Maria Georgas: I Made Out with My Boyfriend’s Mistress (FBF)

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1:58What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Maria Georges, welcome to Call Her Daddy. I am so excited to be here. I love you so much. Okay. I love you. I love you. I'm so excited. I I can't believe we're finally doing this. First of all, this has been a long time coming, which we will tell the daddy gang all about, but the entire world fell in love with you when you went on the season of the bachelor and ever since it ended, I feel like everyone has quite literally just been waiting patiently for you to speak and you are finally here. Yes. So I definitely needed the time to just be on my own but if I was going to speak I was going to speak here with you today on Call Her Daddy and I it was a long time coming but I'm here now and I'm ready.

2:49Okay I have so many questions so let's just get into it. Okay before you continue this is really tight and I want to slip into something a little bit more comfortable. Okay. Oh my god.

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6:16okay okay she's got her little unwell outfit on oh i'm feeling so myself right now you have no idea wait really oh my god this is me to my core okay but every single outfit you slayed this season like for anyone that didn't watch this season maria on the bachelor i don't know if i've ever seen someone come with like such good outfits and i feel like i saw that all online how did you even pack for this fucking season oh my god it was so last minute you guys have no idea so I I always wanted to be on the show I had dreams about it I was like I'm gonna be on the show one day so I remember like I would always buy things in hopes stop I swear to god I'm not even kidding and so when I actually got like I was like fully in the running they're like okay you're like in it um but I was never getting a solid yes I was like waiting waiting waiting three days prior they're like pack your bags you're coming you need this isn't this I'm like holy shit I had three days to pack why did you always want to be on The Bachelor I love the show okay I love the show I was such a huge fan and um I had friends on the show and they did yeah wait I feel like that's tea I will I mean I don't know how much I want to say I feel like there's been you know people have talked about it and I'm sure people know who but yeah I've had people that have been on the show that have always said like I see you on it and yeah and so I was like I'm gonna apply so you've roman are you insinuating you've like romantically dabbled with people on the show I wouldn't say romantic but obviously there was like um I don't know what you want to call it whatever you want to call it it was just like a good thing going and yeah and I just remember talking to him about it and he was like I can totally see you know what he said to me actually should i be asking you like who you're talking about no you shouldn't do you want me to say i think i have to ask well i mean i think it's been fairly obvious and i honestly i'm so over the rumors and stuff like that so nick obvious oh fuck but this is bad because he's like totally married no i think that's so it's not you're saying you're like in love with this person yeah nothing has ever happened between nick and i but like it's always been like a friendship okay but but this no no I think this is fine to say Nick is one of the biggest people from the franchise and the fact that like you had like a little thing with him back in the day yeah but you never hooked up no you just had like a flirtatious banter literally that is all like he helped me through breakups like he was a good friend to me at points and it was great but I remember and I and I never really understood it until actually being on the show he had said to me he's like I can see you being the villain he's like you're gonna go on you're gonna be the villain and I was like why why me like I would never go with the intention of becoming a villain I didn't go in there try to piss people off but I remember him saying he's like people are gonna come after you no matter what I can just see it you're gonna be the villain and it was just funny because after I finished filming there was rumors about me being a villain I'm like but I wasn't I know what happened well I feel like just to sum it up again for anyone that didn't watch like i feel like people tried really really really really really really fucking hard to make you the villain and then everyone in america watching it was like no like no she's not the villain actually like yeah these girls that are basically gaslighting maria are the villain okay let's go back to the beginning i love how you were just like dropping bombs left yeah okay but i think that i think it's fine to say the nick vial thing i think he's like happily married now and that's great yeah and i think and i just want everyone to know that like there's no animosity between between us like I think we have always been friends obviously whatever but um yeah he's always been great to me and like I respect his relationship I respect where he is now I'm happy to see him grow um but yeah to say that we didn't have a past that would be a lie so like I just hate this like it's been all over Reddit I'm just wanting people to know that like it's nothing serious yeah but also we respected each other along the way and I'm happy where he's at now and I congratulate him.

