Alex Edelman

26 Aug 2024 · 1 h

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Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Episode with Alex Edelman

Episode Overview In this episode of *Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend*, comedian Alex Edelman expresses his apprehension about befriending Conan O'Brien. The conversation traverses topics from their shared roots in Brookline, MA, to Edelman's one-man show *Just For Us*, and dives into the nuances of comedy and empathy.

Key Themes and Topics

  1. Apprehension of Friendship
  2. Alex Edelman opens the episode by humorously admitting his anxiety about becoming friends with Conan O'Brien.
  1. Brookline, Massachusetts
  2. Shared Hometown: Both Conan and Alex discuss their upbringing in Brookline, emphasizing its unique cultural blend of Jewish and Irish Catholic influences.
  3. Childhood Stories: They share nostalgic anecdotes about their childhood experiences, including attending bar mitzvahs and the oddities of growing up in their town.
  1. Edelman's Show *Just For Us*
  2. Content and Tone: Conan praises Edelman's Emmy-nominated show, noting its blend of humor and humanity while tackling difficult topics like identity and white nationalism.
  3. Empathy in Comedy: Edelman emphasizes the need for empathy in his work, sharing how he approaches sensitive subjects with humor rather than anger.
  1. Personal Reflection and Collaboration
  2. Loss of Collaborator: The conversation shifts to Edelman's late director and friend, Adam Brace, and how his passing impacts Edelman's creative process and future work.
  3. Future Projects: Alex hints at his next show, which will focus on the complex issues surrounding Israel and Palestine, a challenging subject but one he feels compelled to address.
  1. Comedy and Critique
  2. Influences and Style: They discuss the evolution of comedy, referencing historical figures like Bob Newhart and Johnnie Carson, as well as their personal influences in comedy.
  3. Engaging with Audiences: Edelman shares his practice of engaging with audiences post-show, offering a unique opportunity for dialogue that reflects the themes of his performance.
  1. Humor in Serious Topics
  2. Navigating Difficult Conversations: Both Conan and Alex highlight the importance of discussing serious issues in a way that fosters understanding rather than division.
  3. Comedy as a Vehicle for Discussion: Edelman mentions how he utilizes comedy to provoke thought and conversation on contentious subjects.
  1. Listener Interaction Segment: Review the Reviewers
  2. Humorous Commentary on Reviews: Conan and his team delve into listener feedback, sharing whimsical and funny reviews, while engaging in their signature comedic banter.

Key Takeaways

  • Empathy is Crucial: Both comedians stress the importance of empathy in comedy, especially when tackling sensitive topics.
  • The Role of Comedy in Addressing Identity: Edelman’s work challenges societal norms and invites conversation about identity and race.
  • Connection Through Shared Backgrounds: The bond formed by their shared hometown and experiences illustrates how personal history can shape comedic perspectives.

Conclusion This episode not only provides a humorous take on the complexities of friendship and identity but also highlights the power of comedy as a tool for empathy and understanding. Alex Edelman's unique perspective and Conan O'Brien's engaging style create a memorable dialogue that resonates with listeners.

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0:02Hi, my name is Alex Edelman.

0:07And I feel apprehensive about being Conan O 'Brien's friend.

0:32Hey there, welcome to Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend. I am the aforementioned Conan, Conan O 'Brien, Aries. Okay. Brookline, Massachusetts Quite a life Quite a life I've had I guess it's drawing to a close now And I'm being joined by Sona Mobsessian Sona, how are you? Can I ask a question? Go for it This has been a while Can we change the name of the podcast To Conan O 'Brien Sona Mobsessian And Matt Gourley Need a friend? You know what? I think that's a really good idea And Matt Gourley's is here as well Gemini Yeah, Gemini Libra I enjoy pasta And long walks on the beach With pasta Your question Sona no the answer is no and it's not even up to me at this point I think the great Adam Sachs who's in the room at all times our overlord our overseer he would say a terrible idea to change the branding at this point it would diffuse and he's nodding vigorously it's also false because we don't need friends because we have each other that's true I'm just saying maybe Conan O 'Brien needs a friend with Matt Gourley and Sona Mofsessian yeah no it just it dilutes the brand and it's bad for merch.

1:40And listen, what if we just lose your name and it's just the two of us? Yeah. Okay, good luck with that. I would say enjoy the poor house, but this isn't Dickensian London. I wish there were poor houses still. What? Yeah, they used to throw you into the poor house and then it's in every Dickens novel. Someone gets thrown into the poor house and you can't get out of the poor house unless you give the money back, but you can't make the money back if you're in the poorhouse. Because you've stolen something? Is that how? No, not even. Someone will just get into debt and they would come by and they would say, we're taking you to the poorhouse and they would throw you in and then you couldn't get out for the longest time.

2:17I've heard that term. I never thought about what it was. Yes, it goes back to, it's all over Dickens. There's so many things in Dickens I wish would come back. Poorhouse, pickpockets. Where are all the pickpockets, by the way? Street urchins. Street urchins. Yeah. There's so much good stuff. Old hags. Old hags wearing tattered wedding dresses. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah I just You know You know That kind of thing Just bowls of porridge And gruel Yeah may I have some Please sir May I have some more More porridge More gruel No I don't think he even says He just says May I have some more Sorry Sorry sir Are you guys doing the same person?

2:54You're both doing Oliver? My guy's Australian Oh okay Yeah I'm doing Hugh Jackman As Wolverine Okay That's yeah I'll claw you With me claws it's all fucked up what I'm doing right now it doesn't make any sense hello Deadpool and I'm doing Schwartz there again get to the chopper get to the chopper I'll be right back Uzi 9mm okay I'll be back it's like a Dickens Wolverine crossover yeah okay good yeah man that Deadpool movie I really did enjoy it I'm gonna just say that we're not getting paid to say that saw that with my son Beckett we had a blast it was really fun and it brought me back to the time I know I've mentioned this before, but I always think about it when I was in a gym and I was really proud of myself.

