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Podcast Episode Notes: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Beastie Boys
Episode Overview Title: Beastie Boys Hosts: Conan O’Brien, Sona Movsesian, Matt Gorley Guests: Michael “Mike D” Diamond and Adam “Ad-Rock” Horovitz of the Beastie Boys Description: The episode features a candid discussion with the iconic hip-hop group, the Beastie Boys, focusing on their early influences, the creative process behind their music, their friendship, and memories of their late band member Adam Yauch, as they approach the 30th anniversary of their album *Ill Communication*.
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Key Themes and Discussions
- Friendship Dynamics
- Conan expresses the ongoing theme of seeking real friendship beyond the superficial connections formed through celebrity interactions.
- Mike D and Ad-Rock share their thoughts on friendship with Conan, highlighting their camaraderie and mutual respect.
- Pop Culture Influences
- The Beastie Boys discuss the neighborhood and cultural influences that shaped their early work.
- They emphasize the importance of humor in their music and videos, reflecting a distinct New York vibe.
- Creative Process
- They detail their songwriting process, which often involves making each other laugh and creating jokes that resonate with their friendship.
- The conversation touches upon the nostalgia of their early days, where writing was a fun, collaborative process using notebooks and loose papers.
- Tribute to Adam Yauch
- The conversation includes fond memories of Adam Yauch, recognizing his visionary contributions to the group and the music industry.
- They reflect on the emotional impact of his passing and how it has affected their music and friendship.
- Cultural Commentary
- Conan and the Beastie Boys discuss the evolution of music consumption and the nostalgia for a time when music was more communal and varied.
- The group notes the importance of being in the moment and the serendipity of their rise to fame.
- Career Reflections
- They reflect on their careers, acknowledging the absurdity and luck involved in their success.
- The conversation meanders through humorous anecdotes, touching on their experiences on tour and the music industry.
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Key Takeaways
- Humor is Central to Their Identity: The integration of humor into their music is a defining characteristic for the Beastie Boys, setting them apart from many contemporaries.
- Friendship as a Foundation: Their strong friendship underpins their creative endeavors, making their collaborative work feel authentic and enjoyable.
- Cultural Influence and Nostalgia: They acknowledge how their upbringing in New York City and the cultural landscape of the time influenced their music, showcasing a blend of various genres and styles.
- Legacy of Adam Yauch: Yauch’s influence is felt throughout the conversation, demonstrating the lasting impact he had not only on his bandmates but on music as a whole.
- The Absurdity of Fame: Both Conan and the Beastie Boys reflect on the unpredictable nature of their careers, often attributing their success to a combination of hard work and luck.
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Memorable Quotes
- Mike D: "When you’re with your friends, you just have fun."
- Ad-Rock: "We always prioritized being friends."
- Conan: "The music is always a soundtrack to the time in your life."
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Conclusion In this episode of *Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend*, the Beastie Boys offer a heartfelt and humorous look back at their journey, sharing insights into their artistic process and the deep bonds of friendship that have sustained them through the years. The conversation serves as both a tribute to their late bandmate and a celebration of the lasting legacy of their music.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02What's up? This is Mike Diamond, Mike D, and I feel optimistically uncertain about being Conan O' O 'Brien's friend.
0:15I'm Adam Horowitz AKA Ad Rock of the Beastie Boys and I feel I don't know I feel like I would be I'd be kind of bullshitting if I said I mean we've met before but I certainly would like to be but I'm not yet friends with Conan O 'Brien You're saying you're okay with the idea of us being friends I mean yeah I have enough friends
1:00Hey there. Welcome to Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend. Joined by my fellow attorney, Sonam Obsessian. Hello. Hello. Wow That's how an attorney sounds That was my attorney voice Very good Hello yes Okay Objection Just cost me No That's a judge Sustained Okay no Overruled sir Alright You got it No one knows the law like you Sona Of course Matt Gorley Hello ladies and gentlemen of the jury Okay Alright Uh oh I'm jicked I'm jicked I'm a caricature Now, I don't know much about such city things, but I know an honest man when I see one. Well, it's clear, Sonia, you don't know what a lawyer is. I don't.
1:44Yeah, and you, your only exposure is through cartoons, I guess. That's most things. Yeah, maybe one children's production of 12 Angry Men. But who am I to talk? I've lived off of caricatures for many years. Do you think you'd be a good lawyer? Do I? Yeah. This is a true story. I had an uncle who always wanted me to be a lawyer because he was a lawyer and he was always saying you'd be a great lawyer and you should do mom's a lawyer and my mom's a lawyer and so he was saying you should be a lawyer all the time and he would push me and then I graduate college I start becoming a comedy writer I'm actually starting to have success at it and he would still say you should be a lawyer and I would think huh I'm actually this is doing okay then I'm working on Saturday Night Live.
2:26Then I'm getting on camera a little bit. And he's still saying you should be a lawyer. And then I'm on The Simpsons and I'd see him and he'd still bring it up. Then I get the late night show. And I swear to God, he called the head because because he had they had gone to the same college as the head of NBC. So he suddenly didn't know him. And they were years apart. But he suddenly got his number and he called him and he said, what is all this about Conan doing this late night show. That guy should be a lawyer. Oh my God. No, he didn't. He did. He did. And so I get a call from Bob Wright, who's like, you know, runs NBC for General Electric.
3:04And he was laughing. He was like, this guy just got on the phone and yelled at me and said, Conan should be a lawyer. And I'm like, yeah, I know. You should have told him he should have been a comedian. Yeah. You should have a late night show. But but his argument was, you know, if you're a lawyer, you get to be your own director and your own actor and your own script. And I was like, no, no, no. Trust me, very few people have played night shows. Did he ever come around? I don't think so. I think it was always a mystery to him. And to be fair, you know, I just came from people that knew nothing about show business and didn't care about show business.
3:38So I think it was it was just felt like, what the hell is he doing? Wow. What is this nonsense? Knock it off. Go to B.C. Law and be a lawyer. and you know I'm sure there were some people out there that would say that would have been a better use of my time but yeah that was interesting did you ever want to be a lawyer? no I always thought I I'm sorry I would have done a really great job of being a lawyer no you couldn't do that why do you think you could be a lawyer and I couldn't be I didn't say I could be a lawyer I said that someone else wanted me to be a lawyer you should not be a lawyer I could be a lawyer.
4:18You wouldn't show up, but your client would be sitting there. How fiercely have I fought traffic tickets? Oh, sure. That's just a small, small glimpse. I'll give her that. She's amazing. And she used to miss whole days at work because she was in traffic court. And she would admit up front, oh yeah, no, I was doing 95 miles an hour in a children's parking lot in an elementary school. And they caught me. Children's parking lot. You know, like a children's housewife. And whatever. And then and then you'd be you'd go there and you'd say all this bullshit to the judge and you'd get off. I would win.
