Major moves in semi stocks... And what’s next for oil 9/2/26

2 Sep 2026 · 44 min · 29 chapters

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In short

Fast Money episode covers: Broadcom’s semi/AI earnings reaction, whether the AI-led stock momentum can continue, and how rates/yields are affecting equities; Snowflake’s strong earnings and guidance; banks’ rebound and what could drive/limit deal activity; oil’s rise tied to a U.S.-Venezuela oil deal; and the NBA’s punishment of Clippers owner Steve Ballmer.

Guests

Stephen DiNicolo (senior portfolio manager, Federated Hermes Kauffman Fund) discusses rates, oil, and investment outlook. Jason Gay (Wall Street Journal sports columnist) explains the Clippers salary-cap circumvention case and implications.

Key claims/examples

Broadcom fell ~3.5% despite revenue/earnings beats due to weaker Q4 guidance and unclear 2027 AI outlook amid competition (Google custom chips, MediaTek/Marvell/AMD). Snowflake jumped ~22% after raising product revenue guidance to $6.1B; 2,000+ customers using Cocoa (9,000+ total). Rates eased as 10-year yields pulled back near 4.8%. Venezuela deal: 17 fields over 100 years; Defense Dept stake 35%; framed as national security to reduce reliance on Middle East oil. NBA: Clippers lose five first-round picks (2029/2033), $30M fine; Kawhi pays $700k; Ballmer suspended one year.

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Broadcom Earnings Report Overview

0:02 to 0:22

Discussion on Broadcom's earnings and disappointing revenue guidance.

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Broadcom Earnings Report Overview

1:50 to 2:14

Discussion on Broadcom's earnings and disappointing revenue guidance.

“But we start with an earnings alert on Broadcom.”

AI Revenue and Competition Insights

2:16 to 2:42

Analysis of Broadcom's AI semiconductor revenue and market competition.

“AI semiconductor revenue, which was a key metric, came in at$16.7 billion, topping the company's own forecast.”

Guidance Concerns and Market Reactions

2:44 to 3:58

Panel discussion on revenue guidance and its impact on Broadcom's stock.

“when the street wants to hear at least$115 billion.”

Market Analysis: Broadcom's Long-term Potential

4:00 to 5:26

In-depth discussion on Broadcom's market positioning and future prospects.

“until their October analyst day, where Marvell says, okay, we're building all the networking and all the other chips, not the TPU business, which pertains to Broadcom.”

NVIDIA Buyback Proposal Discussion

5:28 to 7:24

Controversial discussion on whether NVIDIA should initiate a large buyback.

“So I thought it was a nice, good gross margin beat and a good adjusted EBITDA beat.”

Comparative Analysis: NVIDIA vs. Broadcom

7:25 to 8:17

Comparing NVIDIA's market performance to Broadcom's current situation.

“And when Christina says that they'll say it's not a big deal that Google is giving them a contract, it's one less going to them.”

Buyback Strategies and Market Implications

8:19 to 10:40

Exploring the implications of potential buyback strategies for NVIDIA.

“But if you think about the hyperscalers, they're going away from NVIDIA, making their own chips.”

Snowflake Earnings Report Reaction

12:16 to 13:09

Discussion on Snowflake's impressive earnings and future guidance.

“Those shares are surging after the software company beat on both the top and the bottom lines.”

Market Trends and Future Projections

13:13 to 14:01

Analysis of market trends in relation to Snowflake and other tech companies.

“Shares soared about 35 % in May following first-quarter numbers, raising questions around valuation, its ability to beat these lofty projections going forward.”
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Market Reactions to Earnings Reports

14:01 to 15:03

Analyzing the implications of recent earnings reports on stock valuations.

“Would I if I owned none, which I don't own any, would I buy it right here?”

Introduction to Upcoming Market Topics

15:04 to 15:20

Preview of discussions on banks and bond yields impacting stocks.

“Coming up, banks rallying back with driving strength in financials today.”

Discussion on Market Dynamics and Oil Prices

17:00 to 21:46

Exploring the relationship between bond rates, oil prices, and market reactions.

“Earlier, though, it touched its highest level since November of 2023.”

Exploring Potential Rate Hikes and Market Effects

21:48 to 22:59

Insights on how rate hikes might influence equity markets and investment strategies.

“By the way, Dan wants to get to the next score.”

Sector Analysis: Financials and Investment Outlook

23:00 to 28:00

Discussion about the performance of banks and sectors amid economic changes.

“I think if the Fed were to raise rates, it actually might calm the fears of the bond market in some perverse way.”

Investment Banking Insights

28:00 to 29:10

Discussion on the current state of investment banking and IPOs.

“you talk about investment banking, you're talking about trading.”

Upcoming Crude Oil Discussion

29:10 to 29:45

Teaser for the next segment focusing on crude oil and energy prices.

“plus a major suspension in the NBA of the Clippers owner and former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.”

U.S. and Venezuela Oil Relations

29:50 to 31:00

Discussion about the U.S. government's partnership with Venezuela for oil production.

“Our Brian Sullivan was on the ground in Caracas.”

Venezuela's Investment Climate

31:00 to 32:28

Insights into the investment climate in Venezuela and its implications.

“We've seen great reporting from Brian Sullivan all day.”

Public Sentiment in Venezuela

32:28 to 34:25

Discussion on Venezuelan public sentiment towards the U.S. and recent political changes.

“Mike Worth says to double production is going to take several years.”

Private Equity in Government

34:25 to 35:31

Exploration of how private equity is influencing government decisions.

“And I think we were so jubilant because when Maduro was arrested, we weren't allowed to express anything.”

Refinery Trade and Market Dynamics

35:31 to 36:13

Analysis of the refining trade and its impact on the oil market.