10:22Well, I was going to say, I also think the internet is too smart nowadays where it's like, if you were connected to anyone in bachelor nation, exactly. So I think it'd be like, you'd be like remiss to not bring it up because then everyone would be like, you're a liar. Right. And I have nothing to hide. Like I go through life where I feel like I have, you want to ask me questions? I want to answer. No, no. Really? Can you tell? I can tell. Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? Like at the end of the day, I'm like, I rather speak on it than people build or create stories out of nothing. There's nothing to talk about there.

10:56Amazing. Literally. So let's talk about your season. Okay. You are one of the most popular, I would say bachelor contestants in the history of ever. And you just like brought this energy to it, this relatability. You were normal. I think people could be like, see themselves being friends with you. You're a girl's girl. Like it was great vibes. how did you feel about all this attention? Oh my God. First of all, thank you for saying that. Like that meant a lot because I was actually talking this, talking about this with my friends. Like when I had first come back home, I had to sit my family down to let them know like what, what kind of like shit stupidity I went through in the house.

11:33I did not know how it was going to like play out and like how people were going to perceive me because in the house, I felt like I was so wrongfully accused of things and people were just like taking me the wrong way. And so I didn't know how things were going to play out. The fact that it was an honest edit, I can say, and like showed exactly who I am. And I said to myself, I'm like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this like exactly who I am. I'm not going on there with some alter ego. Like, no, no, no. I'm going to, when my friends and family are going to watch, they're going to be like, that's my Maria.

12:04Prior to this show. Yeah. Were you someone who was used to a lot of drama in your life the and I talked about this on the show to Joey I was like the last thing I thought I was gonna have problems with were the girls I thought I was gonna be like them I thought the only problem I would have is if I like him or not or if we can really see each other like becoming something right and so when that was my biggest concern in the house I was like oh my god I maybe that guy was right maybe maybe it's like in in wait okay you want to hear something actually I actually have something to say. Yes. This is actually kind of fucked up.

12:39Okay. So Sydney, you know, Sydney. No. So in the house. Oh, the one that was. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So funny enough. No, actually, side note. I don't know if you want to keep this in, but this is actually kind of like concerned me at one point. So when it first started like airing, I remember someone sent me a photo of Nick and Sydney together. They were all friends because Sydney's friends with Ashley. I and Nick's close with Ashley and Ashley's close with Sydney. And they were all in a photo together. I'm like was this all planned no I'm not kidding besides all this right now I'm like straight shooter to you right now part of me was like was this all planned because I was like I did I knew I was innocent like I knew I was innocent hand to God so when this all started happening and then imagine dealing with that in the house and then coming out and seeing that she's friends with Nick I was like right because Nick had told you there's something conspiring here okay so you walk someone through that maybe didn't watch the show you're basically saying you're seeing nick vial like tell you you're gonna potentially be the villain yes then you're seeing nick vial be friends with the girl that attacked you the whole season okay keep the shit in because you know what i'm not kidding i was this was my exact thought process i was like there's something weird about all this because it was too close like it was too close to home i was like this what was said and now this and this because if there was a if guys if there was a moment in the house where i can say okay i deserve that i would say i would not even begin to think about this but i was so innocent to someone that has no idea what the fuck we're talking about and has not watched the season of the bachelor yeah you have these two specific women i would say three three okay three women that were like hell bent on crucifying you oh yeah can you give like a brief synopsis of like what they were trying to like basically kill you for yeah so um there's a point in time where we see medina she was one of the older girls i don't even like to say older here we go the age thing but she she had mentioned that she felt insecure about her age and um that she was losing time and she thought you know it was joey maybe might have not been giving her enough attention because of her age um and i stayed silent during that conversation she kind of like addressed the room about it and then why did i say and land and then i don't know um so then we were outside and kind of we have breaks you know throughout the day but we're always being recorded and i knew that so despite having a break i know like we're being recorded but again i was in the moment with my friend and we were kind of like um going through what was like said or during that moment we were kind of just like what's the word we're just like recapping recapping thank you very much that moment and all I said to her was like I don't get why Medina would say that because like I'm in her age group and I'm just saying like she's she's a beautiful woman like literally so beautiful where I was like I couldn't even fathom the idea that she was thinking that it had something to do with her age why Joey's not giving her attention I'm like you're so beautiful own it like you have so much going for you you have the age is the last thing you should worry about.