3:38I've told you this, right? And I was working out in a hotel gym in Atlanta and I was really like, hey, I think I'm working out really hard. And then on my peripheral vision, I saw someone without a shirt doing an insane workout where they were pulling up their whole body effortlessly. And I looked over at Hugh Jackman and he looks at me and winked and was like, you know hey mate whatever and i just thought jesus my penis went up inside my body it crawled up into my lung never come out i keep trying to lure it out with a little bit of cheese yeah um your penis eats cheese yeah i'm sorry my penises some penises are lactose intolerant mine's a real cheese eater a real cheese every time when i was dating i'd drop my pants and would say, oh, a cheese eater, eh?

4:27That's very Dickens. Yeah. Ah, a cheese eater, eh? And my penis would be holding a piece of gouda with its tiny little hand. Well, I've never more emphatically put up a rap sign. So let's go ahead. To review, a Dickensian woman would see me drop my pants and go, cheese eater, eh? Cork likes its gouda, eh? You got a real milk sipper. Right?

5:01Well, I'm so glad. This is why PBS won't underwrite our podcast. I always wanted to say supported by Foundation for the Arts. But no, they listen to my, you know, cock eating cheese bits. And then we don't get the funding that I think we deserve. Public funding. Yes. From the Angela Lansbury Foundation. The country should pay for this. I think. Oh, they're paying for it. Listen, yeah, they are paying. In their own way, people are paying. Man, I really want to keep applying for grants. We should. Let's start applying for grants. Yeah. Okay. So that the money would come, would be taken away from programs in schools.

5:40And programs like Nova. And I would get it, and then people would be outraged and they would listen to the podcast like, why is he, well, let's check it out. Maybe it's educational. You got a real gouda eating cocaroo. Brought to you by a generous grant from the W.M. Keck Foundation Oh, 50 Senate hearings Sir, are you aware? Brought to you by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation They're not together There's no transition here Is it just the Gates Foundation? Is it? Well, good cul-de-sac there, Asona Good instinct, just as I get into the intro Really good Well, time to get into the intro But are Bill and Melinda still together?

6:21My guest today doesn't give a shit about Bill and Melinda Gates. This hilarious comedian whose Emmy-nominated comedy special Just For Us is now streaming on Max. I'm excited to talk to him today.

6:35Alex Edelman, welcome.

6:40I've come in hot today. I don't know what it is, but I feel like I have scores to settle. And then you just happen to be here when I'm in this mood. I'm excited. I'm like, I'm a fellow Brooklinian. So it's like, we should explain what that is. Cause people probably think it's a weird. We both sleep on Brooklyn and sheets. I'm sorry if that's a competitor to one of your sponsors. We drop, we lose sponsors left and right. We, I will explain first of all, much to talk about. And I want to start by saying before anything else that I saw your special of your show, Just For Us. Spectacular. Absolutely amazing.

7:24I know that it is Emmy nominated and that's why I wanted to get you in here to talk. We're going to talk about this special because I have a lot of questions for you. But I think before we begin to move on to, I think, more important areas, we should discuss the fact that you and I have a lot in common, which I found out the first time you were on my show. You leaned over and you was like, I'm from Brooklyn, Massachusetts and my dad's a doctor and knows your dad. I'm from Brookline, Mass. My dad's a doctor. And we both fled that legitimate profession. My father called me the next day and he went, oh, you were on Dr.

8:00O 'Brien's son show the other day. What? And he went, yeah, Dr. O 'Brien's son's also a comedian. I went, this is a criminal misuse of the word also. I was like, yeah. And he went, you know, he's a good doctor. and i was like well his son's a good comic and he went yeah i would expect that because the dad's such a good doctor i love this struggle over what our true identities are it was truly that though he was like you know he still practices it really comes in it's a different my dad with as if it was he's part he's in a different grade at the school he was like you know it's a different department but he's got a lot of respect i'm like my dad's a cardiologist so yeah yeah my dad is a microbiologist Yeah.

8:45So I think my dad, the way I've heard it, my dad's first day kind of working at Brigham Women's Hospital in Boston was, I think, 1954. Wow. And my dad is I just saw him two days ago. I hear that was two days before they let the women in. It was just Brigham's. It was just Brigham's. Exactly. Yeah. It was it was the Peter Bent Brigham then. Then they changed it to Brigham Women's. And the whole world went to hell. But yeah, he worked there from like, I think he worked there for something like 65 years, something crazy. But it's cool because every now and then I bump into people who sort of, obviously they know my father and they respect my father and they're not that interested in talking to me.

9:34Yeah. I get the same thing where people come up to me on the street with a crazed look in the eyes and I'll be like, hi. And they're like, your father saved my life. and I'm like, oh, cool. Check out my special. Yeah. How'd you like the show? My father, by the way, if I ever referred to it growing up, I would say Brigham's and my father would go, and women's. And I'm like, what's the difference? Well, Brigham's is an ice cream parlor and Brigham's and Women's is the finest medical institution in the United States. Like he was very serious about it. But my dad's been practicing there for a long time, not nearly as long as your father, but feels great affinity for it.

10:14It's funny because all my memories are our family, there's six kids, and my dad drove this really rusting out Chevrolet Impala four-door with a squeaky steering wheel. And my childhood memories are my dad getting us in the car to run a quick errand, me and a couple of my brothers maybe. And what he would do is he'd go to the laundromat, he'd go to this place, and then he'd say, I'm just gonna, he abbreviated minute. He'd say, I'm just going to take a min and pop into the Brigham. And so he would park the car and he would go into the Brigham Women's Hospital to like check on his bacteria, see what they were up to.

10:51And he would leave us in the car and sometimes 45 minutes to an hour would go by and then he'd come back and we'd be pissed. But you couldn't complain because he was doing, you know, he was saving lives. You said it was going to take a min, but it took an er. It took an er, yeah. It took an er. That was a full er. and but that was my memory of and I was thinking you wouldn't leave a dog in a car that long these days I have this memory of my father shaving in the car on the way to work with an electric razor but with both hands in the mirror while we're going down route 9 and I was like dad road he'd be like I have my knees I got it but he's like shaving like this always so busy always I think my dad has been on call for 32 years I don't think my father has never, my father had a beeper until like, my father had a beeper.

