Heather McMahan: Blow jobs, hall passes, & frat daddies

2 Oct 2024 · 1 h 15 min

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Call Her Daddy: Heather McMahan - Blow Jobs, Hall Passes, & Frat Daddies

Episode Summary In this episode of "Call Her Daddy," host Alex Cooper welcomes comedian Heather McMahan for an unfiltered and hilarious discussion. The conversation dives into a variety of topics, including blow job techniques, the concept of hall passes in relationships, the experience of being a golf widow, and what millennial trends are worth advocating for. Their candid banter, filled with humor and relatable anecdotes, keeps listeners engaged while exploring personal and societal themes.

Key Topics Discussed

Introduction and Initial Connection

  • Alex and Heather's Meeting: They recount their initial virtual meeting during Alex's live show in Paris, highlighting their immediate chemistry and mutual admiration.
  • Coffee and Dog Stories: Heather shares a humorous story about her night filled with dog-related chaos, setting a lighthearted tone for the episode.

Relationships and Marriage

  • Comparative Husbands: The discussion transitions to their husbands, with both women humorously noting how their partners handle household responsibilities.
  • Golf Widows: Heather discusses the struggle of being a "golf widow," emphasizing the time and attention golf consumes from their husbands.
  • Hall Passes: The conversation shifts to the concept of hall passes, with Heather revealing her husband’s hall pass is Kate Upton, leading to a funny recounting of a cocktail encounter with the couple.

Anxiety and Mental Health

  • Heather's Anxiety: Heather opens up about her recent struggles with anxiety, tying it to the pressures that come with success.
  • Relatable Moments: Both women emphasize the importance of mental health and how common anxiety has become, especially in the public eye.

The Comedy Scene

  • Heather's Stand-Up: They discuss Heather's stand-up special, "Breadwinner," touching on the freedom of self-production in comedy.
  • Women in Comedy: They celebrate the power of female comedians in the industry and the unique perspectives they bring.

Millennial Trends and Observations

  • Fashion and Identity: The episode explores various millennial fashion trends, such as side parts and skinny jeans, with Heather expressing a desire to bring back certain styles, while also critiquing others.
  • Cultural Commentary: Heather humorously critiques the current state of social media and the absurdities of modern trends, reflecting on how they shape identity and culture.

Personal Anecdotes and Humor

  • Blow Job Techniques: Heather provides a comedic and candid take on the realities of oral sex in relationships, including the multitasking thoughts that occur during the act.
  • Family Dynamics: Heather shares stories about living with her husband and mother, creating relatable laughs about familial relationships and dynamics.

Key Takeaways

  • Candid Conversations: The episode showcases the importance of honest discussions about relationships and mental health among women.
  • Empowerment through Humor: Heather uses humor to tackle potentially uncomfortable topics, illustrating how laughter can be a coping mechanism.
  • Community and Connection: The bond between Alex and Heather exemplifies how shared experiences can foster strong connections, both personally and professionally.

Conclusion The episode wraps up on a positive note, with both Alex and Heather celebrating each other's accomplishments and the journey of navigating life as women in the entertainment industry. Their dynamic serves as an encouraging reminder of the camaraderie that exists among female comedians.

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0:19What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Heather McMahon, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi, honey. How are you? I am obsessed with you. Just for context to everyone that doesn't know, we met virtually while I was in Paris. Yes. You popped onto my live show. I had the best time with you. It was so much fun, and it was like 6 a.m. at home, and your team was like, hey, do you have a couple wigs that you could just throw on real quick? And I'm like, yeah, sure. Let me just go down to my office and get my wigs. Yeah, it was fun. pulled out all the stops but i'm more heather like how the fuck have we never met before i know i feel like this is now a kismet moment right we've been circling in this what we've been like on the you know we've been circling around on the outskirts we were circling the drain and now we're just fully going to the gutter you're close with jackie schimmel yes jackie's like my best friend and every time i feel like she's ever i've ever heard her talk about you she's like she's the funniest person i've ever met and i'm like well at first i thought jackie was the funniest person I've ever met and love you Jackie.

1:16I'm absolutely way more hysterical. You're funnier. I watched your stand up which we're gonna get to. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. You're so sweet. Thank you. No like I was doing my makeup this morning watching it laughing like hysterically. I like that. It's fucking brilliant. If you like that's the response I love when people like hey I think I got a UTI after watching your special. I'm like I fucking did my job. It's how I felt. Also I just want to let you know that I'm on like Too many cups of coffee right now Because last night I didn't sleep For a fucking minute because My dog has explosive Diarrhea Oh I've been there honey I have two French bulldogs It is a dry heat It is a every morning I wake up And I bought like expensive sheets that's one of the things I did When I started making money to treat myself There is my thread count is so fucked There is a Frenchie barf every single Night in the middle of the night I feel like you would prefer a barf over diarrhea Rhea?

2:11Honestly, at this point, it's all starting to look and smell the same. So it's not great either way it comes out. No, Heather, I literally was like, so I'm watching TV last night. My husband falls asleep early. It's like 1130. I'm watching like The Perfect Couple with Nicole Kidman. Oh, which is, I've got feelings. Yeah, yeah. I have feelings too. But you know, there's nothing to watch. So I'm like trying to enjoy myself. Matt's like, I can't watch this trash. I'm like, shut the fuck up, then go to bed. Right. I hear the little noise. And I'm like, hear from the stomach like the gurgle that wet gurgle that's the word it's more of a little bit of like like some farts yeah yeah some bubbles like oh my god why am i being demure being like did your dog fart like it was more of like a splatter oh like a like a big splatter people hate when i talk about shit on this show but i don't give a shit okay shit if you're in your 30s and you haven't shit yourself at a costco in the last six months then you actually need to see a doctor get your life right right like fuck off okay so he's splattering yeah and I wake my husband up and I'm like Matt Bruce just shit all over the carpet right and Matt is like okay you want me to do go clean it up now I have never cleaned their shit ever if it's like in the house Matt is the best and I want to talk to you about Jeff your husband today we'll get into that yeah let's talk about Jeff yeah yeah we're gonna talk about our husbands because I look at Matt like mortified Matt never makes me really do much around the house.

3:32He's kind of like the house man. You know, Ellen, we're the breadwinners. Yes. Well, Matt's also doing fine, but whatever. Yeah. So he won't get up and I am on my hands and knees and I am doing the Clorox. I'm doing it all. An hour later, he shits again. And two hours later, he shits again. So I, you are seeing a woman who is broken today. I'm seeing a woman who has literally had herself elbows deep and golden doodle doo doo. so I'm here for support I actually have been having like the worst anxiety the last two days just there's so much shit going on and this is what I've been looking forward to most it's just like I wear 65 different hats and literally I was at dinner last night trying to enjoy a nice you know porcini risotto and I literally was like kind of like you know geeking out because it's just do you get short circuiting I thought I had a stroke at dinner and I was like is it the Aperol Spritz do I need a beta blocker do I need a Laura Tab like what A little bit of both.

4:27A little bit of both. I just took a Benadryl and I just let it fly. Do you get anxiety a lot? I never really had bad anxiety until my life started getting good, which is weird. Like, wait, what? I think it's a pressure thing. I think you just, like, and I travel so much. I think I don't know, like, what time zone I'm in ever. Yeah, it was like when life was tough, I was just cruising. When life got, like, things started to, you know, start flowing, I think that's when I started to get anxious. Why? Because you think it's like there's more to lose? It was like when you're on the up and up, you're like, I have nothing.

4:58I am worth nothing. I'm a loser. When I was rock bottom, I was like, fuck it. Pussy pop it. Let's ride. And now I'm just like, oh, people are relying on me. There are comments on the internet. I don't know. We're good. This is a safe space. The daddy gang is going to fucking love you. And you're funny as fuck. And so you're funnier than probably everyone that I've had sit in this chair. So just do your fucking thing. Also, I know everyone calls you daddy and father, but my dad is dead. Can I just call you dad? Because I'm looking for a father figure in my life. Call me dad. I'm here for you. I've had a lot of girls reach out being like I had a deadbeat dad like you're my dad you're my father figure whatever way I can fit in fatherly to your life I'm here for you Heather I'm so sorry about your dad but it happens but I'm here okay great

5:57okay we need to talk about golf because it consumes my life Heather and I know a huge part of your stand-up is you talking about your fucking husband golfing and the fucking golf it is like every woman understands it the golf widow thing is so fucking real talk to me about like where you're at in your golf journey have you seen him lately has he been on the golf course often like what's happening I was you know getting full glam this morning running around taking calls answering emails and my husband's buddy put us in a group chat and sent me a photo my husband's playing some prestigious course in the middle of nowhere like rock you know upstate new york and it's just like look at you know look at big daddy swing and i respond i'm fucking working go home take care of our frenchy children get the fuck out of here you're like i don't give a fuck i don't give a fuck if he's you know letting it rip i need oh you're stuck in a sand trap not my problem it's so crazy Matt is having like the biggest existential crisis because his country club even that word it does make me kind of like clench my butthole a little bit he's our country club and you know I say your country club he's like it's ours Alex like you're my wife now like you're a member I'm like I'm never going I don't know maybe I will like but he is freaking out because it's getting closed for like some construction just the course oh and so he's trying to get it get it in get it in let's go we got to go play I'm like oh my god you're never home.

