Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s

0:02What is up daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with call her daddy. Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thanks bitch. Thank you. I am so happy we're finally doing this. Okay how are you guys doing today? I'm doing fab. How are you? You have a hard out. Yeah. When are you leaving? At three. Okay so we have about 12 minutes to go. Here we go. We're gonna I'm just kidding. Everyone listening calm down sit down. Okay by the time this comes out Thanksgiving will be over. What are you guys doing for the holidays? Chris Mika New Year's, what are your plans? What are we doing?

0:41Thanksgiving, I host every year. Oh. I do the whole family and everyone's extended families, friends come over. It's a big thing in my house and I do it every year. Are you cooking? I don't cook on Thanksgiving. I cook every other day of the year. I cook 364 days a year, not Thanksgiving. Why? Because I'm just being a gorge host and that is a job within itself. Love. What about you, Paris? I'm going to be hosting as well at my house this year. So all the family is coming and we're having a big family get together. And then we're going to go to Maui after Christmas. Oh, fun. Are you cooking? No.

1:23I love to cook as well. But Thanksgiving is like hardcore. That's like a lot. I agree. It's too hardcore. And I'm like entertaining people. And And I've got like, it's too much. I cooked a turkey once on my cooking show, Cooking with Paris, and it was traumatizing. Just like pulling all the things out of it. Not for you. No. We are going to get to know you guys better today. So, Paris, how would you describe Nicole's personality?

1:54Nicole is hilarious, fun. I was not gonna say that I was gonna be crazy but not in a not in like a bad way I accept the good way she's just the most fun person in the world like when you're with her you just laugh every second she's so real she's kind and she's beautiful okay now how would you describe Paris I would actually describe you as kind of the same you're so fun um we always have the most wild time and are always laughing. You are also extremely tender, sentimental,

2:37and just like always wanting everyone around you to be happy and stunning, bitch. Thanks, bitch.

3:04Okay, let's go back to your childhood. You guys grew up in the same neighborhood. Is that correct? Yes. And you guys went to the same school. Yep. What was your first impression of each other? Do you remember? Well, we were two. So I don't know. Two? Yes. I didn't know you guys knew each other since you were two. Yes. And so you guys were just inseparable since the moment you guys were like getting raised together? From day one. So we went to the same school, but we also we had the same piano teacher outside of school. We had we like had our tap recital together. Orchestra. Oh, my God. And then we graduated on to orchestra.

3:39And we love our orchestra teacher, Mr. Houser, who's in. Shout out to Mr. Houser, who I'm sure watches this all the time. Obviously. He's obsessed with you guys. And he's actually in the encore. Nicole, what do you think your reputation was in your town and at school growing up? Okay, well, I did get class clown in both of my schools. Okay. What do you think your reputation was? Just like, sweet.

4:05Yeah. Darling. Nice. Angel. Never gets in trouble. What do you think the parents in your town thought of you? Of like all the kids in high school? Were you like when you were younger or even in middle school? What were people thinking? In middle school, like, Nicole and I were only allowed to sleep at each other's houses. It wasn't like we were ever staying at all the other sleepovers with everyone. We weren't allowed. Why? We didn't know the parents probably as well. Our parents were really strict, yeah. And they just didn't let us do all the things. And we also used to get treated as one. So if the leader of our group got mad at one of us, both of us were out.

4:43That's so nice to have a friend like that where you're like, it's both of us or none of us. Yeah. I mean, we didn't even choose it. It just happened. and then all of a sudden like we were back in and we were like okay we is it true that you guys had your first kiss at the same party yes yeah tell me the story it was at samantha colker's house oh that was the first one that was the second the vegas one oh okay because i remember we were at your first kiss in vegas second second this was like sixth grade and it was great spin spin the bottle yeah and we both kissed like these two best friends yeah Bert and Jared yeah cute