4:54Yes. That's what we need. We need the W's and I would bring the W's. The wins. Yeah, the wins. I'd be one of those billboard lawyers and everybody would. Like Sweet James. Yeah. OK. Like Jacob and Rami. But here's the problem. I think you're very motivated when you've someone's done you wrong. The man has given you a ticket. Then that gets your Armenian blood boiling. Okay. True. Because you are Armenian. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Let's not take that too far. Me, Armenian. Don't label me. But it does. I've seen you when you see red, you go into this special mode where you have superpowers. I'm talking about you represent someone else.
5:35Yeah. And you're supposed to be there at eight o 'clock in the morning and have done all the preparation. but somebody took some gummies and somebody kept the judge waiting. I disagree. And someone, when the judge said, Ms. Movsesi, and you're like, get off my ass, judge, and shove that gavel where the sun don't shine. How's your Armenian blood doing now? It's really boiling right now. I think I would crush it out. You haven't seen me on jury duty. Do you know how good I am at jury duty? Wait, that's a totally different thing. Shut up, Sam. I object. You're out of order. I object. You're out of order.
6:09Attemptive court. Ms. Movsesian, stop telling people to shut up in the courtroom. I had notes. I had mental notes for the people who were the two lawyers. I was like, I could do what they're doing. Are you kidding? No, but then you'd have to go do it. And all I'm saying is that you're a free spirit. And once there's a task given to you, there's part of you that rebels. And that's why you work with me. I'm just trying to think right now. If I was in serious legal trouble, which of you two assholes I'd want to represent me? Well, I'm taking his fame out of it. It's disappointing to me. Oh, first of all, no, don't take my fame out of it.
6:42I wanna be able to stand up and go, ladies and gentlemen, I'll be representing the defense. Of course you all know me from my 30 years experience. You should be a lawyer! I thought you said you're not famous in this scenario. No, I said I insist on being famous. Oh, no, no, no, you gotta do not famous. Before we examine the evidence, let's look at my 10th anniversary special. Jury, yay, this stuff holds up, yay! Hey, the judge, I find you guilty of being hilarious.
7:14Thank you. Thank you. All right. I will fight for you. Yes. Let's move it on. Let's move on to the show. My guests today are the founding members of the Grammy Award winning rap hip hop group Beastie Boys. They recently released a 30th anniversary edition of their classic album, Ill Communication. I'm absolutely thrilled that they are here today.
7:39Adam Adrock, or if it's Michael, Mike D. Diamond. Welcome.
7:47Yeah, yeah. So you're okay with the idea of us being friends? Is that bad? It's kind of like I'm trying to sell you a Kia. I have a Kia. A used Kia that's not in great shape. I have a used Kia that's not in great shape. You have a, okay, so. Yeah. But that would mean you wouldn't want another one. No. See, that's the problem. I'm trying to go a little higher. How did I know you had a Kia? I just knew it. I just, like, dirty Kia. When you say dirty, is there just a lot of crud inside the car? It's so gross. Can I interject here? Sure, Mike. Please. And you don't even have to ask. It's disgusting.
8:22It's, like, literally disgusting. Like, old, you know, caked up, like, old cereal and stuff inside. It's gross. I don't eat cereal in my car. I'm not an animal. What is all that food crap in there? It's disgusting. I don't like go to my car with a bowl of cereal. Guys, I was just back in Boston and my older brother, Neil, I went for a ride in his car. It's the dirtiest car I've seen. It had just crud caked on the inside. And at one point, there's a little panel that if you push, it opens up. It's not the glove compartment, but it's just for, I don't know, just some Tic Tacs, whatever you might want.
8:54I pushed on it, opened up maybe 19 packets of ketchup from a fast food restaurant. And I said, what the fuck? And he went, it's nice. If you need ketchup, it's right there. And they're free when you go through a drive-thru. So is this the kind of animal you are? Can we, like, move on from this? Jeez, you guys. Okay, so you guys are - How was your day so far? I'm not so good. Can't complain. Yeah, got some ketchup packets. I'm good. We have more important things. Yeah. We have more important things to talk about. We have met. You guys performed on my show in the past. You did an interview. I remember bumping into you a couple of times in New York.
9:40I was always super happy because I was a big fan of the music. But I also always found you guys, Beastie Boys, really funny. That was in the music. It was in the videos. And I always thought that it was kind of integral to what you were doing. Am I correct about that? Yeah. We talk about it and I feel like actually it's a thing that, I don't know, this is maybe dangerous territory here, but I think there's a lot of our audience that doesn't get that or hasn't at different points, different junctures over time. I don't see how that's possible because from the very beginning, when you guys first hit the scene, I remember thinking they're funny.
10:19Like your early videos, and this is years before I got a late night show. I remember thinking these are funny guys. They're New York funny. Am I wrong? It feels very New York. Well, yeah, we're from New York. We're from New York. Well, that's all the time we have. This is called where people are from. We've established that. All I do is geolocate people, and then we kind of wrap it up. But New York, we have it. Thanks, guys. Okay. Blay, send us off to the printer. No problem. The guy who doesn't know how to podcast works. You know, we met in high school. We were friends. we've just been friends this whole time and what do you do with your friends?
10:59You just have, you know, you're supposed to just have fun. Yeah. And so we kind of, when we were, you know, in high school making music, it was fun. And so we figured we'd just go with that. Yeah, but could I add on? You don't need to ask permission. You can just go. No, I do because he, otherwise... May I interject? You don't understand, like, otherwise he's gonna be like, Mike, I was speaking here. So, like, by me asking permission, it's i'm i'm like you know i'm taking that i do need new friends that's why i'm here because mike is a pain in the ass oh my god i asked to do this by myself no but i think like we we grew up at a certain time also in new york where it was like a we come you know adam and i anyway yawk was an only child but we come from family so i think like there's this necessity when you're like at this at a new york city table read culturally jewish table where everybody is speaking on top of each other like you you kind of have to figure out how to be funny to survive otherwise yeah it's just your way that is your dealing with the world and then i think i don't know i remember from like a really young age like we always when we first became friends like we all had monty python's big red book which was blue uh the cover was blue yep that was like as important to us as like any punk rock record or something you know what i mean that was like a very high that was like just something that was important it was important to us to aspire to be this is like a funny like that i always i'm started out getting into music you know through the beatles as a kid but i always remembered and then became crazily into their lore and learning everything about them the thing i always remember is whenever you ask like george martin or something when he first met the beatles what grabbed you about them he never said it was the music he said It was their sense of humor.
