Robby Hoffman: Hot Takes & Falling in Love

20 May 2026 · 1 h 22 min · 32 chapters

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In short

Robbie Hoffman discusses her comedy/acting career, attention and heckling dynamics, relationship and dating theories, and “great vs jail” judgments about men and women (e.g., socks, airport behavior, hygiene). She also covers her pivot from accounting to comedy, her “observing ego” self-awareness framework, and personal anecdotes about medical anxiety and dating/sex stories.

Guest backgrounds

Robbie Hoffman is an Emmy-nominated actress and comedian. She grew up with limited parental involvement, worked jobs including McDonald’s (cash/till work, got a uniform “pin” after a spot check), and studied accounting/finance via an internship. She later pursued stand-up, hitting benchmarks through mics and competitions.

Key claims

Her audiences are unusually supportive—“church” energy, no heckling. She frames self-awareness as collecting data on your own delusions. She argues men are “95% greatest guy” and “5% jail,” while women are more case-by-case. She claims relationships need one “hot” and one “smart” (two hot or two smart is a disaster).

Notable examples

She describes being “kicked out” of class as a teen “class clown,” recounts explicit teen sexual experiences, and tells stories about gross plane conditions (aggressive nose-blowing; mask request pre-COVID). She shares how she met her ICU-nurse partner Gabby and how Gabby’s medical knowledge calms her.

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Chapters

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Self-Recognition and Pride

0:32 to 1:35

Robby shares her feelings about her achievements and self-raising.

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Self-Recognition and Pride

1:46 to 2:32

Robby shares her feelings about her achievements and self-raising.

Attention and Relationships

2:32 to 3:58

Discussion on attention dynamics in relationships and family celebrations.

“it was you know so first of all not many people are reading my bio back to me but if they did and it's in a positive light, I say thank you.”

Early Experiences with Attention

3:58 to 5:54

Robby reflects on her past as a class clown and early romantic experiences.

Audience Dynamics in Comedy

5:54 to 7:42

Robby discusses the unique energy of her audience and her comedy experiences.

“So we're together, we are in it together.”

Arguing and Interpersonal Skills

7:42 to 11:18

Exploration of Robby's approach to arguments and interpersonal dynamics.

“I'm not challenging anyone, you know, at the same time.”

From Accounting to Comedy

11:18 to 14:03

Robby shares her transition from being an accountant to pursuing comedy.

“You should have seen me back then as an accountant.”

The Early Comedy Journey

14:03 to 16:56

Robby shares his challenging transition from accounting to comedy and the self-awareness required for success.

“I wasn't the best auditor, but I was invited on the on the audits that were, you know, out of state and stuff because just the travel.”

Navigating Self-Doubt and Illness

16:57 to 19:05

Robby discusses the balance of delusion and self-awareness in pursuing dreams and how personal health anxieties manifest in relationships.

“I'm then going to say, okay, I'm going to enter that competition.”

Men, Women, and Society's Issues

23:50 to 28:04

Robby discusses the complexities of men's and women's behaviors and societal roles, including humor on serious topics.

“In one of your sets, you said that the makeup of any man is 95 % the greatest guy in the world.”
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Tea Bag Controversy

28:04 to 29:29

The hosts engage in a humorous debate about an unusual tea-drinking habit.

Socks and Sex: A Deep Dive

29:30 to 31:39

Discussion about wearing socks during sex and personal preferences in intimacy.

Airport Etiquette

31:40 to 34:26

The hosts share their thoughts on airport fashion and behaviors.

“It's like just sheets or a very thin blanket.”

Pets and Social Norms

34:27 to 36:48

A lighthearted conversation about pets invading personal space and social interactions.

“I don't want to be, I once had somebody's dog.”

Food Allergies: Real vs. Trendy

36:49 to 39:41

The hosts discuss the rise in food allergies and societal perceptions of them.

“Like they make you want to go through the aisles.”

Photography and DJing: An Analysis

39:42 to 42:00

A critical look at the amateur photography and DJ scenes and their authenticity.

“i had a task rabbit once come over i bought you know the cheaper the thing at ikea the more of your life they take.”

Men's Fear of Expressing Affection

42:00 to 42:40

Exploration of how societal norms affect men's ability to express tenderness.

Men's Fear of Expressing Affection

42:52 to 44:04

Exploration of how societal norms affect men's ability to express tenderness.

“Nobody really explains how your money is supposed to work for you, right?”

Men's Fear of Expressing Affection

44:37 to 45:45

Exploration of how societal norms affect men's ability to express tenderness.

“Did you know that this year is America's 250th birthday?”

Teenage Social Dynamics and Relationships

45:45 to 48:46

Discussion on how teenage girls navigated social scenes and relationships.

“you made sure you earned your stay in your friend group by bringing the tea and getting your friends some dick.”

The Balance of Attraction in Relationships

48:46 to 54:30

Analysis of the importance of balance between attractiveness and intelligence in relationships.

“So, you know, there was they were doing their thing.”

Qualifying Advice and Personal Experiences

54:30 to 56:00

Robby shares experiences and qualifications for giving advice on various topics.

“Yeah, you have a big contribution to your, right?”

Childhood Doctor Visits and Family Dynamics

56:00 to 59:05

Explore humorous anecdotes about childhood doctor visits and maternal expectations.

“Yeah, I don't think a celebrity I'm going to for advice, but to me, celebrities are, because my mother always had a reverence for doctors.”

Lesbian Advice and Misconceptions

59:05 to 1:01:04

A discussion on the misconceptions surrounding lesbian advice and perspectives on straight men's behavior.

“A lawyer on speed dial, a doctor on speed dial.”

Navigating Approaches in Dating

1:01:04 to 1:04:08

Guidance on how to approach someone for a date and personal anecdotes about first impressions.

“Listen, I don't want to beat around the bush.”

Meeting Gabby: First Impressions and Compatibility

1:04:08 to 1:06:58

Robby shares how she met Gabby and their initial compatibility despite appearances.

“And, um, and they were like, oh no, no, no.”

Falling in Love: Robby's Journey

1:06:58 to 1:10:03

Robby recounts her experience of falling in love with Gabby and how they navigated their relationship.

Navigating Love and Trust

1:10:03 to 1:17:29

Explore the complexities of falling in love and building trust in relationships.

“And then, you know, it was very elementary, very sweet, very cute.”

Navigating Love and Trust

1:18:04 to 1:19:10

Explore the complexities of falling in love and building trust in relationships.

“And you can start celebrating right now with guess who?”

Playful Insights and Relationship Dynamics

1:19:10 to 1:24:00

Engage in a fun game revealing insights about relationships and compatibility.

“It could be an unfortunate circumstance and we're laughing.”

Robby Hoffman's Comedy Journey

1:24:00 to 1:30:53

Learn about Robby's rise in comedy and experiences on stage.

Robby Hoffman's Comedy Journey

1:32:01 to 1:33:01

Learn about Robby's rise in comedy and experiences on stage.

“And you can start celebrating right now with guess who?”
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1:14The wipes are perfect also for multitasking so you can just get back to your day-to-day with ease and with a better vibe. Thanks to Clorox, we can have spring cleaning and they can get us through it, right? We don't need to stress. Thank you, Clorox. Okay, so shop Clorox Disinfecting Wipes now at walmart.com slash Clorox Wipes. What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Robbie Hoffman, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thanks for having me. I'm so happy you're here. Thrilled. I mean you are an Emmy nominated actress and comedian in my opinion you're one of the funniest people in the industry right now thank you I appreciate that how do you feel when people read your bio and like accolades to you do you like it I feel great when I hear about myself I'm extremely proud of myself and I think it's probably something that comes from the self-raising of it all uh i don't know i i just feel like i think when you're when you don't know when your parents aren't that involved in the raising of you and you depend on yourself a lot for the you know the raising i kind of look at myself and i go my god i'm really proud of you well done like it was you know so first of all not many people are reading my bio back to me but if they did and it's in a positive light, I say thank you.

2:41Keep it coming. Like, what am I gonna, it's amazing. I feel like you can kind of tell a lot about a person by how they react when people sing them happy birthday. Oh, right. What are you doing? What are you doing when people are like, here we go? Happy birthday. You know, I get a lot of attention. Okay. Nature of what I do. I'm an entertainer. I do standup comedy. I act and I write and I'm in the public and my relationship gets the attention. So I do like and like things like that. I'm happy to give other people the attention, especially like weddings. It's like Gab and I eloped. We had a very small wedding.

