Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG

0:02What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy. Kylie Kelsey, welcome. Call her daddy. Thank you so much. How are you doing? We're hot. Sweaty and pregnant. I tell everybody, everyone will like say, oh, you're glowing. And I'm like, no, I'm sweating because I'm either nauseous or it's too hot in here. You look amazing though. Thank you so much. This is like, I'm not trying to gas you up, but you have the most gorgeous skin. That is very kind. No, because when I met, okay, so we've met before. Yes. We met on the sidelines at the Eagles game. Was that two weeks ago?

0:38Two weeks ago. That was such a fucking good game. Well, I guess it was three weeks ago now because Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three weeks ago. That was such an insane game. The snow, all of it. But I remember we met for the first time and that was my first impression of you. I was like, why is her skin so perfect? You are far too kind. Shout out. Far too kind. I'm so happy we're doing this. I think people are going to freak the fuck out that we're getting to sit down together. I hope so. I think so. They're like, this is actually. Otherwise, I'm so sorry to call her daddy audience. The daddy gang's like, what the fuck?

1:05No, people are going to be excited. first of all just to give context we are sitting in these like horrid amazing recliner chairs thank god my husband didn't come why he would have been like how fast can you ship these back to our house no i this is this is my husband's style chair i they're actually so fucking ugly but they but they swallow you up yeah oh they're cozy and i do that's all he cares about by the end we could recline oh perfect yeah yeah we can like get cozy oh great we're gonna start professional then we're gonna fuck ankle swelling i got this okay we're gonna we're gonna get our feet elevated but i got this set up for us and i was like it's ugly but it is indicative of where we are we're in new orleans superbowls tomorrow i feel like you've probably been to a lot of super bowls right yes what is the most like fit like favorite memory you have of a super bowl anything i mean i would love to say minnesota but i don't have that many memories because i blacked out classic can you give some context to people that aren't familiar with what you're talking yeah So the Eagles won the Super Bowl, Super Bowl 52 in Minnesota.

2:10And it was incredible. I mean, my husband was the center at the time. It was unreal to watch. And also I'm from Philadelphia, so I knew what it meant to the city. But the stress, like even thinking about it, it was making me sweat again. the stress of watching him play knowing what it meant to the city and also that we hadn't had one I grew up in Pennsylvania and so like being you get it I get it and we've been through a lot and and Philly fans we are it's aggressive like that's a very nice way to say really how would yeah yeah how would you describe Philly fans I mean we're appalling and I say we because like I fully embrace the fact that it's all of us.

2:56You partake. I mean, there are some times where I think fans, like specifically Philly fans, get a bad rap because of viral moments. I do not claim them. Although there was a little kid who like tapped someone on the shoulder or something at a game and then just like flipped him the bird. And I was like, I do claim that. You're like, actually, I love that. I condone that energy. I actually love that child. Obviously, your husband's retired now, but when he was playing, what was the energy like in your household on game day? Horrific. Okay, walk me through it. I mean, I would like start like manifesting superstitions as if that was going to help.

3:39Like always put my left shoe on before my right. Make sure that like certain things, if I needed to switch spots while the game was happening that I did that. there was one game where I was folding laundry for our girls. It was a late night game and I bent down next to the laundry basket and suddenly there was like a really good run. And I was like, well, now I'm crouching next to a laundry basket. And for the rest of the game, which was like 30 to 40 minutes, I crouched next to the laundry basket. There's photo evidence somewhere. I sent it to my other friend who is another wife of a player and was like, am I squatting next to a laundry basket yes am i going to stop no no are we gonna win yes did they win yes period saying it's because i was crouching next to the laundry basket i'm not willing to risk it absolutely not what i'm saying i logically i love the energy you're like if this is working we're gonna fucking keep with it wait are you now still doing that though for the eagles like even now that he's not playing are you still giving to some degree okay you've not yes okay okay and honestly i think is mostly just because during games, like my kid, like I'm not going to the stadium anymore for home games.