11:44And I thought, I remember as a kid, like in the seventies, my father had a beeper because he was on call. And I thought technology will never advance any further than that box on his hip that makes a noise so he can go to a pay phone. We were growing up in synagogue. Like on Saturday, I went to an Orthodox Jewish synagogue and my father's beeper would go up in synagogue. and you could tell who was new based on who turned around and be like, what is that very electronic noise in the no electronic day timeframe? So people would turn around and my brothers would be like, he's a doctor, he's a doctor.

12:18Don't worry about it. Chill, just chill. He's saving lives. Reby, chill. Chill, Reby. Shut the fuck up. I had interesting experience because I'm obviously super Irish Catholic. I'm growing up in Brookline, Mass. And the different public schools, they had real identities and the one I was supposed to go to Heath school was very kind of Irish Catholic all the kids played hockey it was all it was kind of where I was supposed to go I don't know why I think my mother had gotten to a fight with someone at the PTA something happened and it started with my brother Luke he was sent to the Driscoll school the Driscoll school in Brookline is surrounded by four literally on four sides there are like four temples and so it was predominantly Jewish.

13:04And I was the kind of, oh, look, there's this orange haired kid named O 'Brien. Yeah. And isn't this funny? He's Catholic. So it I was suddenly I was invited to I think I went to definitely many, many, many more bar mitzvahs than any other confirmation or anything like that. And the the parents all thought it was hilarious that I was there. And they would like pinch my cheeks and go, look at this, you know, he's here. This is crazy. Look at his hair. And I just, I don't know. The whole thing was, I remember feeling very exotic in a town where there are plenty of Irish Catholic kids, but I, all my friends, all my friends were Jewish kids.

13:44It was so funny because you went to BHS. Yeah. So we're going to high school is like, it was two minutes and a whole world away from me because I was raised Orthodox. And so I remember watching the show when I was like nine, 10 years old and being like, He went to BHS? And I was so jealous of the kids who went to BHS because in my mind, not only did they not have to pray three times a day, they also let you host a talk show on national television. Like that was my conception of everyone who went to BHS. I'm like, eventually they get to either general manage the Red Sox or have their own television show.

14:17Pretty much the entire class. Yeah. It's like, wait, does everyone take a turn? Because there's like hundreds of kids in that school, you know? No, we all got, it was guaranteed if you went to Brookline High. And so that was a great lucky thing for me because I think very early on got very comfortable around Jewish kids and really kind of. Which helped with like Jeff Ross and stuff like that. Exactly. Because you knew they run show business with an iron hand. I've got to make a phone call real quick. Our producer. Yes, it did. No, but it was a nice accident for me that I went to Driscoll School, I think, and then just became sort of more involved in going to bar mitzvahs, things like that.

15:06Because, and this may sound strange to you, but it all felt so much more relaxed than Catholicism. It felt a little more, I don't know what, and you may not feel that way, but it felt more. I definitely don't. But yeah, I totally, it's so funny. Brookline does feel like, um, like sometimes people say that New Yorkers seem Jewish, even if they're not Jewish or something about the milieu of it. And I always felt sort of similarly about Brookline, which is that if you were from Brookline, you were both Jewish and a little bit sort of Boston Irish Catholic at the same time. Like you had, cause you go to, you go to synagogue and you have these thick Boston accents, you know, why about like a fervent memory of like being in synagogue and there's a part on Friday night services where you turn around and they open the door in the back of the synagogue and everyone says a brief prayer towards the back of the door and then you turn back but i just remember someone hesitated getting the door and someone in the congregation in the middle of very very like distinct hebrew prayers they went steven get the door and i was like how someone with like the voice of like a father o 'leary six syllables in door How did this guy get into the temple?

16:23I was like, wait, that's the rabbi? Yeah, it's the rabbi, Sean. Sean Hanlehan. Oh my God.

16:35I just love the idea that the rabbi is going on and on about the Bruins. He's like, all right, kid. So Hashem has this problem.

16:47but first he's got to go to Duncan. What? There was a kosher Duncan down the street and when it opened up, it was like, oh my God, the headline in the synagogue newsletter was like, man lands on the moon. Like kosher Duncan opens on Route 9. There's a kosher Duncan? There's a kosher Duncan on Route 9 and we were just blown up. By the way, everyone was excited and I was like, wait, what's not kosher about Duncan? I know. Finally, someone got the shellfish out of the donut. It's lard. Apparently it's lard. You know, I've gone to that Dunkin's. I think I know which one you're talking about. And I've enjoyed the donuts not knowing that they were kosher.

17:25The first time I was lucky enough to do the show, the TV show, I did stand up and then you were like, come over and sit on the couch, by the way, blew my mind. And I remember being like, don't cry, don't throw up, just like do the thing. And I sit down and we're sitting there talking about like little Brookline landmarks and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, the house with the yellow roof. He's like, yeah, the house with the yellow roof. And like, and afterwards I came out, I came off my friend Morgan who came with me. He was like, what were you guys talking about? Like, if I told you, you'd either be upset or think I was lying to you or just like wouldn't make sense.

17:56Like little tiny places in Brookline. There's such a neighborhood. It's such a thing. And I still get sentimental. As I said, I was just there this weekend and still driving around and stopping off and going to the old spots. It's very powerful. It's a very, but I don't know if you had this experience. It's a wonderful place to be from. But when I was 16 years old. Couldn't wait to leave. All I did was, and I actually said to people, I can't wait to get out of this dump. And it was because I was very ambitious in 16, 17, like I gotta get out of this shithole. You know, like I'm from some - Which you immediately accomplished by going to Harvard six minutes away.

18:36Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, boy, you really fled the coop. I sure did. You know what I did? I hopped on a train like a hobo. And I went six miles to Cambridge. I got to spread my wings and take the 60 bus. Seven sobs. Literally, I know how they. Do you know, by the way, Boston, that was a great place for me to grow up because I think maybe it's a specific time I grew up in. But people like my parents genuinely were just like they gave me a pair of rollerblades and let me go. And when I was like 11 years old, I would just like rollerblade around and like take the train and take the bus. And like, if I was interested in comedy, I would like sneak into the lampoon archives because those kids were always drunk guarding the door.