3:25But in my family, I like partaking in their weddings and really celebrating them because it's like they have more quiet. They are not as accoladed, not for any reason. It's just not what they do. For instance, my sister's a social worker. or she doesn't, you know, she's not like getting articles and da, da, da, you know. So when she has a wedding, I'm like thrilled to throw that on. So the happy birthday, I feel like I get enough. That's why our wedding being small, it's like we're going to have the whole family fly out. We get a ton of praise all the time. And so where we can pull back, we do.

3:57If you had to say, though, what is the most attention whore thing you've ever done? i mean i was like class clown i think i was always i didn't know how to uh i didn't know how to you know steer or finesse that energy you know i kind of wanted whatever attention i got in trouble a lot um you know i got kicked out of class and things like that and then now that i've harnessed it like i do have attention but it's in a very sophisticated harnessed way now versus it was free for all until i figured it all out yeah free for all whorish like like like okay like whore yeah i gave tons of hand jobs is that what you're getting to call her daddy like in ninth grade like what do you mean whore okay yeah i i gave what i gave they were a couple of tugs it wasn't much um i didn't know about lube they were very dry and and i the customers seemed happy i never had a problem hand jobs are just never a good experience for anyone i mean no no i've given six blow jobs six i know it's a lot it's very generous six i've given six i like that number for you yeah yeah two guys six two guys yeah like one kind of four one two one I really tried again but I said you know what I'm really not in the mood I said I don't think so he had hair on the bottom of his shaft I just I couldn't get it together well I never even went all the way down the shaft but I just I and he was like I'll get rid of it and I said just forget misery forget it it was brutal yeah I can't imagine being down there in that moment you're just like contemplating your whole fucking life yeah is that the kind of whore you're asking about oddly no i'm back to the again i'm getting i'm going through the blowjobs i'm going through class clown is a good answer okay you're you're hitting it hard so being a stand-up comedian at some point you're obviously going to interact with your audience right yeah what are some unhinged things that the crowd has ever said to you done to you this is going to sound insane what and I know that people have said this before I don't experience any of what you're about to ask the heckling or the this my audience is in it to win it with me I can't even tell you the vibe and the energy like they I maybe I don't come off approachable if they did say something to me I don't think they think it would go well but I don't invite that sort of back and forth and my audience just comes to church.

6:48So we're together, we are in it together. And I just don't experience that sort of thing. And I know that sounds like whatever, whatever, but it's just literally, I can't believe the energy of my audience. I mean, that's incredible. Like people, like I remember when it wasn't like my show, like when I used to do just whatever shows around the city, I remember I did a show in Canada or some guy on a bachelor party, like took his dick out or something. But there were things like that that happened in general audiences. But I'm telling you, when they come for me, it's like we, the sermon has begun.

7:25The phones are out. Everybody is just, they've taken a deep breath and we're just together for an hour, an hour and a half. Literally. Take us home. Literally. It feels that way. And I feel for people who deal with this sort of thing. but it's just never been it's and thank i keep it that way by the way keep it that way no keep it that way for sure but i yeah when you just said that earlier though like do you think there's also an intimidation thing yeah there's no way they'd win that oh right so i think it's like if somebody i mean if somebody sneezes in my eye i say bless you you know like there's nothing i'm not gonna you know can we all say bless everyone's bless you you know like so it's like you know i I don't know.

8:13I'm not challenging anyone, you know, at the same time. But if someone challenged you. I would, you know, give them the attention that, oh, this person needs attention. Let's all, I'm sorry you're sad. What happened? And let's work through it together. Is there anything else you'd like to say? And okay. Is that what you're like in an argument? Explain. Like if someone is arguing with you, do you take the temperature down? No. Okay. Okay. No. Okay. I don't know. I have never taken the temperature down, unfortunately. It's another thing that I don't really relate to. But arguing is an interesting question to me because I mean, to me, to complain is to enjoy.

8:54To argue is to speak occasionally, depending what culture I'm in and the cultures I've grown up in. Like you're going in at the dinner table. Yeah, but so is everyone else I know there. Keep in mind, you know, I have nine siblings who are a lot like me. um i you know i'm friends with similar comedians and this sort of thing so we're all like that now if i went to a normie dinner you know i'm actually really pulled back at something like that i might still be the craziest person there but for me that is like you don't even know if i was just with comics or just with my family forget it we're all going and he said but she said okay so we're gonna see you know so we like an argument i like this yeah i'd love an argument bring it on oh i love an argument before you got into comedy yeah you were pursuing a career as an accountant correct you know that's a pretty big pivot comedian accountant what happened there what happened is is comedy really i really wouldn't wish this happening to anyone um but uh yeah i grew up again bore you know you're gonna my violin comes out my violin is only getting bigger.

10:07I think being poor is just so criminal and it's so bad that I'm not over it. Like people want me to be over it. I'm not over missing the bus 15 minutes, 15 years ago. Like I'm not over like people like ghetto. I'm not over anything. You know what I mean? I'm not over spectrum going from$39.99 a month to$79.99 a month. Like, and then you want me to get over my child? Like there's things I'm just not over, but not everybody in my family went to school. So when I got to go to school, I was like, what's the least amount of school for the most payoff? And they were like, you can get a job this summer in accounting or finance with an internship.

10:44And that's exactly what I did. I said, say no more. Where do I sign up? And I, and I, you know, and that's what I did. I didn't. And then when I started to have money every two weeks, direct deposit I considered miraculous and amazing. That's when I started really like to sleep for the first time and to really like. I know people think I'm anxious now. This is I'm actually quite calm. This is, you know, I used to be far more anxious. You should have seen me back then as an accountant. You should have seen. Okay. Then from there. Yeah. You go to McDonald's. Well, back to McDonald's. Teenage years.

11:25Yeah, I always had jobs during school, during all this. These are simultaneous. How would you describe yourself as an employee? Horrendous, but joyful. Like we refused to work the back and flip the burgers. I only wanted to work the till, the cash. But I was. Alex, I was hitting them orders in. It was crazy. And so, you know but we had a good time um yeah and and and like it's you know i really i was uh eating mcdonald's every day when i worked there and it was amazing were you ever employee of the month like no we did do well no no i was actually really good during lunch rush and stuff like that um maybe because of how i grew up i'm used to a rush so we i was very good and uh we did get pins yeah i got a pin the only reason i earned that pin actually is we randomly had a uniform spot check like our manager our floor manager decided to do this check maybe the owner was coming in i can't remember and so everybody had to lift their pants and um if you were wearing black socks which i happen to be wearing for no i doesn't even i don't even know but me and my friend were wearing black socks and you're not allowed to wear black socks no you had to be wearing black you had to be so we got the pin for hygiene or whatever it was why do black socks mean at the time it was part of a uniform mcdonald's famously changes their uniforms all the time um but we had we had like jean on friday you could wear jeans but don't you think that it would be white socks you can see what's going on black hides i have no clue we never even knew of this rule it's just maybe he had extra pins like to this day and there was no the pin didn't come with it I don't remember the pin other than we got the pin we were thrilled and we were killing it at work there's nothing to say wow okay so you were never like the personality hire you did the job both I was definitely a personality hire too yeah can you give me a little intel is there anything you've seen a little too close up that you're like maybe don't get that well you know i was at mcdonald's they had like fun like they were going through a sub phase oh like they had their own identity crisis let people like they were like trying to do subs at one point thank god those are gone um i hear the filet-o-fish is good um i don't go near it which is a lesbian is is shocking um but people who like it that is their go-to that's their go-to yeah that is their go to okay all right i've never tried it maybe i'll try it maybe we'll try it i don't know is it true that in the early days of your career you got your script for comedy in front of network executives by impersonating couriers claiming that you have a delivery to make yes it was only one you know i wrote a script um when i discovered stand-up and this relates to your earlier question i was like and then i thought i could be good at it and i was now most people who see stand-up i think they can be good at it they can't I happen to be it's it's like nine out of ten times this is not going to be the case for you if you're watching this and I apologize but for me it was and it was like devastating because it's like now I have to pursue this thing I had a moral dilemma like I have the opportunity to make to have a good job like to make more than you know just as an accountant I was making 32 ,500 a year Canadian my first year at 22 years old which was nobody was really even salaried right uh already making more than obviously my mother or whatever and then i'm gonna pursue the arts like the thing it just it was very difficult to think but i knew i was good at it and i were good because i was winning like i gave it six months i said if six months nothing is doing phenomenal kpmg gave me a laptop for keeps we are killing it like they couldn't be nicer to me.

