In short
Ice Cube (founder of N.W.A.) discusses comedy and storytelling in his music and films, his path from writing to acting, and the creation of his three-on-three basketball league Big3.
Guest backgrounds
Ice Cube is a founding member of N.W.A., known for Straight Outta Compton and films including Boys in the Hood, Barbershop, Friday, and Ride Along. He also founded Big3, a pro-style three-on-three league now in its ninth season (streaming on Paramount Plus/CBS and also on Fubo). The host is Conan O’Brien; Sona Movsesian is also present.
Key claims
Comedy was always part of Ice Cube’s upbringing and N.W.A.’s approach—keeping messages “hard” while adding humor and dark one-liners. He says he fell in love with filmmaking after Boys in the Hood and began writing (Friday was his third script). He describes Big3 as filling the post-NBA summer sports gap and requiring all-around skills, including a four-point shot from special circles.
Notable examples
The “call a Lyft” prank remote with Conan and Kevin Hart; N.W.A. planning for local fame but exploding after Straight Outta Compton; Ice Cube’s son O’Shea Jackson Jr. auditioning to play him; Big3’s four-point circles rule.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWidow's Bay Discussion
0:00 to 0:40
A conversation about the new horror comedy series 'Widow's Bay' and its Emmy nominations.
“Everyone is talking about Matthew Rhys' new horror comedy series Widow's Bay on Apple TV, which was just nominated for 19 Emmy Awards.”
Contact Lenses and Comedy
2:10 to 10:10
A humorous discussion about experiences with contact lenses and medical advice.
“There we go Instead we have Sonam Obsessian Hi That makes me feel more comfortable Yeah, yeah How are you guys?”
Ice Cube's Career Reflections
10:10 to 11:30
Ice Cube reflects on his career and past collaborations with Conan.
“Yeah, but he's not going to be on blades, like, you know, like, you know, like the, like the Paralympian.”
Chemistry and Comedy in Projects
11:30 to 14:00
Discussion on the chemistry between Conan and Ice Cube during their past projects.
“A bunch of years ago, we shot this goofy remote.”
Chemistry and Comedy in Music
14:00 to 14:38
Explore the chemistry between artists and the blend of humor in their music.
The Intersection of Comedy and Hard Messages
14:39 to 19:06
Ice Cube discusses how humor was integrated into serious rap lyrics.
“You were a great writer, a great rapper.”
From Writing to Performing: Ice Cube's Journey
19:07 to 22:01
Ice Cube shares his early experiences with writing and performing rap.
“It's unpredictability in the hood, which you don't know what day is going to be.”
From Writing to Performing: Ice Cube's Journey
26:27 to 26:45
Ice Cube shares his early experiences with writing and performing rap.
“They happen on the open road, out on the water, or parked under the stars.”
Influences of Muhammad Ali and Early Rap Culture
26:56 to 28:00
Discussion on how Muhammad Ali's persona resonates with rap culture.
“I've watched tons of the footage on him.”
The Roots of Rap and Culture
28:00 to 29:08
Explore the origins of rap as a form of expression and its cultural significance.
“becomes the first rapper because he, it wasn't, it wasn't just rapping in a way.”
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N.W.A's Surprising Rise to Fame
29:08 to 30:46
Learn how N.W.A transitioned from an underground group to national fame unexpectedly.
“Yeah, and you can sort of channel all of that, which is fascinating to me.”
FBI Letters and Naivety
30:46 to 32:07
Discover how the band reacted to FBI threats and their youthful perspective on publicity.
“Then the record, Brian Turner at Priority Records calls us, you got to get up here.”
Reflections on 'Straight Outta Compton'
32:07 to 33:02
Discuss the accuracy and cultural impact of the movie 'Straight Outta Compton'.
“That's interesting that Eazy-E's a fascinating guy that in that moment he could see, this isn't a bad thing.”
Making a Universal Movie
33:02 to 34:24
Understand the intention behind creating a relatable narrative in the N.W.A film.
“movie did you feel that was a pretty accurate uh representation because when you guys hit you you go on this tour yeah and the tour just looked like the fall of rome it's just it's It was damn near that.”
Ice Cube and Family in Film
34:24 to 37:16
Hear Ice Cube's experience navigating his son's journey into acting.
“You got to, like, become an actor and, like, audition.”
The Evolution of Ice Cube's Career
37:16 to 42:00
Explore Ice Cube's transition from music to a successful acting career and production.
“and I was happy that he just got bit by the bug and he just started to you know kind of fall in love with the process and then I had to convince Gary Gray you know when I told him I said I want my son to play me.”
Ice Cube's Journey to Filmmaking
42:00 to 43:54
Learn about Ice Cube's unexpected transition into writing and filmmaking.
“Yeah, I'm like, you know, I'm still not sure I can act.”
The Importance of Humor and Performance
43:54 to 46:12
Discover how humor and performance blend in different art forms, including music and skits.
“And a movie, you know, two hours of, you know, whatever story you need to tell.”
Introducing the Big Three Basketball League
46:12 to 48:26
Find out about Ice Cube's Big Three basketball league and its unique format.
“You started out, but you've been working on it since like 2017, I think.”
Innovative Ideas for Sports
48:26 to 52:36
Hear Ice Cube's creative concepts for improving sports formats and gameplay.
“Well, it is amateur sports, but ours feel more like the NBA, more like a pro experience.”
Lighthearted Banter
56:01 to 56:34
The hosts share a light-hearted conversation about traditions.
“You know, anytime, man, just, you still throwing up in your mouth a little bit, talking to me, but I'm good.”
Lighthearted Banter
57:14 to 58:06
The hosts share a light-hearted conversation about traditions.
“For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.”
Conan's Event Experience
58:15 to 1:01:08
Conan recounts his experience at the Obama presidential library opening.
“If you're listening, I'm sure there is a way for you to access video.”
Sunburn and Scalp Woes
1:01:08 to 1:03:09
Conan humorously describes suffering from a sunburned scalp after the event.
“I walk over and I see Stephen Colbert, David Letterman.”
Greaseball Transformation
1:03:09 to 1:07:53
The hosts discuss Conan's new greasy hair look and the changes it brings.
“I'm one of the Thunderbirds that is easily 55 years old.”
Transcript
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1:17Yo, what's up? My name is Ice Cube. and I feel like I'm about to throw up in my mouth
1:30about my homie Conan O 'Brien. You can't even say my name. You're so disgusted. That's how you feel about being his friend. Wow, that's incredible.