12:45And I always thought that's not possible. They were, it must've been the music. And he went, no, the music was, music was okay. It was their sense of humor. And then of course they were, they were integrated. It's, it's part of the same, I don't know. It's, it's part of the language of the music is the comedy to me anyway. No, I agree. And the Beatles were huge. Peter Sellers, they were like huge fans of the Goon Show. Yeah. You know, and that you could see once you kind of like, you geek out or nothing, you do the nerd searches of the Goon Show. and on YouTube and stuff. And you realize like a lot of their humor, you know, they were students of that.
13:19Yeah. For sure. Or contemporaries. You guys have always said, Adam, you know, started the band. He was the initiated. How did he initiate it? Was he the one that said we could do this? I wasn't there. I don't know. I was. Yeah. Were you ever in the Beastie Boys? Yeah. Briefly. Yeah. No, you could do videos. I'll vouch. I'll vouch. I'll vouch for you. You there 88 to 89, I remember. Yeah, yeah. And you were replaced by a look alike. Solid year. Yeah. It was like Fast and Furious 7. Yeah. Well, Adam, before he was in Beastie Boys, he was in a band called The Young and the Useless. Mm-hmm. But, and before there was Beastie Boys, I was in this band called The Young Aborigines, which I guess is probably a name that would get us canceled.
14:08Like, is that an appropriation? Just keep going.
14:15I mean, I'm just saying, you need to be honest about these things, like, full disclosure, right? Cultural appropriation. Again, I wasn't there. I was in a band called Cultural Appropriation. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, we killed it. Anyway, so Young Average, Yauk was our, like, everything. He was our road crew tour manager. He was the only one who knew, actually, how to make things work, honestly. and we played two gigs in one night and we then we broke up and it was john barry who was the first guitar player before adam from beastie boys and myself and kate schellenbach who is the drummer the original drummer from beastie boys she played percussion in young aborigines and uh and i played drums but then yao like really it's not even so much he wanted to be in that band but he wanted to be in the band.
15:07So he's like, all right, we're starting a new band. So then it was like John, myself, and him, and then Kate. And then I was the one who I drew the short straw. And so I had to sing, which I really didn't want to do. Wait, the short straw is the singer? In my case, I didn't want, I definitely would have way rather, at that time, would have rather played drums. Yeah. That would have been my ideal, but it didn't work out that way. Must have been. No. Anyway, so then, but Yauk was, I mean, he was the visionary in terms of like, we're going to do this. And Adam and I could go back and forth in many, we could talk story for hours about how Yauk was a master manifester.
15:50I mean, at that age, I definitely didn't know what the word manifest meant. But, you know, he was really someone who was just fucking just completely determined to do something and would get it done. I think beyond probably our, I don't know, we're a little more like, oh, yeah, seems like a good idea. We'll do it. Or just like, you know, you're with your friends. You're like, oh, we should do this thing. And like nobody does anything after just we should do this thing. But then he'd show up with like a camera and film. Like, oh, we're actually, I guess we're actually going to do the thing that we're talking about.
16:21Thank you. Yeah. It's like, you know, that thing about you're with your friends and they're like, how many times you're with your friends and somebody says the crazy idea? And you're like, yeah, okay. Okay, that just becomes one of the thousand crazy ideas that never, ever happens. 99.9 % of kids your age say, we should do this thing. And then they smoke more weed and they don't do anything. I think that you're, that's, I don't know, I was going to go somewhere with that. Go ahead. You have to single out the potheads? I know, why are you attacking the potheads? I don't know. I feel like math kids, you know, like, they're not always doing the stuff.
17:02You're right. They're always, like, doing the crazy ideas. You know what? You're right. You know? I apologize. The potheads are smoking the pot. The math kids are doing the math. I don't know. I think you're right. And I'd like to apologize. Okay. And I'm also apologizing. I'm sorry. Now, why is he looking at you? I want to apologize to Sona because she's... I partake. You don't just partake. And I'm unapologetic. I get things done. You're probably fucked up now. You have twins. I do. Yeah. They're so young. But they're also why I do it. Yeah. So it's okay. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. I had the chance to have a really nice, lovely conversation with Adam on the Warner Brothers lot.
17:44I want to say it was about a year before he passed away. He was there directing, I believe, a video, some project. And I could tell he wasn't well. but I was coming out of the commissary. He was going into the commissary and we just had like this nice bonding conversation. Wasn't that long, but it was when we just first showed up at the Warner Brothers lot to do that iteration of whatever the hell we were doing and seemed like an absolutely lovely guy. But it's always been clear to me that you call him the manifesto or the catalyst, the person who's, you've got all the ingredients. You just need someone to create the friction or set the, you know, get the thing moving.
18:22And it felt like you guys are saying that was Mab and Adam. Yeah, but it's honestly beyond that because it really was like he was the guy who would have the craziest fucking idea that anybody would possibly have in the room. And then like exactly what Adam said, then show up the next day with the equipment that would make it all possible. And then you're doing it. We didn't do all of the stuff that he was saying, though. Thankfully, yeah. He wanted to do a tour underwater. And luckily that never... Yeah. How was that going to work? Yeah, I know. He really, really thought about it, had drawings and everything.
19:02There was a lost city of Atlantis fascination that went on for a while. Actually, actually. Yeah. Did he believe the lost city of Atlantis existed? No, it wasn't about Atlantis. Oh, I see. It's just this idea of having this underwater, presenting what you're doing on tour in an underwater environment. And granted, I would give it to him. Had we done it, nobody else has ever done it prior. And there's probably a lot of good reasons for that. Yeah, logistically, it's just a lot. There's no oxygen down there. No, and with the tank, and then you have to... The rap at the same time with the oxygen.
19:47Yeah, I mean, and call me old-fashioned, call me old-fashioned, but I think when I was a kid, I was always told, like, you know, water, electricity, kind of keep the two separated. That's never been proven. Yeah. Never been proven. It's just more bullshit. Yeah, yeah. I always appreciated that the music is clearly, was so solid and so fantastic, And I want to talk about Ill Communication because when that came out, it was such a soundtrack. I just listened to it a lot at the time. And it's one of those records albums that becomes the soundtrack for that time in your life, which is, I think, a hard thing to achieve.