19:17And I would like, like, go to the county library and see like Sergeant Shriver and Doris Kroon's Goodwin speak. And like, it was that time. And I was at the Red Sox all the time because I got a job there and that was the perfect time. And the city was just medium sized enough that you could eat almost all of it. If you were like curious enough. And I worry that like, I don't know, there aren't many cities where like parents give their 11 year olds a pair of rollerblades because nobody rollerblades anymore anyway that one homophobic joke killed it and then like you just like and just be like get get out of here go find something that you're interested i don't think it's the city though i think it's the time because i was just driving down route nine two three days ago my brother neil's in the car and we pass this little shed and i said oh i used to wait for the bus there when when school was over in third grade, myself, Virginia Chapman and Isabel Zimmerman, we were this little tiny third graders would walk down to this little shed and wait for a city bus to come by, not a school bus, a regular bus and get on it and then take it down to our to the stop that dropped me off at my house and then them at their houses.

20:26And I thought my wife would never let third our kids in third grade, like when your day at third grade is up, wander down to the highway and get the bus that goes into Boston and just make sure you get off on your stop. Yeah, see if you can hitchhike if it doesn't work. Yeah. Just like try. If there's a van, just get in it. Maybe he's got candy. I hitchhiked home all the time, genuinely. Like the T would stop at like 12, 15. And if I want to stay, I'd be like, ah, just hitchhike. I'm like a 16 year old, 15 year old at like a comedy show. Right. At like a Dick Doherty's comedy vault or something like that and be like, the show's going to 1230 I'll just be like anyone here want to take me a nubile young teen home I'll make it worth your while well come on it's the way to get a ride so he was the actual predator in this situation so for the people from Brookline listening this has been a thoroughly enjoyable can we put this at the end and everything else this episode is actually just going out regionally now for Newton So what do you think of Wellesley and Sharon?

21:34Yeah, we're gonna work our way slowly out until we get through the entire United States.

21:47I think you came on the show twice to do standup comedy and obviously I thought you were terrific and you have flourished. And then you do this show just for us. It is quite spectacular one man show where you really tell this amazing story. I encourage everyone listening to watch it. It's quite brilliant. What amazed me is that the heart of the story, without, I don't think, giving too much away. Let me say what you want. Okay. Is you decide to attend a meeting that you found out about on Twitter, I think. And it's in, is it? It's in Queens. It's in Queens. And it's a group of people who are trying to preserve.

22:30Yeah, pride in white identity. White identity, yeah. And so, you know, you - They're not crazy about Jews, not to spoil too much. You guys are, you say, preserve white identity. You're being so kind about it. I know. They're white nationalists. Nazi sons of bitches. Well, I know, but listen, we have a lot of people listening right now and I don't want to offend anyone. Okay, and this is brutal. We've got to keep everybody under the tent. Oh, good. You know what Michael Jordan said? White nationalists buy sneakers too. Yeah. You know, some of our response, who knows? You know, I just got to be careful.

23:03White nationalists sleep on Brooklinen too. They wear it over their heads. They say, they, you know. I'm sure white nationalists are eating up the better help codes. If you're a white nationalist and you're listening, you're welcome to. If you want sheets to cut holes in Brooklinen. Sorry.

23:22Here's what's amazing to me. You go to this. it's a true story of you in 2018 i think going to this meeting you don't really announce your full identity and you're accepted into the group although one guy has his eye on you but you act this whole thing out and there's lots of terrific wonderful asides and cul-de-sacs it's not all just about this this one night but to me the the feat which really blew my mind is that the show is very funny and it is not angry. You know what I mean? There's something about it, which is you go and you experience these people and you bring them to life. I disagree with their beliefs violently, but you give them their humanity and you're not ranting and raving about them you're experiencing them as human beings and it's it's very funny and delightful and not toxic empathetic yeah so what i did when i started i wrote i started writing the show and i had help um my director and lovely man named adam brace we were talking once my best friend for a long time adam and uh and adam would always reference what the worst version of the joke would be And so one day I was bored on a train to like a tour stop for this show early on, like literally February of 2020, like right before the pandemic.

24:49And I started writing the worst version of the show I was already doing. And I was like, what would be the worst and dumbest version of these jokes? One that was like desirous of victimhood and really angry and really tacky and really earnest or really cynical. And I wrote this like shitty version of the show, like the sort of dark side crap version of it. and every so often when the show would change because the show would change every day I would compare against the shit version sorry to curse no no no we lost our deal with Nickelodeon I know you know who doesn't like cursing is the white nationalist yeah yeah well fuck you guys hey phone lines lighting up said Conan not understanding podcast wait don't you have a podcast where you talk to the fans on the phone like isn't that that's another one okay fine yeah okay but so I So I would compare this thing.

25:41But yeah, I wanted a show that wasn't going to be about like, do you know Pauline Kael is? Yes. Pauline Kael, for anyone listening. One of the great film critics of all time. Yeah. I was reading a book of her reviews. And there was like little snippets of things she had only done a paragraph on. And she gave a review to this movie about the Nuremberg trials called... Judgment at Nuremberg? Yes, Judgment at Nuremberg. And she says, I hate this movie because it takes a brave stance against being a Nazi. Yeah. And I wanted to make sure that I never did a show about neo-Nazis that took a brave stance against being a neo-Nazi.

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26:14Because I assume that most people watching my show are aware that it's not amazing to be a neo-Nazi. So instead of being like, what does a version of this look like where instead of being like an early, like the Daily Show in that, like when I was in high school and college to this tremendous job of being sort of like gotcha comedy with like exposing the hypocrisy of, you know, like powerful figures. Yeah, exactly. And folks and even regular people who were supporting the folks sycophantically. And I was watching some of those clips and I was in while they really lost their zing because we know it now.

26:49Like we know there's no surprise me like, oh, a Trump supporter has double standards on morality. Hell's shock. You know, like it's really. And so I wanted to ask more interesting questions with that, like, you know, that unique opportunity. and also want to reckon with the difficult truths there, which is that I am in some ways like some of those people or share a point of view on one or two of the things that they're saying or think that, and so I thought that would be a more interesting show and a more humane show, especially given the rancorous presence that we live in. I think it's also, that kind of comedy to me is more durable.

