I’m Engaged

0:02What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

0:12Holy shit. Daddy gang, we have so much to discuss today. You saw the title and the title is real. I'm engaged. I know. I know. I'm a little shocked too, I will say so myself. And even coming on here, I will be real with you in the five years now that I've been doing Call Her Daddy when I started the show I never fucking in my wildest dreams I don't even know it was dreams or my nightmares I don't know what it was but back then I never fucking thought that I would be sitting here one probably even telling you I was in a healthy relationship and two now being engaged it's not clickbait it's real I have a fucking ring on my finger I still can't really get used to it there's a lot going on and I bet you guys are like hey Al so so happy for you what the fuck bitch.

1:08We, I would, the last thing I would have expected is you to tell us you were engaged. You guys were probably expecting me to break up with him before us get engaged. And I realized that because I kind of haven't talked to you about my relationship for a really long time. I think the last life update I did was like, we live together. We bought a house together. And even then you all were like, huh? Like you bought a fucking house with a man that you're not married to. So let's get into it because I realize I owe you an explanation, a big, big, big explanation. The first explanation is who am I engaged to?

1:45Who is this man? Who is the man that took me off the market? Who is the man that gets the gluck luck for the rest of his life? Yeah, you're lucky, bitch. I always refer to him. I always have little nicknames for all my past lovers, Slim Shady, door number three, the Canadian, they come and go. This one apparently is going to last, I hope forever. 50 % of marriages do end in divorce. So let's just keep it. I'm already fucking cursing myself before I get married. I call him Mr. Sexy Zoom Man. And again, it's Zoom as in the video chat, not zoo. He doesn't work at the zoo, although that would be an incredible job.

2:23Zoom man. But let's start with the basics. What is his real name? Because I'm going to just tell you fucking everything. His name is Matt Kaplan. So I'm going to just start calling him Matt. Hi, Matt. Matt is my fiance. And I want to now tell you guys some of the fun stuff, like how he proposed.

3:04so how did matt propose he proposed on a friday and just to give you guys i know you guys are gonna be pissed at me but like i he proposed over a month and a half ago and so i have been keeping this to myself for a month and a half which was truly so fun and I'm so happy that I kept it for myself and just my family my friends but then after like a week I was starting to like twitch because I was like I've been doing interviews not being able to wear the ring and people are asking about my relationship and I just have been like I need to fucking tell the daddy gang so he did it on a Friday he like left early in the morning he usually brings me coffee every single morning will come in.

3:44He's like very romantic and sweet and cute. He didn't bring me coffee that day. And I was like, what the fuck? I texted him. He's like, sorry, I had an early meeting. I had to go, babe. Like, love you. Have a great day. Whatever. I'm like, great. I'll see you tonight. Let's have a wine night and just chill. Little did I fucking know. I go to my studio and I have a photo shoot for W Magazine. And I was told this photo shoot was going to be for a piece in W Magazine. and we just have to take a bunch of pictures. So I show up and there's like outfits galore and all of a sudden this person shows up and they're doing my hair, my makeup and they're like, we have to do your nails.

4:20I don't think anything of it. My nails are always disgusting. I have these press-ons. You'll probably see one fall off at some point today. I'm getting the full pampered treatment. But again, I'm about to do a photo shoot so I'm not thinking anything of it. I start doing this photo shoot and little did I know this was a fake photo shoot. Okay. Matt and Kate Bailey who is my publicist that you guys have seen in the Milan episode conspired and they were like how the fuck are we gonna get Alex to look presentable for these engagement photos like I'm especially on a Friday I know I'm staying with Matt I'm gonna do no makeup hair in a bun disgusting BO like you could not see me look worse than when I know I'm just gonna be chilling with my boyfriend on a Friday night so they're like how do we get her look good fake a photo shoot number one so I go into this photo shoot I get all my makeup done we're going through the photo shoot and then all of a sudden it's starting to get like kind of late and I will say I sense some desperation from one of the publicists there being like let's do another look and another look and I kept just being like I just kind of want to go home like don't you think we've had enough like also the direction of the photo shoot made no fucking sense and I've been honest with you guys I really don't like photo shoots it's my one thing that I'm very insecure well I have a lot of insecurities but that's one thing in work wise I'm like I'm not good at photo shoots so immediately I'm like there's no creative direction why am I doing this photo shoot none of it really made sense of course it didn't make sense it was a fake fucking photo shoot and so then they were buying time and I didn't know this and they're like let's do one last look we need you to be holding a prop so I'm like it's Friday I'm gonna fucking light a joint and have that be my prop in the photo and like let's get fucking lit like I'm just gonna be high and then like what so I start smoking in this photo the photographer didn't know I was getting engaged that night but my publicist did and she's being such a fucking narc she's like give me the joint like stop smoking and I'm like it's good for the photo like I'm getting high as fuck and she in her mind is like you're about to get engaged bitch and I refuse to let you show up high out of your fucking mind when he proposes but I didn't know I'm like it's Friday she's like I don't want you to drive high I'm like I'll just chill here then I'll go home Matt doesn't give a fuck meanwhile they wanted to do it perfectly at 5 30 sunset the whole thing so I'm getting high she finally rips out and she's like oh sorry I lost it it's whatever I stopped smoking finally the photo shoot ends and I'm trying to rush everyone out the door.

