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Podcast Notes: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Ed Sheeran Live from the SiriusXM Garage
Episode Overview In this engaging episode of "Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend," Conan meets with singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran in front of a live audience at the SiriusXM Garage. The discussion revolves around Ed's inspirations for his music, his experiences in the industry, and some light-hearted banter about their lives and careers.
Key Themes
- Friendship and Connection: Conan expresses his quest for genuine friendships beyond his celebrity guests, making the podcast a platform for deeper connections.
- Creative Process: Ed Sheeran discusses the inspirations behind his new album, *Autumn Variations*, and the unique aspects of his songwriting journey.
- Humor and Storytelling: The episode incorporates Conan's signature humor, with playful exchanges and entertaining anecdotes.
Important Moments
Introduction
- Conan introduces the episode with light humor, mentioning the innovative products from Samsung, who sponsors the podcast.
- Ed Sheeran humorously admits he feels "wank" about being Conan's friend, setting a relaxed tone.
Ed Sheeran's Experiences and Career
- Musical Influences: Ed talks about his music heroes and how they inspire his work. He shares a humorous story about performing barefoot, connecting it to his artistic journey.
- Writing Process: Ed explains how his recent experiences, including personal losses and challenges, influenced his songwriting for *Subtract* and *Autumn Variations*.
- Candid Reflections: He discusses the evolution of his career from a young musician in London to a globally recognized artist, emphasizing the importance of hard work and perseverance.
Audience Interaction
- Conan engages with the audience, asking where they traveled from, creating an interactive atmosphere.
- Audience members ask questions, including favorite films and moments with comedic legends like Norm MacDonald.
Funny Anecdotes
- Conan shares humorous personal stories, including his awkward attempts to fit into social circles and the absurdity of his childhood dreams.
- Ed and Conan exchange stories about their interactions with celebrities and the humorous situations that arise.
Ed's New Album
- Ed discusses the concept of his album *Autumn Variations*, inspired by personal experiences and the changing seasons.
- He emphasizes a more hopeful tone in this album compared to the darker themes of *Subtract*.
Key Takeaways
- Creative Resilience: Ed showcases how personal challenges can fuel creativity and lead to profound musical insights.
- The Power of Humor: Conan's light-hearted approach to serious topics provides a comforting and entertaining environment.
- Authentic Connections: The episode highlights the importance of genuine connections in both personal and professional realms.
Conclusion This episode of "Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend" not only entertains with laughter and anecdotes but also inspires listeners with themes of resilience, creativity, and the search for authentic connections. Ed Sheeran's candidness and Conan's humor create a dynamic and engaging conversation that resonates with audiences.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This special live recorded episode of Conor Brian needs a friend is brought to you by Samsung. Samsung keeps innovating. They really do. They're on the ball. They're always doing new things. Yes, yes. I can't even keep up. Well, you can never keep up, but I'm very good at keeping up, and I can't keep up with Samsung. Last year, Samsung launched the Gaming Hub. No console required. Oh, that's nice. I don't know if you remember this, Bley, but you and I did a clueless gamer with this technology. Of course I remember. Well, I didn't know you. What do you mean? You have such an exciting life. That's not true at all.
0:32You travel the world. You're like a Bond villain. No, playing on the Samsung TV without a console was one of the highlights of my year last year. It was great. It was fantastic. We had a very good time. Super fun. Samsung has now integrated the gaming hub into the Samsung Freestyle. Streamed thousands of games all on the Freestyle second-gen portable projector from Samsung. It's pretty cool, right? It is really cool. You know, I got to say, the crazy thing is it automatically adjusts to the surface that's being projected on. Yep. And I'm not kidding. This is wild. You can like put it on the floor and it will automatically adjust the angle.
1:05So when you're staring at the wall or the projector, it is still the aspect. That's good. No, last night I watched Citizen Kane projected on my bare chest. And guess what? It's a better movie that way. I don't wait. You projected it and you looked in the mirror and you watched it that way? I was using x-ray specs. It was so weird. I saw such a different, it's a totally different movie that way. Okay. Ends happily. Yeah, but it adjusts up to a hundred inches. Yeah. which is very good for your chest. Just up to 100 inches. I wouldn't touch that line with a 10-foot pole. Okay. All right. Anyway, where was that in high school?
1:40Hey. Oh, my God. It's a great invention. Samsung, they're always innovating. Oh, you have more to say? Well, the other thing I want to say is everyone in the live audience for this show got to see the Freestyle 2nd Gen portable projector in action. Very cool. Which is incredibly cool. Very cool. I like it. So Oprah gives people things, but we let them see how it works, and then we tell them to go out and buy it. That's right. Fantastic. We just show them something cool. Yet another way that I'm different from Oprah. Hey! No, it is very cool, though. Check it out. Stream thousands of games, no console required.
2:08Now on the Freestyle 2nd Gen with Gaming Hub on Samsung. Streaming games on Samsung Gaming Hub requires a high-speed internet connection, additional gaming service subscription, and compatible controller required.
2:22Well, I sort of wanted to normalize the word wank in America because it's, like, not used that much. So, hi, my name is Ed Sheeran. and I feel wank about being Conan O 'Brien.
2:56Hey everybody, how are you? Yeah. This is exciting. What a great crowd. Thank you for being here. This is very nice of you. Yeah. Well, good night, everybody.
3:10The easily pleased crowd. When a crowd's as happy to see you go as they are to see you show up, that's a bad sign. Did you just mention, Blay, that there is going to be drinks for the crowd after the show? That's right. Why not drinks before and during the show? What's wrong with that? Next time. Next time. We're always learning. And once again, they've added another row. That's true. First time we did this here at the SiriusXM Garage, it was just this audience here. Then I said, I think we could have more. That's right. So they added one row. I said, I think it could be more. They added one more row.
3:48None of you would be here were it not for me. Yeah, that's true. That's absolutely true. None of you would be here. Hi, how are you? I love your hair and the... Hi, how are you? Hi. I was bullied. Anyway. Oh, and look at that. That's a late night with Conan O 'Brien shirt. Those are made of asbestos. Be careful. Those are not... Yeah, we just took old ER shirts and Friends shirts and spray-painted them. Have you ever worn it in the rain? They catch fire. True story, yeah. Don't wear it. That stuff is shit. Not that one. That one's cool. No, it's very nice to be here. We have a great show. We have such a good show.
4:29Very excited. Very good show. Very good show tonight. I like that you paused for a long time before you brought me out as if it was a big mystery. Yeah. You went in now, it's time to bring out. And there was this long, weird pause. And I thought you had gas or something. You were just, there was this long like, who could it be? Everyone here knows. Well, yeah, we want the anticipation of people frothing at the mouth. I shouldn't have said frothing at the mouth. But, you know, the anticipation high. Yeah, what you described as botulism. Sorry. Which a lot of Conan fans have, by the way. Thank you for coming so far.
4:59I'm just going to assume you all came from a really great distance. They wouldn't come from very... Where'd you come from? Oh, Long Beach. Come on, I was hoping you'd say like Guam. We took 11 planes. And a submarine. And then a hovercraft. No, but you came from Long Beach. Well, that's... What is that? That's about 35 minutes. Wow. Diehard fans I have. The Guam of California. Yeah, it is the Guam of California. It really is. Well, thank you. What's your name? Hi. Hi, Ty. It's nice to meet you. Yeah, how are you? And do you have your friends with you here? Are you just here by... Great. Oh, great.
