Danny McBride

24:59We kind of learned that when we were writing Eastbound. I remember when we pitched it, we were so enamored with just Kenny Powers being such a shithead and treating everyone so terribly. And that was making us laugh. And then there became this moment where we were like, what would make him more interesting is if he was actually good at this. And it's not like he's just a joke. Like if he actually had talent and part of the tragedy is he squandered it. I remember that being like a breakthrough because that wasn't part of our initial pitch. It was like, yeah, he flamed out, but the idea that he was really talented and that he had something there that that's part of why he's overstretching so much is that he's like squandered something that was in him that he kind of abused.

25:37And I don't know, it just was a eye-opener that like, you know, you can make jokes with these characters, but if you can kind of like actually give them something real under there to struggle with, it just ends up giving you more room to play. Yeah, and it actually makes the jokes. Yeah, better. Funnier. When I was at The Simpsons, I remembered all I was interested in was coming up with really funny ideas for stories and really funny lines for characters. That's all I cared about and good visuals. And I thought of myself as, I don't really care about story arc and stuff like that. I just want to be the hot gun in the room.

26:12I want to be, you know, I want to be, I want to come up with the stuff that's really going to be great and cutting edge, whatever. And I remember getting talked to about, it was explained to me by Mike Reese and Al Jean. They said, you know, that it's really important to James L. Brooks and to Matt Groening and to Sam Simon. The thing that makes this work is that it's a family and they all love each other. And I remember at the time being whatever I was, 24, thinking, what? That's so lame. Or did they just watch The Goonies? Yeah. I mean, but I remember it. It's pornographic. I remember it. Yeah, it's completely pornographic.

26:55Yeah. I just didn't, I didn't understand that at all, but I went with it. And then later on realized that you don't have a show if Homer doesn't care if Bart dies. Yeah. If he's that level of, yes, Homer does lots of incredibly stupid things, but he does care about his family. if he's a sociopath you don't have a show yep and if and if none of them if they're all sociopaths you don't have a show and that's the kind of stuff that uh my old writing partner greg daniels who has done a million great shows uh office parks and recreation and uh just to name a few but his he was so good at he's funny he can come up with really funny stuff but he also knows that you have to care about these people as people and i think that was one of the revelations of that steve Carell was so brilliant at.

27:46Totally. Which is, he's being such an asshole. He's so misreading the room. He's so not doing his job, but you know that he's a good person at heart. Totally. And that is such a hard thing to do. And I think that that was one of those things that resonates with me when I watch your work is I care about you. I care about the characters you're playing because you've invested them with that, even if they're pretty awful. Pretty terrible. Yeah. I love that. And I love, like, working with actors that get that. You know, like Edie Patterson, who plays my sister on the show. You know, I met her on Vice Principals and instantly saw that with her, that, like, not only can she just deliver insane punchlines, you know, that are completely lunacy, but, like, she has the chops to, like, make you care, too, and to hurt your feelings or to make you kind of want more for her And I think the moment we started messing around with that kind of stuff, it just like that became what a little bit of the pull was with all the comedy.

28:48It's like, how can we surprise people by being so foul? And then weirdly underneath it all, there's like something that might resonate with people. It's a family. And they are they do care about each other. They live in this insane situation. Exactly. They're gangsters. Yeah. They're gangsters who believe that what they're doing is righteous. Yeah. Yeah, that was what was kind of crazy even starting the show is that, you know, I moved down to Charleston, South Carolina with my family about almost like eight years ago. And I wasn't really sure what I was going to write next. And once I was there, I saw a lot of the churches there.

29:23And I was like on every other radio station is like a religious station. And, you know, I went to church when I was a kid. My family was pretty religious. And it just got me thinking, like, what is church like now? And so I started like kind of doing research on these mega churches and it just kind of instantly seemed like it was something that would be in one of our worlds. Like the idea of like these people kind of seeing themselves as a celebrity and, and being, you know, big shots and, and just the idea of saying one thing, meaning another, it just felt like it was right for what we wanted to do.