“You look at Philips, you look at Valero, you look at Marathon, all up above at around 100 or way above 100 % year to date.”

NBA Penalties on Clippers Owner

36:24 to 37:18

Details about penalties imposed on the L.A. Clippers owner related to salary cap violations.

“Owner Steve Ballmer and star Kawhi Leonard as a result of charges that the team circumvented the salary cap to pay the NBA All-Star.”

Implications of NBA Penalties

37:18 to 40:05

Discussion on potential impacts and responses to the penalties faced by the Clippers.

“All right, so Steve Ballmer not commenting, but we have had a comment from Kawhi Leonard.”

Franchise Valuation and Ownership Dynamics

40:05 to 42:00

Exploration of how ownership dynamics affect franchise valuation in the NBA.

“But that was under the David Stern NBA, a very different regime than the Adam Silver NBA.”

NBA Franchises and Draft Picks

42:00 to 42:22

Discussion about the Clippers forfeiting draft picks and the implications.

“Then I think you would see a real uproar.”

Berkshire Hathaway's Position in Alphabet

42:33 to 45:52

Analyzing Berkshire Hathaway's stake in Alphabet and its significance.

“Also, here's a sneak peek at the Kramer camp.”

Final Trade Insights

45:52 to 46:08

Panelists share their final trade recommendations and thoughts.

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Final Trade Insights

46:54 to 47:21

Panelists share their final trade recommendations and thoughts.

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1:00Live from the Nasdaq Market Site in the heart of Times Square in New York City, this is Fast Money, and here's what's on tap tonight. Broadcom dropping after its latest earnings report. The semi-giant's guidance, disappointing investors. We're dialed into the conference call. We're going to bring you all the details. And relief on rates, long-term yields pulling back from recent highs and helping stocks rebound. But can the momentum continue after a rough run? We'll debate that. Plus, crude oil rises even as a deal is struck with Venezuela. Alphabet gets a stamp of approval from Berkshire Hathaway.

1:32And Bank Stocks, they catch a bid, but some of the biggest names in the group, they set out the rally. What's behind that divergence? We're going to get some answers. I am Frank Holland in for Melissa Lee, coming to you live from Studio B at the NASDAQ. On the desk tonight, we have Steve Grasso, Karen Finerman, Dan Nathan, and Guy Adami. But we start with an earnings alert on Broadcom. Shares the chipmaker dropping despite an earnings and a revenue beat. Disappointing revenue guidance. It seems to be what's weighing on the stock, pulling back about 3.5%. The call kicked off at the top of the hour.

2:03Let's get right to our Christina Parts and Evelis with all the details. Christina. We just started a minute ago, but Broadcom, like you said, just beat on almost every single line this quarter, and yet the stock is still falling. Revenue up 86 % from a year ago. Earnings beat. AI semiconductor revenue, which was a key metric, came in at$16.7 billion, topping the company's own forecast. And you're wondering, Frank, you brought it up, why are shares down? The outlook does play a big role. Fourth quarter revenue guidance came in a little under what Wall Street wanted. Same for Q4 operating margins.

2:33And on the number investors cared about the most, the new fiscal 2027 AI forecast. Nothing new was actually in the release for that number. So we continue to assume, quote, north of$100 billion, which is what Hawk 10 has provided, when the street wants to hear at least$115 billion. That matters because of what's hanging on the stock, competition. Google is bringing in cheaper second sources for its custom chips with MediaTek, Marvell and AMD all moving in on business Broadcom used to have. I know that there's different tiers, but nonetheless, it's competition. There's still strength here, though.

3:06Management says AI chip revenue jumps to$21.7 billion next quarter. And CEO Hocktan called demand very strong, which is why there is a lot riding on this earnings call that just started two minutes ago. The detail on 2027 and on how Broadcom holds its lead, especially with Google. That matters more than the numbers that are already out. All right. So a lot of questions about that TPU business. That seems to be another thing weighing on the stock. Morgan Stanley out with a note saying they expect Broadcom to keep about 80 percent of that business. So is the idea here that that's what's keeping the guidance from coming out or being increased?

3:39Is that they have some lack of clarity, I would say, on the TPUs? Morgan Stanley may be bullish, but then others are more concerned, saying that MediaTek is scooping in on the lower tier level of the TPU business, or I should say Google's custom chip business. I think what we're missing is what portion of Marvell is actually taking from that business. And they won't release those details until their October analyst day, where Marvell says, okay, we're building all the networking and all the other chips, not the TPU business, which pertains to Broadcom. That's something we still don't have an answer.

4:10So perhaps on the call tonight, Broadcom will say, don't worry, we still have our business, our relationship with Google. Marvell means nothing. All right, I know you'll be listening. Christina Pratsanabalas, thank you very much. Guy, I want to come over to you. Free cash flow is a little light. Street's looking at that. Steve has addressed the problems with free cash flow for some of these companies, although it's still positive. But Christina hit the nail on the head. I mean, it's a fourth quarter guide in terms of revenue, which came in, I think,$34.8 billion, which is lower than the higher end of the whisper number, which I think was about 37.

4:40So 37 or higher. I think the stock is unchanged. It's slightly higher. I think they're sandbagging a little bit. I mean, margins are holding intact, I think. Gross margins were 75%. The street was looking for 73.7 percent. Operating margins were better than expected and up year over year. Good for them. So I think given, you know, it's funny. If you go back about, what, three or four quarters, Dan, when Broadcom had that huge move to the upside that didn't make a lot of sense and had subsequently sold off, I think the converse is happening here, the inverse, that we're selling off on a quarter where you actually might want to think about buying Broadcom here.