5:36So you all came together from Long Beach. Who really came from a great distance? Who came from far, far away? Yes. Riverside. Riverside. So that would be like 39 minutes. we're seeing here the depth and the intensity of Conan fandom people look oh I don't even want to I see you raising your hand and I don't even want to know oh Northwest Hollywood yes go ahead my apartment building is attached to this no your apartment building is attached you literally slid down a pole like a fireman to get here and you look you're wearing pajamas you were you were asleep 11 minutes ago and you're like i don't want to see conan but i guess i'll see his guest right down into his seat do you come see a lot of serious shows this is your first one the first one that enticed you out of your apartment that's 18 inches from where i'm standing right now you should have a party for all of us after the show.
6:42We should all go back to your apartment. What's that? Will I come? No, I will not. I've got to get back to Riverside because that's also where I live. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how good a crowd you are. If you're a really good crowd, who knows? Stop by. Although when a man my age who's married with grown children shows up at a party, it can be misunderstood. It can come across as a little creepy. What's he doing here? He just invited himself. You know, I've talked for a long time, and really I should invite out the true stars of the show. I'm just kidding. But I do love them, and together I think we make quite a team.
7:23I'm going to bring them out right now. Sonam Obsessian and Mr. Matt Gorley. Let's get them out here. Yay. Yay. Hey, see? I'm going to announce this is something that's very difficult to do in my business. Switch from this mic to that mic. It's a very difficult procedure. But when you're dealing with a professional, it can be quite easily done.
7:49I was warming up the crowd, and it turns out there might be a party happening after the show. All right. Inches from where we're sitting right now, Sona and Matt. Okay. Yeah, and Sona likes to party. I do. You know what? Earlier, I was in the bathroom with a bunch of these guys, and I leaned up on the sink, and it was wet. and my butt is completely wet right now. And so when I came in, I was - Wait a minute, that's the seat where our guest is going to sit. Yes, our guest is going to sit in ass sink water. What a crappy show we have. It's okay, it's SpongeBob SquarePants. Okay, good, yeah. Our first guest, SpongeBob, will immediately take care of the problem.
8:30Yeah. With his spongy ass. Why were you hanging out in the bathroom with the crowd beforehand? What kind of show business is this? I don't know. She was in the bathroom of that lady's apartment. Yeah, I see. I went to her house. Was everyone in this crowd hanging out in that woman's room? Ma 'am? Miss? What is ma 'am? I call her ma 'am. Like I'm in a 1930s Oklahoma vaudeville sketch. What is your name, young lady? Emily. All right. Emily's having a party in her apartment above the Sirius XM afterwards. And, Sonia, you'll probably go. You'll go to anything. Why did you say it like that? You're totally...
9:02Because you will, if you find out that the snacks and the drinks are free, you're there. Actually, that is true. I like to be included. I love how you immediately, every time I do this with Sona, she'll be like, what? What do you mean? And I'll restate the thing I just said and she'll go, that's true. Yeah. You're right. If there is free food and free drinks, I'll be there. But also, I just like to be included. I like when people invite me to things. That's nice. Well, she didn't invite you yet, but she invited most of the crowd. Oh, she's doing a thing with her hands, so I'm going to do it. Well, listen, I found out from the crowd because I always like to find out people really came from all over the globe.
9:37And when I say globe, if it was a globe that was shrunk down to the size of roughly a 15-mile radius of Los Angeles. Yeah. A globe that size. But we have people from Riverside here. Oh, Riverside is not close. Yeah, no. You came all the way from Altadena. Okay, Conan, it's not... They don't even use American currency there. I swear to God, it's all Armenian currency. Armenian? Yeah. Where people are wooing Altadena. That's good. I wasn't saying anything bad about it. I was just saying it's amazing. It's incredible that you live in Altadena. Why is it Armenian currency? I don't know. I don't know, because there are a lot of your family there.
10:14You have... Can you name what the Armenian currency is? Yeah, the jub-jub-jub-jub-jub. Okay. What is it? The did-om. The what? The did-om. Yeah, what? It's the did-om. Did-om. We went together, remember? I know. Right. I don't see you throwing a lot of did-ob around. What do you mean? I wouldn't throw it. You threw it around when we were there. I didn't pay for anything. That's true. You don't pay for things. I was cool with going with you. Yeah. I pay for everything. It's very true. Anyway, people from all over Los Angeles are here. That's exciting. It's very cool. And I'm very thrilled that they're all here.
10:51And Matt, I'm excited about the show. Yeah, me too. We have a terrific show today. We're going to have a very good time. And how are you? I didn't get to really chat with you yet. I'm good. I'm good. Sona and I got here way too early, so we went over to the 99 cent store across the street to see if everything actually is 99 cents. We did do that, though. Yeah. You know what? When Matt said it, I didn't think. You're way too cool to do that. No, I thought, of course you did that. No one here is like, what? The Fonz went to the 99 cent store? But anyway, so what did you find out? That hardly anything is priced at 99 cents.
11:25A lot of it has gone up to$1.19. Yeah. But there's still a few items that are still 99 cents. That's no America I want to live in. If you're calling it a 99 cent store, then I think it should cost 99 cents or below. Once it's$1.19, I think I want to move to a foreign land like Altadena. You know, someplace far away where I'm protected. All right. You won't be protected there. I will. Your family loves me. I mean, yeah, against their better judgment. I guess they do. After everything you've said about my dad's mustache, he still, like, really likes you. He made a doll that came to life. I love Geppetto.
12:02So what's the story? You know, you see, you went to the dentist. Here's what I did. They told me, you have to wait back here where the crowd won't see you. And I said, okay. And I thought they were leading me to a dressing room and they led me to the garage at Sirius XM. I'm not talking about Sirius XM garage. Like this is the garage. It's a real garage. How long were you in the garage? And my car is there, like 20 minutes. So I just sat on my car and watched other cars come and go and people would just wave at me and I'd go, yeah, hi. to be like, look, it's the girl from the Wendy's logo. And I go, hi.
12:36How are you? Nice to see you. This is where I am in show business? Yeah. I'm sitting on the trunk of my car in a garage. You're such a big celebrity. You bet. Yeah. The biggest. Yeah. The very biggest. All right, we got to get into it. We have a very big show today. I'm excited. I am too. I am too. I'm really excited. A huge star is here. I think his people made a mistake. But anyway, we're thrilled that he's here. He's like, no. He's been on the show several times. I love this guy. My guest today is a Grammy award-winning singer-songwriter who released his sixth album, Subtract, earlier this year.
13:10Now he has a new album titled Autumn Variations. He's so incredibly talented. Thrilled he's here. Let's welcome Ed Sheeran.
13:26Sorry, the seat's wet. We'll tell you about that later. It's a shitty show you're on right now. I will say, I was thinking about this. I think you came on my show two times, and the first time you came on the show, am I right that you were barefoot when you performed? No. I feel like I look like a hobbit, but I don't practice hobbitisms. I'm pretty sure you were barefoot. I took a lot of pills that night. I don't remember what happened. No, I do do barefoot. I remember I went barefoot for like a summer when I was recording, and I was making a song with Bruno Mars and I remember him just being like, just put some shoes on, man.
14:04Jesus. Was it helping you? Was writing and recording Barefoot giving you some kind of special energy like connecting you to the earth? Not really. No, I was just like, it was hot. I gave you such an out for doing something so cool, connecting to the vital powers of the earth and you just said, no, it was hot. And we have a lot to talk about because we have some things in common. I know that you are from England but you have a lot of Irish heritage. Yeah, my dad's Irish. And I feel like the redhead is headism. But did you get a tough time at school for being a redhead? Yeah, it wasn't just because my hair was red.
14:42Let's just say there were other problems too. My personality. Were you that tall in school? No, I got tall later on. I got tall very late. It was like later in high school. So I was very average height. I had bright orange hair. My mother insisted on cutting our hair for us because she didn't want to pay for us to go to a barber shop. So she would cut it straight across in a bowl cut. My two front teeth were dead, so I had gray teeth up front. I could keep going, but it was a fucking train wreck. And then the red hair, and then my name is Conan. So you put all those things together, and it was a terrible time.