4:49And so then like, I basically tell, like, I have to like help my kids with things and they pull me out. Is it weird that you're not going? Like, is it sad? No, no. Oh, okay. No, no. Because I get to say all of the expletives that I would like to say in the comfort of my living room. And no one gets to film you doing it. That's right. Who do you think would get more nervous before game you or him me you you're freaking out I don't think that he really got nervous really no I mean I guess it makes sense right he did it for 13 years like how do you feel about his flip-flops I'm so used to them it doesn't even faze me I do think it's funny that there's a population of women that are like that's the most appalling thing I've ever seen and I'm out here like really really that's what that's what a turnoff is I actually like that he kind of rolls in they're so disturbed at the fact that they can see his toes and I'm like I've seen worse toes I'm okay with it.

5:41I live with those toes. Like I've seen them up. I sleep next to those toes. Why would I be disturbed with this? They rub up against me occasionally. That's a good answer. Okay, your podcast. Yes. First of all, not going to lie. Congratulations. It is so fucking refreshing and incredible to see a woman up on the charts doing her thing. How have you been feeling about it all? It's interesting to talk to myself. Yeah. I absolutely love the audience that I'm hitting now. I'm so happy that it's settled into the demographic that it was intended for. Like it was intended for women. So sorry, men. I have had quite a few men tell me that they listen, which I think is lovely.

6:26But it's meant for who it's meant for. And I wanted it to settle into that. You want to hit the listeners who you're intending. Okay. I'm going to ask you some questions and you're going to have to tell the truth because obviously you're not going to lie. I love this. Let me dab my upper lip. Yeah. Dab the upper lip. You don't look like you're sweating. That's really great because I'm pretty sure I have like ass, like it's pulling at my ass. That's the worst when you're wearing jeans and somehow you see the sweat through the jeans. That's what's about to happen. You have the asshole sweat. I'm never going to look.

7:02Don't worry. I'll moon your camera before you leave. And you wore a cable knit fucking sweater. To be fair, I was so comfy when I started walking. And the sun here is just... Well, it's humid out there. I'm not even mad about it. Okay. Because I'm pretty sure there's like a snow day back in Philadelphia. I agree. Okay. What is the fastest way to piss you off?

7:39What is the fastest way to piss you off? Oh, lie. When people lie, I'm like, for what purpose? I'm not an overly sensitive person. It takes like a lot for me to be bothered by something. I grew up in a house where like picking on each other was fun. Yeah. So like I can take it. When people lie, I'm like, for what? What did that do for you? What is the most humbling thing that your daughters have said to you recently? Oh, my God. Your belly's big. No. Yes. What do you say when they say that? I'm like, because mom is growing a human being. That's why mom's belly is big. Yeah, they'll humble you all the time.

8:22Like our youngest, it's not too long ago, maybe a couple weeks ago, looked right at me and was like, boobs. And I was like, yes, this was in the morning. I had just gotten out of the shower. I'm like getting dressed. She's sitting on the bed and she goes, boobs? And I said, yes. And she goes, bae? And I was like, okay, guys, there is a human being in here. One of you is in here. I'm trying to give you a sibling. Yeah. Oh my God. And it's going to be four? Yes, four. But like four girls is better than four boys. When I meet boy moms, I'm like, God bless you. God bless. I don't, even my mother-in-law, like my mother-in-law has told me horror stories of, there is a story about my husband when he was little going out in the front yard and Donna, my mother-in-law, heard someone go, he has a knife.

9:15He was in the front yard with the kitchen knives, throwing them up in the air to see if they would stick in the front lawn. Okay. But do you think that younger years it's harder with fur boys, but then when you're, when the girls get to like high school? Oh, I already told my husband he can move out as long as he visits me. That's what I told him. You have to visit me, but you can move out. Like I'm prepared to take the hit. Do you realize, cause you know how you were like in high school. Yes. And I know how I was like in high school. Yes. And no matter what parameter you were at, whether you were crazy or normal, like girls in high school, that shit is horrible.

9:50I always say the only thing worse than high school girls is middle school girls. Period. Yes. What What is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself? Oh. The boy one is the most frequent. I don't know if it's crazy that we're having a boy. Huh. That we tried for a boy. Interesting. Why do you think people are saying that? Because they really want us to have a boy. I will say there was this moment when we found out we were having our fourth girl where I was like, we've always said we wanted four kids. I'm like, maybe I won't get to meet a little Jason, which was a little bit weird. But at the same time, I'm like, if we had a boy at this point, I'm good.