29:50but then I would look at stuff that tackles religion and I always kind of never I couldn't think of anything that I really liked that had done that we're gonna I was like oh it's you know there's something about it that is usually too cynical or it's just bashing on people's faith and I don't know it just didn't seem like it was uh like it was something that I wanted to do and so yeah we started writing that show sort of like one of our mantras was like you know yeah these guys believe and the butt of the joke is never what their belief is it's just them they're the butt of the joke. Their hypocrisy is what's funny and not like what they believe in.

30:22And, and everybody on board the show got down with that. They were all that, that was sort of like what everyone kind of followed. And it'd be interesting because you oftentimes would see stuff, people would come with things, whether it's production design or anything that might push things too much. Like, oh, I think the joke here is that it's Jesus. And maybe that's like, not where we should get the joke from. It should get the thought process behind someone, you know, is more funny than just cheap shots, I guess. Yeah, you don't want to be punching down. You don't be making fun of the faith.

30:48You want to be looking at these people, which it is a family. They live on this ridiculous compound. You know, I mean, I'm a big Walton Goggins fan, and I'm curious how you two came together. I know you were on Vice Principals. principles. Yeah. Walton, you know, I had seen Walton in The Shield and Walton came in and read for Eastbound. It was the, I think it was the third season and we ended up casting Sudeikis in that role. He was like Kenny Power's best friend, but I mean, I always, I mean, it was just, you know, not because Walton didn't do a good job reading, but it was just like, I think we already had our mindset on Sudeikis and, but Walton just stuck in my brain at forever after that, when he came in.

31:32I was like, God damn, that guy was so funny and so unexpected. And I had bumped into him a few other times through the years. And then when I wrote Vice Principals, he just came to my mind that I would like to spend some time with him. And I felt like this was a side that he hadn't really shown people. And in all of his work, there's a comedic undertone to all of it. He's just naturally funny. And so, yeah, it was just kind of awesome. I sent him that script, the pilot and he called me back later on that afternoon and was just like doing the lee russell voice which is the character he played by his principles yeah it was like this is gonna be fun he was here he did the podcast and you remember this he came and he was i think he was flying back and forth a lot uh to thailand for white lotus oh yeah at the time and um so he was tired I came in and his people said, uh, Walton just needs to sleep for 25 minutes and then he'll be okay to do the podcast.

32:31So he was in that room that I just saw you in and there's a couch there and he just lay down like a vampire. And like put his hands over his chest and instantly went out and slept for exactly 25 minutes. It was back. And then came and then they like reactivated the, you know, reactivate Goggins. And he like sat up and he came. He came in and he was great in the podcast and then probably said, now I need 17 minutes. There's something I've always thought about in comedy, which is one of my favorite characters, I always go back to him all the time, is Peter Sellers, Inspector Clouseau and the Pink Panther movies.

33:11And those movies were a huge deal to me because my dad would take me to see those films. And I never saw my dad laugh that hard. And I would be laughing, but also notice clocking my dad laughing so hard. And I thought they were fantastic. So I introduced him to my son and we watch these movies and it took me a long time to realize what makes it work is that Clouseau, he is deadly serious. Totally. Yeah. We never, weirdly, we never approach any of it like it is a comedy. Like we, even when we talk to the, you know, the production designers and all this stuff, we, we, we approach it as if it's like so serious.

33:45And then that just makes it so much funnier. I remember even when we sold Eastbound, you know, they were trying to talk to us about shooting it all digitally and everything. And for us, it was like, no, we, we like fought really hard to shoot on like super 16. And then even the other seasons were on 35 millimeter film. And it was like, there was no real reason to, to do that. But for us, it was all part of the aesthetic of like, we can't treat this. Like it's just something cheap, you know, it needs to be approached as if it has scope and grandeur. And then all of these jokes and all this ridiculousness will, will play then, you know, you're shooting it.

34:17You want to, it's like, you, you have to go in with the intent that we're making i'm david lean and i'm making lawrence of arabia that's it you know wait a minute what's the topic again don't worry about that that's it and i think that that comes through it's funny how um you talk about the way people want things shot i've heard that some some producers some executives want things to be bright and colorful if it's a comedy they actually want it to be brighter because they want to let you know that it's a comedy. Yeah. As opposed to trusting that you'll figure out that what's happening is very funny.