20:28But I think everyone who was my age or obviously younger who heard that at the time was like, OK, these are the songs that sort of imprint on us at that time. and I remembered I was, I guess I would have been in New York at the time. And I know that you guys, you came from New York. We've talked about that. And then you, and you've said before that the New Yorker grew up in like the Boston I grew up in, there was no, there's no iPhones. You're not listening to your music that way. And this is probably much more true in New York than it was in Boston. Music's coming at you from all these different places out on the street.
21:04And that that was instrumental no pun intended to how you guys formed um yeah i mean i don't think our story is unique you know that unique i feel like that's sort of how things especially bands start you know you're into this thing and you're hearing things and you find friends that are into the same sort of thing and you move along that way but something special about being in new york is that you do hear it you're we talked about a lot like you walk down the street just getting from a you know from here to there you're hearing you know music from the pizza place you're hearing you know somebody drives by with a radio or whatever like you're hearing all this music and i feel like our time was an interesting time to grow up in like you know mid-70s to hear radio you know it was a great time for radio right like we had the one station would play like david bowie and the stylistics and you know and whatever it'd be like everything would be playing and so all of those influences and in New York you'd go uptown you hear like you know when we were little kids we'd hear salsa and boogaloo coming from radios and you know punk rock up from the east side or whatever you know what I mean all these different sounds and it formed us as kids growing up and so we took that with us and and I think you know us as friends and like we all do as friends like we it's not just about the one thing like we all talk about the tv shows so like we write rap lyrics so of course we're going to talk about Chef Boyardee and we're going to talk about the odd couple and we're going to talk about all this dumb stuff that's i mean not dumb pretty dumb but it was important to us genius when you look back at it now like we all are like one of the best shows ever created but i appreciate it too because there were so many you drop in so many things like you've had a wrong you know that because i think we're a similar vintage i remembered when you guys rhymed rod carew and i'm like who's talking about rod carew anymore at, you know, pinch on the neck of Mr.
23:01Spock. I just, there's all this stuff that was evocative of my growing up in the seventies and your kind of respect for it. I remember too, when I would, when I would go to New York, this is something that was also true is that the times I lived there, you, when you got in a cab, you were listening to the music that that cab driver was listening to, which often was not top 10. So anytime you entered a space, you are inundated people talk about how we're siloed now everyone's listening to the music that they exactly want to hear through their you know uh ipods airpods airpods ear goggles ipod yes okay i'm sorry you don't have to exacerbate it sorry you could just sort of you said ipods you meant airpods yes all right this is why we don't get anything from apple this is why they don't send me in a shit the ear thing is I mispronounce Ferrari all the time but anyway that's I think you're part of a stew you have no control over it I think New York was unique I have to I didn't I only know New York but I do think New York because you had music blasting at you from all sides and all different kinds of music so I have to think that at that time that was different than Boston or Rhode Island or or anywhere else on the East Coast and beyond.
24:22New York really was the place that exists probably in the whole globe at that time where you had all this different music happening at the same time, all being blasted at you. And then I think also there's an interesting thing like what you brought up. I don't know. I guess it's maybe just that we all grew up in the 70s. As kids, we were left alone, literally left alone. And so we all, and there were only three channels or four or five channels or, you know, it was a huge deal. I remember when my parents got the cable box, that was huge. Oh, that was like going into hyper warp. Yeah. Being able to turn, you have the box where I could turn beyond the three channels or four channels or whatever it was, that was huge.
25:06And being able to watch like the Knicks and Rangers games. Back when there were three channels, there's ABC, CBS, NBC, there's like two UHF stations. and I've mentioned this before, but we would watch what came in, meaning what did we have good reception on? And once it was a Catholic mass, but the picture was really good. So my brothers and I, it's just like, because we don't have the palette that people have today. And we're just thinking like, well, this is not what we want to watch. Is it better or worse than F Troop? Do you know what I mean? Like we're just watching, it's just the electricity.
25:39It's just all we need is the electricity. Don't diss F Troop. Rat patrol. I don't know any random, Mr. Ed, I don't know any random show. You know what I mean, no offense. I'm sorry. I'm so happy you mentioned Rat Patrol.
25:56Three Nazis fighting three American GIs in the desert, and it's only the same six. Every fucking episode. That's the show? That's the show. They're just driving around in the desert shooting each other. What was the Colonel Klink show? That's Hogan's Heroes. Hogan's Heroes. I think that's pretty insane. That like every day after school, we'd watch Hogan's Heroes, which is like this, you know, sort of like - It's funny shit. It's a comedy. A comedy about - About concentration camps. A POW camp, not a concentration camp, a POW camp. You're right, you're right. So that's why it was funny. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
26:43you couldn't have known the scale of the success when you come out first album you're touring with madonna 1985 if you're going to tour with madonna 1985 i'm thinking is the time i mean just must have been an ins you're in the center of an insane whirlwind you couldn't have calculated that it was it was pretty crazy for her think about it she talks about it she never got over it think about it yeah no but it was though i think where we were on that tour and it was like it was a huge deal that we and totally absurd that we got asked to do that tour right it's a bit of a story unto its self which adam could tell or i could tell but either of us could tell it but anyway but or you you just read the book and it's in there.
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27:30Yeah. Which would make what we're doing now completely irrelevant. What if this whole thing was just read the book and then we just end it. You don't have to go into it. I'm just saying. Madonna, my point is actually that she booked a tour and she was playing like theaters and by the time the tour was actually happening, she was so beyond selling out a theater in terms of stature. Like she literally went, I think by the tour, before the tour is finished, I think she was like on the cover of Time Magazine or something. So it was like she was on her way to being a cultural phenomenon. But then she really was one by the end of that tour.
28:08Is it a coincidence that we were on that tour? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. All I'm saying is before you guys signed up, she's in theaters. Small theaters. I mean, we used to play at the same clubs in New York. Yeah. I'm just saying. No one ever talks about that part of the show. In the podcast era, this is compelling information. Well, actually, it is. Because she's floundering around. She's in theaters. It's going nowhere. You add the mixture, the key element of the Beastie Boys. Right. Suddenly, she's on the cover of Time Magazine, which at that moment was a big deal. Huge deal. Of course, now no one knows what you're talking about.
28:46You don't know who Joe Franklin is, do you? Yes, I do. We were on the Joe Franklin show. No. In 83, 84? Joe Franklin, just for our listeners. Yeah, how do you explain Joe Franklin? Joe Franklin, a guy who never should have had a show, but magically did. He name dropped everybody in show business. He had a small, it almost would today look like a cable access show. And he sat there and his show was on for 40 years. Forever. Yeah. And he had like a real studio in New York. Like you'd go and it was like very, I guess, you're more of a student than I am of this stuff. But he's like, it's vaudevillian.