15:26what's it like is there anti-redhead bias in england you think at the time that you were growing up yeah i think i think it's i think it's just school because actually as soon as i got out of school like no one cared it wasn't like i mean my it gets referred to whenever i whenever there's a review of my album or there's like it's always flame hair or like redhead or like whatever but i guess that's just a way of describing someone but yeah it's uh yeah anything that makes you different i think later becomes an advantage oh 100 but when you're a kid i just wanted to look like everybody else i did not want to look different when i was a kid i i did not want to in any way stand out and then i looked like a pinata that had been very hastily assembled and but i think it helps like especially going into show business like i had a tiny tiny guitar and And I would gig around London and everyone would know me as the fat ginger kid with the small guitar.
16:25So no, no, no, but it was good because I was remembered. People were like, oh, it's that. It wasn't like, oh, that tall, good looking bloke with the big guitar. It was always like the fat ginger kid with the guitar. And people knew who I was. Did you play a tiny guitar on purpose? It was more like I'd won a battle of the bands when I was 17 and they gave me a voucher to a music store. And I remember going in the music store and seeing this small guitar and being like, that would be perfect for like traveling. because I took chains and tubes everywhere. So I was like, that would be perfect just to have on my backpack and I'll have all my CDs and pedals and everything in the bag rather than like lugging around the big guitar.
16:58So it actually was more out of ease and then it became my thing and now that's what I use on stage. So it's why people think you're 65 feet tall. All they're using is their frame of reference is completely off. I went to go and watch Barbie with some friends and there were these guys in the queue in front of me and they looked around and they went, is that Ed Sheeran? And one of them went nah, nah Ed Sheeran's much taller than that.
17:26I have had many people and this is not a joke just because you said that I've had many people say to me you look like Conan O 'Brien if he were tall. Right. Because I'm sort of on a 6 '4 spectrum and people that just knew me for almost 30 years on television think of me as a very just compact person that can fit in their television and when this big monster is looming in front of them you know one of those balloons that's in front of a car dealership they uh they don't know they just think well he can't be him so so i know i'm here for you to interview me but i got i gotta ask about you writing simpsons and being staff on that like oh yeah sure go ahead it's i just think did you did you write full full episodes yeah and just hand them in and go like that's what what happens is um and this should be the whole interview i think ed sheeran talks to conor brian about the simpsons and i'm in heaven right now that's what i want to know yeah yeah okay i'll tell you all about it it is funny because it is one of the now that there's an internet there and the clips are you know clips circulate i can when i travel around the world or if i travel around the uk they can know me from clips of comedy clips from my show but before that when i would go to the uk uh they would not know who i was because a lot of american talk shows weren't shown there but they would know if the simpsons came up they would flip out and they would ask me which episodes i worked on and i would tell them and they would be able to know all those they would know everything because simpsons fans are everywhere well it was in in england as well like it was we only really had no one had cable so we had bbc1 bbc2 itv and maybe channel 4 right and bbc2 every day had two episodes of the simpsons so like you'd get home from school and that would be the thing you watch and it just like i get but never i swear bbc only owns a couple of seasons because it was always the same episodes and like i see new seasons now and you know you never got this you never saw bart get older it was i think it we we stopped we stopped at like season 10 yeah but my kids love it now you know it's uh well what's funny is that um you know i was there uh i don't see i'm my simpsons fans know everything and they get upset that I don't know it because I was there and I was there, you know, in a fairly early stage considering how long it's run.
19:44But we would watch the episodes hundreds of times, whereas you probably just wrote and watched it. We would work on those ones, but yeah, what would happen is you would pitch a concept for an episode. So I would go and I'd say, here's what I think should happen. And I would have all these beats for an episode and ideas for an episode. And if they liked it, there was a little gong in the room and you'd do this once a year and they would literally, if they left and the executive producer was really laughing someone would get up and bang the gong and say like that's going to be an episode and i remembered uh the couple of times that they bang the gong when i said my episode and i my episodes and i was so excited were you doing late night then or you know oh no god no no late night is you because they start i remember an episode where they rip you on it and you're a late late night house on it but so you would just come on it was an homage yeah it's not a rip those are my friends they would never do that to me they're they're comedy writers they're very kind um no it's funny because uh yeah i was working on the simpsons and then uh for a couple seasons and then i went to audition for this late night show thinking i'll never get this i'm a writer on the simpsons and then tragically got it and uh that's how it felt at the time like oh shit but i left and was there ever part of you that just like turned up at the writer's room being like can i chuck in an idea every now and then you know You know, it's so funny.
21:03I did come back years later and the room is not so many people think, oh my God, you know, this epic television show and this known for its, you know, really good writers. And I'm just these people I got to work with are insanely talented. And the room is just awful. The room is terrible. It looks like the worst. I mean, it did at the time. I think it's much nicer now, but there was just a bad shag carpet. it sofas that you know if you're at your first year in college or university and you just get them on the sidewalk and we would sit there and eat fried food there was a writer that smoked all the time who sat next to me so uh when i die it'll be because of him and big laugh gang laugh it up and we'd eat bad food and and think and so it wasn't sexy or fun or cool at all but uh and and i remembered we played it we all chewed up some caramel and put it together into big blob and mash it up into the ceiling and then try to get things to stick to it because you'll do anything to pass the time.
22:03I love that. Yeah. Well, that's all the time we have. Yeah. Can I just say you're one of the best guests we've ever had on this show? So are you, you're Catholic. Were you raised Catholic or? I did communion and all that stuff, but I'm not like practicing. I'm very much like, I believe in afterlife just because I've had friends pass away and I think it's depressing not to think that they're in a better place. I completely understand that. I wouldn't say that I'm hugely religious. I mean, I do midnight mass at Christmas and stuff like that, but I'm not like a practicing. Yeah. I mean, I grew up very Catholic family and mass all the time.
22:45And so when I'm around and when we do on the occasions when we go to a mass, I can say all the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people that know me are like, what the hell? you just and it's like well it's in my bone marrow i have a uh one of my best friends is a catholic he's a god godfather of one of my kids and when he talks about his ex-girlfriends he always goes like that this is no i'm not even joking about this but as my mother as she got a little older she didn't want it she had trouble turning her neck so you had to back straight out of our driveway in brookline massachusetts right on the boston line so my mother would just throw throw the car into reverse, cross herself and go.
23:26What? What? Yeah. And then later they'd be like peeling kids off the back of the car. So one of the things that I was thinking about you today, Ed, because I was thinking about the amazing, absolutely, how you made yourself. I was thinking about it today, which, you know, there are artists out there who are very talented, who, who are discovered, but you, as you were talking about earlier, you've got this guitar, you're getting on the tube, you're getting, you're going all over town you really were a getting yourself known on youtube and when you got your first hit it wasn't this you weren't this produced act that had gone through the machine which i think is fascinating well i didn't make it on my looks i disagree thank you i disagree because i feel like i'm looking in a mirror uh the best looking man i've ever seen do you know when i when i moved to london uh you know i played guitar at school and i wrote songs at school and I moved to London and I quickly realized that I wasn't any good.