15:50But I wasn't saying that to Medina. I was saying that to my friend as we were recapping the night. And that's why I was like, I want to preface by saying like, if Medina had come to me and said to me, Maria, I feel insecure my age. I know you're like one of the older girls in the house too. Like, this is how I feel. I would never say, own it. You're hot. Like I would be like, no, let's talk about it. This is how you feel. I'm here for you. You know? So obviously I was saying what I was saying to my friend behind closed doors and I was being overheard by Sydney. and instead of a coming up to me to be like hey are you talking about medina because she's my girl instead of like either coming up to me or talking to me one-on-one to be like hey i might have heard this but i don't know if she started this entire thing on something she might have heard so that's where it all kind of started though and i think like what we can acknowledge for women is like age is such a sensitive thing just because everyone makes us feel like when you hit 30 it's like oh the top the clock is ticking yeah and so I empathize with what she was saying and then I also agree with what you were saying of like oh my god girl like don't even fucking worry you're hot you're beautiful you're young like 30 is young yeah 31 is young yeah 40 is young yeah like we have to like retrain our brains to look at like women and age in a complete different way but I think on the show it brought up a really interesting conversation that you were almost villainized for like shitting on this woman for her age.

17:14And that was not what you were saying. Absolutely. And like everything you said was absolutely right. And for me, I'm like, I can get insecure about my age too, a hundred percent. And I have felt insecure about it, but going into the bachelor, knowing that there's that, you know, sometimes they cast 23 year olds and stuff like that. I knew going into it where I was like, I probably am going to be the oldest one in the house. So I was trying to think pause positively so that like, I didn't get into that mindset so I thought in ways like I was trying in ways when I was talking to my friend about it I was trying to encourage myself too because like yeah hearing her talk about that you don't think that struck a chord with me I was like fuck maybe like like because I am a year older than him maybe that is weird I don't know I started like thinking I was like no no like we're gonna twist it no we're hot we're confident let's just do this like got it and I was just having a talk with my girlfriend I didn't think it was going to become a thing I wasn't trying to do this in front of a room like I would have been way more sensitive, way more like, you know.

18:10Yeah, you were almost like debriefing something that clearly related. Because how old is she? She's 31. Okay, she's 31. And how old are you? 29. Okay, I'm 29. Yeah. Same age. So I get what you're saying is like you guys were the oldest in the house. And you immediately saw her freaking out and getting insecure that you were like, oh my God, like should I be insecure? No, we're fucking beautiful. Let's go. Let's just turn this into a positive right now. Got it. Because it's so, you know, in the house you're so isolated. and you I can see why she was feeling those things but I I kind of wanted to like because imagine if I just sat there and was like yeah we are we should just like peace out right now us old fucks like let's let's just get the fuck out of here but I was trying to just like and again if she had come to me personally the conversation would have been different it was just in the moment with my friend I was just like yeah and so this kind of begins this feud between you and this girl Sydney where she like has it out for you yeah she's literally saying you're like the devil oh yeah it's funny I brought devil ears because I knew we were going to be filming during Halloween and I wore the devil ears like for a week straight they cut that out so maybe you don't talk about that but like I loved it I was like because they told me they're like yeah you know she sees you as the devil I'm like amazing and in parts I was like wait but what like I was questioning myself why do you think this girl had it out for you like you said you barely got into drama your whole life with women like your biggest concern was like am I gonna even like Joey like why even get along with him yes what do you think if you had to pinpoint it brought it on this season yeah so I on because now getting to know her outside of this she's an amazing woman and I and I honestly can say that in that moment she really truly thought she was going to bat for her friend um and like again it's so weird to say like these girls become our best friends but when you're in that environment you become very close to people and that's how it feels right so So I truly think that she was feeling she was going to bat for her friend.