7:18I have one stipulation. So we at our country club, and I actually think you would thrive as a country club girly. I don't think people give country clubs. Yes, there are archaic practices there, but I love going to my country club. It's the one I grew up at, the one my grandparents were members of. I hang out with a pack of like 75 year old women. They play bridge. We drink white wine and nobody gives me shit. You know what I mean? But I did say there is a stipulation like in our prenup because I am actually the actual member of the country club because I was a legacy. so my thing is if like we ever divorce like i get the club membership and if you don't think i'm going into the men's locker room and ripping jeff's plaque off of his locker you must not know me oh my god you're gonna be married forever even if you hate him he's never leaving you and i do have a great husband so shout out to jeff we won't shit on you this whole episode but i do when i'm there he got mad one day because they didn't know like under our membership you know they always refer to him as mr mcmahon okay and he got upset one day he was like you know it's just like they don't know I said then Jeff correct them let them know that you were Mr.

8:15Daniels because I didn't take my husband's last name okay I'm in entertainment I didn't want to do it it's fine our kids will be Daniels live your life and I was like imagine what every woman feels like you know what I mean if I check into a hotel and they refer to me as Miss Daniels I go gladly right like don't let that like bruise your ego right no and pump the brakes buddy you got a tea time to make it is so fucking true they get like I I will be sitting in the hotel and Matt will hear like hi Mr. Cooper and he's like yeah and I'm like it's okay Matt stand up for yourself or shut the fuck up like I have and I will continue to have to do for the x amount of years that people will say like hi Mrs.

8:50Kaplan and I'm Mrs. Cooper and I'm like I don't care I don't care because it's not emasculating me my vagina's set and fine like fuck off let's talk about the golf aesthetic oh yeah let's talk about it um the golf outfits look pretty bad for women yeah it's it's pretty farty it's it's rough it's a like a pleated shino short that tucks right underneath where your bra at is it's it's absolutely awful I'm trying to fix it so give me a little time no it's but I'm trying to fix it how do you feel when Jeff saunters down in the morning wearing his golf outfit like are you okay with the male golf outfits or are you like okay so the way I feel about it is you know I say this in the special but like any man who wears a visor that's an immediate my vagina just shrivels up because here's the thing first of all it looks like you can't afford the whole hat you know what I mean I don't know what these men in visors and then my husband will drive home from like the golf course you know sunroof is open he's had a good match he's singing you know Natasha Beddingfield feel the rain on my skin and his like hair is like flipped over the visor so he comes in sweaties and a Peter Millar shirt grass on his she knows and I just go I'm not trying to have sex with you right now why do they come back horny after golf no because they feel empowered because they went out and won five dollars on the golf course and then they're like let's fucking do it so i was thinking about that in your special because i'm like okay they come home and matt does the same thing like matt is successful like he does great business he will come home be like i want 50 bucks and i'm literally like he's like you're ready to blow me and you're like no take a shower you smell like the outdoors get out of here but they're so excited about like that five dollars because they conquered something it's work is one thing but when you're out there when you're in a foursome with guys and they're you know it's all shit talking and they're like oh here goes Jeff he's got a 40 foot putt and he makes it there is nothing that gives a man a bigger boner than sinking a putt it's infuriating it is infuriating and I try and think about like like what makes me that horny and um I think it I'm really stepping up my golf game because I played growing up and now I'm like I really do I want to play because it's a great sport but I also just want to steal the joy of the you know the one thing that gives Jeff joy and he's like I love when you play with me and we have a great time we go out and it's like I mean I you know I drink wine and you know rip some old cigs and just have a blast in the outdoors but I am trying to get better to beat him because I do I need that for my ego right you're like sneaky on the competitive you're like oh I guess I'll play too Jeff meanwhile you're like getting sessions in the back you're getting full like coaching sessions I have three coaches right now I have so I have a gal on the LPGA shout out to Maria Fossey who I send videos to and she literally is like we got to tighten up the swing oh yeah i'm getting good but jeff doesn't even know so one day you're gonna come through he's gonna hear this and be like you bitch you liar okay so we don't roast our husbands this entire episode no i'm the best he puts up with my shit i was jeff is the only person who can look at me and be like sit down shut the fuck up you're being crazy and i'm like yes sir yes okay daddy yes papa yes i was gonna say give me some like talk about some of your favorite things about jeff because then we're gonna keep roasting yeah then we'll get right back to the roast um no Jeff is honestly like you know it's interesting if you ever like hang out with other couples and you can tell they're not actually buddies like Jeff is my buddy I mean yeah we fuck hard but like he is my buddy I don't want to hang out with anybody else other than him like of course I love hanging out with my friends but like we fucking giggle together and I think that's no it's what you need it's what you need because you're stuck with this person no and it's so true like I used to cringe online when I would hear people being like he's my best friend like no he is like Matt is my best friend like if you're not your friend what are you doing right right just don't like say it like that like girls being like he's my best friend and we bought our forever home together I don't just we have matching butterfly tattoos like I've got one wing he is the other like okay then you're it's absolutely headed for a divorce tone it down also Jeff is you know I mean listen I'm a comic I get up on stage I rip him a new asshole I talk about you know personal intimate things in our life and he lets me do it and not that he like gives me permission but I said early on I was like you know I need you to be cool with me talking my truth and from my point of view my perspective and he's like honey I never he is so proud of me when I'm on stage and seeing him get excited when I'm having a moment there is no ego in him he is never threatened he is like go let it rip do your fucking thing and that's what makes me horny so he's horny on the golf course I come off stage and he's like waiting in the wings He's like, you fucking crushed.

13:19I'm like, I am ready to sit on your face. I'm getting kind of horny right now. I know. We went from anxiety. I'm a little horny. I mean, I don't know. This is a wave of emotions here. No, it is. When you start talking about sex on this show, sometimes people are like, oh, I got to leave and go fuck my husband or my fiance or whoever the fuck. So enjoy. You're welcome, Jeff. You're so successful as a comedian. Have you always been funny? Like, talk to me, you as a child. Like, what was going on? Is Heather funny? Yeah. Well, I, you know, I was a fudgy kid. I was the kid who always had a quarter pound of fudge in their backpack.

13:52So yeah, I think I had to be funny. But no, I was always in theater, and I always knew I wanted to do comedy. I mean, since I was like six, I was like, I'm going to tell jokes. And the first time I did stand-up was at my junior prom, and I roasted the senior class. And that was one of those pivotal moments. I was always doing theater, and I was like, you know, think about how awkward high school is. Most awkward time of your life. Right. I must be a sociopath if I was like, I want to go up there and roast the seniors and do stand up. Like that could have been social suicide. We need to pause because, hold on.

14:26You did stand up at your prom. Uh-huh. Pause. Are you at the prom? Like also with the date? Yes, I am with a senior who invited me. So you're in a gown. I'm in a gown and no one knew. So yeah, so I pop up literally from under a table with a microphone. and I'm like, are y 'all ready to rock? It's so embarrassing. We have the video of it and it's just, it's insane. I have never heard of this. Like at a prom, there's usually like a band. No, I was the surprise entertainment. Yeah, yeah, it was insane. And so I get up and I do like 20 minutes and I remember walking off stage and thinking, oh fuck, I have to do this forever.

15:07So then I just, I kind of never stopped. Because you just knew. I knew, yeah. But like, were you confident? Like you didn't give a fuck what people were going to think about you at school? I honestly, no. And I, listen, I went to the same school from kindergarten through 12th grade. So I also wasn't trying to impress these fuckers anymore. But no, I think that like, listen, as a comic, if you don't feel like a touch cringy when you're trying out new shit, then you're not doing it right. Right? But no, I just, there was nothing, there was no other feeling in my life that I wanted to chase as much as that feeling of making people laugh.

15:40Love. And I'll tell you another, we're really going to boost Jeff now. but when I I was living in New York when I met Jeff we've been together a long time and I looked at him one day and I said listen I gotta go to LA I gotta follow this I gotta scratch that itch and he we were sitting in like a buka de beppo or some shit and he's like I love you so much and he's like follow your dreams and in that moment I was like oh fuck I'm gonna marry this guy stop yeah we were long distance for like eight years yeah what I know it's I have girls call me all the time like Heather I'm long distance it's been like three months with my boyfriend and I'm like if you're not thriving in your own zone and if that person can't handle y 'all doing your own thing then you don't need to be together okay long distance where you he stayed in New York and you went to LA yes and well I was only in LA for like four or five years but then I moved back to Atlanta after my dad passed and Jeff was finishing like a graduate program in New York we were just back and forth I mean we we just made it work never a breakup never a pause it was just always me and Jeff daddy okay because I'm gonna be real you and Jeff daddy are to find the odds because I have been the little cunt in my podcast sometimes it'd been like I don't know if like long distance is worth it I used to say that also in college mostly because I'm like enjoy your colleges it's also not worth it because right if you're in college you're you're probably cheating but you like let's be honest if you're in college right now listening to this with a long distance boyfriend you're getting cheated on yeah leave it also just say hey we're gonna break up during college and I'll see you when you're working for Goldman Sachs and you're out of here done what are we doing done yeah I think that was really my vision was like it's just too hard in college however when you are adult and you can make it long distance work it's amazing but that takes very secure people to have trust and to be okay with that long distance but like good for you guys he used to come to all my comedy shows and this is like when I was in New York and I you know performing for 10 people in an audience underneath the Brooklyn Bridge and he'd be in his little suits from his real estate job and he'd sit on the front row and people thought he was my manager so we were like wow your manager is like really dialed into your career and i'm like oh no no i blow that guy stop stop honestly that was probably kind of hot you're like so hot you're like looking at him like he's your business manager you're like oh we're not supposed to but we should let's go fuck in my car 100 i love that for you guys yeah and the jetta i only sold the jetta about three years ago kind of wish i would have kept it wait the jetta was the first car i ever wanted and then i just could never get a first car until like i started making my own money my parents were like we're never getting you a car So get a job.

