Zara Larsson: Pop Girls, Confidence, & Crushes

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2:00How has Zira felt for you and how are you handling all the attention? No, it feels amazing. Honestly, I've been thinking a lot about it because internally it's so crazy because I've been doing this forever. And I think a lot of people might just discover me and find out about me. And sometimes, you know, a lot of artists, it seems like they just like pop out of nowhere. but I've really been doing this for my whole entire life and yeah internally it just feels exactly the same I feel like nothing's really changed for me like in my day-to-day or how I feel when I wake up and like what I do I'm still on tour right now and I've been touring for like the past year so everything feels really normal I think the only difference or the biggest difference is like my interactions on like my posts look different and like the amounts of likes and comments and shares and even things I say in interviews or like things I say today.

2:59I think earlier it might have been like, like I just say something, but then. Yeah, it's like a bigger microscope. Yes, yes. That is so interesting because it's like you're talking about how your life you feel. It's like it's been the same. But then there's these big moments that, yes, you can pinpoint there. it's like okay more people are noticing me like then we have the olympics alissa loose skated to stateside which was everyone's talking about it what did that mean to you it was so amazing and i knew she was going to do that because she mentioned it in an interview like the day before some some interview asked her like what are you going to do for for this performance and when i saw it i just kept watching it i maybe watched it like five times with my friends and we filmed the first time and like put it on tiktok but then the more i watched it like the more emotional i felt because i think it's also just seeing her looking so in it like she's so in her body and she's so free and she looks so joyful like that is my vibe and the way she talks about her sport and why she doesn't and the fact that it just seems to come from this place of true passion and love and not that no one's forcing her to do it um or that you know it just feels like on her terms and then she did it to to pink panthers and my song it just felt like obviously i will give her all the credit for pushing it up to number one but um being in that moment for me feels bigger than like the charts because i feel like that's like a cultural is like her story.

4:40Truly. It's the Olympics. It's like it's representing of countries in the world. No, she just, I'm so excited to like have been a part of that because that's iconic. Did you get to talk to her at all? Did you guys DM? I did. Yes. That's actually a very fun part about getting recognized and like having more followers and having this like celebrity situation. I feel like I can reach out to basically, like a lot of people and i know i will probably get an answer have you been sliding into people's dms are yeah but i do with like with like love like queen like hey queen like have you gotten any like messages back where like i can't believe i'm even dming with this person casually i reach out to a lot of artists like a lot of girls um sometimes just to say like hey big fan like love what you do like you know they're gonna read it because you go right to the top you got that blue check you're like hi it's me yeah have a good wednesday yeah yeah it's amazing but i just said like thank you so much that was incredible you're amazing like please come to a show she has to i mean i feel like this new album and era has been really transformative for you it almost feels like a reintroduction in a way and not even just with your music it's also your style and your image like what inspiration did you pull to create this new world um well a lot of people you know give credit to the dolphin trend on tiktok which girl we gotta talk about it yes which honestly you know it's um i don't think they're wrong i think subconsciously when you move through life you just pick up a bunch of stuff i i can't i can't say with the hand on my heart like the dolphin was not on the mood board but you know it's like it was there it was a big part of my 2024 can you just quickly just for anyone who lives under a rock and maybe it's like no some people do what are you guys talking about the dolphin what dolphin can you explain the dolphin where they came from and how they essentially impacted your life yeah okay where did they come from i don't know i remember one time i was doing a festival i was in norway and my friends just this day particularly i remember because they kept sending me these videos on tiktok it was just very colorful dolphins they're jumping out of the water it's rainbows it's blue skies it's like happiness in a picture vivid um and then that picture paired with the kind of explosive chorus of symphony with a very depressing quote of your life you know and i think it's that what's the word juxtaposition yes yeah yes yes it is a big word it's like something so yeah it's something so depressing in text yeah to symphony in the background i just want to be part of this And it's like so random and it makes you laugh every single time you see one.

