Christina Ricci

26:35And you kept doing, and then your publicist said, it's Conan. And you said, oh, I know. And then you took out a separate bottle. Yeah. That said extra strength. And you really went to town. What the fuck was that all about? You are so good in, I'm just going through randomly things that you've worked on, but I remember seeing, I really liked the movie Sleepy Hollow when it came out, you did with Tim Burton. And I was thinking about that movie and Tim Burton had this quote about you as he said that you had an ambiguous quality. He's such an amazing director, but he said he was drawn to you because different people could read in different things to your performance.

27:19And I don't know. Do you agree with that? Did you think he had, he, he nailed something about you? I do think there's something a little bit ambiguous about me. I mean, people, I'll compliment the person. They think I'm making fun of them. I don't know that I'm the easiest person to read. And so perhaps that's what he's talking about. I wonder how much of it is you have beautiful eyes, famously beautiful eyes. And there are quite large, you have large, beautiful eyes. And I wonder if that's a way that people can maybe make it, I don't know. You're reflecting something back at them. You're not even doing anything.

27:51but they're reading something into it. Project something onto it. Yeah. Maybe. I also have, I'm also very flat in affect and I think that people just assume, I don't know. I just think that that's difficult because I don't emote that much normally. Yeah. I think I'm probably the opposite. Yes. I'm constantly emoting. Constantly emoting. And I have beady little eyes. Well, I wouldn't, it's not about your eyes. That reflect nothing. Okay. Some say dead. Yeah. Dead doll eyes. You just wear your, everybody knows what you're thinking. I'm a giant mood ring. Yes, you're a giant mood ring. That would be very helpful, though, if we could turn different colors based on our moods.

28:36That would be so helpful. It's good. It's interesting to me that you probably knew as a very, as a kid, you clearly knew this is something I'm interested in doing. I'm always fascinated to find out, how does Christina Ricci know, oh no, I can do this. I can act. I can be in film. How do you figure that out at such a young age? I was in second grade and they brought in sheets of lines and stuff into music class and they said, we're putting on a Christmas pageant and here's the pageant we're doing and read these lines. And the second I saw them and started reading them and participating, I just, I remember sitting there by myself and being like, oh, I know how to do this and nobody else here does.

29:24And I just was like, oh, that's so crazy. I know exactly what he wants. And this kid over here can't do it. And I just felt really in that moment, I felt like I had found my thing. Yeah. And then it just always felt like that to me. Like I just had a shorthand into understanding what was needed to do that work as a kid. That's such a, it's, I would imagine, because I do not know that it would be akin to just knowing at an early age that you're athletic. It's what it felt like. You know what I mean? Being really good at a sport. Yeah. Or just sports in general that you get out there and, oh, I know what this is.

30:00I know what to do. And this is what's needed now. And I'm going to do this. And I did it. And I struck that person out or I scored the winning touchdown. I did not have that. My childhood was a series of nope, nope, nope, nope. and then figuring out, like you say, oh, I know what this is. I can make my friends laugh. And oh, it's time for us to do, we're all supposed to write something. I'm gonna write something silly. I know how to do that. And people are laughing. And so it was, I think kids figure out very quickly what their, call it a superpower, what their ability is. It's an innate thing.

30:43We tend to figure it out quickly. I think it's rare that someone figures that out at like 58, you know? Yeah, but you do see people who are lost and just have no idea what their special thing is. That's very sad. Yeah. As a parent, I have a real fear of that happening to my kids. Really? Yeah. Well, your kids are probably pretty young, I'm guessing. Ten and three. So you're already like, damn it! They've accomplished nothing! Nothing! I just mean, you have to think about all the pitfalls. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess also being someone who had happened for very early, I would love for them to have that because it's such a relief.

31:18And I really have seen how how lucky I was to find it so early. It's interesting because then there's the question of, would you want them, would you be comfortable if they were interested in getting into the business? I know to me, I was just like, nope, no child of mine is going to be in. Because I always thought show business and I still think it's a racket. Like what I'm doing is illegitimate. It's a racket. And at some point, someone's going to come and shut this whole thing down. You know, because my parents, you know, went to graduate school and were doctors and lawyers. and I just, I somehow got into vaudeville.