29:23Yes, and a lot of his references would go over the head of anybody here, but Joe Franklin is an iconic New York institution. I can't imagine the Beastie Boys on the Joe Franklin show. It was so great. And then at the end, he was like, well, you know, fellas, whatever you call this, and he's like, I see big things happening to you since you are going to be on this show. And he was basically like, you know, you're giving the Joe Franklin bump. It was pretty great. It was pretty great. You're like, I don't know. Next thing you know. Yeah, let me go on tour. So what you're saying, Joe Franklin blesses you, then you guys bless Madonna, and then Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
30:01True. You're right. It all goes back to Joe Franklin. Seven. You guys have seven platinum selling albums, and that's thanks to a man named Joe Franklin. What's with the other ones that aren't platinum? Because we made more than seven records. I have bad news for you. I know. No, I don't. I mean, everyone's got a couple of duds. Everyone. I like them. I mean, you know. I love that your mind works that way. Because that's exactly. It's what didn't work. There's seven that did, but what didn't work. Yeah. That's exactly how mine works. I didn't know a music insider. Would you like some musical insider information?
30:41Yes, I would. So we were at our studio here in California. And I was smoking the pot. This was a long time ago. Oh, God. And we had a gold record on the wall. It was our record, Paul's Boutique. And I was looking at it and I could see it has our label and I could see that it has whatever, like nine songs on the one side. And I was looking at the actual gold record and only had four songs on it. And I was like, wait, wait, you guys. And so we opened it and we put the record on the, on a record player and gold record. I mean broke the glass and took the record out of the thing and it was somebody doing like piano versions of like Barry Manilow like feelings and yeah just some other shit when someone has a gold record they just take any record apparently I don't know about anybody else but I'm telling you I'd like to think that for you know Barbara Streisand, Donna Summer like a real mega star that it was actually their record In our case, it was some...
31:46I'm saying this is a documentary. Whoever's record that was, I'm just talking. This should lead to a quiz show kind of investigation because I think all gold records need to be examined. They all need to be recalled, and you need to go to every... And you should check them out because it's probably not their record. And if it's not on a massive scale, recount. It's a recount. We need to recall all gold and platinum plaques. Maybe the most important thing facing America right now. Oh. Yeah. At least for the next couple of months. Okay. All our energy should go into it. Well, I think, Gordon, you can be a big part of this.
32:20At least until December. Next time, you know, say Lady Gaga is here, you could, you know, really urge her to do the same flavor. You guys have come to the right place. Platinum. I have incredible power in the music industry. I didn't know you could play those. I just thought they were decorative. I didn't know either. I didn't know. I hadn't thought about it. Well, it turned out it basically seemed like, I guess it was somebody's record. there was spray painted gold or something. I don't know. Because who would? Who would break the glass and put it on a turntable? They weren't counting on you guys.
32:51You were the X Factor. We were the sleuths that uncovered this incredible crime ring. This could be an action movie with John Cena. Oh. I'm just saying. John Cena and The Rock? The Rock breaks the glass. We can't afford The Rock. No, no. One of them. We can't do both. Just stick to John Cena. we can get John Cena because he does commercials Jason Momoa? too much oh alright but how about this Jason Statham is the bad guy who makes the plaques this is way too hot for me right now I love it I want in on this and I'd like to be a producer but also I'd like to be in the film I can I just say this now that we're we're in Hollywood California anybody that like makes action movies I just want to be in the background during an action scene I want to get pushed into like a a thing of fruit that's what i just want to be in a movie where like they're chasing and somebody pushes me into like a fruit cart yeah i think i think uh adam ad rock would like to be pushed into fruit in the background of uh but wait a minute fruit is that like a safe landing like what is it's just always the thing where like people are walking they're like whoa and the car and they get pushed into the thing of fruit there's always the chase scene that right like goes through like that's what i'm saying like hotel kitchen and the cafe secret back entrance this was my coffee reference to cafe Yeah.
34:09I'll see that that is done. I'll see that that happens. Just the listeners. Yeah. That and please help us uncover this platinum plaque. Yeah, gold. Controversy. It wasn't platinum in the story. It wasn't, you're right, it was gold. I'm sorry, stickler for the details. I'm gonna say probably the same for the platinum. Yeah, who knows? Maybe it's a status thing. Like gold, you're like, eh. Just spray paint that album by the Parkage family. I mean, Platinum, maybe they had a better eye for detail. Guys, you moved to LA. What year do you move to LA? I'm going to get this thing back on track. We came out here to record Paul's Boutique because we were working with these producers called the Dust Brothers who are from out here.
34:53And then we'd had this whole falling out with Russell Simmons and Def Jam. And we just wanted to get away from like the New York scene that we were in. And so we were coming out here to record that album. Now, did you have, because I'll admit to having an attitude a bit about coming to LA. Did you have an attitude about LA? Yeah, I definitely have an attitude, but then - I think I still do. We got it. Because I'm not good about driving. Are you good about actually driving to all this stuff? I'm one of the best drivers in the world. Well, I saw I've been driving, but do you actually make the effort?
35:24Like, do you go downtown to the Arts District? Oh, downtown. Oh, God, no. No, I live in a bubble. It's just the neighborhood. That's my point. It's my house and then there's like a frozen yogurt place six minutes away and I have my playlist and that's it. Right, Sona? Yeah, you don't like to leave. I've never seen the sun. So fro-yo, that's it. No, I do try. And one of the things that was good for me is a bunch of years ago when I started doing live sets in preparation for something, just going to these weird theaters that I didn't know about, Dynasty Typewriter Hotel, places downtown. and then I got into a thing where a couple of friends of mine and I decided, let's just eat at diners and restaurants that were established before we were born, which was 1963.
36:10So we just ended up finding all these places that had been in, and they had to be in continuous operation. So we'd find these weird places to eat in downtown LA that had sawdust on the floor that the cops in the 1940s used to frequent. And so then I started to really appreciate, there's tons of amazing stuff in LA, but it didn't come naturally. I have a lot of things that I need to say I wish I should have written them down Wait, which was a sandwich place With the old Philips Was Philips on your list? Was your diner thing a specific dish Or was it just to find a rest Find a place that was in My friends Rodman and Greg and I Would say it has got to be in Big Rod?
36:49Not Big Rod Not Big Rod I've seen his ride, it's fine Oh Why did I go to a dick joke? Well, I'll tell you why. I have two moves. You stick to it, and they're sitting on marijuana. That's the two. Pot hands. Pot hands. Pot hands and two. That's all I've got. If you look at my milieu, my oeuvre, that's all there is. All right, so, it's just about the diner and the thing before. Okay, do you know what the Mille Mille is? Is that what it's called? No, Mille Mille. Is that what you're trying to say? So, you're the best driver in the world. I went to Italy this summer, a little vacation. and I asked Michael Diamond, I said, what do you think of Bologna?