5:14All right, Karen, I agree with that take that you might think about jumping in here. Broadcom's also lagged the rest of the chip sector all year. Yeah, by a lot. I mean, the quarter, actually, I didn't think was bad. I thought the quarter was good. To your point, Guy, the margins were good. Revenue a little beat, but the expense is a little lower. So I thought it was a nice, good gross margin beat and a good adjusted EBITDA beat. So I don't know. This one's sort of interesting, though. I do really think you have to listen to the call. You have to hear the color. I don't know if they're going to address this issue.

5:43You know, we're talking about it has to be north of 100,$115 billion. I don't know if last time that was in the guidance or it was on the call. I have a vague recollection of the call, but at me if I'm wrong. But you need to listen to the conference call. Yeah, I think that they put out some of those huge annual guidance figures and the out year on maybe some analyst meeting, not always on the call. But I think the problem right here is that you have a story where there's so many other competitors right now that are actually doing very well. And even in video, you know, like the numbers that they're putting up are really eye popping.

6:14So then when you look at this sort of, you know, mild beat and not a fantastic raise, it's just not particularly interesting, especially with this valuation. And, you know, here's a scenario where the entire street, I think Kay Parts just kind of mentioned this, some of the back and forth with the analysts. There's 60 analysts who cover the stock. Fifty five have a buy on it. Five have a hold. And you get a setup here where obviously the street investors are not in the same camp because the stock wouldn't be trading the way it has. It's basically the exact same spot it was a year ago. So when you're just kind of, you know, guiding up and then beating that guy just a little bit and then the guy is not that exciting for the out quarter, you know, it's just not that interesting.

6:52So I think there's probably better places to play where you'll find more value. And I think we're going to keep coming back to this. And this has been Karen's play for a very long time. When you have a company like NVIDIA that is beating like so aggressively and it just doesn't seem to have that margin degradation that a lot of folks were calling for with all this competition. it seems like there's a huge disconnect where that stock is trading and the numbers that they're putting up and they keep going higher and higher every quarter versus a story like this. And when you look at it, to Karen's point, they have underperformed.

7:20When you look at Marvell, the stock's up 143 percent year to date. You look at AVGO considerably less than that. And when Christina says that they'll say it's not a big deal that Google is giving them a contract, it's one less going to them. So they're the number one revenue supplier to their bottom line or their top line. I think it's a big deal. I think that when you look at the competition, it's a big deal. But coming out of NVIDIA, you would have thought that it would have done well. I would have said that with NVIDIA, granted, the lead up to NVIDIA's earnings were probably set up perfect to perfection for them.

8:01I would have been a buyer of Broadcom. But when you look and you say, would you rather? you know, I still think it's a buy. But when you look at a Marvell, that's where the hot money is going in because they're the one at the top right now. Broadcom's the one at the top. They're the ones that have the market share that's being stolen. But if you think about the hyperscalers, they're going away from NVIDIA, making their own chips. So Marvell, Broadcom should be the winner. Obviously, Marvell has won up until this date, but I think AVGO gets interesting on a sell-off. All right, call about eight minutes in.

8:34shares of Broadcom pulling back about 3.5%. Meantime, NVIDIA shares ending up about 3 % higher today. Our Jim Cramer on Squawk on the Street made a very big call on what Jensen Wogg should do right now with a big chunk of NVIDIA's money. I called for a half a trillion dollar buyback. Out of NVIDIA? Yes. He needs that. You've been talking about this Luca-like. They got to go Apple. It's the first time I put a number on it, half a trillion. So almost 10 percent of the market cap. Oh, yeah. They have to. I mean, remember, Apple bought back 44 percent. I'm just starting with this buyback. I think it's so much better than giving it to Nebius.

9:14So should NVIDIA buy back a half a trillion dollars of its own stock? Dan? I mean, it should if they maybe pull back in some of the investments that they're making in the ecosystem. I mean, I think at these sorts of levels and this valuation, it might make a lot of sense to kind of shrink that share count. And for Apple, it really did serve as a tailwind. I think they bought back maybe three quarters of a trillion dollars since they announced that going back to 2012 when Tim Cook took over. And so they've also paid back at least a quarter of a trillion dollars in dividends. Obviously, NVIDIA pays a dividend.

9:47But, you know, I guess you've got to ask the question, are there better uses of their cash right now? And especially you're getting to a point where there's a lot of, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of questioning of a lot of these circular deals. They're getting a bit more complicated as it goes. And I would almost kind of get it out there. You don't actually have to start buying back the stock. You can announce that sort of stock buyback. And you can kind of be, I don't know, a little opportunistic, if you will, because at some point, if you look at the rest of the space, stocks does not trade well.

10:13A lot of these stocks do not trade particularly well. You can make the same argument despite NVIDIA making a new high today. Just look at that chart. It's been going sideways for months and months. So to have that in the kitty and ready to go, that makes some sense. And, you know, Jensen seems pretty optimistic about their roadmap here. So, again, maybe that is a good use of capital. And Jim's right, 10 % of the share count. That would easily buoy this stock in difficult times. You know, his whole point was that there's nothing more valuable in the market than NVIDIA, so why not buy back your own shares?

10:40Do you agree with that thesis that this is the best way to put their money to work? I think it's not a bad way to put their money to work. I don't think it's, you know, that large of a, what does he want to do,$500 billion? That seems pretty large. It's more than the cash that they have. They do have incredible cash flow. So over the next two or three years, they could probably afford that. But it's not all or none. But they do have, I think, currently maybe an$80 billion buyback in place, which seems small. Is it$100 now? That's sort of maybe adorable compared to what Jim wants. But it could be somewhere in between.