31:56Like I got into a time machine and I'm a guy with seltzer and baggy pants and vaudeville. And that's how it feels to me anyway. It doesn't feel legitimate. Yeah, no, I agree. I go back and forth. My son has shown a lot of interest in it. I think he'd be very good at it. But there's also these, all the logistical things, like who's going to take him? I work full time. Like I can't go to set with him. and yeah and also it's risky who knows if he's going to handle it that well well yes it's so funny that what I've learned as a parent is I'm so afraid of even the notion of my children being disappointed or having their feelings hurt but it's happened to me a billion times and I'm fine with that so why am I projecting onto them Of course, I can have this happen a billion times, but God forbid it should ever happen.

32:53And of course it's happened to them. Yeah. But just the notion of it, you just think, no one's going to say anything to my child. No, I know. I have a very strong, overly attached. I'm overly attached to my son. And anything he experiences emotionally, I also experience. And it's not healthy. But I have the same thing. I always worry about him going into a new sport. Because what if he feels bad about not being good at it, or if anybody's mean to him, or if someone makes fun of his sneakers, I'm like, well, we're going to get you the best sneakers they've ever seen. Who the hell did you just become?

33:30I don't know. Oh, we'll get you sneakers, we will. You become the creature from Leprechaun. That's the problem. That was me being intense. This is why I'm such a good actor. Yeah, totally. I did, and I do. I'm a huge fan. That's called intensity. It must be nice to, I mean, the success of Yellow Jackets is got to be quite satisfying. Because what I've noticed as I move along and I'm much farther along on my path is that as I get older, I appreciate and enjoy things more. getting to doing this podcast or whatever any any any gig that I have I kind of appreciate it it has getting to do the show for max or hosting the oscars it just feels like oh I'm I think I would have I would have been so anxious and neurotic about it at a younger age but now when nice things come along I can I can appreciate it more do you have that with like yellow jackets I do.

34:40I really do. And, you know, I was, you know, I had like sort of my big moment in my 20s and went to all the award shows and all the stuff. And then that sort of stopped and I didn't really work that much for a while. And then this Yellow Jackets thing happened. And then all of a sudden we were going to award shows again and all this stuff. and it was so interesting because this time I could just be like, oh my God, I love that guy. Hey, I'm Christina. And like just be really open and easy and fun. And like I, you know, it just, it was, like you said, like I wasn't, I wasn't so self-conscious and I wasn't so worried about everything.

35:17I didn't take myself as seriously as I used to. And so it's actually, it has been really, really fun. There's this quote, one of the Bee Gees said, second fame is so much better and i guess the bg stories which i didn't which i didn't even really know there's an amazing documentary about them and i didn't really know much about them at all but it's a fantastic documentary and i didn't realize they were huge pop stars in the 60s and then it soured it like anything it the time passed and then they're trying to figure it out and they're bumming around and they're completely out of it and they're they're a once was and then And they reconstitute and become this 70s juggernaut phenomenon, one of the biggest groups of the 70s, if not the biggest.

36:03And they were like, oh, it's just much more pleasant the second time around because we know what that is. And so now it can be more about, as you said, you can go to these shows and not be neurotic and freaked out and just enjoy. Yeah. Just enjoy. It also feels so different now, too. Like just Hollywood in general feels like there. How does it feel different? Everybody just seems like happy to be there in a way that wasn't like that in the early 2000s. Everything felt so serious then and about like power and position and ambition. And it was really serious. And now it just feels like people actually celebrate at these award shows and are like happy to see each other.

36:50And there's enough room for everybody. And I feel like it was so much smaller before that it didn't feel like there was enough room for everybody. And, yeah, it just has like a much nicer feeling, I think, in general. Something, too, about maybe the fact that the business has changed so much. Yeah. So, you know, it's crazy to think about it. But I know when I came up, when you came up, but still we're talking about a limited number of networks. There's no streaming. That's what I mean, yeah. Yeah. And now if you've got a good idea, there's a good chance you can get it out there somewhere. I mean, even the nature of movies has changed where it's not the giant blockbuster.

37:32And there's a plus and minus to that that's at the award shows. But there is less of a feeling of it's a small club that a few people are allowed into. Yeah. So many people can have a great idea, get it on YouTube, get it out there. If they've got talent and ability, they can find a streamer. They can find a way to get their vision made. And it just feels a little more user-friendly now. Yes. It's softer and gentler and less desperate. Unless you want to shoot in Los Angeles. Well, then, I mean, honestly. That's getting weird. I don't actually know how anyone makes that happen. Yeah. It's really getting, I mean, not to take things down, but that is a big change that's happened, is people will shoot something that takes place in Los Angeles on Hollywood and Vine, and they'll go up to Nova Scotia to shoot it and recreate Hollywood and Vine.