5:25wait what age were you for your second kiss Vegas 14 you guys are not real who the fuck is going to Vegas at 14 we were too we were wait what were you doing in Vegas we went this is actually we were not fortunate we were we were younger but we were her parents yeah her parents were going to Vegas okay my parents were getting divorced and so I as any you know up-and-coming teenager would do I told my mom I was going to my dad's I told my dad I was staying with my mom and um I went to Vegas and we would like her parents would go to parties and we loved this musical called Starlight Express and we would sneak into the show and we would just like watch it at night and then during the day we would take taxis and um leave the strip and go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores and we would get like ferrets and chinchillas and then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here we and when did you kiss these I'm assuming men boys they were no they're like yeah like 10th grade how did you meet them in vegas from our school at the chinchilla farm no i don't think they came with us to to go get the chinchillas so you had your second kiss in vegas yeah kind of romantic very romantic and was that burton was it they did not make the trip no okay who had the stricter parents growing up i know you're saying they're both strict but like who was like really hard to go to whose house to like You know you're not sneaking out if you go to ex's house.

7:10Well, I had security at the house. So I was never... Sneaking out was not even an option. That was impossible at your house. At my house, it was easier. Even though my mom was strict. Yeah. Or no, your dad's was the easiest. My dad's was the easiest. He was always on tour. Yeah, he was gone. So that was fun. The way this is so casual. You realize that childhood is like you guys have the craziest, coolest childhoods, right? We lived a normal childhood, too. Yeah. As you're saying, second kiss in Vegas. Smuggling ferrets. Okay, I'm going to play a game with you guys because I think this is going to like really, we're going to get to know you a lot here.

7:52Ready? Okay. Who had the better 2000s wardrobe? Me.

8:002000 in what? I don't know. I had a sick wardrobe too, but mine was just like so 2000. Like just the so extra of it all. Yeah, you are very 2000s. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. If you guys had to pick one 2000s trend to wear for the rest of your lives, what would it be? I would never do such a thing. Okay. I would wear all my 21st birthday dress. Love. Yeah. I think you said that to me last time. You love that fucking dress. I love it. Where is that dress? In my closet. Love. How honest were you guys when you were younger with each other when like they had a horrible outfit on? I feel like we always looked so hot.

8:40And we would dress like twins a lot because her mom would buy us like two of the same outfit always. And we were like obsessed with doing that back in the day. Yeah, we had to wear uniforms in school. And then the summer program was called Summer Games. And my mom would buy like six of the shirts that we would have to wear. And she would put shoulder pads in them. This is late 80s. shoulder pads in them and bedazzle them. And so we would like, we would always dress as twins. And then when we were a little bit older, like once we were 11, we would go to Contempo Casuals and Judy's and our parents would buy, like treat us like twins.

9:15They would buy us like, remember the burgundy bell-bottom dress? That was so cute. Yes. We have to rewind. Why shoulder pads? Because it was the eighties and like, that's just what it was very cool. Yes. who was the bigger shopaholic I would say you're very like you're like like a little more like manic and you're you're like you're like I want it all right ADHD as well I just I love it all but I do love to shop okay who has the worst dating history me yeah yeah that feel right yeah who was more delusional over guys when you guys were younger I would say me because my first real boyfriend's AOL name was Playa for the number four life.

10:05And I was devastated and shocked to my core when he cheated on me. I couldn't believe it. I was like, where were the signs? How did you find out he cheated? So he cheated on me three times. Once was on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland. And I know this because every time I ride, I go. To myself. Playah2245. What was his handle? Playah4life. P-L-A-Y-A. At AOL.com. Email him. Anyone who wants to email him. Email him. I'm sure he's still around. Okay. Peter Panride. Peter Panride. And then one of the girls. So I had like heard about it. I asked him. He obviously said no. And then one of the girls was really nice and got on the phone with me and told me.