27:25That's, I always think, is the prize to be shooting for. so I thought this was really nicely done there was a bunch of things that I noticed which is your physicality on stage you have a lot of energy and you're uh running around and you have sort of a comedic way of moving around the stage that uh was really making me laugh do you know what I mean do you know what I'm talking about it's kind of this I mean I don't even know what uh it's called ADHD Conan is that it but uh but yeah you know there it is yeah but you know the funny thing is that i realized um i some of that's a bad hat some of that's intentional and some of that's a bad habit and i don't know any other way to to bring this up but adam brace who is who was who and i know it's coming because he he he helped you bring this to life yeah he's my director and and and uh and like i said my closest pal we worked together on three solo shows and he passed away right before we started on broadway and so you know um and so that sucked yeah and he passed away very suddenly it was a shock yeah it was very surprising and um i think actually very inconsiderate of him given he had work to do but uh that's okay really not commensurate with his theatrical responsibilities but uh but brace he told me when it was okay to move and when it was okay not to move like there are moments in the show that are very that are very anchored and still and then there are moments where you run around and it's good because it puts a contrast on the moments where you're still because they're like oh wow that guy sure moves a lot and they're like oh wait he's really standing still for this i guess i guess this part's important but like i've always had help from other people and i've always like wanted also that's the other thing the show was socialized with like a million comedians like every comedian who came i would i would interrogate them for notes like seinfeld came and i was like give me a note all of these was seinfeld's note bass notes in between scenes.

29:19Yeah, yeah, yeah. A-dum, a-dum, a-dum, a-dum, a-dum. Because I found that to be off-putting. Yeah. Yeah, the Michael Richards cameo doesn't really fit, but... We did have to cut around it. And I realized they were all anti-Semites. Yeah. A-boing, ba-doing, doing, doing. They're all anti-Semites. Yeah.

29:44Although, I remember when Seinfeld came, I remember thinking, how did anyone ever kill Abe Lincoln? Because the whole time the crowd wasn't watching me, they're watching Seinfeld. And I was like, wasn't there like most of the people at the play were like, is Lincoln enjoying the show? Yeah. What does Lincoln think of our American cousin? Oh no, but look out.

30:08The weird thing is most of them would have known John Wilkes Booth. So they would have just been like, I think about that all the time. They would have literally thought like, oh, there's the president. and, you know, there's George Clooney behind him. Hey, what did George Clooney just do? That's genuinely, I think about it constantly, but the thing is, it's like, it's his brother. It was like, his brother was Edwin Booth. Yeah, he was a huge star. And there's a theater on Broadway still named after Edwin Booth, which is like, how talented does that guy have to be? It's like, you know, welcome to the Mark Bin Laden theater.

30:41Yeah, yeah, yeah. And afterwards we'll all hit Oswald's for a steak.

30:57Damn, I hate what his brother did, but this is fantastic. And so funny you say that about physicality because like other people, Morgan, the person who came with me to Conan said, are you worried that if you move around on stage, cone and we'll see that you're just doing him that's a different friendship i have with morgan i was like stood right there because like i also think you are your influences you're like i'm a little bit like brian reagan i'm a little bit like not to give a little bit like you a little bit like gary gullman who's another great comic like i i have stolen from the diffuse it's that but the thing is it's like i i just think it's uh you know i grew up watching um bob newhart and johnny carson and both of them were so good at this kind of deadpan comedy and they got it directly from um jack benny and they were like oh no it was jack what we're doing is jack benny jack benny was doing someone that he saw when you know his when he was a kid probably on the vaudeville circuit he saw someone else do that and that person saw someone do it in the civil war yeah so we're all riffing off of each other and we even think we're doing that person but we're not because i keep saying it's her failure to be our idols that makes us come up with our own thing you know tom lerner yeah it's like tom lerner is 90 please if you're listening to this don't drop in on tom lerner but he lives in boston and like a couple of months ago i was in boston i guess a year ago now i was in boston and i drove by his house and i was like you know what i'll knock on tom lerner's door and he's do you know who he is?

32:31no but it's such a do you know him? no okay and he's in his 90s did you have a weapon? come with me Tom he was like it's the 1920s and you're insane and we're allowed to use butterfly nets to take people away he was Kennedy's favorite comedian it's like I knocked on his door he didn't answer and I came back a couple days later that's when you gotta really lean into it with your shoulder give it a kick if the door won't go Hey, listen, if Tom Lehrer's door won't give right away, just really give it a kick. Got him in a cage in the back. I'm 92. Next to the last mother's brother. You know, just like, Tom, you will write for me.

33:15But yeah, I mean, like, eventually he was at home and he's a curmudgeon, but he's nice in his way. And we sat and talked. And next time I was in town, it was like, email if you feel like coming by. And, uh... He's saying prior notice. Yeah, prior notice is key. He thought it was the mailman, which is why he opened the door. It is really... Of course, the mailman outfit you were wearing. Yeah. Helped with that illusion. Special door. I know how to get in. Package for you, Lara. It's chloroform. You need to smell it to make sure it's yours. Go to sleep, Tom Lara. Ugh, sleep. I mean, what's more irritating than just like some millennial being like, hi, I've got some questions about your songs about Vernon Von Braun.

34:03But like, but it was really, but he, but like, also comedy is such a young art form. Like, and it's so amazing when you think about it. Yeah. Carol Burnett knew Lucille Ball. Lucille Ball knew Mark Twain. Like, it's fucking crazy. They all knew each other. It's like if all of painting's history was in, it was in a hundred years. It's like if you showed up at the studio and someone's like, Van Gogh wants to try some new pieces. Is that okay? van gogh's gonna try some new pieces and you're like wait do you know picasso like no no but i worked a couple months ago with this guy he knows picasso he does he did he did he used to paint my picasso back in the back in the 70s of the improv and now like it's crazy it's really cool they're all still around or they're in the case of of like bob newhart who i never met but always revered like they just passed away we get to breathe the same yeah bob was uh bob was everything you would want him to be times 10 every like literally just uh you'd want someone that brilliant and that thoughtful and disciplined about comedy to be an amazing person.

35:02And he was that a thousand times over. It's so cool to still. I wonder what the right balance of fan and professional is, but now I try not to pathologize it anymore. I'm not asking for autographs and stuff like that, but I'd be lying if I said it's like, I met Elaine May. Elaine May is still, Elaine May, didn't just perform for Candy. She and Mike Nichols went on before Marilyn Monroe at his birthday party. Yeah, where she sang Happy Birthday, Mr. President. Yeah. They were on before that in Madison Square Garden. Yes. By the way, I didn't realize that was at Madison Square. I thought that was like in private and like got out as a rumor.