10:31I've gone this long without getting peed on when I open a diaper. I'm trying to keep that streak alive. Maybe we're like good with one Jason. One Jason is enough. I think that's what the universe has said. I agree. How do you feel about the word wag? I don't like it. Why? I don't like it because I think it has a serious negative connotation attached. I think that it's this suggestion that your spouse's profession swallows you up as well. And I have made a serious effort to make sure that, and both Jason and I have made a serious effort to make sure that while he was playing, that it was clear that that was his job.

11:08Interesting. in the same way that someone would go to work and come home and not necessarily talk about their entire day. You're filing taxes. You're doing spreadsheets. You're not coming home and telling your spouse about the spreadsheet you worked out. I agree. I think that now what I appreciate is even like I was telling you before this, speaking to the WAGs yesterday, I appreciate how people are being more vocal about like what they do independently. And I think sometimes it can freak people out when it's like, wait, you're just, even if you are like holding down the household, it's like, people don't understand that these women do have their own independent lives with their husband, obviously.

11:51And I think people like to just be like, no, your, your husband is just like an NFL player. So you just like are in it for the money or the fame or whatever. And And it's like, no, these are like real humans with real lives and feelings. And the vast majority, it's so funny to me because it's like it is that stigma of like you're with them because they make a lot of money. Or like you want designer bags or you want you live in a mansion. It's like, no. I like there have been a number of people who have come to our house and they're like, oh, I'm like, again, not easily offended. I'm like, yep, that's what you get.

12:24What? It's like now that you said your husband would want these chairs, I'm getting it. They would fit. Well, they fit in. They would fit in. Okay. I love you. I love you. Okay. What is a weird item that is always in your bag? That's a good question. For a while, because I was doing like event consulting, I had zip ties in my. Oh, that's weird. That's fucking weird. Because the one day I realized how weird it was when I went to get something, like a chapstick or something. And someone was like, is that a zip tie? And I was like, oh, my God, you think this is like kinkier than it is. So that signs don't fall down.

13:10I agree. If I saw that, I'd be like, what is wrong with that? Kylie, what are you chasing up to with that headboard? Nothing. Nothing. I'm trying to keep signs on walls, guys. It's not that hot. I have since moved on. They are no longer in my bag. That's probably a good look. What is something you used to be embarrassed about but you don't give a fuck about anymore? Oh, my height. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Tell me about that. I was 5 '10 going into high school, taller than every guy in my grade, which can really set you up for some weird feedback from the opposite sex. What did they say? Oh, I was a man.

13:48And like it was all of like the, they felt emasculated by the fact that I was taller than them. Of course. By the time I got to like senior year, I was like, you guys can go fuck yourselves. Truly. And then those little like fucking 5 '8 squirts, you're like, shut the fuck up. Well, the best part is my dad is 6 '9". So like when I would - Your dad is 6 '9"? Yes. And my mom's only 5 '2". So I've never been alarmed at either end of the height spectrum. Oh, that's interesting. So I never realized how tall I was until people started picking on me about how tall I was. It's so infuriating when boys are picking on you in middle school or high school and you're like, it's so.

14:24This is a you problem. Yes. You're so insecure and you're looking at me and you're like, I'm fucking gorgeous. Get away from me. Oh, by senior year, I was like, you guys can suck my ass. You're like, I'm going to wear heels to prom. I mean, you're down there anyway. Have at it. Oh, fuck. That's mean. That was a good one. No, that was good. Okay, wait. Yeah. So you grew up in Philadelphia. Yes. What were you like as a kid? uh well behaved i'm a rule follower really big time rule follower oh if someone's like you can't go there i'm like i can't go there and then like our team will be like kylie you have to you have to say like you're supposed to be in there i wouldn't expect that i'm such a rule follower my husband is the opposite we really compliment each other on that he just busted the door he's like a barrier fuck it i like i'm like there's a sign that says we can't we're not allowed to do that it's kind of like me my husband matt will always be like you just you have to act like you know like you're i can't do if you walk straight through no one's gonna ask you a question oh my god i'm kind of like i don't have a pass i can't go there but it's like i feel like you can just go in but i never could okay that's why do you think we're like that i don't know i'm i don't know if it's i don't know i get anxiety like kids in high school used to be like oh i'm gonna skip this class and i would be like my mom will find out my five foot two mother will wait were your parents strict growing up?

