Lisa Vanderpump: The Queen of Bravo

0:02What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy. Lisa Vanderpump, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Are they ready for this? Probably not. I don't know if they're ready for this. I feel like this is like the matchup that everyone wanted, but maybe didn't know they needed. So people are going to freak out that you're here. Okay, good. I've had Ariana on before during the scandal. Right, okay. And that's the only person... Oh, wait, I've had Stassi on. Oh, yes. We hit it off. But I was like, I was saving the best for last, honestly. Okay. So I'm excited. How are you doing today?

0:36I'm good. But I've been frantically busy doing everything. I've been here, there. I've been in New York doing the upfronts, Gordon Ramsay's show, you know, Food Stars premieres today. I've been doing stuff at Vanderpump Villa, Reunion. I've been in Vegas. I've been in Lake Tahoe because I just opened my new restaurant there. I've been here, there, and everywhere. I'm exhausted just, like, thinking about that. Do you ever have any downtime? I haven't had as much as I would like, for sure. and I think that's important to build it into your schedule but with you know the shows and we have the dog foundation we just had World Dog Day I have a lot of responsibilities so I take that really seriously

1:36I'm thinking about your house, Villa Rosa. Yes, it's a sanctuary. It is the most insane, extravagant place. Like when I see it on the shows, to people that haven't seen it, there are ponies, there are swans. Like it is over the top and amazing and everything you could dream of for a house. If you do have alone time in your house, what are you doing by yourself? Well, I love cooking. So I've made sure my kitchen is absolutely heavenly. Do you remember when I threw Kyle out the house and I kind of put the sledgehammer on there. I was like, fuck it, we're done. This is time for a new era, a song, Kyle.

2:13So I kind of made a kitchen that really, you know, I have the view, the doors open up nicely. There's a fireplace when it's cold. I just really, so I'm very homey in terms of I love doing flowers. I mean, I'm obsessively always kind of, you know, doing flower arranging. there's something about my home that I feels the essence of who I am and it will always be I mean my children grew up saying you know they never heard an argument in our house really yeah I mean I might like punch the shit out of him behind the doors but I just always believed in having that very kind of calming you know I mean I was a little crazy I mean if we weren't dancing on the tables and things like that music plays all the time um and I just really just believe that calm in my life gives me the strength to deal with everything on the outside right it's like when you go home you're in your sanctuary and then you leave and you deal with all the chaos and i would encourage people no matter how hard you work no matter if it's like one room a beautiful place you know create a space where you really feel i think people are so fascinated by you because you have this lavish life but you do work so hard like you said you're not sitting at home yes what would you consider yourself high maintenance or low maintenance well I mean you see I arrived with nobody today except my dog I know I don't have an assistant yet I should have one you don't have an assistant I do my own nails I have my hairs on every six weeks I do my own makeup pretty much but I travel with somebody if we have to look through the camera so now I'm very low maintenance but when it comes to do I need fresh flowers and music and the good wine and I like cooking good food that I have high standards so you're high standards on the vibe but for yourself I can't believe like I was expecting oh god no I don't know if I was expecting a big posse with you I at least thought you would have like maybe three people Lisa I've had musicians come here with 20 people know me and you you I have one dog that travels let's talk about Bravo yes okay because obviously you're such an iconic part of Bravo and with Bravo comes drama yes when all of this was starting in your life when you got on Housewives like did you have any hesitations of doing reality TV um yes I did because in fact I'm having dinner tomorrow night with my friend Sharon Osbourne and so I remember really the essence of reality television was the Osbourne's you know yes prior to that and that seems such a crazy hot mess I would think oh my god as I said I lived in a kind of sanctuary even though we worked hard we lived in a really beautiful house and I had a restaurant Villa Blanca and I was approached a couple of times and I thought we don't really fight I I see the funny side of it well I mean I just I'm not sure that I'm really right for this and they said the form that I filled out when I went into the audition was it's put a line through it and you know I remember they said they have a tape where they say you know tell us about your sex life and I was like what with my husband with everybody else and they were like oh okay so I saw the funny side but I wasn't going to go for the interview because they had they they wanted you to be submitted in groups of people you know like you were a group so these women had put me in a group and and they're women that came to the restaurant and they were they weren't really friendly with me and I thought oh my god no this is not going to work for me at all so then it was Jennifer Stallone Jennifer if you're listening who said to me, oh, come on, you've got to go for it.

5:48Like, go for it. And she made me sit down on their bed and watch the New York housewives. And they were kind of yelling and screaming at each other. And I was like, it's not me at all. Go for it, go for it. So I went in and I had no kind of preconception of what was about to transpire. And they asked me this. I was like, oh, fuck, come on. Are you serious? Do they really think I'm going to sit down and tell them about my sex life when I don't even know them? What planet are they on? Because if you remember, right, in the first episode, they said, Lisa, you know, something about your sex life. And I said, oh, yeah, twice a year, you know, like birthdays at Christmas.