11:12I think they deserve to have the streets say, all right, you've been good stewards of your capital. So continue to do that. If the way you think is not buybacks and something else, I sort of say, all right, they've earned that. Adorable? Or you want to do a 10th of the market cap? You like adorable? I mean, listen, half a trillion dollars. We've seen companies buy more than 10 % of their stock back, and that is, or 10 % of their market cap back. That's exactly what the math is, as David just sort of pointed out in the clip. So I don't think it's ridiculous. I don't think they have the balance sheet for it currently, I don't think, but obviously, I'm sure they could raise money pretty easily.

11:49What I'll say is this. We talk about how cheap NVIDIA is all the time. It does not trade at a market multiple. Some of their peers, to the extent that you think they have peers, trades at twice the multiple. So they could easily come out and say, we don't think the market's rewarding us for our growth. And, yeah, we're going to do an aggressive stock buyback here. The market would absolutely fall in love with that. However, to Karen's point, you know, are there better ways? They've been great stewards of capital so far, so we'll see. All right, we're going to turn to an earnings alert now on Snowflake.

12:16Those shares are surging after the software company beat on both the top and the bottom lines. The company also raising its full-year product revenue guidance. Our Seema Modi has the details. And Frank, that was key. Guidance going up to$6.1 billion, up from its previous outlook of$5.8 billion, surpassing expectations. A strong guide from Snowflake underscoring the continued increase in demand for its data warehousing services and reinforces this notion that as AI usage increases, the large language models are leaning more on cloud infrastructure companies like Snowflake. And by the way, cloud customer adoption is increasing too.

12:51More than 2 ,000 customers began using its AI tool, Cocoa, increasing the total to over 9 ,000. And the CEO, Shreether Ramaswamy, on the call just saying, our first-party AI products continue to see rapid adoption. The upbeat outlook is also quieting fears over competition from the likes of Microsoft and Databricks, which provides similar services and is rumored to go public soon. Now, going into today's report, the setup, Frank, was challenging. Shares soared about 35 % in May following first-quarter numbers, raising questions around valuation, its ability to beat these lofty projections going forward.

13:25But here we are, which shares up about 22 percent. All right, Seema, thank you very much. Also, you want to catch Snowflake's CEO on Squawk on the street tomorrow morning. Seema, thank you again. Grasso, coming over to you. Yeah, so this is one where it's a bifurcated market, where you see some companies report and they have great earnings, but the guide's not as good. And they're all consumption models, So it's not just about subscription. So you have to see which one still has momentum. A jump of 22 percent. That was momentum that shocked the streets. Snowflake is probably still the name to go to in this space.

13:55Karen, it was pretty impressive. I mean, on so many metrics, everything going right. It's I'm sort of surprised. It was a great, great quarter. Great guidance. Also want to hear the call. But there's a lot to love here. Would I if I owned none, which I don't own any, would I buy it right here? Probably not. Dan, I don't really have opinion. I mean, it's just had a big run and a good quarter, good guidance. I mean, we're just so long into this earnings season right now. And just like I almost feel like let's clear the decks and let's start focusing on what Q3 looks like in the back half of the year getting into Q4.

14:27So, again, sorry, I don't have an opinion here. This is a case where clearly the market doesn't have a great concern about valuation because the valuation at current price, regardless of what they reported and what they guided to, is pretty extraordinary. And, again, it goes back to the conversation we just had about NVIDIA. I know they're not in the same world. I'm not making that comparison. The comparison I'm making is the market's clearly rewarding Snowflake that doesn't have nearly the metrics or the growth trajectory of an NVIDIA, and it's trading at a many multiple of what NVIDIA is trading at.

14:57So it's some of the disconnect that's going on. I don't think, in my opinion, you're not chasing Snowflake here, I don't think. All right, we'll leave it there. Coming up, banks rallying back with driving strength in financials today. And should you bank on fresh highs for the group to come? But first, 10-year yields pulling back after hitting nearly three-year highs earlier in the session. What it means for stocks, what does it mean for the rest of your money? Do not go anywhere. Fast Money's back in tune.

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16:55Learn more at schwab.com slash trading. Welcome back to Fast Money. Rates off their highs of the day. The 10-year hovering right around 4.8%. Earlier, though, it touched its highest level since November of 2023. Still, that was just enough to give some relief to stocks. The major index is all breaking their three-day losing streaks. For more on what's next for the markets, let's bring in Stephen DiNicolo. He's a senior portfolio manager for Federated Hermes Kauffman Fund. Stephen, great to have you here. Thanks for having me. All right, so what is next? It seems like oil bond rates, they're just kind of tied together.

17:27We saw WTI up over 90, Brent over 95, bond yields moving up higher. Is it just that simple? Does that continue to, that dynamic just continue? you? Well, it's never that simple. So thanks for the easy question. But look, this is the typical sort of end of summer chop that you expect to get. We had a weird comments out of Warsh at Jackson Hole last week. We're dropping bombs in Iran. Interest rates are going up and all of these things are sort of coming together with uncertainty. At the same time, we are debating whether AI is good or not. I heard somebody talking in the previous segment about Broadcom and the 60 analysts who cover Broadcom.

18:05Well, there's 82 analysts who cover Nvidia on Wall Street. This is the most covered stock in history tied with Amazon for coverage. And they said just last week, although it feels like a year ago at this point, they said things are 75 % better than what we thought two weeks ago. That is how much off we were on just a one-year look forward, right? And so the AI trade is 75 % better than what we thought. So what does that mean? That means a tremendous amount of opportunity, especially as you start going down cap in the AI infrastructure names out there. And I think once you get through this summer swoon and we get through the midterm elections, it's going to be the Santa Claus rally and it's going to be game on because business is actually pretty good out there.