15:41Not really. No. I mean, like I think at the time I would have said yes, but not really. I was like playing sports. So like I wasn't going to house parties regularly because I was, I was had a field hockey tournament to get up for it for the next day. And what was your social life like in high school? Trash. Yeah. I mean, I really like my field hockey team, my club field hockey team were where I like spent the most time on the weekends. Yeah. I was not like a partier. I still am not a partier. I really don't drink. I'm a little hungover. Are you? Yeah. See, I love the idea of getting up the next morning and being like, I can eat breakfast happily and like go about my day.

16:21I love that feeling too. And I wish I felt like that. My husband, I feel like he had that experience this morning. It was like, this is delightful. But for the last like four days, we've been like, are you alive? Does he get hungover? I think he would try. He would like to say no, but he does. He's lying. Okay. Did you ever date in high school? No. No? No. No. When did you have your first kiss? Oh, God. Tell me. Five days before my junior year of high school. So specific. Because I was so alarmed by the fact that I was going to be a junior in high school and had never even like touched lips with another human being.

16:57Wait, how did it happen? I just kissed a guy. You just walked up to him? he literally was like, oh, I'll come over and hang out. And I was like, you can't come over and hang out. Like my dad's here. Okay. So you're your first kiss in high school. Junior year. Yeah. Who was your first boyfriend? When I was, when I graduated high school. What did your parents think about him? He was fine. He was okay. I mean, we, I think we dated for like three months. Okay. But you weren't dating like bad boys. Good guys. No. Good guys. I am not into like the douche. that bothers me that's good um like anything anyone that's like like trying to be cool i'm like no you're disgusting get i mean my husband was in competition jazz band in high school like there is a even though he's a jock there's a degree of nerd wait he was yes he was a saxophone but a barry sax player and like and that speaks to me like that that's like that's what gets me the fact that my husband like i make jokes about my husband not being like a rico suave like not being very smooth like yeah terrible like he'll get hit on by women and i'm like hello she's hitting and he's like no she wasn't i'm like i'm like you're so cute wait that is adorable that's what like that that's what got you going yeah um okay you ended up going to cabrini university yes what was your reputation on campus because that's a small campus right itty bitty yeah tiny the athletes all stuck together so i feel like it was very close-knit i had the same thing like all the best just like your family yes which is i think like i always said whenever people ask me for advice about going to college.

18:28I was like, even if you're not an athlete, like if you can get into a group, you are going to thrive. Like join a fucking, the jazz club or whatever the fuck it is. Because then you have like 20 people already that are your friends. And I had that immediately when I got in there. And then you don't feel like you're like a floundering fish, right? Alone. Did you get into dating? I was dating someone in the beginning of college. Okay, fun. For like a couple of years. Did you go to parties? I would go to parties and be like the designated driver. like I would make sure I was like a mother hen like I would make sure everyone got home oh I love that I still have like college teammates when I see them they'll be like mom like they don't call me by my first name so you've always kind of had that like motherly energy about you and when I went to college I was the 21 year old freshman transfer like I went to community college first got it yep so I was automatically like I was a freshman that could get into bars oh I love that for you because of course I was a rule follower never had a fake ID you never had a faith when i tell you like a rule follower i mean a rule follower okay so what is like the most trouble you've ever gotten in your life you're like i've been arrested actually no i did jail time no no you don't know that i went to prison i'm like what that's so weird you want to see my prison time do you not have you never gotten in that much trouble no the the worst is I, the worst that's ever happened is like I got pulled over from going like 40 in a 25.

19:51Oh my God. And I apologize profusely. Profusely. I can't even look at you right now. I feel like a horrible person. Okay. We're going to play a game. One of your favorite phrases is I have no business doing that. So I'm going to give you a scenario and you tell me if you do it or you have no business doing that. Perfect. Dye your hair platinum blonde. No business. Have you ever dyed your hair? I mean I get highlights but nothing absolutely you could no you look you have really gorgeous hair that's very kind getting a matching tattoo with Jason no I think that's a jinx you do I have no business doing that I do do you have a do you have a matching tattoo absolutely not okay good you're like I think that is such trash and I'm literally like right here we got this on our website no there are I've seen so many ones where I'm like that is the sweetest little like hint of no no do you have a tattoo No.