6:23That's not my birthday. You know, it's another day off. And they took it seriously. So suddenly I was on the news talking about having sex twice a year. And I was like, oh, shit, now I better behave. Because, you know, everything they said was being taken literally. But you're so entertaining. And even just that in itself, like, I think people love that. And you're so good at it. I was going to see the world through my eyes, you know. And it was just, I didn't care if everybody judged me. I mean, I set myself up for people to hate me because I was like, you know, I love pink. I had a little dog that I carried around that had, you know, terrible kind of skin problems.

7:00He was always compromised, Chicky, you know, had alopecia and stuff. I used to feed him on a silver platter. You know, I always took the piss out of my husband, you know. So it was just like I set myself up for people to go, she's a fucking lunatic. And guess what? They're right. You think people thought you were a lunatic? Well, I think, you know, I set it, you know, I was this wealthy woman. They didn't know how hard I worked in my life. They didn't know that I fed the homeless every Monday for 12 years. They didn't know I had, you know, charities, you know, that I would support. I'd worked hard my whole life with Ken.

7:34I'd been married forever and a day. And, you know, I was living in this big house. so I love pink I had a little dog I drove around a fuck off car you know what I mean so yes I mean it was easy to be obnoxious I think there's something about also television that like whether it's real or not like you being yourself or playing it up for the camera like it's great tv it's that's what I want to see authenticity when I see Paris Hilton and everything she's going on I'm like I'm entertained yeah I'm entertained yeah and so like I don't think anyone can look at that and hate it like they're maybe their jaws are dropping when they see you feeding your dog on a silver platter and they're like i can't even like afford kibble for my freaking dog yeah but it's like it's aspirational and it's funny wait do you actually only have sex two times a year no um not anymore i mean i used to have at least twice um no no it was a joke I was like, he has to beg, you know, put his knee pads on and call to me and beg.

8:35I remember there was a quote from you and you were like, I had a very strong physical connection with my husband. I met him. I was married within three months. That's not somebody that has sex twice a year. Trust me. That's the other deal. You have such iconic lines. I remember one of your lines was like, I, like my husband calls me the sex object. Like he asked for sex and I object. Yeah, that's true. I know. But, you know, people, I thought if they're going to take it seriously, then they don't understand me. Totally. Is it true? I remember reading somewhere. No, probably not. Let's start with that.

9:09Absolutely not. Oh, by the way, I also don't have a publicist. Okay, please. Because I don't give a shit. What people talk about me is none of my business. I love you. So I don't have a publicist. I mean, I have a lot of publicity, especially with three shows on the air. Right. You know, I've done, oh my God, I don't know what I've done press-wise. but I don't try to control it it is what it is it is and also like I feel like you're seasoned enough we're like you're not going to say something that's going to get you canceled and like also you can't really get canceled like unless you do something so awful that you go to jail I guess that's considered canceled yes I guess which isn't you know no right you're not going to jail um okay I'm curious this was the rumor was like Andy Cohen was like not completely sold with Bravo that they were going to do Beverly Hills oh the housewives love it when you say this go ahead say it say it oh they're all gonna he saw my tape that that they were his words and then it was in the huffington post i think he said it okay tell people the story though no i can't yeah okay so it's too self-indulgent they're his words okay so andy cohen said that he wasn't sold if they wanted to do the beverly hills franchise god i can see the rich it's just spinning right now and then he saw your tape and was like oh i immediately had a vision i immediately know we had to make it and it's like i could see that happening but i'm assuming that pisses the other women off oh i think yeah and then i got vanderpump rules the second season but that was you know that wasn't so much about someone's calling you should we answer yes but oh oh it's kyle saying i just heard that oh i can't imagine it's kyle richards uh no it's my daughter but don't worry don't worry yeah so that's my grandson oh so sweet oh I try to spend every minute of every minute hi sweetie I'm in the middle of an interview be back soon so you don't know if it's true those are Andy's words but I do know no he has said it it is true but um and I understand maybe I was a slightly different flavor also being English and being like having a ridiculous sense of humor and even now I mean I did his I did his watch what happens live the other night and he was like oh my god i really fucking love it and he stopped it do you think you're his favorite housewife i well i mean i think there's a few people that aren't his favorite housewives now after what he's been through and i really vociferously defended him because all those allegations were absolute bullshit they did big investigation um no i think he's got a love for there's a few of us but I think he definitely has connected with me on on many levels and socialized with me that's why it's like if if anybody knew what I was up to Lisa Vannapop was I was like oh my god don't take me down that road it's true but it's true I I knew that he was innocent of all this bullshit yeah and also there's something very reassuring for women about a gold star gay a man that is not attracted to women that you can play with you know you can really i played with andy i'd say very very uh you know like kind of strong sexual innuendos but you know it's not going anywhere oh right right it's a joke or as a straight man you'd have to be careful you know very careful but andy kern is a straight man it's never gonna happen no it's definitely not gonna happen when you're at the center of drama because that is what comes with being on these shows how does it impact you uh well i think i you know when people say oh you didn't turn up for the reunion when you left and I was like no I drew a line in the sand thought that's it I am not going and um I'm not gonna finish this show I said at the beginning of season you know I've been very honest about this I was very involved with the Trevor project and done PSAs for them my only sibling committed suicide I was really like not in good shape I mean if I I've talked about this if I open the fridge you know there wasn't milk in there I'd start to cry it was it was like on that edge all the time and uh for the first time in my life i took some medication some uh antidepressants just to try and get over them and i i was really yeah i was not in good shape when i said okay i'll do vanderpump rules which i started filming just i think three or four days after my brother's funeral so i started that and i thought let's just not talk about it you know but i also don't really have that personal connection on Vanderpump Rules as far as my personal life.