18:00And I was like, oh, okay. But I always wanted a Jetta. Jetta, shout out to Volkswagen. Shout out. They're a great company. Sponsor us. Sponsor us. I would love a new Jetta. I'm really, when I sold that car, I was actually sad about it. It's a cute car. And I got a sensible. I didn't go G-Wagon. I went, you know, hybrid Audi Q5. Shout out to Audi. Sponsorship. I think I want the Cayenne because that was the best car my dad had. And I really want it. I was like, that's when I know I think I might buy it. No, that was like I realized that shit from your childhood really sticks with you. When I went to a private prep school that like I really couldn't afford, I got like a soccer scholarship for high school and I didn't have a car.

18:39And so I'm taking the bus every day and these bitches are rolling in with like Maseratis because their daddies are so fucking rich. Yeah. And I remember there was this one bitch that had this cool Porsche. It was the Cayenne. And she had it like it was a white one with like black wheels. And I was like, whenever I get my first paycheck, that's me not working at my smoothie shop job. like I'm getting the fucking Porsche and the first thing that I bought for myself for a car was the Porsche and I'm like the only reason I still got it was because I think of that girl I can't say her name. It's that core memory but it's that core memory being like fucking Michelle has it.

19:07Yes. I'm getting it. I was like and I'm like I don't even know if I actually wanted the Porsche I was literally just like living out my like high school insecurity being like I finally got it. Yeah. I'm like do I like it? I actually do. Sponsor me. Okay you went to University of Mississippi. Oh yeah. Hotty totty. Can you explain your experience in three words? Oh yeah. Okay. Unhinged. Okay. Full throttle. That's two. That's two. But who gives a fuck? Okay. Unhinged. Mayonnaise. What?

19:37And just elated. I had the best four years of my life. Shout out to the University of Mississippi. I just did a show for them last week. And I loved it. My college experience was out of this world. Wow. Yeah. Like from freshman year. From freshman year. Here's the thing. I even being from the south because I grew up in Atlanta I didn't know anything about Mississippi the reason I ended up at Ole Miss is because it was the only college that you're like actually when I got accepted I was like fuck but then you got there and you're like I thought I was gonna go to Pepperdine and do like theater arts like imagine me in Malibu no absolutely not um so I thought I was gonna go to Pepperdine it was two weeks before graduation and I didn't get in because I thought I was gonna go to their prestigious theater program Yeah.

20:20Well, here's the thing. I was student body president, but a blind cat could have done better on the SATs. I'm not a, I'm not a scholastic test taking kind of cat. Me either. On paper, it's rough. Okay. So I didn't get in and I was, I remember sitting down with like the college counselor and she's like, there's two schools that have good theater departments and they still are taking applicants. It was Alabama and Ole Miss. I swear to God, out's my hand on the Bible. I visited Alabama. I'm in Tuscaloosa. I'm at like the Sigma Chi house. I watched a man snort cocaine off a chicken tender and I said I called my daddy and I said I'm going to Ole Miss like I like to party but this is this is another world this is some next level shit so I showed up in Oxford Mississippi I didn't know anybody I did the sorority rush I had the time of my life I don't know how I got into a good sorority like all of the things it just clicked and I and I we own a home there now I bought a house in Oxford you did I go back all the time I love it hold on cocaine on a chicken finger yeah yeah it was a lot it was and you know in the south we got juicy tinders it's not like a light it's not like a like a it's not a slim tinder it's a thick boy it's a thick boy and i just remember going i don't know if i'm gonna that's some real shit no i love that your honesty is like i love old miss like it was my it's the only place i got accepted but like who cares you end up and that's i think a great note for anyone that's in high school listening god i maybe there are people that listen in high school there are you'd be surprised you guys like it really doesn't matter where the fuck you go to school.

21:43It doesn't matter and you'll find your spot. Like I remember being so devastated thinking okay I'm not going to be this like you know Shakespearean actor. What is going on? And I ended up like it's the greatest joy in my life. And also I would not have met my husband because my best friend Tina who works with me and hosts around my production company she was from New York. So this bitch flies down. We're both in the theater department. I'm like where the fuck are you from? She's like where the fuck are you from? And she's the one who introduced me to my husband. So I had to go all the way to Mississippi to find a Yankee.

22:11It's oh my god it's so meant to be. Also, you mentioned sorority life. I played soccer, so I still to this day don't fully understand sorority life. And I feel like what I'm seeing on TikTok may not be the exact representation of what it maybe used to be. Because now bitches are like synchronized dancing and stuff, which maybe it was back then. But can you walk me through? It is really wild. I get asked this a lot about what my sorority life experience is like. I do think you're right. Social media has completely changed the game. I mean, when I went to college, I hate to date myself, but it was the first year that Facebook came out.

22:42So, you know, I didn't have to worry about somebody looking at my online profile. I just showed up in a Lily Pulitzer skirt and was like, y 'all ready to fucking do this or what? I was pledge class president. I was bid day chair. I had the best time. And also like I see girls online that talk about hazing. No one haze my ass. I showed up to the Delta Gamma house at the University of Mississippi. I had a monogrammed pillow with my name on it and a new you know bottle of um like barefoot white wine I had the time of my life but also I'm 5 '10 you don't really haze you don't fuck with you large and in charge no I would stop I was gonna fucking say like I feel like what I'm watching on on TikTok right now it's like first of all the dorm situation how are they like I showed up with the Jansport backpack and I had like a duffel bag and I like threw shit in that I like bought off of eBay I don't know what you got like a bed bath and beyond i had a bed in a bag that's what you did i called my roommate who i'd never met before and i said what color scheme are we going with we did lime green hot pink and black and literally it's a bed in a bag you got you got the comforter the the one sheet you only had one set of sheets that's it there was no changing your sheet that's it and then i got i remember like when the first day of school started they had those like poster sales and i got like channing tatum on one wall of course and then i got like hot girls asses because i was like this will really like the guys will think we're cool for this exactly i'm hot if they see hot girls on my wall because that makes sense.

24:02That makes so much sense. Yeah. So I don't understand when they're like, let's do a transformation and they do the click and it goes from like a dreary dorm room to immediately. It's like, you look like you're in a fucking palace. I have a sorority sister who that's her job now. She runs, has a whole business where she redoes the Ole Miss dorm rooms. Wow. They have like antiques in the room. They're built. I mean, I had literally like three, those stacked plastic bins. that you get at like staples. I didn't even go to a container store. I went to like Office Max and I put my thongs in there and like a bottle of like bourbon that was rolling around in the back.

24:38Like nothing about my room. I had a desktop, Alex. I didn't even have a laptop. My dad ran an IT company and he was so afraid that somebody was gonna like steal my identity. And finally I called him. I was like, dad, I gotta get a laptop. Like I can't be the person lugging the desktop on a dolly all the way up to the library. Like what the fuck are we doing here? yeah i was also a theater major so i didn't really need you know computer but um still the point is is like it was it is different right now and i do believe some of the bitches on tiktok are really going above and beyond for social media like if you're someone at college right now that is literally just bringing your pb teen sheets and you got a book bag and that's all pottery barn tea oh my god that was lux that was the shit do you remember when jersey sheet like jersey sheets came out and it felt like you were rolling around on a pair of levi jeans really actually not comfortable and not sweat wicking i remember my mom is like a gift sent me the jersey pottery barn teen sheets and i was like in flames when i woke up i thought i had the flu i remember i got like these dark gray ones yeah and the first time a guy came on my sheets and i only had again one fucking pair yeah so i was just looking at that shit like damn i'm fucked and i just left it there credit card later on after the cum had dried and you were like trying to scrape it off you're like we'll just get that off at the end it's fucking disgusting anyways okay so you were rushing you got into your sorority can you like tell me like do you remember like your chance do i remember my chance i thought you would never ask so interesting enough so i went to the home chapter delta gamma was founded at the university of mississippi it was a big deal that they led a woman not from mississippi into the sorority i don't know who wrote me a wreck but they they saw my ass coming and they said she's got potential damn yeah so i um it was funny during rush so we used to do this thing called a door song okay and you might have seen it on vama tiktok now they banned it but um like so somebody comes and knocks on the door okay the door opens and like 200 girls hit the deck i was always on the bottom because i was beefy so i'd be on the bottom of this door holding up the weight of my sorority sisters on me and we'd be like d e L-T-A, Delta D-E-L-T-A, and do this whole thing.