20:44I don't have any either. I just, it's more of a commitment thing. Like I still have not seen something where I'm like, I want that on my body. I feel the same exact way. I do it. Same. But I'm like, there's nothing that I can even picture for a second that I'm like, this needs to be on me till I'm 90. I changed my mind. I don't know what I want. That's it. Right? Yes. Me in college making a decision of a tattoo. You'd have an infinity symbol. I would hate myself. With a heart. And I would want you to bully me and be like. why do you that's just it i don't the infinity symbol i shout out to the girls that got it on a whim that are living that are with infinity and beyond that's it wait does your husband have tattoos he does not does travis have tattoos i don't think so he jason and travis talked very briefly about getting like their like the kelsey crest oh interesting do you think it's gonna happen no i don't think they should but who am i should i don't think they should either I like I'm not a tattoo person but I I think that I love like women with like little dainty tattoos I think they're so sweet I think that for a guy you either need to be fully committed like you need to be tatted or none at all yeah like lean in or just that's it moving on um film a reality show about your family no business you would never ever never here's the thing you don't want to you don't want to be an hour the reason it hasn't happened we are not that interested i tell people all the time you you catch me on a random tuesday we're gonna be in the kitchen coloring i'm gonna be yelled at about snacks and filling water bottles someone's gonna be screaming from upstairs i'm done pooping and i'm like okay that's actually true is it is it weird for you that so many people are like so fascinated with your lives i feel i seriously i have like a legitimate amount of guilt associated with the fact that people are like, you're amazing.

22:43And I'm like, I'm not. You're like, girl, I'm so sorry to disappoint. When people meet me and they're like, I'm so excited to meet you. I'm like, I'm so sorry to let you down. Kylie. It's just like, I get what you mean though. I think that is something that's so crazy when you meet, when you see people on the internet or in tabloids or whatever the fuck, and you're like, you have this idea and then you meet them. It's like, guys, we're all just like normal human beings. We're all shitting. We're all dealing with life. Like we're all sweating. We have ass sweat. We all put our sweaty pants on the same way.

23:10Thank you. Would you ever attend the Met Gala? No. Good God, no. I wear fucking Chuck Taylors when I'm supposed to dress up, okay? What? No. Oh, my God. Anna Wintour's quaking. Okay. She's like, but I sent you an invitation. She would never. Would you ever throw a Philly's first pitch? No, I have no business doing that. Why? I have no business doing that. No, you do. I'll be on the side. I'll take a ride on the Philly Fanatic four-wheeler. You're not going to throw the ball. I'm not throwing the ball. But you could throw it. Yeah, a thousand – I have full faith that I can throw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:47Okay. Would you ever go on a silent wellness retreat? Maybe. Ask me when I get back to my kids. Right now I'm like, no. Yeah. But when I get back to my kids, there might be four days. Alex, how about that silent wellness retreat? Did you have a connect for that? Where are we going? Dress in disguise to hide from paparazzi. No. No. I probably wouldn't. I'd just flip them off. Love? Love? You're honest? Renew your vows. I don't really feel the need to. It was only seven years ago. I know what I said. I kind of feel the same way. Maybe when we hit like... 20. Yeah. Yeah. 20? Do you think 20 or 30?