7:52And that blew up. Because when they when they sent me those videos, it was like maybe five to ten thousand likes per video. And I was like, whoa, like why is this becoming a thing? And then from one day to another, it was just everywhere. But yeah, I think like my style and everything from that. The thing is, I did feel like it spoke to me, just the image, because I have always loved glitter. I love glam I love the sparkle I love colors I love like woo like this you know I love that and I have always felt a little bit not embarrassed but like being from Sweden which is very like minimalistic it's like clean lines it's a lot of neutrals a lot of black like in fashion and I've always wanted to be like in fashion because I think music and fashion go so hand in hand.

8:43I feel like I had to repress that side of me a little bit and like be fashion. And then it just turned into like a really weird style. And I think this album just allowed me to fully do what I love. What you said too, with the fashion element is so true to artists, the way that they express themselves and the way that they also differentiate themselves from other artists is through fashion, not just the music. And obviously your fashion sense has really popped off. And I think people are obsessed with the way that you dress. And I can tell that so much of your creative vision is poured into your fashion.

9:25People have called you a mermaid Barbie. Does that resonate? I love that. I love it. I love it. It's perfect. That's my dream. Is that how you would describe your aesthetic yeah maybe definitely colorful you know i love the long hair especially when i'm on tour to just like throw it around have the wind have the sparkles like i love the show-ness of it i love that it feels like it's not pedestrian you know it's like no we're putting on a show and especially this time around because I'm doing my US run and we have like maybe the budget is five dollars like you know what I mean it's like it's small like I wasn't when we when we did these when we booked these venues like I didn't know that this was gonna happen like I didn't know I was gonna sit here and talk to you like a year ago I didn't know like what would be happening to me so we have these like amazing amazing women that I share the stage with and my band and my dancers and me and that's the show i mean we are the show so like the show has to be like the outfits you know the light and the hair but that makes sense where it's like people forget that tours are booked so far in advance and so like we try to upgrade and it's just it's booked out like so far in advance so but i will be back though you will be back and you know what maybe it's fun that it's like this is going to be the most intimate it will ever get because it's like your career is on the rise I hope so.

10:55Okay, you mentioned you're chronically online. Yeah. Which I remember seeing an interview. You said that your screen time was like 16 hours a day. And I'm like, perfect. She doesn't sleep. No, I don't. What app are you using the most? TikTok. I figured. What is like taking over your for you page? Like what is, if I was on your phone, what am I seeing? No, it's me. You're your own biggest fan. I'm obsessed. No, for real. Like I try to engage also so much in like what people post and like what they say. and I like always like and comment and like engage. So I feel like my algorithm's like, oh, you must like be a really big fan of Zara Larson.

11:31So it's just like, I'm like, yes, like, like, like. Repost, repost. It's so much me. And then what else is it? But that's the crazy part of it all. You can spend like six hours on that app and then you lay down your phone and you're like, what have I just watched for six hours? And then you pick it back up because you're like, I need more and you're like, what did I even watch? the way you scroll it's like next video will be amazing next video will be amazing it's that i love how you're saying that and your videos are you because maybe the next one's good no i feel like some people's are like would be like whenever people would see themselves on an app they'd be like oh my god quickly scroll whether they're like i'm gonna be cringe or whatever you haven't you're like i fucking love myself yes but also i think it's like that's funny you say that actually because I used to really be like that.

12:19I used to like not watch anything. I didn't want to watch any performances. I was like, oh, like get it away from me, you know? And now I think it's just so in my face a lot of the times. And it truly did come from me wanting to like engage with the people who are posting it. But I think also the older I get, I've never actually been a very shameful person. Like everything that I do, I think that's one of my best qualities is that I don't carry like a lot of shame. And I think that just allows me to have more fun and like not be so hard on myself and judgmental. Because I really used to be like, every time I would step off stage, it wasn't good enough.