15:27I wasn't the best auditor, but I was invited on the on the audits that were, you know, out of state and stuff because just the travel. I'm good on a plane. Let's have, you know, let's press play on the movie. But yeah, it was a real moral, moral dilemma, moral dilemma for me. Like, and so that's why I gave myself that six months, like if six months nothing's doing okay you have a great job you get paid every two weeks this is wonderful um and during that six months i was doing mics and stuff and competing i i did uh open mic competitions i was submitting to festivals and it was all i was getting approved so i there were benchmarks there were ways to know that you were good at it and trust me if i wasn't good at it i would have stopped i do not want to be traipsing around this scene like many that we see and there's no awareness and if you don't have self-awareness take it from others after a certain point you know there are comics who get up there and they say you know i've been bombing for six years and they they talk about it on podcast and they're bombing and if you're bombing to that extent by the way it happens no okay but to that extent maybe maybe it isn't for you no worries you got to go no worries but i could it could never be me you're too self-aware no and if i'm not i don't even trust that.

16:54I thought I was good, but I'm not going by me. I'm then going to say, okay, I'm going to enter that competition. I'm going to enter this. I'm going to do that. Is everybody on my page? Right? Because I know that I come with a certain amount of delusion. I think I'm great for sure, but I could be wrong. I've been wrong a million times. I'm wrong about so many things. So this was no different. I wasn't going to trust that I'm a hundred percent right on this. I felt a ping in my stomach that I probably have to do this I'm probably good at it but there was still a hope that I wasn't good at it and I wouldn't have to do it what do you think you are like percentage wise delusion to self-aware probably both split down the middle because delusion is free delusion and dreams like when people ask me what I dream like I don't put a limit on my dreams it's like it's free it's like taking soap from the hotel it's like just to take it.

17:47Who cares? You know, you've already paid for it. Like dreams is like, I'm not charged to think of living on the beach. So just if you want to live on the beach, dream about that. That's in the delusion thing. The self-aware thing is on the critical thing. It's kind of like, just reading about this, the observing ego. My therapist was telling me that, and I go to her ad hoc and I don't want to hear it. I dip in and I dip out. And her big thing is, that's okay to think that that's a that's a that's a thought it's a feeling you fear um it's not a fact and the other thing is there's something called your observing ego your observing ego looks at your ego and i could be getting this wrong but for the most part it's right let's try it okay um your observing ego is all about skeptic it's all like huh i hear that story that you think, okay, you took a blood test and it's going to come back.

18:46You had your annual physical, normal, normal, but you've worked this up into being that it's going to come back and you're whatever. Sure. But you're observing goes, I'm doubtful. I don't know if I believe that. I don't know if I believe that story. And that's where the self-awareness comes. Self-awareness is almost like you're observing ego. It's like, okay, you think you're good. Let's get some data in. Let's let's look at the let's look at this, practically speaking, and object as objectively as you can. Do you think you really let your mind wander with the medical? Oh, yeah. My husband, I have had him lay next to you at night and he's like, has a cough.

19:28And he's like, what if? No, it changes my whole. What if it is cancer, though? Literally. How did we get from the sinus infection to cancer but i have to hold him in that space but also bring him back to reality like does gabby meet you there gabby was an icu nurse by the grace of god as if she couldn't get any better it's when i first met gabby when we were first dating like my stomach hurt like i slept over but i did shows that night i maybe didn't eat dinner and was gonna eat after but I just crawled into bed with her and I had a tummy ache. She like literally sprung up to make me something.

20:08Like she was like, oh, there's like these oats that I've given to patients. And it's like, like she's so good with the medical, like she's unreal with the medical. How soon in did you start asking Gabby for medical advice? I mean, I can't even remember to me to breathe as to, I don't even, well, you know, I couldn't pinpoint. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's something I taught. it's like the weather, you know, how I'm feeling. You could be in the coffee line and you could turn to someone like, do you think the symptom means? No, I know. It's very scary. It's terrifying. No, your husband should see an ENT.

20:46If he, no, if this, I do want to say it seems if you guys have good insurance, I mean, by all means.

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23:48Can we talk about men for a second? Of course. In one of your sets, you said that the makeup of any man is 95 % the greatest guy in the world. Oh, yeah. And 5 % jail. All right. Can you elaborate on that breakdown? Well, men have a very dark. Some of it is coming to light now. It's amazing how much of men's darkness continues to come to light. Like it just continues, continues. It's like an onion, right? It's like we all have known, but I guess now men are like, you caught us, but not really, right? Like that was the Harvey Weinstein thing. We're like, we all knew. Now it's the pedophile thing and we're like oh right this is like really fellas this is not you've got to get it together this is just unbecoming like this is just unwell right what you're is this punch yep oh have a little it's cold a little refresher watermelon that's excellent thank you of course um yeah so they started to kind of we started to be like I can barely keep up.

25:01Right. But 5 % it's you don't want to know. I guarantee 5 % of this man. I don't want to know. Can you imagine if women were doing that shit? It's crazy. We would be in jail. Yeah. I mean, they're putting they're trying to put women in jail for emails. I mean, this is what's going on. Never mind. We're like, you're with the children and we're sending emails every problem in the world and i'm not a i love the fellas and my you know and and and i i'm with dudes a lot and i'm best friends with them you know when somebody says oh i'm friends with it well i'm friends with a jewish person or you know um i know gay people and i'm friends with them i know men and i am friends with some of them um but every massive problem is them it really is it's distilled down to men versus women at the end of the day war we would not have gone about with war a thousand years ago we're setting up society i'm not gonna be like you know what let me bash a bitch into the wall like we just don't think like that i'm like i'm gonna talk to her let's talk it through see how how long is she staying here how okay okay no problem so we won't be like like we would discuss communicate at first yeah so war is just not the way we would have gone about it we wouldn't have invented um you know the economy is run on the stock market which is astrology for men you know it's like it's just not the way we would have gone about money all of it's like we would have been like everybody gets 100k to start is that good okay so let's just all take 100 okay and we end it four let's all go home like like we would have set up every system the economy warfare politics it just would have been very different what do you think about women what is our makeup of jail to great women are more nuanced it's hard it's to me women are more case by case men i can apply more of a general they're they're more basically made so i can you know they're like a pill like that like like i can you know we we're more women are a lot more complex yeah okay let's unpack this further i'm going to give you a scenario yeah you're going to tell me if it qualifies as great or jail and we're like we're bringing this down to like normal life we're not talking now or after you have already have to pee i over because i'm having my tea go really okay but are you going to be able to continue as is oh well i'll sit right here will you run do you know where it is i don't think hey everyone intermission um i actually don't think anyone's ever left during an interview to pee i appreciate the directness most people would sit there and just hold it no no because you know what tell me i i consume a lot of water and tea i just saw the tea's gone okay you're you're already hitting the unwell and i won't do this on here and it makes gab sick i will squeeze that tea bag at the end it's one of the grossest things that i don't that is the five percent of the woman you know what that was exactly 95 normal and five percent she takes the end at the end of her tea and it's as gross some might say as pedophilia she takes the end of the tea bag some may say and she squeezes it squeezes it into her mouth or back into the back in here and i finish the tea that's like backwash that's like the last driblets of like a the tea bag don't you fucking dare because it has the most tea in the bag i think it's the most potent of the flavor of the tea put it down put it the fuck down okay it's looking nasty now yeah no it's fine we can remove it now okay that's your jail ready game yeah you're gonna tell me if it's great okay or if it's jail okay they fuck with their socks on a guy or a girl yeah i think that's fine i think it's fine too i remember reading are you cold i mean i also grew up in canada like is it cold how's your heat you like to set the mood you want to make i fucked with all clothes like we're both like let's just the least amount that has to be shown is fine you know what I mean there's a reason there's a fly for some people I remember reading at one point that if you keep your socks on during sex you can have a better orgasm and this was back in the day when my boyfriend was just like not getting it done and so I tried it and I don't know if it was like a placebo effect you know but I kind of convinced myself like maybe we are having more progress and it's not like i'm now running to put the socks on to then have sex but if they're on sometimes i just won't take them off well it's also it's a nice thing like maybe you keep your extremities warm you know um we tend to clench we can let i think on a man i would probably prefer i don't want to see a man's feet such a good point yep i think a woman can go either way like if she wants to be cozy and cute in socks i'm not mad but a man please so i would say as somebody prefer uh i don't you know i don't even men who don't wear socks with shoes like if even if they're in a shoe and there's no sock i'm upset i don't want to see a grown man's ankle that i'm in no mood for the ankle on a man it's it is rare it's a good one it doesn't matter unless you're on a boat that is you're on a boat you're at the pool there's no reason for me to see your ankle you're at the airport in a flip-flop what do you think about that call the police that's that that that is just what do you think about shorts at the airport i i'm more fine with shorts but i don't love them would you ever wear shorts to the airport no i like to be cozy and i'm cold a lot what about bare feet on a plane it's unacceptable it's horrible what would you do if you were sitting next to someone with bare feet on a plane I would combust I really thank God and I travel so often I've been near it but not quite directly next to it and I'm see I'm grateful once again you know I'm extremely grateful for the life I have including somehow dodging something like that you've been like a few rows away yes cut the glimpse oh yeah the shiver down the spine it's just so gross i i don't know it's really gross it's disgusting i did sit next to somebody once this man could only be described as homeless and i don't know if he was unhoused or not but i'm describing him that way to give you the idea and he had one singular tissue not a hanky not one and he blows he blew his nose so aggressively so many times into this like and i asked the flight attendant for a mask this is before covid before anything how i even thought to ask for a mask before covid i never you know what i mean i didn't even know like you were out of the hospital yeah and they didn't and i literally thought i would die of aids like i thought like that flight like i'm done for when you sit on the plane and you hear the person going like and it is all the it's just the coughing the hacking you're like i am sitting in an incubator yeah i do feel i'm a prisoner no that it's terrible that's it's i do feel that it's good to know um okay they sit on the couch in their outside clothes that's fine we're okay couch the bed no less so but it's fine occasionally is the comforter on comfort is there a cover let is there a little throw at the end you know when you throw the throw how do you feel about the throw though in a hotel i get rid of it immediately get it the fuck away from me get it the fuck away from me no my husband has the same he's like put out the window yeah and here's the whole thing i've stayed at holiday and express not not to brag and i used to like sometimes the cover let is the blanket at those hotels.