20:07She was that ride or die friend. She wasn't going to like let anything slide with the best intentions, just wrongly guided. I don't really know why, because I guys, when I tell you, you know, she had apologized to me there and then when we I was like, listen, you overheard something. You took it out of context. It wasn't meant maliciously. Next time, you know, come to me. She's like, absolutely. We cheers. The next day we had that group date where we were doing the talent show. And she hugged me before the group date. And she was like, Maria, I just want to say again, I'm sorry for taking something out of context.

20:43It wasn't shown. We never even got to talk about this. And so I thought, I was like, wow, okay, you know what? And I said to her that day, I go, listen, I'm good to hug it out. And like, we're good. But just you scare me a little bit because we were so good up until the point where you're starting shit with me where I'm like, where is this coming from? So we hugged it out. We were good. later on that night is when she was like I feel bullied by you you hugged me earlier that day it was like guys when I say it was crazy it was crazy but again because I know she is a good person deep down I think that again in this environment it just brought out the worst well because I was gonna say like I I didn't know you guys were close now which is not close but we're good you're good yeah okay because I was gonna say I thought I didn't know if you guys were like friends and I'm like that's kind of crazy to go from someone being like you're bullying me like the what we watched on tv I was like this girl is like losing her mind on national tv and it's like everywhere you would go she would turn to you and just start like going after you and it felt very targeted yeah it got to points where she would acknowledge that like I can't even be in a room with Maria because I feel she's gonna attack me and there's been so many scenes of us in a room and I'm like leave me alone what so like I didn't understand I and to this day like you know her and I didn't get to really talk about what exactly it was that made her say those things about me because I could I like even thinking about putting myself in her head I could never say that about someone if I knew that it was so untrue well I think what was interesting too and I liked reading the internet during your season because I thought that women had really interesting takes about you like I remember watching and so many women were like I feel like half of these girls in the house are having their first bi experience because everyone is falling in love with Maria and everyone's like do I like her more than Joey I think there was also a lot of jealousy like you exude confidence you like walked in every room you looked so fucking hot you looked insane in your outfits you have a great personality and you just led with confidence and I think in those environments I can imagine if women are seeing one woman lead with just like no doubts or fears you're gonna be like fuck you I wish I was like that and I personally felt like a lot of it was driven by jealousy which sucks yeah but I think is sadly relatable if you could go back is there anything you would have handled differently in all the drama well I just want to say something first so before going into the house I had read something and it was like some book and it was called you're just not that you're there's it was like you're not that great or something like that and then just like no no no but wait a great book I no no but you know what the the the the meaning behind it meant something to me and it was just like acknowledging the fact that you're not that great and like I never no wait just wait I don't ever think of myself as like like when you say like like it's weird to me even believing when someone's like oh someone's jealous of you like I don't look at things like that.

23:45Like I went into this bachelor world being like, I'm not going to be the prettiest girl in the room. I'm not going to be the best dress. I'm not going to be the most like exciting to look at or be with. Like I just said, I'm going to be myself. And if it works, it works. Like I was so self-aware going into it. So it's funny that like people see it as like confidence and people see it as like, Oh, girls are jealous of you. It's like, I genuinely went in there being like, I'm going to be supportive of everyone around, but I'm not also not going to think I'm not great like I want to like now I love this message at first I was like where are we going with it I fucking suck I'm a piece of shit but like just acknowledging that like you know like just knowing who you are like I'm not I'm not overly confident in that way where I'm like I'm the shit I've never thought that way about myself um I thought all the women were especially night one going into that house I was like there are so many beautiful women around me that I was like I'm just gonna be myself have fun and then if it works it works and it did yeah and like so when girls came after me and being like oh she like people are seeing it as like oh you were so confident that's why I'm like oh my god I was like I never once I think I was the prettiest in the room never once did I think I was the best dress that's why after it aired and hearing that like everyone loved my outfits and like everyone thought I was so confident I was like damn I love everything you just said and I truly believe though that's where it is confidence what you're talking about and it's I think it's enviable and I think if anyone takes anything from this episode it's that it's like you deciding I can't be what I'm not I'm gonna be myself I'm me I look how I look I act how I act and like I'm gonna present as I am and if he likes it and they like it great if not who gives a fuck first I do want to talk a little bit about your personal life because I think you came into this bachelor world and everyone was like, who is this firecracker?