35:37I didn't realize it was on national TV. No, she sang that in front of JFK and JFK's wife and JFK the entire time was like, no, dude, please. She's, she's, she's right. She's sitting right. Tone it down. She's right. Tone it down. Maybe a little less with the cleavage. We could tone it down. She was actually not there. That ruins the joke. Is that true? Yeah, she wasn't there. What? I was always convinced that that was the thing. No, no, she was not there. Was it a special for NBC, though? Wasn't it a special? I don't know that if it was a special. I mean, I've seen the footage a million times, but it was actually a tour.

36:14A million times? It's Marilyn Monroe in a tight dress going, Happy birthday. Starting when I was 13 and ending when I was 17. I saw it a million times. No, not ending when I was 17. By the way, can you imagine the organizers? I orgasmed it out this morning. Well, I'm sorry. It does seem very on brand for you though. It does, you would, you would. That is my porn. Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, time to watch Marilyn again, sing happy birthday to the president. Poster of Hedy Lamarr behind me.

36:48I have a question, which is, you've done this show, this was years in the making, huge stage success. Then you bring it to television and it's nominated for an Emmy. And then there's got to be this feeling of, well, I'm saying goodbye to this now because I'm moving on. It's such a titanic piece of work. Do you have an idea of what the next thing is? Do you know what it is? I mean, I'm doing it and it's touring. It's not got a title yet you know the funny thing is that i sort of decided that it was going to end because 11 months after adam died that's when i that because that's all you sit shiva in judaism and also it was the weirdest thing because it's the best thing that's ever happened to me but it was braided with the saddest thing that's ever happened to me yep because like i can't stress how close i was with this guy he was the my only significant collaborator for a decade and uh and he understood me it was like um very personal relationship and so the funny thing is like i just couldn't do it anymore but now i'm in this weird position of i'm doing my i'm doing this new show i'm doing an hour and a half new hour and a half of stand-up and i feel his loss even more keenly because this is the part of the creative process where he'd be involved every single day listening to sets giving notes offering provocations.

38:09And so I don't really have that anymore. So the short answer to your question is, I'm doing the new show. So it's got to do with Israel and Palestine. Very easy topic. And I also like hard comedy. You've sold out. Now you're just going for big laughs. Yeah, absolutely. I told my agent, he's like, are you really going to do that Israel-Palestine thing? Keep threatening. He used the phrase threatening. He's like, keep threatening to do the show. Are you going to do it? I was like, oh yeah, I'm doing it. He's like, great. Do you want to call it like career suicide? He's like, that's a really good title.

38:38This could be at the risk of sounding whatever, not superficial, but Pollyanna. There's one way to look at it, which is that Adam Brace is going to be with you. I think he was such a part of your collaboration. It sounds to me like he's going to be part of everything you do in the way that all these other people are as well. But I don't know if that's true. Like, I hope that's true. And I think about that all the time. because like he's not ai like the thing the thing that made him special to me beyond the fact that he was deep but you know we were in sync in in our in our sort of uh performance morals and um had lots of different but beyond the thing the particulars that made us such good friends and collaborators he surprised me constantly and so and so anything that um that comes now from adam even if i have it will be entirely within the realm of my own understanding but also you're you know it is comforting i think that that i but i also wish i'd listened more i wish i'd paid close i never thought it was running out of time he was 42 it's like if two people made an album together and then the album went one of them died and the album went bananas and the person who's left over kept kept having to do it and it was changing their life completely like what a weird crazed experience to have and um someone called me like three days after he died and was like are you looking for a new director no it's like oh it's like buddy and he was like i'd love to throw my hat in the ring and it was so it was such a nice it was such a nice thing to feel i said you're so wrong for it i said it'd be like hiring a pig to fly an airplane like you can't do it.

40:23Like, there's no way. This was Seinfeld. Yeah. Yeah, Jerry was like, we gotta put the bass in.

40:36Newman. Here I wanted to ask you, yeah, Newman shows up halfway through. Newman shows up as one of the white supremacists. Newman. Yeah. I did want to ask you about, you say it in the special, and I believe you actually do it which is you say in the special i'm available to talk to everybody in the lobby after the show yeah and no one does that and the reason i brought it up why it struck me is that it seemed like an impulse i would have which is i would want to talk to everybody afterwards i don't know where my thing comes from where does yours come from i think it comes from you no i'm serious i think it comes from the comics that i love it felt like there was a person-to-person an aspect to it the comics that the comedy voices that i um there was a sort of mystique in their utter accessibility as if sort of getting to where their consciousness lay was a collective responsibility where like everyone's job is to figure out what's wrong with me and so like i i always like that and also by the way i this show is truly something i believe like i really believe that we need to have less rancorous conversations.

41:50I do think that we live in this really toxic time where people with profound and fundamental differences have like, aren't speaking to each other. Like there are members of my family who will not talk to me over Israel and Palestine. Like they just won't. Like it's a really, and I think that like, there is something to being able to have a conversation with anyone, no matter what they believe. And like, I thought that, well, if I believe that, then I should talk to anyone in the crowd who, when I started doing the show, it was actually very charged. Like people were fascinated with the, with one of the questions at the center of the show, which is whether or not Jews are white.

42:29People have very strong opinions about it. Jews have strong opinions about it. Non-Jews have strong opinions about it. White people have strong opinions about it. People of color have strong opinions about it. And for a while, people wanted to talk to me about it afterwards or confront me until, by the way, figured out things in the show where i totally explained myself and that and those questions died down somewhat but like i made myself available to like you know stand by or argue with you know anything that like and also it was it was informing things in the show which is so crazy which is such a gift that you don't get in like narrative usually it's like if you're watching titanic and like at some point like leonardo di caprio looks into the camera and it's like people get really sad here where we hit the iceberg you know when we hit the iceberg people are like oh my god or he looks and he's like look i know the door is big enough yeah but i know i know you think the door is big enough but this is more powerful yeah this is more powerful yeah but so like getting that live feedback is really good what are you laughing at specifically the door is big I think part of him knew this relationship, we hit a high.