10:55And she was like, he said that you guys were broken up. I'm so sorry. And then this is when conference conference had just gotten where like you could, um, if you had like the elevated conference, you could still get call waiting while you were on conference with somebody else. So we called him on conference. He obviously was like, I'm not, I'm not going to admit anything. And then we had someone call her. So she got a call waiting, flipped to the other call, came back and then he admitted it horrible yes you moved on um yeah I mean I moved on but I was like it was the I was really shook I was like I cannot believe I got cheated getting cheated on sex oh it's horrible it's horrible have you gotten cheated on every girl has I know that's really terrible guys are awesome it's horrible it's horrible what is a bad way that you found out so you found out from a girl coming to you have you found out a different way TMZ

11:55Paris no yeah what do you do when you see that online just so pissed just like it's obviously hurts but also just like mad just like how could you humiliate me like this are you a confrontational person where you would be like calling them or you're over no you're done I'm like done and then I hate confrontation so I just would rather never speak to the person if I would like break up with someone I wouldn't even tell them I just like never just leave just like ghost I feel like Nicole you're confrontational no yeah no I wanted it to be like a major motion picture like a punishment yeah a real thing tell me like yeah I was like I know but I waited until like I was, that was fun, kind of.

12:50It is fun. When you look back and you're not like in the moment, it's fun to look back at the heartbreak. But when you're in it, you're like. No, when you're in it, it's so devastating. You can't survive. And it affects you for life. Completely. I actually saw one of the girls at a party and I was like, you know, you like rile yourself up and your friends are like, what are you going to, what are you going to do? She's coming, she's coming. And I was like, I'm going to beat her up. Okay, I've never hit anyone in my life. and then like finally like you know you're saying it for so long and then she got there so the whole party was like Nicole she's here she's here and I was like ah and I like walked up to her I don't even know what I thought I was gonna do and her friend literally just went like this bing and I flew across the party I didn't have a chance and um anyway we ended up going to college together so she's my friend kind of you're like bye never mind wait now you're friends yeah I mean I haven't seen her and like loose yeah yeah but if i saw her i'd be like oh my god yeah play up for life for life yeah um who was the bigger flirt back then you yeah yeah love i would flirt but it was more to like humiliate them like more than like an aggressive not in like a like sweet yeah i wasn't you're gonna ruin your life and then some um when the two of you guys would be out like would you be the person that would go up to the guys like if you're at a club you guys want to like infiltrate a table are you going up no everyone was trying to infiltrate our table okay we didn't have to go up to anyone they just wanted to come up to us I have to say our focus wasn't really like guys we didn't have to that was not like we always just wanted to have fun have fun and then the guys would come and you're like oh this is nice like this is a fun little thing yeah did you guys ever fall for the same person or like the same person ever he's at opposite taste okay tell me what what was your type back then people who cheat I guess assholes yeah assholes I guess play us what was your type just people who are cute or hot no no no you think you were dating nice guys no not like cute like like looks wise like just people people who are hot and And some people were good, but it's LA, so you get both types.

15:13Didn't you say once in The Simple Life that you liked men to look like they were dying? Yes, yes, I did say that. If I saw a bunch of people that you talked to when you were younger, was there a theme of them actually looking skinny and frail and ill? No, I mean, sadly, I think I just said that to gross Janet out. I don't think I really meant it. I'm obsessed with you so you weren't going for like a specific looks wise type no whose husband is more likely to crash a girl's night out do you guys ever go out together crash a girl's night out Joel I think would get annoyed at like so many girls all at one time Carter never goes out so neither of them are coming I don't think they're coming wait how did you meet Joel a friend set us up Yeah.

16:05Wait, had you ever like dabbled with musicians at that point? No, I had not dabbled with musicians. But our friend set us up not in a serious way at all. She was like, you're single and he's single. So this is probably not going to be serious, but you guys should hang out. And we did. And I don't know if you've met Joel before. I think you did because quickly. Yes, yes, yes. But Joel is very shy, very shy. So the first night I met him, he actually didn't speak to me. And I was like, this is my husband. Yeah. You're like, this is how I know it's going to be good. I was like, this is the man for me.

16:49Stop. And do you think he was into it first? Yes. He ended up texting. Yeah. Or email. I don't know. whatever yeah whatever was happening back then AOL play it for life um what was your AIM okay okay um my first name was Princess NR because I had a dog named Princess okay then um I got a second name Ballerina Girl NR because Ballerina Girl is a song that my dad wrote and the song is after me. So I just like made that my, my name. Okay. So anyway, one day I was like, we were exchanging, um, screen names or whatever, like to, to like a group of friends. And it was, this is like when it was new. So we were like calling each other by their names, you know?

