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Podcast Episode Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Janelle James
Episode Overview In this episode of *Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend*, host Conan O'Brien chats with actress, comedian, and writer Janelle James, known for her breakout role as Ava Coleman on *Abbott Elementary*. The conversation explores James's rise in comedy, her unexpected success, and her family's reaction to her fame. Additionally, the episode features a segment where Conan, Matt, and Sona offer advice to a student in need.
Key Themes
Friendship and Connection
- Conan's quest for genuine friendships with his guests is a recurring theme throughout the podcast.
- Janelle expresses excitement about being friends with Conan, highlighting the playful nature of their relationship.
Comedy and Career Journey
- Janelle's Background:
- Born in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, and moved to Maryland at 16.
- Worked various jobs, including in a salon, law firm, and even at a strip club, while honing her comedy skills.
- Her path to stand-up was unplanned; she found herself in comedy after encouragement from her then-husband.
- Stand-Up Comedy:
- Janelle attended open mic nights, initially just to watch, and eventually performed after being encouraged by her husband.
- She discusses the importance of community in comedy and the influence of comedians like Todd Berry and Rob Delaney.
*Abbott Elementary* and Ava Coleman
- Janelle talks about her character Ava Coleman, noting the challenges of portraying a self-centered yet humorous role.
- She reflects on how she approached the character, indicating that her comedic background helped shape her portrayal of Ava.
- The conversation reveals insights into the character's personality, which blends confidence with flawed decision-making.
Personal Growth and Family Reaction
- Janelle shares her family's initial hesitance to embrace her fame, particularly her mother's shyness and reluctance to share her daughter's success.
- Her children have mixed feelings about her fame, with her son expressing that it's strange to see her in a comedic role.
Key Takeaways
- Inspiration in Comedy: Janelle's story illustrates the importance of perseverance and finding one's voice in a competitive industry.
- Authenticity vs. Fame: The episode touches on the tension between being authentic and the pressures of fame, especially as Janelle navigates her newfound recognition.
- Community Support: The importance of surrounding oneself with supportive peers and mentors in the comedy landscape is emphasized.
- Comedy as a Reflection of Life: Janelle's character in *Abbott Elementary* reflects aspects of her own life experiences and the absurdities of everyday situations.
Notable Quotes
- Janelle on her rise in comedy: "I was like a nerdy bookworm growing up... I just wanted to be like Madonna in New York."
- Conan on his admiration for Janelle's work: "Your portrayal of Ava on *Abbott Elementary* brings me a lot of happiness."
Conclusion This episode of *Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend* provides an engaging look into Janelle James' journey in comedy, her character in *Abbott Elementary*, and the challenges of navigating fame. Conan's playful banter with Janelle adds to the lighthearted and genuine nature of the conversation, making for a compelling listen.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Hi, my name is Janelle James and I feel excited about being Conan O 'Brien's friend. I heard he has a lot of money. I did and I invested it badly Can I redo my No Fall is here Hear the yell Back to school Ring the bell Brand new shoes Walking loose Climb the fence Books and pens I can tell that we are gonna be friends Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends Hey, welcome to Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend. I'm coming in with a lot of energy. I've been away for a little bit. Yeah. I was in Boston, my old hometown of Brookline, Mass. Oh, how was that? It was great. Got to see, you know, a bunch of my peeps, my old gang that I used to run with.
0:57What were you guys called? Okay. What's that? What was your gang called? Oh, it was a pretty tough gang. We wore Lacoste shirts. Studied hard for our PSATs. Yeah, we were the PSAT gang. oh cool that's tight that's cool so scary yeah it was really scary yeah we used to run around sometimes we'd just mal-adjust someone's cap on their head without their permission no way yeah we'd give it a little twist what's that did you have a nickname in the gang mine yeah I guess I don't want to talk about it it's a little little bones you know it's a past life you don't want to go back to that they used to call me Colonel Baum Colonel Baum yeah he was a revolutionary war general and he was a, well, he was a German.
1:41Is this what the gang was like? Because everyone had to be named after a different Revolutionary War general. He was a German who was sent to fight on behalf of the British and he was ambushed, I think up in New Hampshire. So you guys would rumble and just, you would come to victory by boring people? Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. But I was Colonel Baum and you just had different people who were different members of the British fighting forces. Cool. That's so cool. It's the coolest gang. Sexy too. A little sexy. So hot. If anyone got laid, they were kicked out of the gang. That's the number one rule.