38:32It's true. And put your star, Christina Ricci. I'm sorry, I will not allow that. You do not. They moved it an hour ago. They moved it an hour ago. Putting my foot down. Without telling you. We either shoot in L.A. or... That's the kind of power I've gotten this down. Can't have my star in your movie. What's it like? Because with Yellow Jackets, you have this interesting thing where there's your character, Misty, you're playing as an adult, but also there's an actress who's playing you as a child. I shouldn't say child. We're teenagers. As a teenager, yeah. As a kid. to me at 85 it still seems like a child because I'm doing that thing where I want to say I'm 85 now just to get used to it yeah I've already started I'm going as far as 87 so anytime I can't work anything I love that anytime I can't work anything I'm like well I'm basically 87 when it comes to technology and the more I say it like the more I'm feeling more comfortable I love that you're two years older than me I love it I'm older than you is it is it Sammy Hanratty is that the actress who plays you and it's interesting I don't know how much do you have communication with the actress who plays younger you to try and see if anything needs to line up or is that overthinking it?

39:43Well, we did it in the very beginning. You know, we shot the pilot and then COVID happened. So it was about almost a year and a half later that we actually went to series. And so she and I met up to discuss, we're really, really different people personality-wise. Like it's surprising how different we are. And so we sort of compared notes, the different performance notes that we've been given because it was interesting to hear what they wanted to correct or were worried about. Because, like, you know, she's a very bubbly, dynamic, like, charming, sweet person. And so to hear what they were concerned was going to come out in her performance was interesting to me.

40:21And then to hear what they were afraid I was going to do was very interesting as well. So, like, mine was all about, like, no, she's charming and everyone loves her and all she wants is love and she's human. and hers were like, Kathy Bates from Misery. And like, you know what I mean? So it just was really funny. There's a rumor that they put her on depressants. We got to reach you up a little bit. We're putting you on a massive dose of depressants. Yeah, they were like trying to make me more adorable and her less adorable. And so by doing that, we both felt like we understood. where the parameters were for the character.

41:03But beyond that, we never really... I'm very sensitive about not being condescending. I even have trouble complimenting people because I feel like it's condescending. And I guess I don't know why, but I just do. So anytime the idea of giving another actress performance advice or notes to me just sounds like really I'm overstepping my place. Yeah. So we both have very we have our own performances. And when you think about it to 30 years, like 30 years and a lot of intense stuff. That's right. 30 years of like squeezing and rejection and pressure and trauma and all this stuff. You're not going to be the same exact person you were.

41:45So I think it really does work out. And the writing on the show is really good. And the character is very consistent on the page. Yeah. So it's kind of okay for any kind of differences or variations in our performances. The people are intense about this show. They I mean, the fans are hardcore and which is a compliment because I think we live in an era where if you put the detail in the work into the writing and performing and you really try and tell an interesting story, there's an intensity to the fandom. it's actually a compliment it's like the fans I think fandom now is very literate if you look at shows like yours or shows like White Lotus people are really they really get into trying to find the clues what does this mean, what does that mean and they treat it the way it should be treated which is it's an art form which is nice, it's not just oh yeah I watch another episode of show they crank out every week they take it very seriously and they hold us to certain standards and they let you know when they're disappointed.

42:50And they're quite, you know, very... Do you go online and read stuff? Well, I'm 87 when it comes to technology, so I don't know how to get on Reddit because you have to have a Google account. My Google account is in Romanian and I don't know how to change it. So I can't get onto Reddit. We have some people here who can help you if you want. I've heard about all the things and a lot of the other actresses on the show do read all the stuff. Like Melanie, Melanie Linsky, apparently, she told me she reads everything. I can't find everything or else I might read it. I don't know. My experience has been, if it's dire.

43:30Someone will tell you. Someone's going to tell me. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. If it's an extreme one way or the other, like, you know, Blay will come in and tell me people really loved that thing you did. And it will be a different, It'll be Jeff Ross who comes and tells me, you got a problem? We got a problem? You know, what did I do? That satanic ritual you did? Apparently it's very offensive. No, I feel like fans love the satanic ritual. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll tell me that and then Jeff will say, no, people are lawyered up. That's how I feel. Jesus is lawyered up. I feel that way too.