13:05It wasn't fun. Like I could have done better. That was embarrassing. Oh, I messed this up. I did. I was just like, everything was like, boo. What do you think was that turning point for you though? Was it age? Perhaps age. I think it was also me really feeling like I, because I've been doing this for like so long. It wasn't until quite recently, I felt like I am finally like a part of creating what I do. Cause when I started out, I didn't write my music. I didn't like really creatively make like my shows my video i feel like it was just kind of happening around me and it was happening with i was always like a part of the decision the overall like decision making and like i get i got to like no i want to do this song like i don't want to do this song but overall i think um a sense of control that i have now where it's like it's coming from me that's when I feel like it represents me and I feel like it's I have to plant the seed I can't just like tend to the garden that somebody else planted I have to like this how I feel I have to make like write my music be a part of the show be a part of designing like what I wear be a part and that just makes me feel like in control and it makes it so much more fun right it's almost like I was thinking about it when you're saying that you saying you don't scroll past yourself it's because you're fully aware of what you're about to see because yeah all of the creative you chose all of your outfits what you're singing you chose so you're like oh I remember oh and I hit that dance move but I like that moment where before you're probably like oh god like why did I do that why did I do that I was already feeling icky about it before I went on stage because I actually didn't even really know if I wanted to sing that song yeah

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19:26I think my, my like, you know, hardcore fans have always kind of known me and like checked out all my interviews and like all of that. But I think I've also just shared more of myself with my followers and like online. And I think it's, again, I think it's all these small things coming together, like the music, the fashion, the personality, just me being freer. but also more um yeah like myself it's like you thought being in the music industry you're like maybe i'll just try to be mysterious and look at when you just leaned into yourself everyone's like but it's also hard i think like instagram is like hard because it is so like aesthetic you know it's so hard and i think that's why it's just so much easier to like like connect because i don't have to think about and and and even sometimes i do want to wear like a black leather jacket and now i'm like wait can i do that but it's like the duality of a woman like i still have it in me i still have a leather jacket in me i love it i love it but it's hard it's hard to like i think that's also what it is actually now when i think back at it it's like staying a little bit disciplined because it is me and it is what i love but it's also like if you want to create some sort of brand, you have to have the consistency and the discipline.

20:49You're so right. You said in an interview that people used to call you a flop like 50 times a day. I was like, no, listen, girl, that's why I had to delete Twitter. I'm like, take care. You're like, goodbye. But how did those type of comments affect you when you were reading them and consuming them? It's weird because it's this like game with my brain. I think reading, it's it's so strange how i don't think we're meant to read a thousand opinions about ourselves a day um even like over five like that's a lot and i think what matters is like what the people around you are saying right so having having like some sort of social media or platform where people would just kind of say everything and i have to be honest like yeah i searched for my name i did that i don't want to see the mention oh you want to talk about wikipedia oh we know you're how do we can we quickly talk about that really pivot sorry yes this wikipedia beef that you have have we settled it have we squashed it is they locked the page they did no one can no one can come in and edit it anymore and explain the photo to people who haven't seen it it was just an ugly photo of me and i was like i don't want that to be the photo i want it to be a hot photo and then we try to change it and then they kept changing back and we emailed them like can can like we just keep this picture and they were like well it has to be by a photographer who have to give up like the copyright and i'm like yeah but like i took the photo like my friend took the photo and they were like what camera then we send this camera and they were like send us a full resolution and we're like it's just like a small bad digital going back and forth with wikipedia no like back and forth i think they didn't believe that i like owned the picture and i was like no like i had to send them a video like hey this is our larson like i took this photo like my friend took this photo and they were like yeah so the cut girl it was the whole thing the length that you went to be like there will be no ugly photo of me get this shit out zara i'm like that's the one i want you're like i want to serve face also i love how of all the photos you're like no one even looks at fucking wikipedia these days but you're like my wikipedia will slay to the gods and don't you ever forget it honestly i have a lot of respect for that how many times did you go in and try to change it oh like 20 yes it was over a period of time and then when i posted the video i posted a video on tiktok i was like whoever's changing this like stop it like because i will not give up i will change it 21 times like every morning you're having your coffee you're like here we go refresh yes yes like i will text my friend vandala just be like you have to change it again like it's changed back okay so you're searching yourself online constantly you're as deep and as wikipedia and i think it's i think it's and i think it's like again a sense of false control of like what are people saying about me what are they thinking about me because at the end of the day i'm like an artist right like i have this ego that i have to soothe and i want people to love me and i want people to like what i do and when i have a bad day i almost go in and I search for like the good comments gives me a boost and like yay you know it's like whoo but then I just kind of look for the bad comments to almost confirm what I feel about myself that day and it's like I knew it what I knew it what are some of the negative things that you feel about yourself because I feel like people online would look and be like oh you want to know what I look up when I want to like get confidence it's a Zara Larson dancing video of you shaking your ass looking like the hottest goddess in the world and then like so I'm assuming people are like wait what do you mean like no I think it is I think if I have a bad day I mean what the only the only thing that affects me is which I guess it's true for everyone the things that affects you is the things that you believe even a little bit you know so because i always like i always felt this disconnect with people or like fuck i'm in the kios island like i'm really stuck in here you know or like maybe i am a flop or like what is it that doesn't connect like what am i missing and like all those things i think that affects me more because i've been like beefing with people online since i was like 14 and I had my blog and I would just, you know, but I used to write a lot about feminism.