1:43Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring the bell. Brand new shoes, walking blues Climb the fence, books and pens I can tell that we are gonna be friends Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends Hey there and welcome to Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend I'm blessed with two good friends Oh But they're not with us now There we go Instead we have Sonam Obsessian Hi That makes me feel more comfortable Yeah, yeah How are you guys? I'm good Everyone good? I'm doing all right. How are you doing? I'm doing okay. I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. You ever wear contacts, Sona? I all, I've been wearing contacts since I was like 12.
2:27I started trying it recently. Yeah, we know. Just out of convenience. And I'm doing it more and more now. Yeah. And I don't know. What was your experience with them? You were struggling at first. I really struggled because I'm eye phobic. I was fine. I'm eye phobic. I don't like things getting near my eye. And then suddenly the people would say, oh, it's easy. just jam this onto your eyeball. This reminds me we were going to do a whole thing where you brought your contacts in and tried to get you to put them in. Remember we talked about this and we were going to do a follow-up. Now I've gotten good so it wouldn't even be a good segment anymore.
3:00Now they come in, they go out, I put them on. What's weird is the one on the right, my right eye is for reading and the left is for slight correction on the distance. Is that how you read like this? I know. They told me, oh, you get used to it. Wow. Is that what people do? Or am I being sold a bag of hash? I don't know. I think they had two leftover contact lenses. You're saying I got scammed. I think they did go. And I did notice when I left, everyone was laughing. Yeah. One of them is a colored contact lens. Can I tell you, if I did see you come into my office, I would say anything just to upsell you.
3:41So like, I feel like sometimes. And I did a lot of bits that day. You did. I was there. I don't know. We talked about this, but I went in hot. I was doing so many bits for everybody in the waiting room. I was killing. Yeah. And to the point where I just kept wanting to go back out to the waiting room to do more bits. And they were saying, we need to keep we've just put something in your eye some to dilate it. You've got to settle down. And I'm like, no, no, I didn't get that lady in the corner. She's tough, but I'll get her. It was insanity. Yeah. Well, I think that what I'm saying is like they maybe they did that to you and they don't normally so that both eyes get worse.
4:17So you have to keep going back to the eye doctor's office. And they know you're like needy and you need to get that woman in the corner. So you keep going back and then they keep upselling you. Yeah. They were telling me, oh, so this is interesting. This is what businesses could start doing. Putting a plant in whose job is not to laugh at anything. Notice the bookshelves were lined with Robert Caro books. too. Yeah. No, have someone who doesn't laugh and I'll just keep coming back to your tire store and buying more winter tires in Los Angeles, you know, tractor tires, every kind of tire. And that's the trick to get me to come in.
4:59They want me to come to their restaurant, just hire one waiter who just never gives it up. And I'll go back every night. Hey, You know, why the chicken cross the road? Yeah, I would totally upsell you all the time. You're also very trusting. I feel like you just believe people. Okay, do you think that that's, I'm asking the general community of ophthalmologists. I have one contact on my right eye, which is a completely different strength magnification than the one on the left. Is that crazy? And I keep crashing my car now. Well, both eyes are never, not never, but they're not usually the same.
5:36Right, right. But it's weird that one is for reading and one is not. They made the case that your brain figures it out and then you start. Eduardo, you're nodding. What do you know about this? You want to hear something really hilarious? My ophthalmologist just called me as you guys were having this conversation. But anyhow. Let's ask the question. I almost answered so that you could ask the ophthalmologist. But anyhow, no, it's completely normal. your brain tricks your eyes into settling, in your case, adjusting to one being different. So this will adjust. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I think it already kind of has.
6:10Did you ever have progressive or bifocals? Because you get used to that too. Yeah, I did. I got used to that. Yeah. Okay, so I just wanted to put it out there. Sometimes I like to use the podcast to just discuss my medical maladies and see if I can get free advice. Yeah, yeah, fact check. Yeah, someone will call in and go, no, actually, you know, that's a pretty wise course of action. Or else, no, you've been played for a fool. Your eyes are bleeding, we should tell you. Oh, they always bled. They always bled. Yeah. Yeah. But I would lie just to make you keep coming back. Like, if I was your dentist, I'd be like, you need braces.
6:44And then I would sell you braces. I would like... Just to see me, and giant headgear? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, hold on, welcome. I'm kind of like, I need some fun. And the neck brace, and then I'm like, I don't have a date for the prom. Put your hands up here like this. I'm in my early 60s and I don't have a wait for the prom. What about, well, this is really fascinating. The other thing I thought I could do is get a monocle. Oh, God. For reading. Really? Can you imagine if I had a monocle? Because one of the things, when I got glasses, I was so happy because you can do bits with them. If I had a monocle and it had one of those like strings on it.
7:20Yeah. And, you know, like Colonel Clink and Hogan's Heroes, I just had a monocle in this eye for reading. But then if anyone said anything slightly shocking, it could drop out, which is, you know. Just for the bit you want it, you're saying. I want it for the bit. More and more, if I thought there were a lot of good bits to like a prosthetic foot, I would have my foot taken. Oh my God, Conan! Why don't you start with a monocle? Start with a monocle. Yeah, start with a monocle. There are a lot of bits to one leg. I'd just, it'd be so much, oh my God, I don't have a leg to stand on and I'll pull my foot off.
7:52And then that, even those people that were hired not to laugh at me, they still laugh. Oh my God, let me put my foot down. Let me put my foot down. What else is there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do some soul searching. Found it! I mean, these are good bits. What a heel. Yeah, whatever, you know, look at this. You're liking it, the podcast would - I'm in. How many times it would come across, it would help the podcast? My grandpa had one leg. What's that? He did? Dede, my, yeah, my key called Dede. No, no, not that Dede. How many Dede's do you have? I have two, I had two Dede's. I don't know in your crazy culture what you got.
8:30Maybe you got seven. Most people, everybody has two like grandpas biologically. Well, you didn't have two Dede's, I had two grandpas. Well, I had two Dede's. Well, stop that. So one of the Dede's. Isn't one Dede and the other like Dede or something? No, one is one, they're both Dede's, but one of the Dede's didn't live that long. So he's dead. The dead Dede?
8:50I had a key cord dede, which was my dad's dede. I mean, my dad's dad. Your dad's dad's dede. I had a Tanya dede, who was my mom's dad. Okay. No, fuck you. That's gnarly. You wish you had a dede. Hey, my grandpa had one leg, too. He also had the other one. Okay, nice. Nice. You know what? This might be the best intro ever, but Sona, he had one leg. Why did he have one leg? Because he had diabetes. and they had to cut one. And he had a wooden leg. It's better if they fall asleep on a train track. That's a better story. That's better than diabetes? Yeah, diabetes is just like, oh, that's no fun. But the train track is gruesome.