34:54Yeah. And more so if some, I think if things are a little dark or if there's a grayness to it. It's so true. I remember us hearing that, that like, you know, oh, you need to get a comedy DP. And we were just like, what the hell is that? You know? And to me, it was like, no, it seems like, you know, we don't want to play into any of this stuff. There's not like a way to shoot it. And, you know, yeah, for us, that always, it felt like if you're filming something, You should use all the tools that come with filming something. You should be able to know when to make it dark or when to make it light.

35:22You should know when to make it beautiful or when to make it ominous and scary. And why would you strip all of those things away just to kind of light something bland so that the jokes play better? It felt like it was missing out on what the advantages are of doing something filmed. So I'm curious. You don't live here. You don't live here. We're in Los Angeles right now. In your office. No, I've never lived here. There was a year. There was a year where you were going through a little bit of a rough patch. Okay? 2022. I remember. You lived here. You found me in the bottom of the pool that you took out.

36:02When we bought this podcast studio, there was a little pool out there, and the first thing I said was, that pool goes. And so does that guy. Yeah, if you have to jackhammer it. Yeah, exactly. And that guy, McBride, get him out of here. But yeah, I just, it's interesting because I know there are people I really admire. Zach Galifianakis is another one who, he doesn't live here in LA and he's very resolute about, no, I'm gonna live with my people, my life. It's not a rejection of LA. It's just, no, I'll do the work here, but I want to go, in your case, it's Charleston, South Carolina. Yeah. Which is, by the way, I've been there several times and I'm a history buff.

36:46I was telling you before we started the podcast that I've been there and taken the tours and absolutely, I think it'd be a dream to live there. It's insane. You know, I'd never even been there until we shot Vice Principals and really just fell in love with the place. And I had small kids at the time. They're still small. They'll never grow. I won't let them. You know, it helps if you feed them. We'll see. But my wife was from Los Angeles. I loved living out here. I mean, I was here for almost 20 years and, you know, I loved it here. But I definitely kind of saw that my kids, if I kept them here, it wasn't like they would have a bad life.

37:22But it was like there would just be elements of my life that I feel like they wouldn't be able to experience. Like there was something free about being able to get on your bike and just like cruise through your neighborhood and stay gone until the sun went down. And I knew like when we're living up on Mulholland, I wasn't exactly trusting my six-year-old son to go on a bike and just come back when the sun comes down. Go down Mohoen at 60 miles an hour. Unable to stop. Nothing bad ever happened on Mohoen. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow, there's the old Manson house. Oh, no. But I just wanted them to have a little taste of that.

37:58When we went to shoot Vice Principals there, I was seeing it in real time. They were getting it. They were having more independence than I had ever had with them here. They were able to hang out with friends, and it wasn't like we were overseeing it or coordinating a play date. It was just kind of naturally happening. And so I just kind of wanted that. I thought it was, it'd be cool for them. And, um, yeah. And so that kind of motivated us moving there. And then luckily a lot of the guys I work with, they all were kind of at the same point in their lives where they had young kids and were kind of a little like helpless about how to raise kids here that everyone had come from small towns.

38:30And so it was, uh, an adjustment and everyone just kind of decided to go down together. It was like, I think we went down there. Wait, so you live in like a community with your friends. Yeah. Some people call that a cult. Yeah. Yeah. We allow others in, you know, No, there is no, but as I, we moved there with like, honestly, like Jody Hill, David Green, he's got a place there. Like, uh, yeah, the John Couture, Jeff Frally, all these other writers from the show. We all moved there the same summer and, uh, set up shop and yeah, it's been almost eight years now. That's amazing. Yeah. It's been a lot of fun.

38:59We didn't have to make new friends. We were able just to keep the ones that we've always known. You can't, at a certain point, you can't make new friends. It's too much effort. Which is great for this podcast and its title. Yeah. have I really made friends with any of them? No, that's true. I reject, the minute the podcast is over, I tell him, get out of here. Yeah. I won't see you again. It's all a scam. You know, I have to ask you about working with John Goodman because he's one of my favorite people. I mean, I'm just thinking of all of the iconic roles he's played. So much great work with the Coen brothers.