25:38Like, who is this girl? And where did she came from? Who is Maria? Have you ever been in love before? I've obviously, okay, I had a couple of boyfriends. I'm gonna say two. Two boyfriends. I'm gonna tell you exactly the number. Yeah, I don't have that much experience. I always, like when I'm with someone, I feel loving feelings. But like to like, when you're out of it, you kind of think back and you're like, wait, was I even in love? I don't know. I don't think so. Because I want to believe when I am, I know it's going to be my person kind of thing. I had loving feelings for everyone that I've ever been with.

26:16Yep. Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think that, no, I think, I think that answers it. I think you would know if you had been in love. Right? You would think. You would know. Okay. Trust me. That's what I'm thinking. You would know. Okay. What has been your longest relationship? Oh, bitch. You're going to call me right out. literally my my first boyfriend was like eight months but i lived with him for three so it felt like a fucking century but um what okay maybe no i don't know okay listen i have never had anything long term i'm an i'm a problem no i'm the problem wait you live with him for three months yeah towards the end of the eight months and then is that what ended it the beginning you'll be wait wait hold on hold on you it's been so long it was like seven years ago you dated a guy for eight months you lived with him for three but how did you start living together then stay together but not live together walk me through this okay hold on okay let me think it was so long ago guys it was like seven years ago um we dated and hit it off right away okay and he was living alone i I was living with my family and he was like, I want to be with you all the time.

27:28So come sleep at my house. And then it turned into me ended up moving, like ending up moving in with him. Does that make sense? And then how did you move out? He cheated on me. Wait.

27:42Bitch, what do you think? Why did you cheat on me? Wait, but make this make sense. Okay. Eight months dating. First three months you're living together. Yeah. He then cheats. you stay no no no no cheating happens towards the end honey okay okay so why did you move out it was just because he cheated on me oh okay okay you got your timeline mixed up you said you lived together in the first three months uh-huh okay wait maybe i'm confused you're hold on wait let me let me backtrack eight months together eight months together living with him okay so not i didn't live with him right away you're right okay you caught me i lied in your life than you know about okay so he cheats how did you find out he cheated oh bitch no tell me everything oh my god I'm a Virgo do you know what Virgos are like no tell me more I'm an FBI agent oh like without being an FBI agent yeah so basically so because I was living with him right at the time anyways so he was in New York with his family I'll never forget this this is actually kind of fucked up okay but it's okay you know what him and I we laugh about this because he found he's like I hope you know I know I knew what you did the entire time we talked about it listen it's better to just laugh it off now but it wasn't a laughing moment at the time but we can laugh about it now anyway so he was in New York with his dad and then um he was like yeah so I was staying at his place stupid yeah anyways so I'm with I have all my friends over and I remember I was in LA and then Vegas for a wedding I did like a week trip and he was so oh my god Nick plays into this because he hated Nick and Nick hated him.

29:19Fuck that guy though now because he cheated on me, but it's fine. Um, so, okay, let me get back on track. Hold on. Okay. So I, um, so I had gone on that trip and he was already questioning me being on that trip being like, you're going there to see him. I'm like, bitch, I'm going to a fucking wedding. Like, what is your issue? And we're spending a couple more nights in LA after, after Vegas. I lied. We went to Vegas first and then we did the wedding in LA. Okay. There it is. It's come on seven years. I haven't talked about this shit ever. It's great. Um, and so he was already upset with the whole trip.