26:47And then what would happen is everybody would get off the dog pile and run out and grab a girl who's rushing. So you're like running through the lawn being like, Emily, Emily, where are you? And you had to pretend like you didn't know who they were, but you had like had giant cards. I mean, you're studying them. And then you're like looking around like, I can't see her. And then this little girl, Emily, pops out of the bush. She's like, it's me. And then we would run them through the DG house. And of course, since I was on the bottom, I was like breathless. So by the time I got up, I was literally like, where's Emily?

27:16Emily from Jackson, Mississippi. Are you here? All your makeup is gone. You're drenched. I am so moist. It's like, it's not healthy. Your back is blown out. It's awful. You have nothing left to give. I have nothing left. And then you crowd them in this room, this chapter room. And, you know, we're like sitting at them, like breathing hot fire breath on them. Just being like, trying to get them to cry. To be like, do you want to be here? This is the greatest day of my life. I ate it up though. I had the time of my life. Oh my God. What do you think you loved about it? Cause it's a little culty.

27:49No, it is. But I really just met all my best friends there. And again, I, there was not hazing. So when I see girls that had like a really, like if they ever lined us up and like circled our fat, I would have been like, I win. I get it. Just y 'all go home. I'm the fattest one. I put on 45 pounds my freshman year. Like just y 'all go home. I, it was a lot of, I mean, we did like philanthropy work. We had raging parties. It really was not toxic. I'm sure a couple bitches, you know, I mean, we fought a couple times, but I was also kind of the black sheep. Like, I was always sent to standards because I was smoking cigarettes standing up.

28:23That was a weird rule. You know, if you want to smoke a cigarette, if you want to rip a heater, you got to sit down. Cross your legs. Wait, what? Yeah, because you got to look ladylike. Oh, my God. So you can smoke cigs, but you just have to do it looking like. You just have to sit down. So if I was standing up, I couldn't. but if I was sitting down having a cigarette, that's kosher, you know? Do you still to this day sit down or do you stand up? I only have, I hope my life insurance policy doesn't hear about this. I love a, I'm kidding, hypothetically, allegedly, I love just a cig when I'm in Italy.

28:54It's my vacation cig, but I'm not a smoker. Contrary to popular belief, people hear my voice. I'm not a smoker. You've got a great voice. But can I also say to this younger generation, I really get concerned about, I was at the college bar the other day and we had the bar in our town called The Library. Oh cool. So when my dad would see my all my charges he called me one day he's like god damn it Heather return your fucking books to the library. This is insane. Stop. He didn't know it was a bar. Oh yeah it's my favorite bar. Genius. But literally I see these kids like everybody's ripping the vape and they're all passing it around.

29:28And I turn to a young man in the bar and I go honey this is how you get mono or cold sores. I don't know what we're doing here, but y 'all all need to just have your own vape. Heather, no. No. I thought you were going to say something completely different. What do you think you were supposed to say? This is how you're going to get lung cancer. No, no, fuck them. No, no, no. I'm worried about Epstein-Barr virus. I'm not worried about their lungs, okay? Come on now. I don't have time for that. Instead of being like, you don't, you shouldn't have them, you're like, just each of you get your own. Stack up.

29:59I'm like, this is why you guys are all going to have strep throat. Get your own. Get your life together. Daddy gang, stop dueling. Stop dueling. We're done. Okay, I know you refer to yourself as the elder millennial. That's true, right? Well, yeah. I mean, I am, you know, 37. You're a young woman. Thank you. Thank you. I am young, youthful. You're very young. Thank you. I want to talk about some of the millennial trends. Okay. And I want to hear your take is, do you think we should bring them back? Or how do you feel about them in general? I'm so excited for this. Side parts. Oh, let me tell you.

30:33There is nothing more dramatic, more old Hollywood glam than a side part. I was actually in my sorority house the other day and I found my old composite photo. It was such a deep side part. It started at the base of my jaw. Okay? It was just a thick comb over. I had no eyebrows. But I think the middle part, like I'm fighting for my life right now. I have an intense cowlick. And if you knew the amount of time, effort, and Orbe dry texture spray that is holding me together. Because which way do we go? Which way does your hair usually go? It's naturally, it should go this way. So it wants to be comb over.

31:08It wants to go full Donald Trump. Yes. It really does. I love a deep side part. You know, obviously, you know, if you do the deep side part and we do the stick straight, like the cheese straightener, it's not a good look. It's really not a good look. And I feel like depending on what phase you're at in your life, like when I look back at pictures of myself as a young girl, I was objectively not, I wasn't like the cutest. Okay. Same. It really wasn't, it wasn't me. I didn't know that though. No one pulled me aside and said, let's blend a smoky eye. Let's draw in our eyebrows. Let's maybe go for a leisurely walk so we can get some steps in.

31:49I was deep deep throating like you know Hot Pockets chugging bourbon I had not a care in the world but you were happy I was I've never been happier no now I'm getting everything I want and I'm like god this fucking sucks you're like I want to go back to the good old days yeah but it's true that like when you don't have the eye for it I guess I can say when I look back at pictures of myself there is a difference between a side part and the comb over and when you do the comb over and you're not going for Hollywood glam like you're not going to an event and you're just looking for the side part it can really look busted so I think I think you're right it depends on what what you're doing with it but I would say the side part is usually a flop okay all right you know what fair enough but you also have a perfect straight line through your head so I just think that you need to be a little more inclusive to the cowlick community that's all I'm saying you want to hear something crazy what I have a fucking cowlick where yeah exactly the amount of time that I spent oh pushing pushing moving gel starts at 7 a.m bitch and it's fucking almost two o 'clock in the afternoon this it was it was sitting setting melting pressing the little clips and the clips I'll go to an event I'll be about to walk the red carpet and I'm like take the clips out remove the clips last minute always I the amount of gel and like shit that I had to get to this point and I sleep with it sometimes like that.

33:12Oh wow. Yeah I'm dedicated. Sociopath, I love it. It's the trauma from childhood where I like look back at those curvatures that I was putting over my fucking hand. It looked so fucking bad that I am straight part and I will never deter. Have you ever had side bangs? No. Well I did go through a little bit of an emo phase. I was always, yeah. But I would be at the like the Vans Warped Tour in like junior high and I would always be in like a full Hollister outfit and a puka shell necklace. I still dress like Dave Matthews band-esque, but I was at, seeing, you know, something corporate, Simple Plan, or one of those bands.

33:46Wait, stop. I feel like we would have been friends. Like, I went through such an emo phase, and I would do the colorful, like, skinny jeans with, like, a band t-shirt. I was obsessed with Simple Plan, Blink-182. Then I went into All Time Low. I had all these different, like, I was obsessed with Avril Lavigne. I wanted to be her. Oh, Avril Lavigne is, I remember being like a, you know, a chubby sixth grader, and I'd come home, and I'd put her CD, Because, you know, we had a little money. So I had this six-disc changer. And I would just literally be like, I'm fading in the sun. Yes. It's just like rage out.

34:20My mom would be like, this one. I was naturally, I would think, like happy. Like, I didn't want to be emo, but I loved the concept of being emo, if that makes sense. Yeah, we're dramatic. We're a little dramatic. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. That is annoying. Okay, how do you feel about Tall Uggs?

34:51How do you feel about tall Uggs? Oh, God. Okay. Well, here's my thing. My best feature on my body is my thin ankle. Okay. I never, I mean, look at that. Have you ever seen a nice, more developed, thinner ankle? That is a very nice ankle. It's a very nice ankle. Thank you. Because it gets thin? It's very thin. And I also have nice toe cleavage. I've been told from the toe the foot fetish community that my foot while very wide in a shoe the top of my toes is apparently very sensual really have you ever thought about making a couple bucks I have but I did see that one person left me a bad review on wiki feets and it's not my rating down to like a 3.5 I'm very upset about it you're not actually on wiki feets are you what the fuck I didn't know it was a thing and somebody at one of my shows was like hey by the way I just want you to know like your rating went down on wiki feets I was like what the fuck is wiki things dude heather i'm not kidding you i'm convinced that almost every single man in the world has a foot fetish you know here's the thing it's not hurtful no it's not hurtful it's just fascinating i would do only fans in a heartbeat if dudes want to send me money to look at my little piggies fantastic and it's just it's natural too it's natural it's either you got it or you don't no one's getting like foot implants no one's getting like really thick it's you got it or you don't and if you got it flaunt it i would like to say because you have such a huge international platform.

36:07I, you know, big Nike fan, but I've got a wide, wide girthy foot. And if you guys could send me some pairs cut in a wide, that would be fantastic. I go online and the only pair that's in an extra wide is an orthotic. So please, for the love of God, make a wide in an Air Force One. Okay, sorry. I had to take that opportunity. I could have said something to like find peace in the Middle East, but instead I'm like, can I get a custom Nike in a wide? because my toes are falling asleep. Nora, they're literally coming on here and being like, what other brand deals did I want to get out of this episode?