13:32We've always seen me mentoring them and supporting them. So we kind of, you know, got through that. And then they were like, come back to Housewives. I said, I just can't do it anymore. And I think about four or five out of the nine years they'd come for me, you know, where they all gang up and they had this and that. And I'd been at those reunions where I'd sat there, you know, with them all kind of coming at me like, that wasn't funny when you said that, or you did this or you did that and I was just like I'm gonna leave right now when I threw Kyle out the house and I'm never going back when you look back like why do you think so many of the women came for you I don't know I suppose they might have thought I was favored in some way I don't know I really don't know I mean I I think we all know but I would never say it I mean I had band of pump rules given to me my own show as executive producer with the same company and the same um network yeah like in the second season of housewives so that was a huge privilege and then that's gone on for 12 years so maybe suddenly i was sitting on the other side as executive producer with um maybe that you know stimulated certain things i don't know but they they certainly didn't make my life easy on that show i was gonna say i think like naturally anyone a bystander and like is unbiased can just be like oh there's like a lot of jealousy like the fact that you were able to make something so much bigger out of what you were doing it's amazing well i i i just think whenever anybody says that about themselves like oh they're jealous of me it just sounds pathetic of course self-aggrandizing but i just think i was afforded a lot of kind of um and also the audience would nearly always support me yeah so even when they came against me they never had anything so the audience would always kind of rally in my defense and you know i would do these appearances with rose and wine and dog appearances and shelter things in fact i'm doing one this afternoon a shelter thing um and people connected to me you know if it was about my love of dogs our furry friends and if it was about marriage you know having a long marriage if it was about suicide prevention if it was about lgbt issues it was about my son who adopted from foster care that we never really talked about but you know all these issues people would always connect connect with me emotionally and you're funny yeah you're pretty i mean i never think i'm funny i just think i'm telling my side of the story you're just talking and then it goes i'm just talking i have a narrative that runs through my head all time sometimes i actually think i better not say that but very rarely normally just say it Lisa, when do you decide like when it's time to confront someone for drama versus when you're just like, it's not worth my time.

16:26I'm not going to address it. Well, if they're just being ridiculous, maybe let them have their moment, you know, let everybody else tell them. But if I feel somebody is lying to me, that's it. If I feel that, you know, yeah, then I'm going to call them out. That's my killer's heel. Can you give any of the girls listening advice? Like when someone just like doesn't like you and has it out for you, like give us advice. Like how do we handle that? I think you should look at statistics in the world as a woman that's grown up, you know, amongst many, many people. I've not been sitting in an office every day.

17:00I've been like around the restaurant business. There's seven and a half or whatever it is billion people in this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then fuck them. You know what I mean? I mean, I do think also, I do think you should look at things and think, okay, why are they behaving like this? Often it's jealousy. If you can think, okay, they don't have a good reason. Really look at yourself objectively. You know, a friend of mine was going through this relationship and kind of split up their significant other. and I can see this person as a very strong person. I kept saying, maybe you should look at how, you know, what your part is in the relationship.

17:42Sometimes I think, you know, try and have a good look at yourself and your own actions and grow from that. Yeah. But somebody doesn't like you, they don't have to as well. You know, sometimes you feel this kind of visceral reaction that I don't really like that person. Right. Piss off. Bye. Exactly. There's somebody else around the corner. Okay, we're going to play a game. Yes. Never have I ever Bravo edition. If you've ever been in one of these scenarios, tell the story. Okay. Okay. Never have I ever gotten a drink thrown in my face. No, I've been there when one. Oh, no, I wasn't there. That was Brandi Glanville chucking one in Eileen's face.