33:32Like there isn't a blanket under. It's like just sheets or a very thin blanket. Like I've been frozen as can be before. I'm like, I'll freeze to death. I don't care. The shit that's on there. Oh, a decorative pillow in a hotel. Terrible. Okay, they have a cat. I have a cat. How many? One. And I don't like other cats just because I have a cat. So it depends the cat. I'm also case by case, just like humans, I'm case by case with the animals. I don't need an animal, a dog to run and pounce on me. I'm not in the mood to be assaulted by a dog today. Sometimes you go to somebody's house, I was not in the mood to be jumped by a dog.

34:14It used to be acceptable if somebody had such a dog to say, could you put it in a room? You can't ask somebody to put the dog in the room now. By the way, I'm a little afraid of dogs. I don't want to really be harassed right now. Can you put the dog in the room? Like, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. No, it's not okay for me. I don't want to be, I once had somebody's dog. They were like gnawing at my sock. They're like, Oh, he just wants your sock. I'm like, I want my sock. Look, look, I want my sock. So I don't know. So the dogs, it depends the dog and it depends the cat. I don't want your cat scratching.

34:45My cat doesn't do such a thing. My cat is the gentlest little cat that ever was. I got her already at two years old. And so she was she was fully grown and very gentle. And I knew her. But some people get a kitten and it grows up. It's a menace. And I'm I'm locking the door. I'm afraid of the cat. Does your cat have a name? No. No. No. Oh, I said no. I was like, no, her name is no. No. Yeah. OK. They are allergic to gluten. No, it can't be done. It can't be done. Is it real or they think they are like unless they can't. like I want to see the outbreak I want to pick up a roll we're having rolls tonight just a bag of rolls I don't care if it's the Hawaiian roll whatever roll okay I don't care if it's a dinner roll butter it up and let's see is it hitch it better look like hitch it better look like Will Smith and hitch if it's not Will Smith blowing up and hitch I don't know it does feel kind of recent it's very recent it's very recent and you know i don't want to it's just i gotta see everybody is suddenly celiac yeah like i don't think people in my parents generation like remember when we were kids probably everybody was allergic to peanuts i never hear that anymore because it's not cool anymore it's not cool anymore less and less people are allergic to peanuts people used to kids used to fucking pass out need an epi pen you were taught you got to stab them i was ready I grew up ready to stab a bitch who was freaking out with a peanut.

36:18That's such a good point. The EpiPen was killer. And they said, and I said, I'll, believe me, I'll do it. I remember like, could I do it? I remember really like, you know, and they're like, in third, because we had somebody in our class allergic, take the EpiPen. And I said, teacher, I will do it. But no one was allergic to gluten in our classes. No. And now, I don't see the peanut allergy too much. Yeah, comment down below if you've got a peanut allergy. And comment down below if you have a gluten allergy they had by the way they're coming for us and fine i believe you i'm also we don't care but we're also curious we're curious is it a gluten in time you know when they ask you at a restaurant like hey like gab and i like to go to sugar fish in order to trust me we're like we should trust me but instead of the crab can we do the sound and they go is it allergy or is it a preference it's like that's what i want to know with these people is it an allergy or a preference okay their go-to grocery store is air one i mean i i'm sorry to say this is people are not gonna like gabby orders from air one more than more than i i would like now when gabby is on a trip i i can't imagine it okay um and also it's a very annoying grocery store to shop in because they don't label any of their aisles.

37:40Like they make you want to go through the aisles. And I'm like, I'm not here to like explore the grocery store. Like what's in the aisles? Like I'm looking for, so, and the only time I go is if Gabby's coming back from a trip, I will buy her her treats from, uh, from Air One. I'll pick up a bag. I'll get her like flowers and I'll get her like, you know, she likes these mush, uh, oatmeal and different things that they sell there so i will get her the stuff that she likes just to make sure that there's a couple things that she really likes okay someone that has their phone background is a photo of themself that's terrible so weird so very weird i agree people who have dabbled with djing it's a horrible criminal dj can i add something alex permission of course permission to elaborate photography fellas you got a nice camera you got a couple you got a record player like how much is you and how much is the thing like the camera photography I'm not sure it's very hard to especially at the amateur level and the DJ at the amateur level it's very hard to know what are the tables doing and what are you doing what are the songs themselves doing you drop hot in here we're on okay I don't know if to give you the credit what did you do we're back to Nelly but is it Nelly hot in here yeah yeah it's Nelly it's right look I don't know photography was it was it the Leica or was it you I don't know it's such a good point and the photography I remember being on dating apps and being like if he was a model or a photographer it was just a it was a quick it was a quick easy decision oh a model a model for a man i mean there's certain this is where i get in trouble sometimes because i can be uh traditional even though i live an untraditional life to some extent i had a task rabbit once come over i bought you know the cheaper the thing at ikea the more of your life they take.

39:52Right? Like, so it's like, yeah, the shelf's really cheap because there's 97 different screws that you're going to spend the next two days doing. Right. So it's like, that's what you pay for. So, and I, so I would, you know, I'm, I'm no stranger to ordering the cheapest possible things moving to a new apartment, not anymore by the grace of God and all of you. Thank you. Um, and so I was just moving to LA, maybe a new apartment and I called a Tass Rabbit. it's maybe six seven years ago and another lesbian shows another dyke shows up i go a girl no i i need my handyman excuse me i if i could do i would have done it now we're both i'm on the floor with this bitch doing it send me i need a guy to come over here like i'm looking for like an old italian or mexican dude to come in here and do what the hell he does you got on the floor with her why because she was she was like oh i know that was my problem all right let's see if we can figure out it's like no the the hash rabbit's gotta be a dude okay and and the model has gotta be a girl i don't wanna you're a male model yeah okay okay so men who are so into fashion and know what kind of jeans a woman's wearing that really just be gay like women don't like literally save women's time like i hear these stories all the time where I'm like, that sounds gay.

41:18And I have a theory about gay. And again, it's only a theory. Yeah, talk to me. Okay, we are hypothesizing still. But I do think that everybody who you think is gay is gay. And then on top of that, there's a million more people you wouldn't even know who are gay who are gay. So if you think a dude's gay, that's all you need. He's 100 % factually gay. Because then on top of that, there's the whole download, the people you don't know who are gay. so that yeah a really interesting because i i feel like i've seen you said something about um like everyone has a little gay in them right the fellas the fellas yeah but they're scared of it like girls want a little gay in them even if they don't have a little gay in them they're like kind of hold my hand like girls on a beach will like be like ah let's like pose like this like you know they're not shy of being a little gay they like have fun with it they like like flirting or or whatever but fellas are like so afraid of it that if they just were like you know like yeah or you know like terrified yeah they're like terrified of it because they've hurt each other doing it like the thing is is they used to bash each other's head in if they actually were they've scared each other again goes back to men being the problem they're also a problem to themselves right like embrace yourself yeah like they bash themselves dude on dude violence is massive.