6:49Everyone's like being so fucking slow. I'm like, let's go people. Don't you want to enjoy your Friday night? Clearly not. I get in the car finally. And I text Matt before I start leaving. I'm like, what time are you going to be home? He's like 530. I'm like, perfect. I'll be home at like 520. Let's open that bottle of wine. And he's like, can't wait. Can't wait. And finally I get home and I drive up and Matt's car is not there. So I'm like, I'm home first. great. I go in through our laundry room. I'm holding like a water bottle, my keys, my phone. Like I have like my hair in my mouth because it's stuck in my lip gloss.

7:23Like just not thinking anything of it. And I open the door and all of a sudden there are candles everywhere. What the fuck is this? And there is a laptop sitting with a sign that says, play me.

7:49and Adele is playing all throughout our house. Now, you might think in that moment, I was like, I'm getting engaged. I swear to you, Daddy Gang, I didn't. something had recently happened that I was convinced Spotify was sending Matt and I condolences for something personal that had happened. And I thought they were like, Spotify is great to me. So they'll always send like flowers or whatever. So I walk in and my first thought was like, oh wow, Spotify is being so cute. Oh my God. Like they sent, like, I should wait for Matt to like see whatever this is. And then 10 seconds in, I'm like, but why is there a card and a fucking computer that says play me what the fuck is the computer doing here so i say oh fuck matt i'm just gonna play it and see what's happening and i press play on the computer and it's matt

9:02and it's a video of him in the same exact outfit that he wore on our first zoom meeting he had like the bandana for covid for his mask he had like his outfit on the he literally was spitting image of what I looked at when I first met him on a zoom meeting. And my heart dropped into my ass. A part of me was like not still registering what was about to happen. And this sounds like, I'll be honest with you guys. Matt is, I was going to say one of the most that retract is the most romantic person that I have ever met in my life. like I feel so blessed I'll come home some nights and it's like flowers and candles and like just like wine nights and him being so thoughtful so I'm not saying I thought this was just about to be another beautiful night that Matt put together but my mind did kind of go to like we had been going through a lot of personal stuff that I'm like maybe he's just trying to reset the mood like let's have a good week I was trying to think of everything except for am I getting engaged because I will say I was in a little bit of shock and just trying to be like is this actually happening this is actually happening and I'm not going to tell you guys all the details but he basically talks for like two and a half three minutes about our relationship and is basically saying like Alex you are the love of my life and I can't imagine my life without you and we've been through so much you make me a better person like he does this whole thing and at the end he's like but I feel like there's one thing missing and I'm hoping that you can help me figure it out.

10:44So look down and there is a card and I want you to follow the card. So then the video stops and all of a sudden now I'm like, I think I know what's happening, but I'm still like in denial. I'm like, what's going on? And then I see from the fucking corners of like the darkness, Aaron, who is my videographer comes like into the corner with a camera. And I literally am like, what the fuck is going on? And he's like, I don't fucking know. We literally started working together like a week before this happens he's like shaking he's like I don't know I don't know open the fucking card so I'm like okay here we go so he's filming me I open the card and at this point I know what's happening but I'm still in shock and I'm just like again guys I thought I was coming home to a wine night like I'm not expecting this at this point because we had been going through a lot emotionally that I'm like it's not gonna happen night I open the card and it is a full fucking scavenger hunt and it takes me to like go to the place in our house where we and then it would be something really cute that like you guys don't need to know the details but it was like a cute thing so I immediately like the kitchen I go up to the kitchen and the first part of the kitchen is over like 25 photos framed of our firsts I'm gonna really pass out.