37:30He's like, I went through there on the Mille Mice or whatever. And I had to Google it because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Mike, go. I sort of luck into things in my life. And one of the things I have lucked into. You're here, aren't you? Yeah. See, see, huh? High five. Or at joke. Yeah. One of the things I got asked to do was this classic, this rally race that runs every year in Italy and has since like basically the birth of the automobile. So you did that. So I did that. And when I had an incredible dinner in Bologna, it was how good was the food in Bologna? 10 out of 10.
38:1210 out of 10. Yeah. Was it Italian food? So much Italian food. Oh my God. There's like Italian food everywhere. I just would be funny. i just would have liked it if it wasn't a dying thing i did get chinese one night and uh and you know not so much yeah are you a chinese one night and we're just rolling the dice i don't know switch it up we've been there for like three weeks i was like yeah i didn't see that but still i mean that's wow yeah that's a high risk maneuver so um adam you've been interested in acting as i would say when i first would watch the videos i thought it's like there was almost like a cross in the road where you could have it could be music but you very much seem like a comedic actor performer that's felt like that was in your bones almost like a dead end kids kind of thing i don't know if you know that a lot of yeah yeah yeah a lot of people like a lot of people want me to go solo for one side note right i can't i couldn't do that to them do You still have the letters?
39:17Yeah. Wallpaper. You know, yeah, that's what I thought I would do when I was a kid. I wanted to be an actor. And then I did a couple of things. I hate the hours. Yeah. I know what it's like for comedy. I mean, but acting itself is, it's a hassle. You're not going to talk about Ronald? Well, we can. I feel like that's your opportunity to jump in if you want. Adam had a very great role in a great TV show with an esteemed actor, Edward Woodward. The show is called The Equalizer, long before Denzel Washington discovered said property. Right. I remember this TV show. And then Adam played a rich kid gone bad.
40:08We were all, how old were we? Like 17 or something? Yeah. 16, 17. And the highlight of the whole show was in busting the drug crime ring. Edward Woodward takes this silver chain, I think it was silver, from around his neck. and he throws it around the villain and lassoes him with his necklace. Like Wonder Woman. Yeah, it was a very Wonder Woman-like act. The episode is called Mama's Boy and I was Mama's Boy. You were Ronald. And my first line, professional acting line, there's kids that want to get into the back room and I go, yo, chill. That was my first thing that I did. and uh yeah and at the end uh the guy has a sword and the equalizer comes in he's like oh you caught me red-handed he throws at him and the sword gets flying and yeah anyways that's that's where the necklace goes i don't you know but you had kind of like a uh rubber-faced comedian like i could have been i could there's so many things i could have done i mean i still could are you offering me a job yes yes i am we're in hollywood should i have a show like like what like i want don't know like like stand-up or no i don't think it's stand-up i think it's yeah but it's in acting that's the show it's in acting that's the problem that's what you don't like you don't want the hours that suck yeah yeah you got to stick around you got to hang around you got to stay in your trailer someone knocks on the door and says be another two hours that's not for you no i get tired you know well there's a bed in the trailer i know but then you got to wake up it's just a lot It's a lot of hard work.
41:51It's really hard work. Mike, no? No, I agree. A lot of work. But I'm going to also say stand-up not for you. Because stand-up is really a lot of work. You have to write your bits. You have to keep coming up with new bits and then keep trying out the bits. And you have to leave your house. That part sucks. Yeah. So you wanted something where you stay in your house and you sleep most of the time. I'd like it. Okay. I can help you. I can figure this out. Does it feel to you guys now that you're looking back? Rubber face? Yeah. I knew you'd come around. Yeah, but yeah, what is rubber? That's the way you can kind of bend your face in this great way.
42:32It reminded me of, why am I blanking on his name, that fantastic actor from the Dead End Kids? Satch? Yeah, Satch, but who played him? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I see. Gorsi? Leo Gorsi. No, no, Leo Gorsi, not Leo Gorsi. The guy who's not Leo Gorsi. Yeah. I know how you're talking about. Think of it. But anyway, I swear to God, you were channeling him sometimes. We actually, my - Am I right? An old friend of mine, Max Perlick, was obsessed with the Dead End Kids. We used to talk about it a lot. Yeah, yeah. Leo Gorsi. He was the main guy. He was like the leader. Leo Gorsi was like the ringleader.
43:05And then there was, help me. Help me somebody. They're on it. Yeah, I see. Three of us are Googling, frantically Googling right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, well. All right, so I'm not the lead guy. I am like the goofy sidekick. I don't know. I swear to God, I got a dead end kids vibe the first time I saw you and in the different videos. And, you know, I just thought like, okay, that's a possible avenue for this gentleman. Clearly what you chose was spectacular. We are lucky it worked out. Yeah. Hunt's Hall? Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall. Yes, that's it. Hunt's Hall. You got a Hunt's Hall vibe. And I mean that as a great compliment because I think he's one of the all-time comedy greats.
43:43So there you go. Thank you.
43:54i did have something i wanted to say to go back to what you want to say which was something on topic you would it were you talking about the comedy aspect of our band and stuff and we talked about it's like um when we would write lyrics and we'd write our rhymes the you know one of the most important things was to say something that would make the other two laugh right or the other two to be like oh that you know i mentioned rod carew and they'd be like that would get something inspired you know whatever but the main thing was to make each other laugh and we put out a record people seem to respond to that and so it's like anything in life you get a response and you just sort of go with that thing yes yeah that was our writing room right like we are was just we just sit around with these uh you know our spiral notebooks Sometimes the composition books, the bound ones.
44:44Just loose paper. Once a while. But anyway, that was the biggest, that was the most nerve-wracking thing was like getting the approval of these two guys, Adam and R.A.P. Yauk in the room of either the laugh or the, oh, that shit is good. You know, that was the thing. After that, it didn't really matter. It's so funny because to think about you guys, the three of you sitting there with composition books loosely whatever working it out is makes perfect sense to me as someone who's been in not that it's a similar process but in a different world different mind shaft but it makes perfect sense to me but also seems absurd of course you'd have to do that of course you'd have to sit around and figure this out writing it down to me the ingredient that i think the magical ingredient that you guys had was it always was clear to me that you were having fun that you there was something really joyous about the music the process three friends doing this together making each other laugh and getting to do this on a grand scale that felt like the magic elixir to the whole thing it didn't have to have a job it's fucking awesome yeah but you know there are so many groups where they manage to lose that there are so many groups that manage to after the initial success, they lose sight of it and it becomes a job.