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36:40Yes, I'm obsessed. What are we getting? We're getting a Porsche? We're getting a Jetta. Jetta. An Audi. Audi and free shoes for life. And Orbe. And Uggs. And Uggs. Thank you. But wait, back to the Uggs. Okay, so the Uggs. Can I tell you, I'm having a lot of fun. I'm having a lot of fun with you too. Okay, back to the Uggs. So here's the thing. To be fair, sometimes it's also hard to podcast with people that, like my favorite podcasting usually is when people podcast for a living because like you know how to do it. So thank you. Thank you for showing up today. Okay, tall Uggs. Okay, tall Uggs. I don't like a sweaty calf.

37:10Okay. You know, I would wear them. I went to a Christian school so we had to wear the uniforms and in the winter that was a thing. You wore the tall Ugg. You could wear them with your uniform? Oh yeah, we could wear them. We didn't have to wear like Mary Janes or anything. I'd wear a tall Ugg with my little like Catholic school girl uniform and I just remember huffing it, you know, through the parking lot just like these are fucking hot. Wait, did you have boys at your school? We did. what the fuck Heather I went to an I went to a full co-ed um K through eight I was like in Catholic school and I had to wear the plaid skirt and I used to have to say this to like my boyfriends I'm like I know it sounds hot like I was fucking hideous and it's not a sexual fantasy okay now I'd look hot in it but back then it was like to the knee and if not they'd slap you with the fucking ruler like literally old school shit and then we had to have the thigh highs they weren't thigh highs they went to the knee and they were the big socks with the Mary Jane too and then they changed to saddle shoes at one point which was like the black and the white shoe and then we had the collared shirts that wasn't hot the whole uniform we could wear the socks but we in the winter they would allow us to wear the okay and then eventually they got pants because i think i like walked into the principal's office and said i'm fucking freezing okay and i'm a heavy set so if i'm cold imagine what these thin bitches are feeling this is unbelievable we have rights We do have rights Fuck you Fuck you Okay SoulCycle Oh well that's a little triggering You should have warned me That you were going to bring that up On such a large platform I worked at SoulCycle Okay In West Hollywood Around the corner What?

38:38When I moved to LA I needed a part time job Okay And I couldn't get a job At a restaurant Which was really weird Because I had worked At some of the best restaurants In New York I had this crazy You know Michelin star experience And I could not get a job working as a bartender even like a hostess in LA why do you think? because I wasn't a porn star that's why I wore a sensible supportive bra to work I would show up to these like interviews with this insane New York resume and they were like but are your nips hard you know I was like I can make them hard give me 10 seconds I'll be right back yeah I mean I would go and I would think that I was going for like a nice you know like an interview at Spago and they were like actually we have a nightclub and we were wondering if you want to be a promoter I'm like I'm 23 years old I should not be roaming the streets of Los Angeles trying to get people to come to your nightclub.

39:23That's annoying. So I ended up at SoulCycle. And I remember my interview. I was interviewing to be on the front desk. But I said, because I wanted to let them think that, like, I was here for the long haul. Of course. I remember saying, like, obviously I'd start with the front desk. And I understand you have to work your way up. But my goal is to eventually be an instructor. No. And the girl interviewing me was just like, yeah, we're good. Nothing about you says, like, you know, star of the fitness community. No. But I actually had a great time. SoulCycle was so fun. I met my best friends, my buddy Raymond.

39:54Shout out to Ray. He's still one of my best friends. We used to get in trouble because we would work at the front desk and be like, you know, gravely hungover. Of course. And I'd be eating like a Chipotle burrito bowl and a Diet Dr. Pepper. And finally my manager said, Heather, this is like a fitness studio. People don't, celebrities don't want to come in and work out when you're like dry heaving over a barbacoa bowl. Get your shit together. No. Yeah. I kind of love that for you You're like You know what though Like this is me And this is who I'm gonna be And I'm only at the front desk So like You can go back there And fucking work out I'm sorry Heather I've gone on one of the bikes before Yeah When I was working This ad sales job They were like Team bonding Let's go across the street And like during lunchtime Go on the fucking Soul cycle bikes It hurt Pussy throbbed Yeah it's not great It's not like a good Horseback riding Where you're like I'm getting a little turned on It's rubbing my clit In the right way Yeah This is like physical pain No this is where Your urethra Is just ripped off Like you have road rash, but it's on your pee hole.

40:49I'm getting like bruises. And then like you go to sleep that night. You can feel like your pelvis area like pulsating, not in a sexual way. But then actually once you do it two or three times, then you're in it. But see, I knew how to work the system there. I would, you know, all these big celebs would come in and I would slip my little business card that I made on like Vistaprint. Okay. I had my head shot on it and I would slide it into their like bags. And I'd be like, if you ever need an assistant, if you ever need somebody to open for you on the road, please ask me. Oh my God. So funny. I did that to Whitney Cummings and I must have given her 10 business cards she never once called me and then we're buds now and I literally was like Whitney I need you to just know that I used to drop my business card I mean this was 10 years ago you're like Whitney I was either down to be your assistant or open for you and I didn't either so fuck you but I also love you fuck you but now I'm a guest on your podcast boom but it was amazing I loved it so we love SoulCycle okay skinny jeans oh again I am pro skinny jean because I do want to flex my best asset but um I mean And God, that for me, you know, you said your crotch hurt during SoulCycle.

41:48I always had a yeast or a UTI from a skinny jean. It just was so tight right in the grundle. It can't be worse than jean shorts, though. Oh, I don't fuck with jean shorts. You don't. No, what are we doing here? No, absolutely not. I'm not fucking with a jean short. I'm pushing 40. I need to be in a jean short. Get out of here. So are you just... What are we doing here? I don't know I also do I of course I wear jean shorts you do I think I do are you lying no I is that the first time you've lied on this podcast it is can I tell you I'm in a tough spot I put on a little weight and I had all these jean shorts that I bought from Zara and I just I tried them on the other day and I was like it's a no go so I'm just very bitter about that no no no and I get it like jean shorts you have to be really like you have to be tan you need to feel good it needs to be the perfect thing or just a short dress that's flowy is always a great go to like I'm always like oh I can like relax here but jean shorts are like yeah they're kind of I'm a baby doll dress kind of gal and I know those had a moment on tiktok but I've got giant jugs and I like a little I like to just sit right here titties under my neck are they real they're real yeah oh yeah and I'll tell you what I got perfect nips for a large breast I got a really nice breast to areola ratio yeah that's my one you have so much good shit fuck you you're like let me show you my thin little ankle Well, also, perfect fucking nipple.

43:12I literally come in here and been like, I had a great sorority. My husband is fantastic. Life is great. Now, I haven't shit today, and I do have anxiety. But other than that, I'm thriving. No, but I mean, listen. Great hits. I am always, now especially, you know, being in the spotlight, I pick apart myself all the time. No, it's nice to be like, yeah, I fucking like something about myself. And you know what? They're not where they used to be. I definitely would love a lift. But they are, the areola is nice. I'm fucking jealous and I'm already picturing it. Like I'm thinking of it sexually. Your husband is lucky.

43:44Moving on. Super thin eyebrows. Oh, no. Those, they should never come back. Okay, but what's worse? The like giant. Oh, yeah. I mean, mine are looking a little big today. I mean, mine are thick too. I'd rather more than less. Really? Because you can always pull a friend aside, take them to, you know, a coffee bean and just say, hey, what are we doing? You know, this comes from love. Where we can peel it back, but you can never. But the amount of growth serum, castor oil, you know, and all the eyelash serums apparently make you go blind. And they ruin the collagen underneath the eyes. Wait, what?

44:17Oh, yeah. That's a whole thing now. Yeah. Apparently, we've been using all the lash serums. And they apparently dissolve all the fat underneath your eyes. Oh, perfect. I mean, you know, maybe I should start rubbing this all over my body. But no, thin eyebrows should never come back. That is a crime against humanity. It should be outlawed. You should have to do hard time. If you're over plucking, you need to get your life right. But then like, it's so unfair because I look at Pamela Anderson and like in my twisted mind, I'm like, God, I wish I could pull that off. No one can pull it off but her.

44:47But her. And just let her have it and move on. I really, I suffered. And I think because you said earlier, you didn't have eyebrows. I growing up had, I had the hair. I had nothing to show for the hair because like if you saw me in the right lighting, you'd see like what looked like a unibrow and it's like all just peach fuzz. I finally dyed them when I was in high school. and I had never felt better in my life. I was like, oh my God, my five head is gone. I've got the angles. It looks good. But then I just kept building on it. And I feel like I really took it to a level where I see pictures of myself in the freshman year of college.

45:22It's bad. They got too much. They were black. Yeah. We definitely over-dyed for a long time. And they were cinder blocks. I always had thick, natural, bushy brows, but I would go to the nail salon and they would just hold you down in the back. I never went to an eyebrow specialist. I'm like, I'm getting a fresh gel set and I'm getting my eyebrows done in the back. And I came out one day and the tips were gone. I mean, they ran away with them. And then, you know how long it takes to grow that shit back? Oh, you're fucked. You're fucked. So my entire college career, I had my deep side part. I'm in a pair of gaucho pants.