25:23I used to write a lot about like, I was out here hating men before it became a thing. Yes, no, truly. And when it comes to me personally, I think, yeah, like when I have a bad day, it just reinforces what I feel like I already felt. Right. Do you look back at the time when there was negativity and when it would get to you before you got yourself out of this asylum um did it impact the way that you felt about releasing music yes talk to me about that well i think i just cared a lot about what people would think and what people would say and um earlier on i also again i didn't like write my stuff so i felt like since it wasn't really like coming from me like my words um I could kind of only lean on other people's like I could know that it's good I think it's good but also like it was very important for other people to also feel like it was good for me because I started like I got signed at 14 and at that point you're so young and you're around all these grown-ups and um they just you know have been in the industry for a really long time and they're very talented so it's like we're giving you this song we're giving you this song and it wasn't really like an option for me to well I didn't know like I when you don't know what it is you don't know you just don't even know where to start and I've always kind of I've loved writing like I said I had my blog I love to like I love to like express myself um but I think also I tried to be in some sessions and and I think there's just this sense of like like when you're 14 15 it's hard to truly emotionally connect with someone who is like 40 and those are the type of people you're sitting in that room with yeah you feel really small and they're so amazing and incredible so i just kind of felt like oh what do i have to say like you guys know better than i do when really it's not about that it's just about like it's not about who who is better it's like who can now I realize like who can get who can get me the most comfortable so I can be the most myself but even Zara I'm thinking too you referenced you know you're a young girl at the time when you started your career when you would walk into rooms with label executives and producers you would be the youngest person there definitely what did that make you feel like um it's just always been like that for me and now when that's no longer the reality i'm like wow i think i really really would have benefited from um being around people more like my age but it's really hard to find like well the next big but the number one writer 15 year old like you know what i mean like you're not stacking your studio with 15 year olds yeah yeah just like uh come hang after school who's paying for the studio none of us have jobs no i get it i get it um it's just always been like that and the thing is i used to have my mom with me everywhere okay my mom was with me everywhere like in every session in every studio like she would sit right there like she was just with me and um i think that is such a blessing for me and like thinking back at it i'm very thankful that she was just there you know and i've always felt like the people i started working with were also um because i got signed to an independent label in sweden called 10 and um starting out it was kind of this 360 deal where they were like managing and record label, which kind of worked in the beginning because it was so small and it was just kind of in Sweden.

29:21But they were also with me and I felt like I could really trust them. They always wanted like what was best for me. I've been lucky to have been around good people. You go on tour with all these women. Yes. Since surrounding yourself with women, what difference has that made for you in your career? I feel so confident. Yeah. I feel so free in expressing myself. I also feel like for a lot of women, like in whatever kind of work they're doing, even like on tour, because we're all women on stage, but there's so much happening. Also a lot of women holding the mics, you know, performing, being pop stars, but the producers and the people working backstage, like nothing of this would work without people surrounding me.