12:05I'm so...

12:10I literally feel like I'm about to faint. The first time we ever went to Hawaii together, the first time we went to Santa Barbara together, the first time we got our dog Bruce together, the first time that we had sex together, and we've got kind of an interesting photo of that day. Like, every single first we ever did, he framed. Or, if he didn't have a photo of us, he framed the memory of the ticket or something. It's all first in the kitchen. So now I'm like, I'm gonna fucking die! And so Adele is blaring through our house. Then I open the next scavenger hunt. I go to another room. It's all of my favorite foods.

12:41Pizza, Cheetos, like all of the food all over. And then pictures of us at places that we love to eat and dinners that we will like remember forever. And like a dinner that he told me like he loved me for the first time. Like all this crazy shit. Fucking face.

13:02and it was room by room by room the entire house was filled with these huge candles everywhere and finally the last card took me to my closet and he laid out my engagement outfit and this is why I love this man it wasn't heels it wasn't a dress it was my unwell sweats with a card that said, put these on. It's chilly outside and meet me by the Buddha. I need to clarify this guys. There's a Buddha in our house. We bought this house and there's this giant, giant, like 500 pound Buddha that we felt would be really bad luck if we move it from our house. Like, I feel like that's just awful luck. Like get rid of the Buddha.

13:45And then like our life just changes forever. And like nothing goes right ever since we leave the Buddha out of our house. So we kept the Buddha. So when you see these photos, guys, just know I'm not Buddhist. Maybe one day. You never know. But I'm not Buddhist. And there's no sentimental value to this Buddha. It just happens to be there. But we have this area that we've kind of made this like courtyard area near the Buddha. It's a really relaxing area. Sometimes we'll have coffee in the morning there together. And it says go to the place where we like meditate, relax, and like whatever. And I knew exactly where he was.

14:14He was with the fucking Buddha. So this is like a long trail to get there. and I have to go down these steps and through these trees. And I look down, still Adele blaring, candles lit on every single step. And he was standing underneath the canopy with roses everywhere, candles everywhere. And Henry and Bruce are dogs in little bow ties. anyways and at this point I'm like I I am going to throw up like what like I needed to just get to Matt that's what everyone said it's like we thought it would take you like 15 minutes to get through the house I was like running through each thing of like I just want to get to Matt I just want to get to Matt and I see Matt and I'm like at the top of the stairs and he's like hi baby and I'm like oh and he's like he's holding the fucking box and I'm like fuck and so I just like run down the stairs.

15:14I go to him. He doesn't say anything. He just gets on one knee and he says, make me the happiest man in the world. I love you so much. I can't imagine my life without you. You're my person. You're my best friend. You're my soulmate. You're the best sex I've ever had. And you mean everything to me in this world. Please marry me. I love you. And I don't even think I said yes actually now that I'm thinking about it I was like what and I'm just like freaking out at him and finally I I finally calm down and I look at him and I'm like absolutely he puts the ring on my finger and we're both sobbing we're just like hysterical Henry and Bruce come up to us we just start kissing all the good things and it was like truly the best best moment of my life It was such an incredible moment that I think I never pictured how this would happen.

16:11I've never really thought of this from a young age, how I would want it to go down. And I will say, Matt is so creative and thoughtful. And he knew I wanted it to be private. But I also had told him, which we'll get into. I told him he was allowed to do this. That will come later on. But I told him, just make it our own, but make it private. It couldn't have been more perfect. So we cheers champagne and we go upstairs. Music is playing. We're having fun. We're cheersing. We're doing all the things. And he said, OK, go pack a bag. We're going to stay at the Bel Air tonight, which is a hotel in L.A.

16:45And we are going to go to this dinner at the Four Seasons first, though, that someone told me is like amazing. We're not this private chef and we're going to go to a dinner, the two of us. And I'm like, oh, my fucking God, this is perfect. I need to call my parents, though. And he's like, you can call them later. like let's just I'm like no no no I have to call my parents so I FaceTime my parents and they're in bed and they're in bed together and it's like it's like late in my mind in Pennsylvania and I'm like mom and dad like I'm engaged my parents look shocked they're like what the fuck like Alex we're so happy for you Matt we love you and I'm FaceTiming them and I'm like should I call my siblings and they're like just go have a good night call them tomorrow and I'm like okay I love you guys.