17:43And I was like, and so like, we sat there for an hour and everyone was like, okay, later, like whatever, whatever later, dah, dah, dah. And I was like, and then they looked at me and they go, see you later baller in a girl and I said no whoa whoa whoa baller in a girl I said I cannot believe for a straight hour you thought that my name was baller in a girl so now some of my friends still call me that baller in a girl baller in a girl that anyone would think that that would be my calling yourself a baller yeah and honestly I have ever since so what was yours beautiful blonde baby girl are you fucking lying no beautiful blonde baby girl yeah i am obsessed with my email name yes yeah that's one of them other one's princess ph another one's barbie 420 so wait so you're emailing people is like from beautiful blonde baby girl that is like you have to have some confidence paris yes love yeah love baller and a girl and beautiful blonde jesus christ

19:17back to Joel so you meet him you're when did you when did you meet Joel like when did Paris get introduced was it the same night I don't know I feel like it was like it was around Thanksgiving weekend and it was like pretty fast I feel like when you met him it was what did you think of them together I loved it you did yeah I just thought they were so cute it was on.com from the day we hung out like Joel is so sweet he's so loyal like he's just one of those types of guys it's like completely different than like an LA guy yeah love were you a fan of good Charlotte I was a fan of good Charlotte and um he also when he asked me to go to his house he hates when I tell this story okay he asked me to he was like do you want to come he was like do you want to come over and like watch TV?

20:06And I was like, yeah, I do. And he goes, do you watch The Wire? Never seen The Wire in my life. I go, The Wire is my favorite show. He goes, great. Why don't you come over and watch it? Now, listen, obviously The Wire is an amazing show. Okay. I'm not dissing The Wire, but okay. I'm a girl. He just like threw me into like season three. There's no music. And I, for a very long time, pretended like I watched and loved The Wire. When did you break it to him? I think like a few years after. Years? Yeah, we had kids. Nicole! But we have since re-watched The Wire. And Joel's from Baltimore. Joel's from Maryland.

20:51So it's one of our go-to shows. That's cute. But it always reminds me of when we first met because I really threw myself into that show. It is crazy. Like, I have done the same thing where I've, like, lied about liking something for a guy. And I'm like, then you get yourself into it. And you're like, I didn't think it would go this far. And then you're like, they're going to think I'm a full liar if I admit to this. Because, like, I've been watching. Like, I'm on the seventh episode. And I'm like, oh, my God, he's so funny. Yeah, I didn't know he was going to say, do you want to watch it tomorrow?

21:20I was like, oh, God. Okay, great. See you there. Paris what have you ever lied to like like something for a guy and then been like why the fuck did I do that like sports sometimes are you a big sports person or not at all no like I like playing sports like I like playing ice hockey I like going to ice hockey games I just some games are boring and I just don't like it um okay sorry back to my game um who is throwing the best party I don't really I don't throw parties I don't like people in my not like wild parties like you would throw parties throw crazy parties I love you do the time I interviewed you were setting up for a Christmas party oh my god that was almost a year ago how insane is that times went too fast you throw great parties you don't like people I I throw parties now but when I was younger I did not throw like wild parties at my house because you just didn't want people around you in your house yeah I didn't want anyone like stealing my things or anything you don't care if people are like wandering in your house no I don't want people stealing my things either but sometimes people do there's like people have literally taken like framed photos and put them in their purses my security has been like went up to them been like excuse me can I have that dude that's fucking insane people like feel and especially if people like get a drink in them they feel like I love this place and they start like doing weird shit in your house yeah and like lighting cigarettes like ashing all over the floor I'm like are you like i have children that live here like no no no that's not the vibe okay um which one of you is more likely when you were younger to like pull through with plans for the night you're like i've got the spot i know where we're going it was like a schedule it was a schedule yeah you do the schedule like mondays was joseph's right what is joseph's was like guys wednesdays was las pomas yep thursdays was like concord or lax Mm-hmm.

23:12Yeah. There was just all these clubs. It was like a schedule. We would just go like where all your friends went and that's what we would do. Would you guys go out every single night? Not Saturdays and Sundays. Those days are for losers.