24:25And everyone that I was gig, I was 17, I was gigging with like 24 year olds. They had good songs. They sung well, they played guitar. But I realized that I could outwork them. I was like, I'm not better than you, but I can do more shows. I can go and I would book like three shows on a Thursday night and get on the tube and go and play three songs, three songs, three songs. And I was just like, if I play every night of the week, maybe two times a night, maybe three times a night, and I'm just doing that every day, eventually I'll get really good. and that is what happened after a while it just you you the practice does make perfect where do you think that work ethic came from do you do you see it i mean because i do think that sometimes you don't even know where it comes from you just have this sense i think my dad my dad was really tough on us when we were kids to work really hard and i was always confused because i was like but i don't like maths i don't like science and like why would i work at something that i don't want to do and as soon as i found music i was like oh i'm going to do this every day and it was the the detriment of like my uh academicness like i wouldn't say i'm a hugely smart person in academics but as soon as i found music i was like this is what i'm gonna do um and my dad always said like choose someone that you admire and work harder than them so like my hero when i was a kid was james blunt and when i signed to atlantic records he was on atlantic records and i said in his peak year get me his diary and we'll do double everything that he did and that's exactly what we did we just chose all the things and then doubled it that's absolutely i mean and that first of all i was talking to you backstage i got past your security and uh how did he get in here um but i one of the things that really uh blew me away as you were you were talking to me about how still today you spend most of your time in studio i mean you're with your family obviously but then you're in the studio a lot.
26:17Yeah, I mean, I don't have hobbies. So my hobby is music. I do two gigs a weekend and I do five days in the studio every week. I do 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. every day. And then that means I can do morning routine with the kids, take them to nursery, go to studio, get them back from nursery, put them to bed. It's like, it's a nice routine to be in. Do you find that there's, sometimes people talk about this great inspiration. They sit down and Elton John will say that sometimes these songs came to him and he sat down and he said the good ones came very quickly sometimes you have to write a lot of shit ones to get the good ones though yes i find that like i my thing i always say so we i'm in every day in the studio and if i get one song a month that's good i'm so happy because that's that's an album in a year that's 12 songs uh in a year so we would make like today i've i've been in we made three songs and like maybe one of them's good but by the end of the week we'll have like maybe one that's good if i get one this month i'm happy there's an old saying that uh an old concept that when someone writes their great novel it's their amazing novel it means they have nine ones in the drawer yeah yeah totally and and so usually their second novel isn't great because it was one of the ones in the drawer that they just handed to the publisher when they were then a big deal that's what someone at my record label said to me when i put out my first record and i was like i think i could put out my second quite quickly and he's like don't use the offshoots of album one go back in and make an album and it was great advice so i treat every album as if it's like my debut going in to make the thing that you're going to give to the world first and then you work it as if it's your debut as as as well this album's a little bit different though because this was not that it's very much something that i i can't i was saying it to you in the dressing room it sort of happened by accident it was very much this you because you came out with uh an album quite recently yeah and then you follow it up with this uh album and i was listening to it to today and i really love it and you said yeah it actually it was sort of forming while the other album was forming which so i blew my mind yeah so i had this idea well i say i had this idea my dad has my dad's full of great ideas sometimes not so great but he his his idea he said to me like there's this composer called elgar and elgar did this thing called enigma variations which is 14 uh compositions about 14 of his friends and he never told anyone who who was about and it was an enigma and he said there's never been a modern version of it wouldn't it be cool if you did a variations record so i was like oh that's fascinating actually and i was talking to aaron who i made the record with and i was like we should do this record base it around the season and it'll be variations of the season with with with my friend friends uh and then whilst we were making the record i had my best friend die my wife got diagnosed with a tumor and then i went into a court case and i wrote loads of songs about that in the space of that month and then because all of those songs were finished quite quickly that album was done which is became subtract but actually we were in making variations so after all of that we We went back and finished it and it was done.
29:26But songs like on, if you know my album Subtract, the opening two songs were meant to be on Autumn Variations. They were meant to be the first two of Autumn Variations and it just came, the two Sonics are very different. One's quite a sad album and one's quite a sort of hopeful, joyous fall album. And you think of Autumn Variations as being more hopeful? I think so. There's a lot more, like Subtract is pretty much all just doom and gloom and depression and, you know, being sad. we were going through a lot of yeah there wasn't there wasn't much happy moments um but yeah i mean it's about my friends so it's my friends like falling in love in september or like breaking up in september or being depressed in september or no one turning up to their birthday party because they're having a sober september you know like it's different it's it's about uh it's all about september well no because the thing is like i find it i find it weird talking to americans about i mean you call it fall but like september's great everywhere but england is shit in november like autumn in england is not fun whereas you guys it's all fall and it's apple juice and everyone's having a great time it's very not here in los angeles it's oh yeah los angeles it's just a different kind of fire zero seasons yeah um it's uh yeah so i i think you know it gets very you know days are really short gets very dark very cold very lonely and it's that's kind of what was the inspiration of the record that after a month of uh no so like three months of summer where you're having all the fun with all the friends and you're going to festivals and you're in the pub gardens like it suddenly changes very quickly in in england which is sort of the inspiration of the record but it's all like it's weird the the changes that happened in people's lives like i would have people like having babies and suddenly their life is completely shifted or getting into a new relationship and it's completely shifted it's interesting that after summer there is a switch in people's heads that goes right back to work back to school back it's it's a different feeling well it's funny because we're all on that schedule when we're kids and then of course it changes because you got to work through the summer you got to work into the fall but i still feel that way i still feel like well time to get back at it exactly even though nothing really changed it's the same in the two times that it happens in the year uh september and january those are the two where you're like right okay so i was listening to autumn variations today and there was a there is a song you wrote about England and you talk about how we get a bad England gets how much you love England but we get a bad reputation because of the weather and what's so interesting to me is that and you talk about how you actually like that weather I think because of my genetic Boston but also 100 % Irish and everything I just love I love it when it's rainy and foggy yeah and everyone else is bitching it's a weird one and I'm I love it I'm just so happy I would choose like genuinely I would choose the English coastline any time of the year over any other coastline in the world even if it's like pissing it down with rain and it's like I love swimming in the English sea as well it's just cold it's like aggressive.