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45:44When you were a teenager, you said you made sure you earned your stay in your friend group by bringing the tea and getting your friends some dick. Yeah. What, what were you up to? What was your, you know, I was naturally born. I had a good figure. I'm low-key pretty. I have a prettiness to me. You know, my brother always asks, he's like, why are you starting to look like Joe Pesci? Like, he's like, you know, like my family thinks like, how many sisters are like, you know, you were, you, you know, you could be pretty. Like, you know, like they think like, I don't know. Like he thinks like I have an insecurity or whatever.

46:18Like I dress like, you know, you could be wearing like my sister used to like, If we were window shopping, she'd be like, oh, with your figure, I'd wear that dress. And it's like, they can't imagine that I choose to dress like they think it's like must be something. But in high school, when I wasn't in tune to what I just was like, oh, yeah, like, you know, in high school, we wanted jobs, boyfriends, like, you know, it was Romeo and Michelle, let's go. So my friends had, you know, like, let's say my friend's father would take us somewhere like my mom didn't drive right or like I never had any money and uh maybe my friends they got allowance I once asked my grandfather for allowance and he walked me to the fridge he's like you want allowance well what do you think this is all the food in the fridge and I'm like copy that um but yeah so I would I think it's it's like being you know being blind and maybe your other senses pick up the slack.

47:21I didn't have a lot monetarily to contribute. In the summers, I wasn't the house that had a pool that knew somebody who had a pool, you know, but I could, I could get us to the front of the line if I needed to. I could, you know, like, I could get us get us drinks. Right? She's paying the Uber. Why should we be? No girls. I always knew girls don't pay for drinks at bars i looked good i put on whatever tight i had to be i had a good time and i would just walk up to whatever you know they used to have guys roped off at clubs and stuff i'd say what are we drinking fellas before we knew it we're like five girls we're sitting there we're drinking you know the orange juice and the cranberry juice are there the bottle service i'm like pouring all of them and then we would leave those guys we never put out we never anything we just actually call them fellas back then no i would say hey guys what do we you know like Like we were always and we were always it's so funny looking back.

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48:17We were always like amazed. Like let's say we like we were like five like skinny bitches like 20 years old, short skirts, heels, the whole bit in the freezing cold. You know, no not even paying for coat checks. So running from running from the car to the club, trying to get in. Please, sir, we're cold. And we can't believe he lets us in. okay meanwhile we're like five 20 year old girls like of course that's who's getting and we can't believe we got the free drink did you believe these guys gave us they're crammed it's so obvious reason they got the the the bottle was for this to happen to them dude it isn't it so terrifying when you look at it you're like oh my god how stupid and easy men are when it's like it's all it took was me to wear that chop are you fucking kidding me but they had to spend some money I do remember thinking I well I do remember because I remember my brothers having to go out and I helped my brothers with their plenty of fish profiles and online dating back then and one of my brothers was colorblind this shirt this shirt my brother was so cute but they didn't have money and I always felt like what really sung me because I always thought a great date for any amount was a movie and when movies became amount of affordable i said that is it if my brother cannot even take a girl to a movie what are we doing what chance does he have what chat and he's only like 18 like he's trying to order he's working at fedex like if he can't take a bitch to a movie like he's not i've been out to these clubs what is he gonna do he's stuck it's horrible because these fellas had to have like that bottle was like five and i don't know what it was the bottle service is fucking crazy and they did it.

50:05So, you know, there was they were doing their thing. However, they got their money. Maybe they were flipping cell phones. I don't know what they were doing or coming from it. In many cases, the ones not coming from it who got it. I'm not looking at your your taxes. I don't care what you don't care. You did what you had to do. And you did what you had to do. And you got. Yeah. And I did what I had to do. OK, you have a theory. Oh, in every relationship, you need one hot person. Oh, yeah. And one smart person. How did this idea come to be? it's just always been the case. I can't tell that ideas and it's not a hundred percent for the, you need the right ratio.

50:43There's a relationship ratio that that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the two sides of the ratio. Okay. For those of you didn't, you know, math is, you know, the two colon, the colon is the ratio and you're quitting both sides. One side's got to be hot you need an attraction something hot is different to people but also it's you know and then there's uh smart those are the two things for the relationship that's a scale so if you're bringing mostly smart you gotta look for mostly hot if you're bringing 50 smart and 50 hot you need a 50 52 what if the balance is off and you have two hot people or two smart people.

51:27Look at two hot people. It's a disaster. Hollywood, J-Lo and Ben, it doesn't matter how many times they try, they're missing an entire circle, right? They have two hot, and I'm not saying, and they're lovely, but they're missing an entire, two smart, that's two ogos, that's a hazard on the road. No, and nothing wrong. But that's just what it is. We've seen the couples. But you need something driving the other stuff. You need a good mix of both. But what's more lethal? Or what's more like, oh, this is going to go down in flames. Hot, hot, smart, smart. Down in flames, I think is hot, hot. What happens with two hot people or two smart people?

52:11They're just you're literally just walking around like I goes. Yeah. Happens. But is that so bad? By the way, by the way. OK, but at least they can work, you know. But what happens is, you know, sometimes, you know, you get, you know, they either go outside or whatever if the hot doesn't pick up. Right. Like maybe one of the uggo sees a hottie. I mean, she's going to kill me for saying this. Emily? What? Emily? Are you trying to talk to your team? Yeah. They can't talk to you back in here. Basically, it's a general ratio. You want to make sure you have it. Okay. um gabby you know and and and the ratios don't even make sense gabby i think brings 90 of the hotness um and i can feel confident going anywhere with her whether it's a grocery store whether it's a carpet whatever it is because i'm like with gab nobody's even looking at me who cares okay um but i think i'm a cutie so i bring 10 so we have our 100 hot and on the smart people forget gabby was a nurse so she's practically a fucking doctor in this country she's an icu nurse so we split the smart 50 50 we have our circle there just fill the circles however you can get to your fill do it you got to do it yeah i think that's a really great point i i do think people need to be a little bit more self-aware and it also depends what type of like time you're in your life right and sometimes in college you're like i just want a hot guy i want a hot girl and you're just going for the hot and you actually like i don't want you to be fucking smart because i don't want to end up with you i just want to have fun and you might be smart right that's a lethal con you want to know lethal somebody like you or gab they're hot and they're smart gab i always tell she doesn't have to be hot that she doesn't have to be hot or smart for as hot and smart as she is you don't have to be hot you don't have to be as smart as you are for as hot as you are you could have leaned on one that is the lethal combo is that sometimes they're hot like gab and they're brilliant too what fucking chance do you have what chance do you have but does that mean that then they could get with someone that can bring less to the table because they're bringing more.

54:23It does. Or does that build resentment? No, but that means that you, if you want just some guy in college, what do you care? You're carrying a lot of the circles already. We're carrying it. Yeah, you have a big contribution to your, right? Your fill is there. You need less of it. Maybe you're doing 90 % hot like Gap and 90 % smart and you just knew you're looking for 10 on either. Oh, what a life. A guy walking around with 20 %? That checks out. Most of them are. And that's generous. Yeah. Thank you. You had a live Colin show once where you gave advice called the Robbie Hoffman Consulting Group.

54:58What do you think during COVID qualified to you to give people advice? Well, I mean, I have an undergraduate degree from McGill University in accounting. Thank you very much. I think I'm qualified on all areas of relationship, of psychology, of finance, of fashion, due to my credentials right there. What are some of the weirdest calls you ever got? No, we got a lot of calls, you know. This is so boring. We went through people's resumes. I like to spruce up a resume. You know, things like that. We really, I don't know. We got tons. I don't know what weird is. I can't even qualify as something being weird.

55:45Like somebody could ask me anything and I'm like, oh yeah, that's a fair question. So I don't know. What celebrity would you call for advice? A celebrity? Well, they're calling you. What would it take for you to call in? I wouldn't call a celebrity. I want like, you know, the neurologist at Cedars-Sinai. That's somebody I would call. You know, I don't think a celebrity. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't think a celebrity I'm going to for advice, but to me, celebrities are, because my mother always had a reverence for doctors. And we went once a year for a checkup. And I remember at one point, and if we weren't going to school, I don't think we would have had these checkups.

56:22So thank God for the schools, the school system. But I remember me and my brothers sitting on the, what is that bench called at the doctors? oh i know what you mean what is the the well you know you know with the paper on it it's like the it's like the table the table the gurney it's almost a gurney it's kind of creepy okay so anyway we're all on there we're all in our underwear you know i'm maybe like eight nine ten and like right we're all a year apart and we're all in our underwear me and three of my brothers okay we're freezing we're sitting he's doing the knee thing we're having fun And, okay, he weighs a saw and he's going down.