30:12or like the industry so i think um they they always just have to the classic you know work twice as hard to take um or to get half the recognition that that men get and it feels really um it feels really like they're just so accomplished and i feel like everyone is being taken seriously and it does you don't have to like prove all the time that you know what you're talking about or that you know what you want it's so refreshing and i'm curious like since having this success i in your song stateside you say i'm that girl i've been it yes what does it feel like now that you really have people finally recognizing that like is it a little annoying like are people coming out of the woodwork i love it i love it and they just prove like oh i'm the shit like i'm hot right now like that's fun it just it says more about like what i'm doing than And and I think I think I think actually maybe the opposite for me.

31:17I think a lot of my friends, because I'm so bad at staying in contact with my friends when I travel just in general, like this really been an issue for me and a lot of my friendships throughout the years because I'm away a lot. And like the only thing that exists for me, I'm very present. It's this like whatever's in front of my nose that exists. but I think almost the opposite that people might be scared of now like clothes close friends that I had are a bit like scared of calling me because maybe they don't want to think that I like that they're calling me because that is going well for me I see so it's almost like the opposite wait you're like girl call me yes let's go let's go get dinner yes but also like yeah I've been I I feel like I am just doing what I do, you know, and that's what makes it so fun and easy.

32:10I think this whole era is just I don't really have to think about like, oh, fuck, what's going to be the next thing? Like, oh, because I just do what I like and like I just do what feels right. And that's just who I am at the moment. And then I don't have to overthink what's next so much or what it is like. It's just is. And I'm just I'm just this. Like I'm very open. What you see is what you get. Okay. Let's talk about tour. Yeah. First of all, the one note in your song, Midnight Sun. Yeah. It's like kind of long. It's kind of long. Do you have to like prep for it? Like when you do it live, are you like, like, could you bust it out right now?

32:50Or do you have to like fully prep for that? I could bust it out right now. It's just loud. Would you do it for me? Wait. Wait. Not me fangirling. Okay. Okay, me pushing my mic away too, pretending. Okay, I think that's the right key. So I do take a breath. That's what I do. Okay, take a breath.

33:25I think that was the right key. Maybe it was, I think it was lower. If that wasn't the right key. Maybe it's up there. Yeah. I just got tears in my eyes. Oh, stop it. We, no, no, no, I'm not even gassing you up. Every single woman in this room right now, your voice. Oh, thanks. Getting a little live performance right now. I'm like, I have full chill. But you know, I used to do that. I think that was like when I used to go to these like record labels to be signed. I would be like, and now I'm going to sing acapella for you. Like old school shit. And then they would just literally with their mouth open be like, oh, shit.

34:10She doesn't need any auto tune. I used to sing I would rather go blind. Stop. You like get up on the chair. You're like, are you all ready to be graced with greatness? Sit down. Yes. Zara. Yeah. You have an insane voice. Thanks. Oh, my God. You didn't even do it. Do you do vocal warm ups? You just hit it. I don't. I literally don't. I feel like the first song of the show, Midnight Sun, that is like my warm up. That'll do it. And then I just get like warmed up throughout the show. I'm never going to get over that. First of all, I've also never had someone sing that loud in the Call of Duty studio.

34:47And I am, whoa. Okay. You've been touring for like 10 years. Yeah. I'm assuming you have some wild stories, like things that have happened. But okay. You're like, no. No, I'm doing that face because the craziest thing we do is like throw some candy wraps on the floor in the bus. Stop. Okay. what's the craziest thing that's happened on stage? Ooh. Malfunctions, disasters, people. all the time. All the time. Yeah. But that's just like that showbiz baby. You just gotta suck it up and, and move on.