17:27Finally, we've cried. We've drank a bunch of champagne. He's like, we're going to go to the Bel Air and I'm just excited to go have this dinner alone. And like, honestly, just talk to him about like, how did you do this? How long have you known? Like, what was the set? Like, I'm just ready to just like be alone with him and sitting in this room and like grill him. So we're on in the car. I'm in shock. And we roll up to the Four Seasons, which is where we were going to get dinner. And I'm walking, holding his hand, just like looking at him, looking at him, talking and I turned the corner and there's one more surprise.

18:11Matt had flown in. My entire family, all of my best friends from childhood and his entire family were standing there in the room. We were about to have dinner and it was a huge fucking party and he surprised me one more fucking time. I'm like, no more fucking surprises.

18:38My parents, when I thought they were in bed in Pennsylvania, they ran upstairs to their hotel room because they're like, I bet she's going to call us. My poor parents, everyone's like, she's not going to call you. My parents were like, well, we want to be prepared if she calls us. I think we can just prop these pillows up more and she'll never know. I thought you were home. I was about to send you the photos that Erin sent you. They were in bed. I call my parents. Thank God they were like, my dad put on a pajama top. My mom got under the covers in the Four Seasons in California. Little did I know, I thought they were in Pennsylvania.

19:12And they're like, congrats, Alex. They rip off the sheets. They put on their party outfits and everyone went downstairs. and we partied. I had no idea anyone was in town.

19:33They had been in town since Wednesday. My parents went, picked up the ring with Matt. My best friends had been there. Everyone was in town. And it was truly the most like memorable loving experience that I have ever ever had in my life and it was it was perfect and I will remember it for the rest of my life Matt's here come you can come in

20:10I gave them your identity I said it's not Copland Get ready Daddy gang knows you Can't fuck it up now Bye, love you

20:41Woo! Okay. I'm really happy that I got that off my chest. I feel like I just had a therapy session because I was feeling a little bogged down from not telling you guys about that. I was feeling really weighted and now I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest. The daddy gang knows that I'm engaged. That's all that matters. What?

21:04Lauren, if you're only listening to this in video, Lauren is raising her hand. Lauren's been here the whole time of this episode. Lauren's raising her hand in the corner. Can I help you, sweetie? I just think I have a lot to contribute here. I have a lot of thoughts. Like about your engagement. I was going to say, you're reminding to meet the type of person that's like does anybody object and Lauren's like I object you you want to talk about my engagement yeah I was a huge part of it let's go I thought you'd never ask oh okay we have to get you a chair wait maybe we should move you actually want to come on literally asked you this morning if you wanted to come on and you're like no no no like Alex this is about you I needed to like add some things into the story here right she's feeling now a little more comfortable and she's like you go do it and maybe i'll pop in now you want to we cannot film this like this let's move the room let's put the two chairs back in like normal oh and then i'll sit there and you'll sit there well no that's where i sit well i have a few thoughts

22:11did you write interview questions yeah let's go barren only barren

22:27Okay, here we go. This is so uneven. People probably think we have people that do this for us. No, it's just us. This is really fucking heavy.

22:40Eight men delivered that. Eight men delivered this, okay? Stand up and get some leverage. I feel like that's like, let's go.

22:54No, Lauren, you have to go, we have to shimmy. You have to go this way and then I'll go this way. You should be that way. Yeah.

