Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s (FBF)

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1:27You have a hard out. Yeah. When are you leaving? At three. Okay. So we have about 12 minutes to go. Here we go. We're going to, I'm just kidding. Everyone listening, calm down, sit down. Okay. By the time this comes out, Thanksgiving will be over. What are you guys doing for the holidays? Christmas, New Year's, what are your plans? What are we doing? Thanksgiving I host every year. I do the whole family and everyone's extended families, friends come over. It's a big thing in my house and I do it every year. Are you cooking? I don't cook on Thanksgiving. I cook every other day of the year. I cook 364 days a year, not Thanksgiving.

2:05Why? Because I'm just being a gorge host and that is a job within itself. Love. What about you, Paris? I'm going to be hosting as well at my house this year so all the family is coming and we're having a big family get together and then we're going to go to Maui after Christmas oh fun are you cooking no I love to cook as well but Thanksgiving is like hardcore that's like a lot I agree it's too hardcore and I'm like entertaining people and I've got like it's too much I cooked a turkey once on my cooking show cooking with Paris and it was traumatizing just like pulling all the things out of it just like not for you no we are gonna get to know you guys better today so paris how would you describe nicole's personality

2:58nicole is hilarious fun i was not gonna say that i was gonna be crazy but not in a not in like a bad way i accept the good She's just the most fun person in the world. Like when you're with her, you just laugh every second. She's so real, she's kind, and she's beautiful. Okay, now how would you describe Paris? I would actually describe you as kind of the same. You're so fun. We always have the most wild time and are always laughing. You are also extremely tender, sentimental. Um, and just like always wanting everyone around you to be happy and stunning, bitch. Thanks, bitch.

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5:51Okay. Let's go back to your childhood. You guys grew up in the same neighborhood. Is that correct? Yes. And you guys went to the same school. Yep. What was your first impression of each other do you remember well we were two so I don't know um two yes we've been I didn't know you guys knew each other since you were two yes and so you guys were just inseparable since the moment you guys were like getting raised together from day one so we went to the same school but we also we had the same piano teacher outside of school we had we like had our tap recital together orchestra oh my god and then we graduated on to orchestra and we love our orchestra teacher Mr.

6:27Hauser who's in shout out to Mr. Hauser who I'm sure watches this all the time. Obviously he's obsessed with you guys. And he's actually in the encore. Nicole what do you think your reputation was in your town and at school growing up? Okay well I did get class clown in both of my schools. Okay what do you think your reputation was? Just like sweet

6:51Yeah Darling. Nice angel never gets in trouble what do you think the parents in your town thought of you of like all the kids in high school were you like when you were younger or even in middle school what were people thinking in middle school like nicole and i were only allowed to sleep at each other's houses it wasn't like we were ever staying at all the other sleepovers we weren't allowed okay so we didn't know the parents probably as well because our parents were really strict yeah and they just like didn't let us do all the things. And like we also used to get treated as one. So like if the leader of our group got mad at one of us, both of us were out.

7:29That's so nice to have a friend like that where you're like, it's both of us or none of us. Yeah. I mean, we didn't even choose it. It just happened. And then all of a sudden, like we were back in and we were like, OK, we is it true that you guys had your first kiss at the same party? Yes. Yeah. Tell me the story. It was at Samantha Colker's house. that was the first one that was the second the Vegas one oh okay because I remember we were at some party second second this was like 6th grade spin the bottle and we both kissed like these two best friends yeah Bert and Jared yeah cute Bert and Jared Bert and Jared wait what age were you for your second kiss Vegas 14 You guys are not real.

8:18Who the fuck is going to Vegas at 14? We were. You too. We were. Wait, what were you doing in Vegas? We went. This is actually we were not 14. We were younger. But we were. We've been going our whole lives. Yeah. Her parents were going to Vegas. Okay. My parents were getting divorced. And so I, as any, you know, up and coming teenager would do, I told my mom I was going to my dad's. I told my dad I was staying with my mom. And I went to Vegas and we would like her parents would go to parties and we loved this musical called Starlight Express. And we would sneak into the show and we would just like watch it at night.