44:05Yeah. People are going to tell me. And sometimes, but it's weird now too because everything's supposed to be everywhere, but then also things are hard to find. Like I did this, you know, a series of interviews with Melanie and I made some comment about this song that's in the show that I had a lot of pent up rage about because the entire time we were shooting, everybody tried to gaslight me and tell me that it was a great song. And I was like, I know it's not. So everyone can stop lying to me. So when we finally went to the press, I did it. And then my producing partner was like, oh, it's everywhere.

44:38And I was like, what are you talking about? And then it was like, this clip was everywhere about me. And the band responded and all of this stuff. And I had absolutely no idea. And I've kind of felt in that instance, somebody should have told me that I shouldn't, that I, you know, shouldn't be bad mouthing somebody's song. So in a weird way, I feel I trust the safety net, but then I don't trust it so much because then things, I'll see things and I'm just like, oh yeah, no, I should have been told about that. I think there's a lot more of everything. there's a million opinions but and there's a million ways to whatever piss people off the flip side of it is it because there's so much people forget yeah i guess i mean that band won't forget right right but they shouldn't because i'm no they have a lot of fans i was in the you know everybody everybody else loved it it was yeah so clearly they're they're great and i'm i'm weird But I actually, yeah, I don't find out too much.

45:37I just found out recently from Melanie that apparently there are people who really hate our characters. And I didn't know. It's just that everyone loved me. So I'm just going to keep going with that. Yeah. Well, also, I think it's good as you get into your 87th or 88th year. Who was it? I think it was Jeff Daniels. He did some show and the actor Jeff Daniels. And the press started, critics started to ask him, you know, well, some people think this about this project or some people think that. And he said, you know, guys, I can't help you. I can't help you. I'm, you know, this is the work that I did.

46:19And I loved when he said that, the phrase, I can't help you, meaning you do your part, which is you do your work. and I do my work and then it goes out there and people are entitled to like it or not like it. But I don't know that I need to participate in the process of people liking or disliking it. This is what I did. And I wish I had had that attitude more when I was in my 20s and 30s. I wish I had had a little bit more of that because I was very much, I just want everybody to be happy. and I think it's an improvement to be, well, you know, some people have that early. Like Bob Dylan had that when he was 19.

47:02You know, this is what I'm going to do. If you don't like it, it's your problem, you know. This is how I talk and this is how I sing. It's great, you know, and you're like, how did he have that? How did someone have that? But I think as I get older, I think, eh, that's what I did. And why should you, Christina Ricci, be actively looking for someone who mistakenly doesn't like what you do. Yeah. No, I also find that like I've just I've never really been somebody who think like once I'm done, I sort of never revisit it. And for movies, that's always been totally fine because you finish it, you move on with your life.

47:42Then you have to watch it once and answer some questions and then it's done, done. Who cares? TV is a little bit different because you keep revisiting the same thing. and the press lasts a lot longer as well. But I've always been someone who has a lot of like real life emergencies. Like, you know, just life. You know, there's a drama over here and a family thing there and your house is on fire and all this stuff. And so I've never, I've always been like, I just, I don't have the time or mental capacity or energy to focus on something that I can't change. Yeah. I think that's a healthy way to be.

48:17I pronounce you healthy. Thanks. Amazing. thing. Yeah. And I think my opinion should, I have no, what he's going to say, Sona. I was going to say, if anyone can pronounce someone healthy, it's you. Mentally healthy. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're the perfect guy to do it.

48:34You're perfect for that. I'm trying. I'm trying to evolve. I'm doing the best I can to evolve. I know. And you've been with me a lot, Sona. You work on yourself. Yeah. We've been together a long time and you've seen me try to evolve. Yeah. Yeah. You have evolved. And physically too, much more powerful. I don't know about physically. I think I went too far. You're still kind of at the same place. Okay. All right. Let's change the tone. Shall we change the tone a little bit? I think we should change the tone. Well, Christina, it's been a pleasure for me to get to talk to you again. Thank you. And I was, I was just, I had a very nice, warm feeling when I heard that you were going to be coming in to talk.