9:26But it's a better story. Oh, yeah, you're right. And from now on, just say, well, he was a hobo for a while and he fell asleep on the train track. But just one leg. Oh, his blood sugar was a little out of alignment. That's not good. Yeah, but he had like one of the wooden ones. Whoa. What? Yeah, yeah, like a wooden leg. Now they're cool. Did you ever buy him a parrot? That'd just be a fun thing. No, I didn't buy Dede a parrot. Okay, so he had a wooden leg. Fuck you. He had a wooden leg? He had a wooden leg. Did it bend in the middle? No, his leg was cut at the knee, and then he would sometimes take it off to show us his stuff.
9:59It was made of wood. Was this like 1911? It was the 80s. Dede was alive in the 80s. I know, they had better stuff than wood then. No, they didn't. Did they? Yeah, they did. Did they? Yeah, but he's not going to be on blades, like, you know, like, you know, like the, like the Paralympian. That'd be great if your dead had been on a blade. So one leg walked at about two miles an hour and the other leg went 65 miles an hour. So all he did was go in, all he did was go in circles really fast. But a roller blade. Oh my God. Yeah, no. I swear to God, there's an opening to the podcast here somewhere. But anyway, yeah, can you imagine if I had one blade on my, And then I had a different contact and one eye.
10:43No, monocle and headgear and braces. There we go. We wrapped it all up. You'd be the coolest guy in the world. That was nicely done. Here he comes. Doing, doing, doing, doing, doing. I can't see where I am. And I can't see where I was. My guest today. Settle down. My guest today is a founding member of the legendary rap group NWA. And has appeared. There's no way. I can't believe this is the intro for him. And has appeared in the legendary rap group N.W.A. And has appeared in such movies as Boys in the Hood and Barbershop. He also founded the three-on-three basketball league. This sounds cool.
11:21Big Three, which is currently in its ninth season and can be streamed on Paramount Plus. And Fubo, very excited to chat with him today. I always love my time with this gentleman.
11:36Ice Cube, welcome.
11:41A bunch of years ago, we shot this goofy remote. We didn't think anything was going to happen. You, me, Kevin Hart. I can't go anywhere in the world without people coming up to me and talking about us with the Lyft driver. And then we shot another one with a student driver where we ended up downtown buying weed. Yeah. The good old days. The good old days. I think just one of those has like 120 million views. I go anywhere. And what's funny is people think that I do that with you all the time. People are like, how's Cube? And I said, well, yesterday I was driving around. That was like this. We did it twice.
12:21It was really fun. And I had known you because you came on the show a lot. We always had great chemistry. But we did that thing. It blew up. I think half of it is you and Kevin just making fun of me. Which was, people seem to enjoy that. It was totally improv, which was so cool. When I heard, I said, we're doing Conan on a Saturday? How? He's like, no, we're going to do a skit. I'm like, well, what's the skit? We're just looking for pages. No, no pages. You guys are going to just, since you're doing a movie called Ride Along, you guys are just going to call a lift. And it wasn't set up. The guy didn't know it was going to be us.
13:01We called a lift. Call a lift. they rushed the guy you know I think they gave him you know $120 or something put all these cameras in his car and we jumped in and had fun I was like I said Conan is being cheap man we don't have no script we just we just we just gonna do some shit so it was it was funny because it was so real Yeah, it was very real. And, you know, you can't script stuff like that. And you kept saying you wanted to put me out on the street as a male prostitute. You kept saying, let's turn him out. We'll make some good money. Good money? Good money. Well, they'd make money. Money?
13:50Well, they might get like a chicken as barter. They might get sick of trade something. Have you seen the hoes on Santa Monica lately? He would have made some money He would have made some money If they making money Oh man No just great chemistry And we've done a bunch of things over the years I love You were Oh shit That's your agent saying I tried to cancel the Conan thing I tried to get you out I know you said no It's too late I'm already here man all right i just want to get out of here you're fired
14:37you know what it's so funny to me because it's it's fascinating to me that clearly people that are funny were always funny so you play comedy so well you must have always been funny and it's funny because when you first it's interesting because when you first showed up on the scene with N.W.A., Straight Outta Compton. You show up. You didn't have to be funny at all. You were a great writer, a great rapper. You're part of this revolutionary group. But pretty soon afterwards, you must start realizing, I can do comedy. Yeah, well, you know, people always talk about the Eazy-E record that started it all, Boys in the Hood.
15:19Yeah. But on the flip side of that, it was a song called, I got a fat girl on my job. It was just a rap about him running from a fat girl in the neighborhood. And it was funny. People laughed. So we knew our message was hard, but we also wanted to figure out ways to sprinkle some comedy in it. NWA was real hard, but actually the Eazy-E record full of, you know, kind of comedies, you know, little one-liners, you know, and we knew we wanted to be hard but entertaining at the same time. It's interesting because rap has always had skits, like little sketches, and even in the hardest lyrics, there's really funny insults.
16:16Yeah, dark humor for sure. Really dark humor. Goddamn, man. Jesus. he's trying to get his job back he's got there get out of there you still fired
16:29you've got nine phones um but yeah so because your first movie boys in the hood not a comedy role but there's comedy in there and you're so great at deadpan you've got such a good thousand yard stare but there's funny moments in boys in the hood yeah even though it's a very dark sad story uh there's also um lightness in there and you could i think that's what really makes it feel even more authentic is it even in the worst situations there's always comedy without a doubt you know we laughed a lot you know all my friends everybody i kind of gravitate to is funny you know so i had friends that was hilarious and you know them making me laugh all the time me making them laugh and that was just kind of the now guess what now my brother neil is calling me oh my god neil neil i'm on the podcast right now i'm talking to ice cube so i'm gonna jump off but you want to say hello to ice cube hey ice cube how are you That's Neil, my brother Neil.
17:41I don't want to hear it man, bring the money or you're not going to get him back. I'll talk to you later Neil.
17:49Hey, I've got my Do Not Disturb button, I don't even know how that came in. I honestly do, I don't know how. Oh yeah, you're right, you do. I do, so anyway, go ahead. So comedy was always - This is such a fucked up - Wait, I'm getting a call from my daughter, she wants to talk to you as well. Alright, so go ahead, so comedy is always part of - Like, I don't remember not laughing even through, you know, any situations that was going down in the hood. Like, that's why we wrote Friday, because we was like, damn, we saw movies like Colors and South Central and Menace to Society and even Boys in the Hood.
18:27And we was like, damn, they think we, you know, grew up, you know, in this crazy war zone. But we had a little more fun growing up. And I'm looking around and I'm like, guys, didn't we have fun? You play football on the street, you know, play stickball, basketball, you know, just tag and, you know, water balloon fights and all kind of stuff. So I'm like, man, we need to do a movie that really has more of the tone on how we grew up. And that's how Friday came about. We wanted to be the anti-depressing L.A., you know, hood movie, so to speak. Right, just shootouts every five seconds and darkness and bleakness.