23:28What? Saturday and... I feel like Saturday is like the night... No, that's Loserville. What was the best night to go out? Thursday. Thursday. Thursday was really good. Yeah. Learning so much. Nicole, what is your wildest interaction with paparazzi? Once I was hospitalized, I got crashed into. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh my God. You were driving and someone crashed into you? Yes. I'm so sorry. Yeah. My son was like six weeks old. He was not in the car. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah. When you look back at that, like how do you feel about that time in your life? um I feel like at the time you it was very hard to um implement any sort of like boundaries because the world was not really acting like you deserved that at all um and I was so young and just like didn't know how to stand up for myself like that so I was just like I was just I like I accepted a lot more, which I think is very common for your 20s of just like accepting that things that that I would never accept now.

24:38That's traumatizing. I know, obviously, like you've talked about it occasionally of like not occasionally a lot like you've been very outspoken in a good way of like this is really dangerous of like what those people were doing back in the day. And then it's kind of fucked up when people are like, yeah, but you guys were asking for it. Like you loved it. Like, what do you say to that? I don't say I'm like, if that's what you want to believe. Yeah. Do it. fuck off I don't fucking care what is one of the crazier experiences you've had with paparazzi well just when I used to live on Kings Road like right above Sunset Plaza they would just wait outside my house from morning till night and just follow me from the second I woke up till I went home at night and there would be some times where I would wanting to go to a friend's house and I didn't want them knowing their address so I would literally be driving like 100 miles per hour just trying to get away from them there'd be 20 cars all chasing me and I just remember just like sometimes turning around just being like guys like leave me the fuck alone and they would just not stop so that would just drive me crazy because it would just get so dangerous with like all these like strange men just like following me all the time or like going through my trash or people like jumping over the gate and just like it was just so invasive all the time no that like creates It's like an intense form of paranoia, I'm sure.

25:52Like, you can't, you have to worry about what you put in your trash. Everything, just like them shooting through the windows. Just like, it was just creepy. I'm so happy I live in a gated community now because it's just like. And your gated community, when I tried to find your house, Paris, there's no cell service there. And I literally was like, hello. And then I'm like, this freak driving down. There's like a man like walking down. I was like, I'm trying to go to Paris Hilton's house. He's like, we've got a freak on the loose. He probably was like breaking it. No, your house is, you are, you're good to go.

26:21You're safe. Okay. Sorry to bring that down for a second, but it is interesting to hear about like what you guys had to go through. Okay. I know this is like vague, but if you can try to give the daddy gang a story, what do you think is one of the most iconic nights out that you guys had together when you look back and you're like, fuck, that was insane. Like the two of us went all out. It was so fun or something horrible happened or something disastrous or fun or funny, like anything. We did go through a stage where we would wear shoes with wheels on them. And we would roller skate all night.

26:52And this was at the same time I had my ball python Cleopatra. And she would come with me as well. Wait, what? So I had a ball python. Her name was Cleopatra. She was Gorge. And I would wear her around my neck like a necklace. And we'd put on our shoes with wheels. And we would like roller skate all night. Would you go out with this? With Cleopatra? Of course. You would go in public with a snake around you? As a choker. Yeah, as like a little collar, like a collar necklace. Wait, Cleopatra. Wait, and no one stopped you? Stopped me from what? Being gorge? No. Nicole. Oh, my God. You never were like, oh, my God, my python is about to fucking rip the necks of everyone around me?

27:41No. No, she loved being with me. She was so, I miss her. Okay, so you're talking about Heelys, right? Or no, these are different. No, this is like pre-Heelys, yeah. You were whipping. Would you ever wear them to the club? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're in the club with Heely? Yes, yes. Because you could press the button and they would go in and out. They would just like, yeah. So we would come and like swoop-de-doo all night. I'm obsessed. They were great for like getting away from creepy guys. Yeah, you'd be like, oh, I'll be right back. and then whoop. You're like one second. Dude, that's insane.

28:18I can't imagine wearing those to a club. We were professionals. Yeah, we were just really good at it.