18:50Yeah, it's game on without question in the bond market. If it was just a U.S. thing, I would somewhat agree. It's not, though. It's a global thing. It's going on all across the planet. I mean, Japan seemingly this powder keg that somebody wants to ignite. There seemingly was some sort of intervention today or somebody said something because I saw the yen strengthened. But there are a lot of factors at work that suggest rates globally are going to continue to go higher. Well, look, luckily we had the New York Fed president today say he thinks oil and tariffs. And I'm not going to use the word transitory, but probably are peaking right now.

19:25And so I think the way you have to look at it is maybe we get a hike. Maybe we don't in September. And it's the big bad event. And we get past it. And then we get back to actual fundamentals that the Federated Kauffman Funds, look, we buy assets. We buy appreciating assets that are generating real cash flow. And over time, especially as you go down cap, over time, these are going to be great sources of appreciation. So, Stephen, I'll piggyback where you just left off. The market, every market always sets up to hurt the most amount of people at any given time. And it seems like, to Guy's point, the rest of the world is raising rates, but they have single mandates in their central banks.

20:02We have multiple in ours. So I think it's a different nuance to it. So I'll give you a which happens first. Do you see a break of 50 basis points higher or 50 basis points lower in the next three months? I'll give you that. Oh, boy. I'm going to choose the under on that. Look, I think that if something can't happen or shouldn't happen, it usually doesn't. And whether it's the markets or life, they're usually up and to the right. And I think that that can't happen and that won't happen and that there's plenty of firepower behind us to keep that from happening. And today's news from the New York Fed really sort of, you know, comforts me on what the future holds.

20:41You know, Stephen, earlier you said I gave you a softball. I want to bounce something else off of you. BeigeBook, they said data centers were driving a lot of the economic activity. At the same time, I'm talking to a lot of investors. They believe we're going to see a broadening trade and they like cyclical. So do you like cyclicals with the idea that we may see a Fed rate hike? Look, I don't think you can get a cyclical move higher and higher rates. They don't sort of go together. It will hurt cyclical trades for sure. And so, look, I don't think that I think 50 basis points plus or minus is irrelevant when we are entering a generation, a generational opportunity for investment in the U.S.

21:17We have 30 years of factories moving offshore, not just data centers, just everything. And now I spend my time visiting companies in the middle of the country. And if you're a plumber, if you're an HVAC guy, you're busy right now. You don't have enough work out there. And so you don't have enough time for all the work you have out there. So I think the economy is generally strong. I think we get through this. And I think earnings are 75 percent better than we thought two weeks ago. Right. And so that's pretty good. Steven, we've got to leave the conversation there. By the way, Dan wants to get to the next score.

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21:51He's tired of these earnings. Great to see you, man. Thank you very much. Karen, coming over to you. Look, I'm always long. And I'm always long whether that's the right thing to be or the wrong thing to be. But I'm still long AI, but I also have financials, health care, energy. Those are probably my – and banks as well. Those are all big allocations. Steve? Yeah, I don't think – I had a belief that we weren't going to see a rate hike. But I think the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, getting in front of this and using the Treasury fund to buy the long end and to figure out ways to moderate the long end.

22:28I feel as if they know it's stacked against them or they're preparing for the inevitability that we are going to see a rate hike. So I'm a little unclear on that. I still think we stay sort of sideways. I don't think we get a cut, but I think we stay sideways into year end. Guy, coming over to you. Is a rate hike, does that create competition from the bond market for equities? Does it just create kind of a ceiling on where equities can go? I mean, what happens if we get that rate hike? I said, I talked to a lot of people. They see a broadening. Where do you see this all going? I'll say something that I'm going to get a lot of Twitter hate on and might snicker at me.

23:02I think if the Fed were to raise rates, it actually might calm the fears of the bond market in some perverse way. And I think the back end of the curve might behave in a way that you don't anticipate rates actually going lower. Now, that's counter to a lot of people think, I'm sure, and I'm not necessarily 100 percent certain what happened. But it's not out of the realm of possibility because I think a lot of people then be walked off the ledge and you'd see stability for the first time in a couple of years. All right. Coming up, Venezuela's oil. It's back in play with the deal to get the U.S.

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25:27Welcome back to Fast Money. Stocks snapping a three-day losing streak. The Dow adding 300 points. The S &P and the Nasdaq each gaining a half a percent. And the Nasdaq 100 up about a quarter of 1%. Uber rising at percent and a half after announcing plans to cut 3 ,300 jobs or 10 % of its workforce. The CEO writing in a memo, the cuts are aimed at consolidating teams and concentrating workers in a smaller number of key hubs. Jack Daniels maker Brown Foreman jumping almost 4 % even after missing sales estimates this morning. The company maintaining its full year guidance and also warning that macro pressures and geopolitical instability are weighing on consumer behavior.

26:04Some more after hours action to bring to you. HP Enterprise down despite better than expected results and guidance, five below higher after its beat and raise in PVH higher, even after the Calvin Klein parent company gave some lackluster guidance. By the way, the HPE CEO is going to be on Squawk on the Street tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern time. Banks also bouncing back today after hitting more than two-month lows just a day ago. Both the KBE and the KRE Regional Bank ETF up 2 % or more, but a couple big names, they just weren't able to hold on to their early momentum. We're talking J.P. Morgan, Bank of America, Citigroup, as well as a number of others closing well off their session highs.

26:42Karen. Yeah, so I like the bank sector. I love J.P. Morgan. I like Citibank as well. You know, I think SpaceX was sort of a moment for all of those banks. Remember, Goldman Sachs had that gigantic quarter not long after that, And all the banks really rallied. And then I think, you know, Iran heated up again and oil started to move and all of that. But they've come in. But I still think I like the banks. I think that they're going to see a lot of efficiencies from AI. I think that credit quality is good. The consumer is still spending. Their consumers are still spending. And if you're in the debt capital markets business, equity capital markets business, trading, yes, all of that is great.