19:09I mean, yeah, that's movies, you know. It's unpredictability in the hood, which you don't know what day is going to be. It's going to be a good day or it's going to be a day where, you know, something happened. You just never know, you know, walking out in the street. So that's what made it, you know, kind of volatile, unpredictable. What, uh, I, I read that I was reading some interview with you and you said that you started writing rap lyrics because you were taking a typewriting class and the other kids. Way back in the 1900s. And it got me thinking, are all great rappers, do they start in typewriting class?
19:54I mean, if you talk to any of them, Jay-Z, whatever, they're like, yo, I was typing. You know, I don't think so. But I actually became a pretty good script writer. And so maybe that's why I was in typewriting class. Because I never knew I was going to use typewriting. No, no, no. It's so funny because I remember being in high school. And this dates all of us. But I had to take a typewriting class with old typewriters. Yes. Manual. Yeah. Dear Mr. Johnson, I wish to inquire. They would give you these assignments to write these things. because no one knew that these things are going to be in a landfill in five years.
20:33But you clearly tapped into something because these kids dare you start writing, which is an outlet for you. And your parents were supportive, right? Very supportive. It started off in school. You know, I was real young, like fifth grade. I could do, you know, I could draw real good. So I got my teacher's attention. And then when it was time to kind of write what you did for the summer, I was able to really, you know, write a nice paragraph for, you know, a fifth grader. So they end up putting that in the school paper. So as a youngster, I'm running around with this little, it wasn't even a paper.
21:13It was like a pamphlet, you know, pointing, look, look, look, my little, you know, essay or whatever got used. Yeah, you got positive, you know, affirmation. You did something and it was singled out, which is huge when you're that age. It is. And then they came to me when I went to the sixth grade. They was like, do you want to do a speech for the class? Like, do you want to talk to your graduating class? And I'm like, yeah, I do. And I wrote my little speech and delivered it and it got a nice reception. So I'm like, oh, damn, I can write it and I can speak it. It's not just stuck on the page.
21:58And that, I think, sparked something. And when hip hop started to grow, the typing thing came in the ninth grade when I was 14. I was late to all my counselors and shit. You're supposed to get your electives. They go to the counselor, get your electives. Go to the counselor, get your electives. I never went. So when I got there, I had shitty electives. It was like typing, cooking, you know, horticulture and shit. You know, I'm like, ah, damn. I'm like, I want to go to wood. I want to do metal. I want to do electives. You wrote so many songs about horticulture. Three albums on horticulture. That's probably why I like weed so much.
22:39But I learned how to grow it in ninth grade.
22:47So, you know, I had some shitty electives, but I had to do them. So I'm like, I'm always like, if I'm here, we might as well win. Like, I'm not going to be here not paying attention. I'm going to get it and I'm going to try to master it. And, you know, you do those little, you know, they put some shit on the board and you got to type it up. but they want you to do 30 words a minute or they want you to like beat a minute thing. So me and my guy, we, we like, we should be fucking secretaries. You know, we, shit is kind of fun. You know, we like, you know, boom, boom, boom. And, uh, I love it. I just love it.
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23:25You know, we hitting it. We like, boom. And he's, he's the same as me. You know, he, uh, he didn't go to the counselors either. So he got shitty electives too. So we, like, you know, the only two dudes in this class like us. So we're like, uh. And we beat the whole class, like, you know, and we're just talking. Everybody's still typing. And he looks at me and he's like, you ever wrote a rap before? Like, uh, no. You write one, I'll write one. We'll see which one's best. And I was like, okay. And I wrote an original rap. He bit all kind of fucking raps. I'm like, I heard that from LL. that's a line from the fat boys that's from Curtis Blum like dude you cheating and he couldn't rap it so mine was way better you know what I mean but a hell of a typist yeah yeah he's a hell of a typist now but but he couldn't write it I mean he couldn't rap it so I beat him you know outside of class we was rapping with our little piece of paper and shit I mean, I know that line.
24:31You know, and he stopped. I kept going, of course. Yeah.
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27:02you know what's crazy is i've heard you talk about your inspirations and you said you know like me you're a sponge picking up stuff that's going on in the 70s and back then the biggest star in the world was muhammad ali and i've thought about this many times because i'm obsessed with Muhammad Ali. I've watched tons of the footage on him. He does feel like the first rapper in some ways because he loved poetry and he had attitude and he could back it up. And there you go. Yeah. And you're, and you're, and so you're tuning into people like Muhammad Ali or Richard Pryor. They didn't necessarily, not necessarily other rappers, but people that displayed an attitude and a defiance.
27:49James Brown too. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they were like the first real life superheroes in a way. The reason why Muhammad Ali, to me, like you said, becomes the first rapper because he, it wasn't, it wasn't just rapping in a way. He was like, I'm gonna kick your ass in six rounds. And by the sixth round, your ass is kicked. So it was like putting his money where his mouth is, backing it up. And so that made everything stick even more. And then you got the like super fly kind of culture of just, you know, grown men doing a lot of shit talking, you know? And so rapping really is shit talking to a beat.
28:39You know, you just, you know, kind of shooting the shit, talking shit to a beat. And then you sprinkle a little game in there at the same time. Yeah. And it's, and it's the same thing, which is you got to back it up. Yep. And, but it's just amazing to me that even like early Eddie Murphy, there's a guy who's, he's a comedian, but he's got that I'm going to take over the world attitude and he's doing it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. He was a bad boy too. Yeah, and you can sort of channel all of that, which is fascinating to me. And, I mean, you couldn't have been prepared for what happened when you guys got together 1989 straight out of Compton, and it just changed everything overnight.
29:28Yeah, we was planning to be just an underground, hardcore underground group. Locals, really. Compton, Long Beach, Watts, LA. We thought that was probably, you know, probably the nucleus and everything, you know, wasn't going to be done too far from those places. That was our mindset because we felt like the music we're doing is too hard, too much profanity, and it's too L.A., you know, street culture. Yeah. So. Why would someone care about this? Yeah, yeah. It's getting more niche-y and niche-y to, you know, we feel like we're going to be some neighborhood stars, though. Like, we're going to run Compton, Watts, Linwood, Long Beach.
30:15Like, we're running this. But as far as being big as Run DMC or big as, you know, LL and, you know, all those super groups that we looked up to, we had no idea we would ever sniff that kind of fame. Yeah. And it happened fast. Overnight. You know, it was like an article in the L.A. Times by Bob Hilburn. And it just took off from there. Like, everybody was on us. And we had some singles out, but when we put that album together, it just exploded. Then the record, Brian Turner at Priority Records calls us, you got to get up here. You guys got to get up here. What's up? What's up? What's up? You want us up there?