49:14Because I had all these memories from that other life. Yeah, that's how I feel also. Yeah. You're like, oh, there's that guy who still can't get his skin still breaking out. Just stop it. That's not what I thought. Come on. I thought, oh, I've known Conan forever. Our careers kind of started at the same time. Yeah. I do have that feeling now more and more if I just see someone that I went to college to that I haven't seen since the 80s. My first overwhelming feeling is, hey, we're still here. Isn't this cool? In a very basic way, we're still here, and you're thriving, and you're doing great work, and I'm just very happy for you.

49:53Thank you. Thank you so much. I was so excited to come and see you. And I do feel like we've been in each other's lives forever, like I said. We have, yeah. Our career started at the same time, basically. Yeah. I mean, my adult career. I had already had a child's career. That's right. That's right. I didn't know you then. But, yeah, I'm thrilled for you. I really am. and thanks for being here. Congratulations on Yellow Jackets. Thank you. And have you started, this is the, which season is this? We have not gotten our pickup yet for season four. Let me handle that. So we're all, everybody's like, I could make one phone call.

50:28Would you? Yeah. It won't do, it'll literally be a phone call where they hang up on me. It'll be to a receptionist and she will hang up on me. And then I'll call back and go, do you know who I am? And they'll go, no, no, we know. We know. You just have really no power and we're going to do it. we're going to do with you. But congratulations and come back. Yeah, I would love to. That sounds great.

50:58I want to come clean about something, which is that recently I got a burner phone. You did. And I love it. I love having a burner phone. Okay. Now you've been intimately a part of the process, David. Basically, Oscars were getting close. And I was noticing that there was so much going on between the podcast and the HBO Max series and the Oscars. Humble brag, busy much, Conan? Oh my God. No, anyway, I think I was getting crazy. Yeah. And I said to you, I just want to have a phone that has, so that I can call Liza. I can call you, David. I can call Jeff. I can call Sweeney, the head writer. Like, I really want to just be able to.

51:39Sona's number's in there, too. And Sona's. Yes, Sona, you're in there as well. OK, thanks. OK, I chose not to call you. No, I did call you from the burner phone. But here's the thing. So we went and we got a plastic flip phone. Yeah, I just called and ordered it. You went and picked it up all on your own. I went and picked it up all on my own. And the young man selling it to me recognized me and was weirded out that I wanted this phone. Well, because, OK, well, I was thinking after picture you're the person I call and I say Conan O 'Brien's coming in with an unlocked flip phone. He needs a like month to month number not connected to his to his regular one.

52:18It sounds like he's like involved in something. Yeah, it's shady. It is shady. The guy acted the kid acted like this is weird. And I just said, give it to me now. I need it now. And walk around. And it's this cute blue little guy. And I like him. I like him and it's crazy. I tried to send a text on him. It's insane. Is it T9 texting? You have to press each button until the letter pops up? Yes. And I mean, you end up, everything's yes or no with my answers. You can't send an elaborate thought because it takes 40 minutes for me. Wait, no bits? You just send a reply with no bits? I can't do bits because it's too, I can't do.

53:05Only text the burner. I can't. Oh my God. So I start walking around with this thing and I'll call people. And for a while, no one was picking up because they just think I'm spam. But then I told them, look, I've got a burner phone and here's the number. And so I ended up not needing to use it as much as I thought because it turns out not that many people were contacting me. I had this whole freak out, which is like, I'm hosting the Oscars. I'll be bombarded with well wishes and advice from top celebrities. I need a burner phone so I can think my thoughts in seclusion. No, not that many people.

53:49So then I was contriving reasons to call people like, hey, David. And you're like, yeah. You called me from your office upstairs. You could have just yelled my name. I called you from upstairs. And I was like, can you come on up here? And you're like, yeah, I can. Good. Good thing I have this burner phone. So I still have it. Yeah. And I love it. I don't have a real reason to use it, but I love the idea of maintain. First of all, it expired automatically after a month. Yeah. And then I got mad. I was like, what are you doing? I want to keep this thing. Yeah. I want to have this phone that only I know about.

54:27And I don't know what I'm going to do, but I know it's going to be crucial at some point soon in my life. I'm going to be in some situation where I need this burner phone or I'm on the run. I'm on the run. I'm on the road. I'm on the go. I'm trying to get off the grid. Can they trace a burner phone? No, the whole point is that they can't. That's why it's a burner phone. Here's one thing. My wife, I found, I only found out about this recently, but she tracks us on our smartphones. All of us. Like me, our kids. They're on the East Coast in college. She's like, getting lunch. I'm like, what? What the hell are you doing?