27:20So I'm staying long for sure. If I own no city, I would buy it right here. Dan? Yeah, it's interesting that you just mentioned consumer credit. And by all means, it looks like it's hanging in there, especially for that top part of the K. And I think there's some bubbling up on some of the lower end. And, you know, I've just been kind of focused on Capital One and American Express. It's kind of hitting two of those sort of, you know, demos, if you will. And those stocks really can't get out of their own way. And, again, that doesn't mean that their users are having problems. It doesn't mean that we get data on defaults and delinquencies and that sort of thing.

27:54But through the lens of the market, I mean, those two stocks I find are very, very interesting. To Karen's point about if you're talking about equity capital markets, debt capital markets, you talk about investment banking, you're talking about trading. We saw amazing numbers out of all of these banks over this last quarter and guidance that worked pretty well. But I'll just say this. If higher rates, if higher oil, if uncertainty around geopolitics, if we see any blips in the AI trade, these deals are not coming. I mean, these big trillion-dollar-plus deals. If Anthropic gets pushed out in the next year and by all means they want to get it done pretty soon, then you're going to see these banks kind of come in and specifically probably Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs.

28:31Grasso. Yeah, I do think Karen's point on the IPO market where you saw this rush in and they all got had a huge payday. But I still believe that the IPO market is open and it's not only open for those high profile names. It's open for a lot of other names as well. But if you look at specifically Wells Fargo, different animal, different breed, it's actually breaking out now on a chart. So not to get too specific and granular, I would choose Wells Fargo over the balance for a host of different reasons. Underperformed, then caught up and has underperformed recently. The chart looks like it's really breaking out to me right now.

29:05All right. Look at Wells Fargo finished up about two and a half percent. All right. Coming up, the next move for crude. what the latest flare-up with Iran could mean for energy prices, plus a major suspension in the NBA of the Clippers owner and former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. We'll have all the details when Fast Money returns. Stay with us. Missed a moment of Fast? Catch us anytime on the go. Follow the Fast Money podcast. We're back right after this.

29:44Welcome back to Fast Money. Meantime, oil prices up again today as new details emerge from the U.S. Venezuela oil deal. Our Brian Sullivan was on the ground in Caracas. We spoke with Energy Secretary Chris Wright about the U.S. government's partnership with a private company to develop 17 Venezuelan oil fields over 100 years, with the Defense Department taking a 35 percent stake. Brian also sat down with Chevron CEO Mike Wirth about the company's separate deal with Venezuela and the structural changes that made that possible. We've seen a significant change in the fiscal and commercial terms and the legal framework for investments in Venezuela.

30:21This has been negotiated over the last several months. There's a new petroleum law that's been put in place, and that has changed the taxes, the royalties, other terms around investment, and has taken us from not being very competitive within our set of alternatives to something that's very competitive versus our options around the world, which is why we're willing to commit significant capital and grow the way we are. For more, we're joined right here on set by Michelle Caruso Cabrera, CEO of MCC Global Enterprise. It's big. And the CBC Conspirator. It's a pleasure to be here, ladies and gentlemen.

30:55Got to get all the applause out. You were also recently on the ground in Venezuela. Thank you for joining us tonight. So we just heard from Mike Worth. We've seen great reporting from Brian Sullivan all day. I think the question for a lot of people is exactly what is the state of play in Venezuela? Mike Worth, he just kind of alluded to it that the situation has changed a bit. There's an interim president, Delce Rodriguez. And I think the question, the other question is, back in 2007, Conoco and Exxon, they had things seized, their property and their assets. Has that completely changed? Is it safe to invest and put capital there now?

31:23Yeah, Venezuela has a terrible track record. And what happened today with Chevron announcing a separate deal from the United States was meant to put that to rest, to say it is safe to come back. I would say the other thing that was achieved through this is when I was on the ground in Venezuela, there was consternation that there hadn't been enough movement when it came to the oil sector with enough deals with smaller players trying to get things done. They didn't know if it was lack of capacity, lack of desire. But this certainly turbocharges the situation and gets oil up and running faster. And that's important because the United States, it's in the national interest of the United States.

31:59You know, they arrested Maduro. You broke it. You bought it. You need to stabilize this place. You need to start increasing the amount of revenue coming into the country. So that way you can stop the mass migration that was so pervasive for the last 20 years. You know, eight million people leaving the country. So there's a lot of things that this deal the White House believes achieves for them. It's great having you here. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve got below 300 million barrels. That's sort of the line in the sand. There's a school of thought. I think the president believes is that this could be the key to refilling it.

32:28Is it that simple? So it's going to take a while. Right. Mike Worth says to double production is going to take several years. So I don't know that what happens there today is going into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. But this is certainly about reducing the reliance on Middle Eastern oil for sure. Will it take a while to get up and running? Yes, of course. But, you know, in real estate, you use the term place has got a load, has good bones. But as well, it's got good bones. They used to produce more than three million barrels a day. They know how to do this. They need investment. They need less corruption, et cetera.

32:59And bringing in American companies, I think, is going to help them achieve that. So this has also been framed as kind of a national security deal. It's another source of oil here in the Western Hemisphere. But why Venezuela? will. Why not try to strike a deal with Argentina, where they also have oil reserves, or obviously in Guyana, where there's very rich oil reserves as well? I think the White House would say all of the above. They want all of that, right? Argentina is living through an oil boom right now that they've never experienced before. It's super important for them because they lack dollars and they really need them to stabilize their currency.