31:02We go up there. He's like, man, did you see this shit? Do you see this? He's showing us a letter from the FBI. Like, man, I just got this, man. And, man, you know, this is crazy. What are we going to do? What are we going to do? You know, and Easy was like, this it? This all they do? They not coming? No Bataram? No fucking LAPD? No fucking, you know. You look at it and go, it's well-typed. It's scary. That's a corona. Yeah, yeah. So we was like, what the fuck is he so upset about? And he's like, man, that's the fucking FBI. We so naive. Yeah, yeah. Okay, man. And then he's like, sound like publicity to me, man.
31:48We should tell everybody they're trying to intimidate us. And I'm like, okay, you know. As long as it's not the LAPD or the sheriffs, I'm down to do whatever. Because those are the ones that really, you know, did a number on our neighborhoods. So we was young, you know, I'm 17, 18 years old, not even thinking that this is a real issue here. That's interesting that Eazy-E's a fascinating guy that in that moment he could see, this isn't a bad thing. This is a good thing. That's why he's brilliant, because he said the music was going to be big. We said it's going to be underground. He was like, no.
32:28and we like yeah nobody's playing this yeah radio he's like he's like well we're gonna do radio versions make them play it take out the custom yeah okay smart you know add some all right mr easy you have something here you know add some acoustic guitars a tambourine see if michael bolton's available yeah yeah let's clean it up uh i mean and that that i i mean i i really love the movie of course your son was in straight out of compton it's just a great it's a really good movie did you feel that was a pretty accurate uh representation because when you guys hit you you go on this tour yeah and the tour just looked like the fall of rome it's just it's It was damn near that.
33:18Yeah, you know, with a movie. And you're that age. Yeah. You're that age, and you guys are on this tour and— Having the time of our life, you know, with all the chaos, we were still, like, we're on the same stage as Run DMC, LL. We actually are on a national tour. Never thought it would happen. So everything after that was gravy. Yeah. Part of the adventure. yeah it was a it was a it was a crazy time I forget the exact question you asked about well just about Stroud Compton yeah now you know you're trying to sum up 10 years in two and a half hours yeah so you have to create summaries of what happened yes and you're actually making a movie so you have to have character arcs and you have to have you know um conflict sometimes that can be summarized in a very simple way yeah and we tried to make a universal movie because like if you're not a fan of you know a bitch is a bitch or fuck the police you know why should you see a nwa movie uh and so we was like okay let's make a movie about brotherhood let's make a movie about you know rags to riches break up to makeup david versus Goliath you know all these universal themes wrapped into our story you know and that way we was able to get the public to to really fall in love with the characters and care for them yeah you know even though the characters are actually us yeah yeah but you're doing I mean given all those constraints I I mean I love the movie thank you and we're proud of it and I thought your son killed it O'Shea he's amazing with a movie like that there's a thousand ways to get it wrong and only a few ways to get it right yeah you know and my son I went to him early in the process and I'm like hey man this NWA movie look like it's gonna happen he's like man good for you man I'm happy for you you know he's playing his game and shit I didn't talk to you for real He said, all right, what's up, what's up?
35:43So I want you to play me. He looked back. He said, okay. I was like, oh, shit. He's like, all right, I got it. I'm like, wait a minute, man. You know, it's a process. We got to, can't give it to you. You know what I mean? You got to, like, become an actor and, like, audition. and you know like the powers that be at Universal have to grant you this part I'm hearing video game noises while you're telling him all this you know he's like I got you I said okay I said okay I already opened my mouth I already opened my mouth so I gotta make him quit I gotta make him say I don't wanna do this you know so now I'm like give me an acting coach I want one in LA find one in New York.
36:36I'm going to send him everywhere to get better at this and see if he really wanted or he's going to just, at some point he's like, I don't want to go to New York. You know what I mean? So he met with a couple of coaches and met with the one in LA. And I said, so how's it going? You know, he's like, it's going good. He's like, man, me and my group going to get together. We're going to do some improv stuff. I'm like, okay, you know? he's falling in love with it you know he's like taking it serious I'm like well I want you to go meet with this other person in New York when you want me to go I'm ready I'm like okay this dude and I was happy that he just got bit by the bug and he just started to you know kind of fall in love with the process and then I had to convince Gary Gray you know when I told him I said I want my son to play me.
37:33He was like, man, goddamn, Q. I thought we was making a real movie. I said, look. I said, we are making a real movie, man. I said, he's going to be great. Now, you're going to help him through this process like John Singleton helped me with Boys in the Hood. You're going to help him? And he's going to be great. And he was like, man. So he was looking at me sideways till the auditions. So now the auditions are here and my son gotta go. I'm not there. I sent him. He gotta do a screen test. I'm like, I don't wanna have no influence on nothing. Either you're good enough or not. And he gets there and there's four other ice cubes there ready to audition.
38:23So now he's pissed. It's like, y 'all trying to take this out of my mouth. so he really turns into Ice Cube and gets the part Gary calls me yeah he was the best one you know he's good you know and they oh I told you like I told you man you know and um now he's I mean he's doing Star Wars he's doing Godzilla I can't get those damn movies he's doing he's doing he's doing it'd be great if you also auditioned to play Ice Cube but he beat you yeah he beat me and turned me down so Nah, he's more ice cube-y than you. Yeah, so, you know, that's... You know what's crazy is, I was thinking about it, it's not that you dabbled in acting, you've had a great acting career.
39:08That rap, the music, which was a phenomenal success, you could have just lived off of that the rest of your life and been thought of as one of the great legends of this art form. And then you look at, yeah, it's Boys in the Hood, Barbershop, the whole franchise, the whole Fridays franchise. Right along? Yeah, no, the ride-along movies, but also, I mean, the comedy you do in 21 Jump Street, you know. Captain Dixon. Yeah, yeah, which I always loved because I just, I years ago said someone's got to comment on police captains, sergeants that are always mad no matter what happens, you know. You two are my last nerve.
39:53and you were the perfect guy to play that police, you know, sergeant. I said, I want to be the craziest one. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't want nobody to beat me out as the craziest captain ever. The black, mad captain, you know, who's always beating on the desk. I love those, I mean, because in the 70s, I watched all those movies and they obviously went into the 80s too, but just that same thing that you were having fun with in such a great way. But, you know, the cops would always do something amazing. Like they'd break up the ring. They'd save the day. They'd defuse the bomb that was going to blow up Los Angeles.