55:07She's in the dining hall. And then not that long ago, I called her to tell her I'm running late to meet her for sushi. And I call her and go, yeah, I'm just stuck in traffic. I'm just running a little late. And she went, well, you're pretty close. And I'm like, whoa. Good thing I didn't visit the mistress today.

55:33Anyone who calls her the mistress doesn't have a mistress. Anyway, but now this idea is, I don't like her knowing where I am all the time. I don't think I'm up to anything bad. No. But still, I like the idea of maybe I'll just, she'll be like, I'll see what Conan's up to. And she'll call the phone and it will ring in the kitchen. And she'll be like, wait, he left the phone here? And I'm out there somewhere. Yeah. My old Ford Taurus. Yeah. Because that can't be traced either. my 92 Ford Taurus, which I still own. And I got my burner phone. And none of you can get me. Well, David can call me. I'll be able to call you.

56:08And I have your number, too. And Jeff has it. And Jeff has it. Where are you going to go? What are you going to do? I'm just going to go off the grid. But what does that even mean? Does that mean like to a hotel? It means Santa Monica. Oh, okay. All right. Six miles from my home. But you're also very recognizable. So people will like see you and maybe someone who knows Liza will just be like, I just saw you. I have a baseball cap that says not Conan. Okay. That should work. That's a good disguise. That would be good. Who would be the first person to flip on you if Liza pressed them? What do you mean?

56:37All of us. Between the people on your burner phone. All of us. They would all. All of us. They're all allied with my wife. Yeah. Every single person. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't. There's not one person who would take my side over Liza's side. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Yeah. Prefers. We'd call us and we'd be like Santa Monica before she even asked us. This exact location. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's eating here. Having a lobster. Isn't it kind of nice, though, not to like be obsessed with looking at your phone? No, it is good. And I did it because I had just read an article in The New York Times where someone said it helps break your addiction to your phone.

57:15If you have a flip phone and actually recommended this brand of flip phone and that's why I got it. And I do find if you have the security of knowing like here, I can call these key people and find out what's going on. Yeah. I really like not being tempted to look at the text, not being tempted to look at the emails. Can you tell us? Maybe they'll send us a bunch. No, I think that would be immoral. What? You were like set on it, too. It was like a Saturday and you were like, I want this now. I want a flip phone. Yeah. You know what? You know, you know, when you get it when I don't know if everyone's like this.

57:51When I get an idea, I want to. Yeah. Let's get this done, David. Yeah. And then I drove down there. I wanted to go pick it up. I was excited. And I'm still excited. I love this little guy. He's cute. It goes, whoop. Yeah. Oh, that's my other favorite thing is when a conversation's over, I try to be argumentative at the end of the conversation. Just flip. Just so I can flip, so I can snap it shut. So I'll be getting along perfectly well with whoever. And then I'll say, I know you're embezzling from me. And they'll say, wait, what? You're a robber and you know it. And then I just click it shut. Yeah.

58:22Snap. That's cool. It's great. It's such a great way to end a conversation. Flip phones. Bring them back into your life, says Conan. Yeah, I'm actually inspired to get one. Aren't they like making smart flip phones? I don't want a smart phone. I want no email. Oh, they also are making, there's a phone now that unfolds. And you basically unfold it and it becomes like a computer screen. Yeah. I mean, things are getting weird. I say go flip phone. That's what I say. Also, aren't the kids, and I don't know this, but David, you're the closest connection to youth. Aren't they rejecting smartphones in favor of, they're called dumb phones, in favor of dumb phones?

58:59I don't know. Yeah, you asked the wrong. Flip it up. Yeah. What's the slogan? Hey, so are you saying that - Go to Flip Town. Guess what? Accidentally, I did something. My instinct was to do something that all the young people were doing. You flipped it up. Yeah. Well, I don't think that's - You went to Flip Town. No. I flip flopped. You're flipping it. The flip flop isn't good because a flop means it didn't go well. I'm trying to, I came up with a good slogan for it. Just say flip town. Don't give me any of your flip lip. Oh, that's awesome. Anyway, that's the new me. And if you get it, hey, anyone listening right now, if you get what you think is a spam call, pick it up.

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