39:40and he was the first guest on my late night show. Oh, wow. September 13th, 1993. And I ran into him recently on an elevator. I hadn't seen him in years. I was like, hello, John. He was like, hello. And I said, remember, you're my first guest. And he said, yes, you, I believe, you know, the way he can talk, he's very serious. He said, George went canceled. So I was your second choice. And that was not the case. He was misremembering. He remembered that. But the problem is he misremembered it. Yeah, he misremembered it, which was, no, he was our first choice. And we wanted someone who we knew would be really fun and friendly and go along with all the weird stuff we wanted to do.

40:24And that we put George Wendt in the audience to challenge him to leg wrestling. And that was just to show people how weird our show was going to be. We wanted to do that right off the bat. So that was always the plan. And now somehow he's got it switched in his mind that, and I remember it, then he got off the elevator and I never got a chance to straighten him out that like, no, no, no, you were the first choice. George Wendt was the plant in the audience, but it's lost to time now. You know, and maybe it's good for him, but he, I feel like he underestimates how much influence and how great he is.

40:57You know, I would like be surprised when, you know, I would sense that he was nervous or worried that he wasn't doing good. Like, are you kidding me? It's like. You're John Goodwin. Blowing everyone here out of the water. Yeah, yeah. He's incredible. I mean, I've always loved him. And he was in TV when TV wasn't really that cool. And he's on your TV, and then he still can go do the Coen brothers. And everything is so funny. And he's lasted for so long. And he still can make you laugh and can still do stuff that's challenging. I mean, I never thought in a million years we would get him on this show.

41:32It was completely like a lark. Also, because he's such a good actor, his menace on the gemstones, his sense of purpose and drive, and he's built this thing, and you get the sense that he really has, and that it comes from something real. Yeah, totally. And you need a real actor to do that. You do, and if we wouldn't have had someone like him, I don't think the show would have worked. I think you needed that legitimacy, even for us. I think I could have done it. There was thoughts that maybe you could. Yeah, you could have done it. No, I... George went. No, no. George went for sure. No, in all fairness, I think, yeah, you've got a Goodman or a Conan.

42:20Often brought up at the same time, yeah. Often in the same sentence. Coen brothers just don't have my number. They don't know how to get a hold of me. Yeah, that's the problem. I'm very hard to get a hold of. Yeah, really. I have a flip phone. Not everyone has the number. That's what it is. You said that you like these guys, these characters. They see themselves as something they are not, which is, I think, also, it's part of the same line of what we've been talking about. But people who don't see themselves as what they really are, but their belief in themselves is genuine. Their egos are just unchecked.

43:00Yeah, they I just feel like that, you know, when you want to make the character the butt of the joke, that's like the most I don't know. That's like the richest ground of just, you know, the tragedy of like seeing someone telegraphing how they want you to see them and then knowing that they're not that. It just always makes me laugh. So you're in South Carolina now. Is it weird to come into L.A. and like, OK, now I'm driving around the 405 freeway and I'm going to do press and things like that? You're I mean, it's funny. I mean, I would I lived here 20 years, drive everywhere. And then instantly I feel like I'm an old person who's never been around a moving car before.

43:32It's like, there's so many cars. Everything's so fast. You do slow down. I mean, everything is so slow there that you, it does. It kind of, I'm like, wow, it's wild that I was used to this pace. It's nuts. One of the things I love about Charleston is when you go downtown, they have the old gas lamps. It's like you've gone back in time. You know, they've done a really good job of preserving. And so I would think it's about as not L.A. as you can get to me. is gas lanterns in the streets. Do you know what I mean? Burning in the middle of the day, just burning propane. Yeah, yeah. Someone over there has a butter churn.

44:10So I'm curious, like when something like Gemstones is done, you've wrapped it and you're going to unveil this new season. Are you on to the next thing already? Are you? You know, after I leave here, I go sound mix the very last episode. So after today, I will be officially unemployed. I'm done. I don't, I mean, I have ideas what I want to do, but I really just kind of want to just chill out for a little bit and catch a breath. I mean, I've been on Gemstones full time now for like seven years. I mean, it doesn't seem like that because there was COVID and there was a strike, but it's, I'm so monogamous when I get on something like this.