32:20Well that's just stupid no come on no really the English sea I don't mean it's it's gotta be well actually no you're in the Gulf stream so it's not freezing. No it's cold it's cold yeah yeah yeah. I try to give you an out there. I have a music so my whole last record I made but that song in England I wrote by the sea and I made subtract by the sea so I was like oh I'm going to shoot all the videos and one of the director had this idea of like you should be in the sea and the wave should just be like battering you down I was like cool and she was like we could shoot it in Los Angeles you know and I was like I'll do it in England and we shot it in December and oh god I definitely like I lost a couple of inches for a couple of days I know exactly what you're talking about at least yours came back they're still looking for mine
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33:12that's amazing gotta get that image out of my head moving on you know what amazed me you're obviously you're a very young man especially contrasted with myself and yet so many musical influences are these people that you know Eric Clapton it was a huge influence on you and I think well you're very young to be influenced by Eric Clapton but of course he's timeless the way the Beatles are timeless the way I basically I just had my dad's record collection it's very like cliched of like that's what I listen to but it wasn't until like you know Christmases where maybe an aunt sends you 10 pounds and then you can go out and buy the CD that you want to get but I was very much like I only listened to my dad's record collection because that's what we had in the house so I guess I was like 10 or 11 when I started forming my own tastes but but yeah there was i mean my dad has some great records and they're still like some of my like moon dance that van morrison i think is like a perfect album for any time like any time you put that on it could be like the end of the night could be the start of the night it could be like dinner like it's just it's a perfect album was your do you say your dad is is he from belfast no so my dad's dad is from belfast and my dad's because you know because uh yeah um ben morrison's from northern ireland and so i just think you never know where some things are coming to you or why things appeal to you he doorstepped me at my uh um hotel like it was like i was in like 2014 i just made thinking out loud um and it had become a hit and uh i i remember i my gran had actually come to the gig and we had a lot of whiskey afterwards as you do and i'd gone to bed at like four o 'clock in the morning and i remember getting this phone call at like six i was like really bleary i just like what and the person at the front desk is just like van morrison's here he wants to have breakfast with you and i was like no he's not i thought someone's taking the piss so i hung up and then they rung back and they're like no no no he's actually downstairs he wants to have breakfast with you and i was like cool showered really quickly went down and yeah just essentially had breakfast with him it was really surreal because i was still drunk i was still it's like seven o 'clock in the morning i was just like is this but he's really sweet i've got to sort of like meet him a couple of times since then but it was like such a nice thing he's like he's like one of my heroes and i was people always say don't meet your heroes and it was such a like not that thing it was just sitting down he was really interested in spotify wants to talk about that and you're explaining it to him well i didn't you explained how vcrs work i it was relatively new at this point all i knew is that on my first album i remember because no one really put their records on Spotify to begin with because they didn't really know what the what is this yeah yeah and I was like I want my I want everyone to have my music and I just remember never selling a record in Sweden and I was always like this record sold in Sweden was zero and then I'd go there and I'd play the biggest gigs of my European tour and I'm like this is fucking weird the like correlation like have I sold no records here but the most people want to come and see the songs and it's because Spotify was so accessible I see I think that's what's good about music now and it's more difficult to break through with new songs because there's a hundred thousand new songs released every day but like the quality will inevitably go up because you know like back when i was a teenager and buying albums and i think this is why piracy became a thing is i think record labels took the piss they had like one great song that they put on an album with a bunch of filler and they'd sell it to you for 22 dollars or 22 pounds and you'd buy it and be like i feel ripped off here and you'd be like i wish i could just download that one song that i liked and i think that's why it all they basically pushed it too far yeah ripped off people too much right i'm curious um you mentioned don't meet your heroes i was shocked you came uh oh my god son of place but Ed Ed he is funny he is funny the point is Ed who are other people that you met that obviously I mean you have achieved this incredible success this insane success you get to meet whoever you want now in the music world were there people where you thought I mean have you have you checked off every box you must have checked off My rule was always, I'm never going to seek out someone to meet them.
37:35I'm going to wait until they want to meet me. I remember doing SNL, not even doing SNL. I'd made my album with Rick Rubin, and Rick was also making Eminem's album at the time. And Rick was like, I want to do SNL with Eminem. You want to come down? And I was like, yeah, I'd love to. And then when I was there, Rick was like, do you want to meet him? And I was like, no. I want to, but I want him to be like, hey, I like your stuff. so I just waited and four years later was then the time that he was like oh I like your stuff we should do a song and now we're actually friends and I feel I feel like that's like a I completely understand what you're talking about my I don't want the picture and the no no and my out my constant assumption is which I I mean I don't know I think it's that maybe the healthier way to approach it but my constant assumption is oh they don't want to meet me and I definitely don't want to ever have that feeling of well here's a nice little treat for them hello and they're yeah they're not that happy to see me that's I would die but I think that that's sometimes why it's don't meet your heroes because people are premature with with it the guy that made me start songwriting was Damien Rice and he is like a bit reclusive and like you know at my peak I had met his sister and stuff and I was like do you think he'd ever like want a hang or anything and she's just like i don't know i guess you'll see him at some point and you know i i guess i met him when i was 12 and then when i was i played in iceland in reykjavik and it just so happened he was there and that's the time we hung out and we spent a good 48 hours together we like went on a hike we got on a hot pool we had and it was like one of those things of like this is why i waited this is like it's it was a really nice interaction yeah you waited till it was organic and it was a real a real moment rather than people pushing you towards people yeah forced yeah but no i i'd say i've met all part from i haven't met dylan that's the only one that i would love to meet but again like if you meet bob dylan prematurely like i've told this story and i met him in the worst way uh but i think it bears repeating which is naked i was with my i was yeah naked in the sauna i was with my friend um right after a good swim in the north C.
39:49No, I went to see Dylan play. And of course, I'm with my good friend, Jimmy Vivino, who's an amazing guitar player and my band leader for a long time. And he, of course, the next thing I knew we were backstage. And I've been doing the show for a bunch of years at that point. And suddenly I find myself in this room and I wasn't prepared. And there was just this sort of people moved around and then I was just kind of pushed forward and I'm standing, Bob Dylan's right where you are and I'm right where I am and he, it's that phase where he has the tiny little drawn on mustache and like the gunslinger flat hat and he's looking at me and he's got that little mustache and he went, hey I know you from the TV and I thought okay, well at least I'm in now and I can start talking to Bob Dylan and I swear to God this happened just as I'm about to you know say oh you know bob i hear conan conan hey how's it going and i look over and it's vice president former vice president al gore and he's like come here come here you know let's talk about the environment and yeah al gore is cool and everything that's fine but bob dylan and then bob i turned around and bob dylan was like gotta go and ran and like ran away and i was cockblocked by the vice president of the United States.
41:15And I never saw Bob Dylan again. And that just rings in my head. I know you from the TV. And then that's it. I think that's it. That's it. That's all I'm going to get. I had it with, I was at the GQ Awards and Tarantino was there and my manager's wife was like, you're going to say hi. And I was like, no, no, no, honestly, I don't want to meet him unless he wants me. She's like, you have to, you have to, you have to. I was like, no, no, I really don't. and then the more and more we drunk later on in the night she just goes up to him and she's just like anybody wants to meet you and i'm like oh no and same thing just like hey man yeah great like films thanks i see about the people i mean that you've i mean like yes you've you you know elton john and clapton but you also beyonce and jay-z you've hung out with them you've had you've broken bread with them yes you've had yeah well i kind of like i got to know them through really weirdly actually it was um i played you know what jules holland is it's like yeah yeah i played jules holland's hootenanny which is like the new year's eve show and you play a cover and they said what cover do you want to do and i said well i'll do stevie wonder's master blaster because i love i love the tune and two months later was the grammys and the guy that was running the grammys uh music ken earlick was like we're going to do this stevie wonder tribute concert for stevie he's going to be in the audience it's going to be with his band greg filling games is going to be in it we've got all these people playing do you want to play and I was like yeah and he's like what do you want to play and I went well I'll play Master Blaster I just I literally just played it and he was like great and then like two days later he rung up and went oh Beyonce wants to do Master Blaster and I was and I was like that's totally fine I'll do I'll do I was made to love her and then and then he rung back and was like would you sing it with Beyonce and I was like uh yeah you have a different life than i do i remember getting to because i'm not it was with it was with beyonce and and gary clark jr and gary clark jr is one of the best like living living guitarists yes and uh uh i just remember like i'm not a very talented guitarist i can play acoustic guitar and chords and i remember ken coming up and being like i've got this idea dueling guitars you and Gary and I was like I can play like a c chord but anyway so we did that and then we all met at that thing and then I then did like other shows with her and then it was like one of these ones of like you don't ask you don't get I'd made this song perfect that was uh starting to pick up steam and become a hit and um someone said oh we should put out like a duet version of this because i'd done like a uh italian version with and andrea bocelli and they were like who would you want to do it and i was like well realistically i don't really want to do a duet unless it's beyonce and they were like well why don't you ask her and she said yes and it was like it was i was so surprised i was kind of rung her up on the i was like do you want to do it she's like yeah i'm in and so it was it was one of those that simple i could just ring her up no no no no What am I misunderstanding, Sona?
44:15No, no, no, no, no. You can't. No, it's just Ed, not me. No, no, yeah. Ed can. You cannot. No, do you know what I've learned in this business? Ed said if you don't try. No, but the worst thing that someone can say is no. So if you prepare yourself for the no. Like I always say to, you know, if I'm doing something, like I'm on this tour at the moment and occasionally I'll be in cities where like, so like Eminem came on in Detroit. But what I said to him was like, you can cancel on the day. Like, I'm not going to feel weird if you suddenly go, I'm not coming. So it's very much like I'm always prepared for the no.