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40:26or like America in general and the the most fun part I mean obviously to do the show every night which was still like a 45 minute so I got to give them like a good chunk of what I do and who I am and And just the way it was received, I just could never have guessed like how much it was going to do for me because they really felt like maybe it was just my for you, Paige, because that's all it is. Just me, me, me. You're like, they were loving me, Alex, OK? I was thriving on that tour. Me, me, me. But I saw so many videos from it and like people engaging with it. and um even though i don't have twitter i have my friend vandalas she sometimes she sends me like the hit tweets of the week and uh and people were like really really positive and i think also the story of it all i think the lore like people love an underdog and people love to root for someone um who who they feel like is like on the come up a little bit and i think because i've been doing it for such a long time it's like there is so much history to it and there is so much lore it's like this is not like an overnight thing and people could be like wow like she's worked so hard like she deserves this and i think that like adds to it and having two women that are so good at dancing like you're gonna have a good time that night oh for sure and singing both of you are like insane dancers and singers so you're like but it was so incredible because i've been opening for other people before like Ed Sheeran Kygo um yeah love love love love love him I love him but I think that that match was like way better and I've never had it was like it was it was like a lot of people who came to see the opening which I didn't feel was the the vibe for the other people that I've opened for the girlies were out the girlies were out and they were like they came to see it so that was so much fun i know that you had written in an instagram post you kind of called out even though so many like you're saying the comments were so positive the vibes were so positive it was strange seeing people put you and totally against each other which is so sad because it's like kind of expected which is like why do like why is that even the case um what was going on that you think was creating that dynamic what was going on i think um well first of all i've been doing this for longer i'm older and maybe some people felt like i deserve to be in the arena and i'm like well buy the ticket then that's not tate's fault you know what i mean i haven't toured for me this was an amazing opportunity um i think it's just like the nature of how people speak about girls in pop again like coming back to the fucking kia asylum like no one's being put in there except for the pop girls you know is this culture around which i sometimes think it's it's very interesting it could be fun because people are very like engaged in pop girls the girls of pop are kind of pop culture at least in my world but then i think um we are similar in the sense that you know we both dance although she's a way better dancer and i i like i do pop she does pop i think it's like and i think again it's easier to root for someone who is like an underdog you know because once you and i kind of always said this like once you start getting haters that's when you know you're like that bitch yes no it is so true it's like i remember taylor swift's line it's like they want to see you rise but they do not want to see you rain no no it's like they love to come up totally and then the minute you're there they're like what the fuck are you doing there and obviously tate is like massive she had this sold out arena tour like i'm on her tour like opening for her so she's this very successful girl and i think it's just we're both talented but i think people are like why is zara opening for tate well it's not really about talent it's about the me being put in front of a crowd where I haven't like been before so I think it's just it's it's like too easy for people to compare us even though we are we're similar but we're very different and um I don't think that was fun at all for her we haven't spoke about it much but But I think as a human being, you know, like her being so hardworking and talented and just seeing this fucking random Swedish girl come on her tour and be like, the fuck?

45:24Like, you know what I mean? But I did tell her that I was like, I am on your tour. She is incredible. And also being on that tour, I personally have so much respect for the way she works and how hard she works. and the fact that everyone was so lovely. And I think that says a lot about the artist because I definitely do think it trickles down. Like if you have a good boss, she's the boss. She's the one employing all of these hundreds of people. If you have a good head, that makes the whole experience good. And it really was like down to the crew, the dancers, the drivers, like the truck drivers were incredible.