29:50I get back. We're good. He goes to New York. I stay at his place and I invite my friends over. I had this weird feeling because the last couple of nights in LA, he was kind of like quiet, like wasn't really speaking to me. I'm like, bitch, you're my boyfriend. Where the, where the fuck? Anyways, no, not like that. I'm very sweet. I'm just like, I get what you're saying. When a boyfriend is quiet, you know what the hell you're checking in on me and then all of a sudden you're quiet for the next couple days what's going on what the hell's going on so I remember me like okay so I I know I kept that in my notes I was like okay so this time this time he was kind of weird sketch so I get to his place I'm staying he leaves I go to the front desk this is actually kind of smart girls pay attention so I go to the front desk I'm like oh my god I left for my trip but I as I was waiting for my uber um or whatever I was waiting I don't know what I said I'm like I left my purse on the couch So right outside of his place, there's a like a communal area and there was a couch.

30:46And I was like, I left my purse there and I can't find my purse. I'm like, I need you to like I was sitting here between this time and this time. And I told him the times where I felt like he was being off. So he's the poor front desk man. And by the way, man, I never outed you, even though when you knew I knew what he knew what I was doing in that moment. I'll explain. But I never outed him ever to my ex. But now I'm outing you. But it's OK. You're probably not even working there anymore. um so so i i told him i'm like from this time this time i remember i was sitting there but i don't know where this purse went and it's like expensive purse i need to know where it is so he's going he turns the the fucking screen to me and he's going through the times and i and i told him he's so he's a little it's fine i told him between i think i said from 11 p.m till 3 a.m i'm like i don't know if you have to check to see if my purse was there and if someone took it so he's showing me okay and I had my girlfriend there I'll never forget she fucking screwed it up I was like game face I was like show me the fucking cameras so I was looking for my purse all of a sudden guys I'll I kid you not 3 20 I remember the time three it was like something 3 a.m 3 20 don't say that I remember the time it's kind of weird but it's fine um a fucking bitch shows up to his door no three something a.m and then I'm going like this this is me I'm like this i keep my mouth shut my friend goes and then he so now the front desk guy sees that there's another girl i hate me showing up at this time and then as soon as she fucking gasped like outing me he turns the camera he's like i i can't be doing this i i'm sorry i i whatever i was like i was like no no no don't don't worry and he in that moment knew that that he knew that what i was trying to do and and he knew that now he outed my boyfriend for having a girl show up at his place at 3 a.m.

32:29while I was gone. But in that moment, I went, no, no fucking way. And so it gets worse. So I kept my mouth shut. You didn't say anything? No, of course not. The poor front desk man. No, I never outed him until this day. I'm so sorry, sir. But to this day, never outed him. Never outed him. I go back in. You know, actually, it's kind of funny. I went for a walk. I played some music. I pretend I was like in a music video, like sad, cried. I don't know. I don't know what shit but then I went back and then so days later he comes back we're good he throws a party okay okay guys listen to this it gets fucked so he throws a party oh my god poor guy he's probably like gonna watch this and be like listen at the end of the day don't cheat on your girlfriend because one day she's gonna live to tell the tale she's gonna live to tell the fucking tale so don't cheat on your girlfriend um anyways so he throws a party family friends and remember I saw that bitch I saw her oh you're gonna you're gonna wait for the twist at the end so I saw her so I I knew how she looked he throws a party friends family and friends at his restaurant he's selling a restaurant oops cut that out because that'll be very obvious okay who let's be real I only had one fucking ex and everyone knows it's fine but cut it out maybe I don't know keep it in do whatever you want um so so he throws a party family and friends there's a separate table of like randoms that I don't know who shows up she does but I keep myself I keep my mouth shut I see him go over to her hug or kiss her so I go perfect that's my in so he comes back I'm like who's that girl that you kiss on the cheek like like who's that it's like oh she's just a friend like I was just saying hi I'm like okay that was a little like a little much to say hi to a friend right so I'm watching her watching her so later on that night I was like fuck it I'm done I'm done I'm so out like the fact that he's now bringing this girl around me that's the most fucked up part casually and how long had you waited to like how long is this between you see a week you saw the video footage yeah yeah yeah it wasn't long I just didn't know how I was gonna like like do it but I was out at that point.