45:52I'm in a halter top. My, you know, perfect nipples are hanging out. I put on 45 pounds and I got no brows and I didn't blend a smoky eye. I mean, I've really come a long way. Picturing you smoking a fucking cig. With a cig and a nice, you know, Jessica Simpson wedge. Gauchos. Gauchos. Yeah. Oh, that was my time. God, they were good. Gauchos were great. And then if you wanted to hook up with somebody, I'm kind of in a gaucho now. You didn't even have to take them off. They could just slide a hand up there and just finger you, you know? And that was, that was fun. The width was impeccable. I think we should maybe bring gauchos back.

46:28I think we should. I know people are trying to do the barrel gene and I'm not into that. You know what you can't do is finger somebody in a barrel jean. You can't even get half a fist up there. I don't think. Also, who wants to finger somebody in a barrel jean? If I see a bitch coming down the street in a barrel jean, I'm like, I'm not attracted. No, it's not. It's not the look. Gals, that's what we need to. The barrel jeans are out. But don't you think that is where that's a definition of women dressing for women where they like the girls would think these are cute. I don't know. Well, as a full woman, just, you know, right now here in the bush, I say no.

47:04Don't fucking do it. Let's get rid of it. When you think out shows back, buy to the barrel. Yeah. Okay, this is controversial because I'm staring at your ankle. I'm so worried. This goes against everything that we've talked about today about this one body part that's really a highlight for you. Ankle socks, I don't know if you realize, they're currently out. What do you have? Oh, but what do you have? these are is that not an ankle no ankle socks is where you're showing your fucking ankle okay but i have a no show i thought that was a no show you have no socks i was like get out you stink i got a wide fucking foot if you think i'm letting these cheddar blocks just marinate in here i'm not trying to bake a casserole okay again nike i'd like a wide um okay wait so i thought that was a crew sock so this is whatever the fuck you want to call it but this is not an ankle sock this is that like hailey bieber yeah like princess diana yeah trendy and i did not know that i was i feel i feel attacked no the problem is this would cover your one of your best assets yeah um but i will say i i my husband one of his favorite looks is the look you have on right now he likes the bike short the oversized sweatshirt and i'll do the the you know the scrunch socks you will i will scrunch the sock because your outfit right now you wouldn't technically look at you i know now i'm like i don't i don't know what to do i like can i get like can i sit like i don't know what to do okay you look it's getting hot in here i'm so sorry i started this fucking podcast saying to you i was breathing and now it's fucking hot can someone turn on the air okay let's talk about obviously you mentioned your family went through a hard time you lost your dad and so that kind of like thanks for bringing that i'm your father sweetie yes dad r.i.p.

48:51we love you Kyle yeah we love you Kyle um you moved in with your mom yes and you moved in with Jeff with your mom and at this point you weren't married right you're engaged so okay backtrack when my dad died I was living in LA I picked up my shit I moved home okay and then I moved at some point up to New York but then when the pandemic hit Jeff and I moved from New York back to Atlanta and I'm living in my childhood home so Jeff and I are we and we haven't moved doubt like like we're we're still three's company why uh great question because I talked to my financial advisor the other day and he's like Heather you're living pretty cheaply you could you could move on I don't know why I think um I mean listen I adore my mom she's my buddy I constantly think like the thought of her sitting at home alone on a Friday night hits me in a deep way that like it just gives me like chills down my spine yeah I don't know it's not normal um my husband loves it because he gets treated like a king you know I'm the one who can I'm the one who gets yelled at we I was gonna say walk me through this so it's you your husband your mom uh-huh and it's like a normal day are you guys able to like slightly like what's the room setup like where is where like um so you would think that I'd be in like the primary bedroom I am not we just blew out a couple closets so we built like another primary my mom is still in the main bedroom oh yeah I'm in my childhood bedroom that we like blew out two closets to expand you know it's funny somebody asked me the other day they're like what's the wildest like place you've ever had sex I'm like where I currently have sex in my home with my mom down the hall who sometimes will chime in and be like Jeff I can tell from that sound she doesn't like it no no no had you ever had sex in your childhood room or like even gotten fingered or felt up or you weren't allowed to go in there oh no I was allowed to have boys in there but I also you know I don't think a lot of guys called.

50:41Ever. No, I'm cute. Come on. No, it is funny being back in my childhood home. But, you know, my husband, my mom adores him. And he just gets treated like a king. Where it is funny being back at my house because my mom, even though, like, I'm running the roost and, like, make money and pay for everything, she'll throw shit in a basket. Okay. I don't know if your parents did this growing up. Like, my mom, I'll walk in the door from being on tour. Heather, you got 14 things you need to carry. It's all in your basket. I opened all your mail. Your taxes are due tomorrow. You know you've got some money in your bank account.

51:12And I'm like, quit going through my shit. It doesn't matter that I'm an adult. She still treats me like I'm 13 years old. I kind of love it, though. Yeah. It's kind of cozy. It is so cozy. I mean, it's insane. But my mom is, you know, my mom and dad were each other's truly loves of their life. And my mom was 11 years older than my late dad. Oh. Original cougar. Oh. Yeah. So my mom, it's been wild trying to watch her date now. and she's been bamboozled on like these dating apps multiple times. It's like she thinks she's talking to an architect from New York. Of course. He's, you know, somewhere in another country and he's trying to steal all her social security number.

51:46So really, I have to live with my mom because it's Fort Knox. She's just trying to get, you know, a little dick on the side and I'm not going to have an inheritance because some guy on the other side of the world is stealing all of the funds. Oh my God. Yeah, it's bad. Oh my fucking God. And my mom's great. And she's kind of at this point, she's 76, doesn't look a day over 40. My mom's hot. Perky titties, like tiny. She's spunky. She travels. And I keep trying to, you know, I ask my audience all the time. I'm like, anybody got a rich uncle or a great dad who, my mom doesn't want to get married again.

52:18She just wants to travel. She wants to feel something with a guy. She wants to feel something. Yeah. And she's like, Heather, I'm not dead yet. I'd still like to be intimate. I said, you get up on that horse and ride, girl. That's so incredible. And I actually agree. Like the thought of a parent being alone as they're getting older makes me want to start crying. So I think you're like a lovely human being for do that. But like, are you guys caring at all? So you're not caring when you're having sex that your mom's going to hear you. No, but I do. I have much better sex when I'm on the road and I'm in a Four Seasons.

52:47And we kind of feel bad. Like the parents got away. And it is funny. We do call my mom the toddler because when we like go to dinner with her, she sits in the back seat and she watches her iPad and she's giggling to her YouTubes. And Jeff gets along with her. Jeff gets along with her. I mean, listen, he is so patient, but Jeff is, my mom's from up north and my husband's from up north, so they kind of like had their own banter. And I'm just sitting on the porch drinking an iced tea going, I do declare. Why are y 'all yelling in this house? I'm obsessed with it. I also just think like the fact is as a comedian, like it's a really good dynamic.

53:19It works. It's working. It's working. That's, I'm like, I'm not mad about it. Now, I would like a little bit more money because if I could expand, if we could upgrade, we need I would like a big chateau with like a guest house so I at least get to be in my own four walls without Robin yep barking down my throat um but you know we're putting that on the vision board something something that you talk about in your stand-up special that had me cackling well two things we have to talk about two things one is blowjobs because love them and hate them sweetie sweetie sweetie the way that you described heading downtown to the wiener yeah and seeing the wiener hole and approaching it there is a goofy ass hole down there yeah the wiener hole but it works if you like swirl your tongue in there a little oh yeah oh it's a little if you don't get in that little hole then they're not getting in yours and we all know this give a little surprise but i never try and go over the other hole you know what i mean i'm like that is you do you i'm you know i when you're married at least you know when your spouse has diarrhea it's every 30 minutes just like your sweet dog so it's like when people like oh you know you they eat and butt i'm like no jeff had you know jalapeno poppers at tgi fridays on a golf outing and he's been bitching about it all day no i don't want to lick his butthole i'm so sorry No, it's fucked when you do.

54:42Like, I have never, like, been opposed. And I know that's, like, bad of me to say. But, like, I'm in the blowjob. And it's the accessory to a blowjob moment. Yeah. But you know in between that little gooch. I mean, I'll tickle the gooch. I'm in the gooch. I'm hitting the taint. I slap it around a little bit. I take the dick and just hit me on both sides. Like, I'm doing a little, you know, get ready with me. I mean, I'm doing the layers of blush. Patrick Ta, the whole works. But I'll tell you right now. I'm not getting, I'm not going for the bath. What I love about you. Unless he is rinsed out in the yard.