9:03And then during the day we would take taxis and leave the strip and go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores. and we would get like ferrets and chinchillas and then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here. And when did you kiss these, I'm assuming, men, boys? No, they were like, yeah. Like 10th grade. How did you meet them in Vegas from our school? At the chinchilla farm? No, I don't think they came with us to go get the chinchillas. So you had your second kiss in Vegas? Yeah. Kind of romantic. Very romantic. and was that Burton what was his name they did not make the trip no okay who had the stricter parents growing up I know you're saying they're both strict but like who was like really hard to go to whose house so like you're you know you're not sneaking out if you go to ex's house well I had security um at the house so that I've never I was never sneaking out was not even an option that was impossible your house my house was easier even though my mom was strict yeah or no it was Your dad's was the easiest.

10:09My dad's was the easiest. He was always like on tour. Yeah, he was gone. So that was fun. The way this is like so casually, you realize that childhood is like you guys have like the craziest, coolest childhood, right? We lived a normal childhood too. Yeah. As you're saying, second kiss in Vegas. Smuggling ferrets. Okay, I'm going to play a game with you guys because I think this is going to like really, we're gonna get to know you a lot here ready okay who would the better 2000s wardrobe me

10:472000 and what like I don't know wardrobe too but mine was just like so so 2000 like just the so extra of it all yeah you are very 2000s yeah yeah I love it if you guys had to pick one 2000s trend to wear for the rest of your lives what would it be I would never do such a thing okay I would wear all my 21st birthday dress love yeah I think you said that to me last time you love that fucking dress I love it where is that dress in my closet love how honest were you guys when you were younger with each other when like they had a horrible outfit on I feel like we always looked so hot and we would dress like twins a lot because her mom would buy us like two of the same outfit always and we were like obsessed with doing that back in the day yeah we had to wear uniforms in school And then the summer program was called Summer Games.

11:39And my mom would buy like six of the shirts that we would have to wear. And she would put shoulder pads in them. This is late 80s. Shoulder pads in them and bedazzle them. And so we would like, we would always dress as twins. And then when we were a little bit older, like once we were 11, we would go to Contempo Casuals and Judy's. And our parents would like treat us like twins. They would buy us like, remember the burgundy bell-bottom dress? The velvet. That was so cute. Yes. We have to rewind. Why shoulder pads? Because it was the 80s and like that's just what. It was cool? It was very cool.

12:13Yes. Who was the bigger shopaholic? I would say you're very like, you're like a little more like manic and you're like, you're like, I want it all, right? It's my ADHD as well. I just, I love it all. But I do love to shop. Okay. Who has the worst dating history? Me. Yeah. Yeah. Does that feel right? Yeah. Who was more delusional over guys when you guys were younger? I would say me because my first real boyfriend's AOL name was Pleya for the number four life and I was devastated and shocked to my core when he cheated on me. I couldn't believe it. I was like, where were the signs? How did you find out he cheated?

13:03So he cheated on me. Three times. Once was on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland. And I know this because every time I ride, I go to myself. Playa 2245. What was his handle? Playa. Playa for life. Playa for life. P-L-A-Y-A. At AOL. At AOL.com. Email him. Anyone wants to email him. Email him. I'm sure he's still around. Okay. Peter Pan ride. Peter Pan ride. And then one of the girls. So I had like heard about it. I asked him. He obviously said no. And then one of the girls was really nice and got on the phone with me and told me. And she was like, he said that you guys were broken up. I'm so sorry.