44:52And when it's a yes, it's happy days. I still will wake up in the morning and it doesn't quite make sense to me that, you know, some of the things that I've been able to experience and people have been able to meet doesn't, it still doesn't quite add up. But do you prefer this to the late night show? because obviously late night you get five minutes with a guest i loved the doing the late night show i absolutely loved it but in terms of deep dives and interviews yeah i did it for you know almost 30 years and and i got to the point where i thought i really want to try to flex these different muscles and we started doing the podcast and three years before we wrapped up the late night show and what i found was in the old world you know you could do a song maybe you can do a song and then we can have a quick chat but there was no way we could do this and this is really meaningful to me because i always get so stressed out in the late night shows because i'm like i have to have a good story because if i don't have a good story then my three minutes is wasted so you're kind of there and you're doing like a run of 20 late night shows in all these different countries right and you're like well i can't use the same i find it very like i much prefer this well because because this to me is you know all those years and again i loved doing it and i think it's an amazing format and i enjoyed it but this to me is a much more human scale so i can that old way of people coming out and being under that pressure and it's like you know hey ed how you doing how am i doing well the other day i walked down the street and i had a ham sandwich ketchup you know and you know what i mean though And it's just like, well, that's, first of all, that's not how anybody talks.
46:37And it's also annoying, you know? And so it's, but this, and also the fact that you flip it around and you can ask me a question, ask anybody a question. But I find that so much more interesting as well, because also the people that listen to your podcast are probably more interested in you than they are any other guests. Oh, I don't know.
46:59I bet there's like I bet there's so many deep dive stories that like he hasn't even come out with who's who's the weirdest person you've got high with well okay that's a little bit of a trick question because that's not really my thing you've definitely done it in your life you've definitely hung out with Willie Nelson and gone god I have to well does high include does high include beverages yeah okay okay but if we're going beverages like dribbly drunk oh dribbly drunk dribbly drunk yeah well then I'm with historical figures who are long dead I mean they don't even in my mind it's just like oh Lincoln you're the best you know Churchill I mean it doesn't even matter at that point I'm just talking to everybody who ever lived oh Lincoln I didn't want to meet you until you said you wanted to meet me when mahatma gandhi said he wanted to meet conan where's your um so so but i mean who like for you who did you who have you gotten smashed around that was just because it wow yeah i mean that's that's kind of i would say that's kind of my thing like i love i love taking out random people oh do we have a party for you after the show um it's about nine inches from here uh i've had you know a fun one actually i was in i was in melbourne recently and i was with my wife and my mother-in-law and snoop dog was playing oh my god and i was like we gotta go like when like when that i i guess he plays in england but it's never like when i have a night off or whatever so we went i just i remember i remember him meeting my mother-in-law and being like what's up queen and i was like oh yes that's the best but i went i went with um i've sort of got quite close friends with um russell crowe over the years and he's really close with snoop dog they have sort of like smoke offs and stuff i love these connections um no but they never imagine they're like really damn judy dench and snoop dog they're really cool but um but so i was in i was and i don't i don't really smoke at all and i was in i was in the dressing room and they're just you know blunt for blunt for blunt for blunt and i'm like i guess at some point during the night i have to just to be like let's make this new dog um and so i kind of was having this conversation with him and i was like this is good like a good memory like i have a conversation i'm drinking my wine and blah blah blah and he's like do you want someone i was like okay now's the time i'm like i've had a good amount of conversation so i have a bit and i'm like i don't feel too bad this is good and i have a bit more then i have a bit more then i have a bit more Oh my God.
49:42I just remember looking at him being like, I can't see right now.
49:49I know I have eyes. They were like wide open. I was like, I just, it's. So this is a true story. Snoop Dogg did our show and he has his entourage. This is the late night show. And this is back in the nineties and two thousands. And we're, you know, NBC and it's a relatively small studio. He comes with a big entourage and they have one of the dressing rooms that adjoin the studio and they all go into that dressing room and shut the door. And what I don't know is they're all, I mean, they're smoking so much pot so intensely in this room and it's getting filtered in through. I'm not kidding. Studio 6A, this is a real thing.
50:29So I go out. Hey everybody. Yeah, well anyway, you know, President Clinton today. And the crowd was laughing at the setups to the joke. So I'd be saying like, well, you know, there was a bad earthquake in Alaska today. Jesus Christ. And the crowd was getting like high and then you could smell it. And we were like, this is, this is, this is elite. This is, this is wrong on so many levels. It was bring your infant day. I was just so screwed up But it was I mean what are you going to do When everyone understands Oh that's Snoop Dogg So it's Yeah yeah yeah I feel like I'd be disappointed If he wasn't high I guess he's He'll never disappoint you There's an artist There's an artist That I work Quite a lot with Called Burner Boy And I would say I'd say he's That's the most I've ever seen anyone Ingest Weed And I work As I said Ten to five And he came to the studio And I had a gig later on at night and it was very much the studio door was closed and just smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke and I remember walking on stage at the gig being like I don't know if I can same thing like I'm not quite here it's funny I don't well Sony you can attest like I don't uh I never smoked just like that's not my thing no it's not my thing and I think uh I just it never took with me no but it wasn't even a moral stance for it your sense of humor is perfect for someone who's high right it's like it's written by someone who's high all the time yeah that's why people are shocked that he doesn't do it because i think of things as if i just assumed that like obviously like i didn't assume you did it but i just assumed occasionally you might be like oh when in rome i'm here with i've tried yeah i have in situations when the situation is just right and people are i'm like all right i'll do that and just it doesn't really i don't get stranger or i'm already strange so it just they cancel each other out you know i think uh was that was the last one of the i think the last show we did who was it oh seth rogan seth rogan i mean smoke with him on the air and he's another one i feel like you have to when you do yeah it's like a national crime if you don't you know um least favorite guest on the chat show you gotta be honest you gotta be honest You gotta be honest.
52:51Well, I actually, I can because I, I actually, I gave this up. And this is someone from a long time ago, but it was when I was first starting the show. And we had, I mean, this amazing singer, actress, Eartha Kitt was on the show. And a lot of people know her from the 1960s Batman. She played Catwoman a little bit, but she was on the show and she was very tough to talk to. And I was brand new. And so I put most of it on myself, but I'd say things like, oh, you dated James Dean, you know, you did back in 1954 and should say, well, so what? What do you, why are you asking me? Also, I would, I, that's not even a question.
53:33It's just a statement. Yeah, it's true. I guess that's on. As I said, I was brand new, Ed. Now I think this is my least favorite.
53:49so who who would be because you would have regular guests who who'd be the one that you know you knew the booking was coming and be like oh i love those well you know oh my god i mean there's so many but the one that you were like super super pumped for every time they came norm mcdonald uh was meaningful to me because that so so so so and and will ferrell people that would bring they would bring something to the table. I mean, Will Ferrell came out once and he had prepared it, but he came out and he had a bird on his shoulder. And you know how Will can just commit to something with those eyes.
54:28And right up front, he said, no questions about the bird. And so I commit to just, it's this giant white cockatoo. And he, you know, we'd be talking for a little bit and I'd be going, yeah. And the bird would start to move around on his shoulder and be easy and go, is there a problem there? And he'd be like, we're not talking about the bird. It was just fantastic. But I mean, so I loved it when someone would bring something that would turn the whole thing upside down on its head. You know? Have I answered enough of your questions? Hey, I have a new album coming out. I'm really excited about. I'm sorry.