2:15And yet no one did. No, we lost one good guy that way. Oh, really? Yeah, and he just came looking at a woman on screen. But that counted. Any orgasm of any kind meant you were out of the gang. Even on your own? Yeah, but you know what? Colonel Baum here. Still in the gang. Still in the gang to this day. Wow. Yeah, still in the gang. There have been a couple of times where I've seen an ad for Coco and an attractive woman is serving it. Yeah. And I'm like, restrain oneself. It's just you and all these 15-year-olds. Yeah. The new hires. Yeah. Anyway, no, it was, you know, good to get back there. And I have to say, wandering around Newbury Street in Boston, I ran into so many people who listened to the podcast who all said, hey, tell Matt, tell Sonia I said hi.
3:01Oh, that's nice. They said it in those accents. But still, the message came across. And I heard a great phrase, which is Newberry Street. You remember Newberry Street. It's where all the shops are in downtown Boston. And I heard a great phrase and I attribute this to the singer from the Mighty Mighty Boston's, Dickie Barrett, announcer for Kimmel for many, many years. Someone took a footage of me walking down Newberry Street while I was there and put it up. People in Boston were seeing it and saying, hey, I saw you on Newberry Street. And Dickie Barrett told my brother Luke, he was like, damn, I just saw this footage of Conan.
3:33And kind of in the vein of why can't they leave him alone? you know yeah and he said you know guy can't even uh shoot the noob in peace and that was and i was like shoot the noob walk down newberry street is shoot the noob oh that's cool and i thought that is the coolest phrase and just to shout out to boston next time maybe this is something they all say i didn't know that but my i i doffed my cap to to dickie barrett who said shoot the noob conan can't even shoot the noob without people giving him a hard time do you say it now i say it all the time. Do you ever shoot the larch? You're on Larchmont?
4:06No. You can't. No. It's not the same. It's not the same, but shoot the noob. So Liza joined me on the trip. I started saying maybe every 20 minutes the way I do. You want to shoot the noob? Hey, Liza, we're shooting the noob. Let's go shoot the noob and maybe I'll find an orthotic insert. You're awful. I'm awful. And she got to a point where she's like, just no more shoot the noob for a while, but I love shoot the noob. So if you're in Boston or you're going to visit Boston, I want to do a public service announcement for the city that says, hey, when you're in Boston, shoot the noob. Hey, you just did it, I think.
4:46They're going to just clip that out and use it for tourism. Not without my permission. Oh. And the cost,$15 million. Whoa. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'll do it. Yeah. No. Shoot the noob. Oh, this is my Boston. Hey, Boston, shoot the noob. Hey, that's your Boston. That's your Boston? Shoot the noob! Shoot the wicked noob! Hey! Wicked pisser. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to do Boston. No, you did it. That's the whole attitude. Shoot the wicked noob. What are you doing? What are you doing? Shoot the wicked noob. Hey! I'm from Boston. Hey! Hey, isn't it? No one goes, hey! It's a pretty good Gilbert Gottfried impression.
5:25Yeah. Go socks! Go shoot the noob and then say, Ah, flack! Ah, flack! Oh, let's go to Fenway Park! And shoot that noob. I want to get that. Maybe it's a thing they all say, but I love it. We got to think of something for Larchmont, but nothing noob. Nothing's going to... Let's larch it up. No. March the larch. March the larch is dorky. March the larch. No. No, he just went for that, and then you said it was dorky. You don't march. Anything with march, I think, sounds a little dorky. Yeah, and a little fascist. Oh, that's true. They must march on the larch. Yeah. I don't like it. Okay. What about lope?
6:03Lope the larch? What do you mean lope the larch? Lope? Yeah, I mean lope. You know, like the word lope? Loping? You know what I love? Oh, no. You know what my favorite play quality is? When you choose to seize the mic. That's my favorite quality of yours. You lurch forward and you seize the mic as if you just cracked E equals MC squared. Lurch the larch. Oh. Oh, no. Let's go stretch your arch on the larch. Yay! Wait, that? You go for that one? Stretch your arch on the larch. Arch it on the larch. That's like a public service announcement. Guys, all I know is that when I was in Boston, you know what I did?
6:39Ask me what I did. What'd you do? You can't do it that way. You can't say shop the noob. No, it doesn't work. Hey, what are you going to do tonight? Shoot the noob. Oh, he's going to shoot the noob. Then we packed. And then get a Remy dog. I don't know what that is. What is that? Okay. What's a Remy dog? It's a hot dog. Oh, that's it? It's Jerry Remy. It's Jerry Remy. Don't say who's Jerry Remy. That's going to piss me off. Okay? Say it again because I need to ask it. Who's Jerry Remy? Second baseman. Boston Red Sox. Iconic. Also a great announcer. An inventor of the Remy dog. He made hot dogs?
