In short
Conan O’Brien revisits his 5-year-old “fan episode” with wrestler Danhausen, celebrating Danhausen’s WWE debut and rehashing how Danhausen’s character was inspired by Conan as an interdimensional demon. The episode also includes comedic discussion of “bullspend” marketing, ad targeting claims (LinkedIn ROAS/credit), and multiple sponsor reads (Grainger, Macy’s, Prime Day, Disney/Hulu/HBO Max bundle, Miller Lite, McCafé, Sprouts).
Guests
Danhausen (professional wrestler; character “very nice, very evil”; based loosely on Conan as a demon; 8 years of 12-hour-weekend commuting grind; WWE debut). Conan O’Brien (host). Also mentioned: Rick Rosen (WME) and Gavin Pallone.
Key claims/examples
Danhausen’s character success came after switching to goofy, Simpsons/horror-referential performance; signature moves include “good night Housen,” pouring “human teeth” into opponents’ mouths, and kneeing in the face. He cites Hot Topic and TV signing as momentum.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to the Episode
0:00 to 0:40
Conan discusses the excitement of investing in ideas that don't deliver.
“Ever invest in something that seemed incredible at first, but didn't live up to the hype?”
Celebrating Five Years with Dan Housen
1:20 to 2:58
Conan reflects on the anniversary of a fan episode featuring Dan Housen, sharing insights about hard work and success.
“Well, we have come up on a very nice anniversary.”
Introduction to the Fan Revisit
2:58 to 3:37
Conan introduces a revisit of his chat with Dan Housen from five years ago.
“Well, I will once I unleash my interdimensional demons.”
The Concept of Making Friends
3:37 to 4:40
Conan shares his desire to connect with everyday people, not just celebrities.
“Hey everybody, Conan O 'Brien here, and we're going to try something a little different.”
Planning the New Segment
4:40 to 6:16
Discussion about Conan's plans to engage with civilians and the concept behind it.
“It's very important to me that eventually they become celebrities.”
Meeting Donovan, the Professional Wrestler
6:16 to 7:00
Donovan, a minor league wrestler, talks about his background and character.
“This is Conan O 'Brien Needs a Fan, and it'll be out weekly in addition to the regular episodes, so just an extra special treat.”
Describing the Wrestling Character
7:00 to 8:10
Conan and Donovan discuss the traits and persona of a demonic wrestling character.
“So Donovan, you are a professional wrestler, is that right?”
Describing the Wrestling Character
9:56 to 11:15
Conan and Donovan discuss the traits and persona of a demonic wrestling character.
“Check out Macy's online gift guide for more ideas at macy's.com slash gift guide.”
Describing the Wrestling Character
11:19 to 12:28
Conan and Donovan discuss the traits and persona of a demonic wrestling character.
“So much I'm looking forward to this summer.”
Wrestling Moves and Character Traits
12:39 to 13:20
Discussion between Conan and Donovan about wrestling moves and character traits.
“96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.”
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The Art of Wrestling Performance
13:20 to 14:00
Conan and Donovan discuss the blend of athleticism and entertainment in wrestling.
“It's just, I think it's the presentation because I take a lot of like Simpsons references and references from you and just 80s horror movies and I pull it all together because these are the things that I like.”
Exploring Dan Housen's Wrestling Persona
14:00 to 18:10
Learn about the unique character and humor of Dan Housen in wrestling.
“and I add Housen to everything to make it all about me.”
Conan's Desire to Join Dan Housen
18:10 to 19:10
Conan expresses a strong interest in participating in Dan Housen's wrestling world.
“that's the reaction I always think I'm gonna get.”
Wrap-Up and Goodbye
19:10 to 19:58
The hosts conclude their conversation and say their goodbyes.
“but I love Canadians and I think they're like the funniest, one of the funniest countries in the world.”
Wrap-Up and Goodbye
20:52 to 22:19
The hosts conclude their conversation and say their goodbyes.
“Many times you'd buy, you and I would be in the car together and you would say, let's hit McDonald's.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Ever invest in something that seemed incredible at first, but didn't live up to the hype? Yeah, like all the time. Yeah, I did that with an all-potato restaurant. Oh, no.
0:14Marketers know that feeling. They optimize for the numbers that look great, like impressions, but then they don't see revenue. You know what I'm talking about, don't you, Sonia? Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, LinkedIn has a word for that, bullspend. Bullspend. Yeah, instead you can get the highest ROAS of major ad networks with LinkedIn ads. Cut the bull spend. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend$250 and get a$250 credit. Go to LinkedIn.com slash Conan. Terms apply. Grainger knows when you're a procurement manager for an office park, you're not managing one building. You're managing all of them. And to stay ahead, you need to see through walls and around corners.