13:46And then this is when conference conference had just gotten where like you could if you had like the elevated conference, you could still get call waiting while you were on conference with somebody else. so we called him on conference he obviously was like I'm not I'm not gonna admit anything and then we had someone call her so she got a call waiting flipped to the other call came back and then he admitted it horrible yes you moved on um yeah I mean I moved on but I was like it was there I was really shook I was like I cannot believe I got cheated getting cheated on sucks oh it's horrible it's horrible have you gotten cheated on every girl has I know that's really terrible guys are assholes it's horrible it's horrible what is a bad way that you found out so you found out from a girl coming to you have you found out a different way tmz

14:42paris no yeah what do you do when you see that online just so pissed just like it's obviously hurts but also just like mad just like how could you humiliate me like this Are you a confrontational person where you would be like calling them or you're over? No, I'm like done. And then I hate confrontation. So I just would rather never speak to the person. If I would like break up with someone, I wouldn't even tell them. I just like never just leave. Just like ghost. I feel like, Nicole, you're confrontational. No. Yeah. No, I wanted it to be like a major motion picture, like a punishment. a real thing.

15:25Tell me. Yeah, I was like, I know. But I waited until like I was that was fun, kind of. It is fun when you look back and you're not like in the moment. It's fun to look back at the heartbreak. But when you're in it, you're like when you're in it, it's so devastating. You can't survive. It affects you for life completely. I actually saw one of the girls at a party and I was like, you know, you like rile yourself up and your friends are like, what are you going to, what are you going to do? She's coming. She's coming. And I was like, I'm going to beat her up. Okay. I've never hit anyone in my life.

16:01And then like, finally, like, you know, you're saying it for so long and then she got there. So the whole party was like, Nicole, she's here. She's here. And I was like, ah, and I like walked up to her. I don't even know what I thought I was going to do. And her friend literally just went like this. Bing. And I flew across the party. I'd have a chance. And anyway, we ended up going to college together. So she's my friend. Kind of. You're like, bye. Never mind. Wait, now you're friends. Yeah. I mean, I haven't seen her in like loose. Yeah. Yeah. But if I saw her, I'd be like, oh, my God. Yeah. Play up for life.

16:34Play up for life. Yeah. Who was the bigger flirt back then? You. Yeah. Yeah. Love. I would flirt, but it was more to like humiliate them like more than like an aggressive not in like a like sweet yeah I wasn't you're going to ruin your life and then some um when the two of you guys would be out like would you be the person that would go up to the guys like if you're at a club you guys want to like infiltrate a table are you going up no everyone was trying to infiltrate our table okay we didn't have to go up to anyone they just wanted to come up to us I have to say our focus wasn't really like guys We didn't have to.

17:12That was not like we always just wanted to have fun. Have fun. And then the guys would come and you're like, oh, this is nice. Like, this is a fun little thing. Yeah. Did you guys ever fall for the same person or like the same person ever? We said opposite taste. OK, tell me what was your type back then? People who cheat, I guess.

17:33Assholes. Yeah. Assholes, I guess. Play us. What was your type? Just people who are cute. Paris or hot no no no you think you were dating nice guys no not like cute like like looks wise like just people people who are hot and some people were good but there was it's LA so yeah yeah yeah you get both we didn't you say once in the simple life that you liked men to look like they were dying yes yes I did say that if I saw a bunch of like people that you talked to when you were younger like did they there was there a theme of them actually looking like skinny and frail and ill no I mean I I sadly I think I just said that to like gross Janet out I don't think I really meant it um I'm obsessed with you so you weren't you weren't going for like a specific looks wise type no um whose husband is more likely to crash a girl's night out do you guys ever go out together Crash a girls night out.

18:36Joel, I think, would get annoyed at like so many girls all at one time. Yeah. Carter never goes out. So neither of them are coming. I don't think they're coming. Wait, how did you meet Joel? A friend set us up. Yeah. Wait, had you ever like dabbled with musicians at that point? No, I had not dabbled with musicians. But our friend set us up not in a serious way at all. She was like, you're single and he's single. So this is probably not going to be serious, but you guys should hang out. And and we did. And I don't know if you've met Joel before. I think you did because quickly. Yes, yes, yes. But Joel is very shy, very shy.