55:16No, that's what's crazy is if like I've had guys before be like, go down there, go down there. And I'm just like rubbing it because I'm like, I can smell it through the tunnel. It's wafting. It's wafting towards my nostrils. And I'm uninterested in the fecal matter. I got a long nail. You just tickle. You take the skin. You roll it around a little bit. Because it's also not lost on me. If I go down there and then I go to the wiener and then he puts it in, your shit is in my fucking v and i'm heading to the hospital thank you that's happened before to me that and you know what we're trying not to do have a repeat yeah okay so yeah we get back to blowjobs what i what i do appreciate you doing and i could feel the energy in the stadium when you were saying this oh stadium oh it was a theater but yes i am also playing stadium she's in a stadium it was a stadium it was a fucking stadium is you talking to men and just being like you say it better but like not really thinking about the dick while you're on the dick the last thing i have ever thought about while i have a dick in my mouth is that dick in my mouth i am thinking about the drama that is going on in the next door app i am thinking about you know the rogue raccoon i possibly may have run over in the audi q5 hybrid are you deep in the door next door app it's insane do i need to get on that no no you don't have time i mean you're like i'm I'm running an empire, but you're running like a shempire, okay?

56:37No, I love it. I'm in a group chat with all the ladies of my neighborhood. And when I tell you, it is so fun. We had a car burglary like two weeks ago. If you give a pack of women, and I do say pack of women because we are like wild wolves. If you give a pack of women in a suburban community two clues, they have already found the perpetrator. They found who's linked to. We have taken down a full cartel. So I just want to say, fuck the FBI. white suburban women and we are off to the races not karens we are more sharons you know i am like not kidding you i've heard people talk about this and i think i even if i'm just on the periphery and want to read about like read in on my community i'd kind of like to get in there because i like dumb shit drama that kind of has nothing to do with me unless i guess they're saying that there's like a murderer in our neighborhood it's so refreshing if you're like i can be on the periphery and just kind of like chime in every now and then fantastic but yes if there's a if There's a murderer in my bushes.

57:32Please let me know. Have you ever had a stalker? You know what? No. Like, not yet, bitch. Challenge accepted. No. I've had one person that has lightly kicked it up a notch. Oh, kicked it up a notch. That's the way to put it. It could be equivalent to, like, getting a little stalkery. But I've done a pretty good job at really, like, putting things to an end when it gets a little out of control. But someone's kicked it up a notch recently, and Matt's handling it. I like that. Jeff, my husband runs his own meet and greets at my shows by the bar. So, you know, because I have a ton of gals that come to the shows and he's in the corner just being like, oh, did you want to get a photo?

58:10And I'm like, Jeff, she's fucking nuts. I told you about her. Stop. That's Carol Ann. Run away. Yeah, he loves it. Do you have a stalker? No, but I did have a woman break into my backstage once. Oh. Yeah, but it was my fault because I had given the security guards a couple of Chick-fil-A party platters. So they were just raw dogging some nuggets. Meanwhile, I'm back there completely out in the nude because I like to like really dress up for my shows. So I come out and I sweat like a beast on stage and then I rip off my suit. So I was just taking off my glitter suit and I'm about to put on my jeans and a woman's in the doorway.

58:40And she's like, I found you. So one thing you say to somebody you don't say to somebody, I found you. And then she followed with, don't worry, I'm not going to touch you. No, I was like, that's worse. I'd rather you just fucking grab my cooter and let's call it a day. you know what I mean let's get to the point so what do you want so what did you do did you scream so I said can I I literally was like can I just put on some clothes and I put on my clothes I was like what's up girl and she's like man I just told I said how did you get back here she said I just told the security guard you know like my name's Lane I was like what no no that's what's so funny about those moments it's like when they tell the security guards like oh we're friends we're friends sometimes they're like oh go in go in I'm not worried about a mail stalker I think I'd like a little bit of a boost to the ego but I have always said that I will probably be murdered one day in a TJ Maxx by a white gal named Michelle or Tanya.

59:33That's going to happen. That's who's taking you down. I think that's who's taking you. You didn't read my DM. I'm like, I'm so sorry I didn't see it. I didn't know. I didn't know. I think a light stalker is always good because it keeps you like, oh, we're doing something right. We're kind of a big deal. We're actually doing things. We're a really big deal. Back to the blowjobs. Yes, absolutely. Great transition. I actually think I'm done with the blowjobs. The point is, ladies, you don't have to feel bad. And in your special breadwinner, you really, really touch on the important fact of no one is thinking about giving head when they're giving head.

1:00:05And it's okay if you're multitasking, and that's fine. And what was the other thing you fucking said that was so funny? Oh, my God. You believe that all men are slightly on the spectrum and all women have ADHD? It's so true. I think so. Here's the thing. Men are really good at getting dialed into one thing. My husband is incredibly successful, but he's successful at one thing at a time. Meanwhile, I will be on stage delivering jokes. I already have my Uber Eats order in my head. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I've got to call my attorney on Monday about the thing with the thing. And I'm multitasking all the time.

1:00:38I mean, there are some days where I feel like ADHD can cripple you. But I've realized it's actually, I feel like, all women's superpowers. Yeah, it gets shit done. We get shit done. But yes, I do not think about anything sexual while I'm blowing my husband. And I tell women the best thing. When people come to my show, you know, they used to be like, oh, I drug my husband. And then the husbands have the best fucking time. It shows for everybody. But my job is I like to. I know it's so fucking annoying. I drug my husband here. I'm like, you didn't have to put a gun to his head. I thought you at first just said.

1:01:09I blow them backstage. If you come to my show, I will put your dick in my mouth. I thought you were saying. The people were saying they drugged their husband. Sorry, I probably said that with a little country twine. like they drugged them husbands to my show. I'm like, all these men are fucked up. So what they did is the husbands were out working in the yard and then the women gave them a little date, you know, a little pill in a Coors Light and next thing you know, they're at a Heather McMahon show. Could you imagine? No, I... If all of a sudden you just came to and you're like in a room and there's a glitter, you know, a full-figured blonde woman in a glitter suit just being like, this is what happens when there's a dick in your mouth.

1:01:49That would be like the worst trip of your life. I'm happy that I clarified Heather because I'm not fucking kidding. You multiple comments would have been, damn, like, why didn't you talk about how, like, she drugs her? No, no, no. I'm so sorry. I meant when you drag, like, you force them to come. Drag, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the guys are like, fuck, I never saw it that way. And they have a great time. But, yes, I don't think guys realize we're always, the mind's always swirling. We're always on the move. We're always on the move. We need to talk about the hall pass situation.

1:02:31We need to talk about the hall pass situation. Okay, great. Yes. I'm not trying to give away too much of your special because everyone needs to go watch it and there's so much good fucking shit. But this hall pass situation, you almost can't help but be like, did this actually fucking happen? This is insane, Heather. This is insane. Walk us through. Also, legally, I don't know what I'm allowed to say, but no. My husband's hall pass is the incredible, gorgeous model, Kate Upton. Love. And we were down in the Dirk's of Caicos, and she had DM'd, because we had mutual friends, hey, saw you're down here, would you like to come over for a cocktail?

1:03:07What a nice DM. What a nice DM. And I hadn't gotten my husband a Christmas gift, and I leaned over, and I was just like, hey, let's go have some cocktails. I told him that my sorority sister was down there. It's so good. And so I get him there. I drag him over to this cocktail hour. The door answers and it's Kate's husband, Justin Berlander. And Jeff immediately, because, you know, my husband's the biggest sports fanatic. He had a full boner, full boner standing on the welcome mat of this like, you know, how's my job? Holy fuck. And I just kind of turned around. I remember I'll have it in slow motion.

1:03:39I just kind of gave him that like, like, fuck you, Jeff. Look. And do you think he knew Kate was in there at that point? Or did he just think this is a random coincidence? No, he immediately, like he immediately, as soon as he locked eyes with Justin, And he was like, let's fucking go. You're kind of like a brave woman to bring your husband into the same room as his hall pass. Well, also, Justin Verlander is an incredible athlete, makes a jillion dollars, and is like a model himself. So I wasn't worried about it. If Jeff ever made anything weird, this guy is, you know, an all-star athlete. I feel like he could have body-checked Jeff.

1:04:11No, you're right. And by the end of the time, you're probably like, if he's going to go with her, I at least could go with this. And it's not a bad option. You know what I told Jeff? later on he was like I can't believe you made that happen I said well of course and we never told Kate she didn't know until I sent her the clip from the special I was gonna say did you run it by her no I well I was just like hey I just want you to know like and Kate is the coolest chick in the world I want you to know she was so great and and of course I did not tell her at that dinner like we're sitting at this table with all their friends and and I'm kicking Jeff I'm like Jeff you've been staring too long like he's in the corner just kind of frothing at the mouth and one of their friends had mentioned they're like yeah it's so weird you know like Kate is it's just the coolest chick she's so awesome but like guys get really weird around her you're like i was like smile eat a shrimp cocktail getting weird but no they were awesome but i do think that i have really um you know exposed jeff to these cool opportunities he's gotten to meet all the sports heroes and what have i gotten let me tell you all i wanted all i wanted were two tickets i wanted an heirs tour ticket okay i wanted a beyonce ticket did you go i went on because i made it happen Duh.

1:05:16We were in, actually this is a great story. We were in, I was in Australia. Okay. And I was doing my tour in Australia in February. Well, Taylor Swift just happened to be there at the same time. Love. You can't get tickets resale in Australia because they don't have like a stub hub. It's like illegal. Okay. But I was like, Jeff, figure it out. Call my agent, figure it out. Surprise me. I want to go. It's my last night in Sydney. I've been in Australia for a month, Tori. Okay. Jeff's like, I have a surprise for you tonight. I'm like, this is it. He got tickets. I'm going to the Ares tour. I've got the friendship bracelets ready.