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1:20Well, we have come up on a very nice anniversary. Hard to believe, but five years ago this month, we did our very first fan episode. And it's been five years. I can't believe it. And I really love these segments. And the very first one featured a fan of mine named Dan Housen. Now, Dan Housen is a wrestler. And he explained to me when we did this very first fan episode that he had loosely based his character, his wrestling character, on me if I was an interdimensional demon. which seems redundant to me and dan hauser and i had a great conversation we talked about comedy performance the love of entertaining people and what struck me and still i remember this to this day dan hausen told me that he had been grinding away for the past eight years driving 12 hours every weekend just be able to get up in front of people and wrestle and this is a guy who just applied an incredible work ethic to his passion.
2:19And I was so impressed with this fellow. Well, now it's five years later and I am thrilled to report that Dan Housen has recently made his WWE debut to rave reviews. And this is proof again that if you can marry hard work to your passion, you can go places. So on behalf of myself and all of us here at Team Coco, massive congratulations and mad respect to Dan Housen. And I'm so proud of you, happy for you. And I just should mention, because your character's based on me, I'm getting 20%. Oh, are you getting 20 %? Well, I will once I unleash my interdimensional demons. Rick Rosen from William Morris Endeavor and the blackest, blackest heart of all, Gavin Pallone.
3:15I mean, when they're done with Dan Housen, he's just going to be some flesh clinging to a battered vertebrae. Yes. Anyway, I'm just thrilled for him. So here, this is unusual for us. We're going to revisit my chat from five years ago with the one, the only Dan Housen. Enjoy. Conan O 'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hey everybody, Conan O 'Brien here, and we're going to try something a little different. In this short time that I've been doing, Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend. I've just been delighted. I'm having an absolute blast, and it's working.
4:01I'm actually making some nice bonds and friendships with a lot of different people. But what occurred to me is all these people have one thing in common, they're celebrities. and I thought it might be nice to try making friends with average folk, people out there in the world, civilians, not celebrities. Just talk to the people who make this great country we call the United States of America or even people from other countries, it doesn't matter. Let's just talk to some regular folk and then hope, hope desperately that they become celebrities. Oh my God. That's the concept. What do you guys think, Matt?
4:41Yeah, I'm all in. Why is that horrible? It's very important to me that eventually they become celebrities. So you don't have time for anybody that would live their whole life as a regular Joe. As a folk. Who would do that? What kind of monster would choose that life? No, seriously, I really do. I do want to, and especially, I have to say, a lot of this comes out of this last year. Let's get outside this bubble, this celebrity bubble that we're trapped in. I'm not trapped in a celebrity bubble. No, I'm not even adjacent to it. Oh God, no. I didn't mean either of you. Oh God, no. Oh, no, no, no.
5:18Oh, please. Oh, how embarrassing. Oh, I'm covering my mouth. I'm laughing. Because I mean, we don't even do a podcast with a celebrity. So how would we do? Oh, snap. Snappity-dappity. Ouchie-wouchie. I'm looking it up. It's death stare. I'm looking it up. I am looking it up. Yes, I am a celebrity. I just looked it up. You Googled it? Yeah, I am a B-lister, but I am a celebrity. So, fuck, are you? I am a solid B. I'm a solid B-list celebrity and I'm proud of it. And if Love Boat were still on the air, I could potentially be a guest. Not the first guest, but like the third guest, who's the comic relief guest who stowed away.
6:04I would kill to see you on Love Boat. Yes. But anyway, this is something I want to do, and I'm really looking forward to it. And I don't know. We're just going to give it a try and see how it goes. Yeah. This is Conan O 'Brien Needs a Fan, and it'll be out weekly in addition to the regular episodes, so just an extra special treat. And we might as well get to our first guest. Are you guys ready? Yeah. I am very ready. Conan, please meet Donovan, who is a minor league professional wrestler. Wow. Donovan, very nice to talk to you. Where are you coming from, Donovan? Where are you? I am in Michigan right now from Montreal.
6:41Do you consider yourself a Canadian? No, no, I'm from Michigan. Oh, you're from Michigan. Yeah. Sorry. I probably said that wrong. My wife is from Montreal. Wait, I'm confused already. You're from Michigan. You've married someone who's from Montreal. Yes, exactly. Okay. So I'm in the process of getting my permanent residency there. Oh, okay. You're going to move to Montreal. I'm going, yes. Okay. Well, that's all the time we have. Thanks.
7:09So Donovan, you are a professional wrestler, is that right? Yes. Okay, now help me because I know of a type of professional wrestler that has a character and I don't know, are you a professional wrestler who's really wrestling and using wrestling moves and it's not that fun to watch? Or are you a wrestler who's also kind of a performer and has a character? I am a character. Actually, I have a picture if you want to see it. It's a - Oh my God. Okay. Well, we are a podcast, so I'm going to describe it. You're sort of demonic looking. You just showed me a picture of what looked like a very fierce, evil, demonic wrestler.