44:43I like live and breathe it. I mean, when we're not in between seasons, I'm literally just like reading the Bible, watching sermons, just trying to find material and find inspiration. And so I think after a while, you kind of do have to just shut it off because even in my head, if I were to think of ideas now, they all would feel similar to gemstones because my brain is so trained on finding humor and finding comedy that like fits that mold. So I think in a way you kind of have to just like let it go and kind of stop thinking about it for a while and then kind of. OK, so what do you do to relax?

45:15What are your what are your fun things? What's your happy place? I need to get hobbies. I don't have hobbies. unfortunately i've tried a few different ones in charleston and none of them are really what did you try when i first got there i was like maybe i'm gonna be somebody who's like into grilling i'll be into big green eggs and like and like learning how to like master the big green egg and i had that for a while and then i was like i'm gonna have a heart attack with all these fucking steaks no one's eating and like trying to dial the temperature and just right it's like my wife's like yeah big deal you kept it at 250 degrees for 12 hours like you've mastered it But this pork, it falls right on.

45:53My heart feels tight. My chest. I got a little, you know, I have a dock, and so I got a Boston Whale where everybody in that area is out of the water. You got to have a boat, right? Well, I thought I did, and then I realized I'm not a boat person. I don't like owning it. I would be responsible for everybody's safety. I would get out there, and I would just have the worst time because I'm just sort of so worried that I'm going to kill someone. And I was like, this feels like someone else should be driving this thing. I should be able just to drink and let the wind blow my hair back. And it's also boats are so much maintenance.

46:28It's like you finish going out and everyone gets to go home. And then you've got to sit around for like an hour and a half hosing the fucking thing down and like flushing the engine out. I'm like, I don't need new chores. I don't like this. So I like let the boat rot for like an hour and a half, like a year and a half at the end of my dock. I would just look at it and just it'd make me feel terrible. So I'm like, I have no desire to use that thing I've spent money on. And I would watch it fill with rainwater and particles grow on it. It was just a constant reminder of like, you know, you don't have hobbies.

46:59You don't even like going out on boats. So I sold that and got rid of that. And yeah, now that's what I'll do. I'll try to find what the next. I love that you have a camouflage shirt. And anyone who sees this on video, you're wearing a total camouflage hunting shirt. but I doubt you need it. I doubt that you do anything that requires you to wear a camouflage. I want to, but yeah, I don't have it in me. Even honestly, even fishing to an extent, like everyone fishes down there. It's like, all right, I'll get into fishing. We have this koi pond in our front yard and there was like, we inherited it when I bought the place, like koi fish there.

47:35And then this like fucking heron, this bird started coming every day, would be on our roof, would come down and it would pick up the koi fish, but the koi fish were too big for it to eat. So they would just drop them on the, on the, leave them on the side of the ground. I would come home and there would always be dead fish like leading up there. And I, uh, I, birds just laughing at you. I started a straight up war with this bird where it was, it was the same one would come every day. And my wife and I had all these tricks. Like I had like left my son's and again, I like left my son's like remote control car down there.

48:06And then every time I'd see it, I would turn the car on to chase it away. And then that evolved into just like Nerf guns or like that thing would come and I would just like run out there, like lighting it up. And it knew who I was. I think you found your hobby. You have a hobby. Yeah, it's fighting birds, saving koi fish. Fighting birds without hurting them. Did you win? Did you get rid of it? Well, you know what was funny? It's like one day I went out there and I did, I lit that bird up. I made full contact with that thing. It flew over the hedge and I went back in the house, like got him. The bird flew around to the back of the house and started banging on the window and shit all over the back of my deck.

48:44It was like, oh, he knew. He knew. Of course he knew. Yeah. Cut to the bird at a gun store. Yeah, he's going to even score. Yeah, they bring a Nerf gun, you bring a real gun. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think protecting those fish, there was a few times where I saved a few where I got home and the fish was still flopping on the ground and I saw the scared look in its eye. I put it back in the water. I was like, I can never fish now. I've ruined it for myself. I'm determined now to go. I'm going to go to Charleston, South Carolina, and hang out and get the word out that I'm ready to hang with Danny McBride.