18:19No, I haven't had a drink thrown in my face. That's amazing. Which owning a bar, that's pretty cool. Have you had one? Have you had one thrown in your face? I have never had one thrown in my face. Have you ever thrown one? I think it's a... Okay, it's common on Bravo, I feel like. Yes, Darcy's done it a few times. Right, everyone's chucking shit in people's face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what is that? No, I normally drink it rather than throw it. If someone's coming for me, I think, oh, I need to drink this. I'll swallow it whole. You're like, oh shit, gotta get drunk. What are they coming at you for?

18:50What is the fastest way to piss you off? A lying to me. Lying. I don't like late either, really. I mean, I know I was 10 minutes late here because I was like juggling with things. I've got to meet you at 11.30 and I was like yeah you've got to delay it but I don't like people I think it's disrespectful when you're late because I think you're basically telling somebody that you know your time is worth much more than theirs I don't like that I appreciate that I appreciate that okay never have I ever known a cast mate's partner was cheating yes I have you have yeah in what circumstance well there was somebody that's recently had this kind of complicated scenario yeah in in one of the shows i'm not telling you and i kind of knew yeah i've known yeah and in that situation did you say something to the person or you just let it be

19:41no i didn't say why didn't you say anything because sometimes people don't want to hear it you know what I find surprising yeah is that they're on a reality show it's like and they're living their lives and I of course all marriages have problems you know anybody that says oh he's perfect my love and then there my king my this I'm like fuck off it's like your husband get real it's like sometimes you want to strangle them sometimes like yeah there's parts of it you know like I'm like if you snore one more time I'm going to put the pillow over your head You know what I mean? Like, you've got a choice here.

20:21It's this spare him, pillow, was divorced. But it's like then suddenly they get divorced, but they've been saying, oh, love me, not my king, not my this, not my that. Life's not like that. You've got two imperfect people living together that it's not, you know, and that's bullshit. And then on the reality show, suddenly, how many times have you seen this? Especially on that show that I used to be on. How many times? Everything's just going, gosh, just fine. and then oh we're getting a divorce oh okay you know or oh we've just separated oh we've separated when it's been going on for months and years right and it's not like you're not being authentic on camera because obviously i also do agree with you though when people are like my honey bunny we're perfect yeah like yeah what the fuck is wrong really going on like i don't believe this for a fucking second honey bunny get the fuck down here like we're so healthy we have so much sex we're so happy yeah exactly yeah exactly let's hear the truth right you know okay we couldn't have we've been married a long time and we have you know a lot of good moments and he's got a sense of humor and he indulges me in so many things like you know luckily he's got the same passions i have the fact we've got seven dogs i mean most men would be like you know he'd never say like you know when you see these guys they go oh does this dog shed it's a dog yes ken would never say anything like that you know like right i'm actually curious when you said you didn't tell the person because they don't want to hear it i feel like a lot of times there's also where you're like because they know yeah sometimes i think right also they're not i often think if you say too much unless then i think that you lose both of them you know what i mean right like if you get involved yeah it's not your place yeah especially if they get back that's when it gets so awkward no but you're right lisa it's like if you told this woman this one sometimes they don't want to believe it so then it comes back on you and then they both hate you yeah or if they do break up and get back together then they're like it's too awkward exactly we can't see you ever yeah exactly this didn't happen so you gotta go away right okay can i it's got to either be kyle or dorit no you're not guessing or doing or saying anything because that is not a headline i'm living with so no it's not either of them it could be but it's not okay fair okay fair okay fair how did it make you feel when people were convinced that you did know about tom and raquel's like affair for so long oh i didn't really even know that did they think that I knew.

23:00Yeah, there was like a conspiracy during all of it. Oh, God, no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't know. I did say, well, hold on a second. You know, in the kitchen that time, I was like, Miss Malibu's in the jacuzzi? And I said, that's not, you know, that's not okay. I mean, and Ariana was vociferous in saying, no, no, no, she's my friend. I'm fine with that. And I said, well, I wouldn't be fine with that if I was away on the other side of town and Miss Malibu was in the jacuzzi with whoever she is, whether it was Raquel or any beauty queen, was in the jacuzzi with my husband when I was away. No, that's not okay.