7:48Yes. So I go by the moniker, very nice, very evil, because nobody likes somebody who's too evil. So I introduced the nice part of it. So then they buy into it and I can trick them. Okay. Very nice, very evil. Often I get described if somebody, a demon possessed you actually. Oh, a demon possessed me. If Conan O 'Brien was possessed by a demon, that's what it gets described as. Cause I'm heavily influenced by you rather than other wrestlers. Yes. You mean of the wrestlers, I'm the one that's influenced you the most. Yes, yes, of course. That's fantastic.
8:31Well, Father's Day is coming up. Hint, hint. June 21st. Wow. We're not your children. What? My children are not getting me anything, so it's up to you guys to get me Father's Day. They have never bought into Father's Day, but you guys are going to. You're my employees and you have to. Well, guess what? Luckily, Macy's has a wide range of options, the expertise to help you find the perfect gift. Macy's is the answer for Father's Day. David, as my sort of surrogate son. Okay, aw, that's nice. The son that I hired to buy me things. I hope that you're prepared for this Father's Day and I hope you've consulted Macy's.
9:14Oh, I sure, I have done both of those things. First. Oh, there you go. You love a pun. We got you a shirt that says The Grillfather. I love that shirt because you know what? I love the Godfather movies and I love grilling and they've combined them with The Grillfather. And are you ready to combine it even more? Let's see the next gift. Ooh. A ninja indoor grill. That's just something that looks really good. It does. And then, you know, sometimes when you're grilling, you know, you might want to get rid of that scent, that smell. So we got you some Dior cologne. Oh, is that Sauvage? It's Sauvage.
9:44Oh, my God. I love Sauvage. And I love that it does mask the scent of charred meat really well. Yeah. So happy Father's Day from us and Macy's. You know what? I want to say thank you. Those are cool gifts. I love it. Check out Macy's online gift guide for more ideas at macy's.com slash gift guide. Getting a good deal is kind of a big deal. Would you agree, Sona? Such a big deal. Yeah. So get this. Prime Day is coming June 23rd through the 26th with all the best deals you've been waiting for. Prime Day delivers more than great prices. It delivers the big deal feeling. Upgrade that old mattress.
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11:21So much I'm looking forward to this summer. Me too. You know what I'm talking about? But first of all, July 4th is going to be the 250th anniversary of the United States of America. That's a big deal. And just as important, some pretty big soccer games headed our way. Sport. I don't want to get too specific, but let's say some pretty big soccer games are coming our way. On a global scale. On a global scale. That's all we'll say. So much to celebrate this summer. So you got to keep a classic with Miller Lite. Miller Lite has been a true American pilsner and the original light beer since 1975. Were you even alive then?
11:55No, I was not. Yeah. I don't think, I think that's good because you couldn't handle the beginning of the Miller Lite era. No. It's too, it's too iconic. Okay. Here's my summer. Okay. Yeah. Hang with my buddies. Yeah. Hey, this is a really good iconic soccer game that's happening that unifies all the different nations of the world. What is it? I don't have time to tell you, but let's have some Miller Lite. Clean, finished, refreshing, easy to drink. and when it's hot outside, nothing feels better going down than an icy, cool Miller Lite. It's an all-American summer and it starts with all-American beer, Miller Lite.
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12:48Describe then a demonic Conan O 'Brien as a wrestling character. What, what are you using some of my moves? Is it my attitude? Does your character have, you know, sort of little beady eyes and thin lips and sharp cheekbones? Yes. Yeah. I don't have the height, but I have, I utilize, so I pour teeth in my opponent's mouths to disorient them. Pour what in their mouth? Teeth, human teeth. You pour human teeth into the mouth? I love how people see that and go, oh, that is so Conan. That is. No, no, no. It's just, I think it's the presentation because I take a lot of like Simpsons references and references from you and just 80s horror movies and I pull it all together because these are the things that I like.
13:35So I included it into the character because wrestling should be fun. Yes, wrestling should. It shouldn't be work. Yeah. No, no. So, okay. One of your standard moves is to pour loose teeth into the mouth of your opponent to confuse and disorient them. What are some of your other moves? Kick them right in the mouth. I have the go to sleep, which I call the good night Housen. I add Housen. My wrestling name is Dan Housen and I add Housen to everything to make it all about me. That's very Conan. Okay, that's very nice, Matt, yeah. I love that, you just add a Hausen to things, so goodnight Hausen is like a goodnight move.