40:36They'd do all this stuff and then cut to the captain going, you idiots, you tented the Buick Skylark. It was community property, you know. What? It's the same thing in Top Gun, actually. The new Top Gun movie that Tom Cruise made is Jon Hamm. But I asked Jon Hamm about this. Like, Tom Cruise is just saving the world left and right, and Jon Hamm's always saying, you listen to me, you piece of shit. If you ever save the world again without our permission. Love it. Just love it. But you have, I mean, you are so good at being mad in a comedy way. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's, you know, I want to thank John Singleton again because, you know, a lot of those that, you know, I kind of decided to just take the bull by the horns and produce them and, you know, write or, you know, direct or, you know, just kind of get behind the scenes.
41:36Because when I was doing Boys in the Hood, I would meet with John a lot. You know, he would have me coming over watching movies. He would put you through film school. you know, he's like clockwork orange and all these movies. I'm like, oh, damn. He's like, I got to show you what's a good movie and what's a bad movie and why. And one day he looked at me, he said, when are you going to write a movie? And I'm like, damn, man, come on, man. Like, I'm just not trying to act. I just got here. Yeah, I'm like, you know, I'm still not sure I can act. And he said, you think you're going to get movies good as Boys in the Hood for you?
42:15I'm like, bro, I don't know. He said, no. He said, they have no movies for you, Q. You're going to have to write your own. And I'm like, okay. And then when I end up falling in love with the process of making a movie and then, you know, going to his film school, so to speak, I started writing, and he helped me. You know, my first two scripts was terrible, and my third one was Friday. That's crazy. Yeah. And then there's just so many moments from that lines that are just part of the culture. Yeah, that's great. I mean, you think about all the different ways without getting a swelled head that you've been part of kind of like the history of the culture.
42:59It's pretty amazing. I mean, not being a comedian and having a comedy that's, you know, considered a classic and, you know, making, you know, my favorite comedians laugh is like the biggest kick I get out of all of this. Yeah. You know, having, you know, a person like Eddie Murphy or, you know, Dave Chappelle or somebody be like, yeah, love that Friday movie. You know, it's just funny. And I'm like, damn, as much as y 'all made me laugh and I get to make you laugh a little bit, you know, it's very cool as a fan of comedy and comedians. I was thinking about that today. Like, yeah, the whole movie aspect of your career wasn't really the plan.
43:40And it's been massive. It's been huge. I fell in love with the process of just creating on that. I'm like, man, there's no bigger canvas for an artist than a movie screen. Yeah. And a movie, you know, two hours of, you know, whatever story you need to tell. And I'm like, this is the place I want to be. Because, like you said, the music, the artist skits. We did love, you know, trying to make it sound real. You know, just using audio. You know, we had, they had these little sound effects CDs that, you know, you could buy 250 of them and it's the same scream that you hear. It's the same car horns.
44:22It's the same city sounds, you know, and we're trying to use them and blend them and EQ them to where, you know, the environment that we're in, we're trying to bring it sonically. so to be able to do that like visually sonically effects you know the whole shebang on a on a screen I'm like man I'm there I go to Outside Land with my daughter and I see Dochi perform and she's killing it but halfway through they cut they cut to this screen and it's a sketch and it's like a take off on like a sitcom but it's insane and it ends with one of the characters being thrown out the door and it's a dummy. It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
45:12And then she goes back to being this insanely amazing rapper, dancer. And I thought, this is, it's everything. It's great dancing, great, incredible, intricate rap. And then one of the funniest sketches, hands down, I've seen anyone do, anywhere. And then she's back into it again. And it's just, yeah, it's all of it. It's the humor. It's the darkness. It's everything. Yeah, and I think in honesty, I think that's important too. When people know you're coming from a real place, they want to see how you package it and present it. You know, they don't want you to always stay in the lines. They want you to go outside the lines a little bit.
45:58Yeah. Don't be so safe. You've got all these different passions. You've always been passionate about basketball, huge fan. And then a bunch of years ago, you started this three-on-three idea, which is, starts out small, just like anything else. You started out, but you've been working on it since like 2017, I think. Yeah. And now you've got this thing, Big Three. It's a three-on-three basketball league. Yeah. It's streaming. Where is it streaming? Is it Paramount? Right now we're on CBS, Paramount Plus. I think it's on Fubo. Yeah. And explain how it's three-on-three and who's participating. We just professionalize three-on-three.
46:45Yeah. You've seen five-on-five everywhere. And we're like, man, I had more fun playing three-on-three growing up. Yeah. Why is it in the parking lot? Like Mountain Dew and Nike used to do these weekend warrior tournaments three-on-three. And we're like, where's the pros? And like, it's a void in the market. Because after the finals end with the NBA, if you're not into those summer sports, you're waiting for the NFL. So there's three months of you want to kill yourself, you know.
47:23I wouldn't go that far. Oh, it's true. I don't know what to do in those three months. You know, after 40 years of that, I just, I couldn't take no more. You know, I'm like. So this is, I mean, this is the way fans can be watching. And who's playing three on three? It's some players that used to play in the NBA, former NBA players. Some of these players play in other countries all around the world. And it's just the best of the best at this format. You know, a lot of guys that's in the NBA wouldn't be great at this format because some of those guys are specialists. They're a three-point guy. They're a defensive guy or whatever.
48:07You have to be an all-around player for three on three. Like pass, dribble, shoot, defend at a high level or you're going to get exposed. So we're kind of developing our own athletes that can play basketball on this level. And if you look at what we're doing compared to the Olympics, it's night and day. The Olympics feels very amateurish. Well, it is amateur sports, but ours feel more like the NBA, more like a pro experience. You guys have a four-point shot? Four-point. How do you get a four-point? We got three four-point circles. So, you know, one of them's in the middle and two on the side. and if you just have a fingernail touching one of the circles, it counts.
48:52But if you shoot that far and not touch the circle, it's just a three-pointer. So how do you get the four-pointer? You got to be standing on the four-point circles. Oh, you get a four-point. Okay, so. You got to shoot from those areas. Okay. Yeah, I always think of ways to improve sport, and I used to think the NBA should have something where if you can somehow put a special hat on while you're playing and sink a shot. It should be like a five-point shot. I don't know about that. Oh, come on. We'll stick with the four-point circles. I'm with you, too. Yeah, that's a bad idea. Hear me out. Hear me out.
49:25I've got lots of ideas for different sports. We actually don't want to hear you out on a lot. No, we're good. I think we heard enough. If you could, it's a hat that if you can access it. Yeah, we got that part. And it's like a fun hat. It's an interesting hat. Is there a hat guy? There's an area of the court where they have a hat on a little table. if you can get that hat on and get the shot off and it's in a certain area, then it's a five point shot. I also think in baseball, you should be able to choose which way you run. I like this. When you hit the ball, you can run to first or you can run to third.