7:15What's special about the Remy dog? Yeah. It's named after Jerry Remy. But there's nothing. What did he do with it? It's infused with the essence of Jerry Remy. That's all you need to know. Like his ashes? Or his. Okay. Don't. This is getting dark and I don't like that. I don't know. Is he dead? Is he alive? He has passed on to his great reward, but somewhere he's in heaven eating and sharing a Remy dog with Christ. Wait a minute. There's nothing. He didn't add. He probably did. This is getting into stuff that I'm sure is proprietary to the Remy family. And I don't want to get into that. OK, listen, we are shedding listeners because we're getting way too local, way too parochial.
7:48We can't do that. We've got to open it up. You did the shoot the noob thing. I know. I know. And I thought we got away with it. And then we went down this wormhole of Jerry Remy, Remy dog, Fenway Park. this is all important stuff to me. Yeah. But we are shedding people right now. You guys want to talk about Whittier? More sports. Yay, Whittier. Yeah. Whittier College. Richard Nixon, baby. That's where he met Pat Nixon at the theater. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. The Rocky Cola Cafe in Uptown. It's gone now. It's Whittier. Whittier where the girls are prettier. That's right. Yeah. And never shittier than in Whittier.
8:24What exactly is never shittier? Show your tittier on Whittier. Oh, come on. Like, all of these were circulating in Whittier many, many years ago. I'm sure they are. Yeah. Show your tittier. I'd pity her. Were she from Whittier. You could say, show that you are tittier in Whittier. Okay. How are you tittier? Like, you're tittier? No, you're running through this through. You have, like, four? Guess what? I'm running this through. You have, like, four titties? I'm running this through the latest advanced chat, GBT, and it says this is the worst segment ever on a podcast. Okay. Well, you said tittier in Whittier.
8:57I'm just trying to figure out. I'm not saying I contributed any good to this, but I did shoot the noop. All right. Oh no. Let's get into it. Let's do it. All right. My guest today is a hilarious actress, writer, and comedian who stars as principal Ava Coleman, such a funny character in the hit ABC series, Abbott Elementary. She is so good. I'm thrilled she's here today.
9:25Janelle James, welcome.
9:30First of all, I'm going to describe the vibe here right now. You can maybe see it if you're watching this on video. I feel like I'm smoking you out now. What is this that's happening right now? You lit some incense. You never know who entered the room before you. You know what I mean? And I wanted a clean slate with my new friend Conan O 'Brien. So I brought some incense. This is nice. What is the scent we're getting here? This is Palo Santo. Okay. Yeah. What are we getting from this scent? I'm not a connoisseur of scents. Cleansing. Good energy. A little jump off talking point.
10:06Yeah. That's great if that was the scent. Jump off talking point. Jump off talking point for podcasts. Icebreaker. Yeah. Icebreaker. This is a hint of icebreaker. Yeah. Some tones of funny bit we could do. It does feel like a small fire broke out in the podcast studio. If any time you want me to put it out, I am. No. I'm liking this right now. It's going right towards you, so you probably need some cleansing. I was going to say, what does that mean? It's sensing a black hole of me. Yeah, it's weird. There is no wind in here. It's just seriously going straight to me. It is going right to my fat head.
10:46That's why I moved it, and it's going right to you. No matter where you move it, it's going to come to me, because it senses a vacuum here. It senses pain. Are you anxious today? Am I just anxious in general? Yes. Facts. Same. That's why I walk around with incense like a weirdo. Well, let me paint the picture. It's still going right to him. Wow. Let us pray. No, no, no. Every time you move it, the smoke makes a beeline. It's in a U-turn. Must heal creature. Must heal creature. That is weird. She said it's for cleansing, right? Yeah, it is. What's the cleansing over here? It's not working yet. but it's got a lot to do.
11:26You need to bring in a giant bundle of these and light them all at the same time. I'll do the whole studio for you. So Janelle, I'm at this event and I practically run smack into you. Facts. What's that? Facts. Yeah. Yeah. You did almost run right into me. I did. Is that on purpose? You know, I see attractive women sometimes. I just try and do the old, hey, what the heck? Sorry I bumped into you. I love you. then you can't get me too you know it was just i bumped into you it was an accident and here i am that's the worst yeah that's the worst no i uh i ran into you i was so happy uh to see you because you're very funny and you're very funny in an original way and i was so happy to cross paths with you and you were there david i was and i said i must have janelle on the podcast yeah you You called me over immediately.
12:21I called you over immediately and said, can you just make this happen? And you said, well, I don't think I can. You started fompering. It's so nice to have you here. He was real standoffish. You were nice. Yeah. He was like, I don't know. Yeah. I remember. I try to be afraid of possible. Well, you know what's nice is Matt Gorley is out today. That's not the nice part. But boy, what a nice break. Poor Gorley when he edits this. No, no. We all love Matt Gorley, but you are sitting in, in his stead, David, and you're a big fan. You're a big fan of Janelle. I am a huge fan of yours, yeah. As is Sona.