14:13Yes, and I pop them up off my shoulders and I knee them in the face, that's my finishing. Well, you knee them in the face, Hausen. The face, yes, exactly. Sorry. Like if I were talking to you, I'd call you Conan Hausen. I add Hausen to the end of ending. Uh-huh, uh-huh. This is fantastic. I'm delighted by you. I'm delighted by this foolishness and that you've, like me, dedicated your life to absolute idiocy. This is fantastic. Now, are you a good wrestler? Are you a good athlete? Yeah, but that doesn't matter. No one cared when I was just a good wrestler. They cared once I switched and put on makeup and started acting goofy and doing Simpsons references in the middle of matches and like I stole the Mr.
14:57Burns hop in. I brought a tiny airplane to the ring and I told my opponent to hop in and I had three, 400 people chanting, hop in at this guy. How successful have you been? It sounds like, is this growing? Do you feel like Dan Housen is becoming a bigger and bigger character? Yes, absolutely. Since I've switched this, which is about two years ago and about a year full of doing this actual character, I've been wrestling for eight years. Once, since I've switched this, it's just like snowballed more and more and more. And now I have a certain hot topic and I've gotten signed to like a TV company and they're just like, go do your weird stuff.
15:37Like do it. Have fun, be Dan Housen. That's what we need. I want to be a part of Dan Housen's world. You know, don't you see that Matt and Sona? Like I want to maybe do some sort of, I want to tape a video. I seriously want to do something where you're in the ring and then I appear and I'm either for you or against you. Do you know what I mean? Or you're my long lost son. We've gotta somehow get into, I wanna get into the lore of Danhausen. Do you know what I mean? I wanna be part of it. What would you do with me? Oh, with you, I would call us both legendary ladies. For one. Guess what? There's a lot of those now.
16:17There's literally like 600 in America. So he might wanna come up with something cooler. This character is all about himself. He's all about making sacks of money. I call them. Yes. I carry around a money sack. I pulled it out after I won my contract on TV and I revealed it from my cape. I pulled a$20 bill and I said, look at these millions. And I threw it. Would we actually fight? And first of all, you know, I know how to handle myself. Wait a minute. Oh, come on, Sona. I'm fairly athletic. I can take a punch and I love to fake fight. And so if I entered the ring, would we start out being friends, but then I would think that you had gotten too cocky and I would attack Dan Housen?
17:04What would happen? Yeah, maybe. I think I do this thing where I try to punch people in the groin right before the bell rings so I can just pin them without doing any work. So I don't think I would do that because people know that I love Conan. Like as a character, it's very public that I love Conan. And that's one of Dan Housen's idols. So I don't think they would think that. They'd probably be taken back if you did it. Okay, how about this? Let me pitch you this, because I'm really into this. All right, so Dan Housen, you're fighting your foe. He starts to get the better of you. He starts to win.
17:34He grabs the bag of teeth and starts to pour them into your mouth. He steals your sack of money. He punches you in the groin. It's all going badly. When all of a sudden the music changes, fog machines go on, and I appear, I come down on wires. and it's me and I'm there to save Danhausen. And - I think the crowd would go nuts. I hope so. What if the crowd's just like, all right, okay. There's Conan, I guess. Let's see what he's got. All right, let's go. If we go early, we can beat the traffic. In my mind before I go on, that's what I think, that's the reaction I always think I'm gonna get. If I leave now, I can beat the traffic.
18:16I want in on the Danhausen world. I really do, Donovan. Yeah, well, I would love that if that's a possibility. That's like the ultimate guest for Goodnight Hausen with Dan Hausen. You know what? I've always said, if there's a way that I can be involved with Goodnight Hausen with Dan Hausen, I want in Hausen and right now Hausen. Not tomorrow Hausen, but today Hausen. I'm not fucking around Hausen, I'm serious Hausen. So let's make this happen Hausen. Let's sign a contract Hausen. I want to get paid Hausen. Yes, we'll pay you in a wonderful sacks of human money. There's only one kind of money. There's only human money.
18:58No animal uses money. He has no idea. Uh-huh, uh-huh. He just knows it gets you power. Yeah, wow. That's very exciting. Well, you know what? I think you're gonna do well. I love that you're going to Canada because I don't say this just to suck up to Canada, but I love Canadians and I think they're like the funniest, one of the funniest countries in the world. They're really funny people. So I think, and they really love nuanced, like weird kooky comedy and they've always been so nice to me. So I love that you're going to Montreal. I think that's great. Thank you. Yeah, it's been exciting and a lot of work.
19:31Donovan, you have my blessing and I will figure out a way to enter the world of Danhausen. I will. Please do. I would lose my mind and so would my fans. It'd be crazy. All right. Well, Sona, you make sure, Oh, I will follow up on this. Yes, we'll follow up on this. I'm really excited about it. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. Hey, really nice to meet you, Donovan. Nice meeting you too. Nice meeting all of you. All right, bye-bye. Thanks, Donovan. Conan O 'Brien Needs a Fan with Conan O 'Brien, Sonam Ovcesian, and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley.
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