49:58Once you pick a direction, you have to stick in that direction. You have players crossing each other on the baseline. This is a better version of baseball. If we could add a hat to that. No, no, no. That hat sucks. I think I saw that on Banana Ball.
50:16Do you play? Definitely not. No, no, but I mean for fun. We're serious. No, no, no. I know that you don't play in the league, but do you play a lot? No, I retired. And I went to the podium. You didn't see me at the podium? I did. I did. I saw they loaded a banner. Yeah, all that. So I'm done. Do you shoot around then? I shoot around a little bit. But I kept seeing some of my friends who are amateurs for sure getting pro injuries. You know, they were like popping Achilles and, you know, tearing knees. And I'm like, who needs this? Like, why would Ice Cube be on crutches? And people said, what happened, Cube?
50:56I was playing basketball. Do you talk about yourself? Do you often talk about yourself in the third person as Ice Cube? It slips out sometimes. Ice Cube wants pudding. Yeah. Okay, I'll get you put in. It does slip out, and I kind of catch myself. I remember when we shot the second remote, we go downtown, and then I think it was your guys' idea that we should get weed. We stop off a dispensary. That was your idea, man. Come on. Oh, please. I would never. No, he wanted to add a hat into it. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to go hat shopping. You and Kevin Hart fucked up that idea. Yeah, but we go, we get all this, we buy so much and we stock the car with it.
51:41And then the remote's over. We end up in a parking lot somewhere. I'm thanking you guys, you know, SUVs pull up, you know, Kevin Hart gets in his SUV. People are gonna leave. I'm talking to my crew. I'm like, oh my God, that's great. People are gonna love that. It's gonna be really good. And then I wander back and someone said, hey, where's the weed? It's all gone. And they said, Cube took it. I'm like, this man, you do pretty - You know they wouldn't blame it on the rapper. You know what I'm saying? You do pretty well. Yeah. Oh, so you're denying you took it. You're denying you took it. I'm denying I took it.
52:17Kev Hart, did he leave first? He left first. Thank you. He left in a hurry. He left in a hurry. That is true. Okay. I think he said you took it. I don't know. But that would be like him to say, oh, Cube took it. You weren't going to take it. No. No. No, I wasn't. Yeah, so, you know, it's good that it went somewhere. If they had been commemorative presidential coins. Who's you going to sell it? Who took the Martin Van Buren coins? Don't look at me. Did you say he was going to sell it? I was asking, was you going to sell it? Why are you looking for the weed? I would love to see you try to sell weed.
52:52While you're turning tricks on Santa Monica Boulevard. Buy my weed. If not, I'll blow you. What? You're gonna blow people to buy your weed. That's the incentive to get the weed. What is this business proposal? I'm throwing in the blowjob. That's just, this is a good businessman. You have to have a multi-pronged model. It's your loss leader to get people in the door.
53:21You don't buy my weed, I'll blow you? That's terrible. Come on! Why don't you want this weed? I said I'd blow you. what the fuck happened here Q when we get together it's good but it's also I'm gonna blame you you took the weed and you got me into this blowjob thing no you derailed it at hats okay let's just okay well Sona before we go you talk all this shit about Q all the time now he's here how dare you what'd you tell him hold on no I'm not there's three LA natives in this of me and Eduardo and Matt and the three of us. I mean, you what you've done for L.A. is huge. Yeah. And you know what?
54:04My cousin from Australia came on his honeymoon and I said, where do you want to go? Anywhere in L.A.? And he says, I want to go to Compton. And so we drove around Compton. Yeah, we really did. It's like Disneyland now. Yeah. I mean, you know, he's just like, because that's like his in his mind, that's L.A. culture is driving around Compton. So, yeah. And you're just a prime because, yeah, when how old you would have been pretty young when yes straight out of compton came out i was yeah i mean i was born in 82 but i was in high school when i came out it was huge yeah huge well i was fucking around where was i in boston i don't know it doesn't matter where i was you were not listening to straight out of compton no i was listening to yeah you were listening to some 1920s record but like button up your overcoat when the wind grocery put on the record 78 has the big horn, tank horn, cannibal shot.
54:55You belong to me, Odey Odey Odey O. I can't wait to meet Cube. You were listening to - And song about my Rudy Valley record collection. Straight out of Brookline. Yeah, straight out of Brookline, it was pretty tough. Someone stole my fifth IZOD shirt.
55:13Cube, every time I hang with you, it's one of the, it's just a great day. It really is a great day. You're just a phenomenal force. I'm so happy for you I want to check out this big three so I'm going to start watching it because I do I really got into the finals the NBA finals and yeah now we've you know okay I could watch World Cup but oh wow one zip another exciting game lot of running lot of running another play broken up that's 98 plays in a row broken up fun's fun take it easy but But, uh,
55:56but cute. Yeah. So I'm going to check that out. It's, uh, it's, it's, uh, big three and, um, excited to see it and just come on by anytime. We love having you here. I'd love to be here, man. You know, anytime, man, just, you still throwing up in your mouth a little bit, talking to me, but I'm good. I just need a Coke before I leave. You know what I mean? My taste buds is, you know. All right. All right. All right, man. All right.
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58:40If you're listening, I'm sure there is a way for you to access video. Yeah. If you want to check out what's happening. Team Coco YouTube. Yeah. But you also can just take my word for it. Yes, everything you're describing is correct. It looks like I just stepped out of the shower. Yes. Let me explain what happened. Very recently, I don't know when this drops, but a little over a week ago, my wife and I attended the grand opening of the Obama presidential library. Seems like you're bragging. Okay. It's not a humble brag. It's not a brag of any kind. It's just a brag brag. No, it's not a brag. I'm giving you the story of what happened.
59:19Yeah. I was in attendance, as were many people, much greater, higher, more important people than me were there. But we were very thrilled to be invited along. what i hadn't realized is that um our our seats were outside i hadn't really thought about it and at the last second as my wife and i were in our hotel room in chicago as we're headed out the door i think oh we're gonna be outside so i splash some some black on on my face okay we go to the event we're sitting outside and i'll just say in our row at the end of our row i see oh there's stephen colbert hi stephen you know good to see you and there's david letterman oh wow i love these guys these are great we're all sitting in this row together and uh the sun the clouds break the sun comes out it's a wonderful event amazing speeches um incredible performances now you are bragging it has nothing to do with your hair that's all i'm saying i'm not bragging i'm bragging on the amount of names dropped on the floor i don't know you're not understanding all i'm saying is the Obamas threw an amazing bash.