43:38It's not, we're gonna move into a walk up in New York. And she's gonna - He wanted to die. I just think he knew, get out on a high note. That's a high take. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. We just did it in an antique car. Rose, Rose, where are my shoes Rose? Yeah. Where are my shoes? I gotta go to the office. You're right, but you'll last them. Oh, I should have stayed the same. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I could have lived a life of luxury. Yeah. You could have held onto the necklace too.

44:15His drawings aren't selling. You want to go, hey, there's an empty car. We could go in the back and we could, nah, nah. I don't want to. She made him give up the art to go into insurance.

44:30I could have been Picasso. Picasso, my ass. We live in New Rochelle. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. But it was an amazing thing. And also, you know, I had never done anything where people were coming up to me afterwards. And after a while, it got a little intense where people were like, they really want to talk about this thing that I couldn't find people to talk about with. Like, talk about identity and the vicissitudes of whiteness and what is what is identity look like if you take victimhood completely out of the equation and so like people would have really good conversations with me and they would factor into the show and by the way people said to me they were upset about something I always found negative feedback really helpful too because I'm like well I'm not quite connecting something there I need to explain it a little bit and Adam and I would have these big discussions huge discussions about what goes into the show what doesn't go on the show and like it was a really um i i thought the although the q a sometimes i would do q a's if people asked and they were insane like people would especially after october 7th yeah yeah we were on tour when october 7th happened and my next shows were in san francisco like october 25th and people were just crazy on the internet after that and so like someone was like i'm gonna uh someone sent me an instagram DM or I left a comment that was like, I'm going to come to San Francisco on October 26th and behead you in front of your Zionist buddies.

45:54And I was like, I was like, well, we have shows on the 25th and the 27th. And so like, I'm not going to show up just for the beheading, you know, like it was like a teenager in Tunisia, like fucking not going to get his freaking fire miles together and come and do it. Yeah, sure. But it was just, and by the way, that's not a real threat, but like the, I'm just saying the volume was so high. Yes. And then it was a little bit cathartic to do that show. It was a little bit cathartic to do a show about the requirement for, you know, the need for empathy in like a, although it didn't make me shut down comments on that specific post.

46:31But the need for empathy in that time. I'm doing stand-up now, but I don't know if it's a solo show yet because I don't know if there's like a thing that I feel this like desperate need to say that is both timely and timeless. Like I've been doing this over five years. Everyone's always like, what a timely show. I'm like, oh, I guess, you know, I guess like how we speak to each other is something that we're always going to be concerned with. And like it really, and sorry, the point of like, I don't know, I feel like it would be nice to figure out another way to talk about how we speak to each other and how we like listen to each other without being like very po-faced and like idealistic in a way that's not pragmatic.

47:09So like, it's a really, um, also, uh, as we think we use this for before this term self-righteous that I think that's the part is when, is when in our anger, especially, and I see it a lot in comedy, people are like, I inhabit the right, I don't mean politically right. I inhabit the true vision. I see it. And, uh, if you don't then damn you. And I think now that's not, that's not what we're here to do. It also is boring. Like, I think we're there. Yeah. like politically i think we're there where no one um we're like things that are brave and things that are right might not be the same thing which is interesting right like i have this joke that i've been working on about uh and the joke's nowhere near ready and but it's about sort of how like the only brave people left in new york city are republicans because so easy to be liberal we're correct yeah so like it takes no like balls to say like you know all the stuff that a normal person would say it takes balls is to look at like look at all the all the you know all the easy stuff to believe and be like no i hate homeless people let him die and you're like why taxes you know like it's a very right it's a really interesting um i know but i think that's a jewish upbringing by the way it's like a love of great areas a love of you know a love of nuance past the point where it's useful and dialogue and yeah dialogue you talk about this too arguing arguing yeah my bench calls it productive overlapping like i brought a girlfriend home once and she was like oh my god are you guys gonna be okay after that fight i was like what that was dinner and she was like but wait do you are you guys still on are you got do you need to like apologize i was like no i was like that's how we figure out how we feel like we scream at each other and someone make a good point we're like good point you know like it's a really well that's where you and i part because in my house no one ever openly disagreed with someone else you swallow it and you turn it into a cancer inside your body yeah yeah that's Irish Catholicism right there and then you eat a lot of ham and the ham neutralizes the cancer that's the yeah that's the icing stuff so that's what we did I think we got our we got to call this one because we've been oh my god I'm so sorry we've been talking about that's what you're here for it's called a podcast this is great no I yeah you're you're being an insane person this has been a fantastic conversation and I've said it before but Just For Us is really special, and it's on - Max.

49:34It's on Max, which I should - You're familiar with Max. Oh, I'm familiar with Max. Just For Us is really a must-see, and it's on Max, and best of luck at the Emmys. And this is all the gravy part, like the Emmys, those award shows, they work out, they don't work out, but you did the work, and it's really brilliant. and then and then the next you know i i 1000 confident you'll find the next thing and you'll figure that out because uh good lord you have the goods and it's really been a pleasure getting to know you a little better can i say one thing which is that the first time i got to do stand-up on television was your show and it was it still is like one of the best moments of my in you know entire life and it was such a it was such a confidence boost in a time when i really needed it and you were so nice about it it was um and this this is really uh this was really even though i'm apprehensive about being your friend i really do this is really cool for me and that was uh that was i've got i've got a cue card framed i like it it just it meant the world to me i'd like that back no no we don't give those away no it's mine guys thanks so much for having me hey uh Alex, a real pleasure and best of luck to you.

51:01Hey, we haven't done Review the Reviewers in quite some time. This is where I comb through the Apple Podcast reviews and we comment on the comments that they've made about this show. Yeah, it's payback time. Right. Is that what you're saying? And by the way, you have to rate five stars for us to even consider these things. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think that's a very good way to keep me in my bubble so that I think it's only five stars. It is. It's only five stars. As far as you know, it's only five stars. Out of 100. Okay. This one, I just feel like we need to discuss. It's submitted by...