19:22Yes. So the first night I met him, he actually didn't speak to me. And I was like, this is my husband. Yeah. you're like this is how i know it's like this is the man for me stop and do you think he was at first yes he ended up text not texting yeah or email i don't know whatever yeah whatever was happening back then aol play it for life um what was your aim um okay okay um my first name was princess nr because i had a dog named princess okay then um i got a second name ballerina girl nr because ballerina girl is a song that my dad wrote and the song is after me so i just like made that my my name okay so anyway one day i was like we were exchanging um screen names or whatever like to to like a group of friends and it was this is like when it was new so we were like calling each other by their names you know and I was like and so like we sat there for an hour and everyone was like okay later like whatever whatever later da da da and I was like and then they looked at me and they go see you later baller in a girl and I said no whoa whoa whoa No.

20:47Baller in a girl. I said, I cannot believe for a straight hour you thought that my name was baller in a girl. So now some of my friends still call me that. Baller in a girl. Baller in a girl. That anyone would think that that would be my screen name. Imagine you calling yourself a baller. Yeah. And honestly, I have ever since. What was yours? Beautiful blonde baby girl. are you fucking lying no beautiful blonde baby girl yeah i am obsessed my email name yes yeah that's one of them other one's princess ph another one's barbie 420 so wait so you're emailing people it's like from beautiful blonde baby girl that is like you have to have some confidence.

21:39Paris. Yes. Love. Yeah. Love. Baller and a girl and beautiful blonde. Jesus Christ.

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23:54It was. What did you think of them together? I loved it. You did. Yeah. I just thought they were so cute. It was on dot com from the day we hung out. Joel is so sweet. He's so loyal. Like he's just one of those types of guys that's like completely different than like an LA guy. Yeah. Love. Were you a fan of Good Charlotte? I was a fan of Good Charlotte. And he also when he asked me to go to his house, he hates when I tell this story. He asked me. He was like, do you want to come? He was like, do you want to come over and like watch TV? And I was like, yeah, I do. And he goes, do you watch The Wire?

24:29I've never seen The Wire in my life. I go, The Wire is my favorite show. He goes, great. Why don't you come over and watch it? Now, listen, obviously The Wire is an amazing show. Okay. I'm not dissing The Wire, but okay. I'm a girl. He just like threw me into like season three. There's no music. And I, for a very long time pretended like I watched and loved The Wire. When did you break it to him? I think like a few years after. Years? Yeah, we had kids. Nicole. But we have since rewatched The Wire. It's one of and Joel's from Baltimore. Joel's from Maryland. So it's like it's one of our go to shows.

25:12But it always reminds me of when we first met because I really threw myself into that show. It is crazy. like I have done the same thing where I've like lied about liking something for a guy and I'm like then you get yourself into it and you're like I didn't think so deep in right you're like I didn't think it would go this far and then you're like they're gonna think I'm a full liar if I admit to this because like I've been watching like I'm on the seventh episode and I'm like oh my god he's so funny yeah I didn't know he was gonna say do you want to watch it tomorrow I was like oh god okay great see you there Paris what have you ever lied to like like something for a guy and then been like why the fuck did I do that like sports sometimes are you a big sports person or not at all no like I like playing sports like I like playing ice hockey I like going to ice hockey games I just some games are boring and I just don't like it um okay sorry back to my game um who is throwing the best party I don't really I don't throw parties I don't like people in my not like wild parties like you would throw parties I throw crazy parties I love you do the time I interviewed you were setting up for a Christmas party oh my god that was almost a year ago how insane is that I don't know times went too fast you throw great parties you don't like people I throw parties now but when I was younger I did not throw like wild parties at my house because you just didn't want people around you in your house yeah I didn't want anyone like stealing my things or anything you don't care if people are like wandering in your house no I don't want people stealing my things either but sometimes people do there's like people have literally taken like framed photos and put them in their purses my security has been like went up to them been like excuse me can I have that dude that's fucking insane people like feel and especially if people like get a drink in them they feel like I love this place and they start like doing weird shit in your house yeah and like lighting cigarettes like ashing all over the floor I'm like are you like I have children that live here no no no that's not the vibe okay um which Which one of you is more likely when you were younger to like pull through with plans for the night?