1:00:25There's another. No, but wait, that is, all I'm saying is that the former president of the First Lady threw an incredible event. We get it, we get it, we get it. Oprah was there. Yeah, of course. Did you talk to Oprah? No. Oprah was very good at keeping me back. Let's just put it that way. As were most of the people there. Most people there had security whose only job was to keep Conan away. Had you in a Conan section. I noticed that other people could just wander up to them. Strangers. could wander up to them. Yeah, but they're very good. They're called Conan Bashers. You can hire a Conan Basher.
1:00:58Didn't know that was an option. Yeah, and you can get one. Anyway, it's three hours plus. And when it's over, I'm so glad that I put the sunblock on and I'm feeling really good about myself. Like, smart move. I walk over and I see Stephen Colbert, David Letterman. They look like they've been playing in a sandbox with plutonium. Their faces are just bright, bright red. And I'm like, well, those suckers don't know how to put sunblock on. A day or two later after the event, I feel like my skull is on fire. And then two days after that, my skull is really itchy. And whenever I, my scalp, and whenever I itch it, it looks like a snow globe.
1:01:38Oh. Just, it looks like confetti. White, white freckled confetti is pouring off of my head. It's disgusting. I'm like, what is going on? I'm going crazy. and I talked to someone and they said, yeah, you got a sunburn on your scalp, which I'm not used to because I've got so much hair, but this sun just went blasted right through my hair and it roasted my scalp. And someone said to treat this, you've got to rub oil into it. So this morning I rubbed oil into it, not thinking about the podcast or the camera. And then I come in and I look like I'm in Sha-na-na.
1:02:19I'm a grease ball. I'm just this, I'm so greasy. Frankie Valli. I'm Frankie Valli. And so I've got this comb. And you have this comb. I've got this comb and I've got this, all this grease in my hair, which is weighing my hair down. My hair can't do its normal thing. And I'm just like, I look like - Like you're in grease. Yeah, I look like I wanna fight one of you in the parking lot by swinging a chain at you. in 1952 or a little switchblade. Yeah, do you feel - Eduardo, I'm gonna come at you with a switchblade. Yeah. But that's how I feel. But do you feel different with your hair like this? I do.
1:02:55I really do. I really feel different. I wanna, I just wanna fight people on the street. I wanna get a hot rod and drive it around. I wanna get Rizzo pregnant so that Rizzo has a bun in the oven. You know what I mean? You think you're canicky? Yeah. Okay, you're not canicky. Yeah, I might be canicky. You're like one of the two extra ones. I'm one of the Thunderbirds that is easily 55 years old. That's my favorite thing, is when you look at still photographs of the Thunderbirds. I know. And it's like, okay, well, there's John Travolta. There's Danny Zuko. There's Danny Zuko. And there's Keniki. Keniki.
1:03:36And then you look at the other guys, and there's two of them that easily look like they fought in a war 30 years ago. No, not him. That's Eddie Deason. No, not him. No, not him. You're not him. Find him. He's not Eugene. No, no, no. You got to find, not Eugene. Eugene is, by the way, Eddie Deason. That's Eddie Deason, king of the nerds. Oh, come on. Did you know that? His name is Eddie Deason and he's king of the nerds. Okay. That's who you think. That's who you think. You think you're kidding. You're having a hard time here. You're not. That's who you think you are. We need all the T-Birds. Yeah.
1:04:04Just go Google T-Birds. Yeah, but he thinks he's that guy. No, no. Yes, and I think I am. Conan. I want to put a cigarette behind my ear. And you know what? As a joke recently, David got me bubble gum cigarettes, so I'm gonna put a bubble gum cigarette behind my ear. There we go. Okay, look at the guy who is, he's in high school? He's in high school? Yeah. No, he's not in high school. He's a pipe fitter who fought in the Korean War. That guy's, I think he's 48 years old. He just had a stent put in. It's unbelievable. They're like, you think you can play high school? Sure, I can play high school.
1:04:46Hey, what's wrong with your knee? I had it replaced. We just Photoshop Conan's face into that photo. Oh, I know we should. I'm a greaseball now, and I'm just going to keep rubbing oil into my head until my skull heals. What kind of oil is it? What is it? I just grabbed, they said, this person just said oil, so I got some WD-40. Oh, okay. I kind of like this look on you. Do you really? I do. I think this makes you look very refined. Refined? Well, that would be if I combed it straight back. Yeah. It's sort of Michael Caine and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Yes. It's like Al Pacino in The Godfather. We don't have a mirror here because we suck.
1:05:25What? Well, we do. Come on. We've been doing this a long time. There's no mirror. I never get any makeup. We're not a real urban. Oh, I do my own makeup. Maybe you can do your own makeup. So you like this? I don't hate it. I don't. You don't like it, right? I don't like it, no. It's very different, but it is like a Conan 2.0. This is undiluted fat Irish face. This is just big block of Irish face. Come on. I think the hair can at least obscure and soften. It's very Wall Street, which I think is like against kind of who you are. No, I think greed is good. No. I am Gordon Gekko. No. Yes, it's Gordon Gekko.
1:06:04No. In a world of Gordon Gekko's be Martin Sheen. Now I'm just a Gekko. I don't know. Now I'm just acting like a Gekko. That's why you can never be like Gordon Gekko. No, that's why you can never be like him. That's why this hair won't suit you. It's because you do that stuff. We gotta fix the burn. I know. When's your hair gonna stop? I don't know. It actually might have already. Isn't there like a powder sunscreen we can get for your scalp? I'm gonna order some for you. Get a sunscreen. No, you know what it's called? Wear a hat! You know who's wearing a hat? Hillary Clinton was up there wearing a hat.
1:06:36And it wasn't just any hat. It was, I mean, it looked like a giant sail on a sailboat. It was a huge hat. She's smart. Yeah, she's smart. She's laughing at me right now. Yeah, she is. And she's fine. She has no itchy scalp. She really doesn't. But I also, it's been long enough. I really don't think that you have to deal with it anymore. Does your scalp even still itch? Like when I get sunburned and I do it, my skin's just too. This is my question. It's like a day. No, this is, I know. That's what I'm curious about. It's been over a week. No. So something's, this could be a worse problem. Oh, come on.
1:07:13Don't do that. Don't get into that hypochondriac thing you do. I'm turning into Gordon Gekko. Or if it's plural, Gordon Gekai. Why did I force that? I don't know. Anyway, I'm sure I'm fine. I just got to oil up this melon. This is Irish mafia. I got to start saying, hey, I got to run. I got to oil up this melon. Yeah. And I just said Irish mafia and you said oil up this melon. Gotta oil up this melon. That's not very Irish mafia. And then I gotta go see Danny Zuko. Because we're about to graduate high school. And then he's gonna drive me in for my lung transplant. All right. Pray for me. Pray for me.
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