55:05It's called Autumn Variations. I don't know. I was very much looking forward to this today. And I'll have to tell you something. I have a brother, Neil, who's a couple of years older than me and doesn't follow new music, doesn't know a lot of the music. I mean, I think his musical collection stopped at like 1967. And I was talking to him on a cell phone today just upstairs. And I said, well, I got to go because I'm going to talk to Ed Sheeran. He's like, oh, my God, Ed Sheeran. That guy's huge. and then his attitude was kind of why is he talking to you thanks man ed an absolute delight that you came by and i do want to mention that you're going to do which sounded amazing to me a contest to have let fans make potential videos yeah is that something that's really going to happen the bonus record of the album is going to be live from 14 fans living room so i just i just i door stopped fans i found out who all my top fans were um and i knock on their door and i've got a mic on and a guitar and they go and i walk in their living room and i play one song from the album and it's recorded and then that's going to be the bonus album so that's like the live album live from fans living rooms and then i wanted to get uh basically there's so i have fans all over the world that are super talented and creative in you know places like Bulgaria or you know like anywhere and I wanted to just basically be like the people that make my music videos are usually connected in some way to Hollywood or like the British film scene and I was like I want to actually spread the net and let anyone be creative so it's basically that they've been submitting ideas and then I choose 14 ideas in 14 countries and then fund them basically so yeah I'm excited to do it i've kind of got to manage my expectations on this record though because you know there's not a single that goes to radio or like a big major label push but it's basically just it's an album that i made that it is what it is and i've just got to do it today it's really beautiful i loved it and uh and and and like i say you this will lead you to the next thing so you don't know i don't worry about you i don't think anyone in this room worries about you i'm So happy that you're on this planet and you're such a delightful, funny, and inquisitive, really inquisitive person.
57:34The only person I've talked to in a while that gave a shit about me. So, hey, Ed Sheeran, thank you so much for being here. You're welcome in our world anytime. Thank you. And continued massive success. Nice one, man. Thank you. Ed Sheeran, everybody. Appreciate it.
57:56Good God, that is a delightful young man. Not bad. He really is. He really is like magical. He is. He was so funny and quick. And I mean, I could have talked to him for like six hours. Talented and really cool. I could have done without the questions about you. That's why you liked him so much. Yeah. I know. Yeah. He just really seemed to dig what I was doing. No, he's, he is. I need, we need, you know, some more gingers out there to kill it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Let's do it for the gingers. Yeah. We got one now, killing it. I mean, really, I'm thinking he's just so great and so natural.
58:34I do have to say, I know this is a huge generalization, but over the years, whenever I talk to people from the UK, they just have this conversational gift. They just are natural, like, hey, let's shoot the shit. Let's talk, which I really like. I think it's nice, too. I don't know. It must be something about their... Go ahead. No, you've done it again, Sona. Go ahead. You brought an amazing show to a halt. They're what? You're that person on the bus that pulls on the brake. Stop this bus! I want to get off here! It's not one of the stops. Yeah, I want to get off here! What were you going to say?
59:16They're porridge? No, I didn't know what to say. What do you say to what you said? I guess, yes, yes, there is something about... But you specifically were heading toward a noun. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. The sentence ended at there. That's where it ended. There is something about there. That was the sentence. So why did you say that sentence? Something about there meaning that place. That place. Oh, oh. The United Kingdom. There wasn't more. There's something about there. Oh. T-H-E-R-E. T-H-E-R-E. By Sonam of Cessier. Oh. Period. Okay. Yes. Yeah. And you thought that sentence. You thought that sentence and said, I'm going to speak that.
59:53it's nice that you think I thought I'm sending this from the brain right out the face I don't think about the face hey brain send it right on out it's ready to go no notes
1:00:07I didn't think about it most of what I say I'm saying and thinking as I say that is your magic it is your magic oh thank you you know that I love you you say these things and I just think what the hell what the hell's happening All right. You're welcome. Well, now we have to pay some bills. And actually, I believe we're going to bring Blay back out here, right? I'm already out here. I think I'm... Oh, yes. Okay, good. Have you been there the whole time? This is called a live ad read. Yeah. Are you ready? Is everyone ready? There we go. These guys are ready to go. I love it. This is an insanely good crowd.
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1:04:45Ladies and gentlemen, let's bring out David Hoppe! David Hoppe!
1:04:55Hello there, Willoughby. I was standing there and I was like, he's going to do it. Okay, quick backstory. We were driving here. I was driving, you were giving directions and then you said take a left on Willoughby and I thought Willoughby would be a funny name to start calling you and then I started for the rest of the day I've been going, hey Willoughby and he's like, what? and just because you brought up that street name I kind of like it, oh Willoughby I like it well anyway Willoughby, what's up? you're going to take some audience questions only if I want to, and I do do you want to? yes, very much so if anyone has a question for Conan, raise your hand what is your name?
1:05:31My name's Haley. Haley, how are you? I'm good. How are you guys? I'm good. This is so surreal seeing you guys live. You guys are just as funny in person as you are on audio tapes. This has been so cool. Audio? You talk like me. Yeah, I don't know why I said that. Here's a new audio tape for the young ones. Send it out via post immediately. Oh, my gosh. Well, my question for all of you guys is, so Norm MacDonald is easily one of my favorite comedians of all time. Yeah, he's phenomenal. So do you guys have any favorite like bits, moments or memories that he's ever done? Like, I know he's known for so many of his viral clips, but just I know you knew him on a personal level.
1:06:09So just anything that you remember. One of the things that I remember that Norm did, I don't think many people know about, but I think you can find it if you look. It was so random. Norm would just do these random things. And so Sully Sullenberger, the pilot, famously, his plane's taking off in New York. one of the engines goes out because I think there's a bird strike and he, or something goes wrong and he lands it on the Hudson River and everyone gets off safely and he, you know, he's got this mustache and he's cool and he saved everybody and everybody got Sully Sullenberger fever and then, not for a long time, but anyway.
1:06:45But then I think Tom Hanks made a movie. Yeah. And then Norm came on and he had this idea that he wanted to make, you know, it's too bad. I produced a Sully Sullenberger movie before he safely landed the plane. And I'm like, this was his idea. And he made this. So he came on and he had shot it. And it's a total lie. But he's like, yeah, Sully, I'm kind of mad about that Sullenberger guy. And I said, what are you mad about? Well, I made a movie with him before he did that. And why'd you do that? I just chose a pilot and I made a movie with him. And then he goes and does this thing. And it's really just Sullenberger.
1:07:21It's Norm playing Sully Sullenberger. And he grabbed our makeup woman, Deb Pullman, and said, you're gonna be in it too as my wife. Literally while he's in the makeup chair. Oh yeah, what are you, Deb? What's your name? Deb, you're gonna be in it too. And she's like, okay, didn't even change. She's just wearing the clothes she wore to work. And so he's going like, all right, buddy, it's your captain Sully Sullenberger, and we're gonna now land the plane. Oh, who's here? My wife's here. and Deb walked in and went, hi, how are you? I love you too, dear. And then she left. And he was like, all right, here we go.
1:07:59And we've landed. So there you go. I think we're all good. And then the credits came down. It was the randomest, weirdest idea. And he made it. And you can see it. Go look for it. And it was one of these things that's not, you know, it never trended or whatever, but it's just out there. And you just see Norm. My favorite thing he did as a comedian was intentionally waste people's time. And it was so, he didn't care in this beautiful way because people, he, and he, it was just glorious. And I look at it now and I just see him doing this bit and think, wow, I mean, no one else would do that. No one else would make that up, grab the makeup woman, make her be his wife, not give a shit and then leave.
1:08:45And it was really funny. So that was my favorite.