56:58My mother's there, like, you know, nervous. Like she's brought four of her kids in for this appointment. And he does her checkup and he's going through it. And he's like, yeah, your brother looks really healthy. This one over here, the oldest, he's looking great, perfectly. You know, the other one, we'd love if he was finishing his plate. My brother, who was like a little, nothing crazy, but just make sure he's finishing everything on his plate. He's in a little lower of a percentile. We'd love to see him just a little meatier next year. Nothing crazy. see uh me you know uh rifka robbie she she looks uh healthy fine okay okay he gets finished with all of us and he goes okay kids have a great year at school see you next year he leaves the room for us right right my mother's like get dressed get dressed get you we're like pulling our we're getting dressed okay she's pulling my brother's pants she's like you're all way enough embarrassing me in front of the doctor because my mother all she did was cooked and you know threw food on the table right and he's just a small we were all so he's still small to the same you know what i mean he's just a skinny guy right and but my mother she was so embarrassed like it looked upon her that she wasn't feeding her kids because he's and he doesn't you know way enough he's eight years old he has no clue what do you what does he have anything to do with what he weighs at that age it's like a full form of self-examination for her in that moment she's like how they looking yeah really it's like a reflection on her yeah she's taking it like so then she implemented did the piece system where you finish to you know two more pieces or whatever doing all that and i'm like i already had my two more pieces i'm good you said two more pieces last time i am done with pieces for this i love that you all went in together she would do as many as she could yeah yeah four then four yeah because it was just like an annual checkup like are the kids do they have their shots or whatever they were always kind of a little intimidating it was sitting there in her underwear i was like cold he's some pedophile obviously that he's just wondering like did i I have to strip down to my underwear not thinking about it.

58:51That may have been a unique experience. And that may have been my mother being like, everybody get on, you know, the doctor's coming in to examine. Like she had us ready. Like she didn't waste a doctor's time. And the doctor was like, I didn't need you to be naked. And so those are the people I revere to this day. Like I like to get on the phone with a great lawyer or a doctor or a scientist. Having one of them on speed dial. A lawyer on speed dial, a doctor on speed dial. There's nothing like it. There's nothing. Okay. In one of the episode descriptions, you said, we are now helping those most in need, predominantly non-lesbians.

59:25What did I say that? Yeah, that was in one of your episode descriptions for your advice. Oh, for advice. Yes. Because I know, no, no, because what happened was people thought it was only lesbians to call in. And you're like, lesbians were flooding the lines. And it's like, no, like the fellas need a lot of help here. You see how they're walking around. they're they're in many wars they're they're they're investing in in crypto at you know they're and you know so get them on the line so i think that was a clarification what what is some straight people shit you just like cannot get behind a lot okay a lot of straight men claim that going down on a woman is so difficult because it's hard to find the clit oh okay yeah like dj Khaled is gay yeah no that's what I think I think if you're bragging about not going down on a woman it's like bro just come out like there's no other way to come out like it's not giving what you think it's giving fellas it's like bizarre it's like just be gay like again leave women alone like why this whole song and dance like they like gay men like just be gay be friends like they'd be thrilled for you like don't drag them on this thing and your weird thing yeah no I think a man not going down on a woman, which by the way, going down on some women is great.

1:00:44Some others it's not. I'm sure it's like hooking up with men. I've had, I've had, you know, thank God I married Gabby is all I can say. Thank God I married Gabby. But you know, so it, find your girl, you know, but I think bragging about not going, it's like, okay, like, I don't know where to go from that. Like just literally be gay. So weird. Give us your advice. Ready? if someone's like how do i approach someone in the wild what do i do it depends on the circumstance okay who's approaching who a young woman in her early 20s to a man is going up to a man no never do not do that you don't need to be doing that a man in a man is going up to a woman in her 30s.

1:01:33Where are they? Are they in a place? They're at a luxury bar. Okay, they're at a bar. They're at a place of approach.

1:01:45I don't know. I think just keep it simple. Can I buy you a drink? Listen, I don't want to beat around the bush. Can I get you a drink? I've been looking at you. No worries either way. Okay, have a great evening. She says no, walk away nice. She says, I'm okay. Thank you. Have a terrific evening. I like the no worries either way. Like, don't put too much pressure. Yeah. Hey, I was just wondering. You know, it's like Gabby when I met her the first time and I was like, listen, I don't want to beat around the bush, but I got to get your number. love that you know did she give it to you well her friend who was a fan of mine that's how like her friend spotted me and i was like thank god that was very new for me for spotting to be happening she was with gab and she said i'll give you the number i'll give you the number because she was a fan of mine and i said no no i'm not getting it from you i'm getting it from the source and i'm testing it tonight wait how did you guys meet we met outside of uh we were uh And there was like a little like event happening at a bar space.

1:02:42Okay. Yeah. And I was late to it because I work nights and I got there to meet up with a friend and we were all on our way out and I got spotted by, by, well, another lesbian who kind of looked like me, like one of the more boyish ones, even more boyish than me. So at this point I thought, well, let's get out of here. This is really, this is not the night. I'm like, I'm not gay like that. You know, somebody like that is looking at me. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no. I'm not one of those. I'm not that gay. you know like i don't feel gay with gabby because i'm like okay one's like kind of doing the boy weird thing and one's a girl like we kind of have a heteronormative lifestyle like the only gay thing about me is that i'm gay but other than that i'm not even gay but if another lesbian like me like or even butchier than me with the buzz cut and the whole hit on me i'd be like what are you fucking gay like that to me is so gay and it happens it'd be too much for you that's too gay You have a very specific type that you're going for.

1:03:36Yeah, just that. No, it's not even. Yeah, like, you know, Gab and I make sense to me. So that person was and I was like and they were like, no, no, no. I love they were like, oh, no, I'm not gay like that. They were like, I love your comedy. I'm like, oh, thank you so much. I'm happy it's relating to, you know, but then I was like, OK, never mind you. Who are you with? And it was Gabby. And, you know, one of these things doesn't belong, you know, kind of a dive. You know, lesbian events are not. um let's just say we're not gay men you know the event space isn't isn't you know the flowers weren't picked up that day and all all the stuff that gay men maybe do but um we could use more at our places but uh gab was there and i was like well who's this and they were like oh yeah that's gabby the bachelor i was like the bachelor's gay but i don't know what the bachelor's doing maybe they are gay now and some of them are you know i didn't heard one was gay i mean he tricked all these women again just be gay even though people would argue that gab did that but bisexuality in women is a lot more like they're more open with it um i just think it's not as shameful men have like shamed each other into like not even being able to be their five percent gay which is a minimum um maybe for them but yeah so i just i wasn't sure it was a bachelor's gay okay i've missed out on so long of the bat, you know?

1:04:57And, um, and they were like, oh no, no, no. Uh, you know, uh, she's, uh, she's, she's just exploring. And I'm like, what is she, Dora the Explorer? I was like 28 years old exploring. I said, I don't think so. You know? And, um, I got right to it. I got right to it. I was like, uh, okay. Uh, well, do you, do you, i forget what i asked her but then the second question or something i asked her is like do you come for money and she was like and i was like say no more i knew she didn't you know because people come for money nothing wrong but i can't date them um they say we were comfortable or something right wait why couldn't you date someone with money to me it's like dating outside of the faith like i don't you know for me religion isn't the the thing that it's like the day-to-day like people who grew up with money versus people who didn't it's an entire different it's day in and day out it's every small thing you know i joke about it but grocery you know grocery shopping changes everything changes if i'm not in the mood whether i have the money or not to spend 9.99 on raspberries from an air one i'm not in the mood i don't care if the money is there i cannot and she moves on we understand that language we're like that is criminal we keep it moving we keep it moving right with somebody who grew up differently than that those are those are too many we're not speaking the same language gab and i speak the same language and that's i want somebody who's doing well now by the grace of god um and we both get it we both have our own we don't want to spend that we know it's we don't want to we don't want to so i asked her that and she said no you know military like and i said military for sure no money that's wonderful they we don't receive you know and her father is you know her family is amazing and uh thank you for thank you for your service for her entire family but military family and um i just love that i love the grit of of how she grew up and being a nurse and i just there was so many things that lined up you know we spoke the same language like on paper we don't look people like what an odd couple but it's like the compatibility is through the roof did even though you were first told like oh she's just exploring right you were right now just like oh my god no not interested then you started talking to her did you kind of know immediately what do you mean they're not interested like you said like oh when you're someone when the person told you like oh she's exploring you're like no what is she dora the explorer like no no no way like i'm not interested in no i didn't say i'm not interested i said she's just she already knows oh okay okay she's made it to the dyke bar or the dyke event this is just this is not dora the explorer on an assignment she's not anderson cooper in the war zone reporting back no no no she this is yeah i she was a little reaching your late 20s when you're 30 i think no you're 16 and you're exploring go ahead but do not come to me you know you knew she was ready certain age and tell me you're exploring so you knew if you got in there you're like no no she's ready oh yeah i mean she just explored she had 25 boyfriends you know so that didn't you know so she's here you know she did her last ditch hurrah and i got the final rose it's unbelievable how did you and gabby kind of navigate those early days in your relationship with like the fame of the bachelor and people looking at you guys like how did that go i honestly and again i hate saying this it could not have gone better I really am living one of the greatest lives I've heard about and it happens to be mine and I and I'm like thrilled with it like I really thought the worst case scenario but my observing ego was like maybe it'll work out something I'm like no this is gonna go like I told her not to come out I said this is not gonna be good for bachelor nation they don't want you to be gay the fellas are gonna go crazy right and and then I don't need this mob bachelor nation has embraced me I love you.

