this year specifically for sure And it's not something that I even, you know, the last election, I was super vocal about it.

58:25I plan to do that every single time. It's something that I'm passionate about for sure. So I appreciate you bringing it up. Haley Bieber, thank you so much for coming on Caller Daddy. I really appreciate you opening up. You don't do a lot of long form interviews. So I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down. Of course. Thank you. I think I had an expectation where I know coming on here with you, you're going to go there. that's just the reality of the situation I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it is my life so I should be able to like say what I want about it you go there in certain contexts where it's like I've not gone before and I think that that's like a personal challenge to myself that I want I wanted to like push myself to like you know it's okay to be like I was uncomfortable multiple times in this conference my feet are inside of the couch because I was like how many like protective body positions did I get into I folded like a pretzel

59:43what happens in New York Haley to be honest I I really was always a very level-headed young person, but I definitely had my moment where like, I went to New York, I started going out to the club. Like, that's just what happens when, I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You move to New York, you're going to the club. But I got introduced to like nightlife and going out and drinking and, you know, I definitely had my moments of that. That was like my time, probably like 18 to, I swear by the time I turned 21 I was like I'm over drinking do you remember the first time you got drunk was a disaster yes the first time I got drunk I was like oh my god this is so funny I was 16 yeah I think I was 16 and I used to be a dancer like I I said before um and I think we had like a recital and one of my friends who I danced with she had like the best house for like sleepovers because she had like the dope basement so we would go in the basement shut the door the parents would never come down so we would take like all the alcohol and uh just get drunk in the basement the two of you no it was like multiple girls like all the girls from the our dance school um and the first time I like really remember getting drunk I didn't throw up which is like surprising that one time I didn't throw up thrown up multiple times from drinking but that one time I remember like crawling on the floor because I like could not walk like could not stand up straight and I was just mixing everything because I didn't know what to drink so I can never if you made me smell Ciroc birthday cake vodka right now or like Svedka birthday cake pinnacle pinnacle pinnacle and you would just bomb if you made me smell that right now i would proceed to fall into a dark hole like i would trigger me that i feel like that was what we were drinking and then like mixing it with like a beer and like a mike's heart and like all this crazy like the fact that i didn't throw up is a miracle but i remember waking up the next day i was so hung over and um i called my cousin who was uh like staying with us at the time who i was really close to I am really close to and I was like hey she was older than me I was like can you pick me up from her house I don't want my mom to like pick me up because I had moments with my mom where I'd like go to a party or something and I would have had like a couple sips of a drink and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath so I'm like I can't have my mom pick me up right now like she's gonna know and my friends asked me to take all the empties and find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them so my cousin comes to get me I take all the bags of empties we pull over into an olive garden parking lot and find a dumpster throw it in the dumpster and I'm like sitting in the car with her and I was like I need you to take me to church like I have to go to youth group that was like where I thought I needed to be because I felt so what I just felt bad I felt like I did something so wrong like I got like wasted and I'm hung over I just felt like hell so I was like I need I need God I need Jesus like I need to go and that's like legit how I felt I was like I gotta go to like church and then I remember I went to like youth group and I was so hung over at the youth group that I was like oh my god I gotta go home like I can't be here right now but that was like what my instinct was like I gotta go I gotta go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement it's a classic classic I feel like you are the sweetest angel and then that's what's so funny about like me moving into new york city it would be like friday night i was like in up and down taking shots and then i was like going to church on study which i think is like so fine i don't see like a problem with that it's just the juxtaposition is really funny the fact that you just referenced up and down in new york i think i've had the most disgusting disgusting ratchet amazing awful nights of my life yeah in up and down like 100 your life but also like great night many many a traumatizing moment absolutely great moment in up and down i had a couple awful nights at marquee but like up and down specifically you're like god bless thank you oh marquee what was the one on the roof phd oh phd hilly you're like a normal human going to the ratchet spots i'm obsessed from i lived that was where i was from i lived there do you and justin like go out and have fun still are you able to do that okay we went out last night um to delilah oh which was fun there you go um yeah i think definitely both of us do not turn up the way we used to just simply because it's never worth the way you feel absolutely not i feel like now i get hung over by accident like i wasn't trying to it was just like that last glass of wine you shouldn't have done it i it's hard for me when i was 18 to 20 I felt like I was drinking four times my body weight and was fine.

1:04:48A full like water bottle of vodka would be in my system. I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night. I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg and cheese and a blue Gatorade and I'm fine. Haley, did you like rip that for me? Because that is my order. Please and thank you. In New York, you go to a fucking bodega. I had to either get a bagel and a blue Gatorade. It had to be blue Gatorade though. Blue Gatorade, always. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only. Bacon, egg and cheese on a croissant, blue Gatorade. You're back. you're fine thriving never been better