27:13You're like, I've got the spot. I know where we're going. It was like a schedule. It was a schedule. Yeah. Let me do the schedule. Like Mondays was Joseph's. Right. What is Joseph's? Tuesdays was like guys. Wednesdays was Las Palmas. Yep. Thursdays was like Concord or LAX. Yeah. There was just all these clubs. It was like a schedule. You would just go like where all your friends went and that's what we would do. Would you guys go out every single night? not Saturdays and Sundays those days are for losers

27:47what we Saturday and I feel like Saturday is like the night no that's loserville what was the best night to go out Thursday yeah learning so much Nicole what is your wildest interaction with paparazzi once I was hospitalized I got crashed into oh I didn't know that yeah oh my god you were driving and someone crashed into you yes I'm so sorry yeah my son was like six weeks old he was not in the car thank god thank god yeah when you look back at that like how do you feel about that time in your life um I feel like at the time you it was very hard to um implement any sort of like boundaries because the world was not really acting like you deserved that at all um and I was so young and just like didn't know how to stand up for myself like that so I was just like I was just I like I accepted a lot more which I think is very common for your 20s of just like accepting that things that that I would never accept now that's traumatizing I know obviously like you've talked about it occasionally of like not occasionally a lot like you've been very outspoken in a good way of like this is really dangerous of like what those people were doing back in the day um and then it's kind of fucked up when people are like yeah but you guys were asking for it like you loved it like what do you say to that i don't say i'm like if that's what you want to believe yeah do it fuck off i don't fucking care what is one of the crazier experiences you've had with paparazzi well just when i used to live on king's road like right above sunset the plaza they would just wait outside my house from morning till night and just follow me from the second I woke up till I went home at night and there would be some times where I would wanting to go to a friend's house and I didn't want them knowing their address so I would literally be driving like 100 miles per hour just trying to get away from them there'd be 20 cars all chasing me and I just remember just like sometimes turning around just like guys like leave me the fuck alone and they would just not stop so that would just drive me crazy because it would just get so dangerous with like all these like strange men just like following me all the time or like going through my trash or people like jumping over the gate and just like it was just so invasive all the time no that like creates like an intense form of paranoia I'm sure like you can't you have to worry about what you put in your trash everything just like them shooting through the windows just like it was just creepy I'm so happy I live in a gated community now because it's just like and your gated community when I tried to find your house Paris there's no cell service there and I literally was like hello and then I'm like this freak driving down there's like a man like walking dog I was like I'm trying to go to Paris Hilton's house he's like we've got a freak on the loose he probably was like breaking it no your house is you are you're good to go you're safe um okay sorry to bring that down for a second but it is interesting to hear about like what you guys had to go through um okay I know this is like vague but if you can try to give the daddy gang a story what do you think is one of the most iconic nights out that you guys had together when you look back and you're like fuck that was insane like the two of us went all out it was so fun or something horrible happened or something disastrous or fun or funny like anything we did go through a stage where we would wear shoes with wheels on them um and we would roller skate all night and I This was at the same time I had my ball python Cleopatra and she would come with me as well.

31:18What? So I had a ball python. Her name was Cleopatra. She was Gorge. And I would wear her around my neck like a necklace. And we'd put on our shoes with wheels and we would like roller skate all night. Would you go out with this? With Cleopatra? Of course. You would go in public with a snake around you? As a choker. Yes, like a little collar. Like a collar necklace.

31:44wait and no one stopped you stop me from what being gorge

31:52oh my god you never were like oh my god my python is about to fucking rip the necks of everyone around me no no she no she loved being with me she was so i miss her okay so are you you're talking about heelys right or no these are different no this is like pre-heelys yeah You were whipping. Yeah. Would you ever wear them to the club? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're in the club with Healy? Yes. Basically, she's a... Yes. Because you could press the button and they would go in and out. They would just like... Yeah. So we would come and like swoop-dee-doo all night. I'm obsessed. They were great for like getting away from creepy guys.