1:09:00Everyone is just tremendous to me and to Gab. So it went really well. But I told her, I thought she doesn't have to come out. People were starting to see us. I don't love living in secret, but I also was fine to do it because I'm like, oh, she's a lot more public. And her dating life is specifically public. I'm public with my work, but nobody's really... So it was a new sensitivity or another... And so I told her not to come out because I said, they're going to blame me. They're going to look at us and say, whose fault is this? So obviously this, you know, they're going to blame me. And then they're going to find out like, you know, Jewish.

1:09:36It's like, we don't need like, forget it. It's all going to come down to me. I was in no mood. I said, this is a miracle that we even met and that we get to enjoy. But, but actually it went amazing. And people have been, again, it's like, I hate to say it, but people have been so good to us. Who said, I love you first? me of course did she say it back right away or no yeah but then she stopped saying it for a minute so here's what happened what'd you do this is the gayest thing about me because i have dated before but i'm very i've been slow i never really lived with anyone i took five years to like maybe you know with gab i was like 13 days in like sat her down and i'm like i just gotta like I gotta be up front.

1:10:23I am falling in love with you. Because she was like, what is this? And I'm like, this is love. Like, what are we? She's like, what is this? And I don't know. And I'm like, it's love. It's what it is. And so that's what's going on. And we need to confront that, you know. And so I asked her to be my girlfriend. And then, you know, it was very elementary, very sweet, very cute. um very lesbian which yeah but you know what it's never too late to be a lesbian for the first time I was acting as fast as they say we were um and then yeah I was feeling fast for her so we we pulled back but she was also not trusting like in the beginning like Gabby you know and in a healthy relationship or good relationship ideally you work through your stuff with the person like you realize why you are the way you are and you don't you know what I mean and it all comes out so she was having that experience of like, you know, I guess I didn't trust that, you know, one of her parents would be home when they should be home or they said something to her and it didn't happen.

1:11:26You know, she wasn't able to trust it. But as we committed more and more, she always felt like, even though it felt like she actually enjoyed the commitment. Like when we became, when we moved in, she was like, oh my God, I really trust that you love me. like I really feel better like every step that we did to more commitment which would seem that she was like a pulling back but actually when and I never when she was like okay yeah let's move like when she I would never push or whatever she would then feel 10 times closer when we got married she even said she's like I really trust that you love me like it's just about it's just about we're all coming from our spaces.

1:12:09And in the beginning, she was sometimes afraid to say a feeling that she had because if she spoke up as a child sometimes and, you know, one day when she, you know, if you, you know, if you want her on and she's leaving the house or you catch her at the right time, she could speak more to this. I hate to share her stuff, but she, what was I saying with the trust? Didn't believe, love. Oh, yeah. No. Yes, you got it. You got it. You're a fucking pro. Got you. I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Got you. Yeah, she would like if she expressed her feeling, let's say something I did annoyed her. I'm annoying.

1:12:49I'm expecting to be like I'm expecting at some point she's going to be annoyed with me. I'm a very annoying person. It's one of my biggest insecurities. I always try not to be. And for people who find me annoying, I'm always trying to talk less and to be less annoying. And unfortunately, part of my anxiety is I talk a lot and I am annoying. So it is what it is, but I'm aware and I don't like it either. I don't like it either. But let's say she, you know, I left something where she wouldn't want something or, um, I don't know if it like, if I'm like, oh, well you throw me the leash and she would rather like a throw me this.

1:13:22She wouldn't even say something even as small as that bothered her because she would think that it's like a fight. She would think that like, oh, I wouldn't love her if, if something, you know, she's so used to Like if she brought up problems as a kid, it was like a problem with her. So that stuff like came out and I'm like, babe, you're going to have a million problems with me. Like you're going to be like a million things. Sometimes I'm going to hurt your feelings. Like there's going to be so many things. And I'm still here. I'm here. I had the opposite experience. Even though I was so poor, my mother was always home.

1:13:57So I knew no matter what happened, I called on the walls. I fucking flunked this. I whatever. We got to fight. The bitch is in the kitchen. She's cooking. She's where is she? I know to this day where my mother is. She's in the kitchen. The bitch is in the kitchen. You know, she was for love or money, poor cooking and doing laundry every single day. She never left the house. Right. So that type of stability. So we come from somewhere that I can handle a lot. I'm like, bring it on. What is it? Which is probably so amazing to her, though, but she had never experienced that. And I love what you had said at the beginning, which is so real.

1:14:29It's like sometimes you do have to really individually do the work because your partner can't solve it for you but then the fun moments in relationships when you realize you're compatible is also realizing like oh my baggage and my shit works really well with your baggage and your shit and what i'm bringing like gabby's like oh my gosh let's see if you can handle this and you're like this is child's play like i got you and she's like wait you're not gonna run you're not gonna get mad at me and that's really beautiful i am in the kitchen i'm in the kitchen i'm in the kitchen i'm in the kitchen and I love everything.

1:15:02Yeah. Like, uh, yeah, it's kind of like, yeah, what you were saying, the baggage, it's like we heal each other through, you know, it's like, I have the exact, uh, je ne sais quoi for her and she is exact for my stuff. Um, so it really, really works in a way that isn't, yeah, we're not solving each other's problems, nor is it our responsibility. They just are healing together and how amazing that like her with her wanting to trust but not feeling like she could trust you having yes things in your childhood but you being like no no i'm always gonna be in the kitchen i'm not going anywhere i'm not and to be that stable force for her to keep proving like proving when you moved in together and she's like oh my god maybe this is real proving when you got married she's like oh my god you really do love me you're like yeah girl I'm always going to be here.

1:15:49Like, I'm just nobody is here. Like, I'm just here. That's what like it's not. Yeah. So once I decide, I mean, I'm also like that with so many things. I found these glasses 12 years ago. I don't know what I'm going to do. It's like they work. They fit. This is my glasses. Like, I don't rethink. I have one. You know, I decide on the thing. Babe, look how I am. I used to do with everything, not just people. You're all in. I'm like, if I like something, why am I getting new glasses? Why am I going to the optometrist trying? Like, no, I don't. I like it. It works. And I can like something for a long time.

1:16:25I still listen to songs 20 years ago. Okay. Freaking Vanessa Carlton. Making my way back home. Nothing like that. I think it's making my way downtown. Oh, yeah. Could be wrong. Listen, 20 years and I still don't know the lyrics. But that is a classic. That's a classic. Like, I won't get over it. Making my way back home. Wait, does she ever say that? No, it's making my way downtown. Walk it. Yeah. Yeah, but that at some point she goes home. She goes. Can you tell us in the comments? She does. She's looking up. Look it up. I do love a good Vanessa Carlton. Are these real? Yeah, you can eat them.

1:17:04No, no, you can. Maybe you're not the person to eat them. Wait, how long have they been there? We replenish, but there could be a little dust. You just replenish. There's no way it says making my way back home. She says making my way downtown. No, you're right about that. Walking fast. Face is hot and I'm homebound There we go and I'm homebound Yeah she's homebound

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1:19:13You and Gabby addition. people hate when i chew on podcasts oh yeah yeah that can get you see see the annoying i hear you and i'm going are they good really yeah okay yeah okay all right who is more likely to laugh at an inappropriate time me or gab gab and i are the same gab and i laugh at everything the same like we both we are so inappropriate at home she lets me be me i let her be her what is like an inopportune time that you guys have found something funny that you're like what we need to fucking stop right now. Stop laughing. Stop laughing. It could be an unfortunate circumstance and we're laughing.