23:02Two hours later. You know what I was about to say? What? Like sitting in this seat with like the cards, I have like butterflies in my stomach. Like imagine if there was someone actually famous in front of me. No, I swear. You are. isn't it weird yeah it looks like kind of chill but when you're actually in this room and there's all these lights yeah like it's it's intimidating yeah i feel like i'm like i'm like oh how's this gonna go are you ready are you ready alex cooper welcome to call her daddy am i supposed to say thank you for having me yeah you're welcome thank you for having me on the show let's get into it so let's go back to your childhood how did the wounding of your inner child that resulted from years of intense bullying impact the relationships you were unconsciously drawn through throughout your life you're such a dick i love it it's like call her daddy what happened in your childhood let's go from the beginning who fucked you up why are you the way you are when i was writing that i was like how many like words can I put into one sentence child wounding I love it no yeah um thank you for having me here today and I will not be answering that question now later you will you're interviewing me I am watch me I'm gonna start interviewing you I'm like you can't even don't even try Lauren so I know that your engagement was stressful for you in the moment of like having no idea it was happening but you have no idea how stressful it was for me yeah I'm like Lauren let's talk about what you were going through no but actually yeah so matt texted me he only gave me a week notice so matt texted me a week before and he texted me and was just like laryn secret convo and i was like what the fuck like does secret convo mean like i can't think of anything else it would mean besides an engagement but mind you the last time like i had spoken to you about marriage like we hadn't talked we don't talk about it often but like the last time we talked about it probably like six months prior you were like still a little like on the fence and then we talked about it a year prior and you were like no I'm not getting married like I don't believe in marriage so you were startled I was like like what's going like is he about to tell me he's proposing but does Alex even want to get married so I call him and like while I'm on the phone with him I'm literally like wait Matt like not to be like an asshole but like have you talked to her about marriage like is she gonna say yes and he's like no no no like don't worry we like she's gonna say yes I was like okay phew like I could take a breath knowing that like you weren't gonna be like blindsided I was like whoa whoa whoa like do I need to like have some like one-off like so like what are your views on marriage these days so to top it all off like you were in Milan for fashion week the week prior to getting engaged and Matt was like I have to do it now like I can never pull off a surprise with Alex like she's too in the know with anything like if I have any chance of pulling this off it's gonna be like setting everything up while she's in Milan and I was like okay like that makes sense but you come back from Milan and you're like texting me we're like calling each other and you're like I've literally never been more tired in my entire life like I don't even want to work this week I literally cannot wait for the weekend just to like take a gummy not leave my house and like not leave my bed I'm like oh okay cool like little do you know that like all of your family and friends are like about to surprise you and you're about to be engaged so I'm like is she gonna say yes is she gonna be happy that all of us are in town like this is like a shot in the dark how is this gonna go okay now hearing it from your perspective that's very stressful trust me I like like I was like talking to my boyfriend and he was like do you think she was like I'm like she has negative like in all history of engagements like this woman has negative idea that she's about to be proposed to so we're Friday I'm in LA this is the day of your engagement I'm in LA Matt was an angel and like put us all at the same hotel um it's like me Kristen Jackie your mom like we're all in at the hotel we go and have lunch together your mom's like I went and picked out the ring the ring is beautiful she's like is Alex gonna say yes I'm like I hope so like we're just in the dark because like you were we're gonna get there but like you were having conversations with Matt and like you guys didn't know we didn't know about probably should have told you yeah um so we were just like we're here and if she runs out screaming and it's a blowout like we're here for that too like you never know what you're gonna get with Alex Cooper fuck fuck so it's like engagement time and like none of no one has your location so like we like didn't really like know to like know when to expect you and like I was so anxious and nervous that I didn't eat lunch because I was like what's gonna happen like this is like a big anticipation There's a lot of like moving pieces and unknown factors here.

27:47And then I got so excited once you showed up that I didn't eat dinner. Then we got hammered. Then we got hammered. Lauren, halfway through the night, you were like, can I do a speech? No, I know. This is you became like another woman in this moment. I got so nervous. No, you got so excited. I like pulled you like not even pulled you aside. I casually said to you like, you know, like I have a few words I could say. and you're like oh like a speech and I'm like I mean it's not written anywhere but like I've been thinking through some things and you're then you're like oh and then you pull me close you're like are you gonna embarrass me and I was like no I don't think so you become a woman on a mission there is so we were like in the back corner of the lounge in the four seasons kind of like have like our own area but like we didn't like rent out the space it wasn't a private event so like it was a Friday night in LA at the four seasons lounge like people were there like having their drinks there was a live band playing you go to the live band and you shut down the live music and then my friend wants to give a speech everybody needs to relax you shut down the music you gather I think there's like 25 30 people at like your engagement celebration you gather everyone in a large circle and then you go you push me into the middle I don't have any like I don't even have like a notes on my phone like nothing is written well to be fair you are like pretty fucking confident I had a little liquid courage at that point so yeah it's also just cute because I think these are moments in life where we're best friends we've been best friends since we were so young but like there's not many moments in life that you get to just like do something like that for each other and I think it was cool too because like I was so a part of like the evolution of you and Matt's relationship and like that's how like I opened the speech and um daddy gang I guess I'm gonna do my speech for you right now yeah it was really good um I was like do you want me to like give the beginning story yeah okay um I was like so when I met Matt I was at a really weird point in my life I was coming out of a seven-year relationship and I was living on Alex's couch and that's when you and Matt like had just met we're just starting talking like in the phases of like facetiming every night so I was facetiming that every night I was getting to know Matt with you and I remember one night where you and Matt were facetiming and nothing like profound was really said it was just like a fun we were having some wine he was in Canada filming a movie and like we were just like hanging out on like a Saturday night it was COVID.