49:18Yeah. But then it's just going to be really fun that you don't reach out to me. And I know that you're just like six miles away. No, I'll reach out to you. But what would we do? Well, there's a few good bars down the street from my house. We'd probably ride around in golf carts. Maybe we'd go on a ghost tour. I would love that. You know, the area where I live, of people cruise around on golf carts and it's uh there's no hotels or anything out there it gets pretty dark after night and like i love to just like put the kids in the golf cart and i literally just like play the soundtrack to the shining and turn the lights and just cruise around the island it is it is more frightening than what you could imagine yeah so so how are they doing these kids I worry about therapy.

50:06You said they haven't really grown much and they're terrified all the time. I remember when we shot land of the lost here in Los Angeles, we were, that's like one of the only movies I ever worked on that shot on a back lot. That was what I thought all of Hollywood would be. It would be like, you'd be on a, on a, you know, sure. The studio and every movie would be shooting there. I think we were the only movie that was shooting in town that time on the universal lot. And we would have all these late nights and Will Ferrell and Yorma and I would get in golf carts at the like late at night on like, you know, on these night shoots.

50:41And we would drive through Universal Studios when it was closed down and we would pull up in front of the psycho house. And one by one, you'd have to go up by yourself and knock on the door. And it seems so silly. It was scary as shit.

51:01Oh my God. That does sound scary. It was, it was. You would freak yourself out. There was no way after you knocked that you would not run back to the golf cart where everybody was. And then quickly make some jokes like it wasn't that scary. Don't they have the mom in the window? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they have her like a mannequin. Yes. Not real. Oh. That might be, I think it's a working actress. Oh, okay. She's just sitting there. 24-7. It's so creepy. Yeah. She was on a sit, She was on like Silver Spoons. And now that's what she does. This has been an absolute blast. Absolute blast. You've been on our, how do we get, how do we get this man?

51:39He's never in LA. Just, I'm so happy that you were able to get yourself in here and met you in 2006 and right away was an instant fan. Like, and then everything just has, from a distance, I've just watched everything blow up since for you in all the best ways. And I'm really happy. And Righteous Gemstones is hilarious and great. And this is the final season? This is the final season. Wrapped it up this season. Yep. I think it's our best one yet. I know everyone has to say that to get people to tune in. But I really do think that. Yeah. Well, I am so happy for you. And I look forward to the day that I intrude on you in South Carolina.

52:21Please come down. I'll give you the real tour. Seriously, I mean, I'm a huge, I've been to Fort Sumter. I'm a real nerd. I've toured the, I know a little bit too much about, I've gone to the South and I've told people this. I took my wife on, when we were newly married, I took her on a drive through Georgia to look at Civil War landmarks and the marriage almost ended there. uh so so uh anyway um thank you so much for being here seriously thank you and uh get a hobby i'll try to

53:07a number of episodes ago we talked about how you lost your beloved and i think long term long-term leather jacket? What? Weren't you in a long-term relationship with this leather jacket? I bought it and I wore it a lot. Aren't you burying the lead, which is she lost her house? She lost her house and her leather jacket was in the house. This is the first I've heard of that. Okay, yeah. You're a real sensitive guy. My house burned down. You lost your home in the Altadena fire. Yes. And you are still living, you're living with your parents? Yes. Okay, well, we won't get into that too much. There's some stress there probably.

53:43It's okay. It's all good. I love your mom I love your dad Okay But your mom can be a bit much Oh wow Oh We're gonna clip it And show her Quoting you Yeah what I love her I don't know What did you say What did you say I love her Okay And I was quoting you And you said she You know You and your mom clash sometimes We do We clash You're too strong personalities Because you love each other very much I adore my mom But we have A generational divide And a A A A cultural divide There you go So anyway House burns down Yes And among the things you lost was the leather jacket you've been wearing since the day I met you.

54:18Yeah. You've had that jacket forever. I have. And sometimes I would kid you about the jacket because sometimes. You would wear it every day. You wouldn't mix it up too much. Okay. I loved that jacket. Yeah, and I'm sorry it went. And what did I do? What did I do? I forget. Oh my God. I forget what I did. Oh my God. Okay, then I guess we have nothing else to talk about. Oh, okay. Well, okay, so it's still they still make this jacket and i found it and you very generously offered to buy me a new one so i went with your credit card which i have and i i know bought a new jacket for myself i got an alert that this uh they were very suspicious of you using my card okay yeah and then uh but then i realized what i did was i just bought you like ammo for me yes and that's not that i don't know why he did it in the first place.