28:39did you ever get in trouble by your parents together in vegas when we were 11 in vegas when you were 11 well no we were like 11 and a half we were like 13 and we were with these guys and they're like do you want to go to the strip and it was new year's eve and we were like okay so we were on the las vegas strip then these cops came up to us and they're like how old are you and we're like 21 and they're like no let's let's see your ids how old are you really and we're like 18 and he's like how old are you really what's your names and i was like my name's jennifer perlstein her name is leslie and they're just like where are you staying and they kept asking us a million questions and then nicole's like actually you told on us well i because they were like if you don't i actually don't think we said 21 i think we said we're 15 because we in our minds thought that was like old we did yes and we didn't have big ideas yeah and so they were like they were like what's your name i think you said jenny stone because we went to school with her stop poor jenny her parents are getting a call um and they were like we're going to arrest you if you don't tell us your parents' names.

29:48So then they came, your parents came, they got us. Your dad, who's the kindest, sweetest, most soft-spoken man turned to us. I'll never forget it. And he goes, I knew this was a bad idea. Like screaming at us. He's like, I knew this was a bad idea. You lied to us. And you were never hanging out again. Cut to the simple life. we got separated a lot remember when I had a piano my piano lesson at my house and I like didn't want they were like okay it's time for because we were always at each other's houses so it was like okay it's time for the piano lesson you guys have to stop Paris has to go home and we were like no we don't want to and so we were holding hands and they were like come on guys come on and my nanny like was pulling me and like my housekeeper was pulling her and then we grabbed this hand and this hand and someone who was holding our legs up so we were just like flying yeah that was so fun so fun yeah i can't the fact that you guys like no we're 15 meanwhile that's like old in your mind you're 11 i was like no i think we were like 11 but we didn't do anything we weren't doing anything we were just out past curfew classic just like except you're on the vegas strip yeah but we were just like being cute and we wanted to go to the mirage and see the tigers.

31:09Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Classic, classic. Okay. I have to ask though, because you just mentioned your dad being like, we're, you're never doing that again. Cut to the simple life. Why we're here, obviously, aside from like, I love you guys. Let's talk about the simple life. We're getting an encore. We're getting a three part series. We're getting, what do we want to call it? I call it a reunion special. Love. Yeah. Okay. Can we go back to the first original before we get to the reunion because obviously the original was so iconic Paris can you talk to me about like how was the show originally pitched to you of like the simple life because it is so iconic and will be forever iconic they didn't tell me where we were going to go they basically just said we want you to go somewhere and we're going to take away your phones and your money and credit cards okay and you're just going to go somewhere and they didn't say anything like they didn't say like you're going to be working jobs like I don't how did they it was just like you're going to go somewhere and take away everything yeah they told us nothing nothing we didn't know we were flying like even on the jet flying over there they didn't tell us we're just we didn't know until we landed we so hold on producers pitch you this idea and you two do it together and you're both like sounds good and you get on a private plane yeah and you fly to what was the first place you went Arkansas Arkansas Altus love and you then just start filming we start filming the moment we got on the plane I think oh interesting okay or I think the night before because we had a goodbye party there yeah the goodbye party and they're filming like packing and all that now obviously the premise is you guys like doing like jobs each episode and you're like doing a job had you guys ever had a real job prior to that no no you were I was I was a skating school instructor and I was very good.

33:02You were? Yeah. Love that for you. Okay. You guys have a little song that you liked to sing throughout filming. Can you guys remind us of how it goes? Okay. Well, let me just tell you this song is beautiful. And I did talk to you about all of our musical talents, but what I didn't say is that we wrote this song ourselves when we were seven, if you can believe it. I mean, the talent in this room. It's really... Bursting. I have chills just from talking about it. Okay, I'm going to close my eyes. Come on, give me a little tune. Ready? Okay. San-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa, san-a-sa.

33:47San-a-sa! The ending can get pretty loud sometimes. So you wrote this when you're seven. Can you die? I mean it's kind of like a work of art it is what did your dad say when he heard it for the first time he was like jealous and wanted to put it on his album and I was like no pay me bitch pay me bitch um let me before I want to actually talk about this you guys stopped talking at one point I don't know if this is a sort of topic but I have to ask about it you guys were like not filming together in season four for the simple life right what the fuck happened be real with me don't give me a PR answer, you little shit.