1:19:48It's not my fault. Okay. Who's more likely to send back a meal at a restaurant? Me. But I don't send anything back. It really would have to be very bad. But I'd be more likely. Are you leaving reviews? No, never. I don't know the depths of a person who logs in. I can't even, they're logging in. The login alone, forgot password, go to the email, get the code. I, it bewilders. It's bad. It's really scary stuff. Who's more likely to plan a spontaneous date? Me. What is one of the most romantic things you've ever done for her? I don't know, we do so many romantic, we love to be romantic together. the most romantic thing?

1:20:35Or just like an example. It doesn't have to be the most. It's so tough to say. Let me think. Well, I know, but I do romantic things for her all the time. I mean, I drive home from shows and she likes high chews. So if I pick up gas, I go and I grab high chews and I bring her a snack. You're thoughtful. Or things like that. So there's small day to day and then there's the big grand. We go horseback riding. I booked us a beautiful, you know, I don't want to say the inn, but you know, they have this and that. So we do big and small romantic things all the time, I think. Who's more likely to pick a fight?

1:21:10Her. What is the dumbest thing you guys have ever argued over? Dumb things all the time. And we're over in two seconds. Something that Gab and I have in common, and this is back to the compatibility, none of us hold a grudge. We are ready in two seconds to kiss and sit on the couch together. It's the best thing. We're like, I was, you know, sorry. I was like, I'll be like, I was in a mood. kiss kiss we're back it's two seconds who's more dramatic i don't know maybe her but not by much okay who is more likely to spill a secret i think neither of us really of each other or just like if someone how about this we tell each other every i was gonna say are you the couple that's like if someone tells gabby a secret and they're like do not tell anyone she's like uh-huh no no she's your spouse guys don't you're not gonna come between my marriage it's like i signed this nda like she signed this NDA for traders or something one of the shows that she went on to she had to sign an NDA I'm not gonna know she won you think an NDA is gonna come between me and my wife are you out of your fucking mind are you out of your goddamn mind it's like we know we and we are NDA proof okay so you just need to know that industry studios NDA Gabby Wendy knows everything I know and I know everything she knows and that's the way it is I don't see how it could like I think um my husband i had this conversation with someone recently where we're like oh we know everything like we we tell each other everything and one of the couples was like what and we were like are we the weird ones or are they the weird ones and this is making me feel like they're the weird no they're the weird ones you know my friend uh ali and we debated this but she um she told me about somebody you know she told me about this you know love affair that she was having having um not an affair like cheating just a love affair she was having a romance um and she said but don't tell gab you know because gab might know the person or something like this so i said okay come on and especially fun tea like that i'm running bro i am running i am pedal to the metal I can't wait to tell her.

1:23:18And guess who's hooking up? I walk into the house. Guess who's hooking up? I mean, that's a joy. We have such small joys. Let's have joy while we can. It's just the best. A great new piping hot tea. You know I love my tea. When it's not also impacting your life. At all. So you can kind of just relish in it. And you know she told me. You know she's like, come on. Yeah, if you think that someone's not telling, their fucking partner i hate when someone says if i sell a friend and it's nothing to do with spousal telling or whatever i say don't tell anyone this and they go who am i going to tell i go what kind of a response is that i don't care i don't care even if you have no one to tell even if you're in jail cell i don't care no one i don't want to fathom who you have who you don't have i don't know your friends with this week and who you're not what kind of response that when somebody says don't tell anyone who am I going to tell I don't know that's not the response that you say you say don't tell anyone you go I will not I will not because you know what it is you're right and people have said that to me before now I'm like oh fuck have I ever said that to anyone it's almost like you're kind of already admitting guilt you're you're like who would I tell like I have no one to tell I don't know yeah you do there's always someone to tell someone else like who would and it's just not a relevant response to that it i i don't know how we got to that and that's gotta that's gotta go yeah because there's always someone to tell there's always someone to tell and and you may not have someone to tell today but you could tomorrow i don't care i have nothing to do i just said don't tell anyone i didn't ask who you have a comedy special called wake up currently out on netflix congratulations thank you i mean from the beginning of this you saying like i gave it six months i was gonna see people liked it i know i was good with my accounting position i know you know and now here you are on netflix how does that feel it's unreal i mean john mulaney who is one of the greatest stand-ups ever end of our time um you know called me out of the blue on this it's like and i i wasn't you know john mulaney's in a suit he's so polished you know that he would jive with someone like me but again it's about that compatibility you know he just was tremendous he put his weight behind me this is the fellas helping you want to be a good dude this is the way to fucking do it and he got it done and i showed up for him i said well i'm gonna bring all i can do is bring you an amazing hour of material i got you got me and i will not let you down and we went out there and we did our shit in one night were you nervous at all no i was i'm always nervous i mean when you ask me if i'm nervous i wake up nervous okay you know it's my baseline um but i it's also an excitement i'm very i know how to chat like i'm just always a little bit of a nervous person but especially nervous for this no it's always before i go on as soon as i get on stage i'm home i feel like all the lights it's just me and i traipse around like it's my living room.

1:26:33I feel so comfortable when it's all the beginning and the stuff around it. But as soon as they call me up and I got the mic and I know I, I have some stuff to say and everybody just sit the fuck down. We're going to get through it. I feel so at ease. It's almost like the talking to you or the small talk that I have to experience or the handshaking or the, or the small social gatherings that I'm more nervous than when I get onto that stage where I feel completely home. People go, did you get nervous finding out these big theaters? I was thinking the other week, I'm like, I think the bigger, the better.

1:27:07I feel amazing in these theaters. It's feeling so warm. It's feeling like an apartment I walked in, I turned the lights on and they work and the water is running hot and it's just a great spot. I'll take it. Everything I do, I just take seriously and I enjoy doing. So I'll continue. This is how I toil, basically, how I do stand up, I write and I act. And I'm continuing to do it on bigger and bigger scales. But within due time, you know, I'm working on my own show for HBO, obviously a dream, but it's not to say that my first part on Hacks wasn't a dream. They're all part of the dream. and they're all just, you know, snowballing into the, they're all just growing the dream.

1:27:53So it's all good. I'll be on tour. I love seeing you guys in these theaters. I've never felt more at home. And it's all sold out. I looked at your website. I know, and we're just dropping. When this comes out, I think, we're dropping the next, you know, swag two of the tour, so to speak. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. So just doing, just, yeah, just, I live, again, one of the greatest lives. I'm building on my life with Gabby. And we just love it. So I really, I wish, yeah, I don't know how humble that sounds. I'm just really grateful and I'm really thrilled. Well, I think we can all agree you've done a wonderful job.

1:28:32I'm very, very nervous to be on this. Why? No, because I'm not so familiar. I have no clue what's going on. I think you've done an excellent job. They said you would ask pointed questions. I said, okay, I don't know if it's like, you know, who wants to be a millionaire? I'm like trying to get my facts. No, but they said, you know, she can she can be realized. OK, well, I'm going to you know, I can't say anything other than what I said. But also, like, I wanted to just have fun with you. You're a really entertaining person. I was excited to get to know you. I'm excited for my audience to continue to get to know you.

1:29:02I wanted to have a nice we're in May. You know, it's unreal. The weather's good. Yeah. Our feet are up. You're eating jelly beans. You finish your tea. You didn't drink the bag in front of me. and make me vomit. Look at this. See, this is all part of the dream, actually. We did it. See, I'm not upset with the other podcasts I've done. I'm just saying we're now on Call Her Daddy. That is all I'm saying. No, this was such a pleasure. You were so fun. Thank you. Your wife also was such an incredible host on our reality show. How good was she? I know. And people think I'm biased, but she's objectively good.

1:29:37I'm asking others. When I would get the cuts and I would see her sections, were like this woman's a star oh right because it was your that's true so i'm in post edit watching her and we're watching her different takes and i'm like how do you pick a take like every take was amazing get away because she was like she was saying some shit and thank god you guys let her get away i know her i said to everyone i said if this is our host you have to let her be gabby and let her do her thing because you can't dilute it to just for television make sure it's friendly like let Gabby rip because that is when she's at her best.

1:30:12I agree. And when she was calling people perverts, I was like, yes. They were perverts. You know, it's not, I wish they weren't. It's like people ask me, how do I come up with my ideas for comedy and why do I talk about pedophilia? I wish I didn't know pedophilia. I wish I didn't know it, fellas, but you have outdone yourselves and now it's in my head and I don't want it there. So I bring it to you. We got to talk about it. Robbie Hoffman on Instagram. We will be dropping the new dates. Thank you so much. Thank you for coming. Alex, for having me.

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From the publisher

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Robby Hoffman. Robby discusses the rise of her career and the pivot from accounting to stand-up. She gives some hilarious takes including socks during sex, airplane etiquette and the male DJ epidemic. She also reminisces on the early days of first meeting her wife Gabby and what truly makes them so compatible with one another. Enjoy!


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