55:10I, there was a jacket I made fun of and then it was lost in this tragic fire and I needed the jacket replaced immediately so I could make fun of the jacket. I know. So I could make fun of the jacket again. That's so ironic because you're sitting here in a leather jacket. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I'm sitting with Mad Max and the Red Baron right now. Yeah. This is amazing. Oh, no problem is not that it's a leather jacket. I love leather jackets. It's just that she only wore one jacket and I swear to God you wore it to everything. I did wear it to, it fit me like a glove. It was like stretched in. When your kids were christened in that beautiful church and I was the godfather and it was a beautiful ceremony.

55:45I'm wearing a suit. Liza's wearing a dress. People are wearing robes. You're there wearing Dr. Zayas's jacket from. Okay. Come on. It's so cool. Don't I look cool in it though? No one looks cool who says, don't I look cool? Yes, I do though. I look so cool in it. It's a great jacket and I'm happy. And you know what? I'm happy that you got this back. Yeah, me too. I am too. It really felt good. A lot of the things that we lost, we've been trying to find versions of it. There is one thing in particular. Isn't there that you guys lost? A poster? What is it? A cell. An animation cell from King of the Hill.

56:21Oh. That Tack loved. And so the first time I've ever really done this, I asked Greg Daniels. My old writing partner and good friend. And who I've gotten to know really well over the last few years. And not few years, but a very long time I've been working for you. And I asked him, I said, do you have any or know where I could get one? And he gave Tack the exact one that he lost. And it felt like it was just coming back from the dead. Greg, you're a mensch. He's a really good guy. It was really nice. Shout out to Greg Daniels. Yes. That's so nice. So slowly you're going to rebuild your life by getting back some of the objects.

56:58I lost$100 ,000. That's a lie. You're just lying now. And guess what? It had real sentimental value. It was all special bills. I remember you, that paper bag of$100 ,000 meant so much to you. It was so special to me. Yeah. And I really wish I had it again. Well, I guess there's one thing we can do. What are you going to do? Get some Monopoly boards. Get a lot of fake money and put it together. No, but I bet you there are a bunch of things we could go through and get back. I hope so. I mean, it does feel like you're bringing things back from the dead, which is cool. This jacket meant a lot. I loved this jacket, and I really thank you for doing it.

57:42Although I do know you're just doing it so you can keep the riff going. No, that's part of the reason I did it, but there's 10 % of it. 90 % was keep the riff going so I can continue to bash away at you. And then there's 10%, which is I love you and I want you to be happy. That's very nice. Thank you. But 90 % total, you know, guns blazing. I know. Gotta get you. I know, I know. Make you feel bad. Sure, I know, I know. Well, so you had a happy ending. Yeah. And did you, you didn't lose anything in the fire, did you? I'm sorry to say I didn't. It is weird. There's a survivor's guilt. Of course there is.

58:19I'm telling you, there is. There is totally a survivor's guilt in L.A. right now. I mean, I've talked about this, but I've been very open about the fact that fire got really close to my house and filled it with smoke, and I'm still not back in it. We've been out since the fire. So it's been months now since I've lived in my house. And it all has to get cleaned out and everything. But you can't, there's nothing. I'm just still, I'm grateful. I'm very grateful that my house still exists. And if I ever catch myself saying to anybody, my sneakers, my Brooks sneakers got a little, they have good art support for when I run in.

58:57Well, they got a little smoky. and so they have to be wiped off because they got smoky. And then you're probably standing next to somebody who lost their house. I know, yeah. So keep my mouth shut. You lost your house. You can't go back to your house. That's why I feel like I have guilt all around, survivor's guilt all around. I feel like I want to sleep in a tent in my front yard. You should. No, that's going too far. You should. I can't. And you should fill it with smoke. toxic smoke well i'm glad i'm glad that you we got that back and we'll get other things back thank you thank you peace out tupac conan o 'brien needs a friend with conan o 'brien sona mufsessian and matt gorley produced by me matt gorley executive produced by adam sax jeff ross and nick leo theme song by the white stripes incidental music by jimmy vivino take it away jimmy

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