30:23So like, it was like a FaceTime hang. And you hang up the FaceTime and I just start crying. And you're like, Lauren, like what, what happened? What's wrong? And I was like, whoa, like, I want to find someone who looks at me that way and talks to me that way. And like, that was a FaceTime. And I could feel that through like a FaceTime. Like, you're lucky. Hold on to that. From that moment onward, like forward, Matt set the caliber of the type of guy that like type of man that like I knew that I needed in my life and that was the next part of the speech which in theory like I really should have because then I started listing things that you and Matt taught me about a healthy and good relationship and you know in theory like those are things that probably I should have had listed because I was just coming up with them on the spot a little drunk and I was like Matt and Alex taught me what a healthy sex life was my mom was just like oh my dad was like oh and I was like and I people have that reaction and I was like what the fuck you know who this person is i'm like mom you listen to my fucking show oh and you know who else was in the room i was so into my speech that like you know like when you're like speaking and like everyone around you was just like blurry and like you're just like speak words speak words so like we're in a circle and like like i said like the four seasons was like it was a full swing in friday night like going morgan freeman was there he joined the circle and he did not want to walk through while lauren was in the middle of her speech so he's standing in the fucking room and And so Lauren's giving her speech and Morgan Freeman just stops and is like listening to Lauren's speech and smiling and looking at Lauren.

31:57And then Lauren finally finishes her speech and he just like goes around. And I'm like, do you know who was just watching your speech? And I'm like, no, because I was just blacked out. What did I even just say just now? Best night of my life. Like I couldn't have been happier. It was such a fun weekend. It was truly the most fun weekend of my life. And I will never forget it.

32:33so let's go back to the beginning you have a lot of new listeners who may not even know who Mr. Sexy's zoom man is tell them how the two of you first met it was in the middle of the pandemic and my agent called me and he was like we should do a call her daddy tv show like a scripted series like we should do something about it and I was like I just don't think that it's like the right time like I want to focus on the podcast but sure I'll have some meetings with producers and I remember I had like a string of four producers that I had to meet one was like the producer of Gossip Girl the original one and I was like geeking out but a lot of these producers were like older people so I was very just like like I was not thinking of like anything sexual obviously when I'm talking to these men and then my last meeting was with Matt but I googled him and I was like wait he's young and he's hot and I immediately I'm like fuck I need to put makeup on in a push-up bra and a tight shirt and look fucking hot as shit so like in these other meetings I'm like hi I'm Alex and then I'm like oh fuck like let's go so in those 15 minutes I make myself look hot and I get on the zoom and I'm just staring at him like I'm staring at his square thank god you can't tell what you're staring at but he had this like humble confidence about him that i was like i had just been fucking with losers like i was dating guys that were just so insecure and i think there was something about matt that just made me feel very like wow he's such like an independent human like you could just tell he's like good on his own shit like he's confident he's successful like that was the initial attraction is like he is a very whole person it appeared and I assumed how did you progress from that zoom yeah to a first date because I'm assuming he didn't leave that zoom being like oh yeah she's the one no yeah he was like not interested in me and I was like that's my husband um not actually but I was like I'm into it I also was like in a lull where like I kind of wasn't talking to like all my old side pieces people on my roster the roster had completely disintegrated to like three guys that I was like kind of done with, bored with.

34:39And so I remember that night, my mom was in New York City with me randomly staying with me. And I Googled him and looked up every possible interview that I could watch of him. That's what I used to do with these athletes is I would like look up every interview, watch them, study them, watch their body language. So while I'm creepily watching this video of him speaking at like an NYU conference, I will never forget it. He had like this hot, like gray t-shirt on. He looks great. I get an email from him. And this is the next day after we had our zoom and I get this email from him and it's like, so are we making this TV show or what?