24:29Yeah. 30 feels like a milestone. I do think it would be cool with, I mean, we just had like a great time at our wedding. It would be cool to like get everybody back together. Oh, that would be fun. Wait, where did you have your wedding? At the Logan Hotel in Philadelphia. Lovely. Yes. We did a little, a little homestay. Wait, what was the song at your first dance? You Are the Best Thing by Ray LaMontagne. What was your favorite part of your wedding? I loved our ceremony. we had it was like very intimate it felt really nice our dog which was like my soul dog was our flower girl she nailed it she was so good um she's still with she's not she passed away in march oh man i'm so sorry it's okay she's she's uh it was the right decision are you ever gonna get another dog we tried oh okay we still have one oh he's delightful oh dumbass but he's delightful he's not my soul dog he's not what is his name Baloo Baloo Baloo like the bear from the jungle wait our girls call him Bubba you but you're not like vibing with Baloo no I love him now when as soon as Winnie passed I was like okay you will be cool now but like while Winnie was still alive I was like you know Winnie's it oh I get what you're saying I feel that way about my dog Henry right now I'm like I love you Bruce but like Henry is like the OG I wonder if that like affects how they feel about themselves my my oldest daughter well we were talking about like me carrying a baby right now yeah she was like well you had a baby before me and i was like excuse me no and she goes yeah winnie because i've called winnie my firstborn child so many times my oldest daughter thinks that i carried the irish wolfhound in my womb it must be so wild to have children when you say things like as an adult it must take a minute to realize how much shit sticks with them you're like oh you really believed that concept I didn't realize that was like penetrating you in the way that I was just like saying it because it's like a normal statement and now she's like mommy you had a wolf yeah you had a wolf found in your belly you grew Winnie as your first born child let's wait do you have a name obviously you're not gonna tell me but like have you guys talked about if I had any so if I had a name I would tell you I have to but oh okay no I would I'm not know yet so when we were having our first daughter people told me like don't tell people what you're gonna name your kid because then you get reactions and I'm like I don't think you understand I really don't care at that point like if I've chosen we're going with it it's that's it yeah um we had that situation with Wyatt our oldest is Wyatt people are disturbed by the fact that we've named her Wyatt why she's very much a Wyatt anyone that meets her is like oh that's a Wyatt people did not like that you they just feel so annoying like literally shut you know what her emails are going to be answered so fast.

27:18Kiss my ass. Facts. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about your marriage.

27:40Okay. Let's talk about your marriage. Yes. You met Jason on Tinder. I did. Before you matched with him were you like looking for a relationship no we were just messing around we did it like all my friends in college we would like sit around and like swipe together i i would do that too and half of the time if i match with someone i'd be like wait you're better for him like let's go and like you end up going with we would we would get the same people and be like oh did you swipe right on him yeah i swiped right i matched with him swipe right and see if you match and then we would start having conversations that were like parallel conversations half the time also i was doing it just for a social life i'm like let's see do they have parties like let's go like meet anyone you can in college and you're just trying to get like the hookups um i feel like you guys are like literally tinder's biggest success story have they ever reached out to you um right before we got married they did send a care package it was like a lot of like flame merch it was great the perfect match

28:38that is yeah um what was it about his profile that like stuck out to you um he looked like a bigger guy okay uh he was actually there were pictures of him next to people and i was like oh he's kind of like dwarfing them a little bit love which everyone wants to feel like small girl everyone wants that everyone wants that you're like i can just get in there he also his bio which you can still find somewhere on the internet oh that's so good that i love the internet it's somewhere uh was some sarcastic ass like i'm here to make an emotional connection i want to have long talks about like having babies and something else i'm like you're such a dumbass i can't wait to roast the shit out of you do you guys have that type of relationship we will go back and forth very much though it's i i love it because it's like the house i grew up in so i i get that there's comfort obviously i know you've said this before but if my daddy gang doesn't know can you talk about the first who sent the first message and what these messages were no it's so good uh i sent the first message okay um i said i need life alert i've fallen for you and i can't get up kylie that one didn't land very well he was like that's not that great and I was like I love a challenge so then I went back with that this is so bad this is so bad uh if I told you I work for UPS would you let me handle your package and he said yes he said absolutely that's a better one where do you want to go I feel much better about this no yeah we and then were you guys like talking and then you went on a date so then we just had like Like we were messaging for probably like a week and it was great banter.

30:32Okay. And a little bit into the banter, I was like obviously talking to the friends who we would like swipe with. Yeah. And they were like – I was like, I don't know why but this guy looks kind of familiar. Oh. So then we start Googling with all the information we had. Jason, 27, Philadelphia. Oh my God. then I was like he had to have been an athlete because you could just tell by his build so then I'm then I'm looking up like Philadelphia college roster because like you can find anyone on a college roster wait he didn't have a picture of him like in his jersey no oh my god I feel like all the douches on Raya that have their like fucking profile picture with them and like their Ravens jersey it's like he he didn't lead with that years later I said something in front of him about well he had nothing on his profile like no pictures and he was like yes I did I was like no he didn't come to find out one of the photos that he had used was actually a television shot but because of the way tinder uh formatted the picture it chopped everything so then the ticker at the bottom the like graphic at the top that showed that it was a football game was completely cut out and so all it was was like a tight shot of him with like his beard and he was like well groomed and I was like I had I didn't I if now like remembering the picture now you would know but there was no indication okay but that still is like a very big green flag because I do think it's like if you are a professional athlete and you're feeling like you have to lead with your uniform say less you we know what you're out here for I mean I don't here's the thing it's true do Do it.