1:08:51Hello. Hello. What is your name, please? My name is Brendan. Brendan, how are you? I'm good. I'm also from Worcester. I know your family's from Worcester, Mass. Yeah, they're from Worcester, Mass. Yes. It's a great place. That's not my question. My question is, could you talk a little bit about how you got cast for your cameo in the Weird Al movie and what shooting that was like? That's a good question. About being on set and stuff like that? Well, there was no audition, that's for sure. weird al made this movie and he just was calling people that he knew that he had kind of a connection to and i love weird al and he'd been on our show many times and always been very gracious and i just get this call out of the blue conan will you be in the weird al movie he just he sent me a text and he just said will you be in the weird al movie as um andy warhol and the correct answer to any question like this is yes i just didn't my my philosophy is when someone says hey hey, do you want to do super weird thing?
1:09:45Are you down for it? I just say yes. Oh, I mean, just not long ago, this is just my point, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson were hanging around our offices in the Larchmont area, not too far from here. And I'm chatting with Woody Harrelson and at one point he went, hey, Conan, would you go in 50-50 on a houseboat with me in Amsterdam? What? And I said, yes, I will, Woody Harrelson. What? And I said it because I thought There's a good chance he'll never remember this. But the answer is you don't go, no, I got to talk to my wife. When Woody Harrelson asks you if you're going 50-50 on a houseboat in Amsterdam, the answer is yes, I will.
1:10:24Oh, my God. I've never heard back from him. But I went home and I told my wife we may be going in 50-50 on a houseboat in Amsterdam with Woody Harrelson. She said, what? What do you mean? Where is this houseboat? And I went, don't worry. I don't think it's ever happening. But if it does, we can live off the story forever. That's my dream. and we could just do a whole other podcast called Conan and Woody floating around in Amsterdam oh that went well oh I probably shouldn't say that hi Conan, hi Zona, hi Matt what is your name? Danny that's your brother's name? That is my brother's name oh that is your brother he has a great name I'm very excited to be here I love your work so much and it's very important your work and it's very amazing so just congratulations on the podcast maybe you're being sarcastic no no when you got to the very important part no no it is important because I need a laugh we need a laugh and you guys bring us laugh my question is and for the three of you what is your favorite film and I know this is putting you on the spot but like do you have an answer for that Matt, Sonang and Conan that's a tough question but I think honestly my favorite film is Casino Royale I'll just say it that's a good answer Daniel Craig and you know Bond it's just it makes me I mean it's a hard question for me I do separate it I think I've talked about this I separate it in genres so you know like my favorite comedy is Galaxy Quest my favorite rom-com is Moonstruck my favorite kind of dramedy I guess would be Adaptation I don't know what about famous what's your favorite male stripper movie oh that's a tough one I would say Magic Mike No When Magic Mike came out I just You went missing For a couple of weeks Yeah Well we did a bit Cause I do Go see the midnight shows And then we did a bit Cause Magic Mike 2 came out And we did a bit That one I like more Cause Joe Manganiello Has that very great scene In the liquor store Where he's trying to make The girls smile So he's just like Strip teasing With a bottle of coke And I'm like I get this This is real cinema.
1:12:43Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but I would watch. I would never miss an episode if Sona had a movie critics show. Yes. I would watch it. I would watch it. Well, we've talked about it. I like everything. So I would be like, that was a good movie. There was lighting, and they did it, and someone wrote it, and they shot it. And that's exciting for that. Well, we used to, yeah. Yeah, this happened all the time where on the late night show when we would go and look at movies, you would always come with me and I'd see them. And, you know, whatever. I'm a human being, somewhat discerning. But, you know, so you'd watch things and you'd be like, yeah, that one was okay.
1:13:22And every time we watched anything, Son of a was like, that was fantastic. And I would say, really? You liked Glip Glorp and the Flip Club? And you would say, it didn't cost me anything. and those people made that. They made it and it was on the screen and it started and then two hours later it ended. And now I'm having wine that you're paying for. Yay! That does sound good. It does, it's nice. What about you, Chief? You know, I would say, I think, sometimes I think of it as, and this sounds morbid, but like what's your, like you have like a day to live and I think of it not in a, I think trying to think of it in a positive way.
1:13:59Like it's the end of my life and I get to have, no, but I just get to like, here's what I think of what's the food I want I want like a really good Pinot Noir I want a really good pizza from Naples and I think I want to watch The Godfather and I know that that's a movie that a lot of people say but and if I can get Godfather 1 and 2 and make it one movie oh you can that's definitely my answer it's your last day yeah it's my last day you're going to lose some precious time if you do that please this isn't for four years okay but why are you laughing everyone's laughing everyone's laughing at your death well Let's go ahead and cue up the Godfather.
1:14:34You gotta laugh. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, well, I think we got time for one more. Come on, Willoughby. Hi. Thank you. Hi, my name is Megan. Hey, Megan. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. But nervous. Oh, don't be nervous. We're, as you can tell, we're just... We're just hanging out. We're fools hanging out. Yeah, yeah. We're idiots. Well, yeah, kind of, yeah. My question's for whoever wants to answer, but when you were a kid and somebody would ask you what you wanted to be when you grew up, what would you say? Oh, podcast sidekick.
1:15:14You were in the sandbox. You made yourself a third chair. Yeah. Had a sand. Nailed it. A little pine cone for a microphone. Spoke once every 14 minutes. What about you, Sona? What did you want to be? I know this might be shocking. I didn't have very many ambitions. You were blazing up at four years old, right? I honestly, like, looking back on it, I don't think I was ever like, oh, I can't wait to be a doctor. Thank God. Well, Sona, you lost another one. What are you going to do? He had a full life. He was 26. He came in for a hernia operation. You killed him. Well. Who's up for some Margies? Margies.
1:16:08Post-op Margies. No, I don't. I really didn't have any, like, I know it's sad, but I was just kind of like, eh, that sounds cool. I'll try that. I know I wanted to work in TV. That's the only thing I really loved. So I knew that. But I didn't know what. Right. So I did it. Yeah. I am. Check. Yeah. Yeah. You did do it.
1:16:35I wanted to, when I was a kid, I really did want to be an entertainer. And I've said this before, but back then, pre-streaming and just three television stations and not great reception, you just watched what was on. And mostly what was on Channel 38 or Channel 56 were old movies because that's what they ran. Because they didn't have enough content. And so I grew up watching old movies and old musicals. And I thought that's what entertainment was. So in like the 19, late 1970s, I was thinking, I need to know how to tap dance. I need to learn how to talk real fast in an old time voice. You know, I need to get like one of those straw hats and say, hey, you, let's get over here.
1:17:15There's a fire at MacReady's Barn. Let's go. You know, and then like, I better know a few tunes, you know, and button up your overcoat when the wind blows free. Take good care of yourself. You belong to me. Odeo, odeo. And then I'd go to school and do this shit and the beatings would commence. Here's this kid with a bull haircut. Hey, everybody. My name's Conan. That's a cool name. Ladies, line up and I'll kiss you later. Button up your robocall. And then all these kids, you know, from Somerville and stuff would just be like, oh, I'll beat him first. You beat him second. They had meetings. I didn't know.
1:17:55I wanted to be a bully when I grew up until I saw this guy. They had conversations. He inspired me to be a bully. Yeah. They were very organized bullies. Here's how we're going to do it. Jason, you're first. Chrissy, you're second. Yeah, exactly. I'll hit him primarily in the throat. Soft tissue.
1:18:18I love bullies having a conversation. Bullies. Really organized bullies. They have a flow chart of how it's going to work. They've prepared. Visually. Yeah. Everybody look at your handout. And I'm in the corner. Fellas, hurry it up. You're just standing there. I've got tap dancing lessons to get to. These toes are ready to twinkle.
1:18:46All right. You've been a great crowd. This has been a lot of fun. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
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