23:42Is this what we call Raquel now, Miss Malibu? Well, I do. I mean, I'm just saying, or Miss, you know, whoever, Texas, or any gorgeous creature, and I'm on the other side of the country, and she's sitting in the jacuzzi. whether she's got malintent or not my husband would definitely be thinking oh i wonder how long my wife's staying away for you know what i mean it's like yeah no so if i'd known i wouldn't have been saying that yeah you know you're right so i i wouldn't have condoned that if my husband was in a hot tub with a woman yes when you're away dead yeah death yeah exactly get out by yeah penis yeah exactly snip snip yes exactly oops bring it on the highway exactly right so yeah okay and that was and I was calling it I wouldn't have been calling it if I'd known I was saying hold on a second I said you lied she just came in looking like a bag of shit remember for the food tasting yes I said what are you doing you look like a wreck you're late what's going on and they were like oh no we're good friends and you know Ariana was saying oh we're good friends should never do that well you know yeah so but that's also when you feel a gut feeling yeah it's oh it's usually right yeah it's usually my job on that show is to sort this hot mess out so that is something if i had known i would have said hey guys you know that is let's get it together yeah but she was so vocal about defending raquel that i think that's what took it to a whole different level and then raquel asking her about her sex life while she was banging her husband or boyfriend that was one of That was it.

25:16That felt sociopathic to me. That felt like I don't give a fuck about anybody's thoughts or feelings. It doesn't permeate. Right. If anything, I'm like interested to know what like your experience is because I'm having it at the same time. How often does he? Yeah. Like, can you imagine if a woman came up to you and asked you that question? I would immediately be like, what is wrong with you? Yeah. That was sadistic. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah.

26:01never have ever brought the receipts to prove a point in an argument like showed the text message showed the emails oh i think i've done that but i don't know probably on housewives or yeah yeah like I think I'm not I don't really have a paper trail it kind of like other things go by I remember um you know I remember was it something like Lisa Rinna I said oh god I hardly ever speak to you on the first I've got receipts 10 phone calls and I'm like well that's hard yeah you're like 10 phone calls this year is nothing if I liked you I'd have called you 10 times this morning yeah exactly so i don't know it's such nonsense are you good at keeping secrets for people very good yeah very good you're like a vault yeah i love that yeah that's good but it's not because i'm loyal it's because i forget i'm obsessed with you stop they tell you like this deep dark secret a couple months later so hold on a second was it you that oh yes maybe

27:04okay never have i ever participated in swinging no oh but my parents have no way yes wait how did you know well it was the 60s oh my god my father's still alive i hope this doesn't kill him this doesn't go to england does it this is what ends it all stop how did you know your parents were swinging i remember them talking about the 60s you know they were like young newly married and everybody was kind of doing that a bit you know um they didn't give me details I think they gave details to my nephew that one of their grandsons and I was like oh I really don't want to even think about that when I saw um you know John Hamm and I didn't yeah and I heard I didn't I didn't know about his nether regions as well somebody told me that afterwards I was saying John Hamm and they went well you know about John Hamm wait I don't know about John Hamm Oh, yeah.

27:55Does he have a big penis? No, no, but they would talk about it. There's many, I mean, it should have its own Instagram, apparently. I said that, but I mean, there were these pictures of saying. Oh, really? Yeah, no, but it was covered. It was decent, but it was. But it was big. Yeah, but we were laughing. Oh, and you were like, ooh, Ken, should we swing to the left over here with John O 'Hare? No, you'd have to wake me up and give me a cup of tea first. No, no, no, I don't have the energy for swinging. Has anyone ever approached you to swing? I think I might have had hints, you know, but it's kind of insulting.

28:31I would like people to approach me on a daily basis. If you're listening to this, you want to swing, please ask me. No, it's like, I think I was so obsessively, I'm a little jealous as well. I think obsessively in love with my husband, getting married so quick and being so young. You couldn't see him with another woman? No, I don't really want to share him. You'd like be with the... I could have somebody. I don't think that would be quite what he was envisaging. Like, oh, see that really handsome guy over there? Should we swing with him? That's probably not what he would be up for. Or if you're super jealous, you would, like, be with the other woman's, like, husband and you'd be, like, hanging out.

29:10Looking over my shoulder. You'd be like, what is Ken doing? Exactly. I'd be like, oh, my God. Ken. I'd be on all fours. And I'd be like, what? What's he doing? I'd be way more interested in what he was doing than what I was doing. I'm upset no I haven't the answer never have I ever never have ever I'm probably at this stage not going to that's kind of sad it's okay but you know mind you I put it out there now maybe I'll get lots of opportunities oh I bet there's gonna be so many people now so many people oh I'll pass I'd rather have a cup of tea okay okay never have I ever well when you've been married as long as I have like how many let's think so 42 years so that's gonna be like 14 ,000 days roughly oh my god do you think there's anything that I haven't done that I need to do?