46:10And I feel like Beastie Boys, that never happened. No, I agree. I mean, listen, there were compromises we'd have to make. Everybody has to make them in life. Oh, really? Yeah. Do you want to snooze? This is insane. Snooze to me. Snooze to you, Adam. Adam's never compromised, but I guess. I mean, we're both wearing the same clothes. You're saying that I chose.
46:38I think you said it though very well of just that I do feel I think we're both super grateful of the fact that we got to basically just like do what we always did right we would just get together in a room with each other and try to make each other laugh but somehow it operated on this big scale you know it's and it's this thing of like so that's what I mean of compromise is like yeah of course we would let let be like okay you want that to be the single on the album like we don't ever want to listen to it but fine if that's what you want to do. you think people are gonna listen to fine. It's funny because I just, just looking at the video for intergalactic, you know, planetary or, or, um, sabotage, or I just see, and it actually almost every video I can think of you guys made.
47:19I kind of wish I was there because it looks like you're having a really good time. We were screwing around really, really fun. And, and that comes through to me. That's the secret sauce and it is hard to sustain. I mean, as you say, I'm sure there are bumps in the road or compromises here and there, but it never looked that way from my vantage point. Well, apparently they're those records that didn't turn platinum that we found out about today. Those two. Yeah. Who cares? Because they're not really your records anyway. That's true. I don't know. Spoken word records. Yeah. I don't know what happens.
47:59We got very lucky. We just happened to be friends that just wanted to hang out. Which we would do when we weren't recording. We'd always kind of like just be together anyways. But we didn't have to. I don't know. We got lucky. I was friends with my friends. Worked with my friends. But no, I think it is unusual. We prioritized being friends. I mean, I guess I'm friends or I know of other bands that are of our similar age that are still going, whatever. But everybody's on their own tour bus. Yes, they're not talking. Whatever. I would say not talky. That's strong. Do you want to say names or? No.
48:37They speak through lawyers. They hate each other. No, no. I'm not even saying hate each other. They're just, you know, they don't, they're not, they're not doing the tour to hang out with. The soda's gone. They're not doing the tour to hang out with each other. That's what I was going to say. Soda's gone flat. Yeah. All right. That's funny. You need to fix. Like a flat soda. It's good if your stomach's upset. Ginger ale, it's flat. Really? Better for your stomach. I didn't know that. Hold on, wait. You wanted to go look flat. The effervescence is what is good for your tummy. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
49:05You said something controversial, and you just want to glaze over it. I want to shut this down, because I realized I think I made a mistake, and I just want to shut it down. No, the ginger ale is real, though. I only know that because my mom told me. That's what my mom told me. Yeah, my mom wasn't a doctor, though. My mother was not a doctor, either, yet she operated on many a brain. Oh, my mother was Irish, though. Mine, too. So maybe that's what it is. So you're saying as an ancient... Are you a mix, then? I think safely everybody in this room can say we are. Yeah. Yeah. Not me. I am 100%, 100.000 % Irish.
49:40Really? No Portuguese? No. No Portuguese? Nope. Why? I've put one ingredient missing. Why Portuguese? Boston, New England, a lot of Portuguese. No, but we were in Ireland bouncing around. Whatever. I don't want to. It started with flat soda. Guys, I blame you. It's your dynamic that has ruined what could have been, I think one of the greatest podcasts ever recorded. But no, Miele Miche. And then, what the fuck? Where are we now? I feel like that's what you're gonna say on my tombstone now, my D. Miele Miche. Does Miele Miche actually mean anything? No, I don't think so. Why did they get us back here?
50:24I don't think so. I brought us back here. it's it's mele mele and then m-i-g-l-i-a it means thousand miles yeah yeah me mele me you don't have to lean that front of the mic you don't have to actually i don't know how this works jesus christ not a good mic person i've always had a memory because you guys have that line about never rock the mic with the pantyhose when i was on late night there was a guy i could see you know all those years i could see a band getting set up and that lyric was always in my head and there was a band setting up which will go unnamed just because i don't think anyone remembers them but they had a hit that week wow and they were setting up and we could watch them prepare on camera because the the cameras were just on throughout 30 rock so i'm getting ready for the show doing my stuff and i see this guy getting ready and then i see him driving uh i see him tying panties and bras to his mic stand and i go downstairs and i go in and i say to the guy you gotta take those off.
51:19You might stand. And he said, but this is our act. And I said, if that's your act, you have no act. Oh, man. But we did it because I remembered your guys' lyrics. Is that pantyhose? Is that pantyhose? It wasn't pantyhose, but I take those down. You're kind of like passively, aggressively blaming that action on us, basically. I'm saying you were responsible for this. they weren't going anywhere. Also, he was at a hardware store two weeks later. Their families remember them. Their friends remember them. No, they were all taken away. Yeah. Because that's how bad the band was. But also, to be clear, but the lyric is about the, you know, the, like, I mean, this is not patty hose on our mics that we're using now.
52:01But it's, you know, it's kind of like a technical term. So I misheard your lyrics, took it out on a guy who was just trying to make it on a late night appearance. And now they're all gone. I'm backing you. They're doing it all wrong. They're doing it all wrong. Because there's no pop filter aspect. but that's some tchotchkes he's putting on his mic stand. I mean, it's disgraceful. It was Steven Tyler's shit and it had to stop. Yeah. I mean, it's Steven Tyler, at least it's Steven Tyler. He's supposed to have the sparks. People know Aerosmith. I know. They did go on to have quite a lot of success.
52:34Yeah. It was Aerosmith. Oh, do you think Aerosmith were on Joe Franklin? Is that Conan O 'Brien bump? All right, wait, hold on. Aerosmith could have been on Joe Franklin. They had to have been on Joe Franklin in like 72. Everybody was on Joe Franklin. And Joe Franklin, I was not on Joe Franklin, but we had Joe Franklin on my show in like 93. Really? Yeah, or 94. And I think I sat in a hot tub with him. It's possible. In a hot tub? I'm going to ask listeners. Was he fully clothed or not? Well, that's, I don't want to talk about it. That's personal. We're shutting it down. We're shutting it down.
53:08I want to congratulate you both on this incredible run. Of being old? No, of just making it to this podcast. Okay. of all the things you've achieved, you could argue this is the acme of your career. It's a bookend, Joe Franklin. Yes. Not without, I don't want to get whatever, sappy or anything, but when you go back and listen to the music, one of you is not here. Is it a joyous thing for you to hear, Adam, when you're listening to that music now? Is it ever rough to listen to him or has enough time gone by where it's all good? Well, I'd say, A, we probably didn't, neither of us listened to, not to burst the bubble.