34:24No, but that's like, that's mentally fucked to put your fucking mistress in the same room with your girl. I actually have more tea. Oh my God. It just keeps flowing. Oh shit. So basically, cause when he was showing me the cameras, I saw a bunch of guys go in first, all his friends. And then she showed up like hours later at like 3am, but they were like, I didn't see the friends leave. So I was in my head, I was like, okay, maybe this might not be what I think it is. And like, he's already thinking I'm seeing Nick and now there was so many things where I was like okay I can't overthink because if you're looking at it just based on like what you like how it looks I want to know proof but anyways right but cut that out no make him look bad it's fine no no but I get but okay but I was in my head I was kind of like fuck maybe maybe not you're rationalizing which I was rationalizing you were telling him I'm not cheating on you with Nick I'm not seeing Nick I'm literally going to a wedding but he's like I know you have a past with him blah blah blah then he starts acting sketchy and in your mind you're like is he making this decision because he thinks i was being shady with me when i wasn't right and then all of a sudden you see her at 3 a.m and then your brain rationalizes even though you goddamn know well what he was doing showing up at 3 a.m by herself she's there for the after party oh we know what the after party was right yeah okay yeah his his peepee his peepee and her fucking punani yeah 100 anyways so i saw her there and again i didn't say anything whatever and then we got back to the house and i'm like who's that girl and he he would just come being like she was a friend she's a friend I'm like so then why and I laid all out there I was like why did she show up at your house at this time this date in a red dress I was like saying it all and he to this day to this day will say nothing ever happened but want to hear some funny shit please so as a Virgo right yeah we're very thorough so I need to get to the nitty-gritty I need to know I was never going to get my answer from him, you know?

36:09So I, okay. So I, I dance. Okay. I take heel classes and I do all that. So I met a girlfriend there and she was going out one night and she texted me. She's like, come meet me. I go, who you out with? She sends me a photo. She's with that girl. No. So I go, perfect. Oh, just wait. So I'm like, perfect. I'm gonna meet this girl. But again, I wasn't going to go meet her with the intentions to be confrontational. I was just going to see who this girl is. I want to meet you. I want to look you dead in the eye. You know me, I don't know you. You don't know that I know you, but I know you. Anyways, we hit it off.

36:41Love her. Love her. Sweetest fucking girl ever. So nice. That makes it so much worse. You're like, fuck. Yeah, she was great. And did she know you were dating him? Well, I mean, do you have an Instagram? It was very fairly obvious. Like, there was no excuse on her end. But at the end of the day, I'll never blame the girl. Ever. He owed something to me. And you never know what they say in the moment. Like, oh, we're on a break. Yeah. Oh, she's like, you don't have to blame. what i mean oh to this day i am not upset with her oh actually i'm great friends with her oh so but you know what i mean like i always think about like when women are like oh my god my husband cheated and fuck this woman and i'm like i swear to god when a man takes off his pants and he's hard and he's staring at a woman and the woman's like wait don't you have a wife or don't you have a girlfriend they're like she just got run over by a bus she's dead she we buried her last week like she beats me at night where she beats me it's the whole thing yeah they will say whatever they when they look down and they look up they're like whatever i can do to get inside yep absolutely so we can't blame the women yep yeah okay so so you're tap dancing so we're we're friends we become friends at night and then to the point where like we're like hanging out and we're us three hanging out to the point where i even okay this is actually psychotic yeah go ahead go ahead it's call our daddy nothing is that crazy okay so i i one night we were all out and i was a little drunk and i'm like i need to see if this girl's a good kisser only because i was like i want to see sorry i'm obsessed with you i was like no i want to know what the fuck she has that I don't that like this all happened so I made out with her one night but to this day like we were totally it was all jokes whatever it's fine I love women I love men I love men more but it's fine it's fine I just did it for my own sanity again Virgos we're fucked like you wanted to understand what you were missing right I wanted to know what he was dealing with if I had anything like I don't know I don't know what the hell I just did it because I need to do it she knows all this now okay okay so then so then so we became friends like really good friends like we're all good whatever and one night she calls me okay guys listen to this and mind you I had broken up with him I said what I said to him he denied it he doesn't know now that I'm like having a friendship with this girl okay she calls me she's like Maria I need to see you I'm like yeah come over she comes over she starts to cry she's like I have to be honest about something she's like Maria I love you like you're such a good person like I just like I feel like I need to be honest about something I go let me stop you right there I knew this entire time it was like a whole like this could be a movie this could be a movie and I just be the whole episode oh my god I know right anyways no just long long story short I just basically said to her I'm like listen like I met you with intention to see who you were as a person I loved you that night you were so fun so sweet like at the end of the day I didn't hold anything against you because my ex he was supposed to respect me and like not do that shit to me.