29:54Probably not. I mean, there's things I haven't done, but there are things I haven't done that I haven't wanted to do. Have you ever, like, are you? No. No. Go on. I'm like, do you want me to ask you a couple sexual questions? No, not really, but go on. Okay. Never have I ever shared a secret with a castmate, and then they went and shared it on camera. Gosh, I don't remember that. I'm sure it's happened. no but I do remember now I haven't watched Beverly Hills I don't care what anybody says I haven't watched it I've seen sometimes snippets on Twitter where they'll have like a little screen thing and you click on it I think oh I wonder what's going on it was like Erica Jane and Kyle and she said something like Erica Jane said oh you said I'm glad that everybody's gonna see how mean Kathy is or what she's really like you know and Kyle turned around and said yeah but that was supposed between us no no yes and i thought oh my god yeah no but that feels like a theme in reality tv where wasn't it like lala and katie in the reunion it was like lala was upset with katie because she's like you literally said that you were like basically hating on ariana to me off camera and then you're acting all nice on camera i don't like that i think it's just keep it straight And also, as I say, my mind's so full of other things.

31:14I find that it's much easier just to play the one, you know, play it as it is. Because I can't remember what's on camera, what's off camera, what I did yesterday, what I did today. And it's just like when people say, oh, you're lying. My memory's not good enough to lie. I have to speak from experience. You know what I mean? It's like I remember things concisely, you know, absolutely when I experience them. If I'm making it up, I don't remember what I made up. That's a good point. Yeah, no, no. Do you think though now people with social media are getting like too afraid to act certain ways in front of camera because of what like the public and the comments are going to say?

31:48I think the most popular reality stars are people that are truly authentic and don't give a fuck. I mean, I think one of the best reality stars I've ever worked with is James Kennedy and he's got it wrong on so many levels. So good. And he's seen so much growth with him. He's so entertaining. do you think that i still have the infamous scene back in the day when he was talking to lala and they're like yelling about pasta and everyone was like this has to be about drugs this has to be cocaine do you think it's actually about pasta no i think it's not about that uh yeah it's not it's not about the pasta that was one of the funniest scenes i think yeah that is one it was kind of iconic that it was on t-shirts after i don't know really i mean they've both been pretty open yeah and i think i love the duo together i can't imagine those two when they say they've had sex a couple of times it's like that just doesn't seem to me how did they ever get there those two i doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to me either i feel like she's such a woman either you can't text i'm not i'm looking because my meeting's at 11 30 no it's 10 50 yeah you have time 10 51 oh oh my god i actually can't picture lala and him having sex either because i feel like the cup of tea that they offered me when i first came in was so nice said no one ever get you tea no they said would you like anything i said oh cup of tea would be great never happened can someone text charlie for a cup of tea yeah how much tea do you drink during the day a lot probably too much really yeah but more tea than alcohol which is kind of unique do you spike your tea a little bit what with alcohol yeah no that was quite is that a good idea no i don't think i don't drink in the day very rarely you never see me drink i think you can spike your tea a couple times and see where it takes you lisa well yeah yeah i got here without it really i probably don't need it do you think you'll ever be friends with any of the women again from housewives let me think about that no no um well i think if there's a true apology and actually somebody says, you know what, I really regret it and I'm really sorry I said that and I know I tried to humiliate you or whatever, then yes, there would always be room but you'll never get that from them.

34:04Are you someone that holds grudges? Yeah, I do. Fuck off. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to hold a grudge. I mean, I won't hold a grudge till it's like, if it's detrimental to me. If it's like, you know, if it's eating away at you and you're angry about it, then I think you've got to sort it out. But, if holding a grudge is mean I'm done and I don't want to, because I know who you are. I see who you are. You don't have the best intention for me. Now that's a grudge, but if it's something that's eating away at you, that you have that feeling, that's not healthy. I'd rather get rid of that. Like I haven't really been angry about, you know, housewives.

34:42I mean, I get asked about it a lot. I really very rarely ever bring it up myself, but if it was eating away at me or something like that, then I think, okay, I need to sort this out. So I would always say that. as advice if it's eating away yeah you need to deal with it but if you could actually go oh i'm done and if that's a grudge yeah hold it hold it tightly i completely agree because i feel like a grudge for me i'm like i want to normalize having grudges more if you know what someone is even if they apologize to me sure clear the air but i still don't like you yeah and that's exactly that's okay because if i thought you were a good person and you weren't i got it wrong before now Now you've shown me the old expression, you know, fool me once, fool me twice.