46:07and um i think it's just a classic like also a little bit of misogyny or like there it can't be it can't be two girls being good you know it's so crazy have you had the ability and you don't need to name names to talk to anyone in the industry about this like problem that all of the pop girlies have of just like comparison and everyone pitting you guys against each other hmm not really because i don't really go out but um like in dms and that i think i could definitely because this is something that we're all aware of of course we exist in the universe you know we see things that everyone else is seeing on their timeline we're just people with phones at the end of the day and i think um everyone can relate to it somehow and you know who knows in the future maybe karma comes back around and i have a really great girl opening for me and everyone's like what the fuck like she's you know boo yay boo like it's just it's just crazy the way it is and i think um i just know that i but i love all the girls i really do and I think I think most of the people do I think it's such it's like a cheap shot of putting someone up by putting someone else down it's like you can actually just say wow that was incredible you don't have to put someone else down because of it something I was thinking about with your album is the girl's girl song it's funny you say that because I have something to say about that too on the remix do you want to say it now yes okay let's do it you're like and shut up i have a statement sit back relax and enjoy girls girl it's funny because i did take that song and i turned it into what happens when a girl's girl like i want to be a girl's girl but what happens when a girl's girl wants the spotlight because there's only room for one girl apparently so we all have to have this like be nice and friendly which is the reality of it all and this is at the end of the day just a song but just to like okay but I it's it's that weirdness in the industry but also like that's how I choose to to to twist it to make it a little different and fun oh I like that it's gonna be really fun because the original is it's about realizing you have feelings for your friend's boyfriend and you said that this was inspired by real events at the time what is the story it was inspired it definitely wasn't like the truth and i think um i just love the song i love i love a little story like let's get messy in the story because yes i used to be so messy as a teenager i really i really and now i'm a granny but at 16 um i just like oh girl um we were celebrating new years and yeah my one of my best friends boyfriend he just like he was flirting with me all night and I was really interested in his friend so we were at this party and by the end of the night you know I don't know what it's like for you guys but in europe at 16 that's like you've been drinking for about four years at this point so not so well it depends in the u.s where you grow up but yeah yeah okay so i was like oh i was picking on my jacket everyone was already downstairs we were going somewhere else and yeah he just kind of like started kissing me and i just kissed him back because i was messy like that and i was 16 and really drunk and like i um the fucked up thing about this though was that the girl who's who who we had had the party at she filmed this and i didn't know so before i got the chance to tell my friend what happened the next day she had already got the video sent to her yeah so that that was like really messy but then but the truth is i wasn't really like in love with him or interested in him it was this weird um unforgivable mistake that happened but obviously seeing it it just she just cut me off and all my friends just cut me off and i was as like a floating piece of trash in the universe.

50:47Zara. Yeah. No. Yes. A video? What was her reaction? I don't know because she didn't speak to me for like four years. Like she cut me off. She meant that shit. And I had like clothes, you know, she had clothes at my place. And my mom was like, I can come and pick it up. And she was like, her mom was like, no, we can mail it. Like how far did you guys live from each other? like 10 minutes like mail it yeah no yeah when did you guys ever finally talk yes yes yes and now it's okay and everyone's like on good terms and uh yeah it was one of it was one of my worst mistakes in life like it truly was at 16 i just um if i could take it back i i would so so so bad but i also have to like forgive myself for it because again this is more than 10 years ago now and uh i was just really stupid and messy and also i found out that i can't drink like i just can't because i always do really like my morals and my my just sense of self like it just goes out the window and now i just stick to the edibles i was gonna say and then enter edibles that's when you were like we're gonna stick to this yes truly how has your idea of girls girl evolved over the years as you've become a woman?

52:10I think girls girl is what I'm trying now when I'm like a boss. I feel like I can employ women, you know, I can put like money in their pockets. And I can make sure to uplift and amplify like their voices or again, in the studio, like I want to write with other women, I want to produce with other women, I want to create with other women and I you know just take women very seriously because I think we're so amazing and capable.

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53:41That's why Tinder has astrology mode and music mode. It's an easy way to break the ice and start the conversation. Daddy gang, explore all the possibilities for yourself. Tinder, it starts with a swipe download Tinder today must be 18 plus. There was an interesting article about you recently that I wanted to get your opinion on this quote. They said, there's nothing about Zara Larson's public persona that shows any interest in capturing the validation or attention of straight men. I love that. Is this an accurate statement? I think the older I get, which I do think comes with age a little bit.

54:16I think I because I used to be heavy male centered, even if I didn't want to like admit to it I think even in like having relationships or making sure that I felt like validated and loved by like a man and um it it didn't have to be like people outside of my relationship but even so that was still important to really feel desired by men I think now maybe it's like you turn 25 and like your brain develop but like hitting status return like Just growing up, literally your brain develops. I think I focus so, so, so little on that right now. How have you really managed to de-center men from your life?

54:56Can you give the girls listening a little go-to guide? No, I only want to impress the mean 13-year-old girls. You know what I mean? That's who I want to impress. So real. Yeah. They're looking at your outfit. Yeah, exactly. It's cute. you're like i'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight no i think it's um i i used to crave that so much i don't know if it's like a classic you know my like my dad but like my dad like not and i love my dad and my dad loves me but he was away a lot like you know what i mean like you're like we got to go back to the origin story it's always the dad right what's the relationship with the dad i I wanted my dad's attention.