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41:13Next level makeup, the skincare that keeps you glowing like it's your full time job. Shop the newest hottest beauty only at Sephora. Joey. Oh, back to Joey. Back to Joey. Yeah. Joey the bachelor. Yeah. So you had never brought a guy home in your life. Is this real? That became OK, here's the thing. OK, I think we're it's like the semantics of it. It's like, yes, have men met my dad and like my, like my parents? Yes. My ex met my parents, but have I ever brought them into my home where my, like my family met like, no. Yeah. But like, have they met my parents and the people that matter? Yeah, sure.

41:53Did I introduce them to my brothers? No. Like, like the entire family? No, but my parents? Yes. And like my friends? Absolutely always. But like the idea of just like, it was just, just, yeah, I didn't bring them home but it doesn't mean that they weren't like yeah acquainted with my parents and like people that matter to me it just like it was the idea of just like it's the first guy that i'm gonna introduce to everyone all at once got it does that make sense yes completely okay do you think you and joey would have actually made it in the real world um it would have been greatest friends like we were so um like funny together where we like like the same movies like had the same banter.

42:36And we obviously liked each other, but I don't know. I don't know. I think him and Kelsey make such a good match because he was always one to always kind of need reassurance. Does that mean to say? It's not mean to say because that's what he was very vocal about on the season. And I think that Kelsey's the kind of woman that gives it to him, but also is very confident and gets it too from him. I don't know. They work so perfectly together. I don't know how to explain it but um I've never seen two people so into each other it just worked I don't know if I could have given him what exactly what he wanted all the time and so um I don't know but I I think that we were great friends yeah what's something that a guy could do that would immediately give you the ick oof dance oh shit I don't you know here's the thing I don't mind okay you know you know have you ever seen those guys who like start breaking out into dance but they're so bad but they think they're so good when are they breaking out into dance like give me that's the problem they do no wait like where bitch anywhere there's a fucking tune i don't know here's the thing here's the thing like but here's the thing this is where the difference lies like when they're dancing but being silly and like just owning that they're bad but there's some that are so bad but they think they're good yeah that's where i get the the full ick that's where i'm like oh my god you're not it no that's that makes sense okay what's the craziest thing an ex has ever done to you date 32 women at the same time sorry bachelor wait I thought you oh my god I didn't I didn't get that at first I was like yeah this happened more than once in my life no just the bachelor I literally did okay oh my god yeah can we talk about that how did you deal with the jealousy okay so here's the thing and i'm gonna be very very honest with you in that moment

44:37you should always say whatever comes to your brain sweetie i'm on a roll tonight um it's one o 'clock in the afternoon i'm gonna be honest about something i know tonight whatever today so i'm gonna be honest with something so jen and i okay jen and i so jen kissed him on the group date. Okay. I went up to her because I just like, you know, when you're very self-aware, like, you know, your place and things. And I just knew Joey and I were never going to be end game. Yes. Could I have made it further? Sure. A hundred percent. Like we had that connection. I just didn't think I was going to be end game and he was going to be end game for me.