33:28Guyana is going to be an incredible source of oil. I think all of those things for the United States are extremely important. The other thing I would say in terms of national security is the White House was very up front saying that the fields that they're taking right now are paying for or doing a deal about, they were taken from the Russians and the Chinese. So this is also, Marco Rubio said, this is also about eliminating the Russians and the Chinese from the Western Hemisphere. Can I ask you, what's the vibe there in Venezuela? How do they feel about the United States presence? And what's the, are they optimistic?

34:02So the polling shows that President Trump is incredibly popular. Throughout Latin America, he was incredibly popular after this move with Maduro. People were absolutely thrilled with it. When it happened, they could not cheer because a lot of the old regime was still in place. But behind closed doors, they could tell you they were very, very excited. You know, they won the baseball World Series. And one person said to me, you know, we were so ecstatic. We were so thrilled. And I think we were so jubilant because when Maduro was arrested, we weren't allowed to express anything. We had to stay quiet.

34:36So when we won the Baseball World Series, it was a way to express joy that they hadn't previously been allowed to express. One other question for you. The Department of War taking a 35 percent stakeout. I don't know about you. I wasn't aware they had private equity investors inside that department. Exactly how does that work and how does America reap the benefits? Well, Steve Feinberg is number two in the Pentagon, right? And he's a private equity guy. And so he's brought in a lot of private equity people. I mean, you put private equity people in a government, they want to do deals, right? Every, you know, a hammer thinks everything's a nail, right?

35:09So they like to solve a lot of issues by proposing deals. I think it's just their natural way to think. So this is the Office of Strategic Capital. They brought in a lot of money that they can use to try to advance what they think are the national security interests of the United States when it comes to critical minerals, when it comes to semiconductors, and when it comes to oil. MCC, it is always a pleasure to see you. Thank you very much from that on-the-ground insight from Venezuela. Thank you. Brasso, come on with you. The real trade are the refiner still. They've had unbelievable years. You look at Philips, you look at Valero, you look at Marathon, all up above at around 100 or way above 100 % year to date.

35:46Those are the ones that are going to be refining this heavy, sour crude where we are set up for light sweet. but these refiners in the Gulf are capable of doing it. This trade extends longer than most people thought it would. Crack spreads are at all-time highs. It probably goes higher. All right, coming up, the NBA handing down a big penalty to the L.A. Clippers owner, Steve Ballmer. All the details and the implications right after this break. Fast Money's back right after this.

36:23Welcome back to Fast Money, a developing story at this hour with the NBA throwing the book at the L.A. Clippers. Owner Steve Ballmer and star Kawhi Leonard as a result of charges that the team circumvented the salary cap to pay the NBA All-Star. The Clippers will lose five first-round draft picks beginning in 2029. The team's going to be fined$30 million. Kawhi Leonard will have to pay the league$700 ,000 for his part in the scandal. And this is the big one. owner Steve Ballmer will be suspended from all league and all team activities for one year. The Clippers reacting, telling CNBC, we vehemently reject the NBA's findings, which are the result of a heavily biased investigation seeking to justify a predetermined narrative rather than facts and evidence.

37:05What the league told us privately differs from what it announced today publicly. The Clippers say they intend to challenge the decision. Ballmer himself has yet to comment. Joining us now on the Fast Line is Jason Gay, sports columnist at The Wall Street Journal. Jason, thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. All right, so Steve Ballmer not commenting, but we have had a comment from Kawhi Leonard. He essentially is taking responsibility for lapses of judgment by people in his inner circle, and he says he regressed the distraction. Give us the sense of how you see all this. Can the Clippers actually challenge this, and what happens next in this process?

37:41Sure. I mean, the funny part is, of course, is that Kawhi is moving on. He has been traded. He's off back to Toronto where he won a championship before joining the Clippers in 2019. As for the Clippers, the real pain here is going to be those draft picks. That is obviously a key team-building part of the way NBA teams are constructed. And to lose picks in that kind of succession is a real, real injury. In terms of options that the Clippers have, I mean, they're making, obviously, you know, a lot of noise about taking this to some other forum, you know, some sort of arbitration process. I don't know exactly the mechanics of how that will work.

38:23I mean, obviously, they are part of the NBA here. But this is a rather unprecedented situation. Jason, it's Karen Feinerman. Thanks for being on. And so I doubt that I actually I guess I'm almost certain other teams might have some sort of unusual sort of deals with players. Do you think they should just consider abandoning or restructuring the entire cap structure? Well, I mean, let's go specifically to what is being investigated here and why the NBA had the rule that it had, which was that it was to kind of alleviate any sort of back, you know, end deals, you know, surreptitious dealings that would add financial weight to a league that has a hard salary cap.

39:13And if you don't police that, you create all sorts of opportunity and incentives for teams to construct situations and packages like this. And then what kind of cap structure do you actually have after that? I think that's why the Azul's exist. What happens in this Locktell Report is that they make it pretty clear that the Clippers were quite aware of this circumstance because they had, in fact, been penalized before with a player, DeAndre Jordan, before Kawhi Leonard. And, in fact, Leonard's case is pretty well known around the NBA that there had been discussions with multiple teams about potential additional financial opportunities for Leonard and that teams were advised to not enter into those kinds of agreements.

39:57So, Jason, about 25 years ago, we saw a similar situation with Joe Smith, a player. Yeah. And that team also lost, the Minnesota Timberwolves. They lost five first-round draft picks. But that was under the David Stern NBA, a very different regime than the Adam Silver NBA. So I want to ask you, does Adam Silver, does they have the support of the other owners and the people in the league to maintain these five draft picks being forfeited? Or do you see the Clippers having the potential to maybe lobby the other owners and say, hey, you know, this is an extreme penalty. I mean, it's not quite a death sentence, but it's certainly extreme.