51:41BMK-L-H-K-D-N-L-D-G. I think a cat walked across the keyboard. The subject is yippee. And the body of the comment is simply this. Yo, get moist on. Yeah. Fuck to us. What does it mean? That was my initial reaction. They're saying like this is something to get moist to. This is background music for fucking. Is that? The thing. We do fucking stuff. What is happening with you? I feel like someone just hit you with nine Novocaine blow darts.

52:19You're saying that... Get moist on. Moist is sexual. I think that we are a prophylactic. I think that the birth rate drops when my voice is heard. I don't know. I go back and forth. I think it goes up when my voice is heard. You think so, huh? Yeah. People are out there. They're fucking. Fucking to your voice. Yeah. They're cutting you two out. So what happens is they start going at it and then I cut in and go, well, another thing. And they go, and they stop immediately. It's constantly getting erect and getting flaccid during the conversation. Well, you do that fast enough. That's pleasurable for certain people.

52:57The way you acted it out with your finger acts like the penis goes out and then retracts. Yeah, you also, what's with the red rum? Bling, bling, bling, bling. Shining boy. This is, you know, the penis. It comes out and then it goes back inside. Another day of winter. Okay. I'm done. Well, okay, so that was the comment. That's all. That's all we got from that. What a horrible country we live in. I can give you another one if you like. Yeah, give me another one because that person's perverted. That comment is not a comment to get moist on. No. Okay. This is from KER San Fran. The subject is peeing is in my future.

53:32Oh, boy. Thanks, Conan and team for being too funny. So much so that sometimes I'm laughing so hard I pee a little. This is your fault. It was never something that happened before and only is an issue when listening to your pod. I hope it happens to you all someday soon. Great show, by the way. That's really nice. First of all, I don't think it's our fault. This person may have a problem with their urethra. And it's important that whoever you are, you get checked out because our show, I think, is funny, but it's not pee-your-pants funny. So I want to say right now, if you've peed your pants while listening to this podcast, you need to see a urologist immediately.

54:09What if you've peed your pants while recording this podcast? Well, that is something maybe you and I should talk about a little more. I just think that's... Do you think he's a woman or she's a girl? Because if she's a woman, then maybe it's her pelvic floor. Oh, a weak pelvic floor. Can a man have a weak pelvic floor? I don't know enough about men's stuff. Well, all the better, then hold forth. Keep talking. I love it when most of the media is people talking who have no idea what they're talking about. All I know is from a woman's, I don't know what you, do you know? I don't, I don't. I know about the pelvic floor when it comes to a woman's stuff.

54:46I think for a man, it's the prostate or the bladder, and it's nothing to do with floors or ceilings. But you know, when people say this was pee your pants funny, I've laughed very hard in my life never come close to that so I always thought it was just a phrase but not something anyone could actually do I think it can be done it can happen definitely almost peed and sometimes even peed a little when I laughed and that would be around me because I'm the funniest person you know no she's marking her territory as like stay away I don't think I've ever even come close to peeing with you around so you've laughed really hard hard enough to pee but not around me yeah probably oh come on i'm i'm like in the history books of funny and you're talking what made you laugh so you probably watch i actually think i remember a time when i've peed and i've i've obviously i was a little high and then my it was years and years ago this was before i even had kids we were my friend uh christina and i were watching something and we did a deep we were playing with the dvd player and i pressed eject and then the dvd player thing ejected and then i walked up and the whole time I was like, why is there even an eject button on the remote?

55:55And we laugh so hard. I peed my pants. Wait a minute. That's what made you laugh so hard? Oh my God. So she's saying you're not as funny as that. So I've never risen to that level. I've never risen to why isn't there an eject button on the remote? Why is there an eject button? You have to get up and go to the machine anyway. What's the point of the eject button? But that's not funny, that's more just a question of like, huh, I wonder. I think you're confusing humor with, how does the moon affect tides? I'm just curious. Oh no, I peed myself. Maybe it was the tide. Yeah. But why is there an eject button?

56:38It's just, you have to go to the machine. It's like, what's the point? Please don't ask one more kind of interesting question because I might shit myself.

56:48How can, do you think science will ever be able to maybe register when a tectonic plate shift is gonna happen? Oh no! I just filled my jeans. That wasn't comedy. Those are questions. No, you don't have to be there. You know what I would love? If she was one of Socrates' students. Socrates used to just ask questions. You know, what is it? Is the soul given to us at birth or is it, Socrates, I gotta leave. Why is that, Theodolus? I just filled my toga. Stop asking questions. You know what? That's insane. What a great garment to pee in, though. A toga? You can't fill a toga. No, it's out there. It's like everywhere's a toilet.

57:37You wring it out and then you just shift it around a little bit. Come on. You do. So that the wet spot moves up the back. That's what I'd do. I'm not saying anything that's... Listen, what I just said is probably what a lot of Romans and Greeks were thinking. Oh, were they... And probably doing. I think they were changing. Just had a little accident. Ring, ring. Slide, slide. Ew. Hey, your shoulder looks moist. Yeah. Couldn't have been pee. What are we talking about? I don't know. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Don't enable this. Why are we talking about this? I know. It's beneath us. No, it's not.

58:14Although if you move the toga, it won't be beneath you. Oh, boo! Yay! Oh, what's that say? Oh, it says rap. Sometimes I rap for time, sometimes I rap for content. I can't believe that German Oompa Pop Band just came in and played to celebrate my great quip about urine-soaked toga shifting. Okay, let's get into it. No, this is a segment where it just ended. oh there is no getting into it we're ending the episode you know someone recently asked me they say I really love the podcast they said I really love the podcast and they're telling me how much they like it and they said one question are you really that confused all the time stop I'm gonna pee well god bless you all there that's the ending we were all waiting for a peace out Tupac good good good Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend with Conan O 'Brien, Sonam Avsessian and Matt Gourley Produced by me, Matt Gourley Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross and Nick Liao Theme song by The White Stripes Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino Take it away, Jimmy

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Comedian Alex Edelman feels apprehensive about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.

 

Alex sits down with Conan to chat about local stories from their shared hometown of Brookline, MA, performing his one-man show Just For Us in the wake of the passing of longtime friend, collaborator, and director Adam Brace, and focusing in on the need for empathy in comedy. Plus, Sona reveals the absolute funniest thing she ever heard when Conan and his team Review the Reviewers.

 

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