1:05:44Let's go. And next thing you know, our hotel was right around the corner from the Sydney Harbor Bridge. Okay. So it's five o 'clock. I'm like getting ready. He's like, oh, no, no, just go dress casual. I'm like, oh, he's got a surprise. He probably has like an outfit for me. Like this guy thought of everything. He made me climb the Sydney Harbor Bridge instead of letting me go to the Air Store. Now, mind you, I have a fear of outdoor heights. If I'm on a tall balcony, I'm always like, not that I would ever want to harm myself. I don't have intrusive thoughts, but I'm always kind of like, what would happen if I just left?

1:06:14Right. You know? It's just a little bit like, what if? What if? Right. You can't help. So I am on the top of the bridge in this full windsuit, windbreaker onesie, gripping the side. And they put me at the back of the group. I can't even talk because I'm having flashbacks of how dramatic that was. They put me in the back of the group. I'm clinging onto the side of the bridge. And the guy comes up. He's like, are you good? And I was like, I was supposed to be at the heiress tour. and I'm freezing on top of this bridge and we got off the bridge we take a photo the photo that we have on top of the bridge is the funniest shit they're like smile and I'm like doing a peace sign like just like I hate my husband oh I had stroked out at that point I was completely like there was no mind body connection I cried when we got off the bridge and I'm not a I'm I'm a tough cookie yep and Jeff went to give me a hug he's like wasn't that the best and I was like I don't no this is gonna work out like get away from me you piece of fucking yeah shit men that can be so fucking dumb like so dumb like you knew i wanted this and because we're not going like figure out something that we could at least and also surprise me and also probably let you know beforehand the surprise ain't gonna be taylor but i got something else for you to make it as big like as great as i could and to make up for it his defense was it was our last night in sydney of course we'd never get to do this again and the best part was when you go to do the climb on the sydney bridge they have all these celebrities that are up and they play the photos while you're doing the safety briefing they play the photos of all the celebrities there's a couple like d-list celebrities and i was like they didn't even ask to take my photo at the end of this

1:07:55so not only did i ship myself on top of this bridge they don't even have a record of it for when other people go to climb the Sydney Bridge. They don't know that the number one comedian of all time, Heather McMahon, was on the bridge. Heather. Yeah, against my will. But it was a great memory. So have you ever gone and seen the Arrows tour? I did. I saw it a couple weeks ago in London. How good? And let me tell you what, it was awesome. I'm a theater nerd. I wanted to see the production. Yeah. And it was just fucking awesome. Good for Taylor. It is so incredible. Like, I went once and I'm gonna go again.

1:08:28And I just fucking love her. I love her too. And I didn't really, I think I kind of missed literally the era of Taylor for the breakup moments growing up. I was just like two years older than that. So while the girlies were crying to, you know. Me. Yeah, when the girlies were crying to all these songs, I was in my dorm room listening to 3-6 Mafia. That was what, you know, I was doing drive-bys in the Jetta past the ATO house just being like, Nook, if you buck. Nook, if you buck, you know. like that's and I was like it's a love story baby just say yes yeah yeah that was not I was I was in revenge mode that's why reputation's my favorite album oh it is that's why we're snakeskin you know yeah I'm a reputation girl I'm literally like a folklore girl really but that's great I mean I have a softer side but I I love that when she's in the full snake skin and the one leg's out.

1:09:22Oof, I love it. When are you going on your cruise? That's in April. I'm doing a cruise. And again, you know, I talked about possibly getting murdered in a TJ Maxx. It also might happen on the Lido day. I was going to say, I don't know if you're coming back, but you'll have a good time. I will. And I might not come back because I'll get arrested in the Bahamas. I don't know what's going to happen, but we are doing a cruise and it's like 2 ,000 fans on the cruise and it's other comedians and it's just going to be four days at sea of us just letting it rip. And so will you just like... Roam around in a muumuu?

1:09:53Yes, absolutely. With a pina colada and a rum runner in my other hand? Absolutely. And are you going to just like next to you could, like staying next to you could be like one of your fans. And like you could be knocking on the wall and they like, oh, you're just like one with the people. I'm one with the people. But also, you know, when you do comedy too, like I have meet and greets after my shows and I know everybody. Like, you know, I'm one with the people. I mean, you did have to, you know, the cruise isn't a super cheap thing to do. So I'm hoping that people who are making a financial investment are also like maybe a little touch less crazy.

1:10:21But actually the richest ones you know are the ones that are crazy. They'll bring you the gifts to the show. And it's like, you're like, I bought you a Birkin bag. And I put an air tag in it so I know where you are at all times. And you're like, I don't. The Birkin bag for me is a little too cumbersome. Okay. I think it's a bad investment. I said it. I'm going to get absolutely burned at the stakes for saying that. I agree. It's heavy. It's just big. It's also like. It's clunky. It's not that cute. Not that cute. And you can't, like, you can't put it over your shoulders. So if you're trying to, like, look thin in a photo, you know what I mean?

1:10:52You're like, it's like, it just squeezes the arm. It's not a good look. It's cumbersome. It's cumbersome. But yeah, we're doing a cruise. It's going to be insane. Comedy at night. My mom's going to be there. My husband's going to be running poker tournaments in the casino. Taking pictures with the fans. Yeah, my sister's a criminal defense attorney, so I'm keeping her on land because I might have to, you know, we don't know what's going to happen. And she's going to be at the port in Miami as people are getting off the boat or not getting off the boat. So she's going to get a couple new clients.

1:11:16I am obsessed. Will you be posting on your social media about it when you're there? We're going to. We really should make a full documentary about it. It's an ex-Fried Festival. Yeah, it's fire fets and it turns like super dark. And then at the end, it's just all of us with like the norovirus just like, and that was a day that the ship never came back. I would. No, it will never happen. But I honestly. But then I'd have it like an in memoriam at the Emmys. and I have you know I haven't been nominated yet but at least I'd be there at least I'd be there glass half full baby I am so excited for you okay can we talk about the special now wrapping up yeah I mean we've been talking about the special the whole time but I do want to know like I was talking to Hannah Berner about this the other my girl I just am so it's so incredible to watch yeah people that truly deserve it and are actually so fucking funny like get what they deserve and I'm so happy for you.

1:12:06How did this even come to be? Well, so I, um, I produced my own special and I did the first one. I did the same thing. So I, I didn't in this business, you cannot wait around for people. I mean, listen, you're a self-starter. You just, if you build it, they will come. So I, uh, just shot it. I shot at the Fox theater in Atlanta, which is like my home theater. I mean, talk about like a real full circle moment for me. Um, and, and then I, you know, then you take it out to market and you sell it so it is so cool the one thing the one thing i really love about stand-up is nobody can tell me no you know it is in this business you get in tv developmental deals they take forever you know you got to get a thousand attorneys involved all this shit but for stand-up i can just pop into a place get on stage say my piece do the damn thing and as long as there are asses and seats listen there could be one person in the fucking audience I'm like, we're going to have a good time.

1:12:56But like that is it is the the greatest love of my life other than my family is getting to do stand up. And it just brings me so much joy. It's so incredible. It's going to be on Hulu, right? Yeah. What is the exact date it comes out? That's a great question. I don't know, but we will post on Instagram. It's coming out very soon. I know it's going to be insane. I was going to say the date. Can I just tell you right now I do think it should win a Peabody I should at least get nominated for the Emmys Hi, my name's Heather McMahon My comedy special breadwinner is coming out on Hulu And when I tell you I'm a bad bitch I'm wearing a denim outfit That's bedazzled And it is probably going to be one of the greatest pieces Of art and comedy ever seen It should be nominated for awards Or at least give me a Mark Twain comedy award Thank you so much, God bless Live, laugh, love tune in on bleep it's very soon I'll fucking put it in the description I've never been great with details okay I'm so excited for you oh my god that was like a we're like bleep hello okay we're back wrapping up we need to shut the fuck up and go film some content this has been really fun has it?

1:14:06can I tell you I really enjoy you I'm not blowing smoke up your ass this has been fun I'm so proud of you I know we just met but it is so fucking cool to see fucking bitches doing it I know just doing it period period and you should be so part of yourself thank you I feel the same way about you that's why it's so fun to do what we do because I feel like we get to like see each other on social media yeah it's always funny to be like what is this bitch gonna be like like I'm sure you thought that when you're coming here like what is Alex Hoover gonna be like and I I am so happy you're so fucking normal and like you're humble and you're amazing and your tits are fucking amazing thank you I really appreciate it and I just want y 'all to know that you know be the you today that you want to be tomorrow Heather I love you thank you for coming on call I love you thank you for having me.

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Join Alex in the studio for an unhinged and hilarious conversation with Heather McMahan where they discuss blow job techniques, the time her husband partied with his hall pass, being a golf widow, and what millennial trends are worth fighting for. Get ready to laugh your ass off Daddy Gang. Enjoy!


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