35:19But or shame on shame on you, shame on me. You know, that's so no, that's a grudge. Yeah, I'm all about that. I'm all about like, I'm not going to be stupid. You know, it's just like if somebody screws you financially in business, you're not going to lend them money again. How about that? Period. Right. OK, let's talk about Vanderpump Rules. Your mistakes. My girl. OK, the original cast were employed at your restaurant. Yes. and you were their boss yes what is the most insane thing you've had to fire someone for oh all kinds of things over the years running restaurants i mean of course the shagging in the back and everything i mean god i mean that's uh stealing and um stealing of course not on vanderpump rules i mean in the restaurant business i've seen so many things just even with people coming in i mean imagine you have your house open and you have maybe a thousand people come through that door every night at some point you're gonna go what the fuck how often are they not just that but where's my where's the big mirror in my bathroom how did they get it out there during lunch you know stupid shit you know like you think oh my god um yeah there's been a lot of creative ways of stealing that we've caught you know that you think um you know people bring their own liquor and things like that um yeah i mean stealing a mirror and why yeah yeah many that's insane yeah many different things okay i didn't realize that sir stands for sexy unique restaurant it doesn't start we just put that up next to it but it was south in spanish because remember i bought into that restaurant when it was about a tenth of the size to get my visa because I was in the restaurant business and we wanted to stay here so we thought do what we know best yeah okay what is your most sexy and unique quality Lisa um I'm very tactile I mean you saw the way I make out with my dog imagine that like you know like I am like a very yeah listen you see the way I do flowers you see the way I run a business you see the way I decorate you see where I'm with my dog you see the way i am i'm like a perfectionist so of course as a lover and this isn't to those people that want to swing with me because you'd i'd really be a big disappointment but i'm talking about in the past if there are a couple of people that approach me to swing forget it i'm too lazy for that now but i'm a perfectionist so i think even making love i could be a perfectionist oh lisa right that was a good answer that's sexy isn't it even you're thinking oh my god yeah that's i'm just trying to picture it i'm like oh my god it's so sexual okay that's a good answer okay if you had to pick which vanderpump rules cast member were you most like in your 20s any cast member from all seasons i think i'm quite a lot like starcy in a way i'm not chucking people chucking drinks in people's faces but I was always kind of out for Stassi sees the funny side Stassi um you know it was such a disappointment to me when she was let go but it was a sign of the times everybody was you know reacting to what was going on in the world and I agree I understood that but I think that if we all look back on what we did when we were younger you know like everybody makes so many mistakes yeah I think that's the whole point of growth you know and as i say in this new show gordon ramsey show seeing people how they developed oh my god how i saw the growth in the show of people like they came in like this and they left like this right so that's to me one of the most exciting things and i think stars is taking it and run with it which i i think is great i agree i think she had like one of the most iconic like character arcs in that show of just like how she started with jacks i don't give a fuck and i'm gonna say exactly what I want to say.

39:22That makes for the best TV. Like you said, James Kennedy. Yeah. No apologies. Yeah. Um, that group over the years has been like, kind of like a little incestuous. Like everyone's kind of getting a little. They've all shagged each other. Oh my God. A little. What's a lot that according to you, please define any greater incest than I have shown you in that group please i was trying to be like okay just like calm about it don't try and be anything just tell it how it is what is your stance on like that concept of like homie hopping of like everyone kind of like getting with each other's friends and getting with each other's boyfriends and girlfriends well i mean there's only a few dynamics left too like that it's all done who would we need to hook up um lala and schwartz do you think it would ever happen i wouldn't mind that actually i wouldn't mind that you wouldn't i mean schwartz is very kind he's kind but like he can't stand up for shit i know and lala needs someone to be like yeah i agree with you i back you he can't even like back his himself yeah but maybe you could just carry the baby around and say yes and cuddle and stuff i've always found him adorable i know he got it totally wrong

40:50there's been a lot of drama over the years but obviously the biggest thing was scandoval that took the internet ariana got a lot of heat this season because she didn't want to film with tom in specific moments like what is your take on that whole thing well I think it was just because the juxtaposition of her living with him and then saying no I won't have that conversation with him that was what was frustrating I think maybe if she'd drawn a line in the sand said that's it I don't want to see him ever again hope he falls off the side of a cliff um but you know it was it was all very you know I I wasn't on Tom's side at all but I was on the side of empathy and when the whole world was against him.

41:28I've talked about this many times, sitting at the White House Correspondents' Dinner and they bring it up, sitting in Adele's concert, they bring it up, seeing it on CNN's headline, it was kind of, the punishment didn't befit the crime. And I mean, of course, I don't condone what he did in any shape or form, but I think when the whole world's against you, sometimes it's a very dangerous thing for, as I saw with my brother, and you feel there's no way out at that time and the overrear, you know. So when he sat and told me, I wouldn't use all of it, But he sat and told me and I said as an executive producer, guys, you have to use this.

41:59You have to be honest and show him, you know, in this moment of just like the suicide ideation scared me. Now, whether some people say, you know, oh, he's acting or oh, it's not true. It's not authentic. I don't give a shit. I have experienced suicide firsthand with my brother. And for me, I'd rather not take that chance. So I felt that he he did so many great things as well for people over the years. I mean, you know, I was talking to Israel. Do you remember Israel, who actually now works for me? He was telling me how when he used to sleep on the floor, Sandoval used to pay his rent so he wouldn't, you know.