53:50Well, we don't listen to our, we're not going to listen. Yeah, I mean, you go back and watch an old episode of your show or The Simpsons. At night, I wear a tattered wedding dress and just watch in my mansion. No, I don't. Yeah, shocking. We're not the audience for our own music. But no, I don't know. I think it's all of the above. I think enough time has gone. There was definitely a period of time where I couldn't even open up a computer music file, something that we are working on, because I would just get too sad. The process would bring me right back to making, because we really worked with Adam up to very close to the very, very end, because that's what made him happy.
54:33So anyway, I feel like that time has sort of worked its way through. and then there's times like i'll hear something and be like oh yeah oh you know the rest is like when you now i think once in a while like our things will get licensed to like uh i don't you know we'll we'll give a sync license to um like mario brothers or something so you'll be like on an airplane or something and that will you'll have forgotten or at least at my uh point of aging i'll have forgotten that we've licensed that song and then the thing will come on in the airplane oh oh, yeah, oh, that's kind of, you know, it's sort of actually nice.
55:07I mean, Beastie Boys music in a good way is, it's out there. You're going to hear it. You know, it's not, you don't have to go looking for it to hear it in the best way. So I'm just curious if that, you know, when you hear your own music, is it evocative of anything or do you just think like, yep, that was then, this is now? Well, two things. For me, I feel very similar. It was very hard at first because not only, you know, did we record all the music together with Adam, but we were also, you know, best friends for decades. And so we were together every day. And so when you lose a friend like that, it's really, really hard.
55:46And, you know, not everybody has a friend who's like a musician whose voice you hear every day. It's hard. It's definitely less shitty now, right? But the thing about us hearing our music, like for me, hearing the music, the whole thing is weird. Do you know what I mean? That anybody likes our band that we've played at Madison Square Garden or that we have platinum records that people want to listen to. The whole. Platinum records that are not our records. Multiple platinum records. The whole thing is weird. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So when you hear it in a movie or you hear it from a car or something, it's very weird.
56:22Still, I don't think it'll always be weird. I think that's healthy because it is miraculous. anything like that is miraculous and to get to a point where it's like but of course for we are the beastie place it's like you've that's no we're also not like we don't know how to make songs that's the other thing we don't know how to like craft a perfect song and write a good melody that brings you in with like the pre-chorus into the chorus with the vamp and the thing we don't actually know how to do so what you're saying adam is you might have been like a potential hunts hall but you were no this whole time but you were no linda perry i am hunts hall not linda perry yeah well congrats on the 30th anniversary yes oh wait no i have a question though so i mean you're not allowed to ask me questions that's not how this works yeah go ahead no i think it's funny like what i'm saying like i really think did resonate with all three of us even when yak was alive of just that we felt like houses work that we're just basically making these inside jokes and that it actually other people get let in right it's sort of miraculous that other people could even appreciate them but when so when you're crafting a bit on whatever level whether you're writing for somebody else or your own anyway yeah all right but no what writing but no but just do you feel the same way that like oh this is just something we thought was funny to us like i can't believe that just going out on the air and people most of my career has been all of my career i think has been me thinking of things that i think might make one of my other comedy people laugh and then later on someone's talking to you about it because they saw it on television or it meant something to them and i still find that uh crazy you know it's just we're we're all uh getting away with highway robbery just we're having fun and uh making things that delight ourselves and um then it's a thing and so it's nice it's a it's i think i'll always be more fascinated by your side of the business by music because i i try to understand it but i don't it's just not it's not in me i i like to play it i like to play at it but to create music on the level that that that you guys did uh is mysterious to me and really endlessly fascinating and every comedian i know secretly wishes that they were in a group and they were making music and playing madison square garden no but there is a big there is a huge comedy music yes crossover appreciation like when we that last video that we did that yuck directed for make some noise and you know we had some reason you weren't in it but we had basically every sounds like you were close but we had every comedian alive was in it i remember uh me insinuating i don't mean that it's a shot no no I think it was shot on the Warner Brothers lot and I'm talking, I was talking to Yalke and it would have been so easy for him to say, hey Conan, do you want to hop in?
59:30You have five minutes. I mean, and I think he had a camera rolling. Yeah, I mean, he's like, I mean, you know. I remember him pushing me out of the way of the camera. He actively avoided asking you to be in it. He leaned against me to push me out of the way of the camera. Yeah, he was like, oh, you know Will Ferrell. He was like, you know Will Ferrell, right? Oh, I know. I mean, he just happens to be here. Yeah, yeah. He's not. No, he wanted my Rolodex. That's what he wanted. No, there is a funny crossover. And when I would see you guys, I would think, oh, to make music that everyone wants to sing along to, but also get to be funny at the same time as you guys were.
1:00:06It was like, that'd be fun. But no, I'm here with you, Sana. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, I love it. Okay, that's nice. This is fun. Not you specifically. but I love the process. Guys, I'm going to wrap it up just because I'm not getting paid. It has been 30 years. Where are the sponsorship breaks? We don't do those here. That's dirty linen. Where's the ads for medicinal marijuana and stuff like that? We used to have really fun ads and then this is like a crazy humble brag but at the beginning and then this thing got big where the ads now are all for like legitimate, boring companies. It used to be for like fracture prints, which turned photographs into glass.
1:00:53And I had more fun doing those ads. Yeah. Then it became, you know, oh, American Express. That's no fun. Magoosh. Magoosh was fun. Yeah. Please, I don't want to waste their time. What's Magoosh? I don't really remember what it was, but he just kept, the name of the company was Magoosh and you just kept screaming. Okay, please. Now you're, please, we don't want them to get into the Magoosh thing. Guys, I - You can't call me a Magoosh. He's a Magoosh. I'm a Magoosh. You're a Magoosh. I don't remember what Magoosh did. Gentlemen, I thank you for being here. It was really nice having you. And I wish you both well.
1:01:29Please come back if you ever can. Thank you. Because you're super smart, funny, gifted people. And it's nice to hang with you. And I appreciate it. Wow. Thank you. Like I said before, we don't have jobs. So we're around. welcome to work here if you like well let's not get crazy it's just nice to be here yeah i mean that would ruin everything then that would be a job i mean conan o 'brien needs a friend with conan o 'brien sonam of sesian and matt gorley produced by me matt gorley executive produced by adam sax jeff ross and nick leo theme song by the white stripes incidental music by jimmy Vivino.
1:02:09Take it away, Jimmy.
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