40:28I think you're going to have both. I mean, I think you're going to have people, you know, lobbying on behalf of the Clippers. And I think you're going to have people who appreciate that the league took a hard position on this. I mean, let's not also forget that Adam Silver is forever tethered to Steve Ballmer and the Clippers because Steve Ballmer was the owner who came in and purchased the Clippers amid another crisis with previous owner Donald Sterling. This has to be, you know, quite surreal for this to be entangling his commissionership again. You know, the complexion of the NBA has changed quite a bit as well.

40:59A lot of private equity money coming in. It's just a different NBA from family ownership. So with these new owners, do you think they want to see a harsh penalty to someone like a Steve Ballmer? And, of course, there's a lot of deals in play, whether it's the Lakers or other teams. Do you think this might have a chilling effect that an owner can say, hey, you know, I can be penalized? very harshly if I'm trying to run my team even slightly beyond, you know, the line that's been set by Adam Silver. Right. I mean, just to go into the macro here, I think that the name of the game is for individual owners and ownership groups is franchise valuation.

41:33And yes, there are ownership groups that are, you know, in under the hood, looking at the mechanics of the caps and team construction and winning and all that. But at the end of the day, this has become sort of an asset class that is managed as such. And the particular small, you know, debates over, you know, caps and the structuring of deals, I don't think are as much a material issue for owners as if you had something that was affecting the bottom line, affecting the valuations of these franchises. Then I think you would see a real uproar. To date, we haven't seen anything like this. In fact, we've seen quite the contrary with these franchises just exploiting the value.

42:12All right. As it stands right now, the Clippers are going to forfeit draft picks from 2029 and 2033. Also, owner Steve Ballmer suspended from all activities for one year. Jason Gay, thanks for helping us break this down. Cheers. Thank you. All right, coming up here on Fast Money, a big alphabet. Berkshire Hathaway's CEO spoke to CNBC about his third largest position while he's staying bullish on the hyperscaler despite recent weakness. Also, here's a sneak peek at the Kramer camp. Jim's chatting exclusively with the CEO of Rubrik. Catch that full interview at the top of the hour on Mad Money. Much more Fast coming up in two.

42:54All right. Welcome back to Fast Money. Shares of Broadcom are racing early losses, climbing into positive territory, up just about 1 % right now. The CEO on the call raising fiscal 2026 AI revenue guidance to 58 billion from 56 billion. That's a 186 % increase from last year. He also said the company's on target to exceed EPS of 30 bucks in fiscal 2028. Meantime, Berkshire Hathaway CEO Greg Abel on Squawk Box earlier today digging into the company's stake in Alphabet. Here's what he had to say. I called Warren and I said, we had a significant opportunity to invest in, continue to invest in Google, but with a significant block.

43:35Discuss the size. They hadn't set the size, but recommended that we consider$10 billion. And Warren and I discussed the size. We discussed the size of discount. And I'd recommended 6.5 % discount. And we were comfortable with that. That stake now worth about$37 billion, Alphabet's Berkshire's third largest stake, the Google parent, under some pressure recently, having put in a fourth straight losing month and down over 12 % since the start of May. Karen. I like it. It's one of my biggest positions. I mean, I like the Berkshire owns it. That's the kind of holder that you want. But I think, you know, the hyperscalers, they're in favor.

44:13They're out of favor. You know, we'll see the new model released today. We'll see if that is enough to sort of goose the stock again. But it's not crazy expensive. I like it. Dan? I think this is so much more than a hyperscaler. And I know that that's what you buy into. If you think about it, they have the TPU. They have distribution across so many different platforms, including Android. They have DeepMind. And, you know, they're able to use this infrastructure to serve their, like, biggest businesses, right? And they also have GCP, which sits there just waiting for enterprises to do this. You talk about the models that come out of the lab.

44:47So, to me, this is, like, the most diversified way to play AI going forward, especially if you think that, you know, some of the hyperscalers or a meta or some of these other inputs, you know, input suppliers, that sort of thing, are probably tapped out. This is the one, I think, that gets bought on big pullbacks. And you have search. And you have. And Waymo. And Waymo. Search funds everything else. Right. And YouTube. Yeah. Got a lot of stuff. Guy? And you have a valuation, as Karen said. I mean, it's a market multiple for a premier. I mean, it's a premier franchise. Their moat is still very wide and very deep, I think.

45:21I mean, the existential risk we talked about a year ago has not come to fruition. So I'm with Karen on this one. I think the problem is they went to where we started the show. Free cash flow negative for the first time since the IPO. and with everything from ads to search, funding the AI spend, you're at that tipping point where they have to find that right balance between what they're bringing in and that free cash flow machine because it wasn't the right balance. The stock paid for it. Hopefully they get it. Yeah, Abel calling Alphabet a significant player in the AI trade. So giving a vote of confidence.

45:52All right, coming up next on Fast Money, we got your final trade. Stay with us.

46:07welcome back time for the final trade let's go around the horn steve paypal deal was off stock plunged now you start to see it rallied back i think it's going to go much higher from here yeah so if it's good enough for abel and it's good enough for berkshire hathaway and for f block it's good enough for my final trade google dan yeah broadcom moves down is up i was not impressed with much of that came out of there um i wouldn't be buying it here at people Given the Clippers draft history, the NBA is doing them a huge favor. Just take a look at what they've done. Halliburton, young man. Halliburton.

46:38Tyrese Halliburton? No, H-A-L. All right, thank you for watching Fast Money. Mad Money with Jim Cramer. It starts right now.

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