42:35So Sandoval has a lot of good components. Do you, he has a girlfriend now, right? Yes. How can, do you think he's going to cheat on her? Yes.

42:50I don't know. Maybe this is the one. No. Maybe this is the one. I don't think that Sandoval, from my knowledge, is that sexually motivated. Because I think he said that I just don't think he's that kind of guy. You know where there's a lot of guys that's going to shag anything. I don't think he's like that. But I think this girl apparently is gorgeous. Oh. No, I thought the tea was coming. Is it coming? So is Christmas. They're working on it. I think they probably didn't know if they were allowed to interrupt. Because sometimes I'm like, lock the door, don't come in here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

43:28I'm like, get out of my studio. Oh, okay. Let's talk about you being what kind of boss are you? I'm like, I'm locking myself in this room. Don't bother me. Because I don't want to interrupt. That's good. What if you were saying something so brilliant and the door open? Probably not going to happen. I feel like it kind of ended this season and it was like, the friend group is a disaster. We've been in that place before. But do you think it's going to continue? you like well i think the thing is with this show is i think that people feel very attached to it because they've grown up with it and there's been at some point somebody will identify with one of them in the group and i think that it will be hard for people really to let it go so do i think it would be back yes do i think it needs to breathe yes am i totally busy and so you know opening another restaurant yes so i think let's just give it a minute let everybody live their life i have a pitch for you go on then i say no because yeah i think i'm so busy but i think that the next season of vanderpump yes should be you getting everyone in a room yes and firing all swinging oh no swinging you're like lala get over here katie get over here and you fire all of them yeah and you push them to a different show that's more like grown up or whatever and you bring a whole new cast in and you start fresh and everyone works at sir and it's all young talent and these kids like have no instagram following yet and you start fresh like i would die to watch kids back in at sir like trying to make it in the acting or modeling agency and like get back at it and i have many of them but i do have three shows on the air i know i know but i'm living la so i'm like addicted to the la but i know i know you know what from your mouth to god's ears that might be a thought can you imagine the season here's your tea what is this oh my god black tea with milk green tea or herbal tea black tea with milk i like your dungarees i said that when i came in i like your dungarees yeah what do you what do you call overalls overalls no they're dungarees yeah which one black tea and milk try it try them all i'm worried about it i'm worried about it too you know i never understand why people leave the tea bag in it what do they say expect us to chew on it my assistant's gonna fucking start crying she's literally like okay let's try it black tea and milk yeah you can just throw it on the side table it doesn't matter yeah i mean i like the color of the cup it's pink it's cute yeah but the teas a disaster awful oh it's you wanted it black no i wanted it lighter like the color of the wood it's a disaster oh i love this tea no said no one ever no my assistant's crying in the corner now it's better nothing i loved her dungarees i told her i love her dungarees we say overalls in with overalls overall overall i love her overalls oh my god you like it wait say you like speak with american accent all the time wait yes you like that say cheeseburger cheeseburger oh this really works for me say donut i love call her daddy donut i love call her daddy or do you like it like this donut i love call her daddy so do you like my pitch i can't say but you like it it's not necessarily your pitch somebody might have got there before you oh okay but like the drama of everyone getting fired oh i'm not gonna start opening i i have a loyalty to these people but you wouldn't actually be firing Welcome back.

47:17I've signed you back just for one episode. Bye. No. There are still stories to tell. Oh, Lisa. Okay. What projects? Obviously, this season is wrapped. So talk to me about your other projects. Gordon Ramsay, that was epic working with him for two months. I mean, Gordon's like a lot to handle. So I thought, okay. But we knew each other before. So I knew that it was going to be backwards and forwards. But I think for him, it was very different. because normally he's the authoritarian and everything he does and then he met me so yeah it's definitely a different show did you put him in his place well yeah i kind of enjoyed doing that a little bit oh you got a little actually not a little bit a lot a lot okay last two questions what is the best part and worst part of essentially living your life on tv um i don't like it when people lie about you that's the worst part the best part there are so many beautiful things that have been forever documented good times bad times my daughter's wedding my little grandbaby crawling across you know the carpet like I mean when we filmed him you know just once or twice Vanderpump Villa seeing the beauty and the experience that we all had there wonderful wonderful moments really really my my life hasn't changed that much not like some people when they you know on television i mean of course the fame and everything but i spent a lot of time at home i'm still in my restaurants um but you know when you met me on television i had a beautiful house i'd had 37 restaurants prior to that that we'd sold you know and um i had a you know a nice lifestyle it wasn't like some people they start and then they get this incredible lifestyle and don't know how to handle it my life materially hasn't changed you're you're Yeah.