32:17Oh, yeah. Do your thing. Do your thing. Do your thing. But Jason wasn't doing that. No. Okay. What was your first impression when you met him in person for the first time? He was hammered. Like drunk drunk. Already before. Like were you guys going on a date or you were just going to hang out? I was just going to meet up with him. So after we figured out who he was by Googling. Okay. We thought it was a catfish. My friends and I were like there's no why would he be on Tinder. That's so ridiculous. Oh, that makes sense. So after a couple days he said come and meet us out at this bar. and my friend, you know like you have that friend that's just like ride or die.

32:50Yeah. Like let's go. We got to see how this pans out. She made a great point. It's either going to be a catfish, which is hilarious. Right. Or it's going to be him, also hilarious. Both options are great. We're going to find out. Yep. So we went and met him at a bar in Philly. We walk in and he's sitting at the bar and I'm like, oh, so it's not a catfish. he has since claimed that like it was like a light came like a light came down an angel i'm like no you were fucking shit-faced okay you could barely see out of your eyes were going opposite direction we why did he ever explain like why he was on tinder no i think he was just messing around yeah like he was just like looking but i get what you're saying like people would assume he's a catfish because it's like why is jason on tinder yes but maybe that was like the allure We met before he did like the mummer suit, before all that.

33:45So he was like a little bit quieter then. But even Philadelphia is such a crazy fan base that they know the offensive linemen. So yeah. It's kind of fun. Did anyone notice him when you guys were there? Well, it was after the Eagles Christmas party. So he was there with like a bunch of his teammates. So that's why he was fucking hammered. Yes. Oh, annihilated. And there are like stories after the fact of like what he was doing at the Christmas party. And I'm like, I don't even know how you made it to the bar. But you're like, I don't know how you remembered me. Yes. He remembered me walking in and then at some point tasting the Shirley Temple that I had ordered because it was the only non-alcoholic drink he had had that day.

34:22So he was like, it was the most refreshing sip I had had in what felt like weeks. I love that for Jason. He's like, oh, yeah, thank you so much. Give me some hydration. Yes. Did you have any hesitations about dating a professional athlete? I told no one. Interesting. For months. Why? Because if it was a situation where it was going to be like we hooked up and that was it, I didn't want to be like – because after a few times of hanging out, I was like, shit, you're great. And there's clearly – I like very much am into this. and so I was like if it's just me and it's not him that's into this yeah I want to make sure that I'm not then labeled the bimbo that I get that and that's fucking tough because you're it it correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like when you're in that position you can feel like because they are successful and you're someone in college you're like they do have the power almost and there is a power yeah you're like fuck like I kind of don't want to get my heart broken here and I don't want to look like the idiot because people assume that women are flocking after these people and you just don't want to look dumb yes and I feel like that is a natural feeling that's like hard to admit but it's like the reality of the situation yeah and I didn't want to I didn't want to seem vulnerable in that situation yeah to allow the space like I'm I like I said, not super sensitive.

35:53So I was like, kind of like a, like if this doesn't work out, it's okay. But then it got to like a few times of hanging out and I'm like, well, I would actually be like disappointed. Like I'm, I'm really into him. When did you know you were like absolutely falling in love with him? I mean, probably like two months in. Oh, wow. Because I was just like, we, at the very beginning, we would sit and talk for hours. Like it was insane how long these conversations would go on yeah and it was i we would leave and then it was one of those where like a day later he would be like well what are you doing tomorrow and it was it the hangouts got more and more frequent where we were hanging out back-to-back days and then you know it's like well if we're hanging out back-to-back days he has to like feel something too right when did you guys like tell each other you loved each other like who said it first i said it first were you nervous No.