12:56Yep. As am I. So we've got, I mean, you've got a packed house right here. Eduardo over there. Big fan. I appreciate it. I feel the love. Blay, not so much, because you're not in Star Wars. Oh, yes. Yes. Let's manifest. Okay. As I said, your portrayal of Ava on Abbott Elementary, it brings me a lot of happiness because I think it's a very tricky thing to pull off the self-involved, maybe not a villain. I'm not going to say villain, but a character. For a sitcom, I'm a villain. For a sitcom, you're a villain. And so you're walking this line, but you do it beautifully. And in a way where I think this is great.
13:37This character is inept, vainglorious, has all these flaws, but you're very funny doing it, consistently funny, and you keep hitting different notes. and I'm just very happy. Well, thank you so much, Conan. Yeah, really happy for you. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. My opinion might not mean anything, but seriously. What are you talking about? I don't know if you saw the WGA Awards last year and I had a joke in there where I said, what's funny about late night? And I said, I don't know. Is Conan here? He's funny. And I got a little flack for that. I am a huge fan of yours. Well, that's very nice. I'm a huge fan of yours.
14:12Thank you. And your opinion, that really made me think. Well, you know, I'm also, I know that your story is a great story. It really is great. It is. You came to your success after a lot of hard work and struggle. And I love those stories. I really do. I think I just won a contest. But I think. Aw, I did. But how did you win? Aw, you did. What did you do before you won? Yeah. Well, I was a male stripper. Okay. I was in Thunder Down Under. And Lorne Michaels saw me. grinding it. I knew he was into that. Don't disparage the name of Thunder from Down Under. Or Lorne Michaels. Oh yeah, that too, but more importantly, Thunder from Down Under.
14:55No, but let's talk about the backstory a little bit because you're born in St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands. I am. I was. You were. You're still being born. We're all still being born. Hey, if you think about it. Do you... At what age do you start to think I'm funny? Oh, shoot. Always? No, not till adulthood. Really? Yeah. I don't think I was a, yeah, everybody get that class clown question or whatever. I was not a class clown. Yeah, I don't, I know I was like always a jerk, you know, like a smart ass. Right. But you were funny. You could make your friends laugh. I don't remember. I don't know if I'm just old.
15:37I don't remember like. He gets all this incense. Facts. Could be. Okay. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember until adulthood people being like, you're hilarious. I don't. Yeah, I don't. I was like a nerdy bookworm growing up, but I've always just been. I'm sensing a kindred spirit here. Yeah. I've just always been in adult business. I know that. Like listening to what's going on, curious about everything, and then having something to report. That was my thing and just being like sarcastic with it. And I think I became funny. So just people would listen to me, state all my facts that I knew.
16:16That works. It's a survival instinct. Yeah. You move, how old are you when you moved to? 16. And you moved to Maryland? Yeah. And then I was there for a year and then I moved to New York because I loved Madonna. And she had that movie. She had that song, Come to New York. Come to New York. What was that? Who's that girl? I remember watching that when I was like five or something, like just being obsessed with her and being obsessed with New York and was like, I'm going to move there and just like be like Madonna, just like bopping down the street and having a New York life. And so moved to New York, did every hustle in the book.
16:55Let's hear some of the hustles because. Man, I worked in a salon in the fashion industry. I worked in a law firm. I worked hosting in many restaurants, a waitress in many restaurants. I worked in many hair salons as a receptionist and like shampoo girl and all those things. I worked at, oh, frick, what's the Howard Stern Strip Club? You know what I'm talking about? Is it named after him? No, what is that? Scores? Scores, yeah. I worked at Scores as a humidor, which is a cigar girl. Oh, so that means you walk around with a tray of cigars. Too prudish to get naked, but I wish I did when I still had that body.
17:42But yeah, humidor. I was a humidor guy when I was in Thunder Down Under. Oh, God. Yeah. Okay. They wouldn't let me take my shirt off. I did once and three people went to the hospital.
17:59You blinded them. Blinded them. They were like, I see a lot of white and then blue veins. Am I dead? Yeah. What else did I do? I started many like home hustles. I taught sewing lessons in my house. I threw like parties in my house for like entry because I had no furniture. So I was like, what can I do all this empty space in this apartment? I threw parties. I started a personal chef. This is when. And so enterprising. Because I grew up, my dad had a restaurant, so I know how to cook. I don't like to anymore, but I'm so I knew how to cook. And I'm just I'm just like, what skills do I have that can I turn into money?
18:41That's what New York was for me. And so I started this. This is when all the the startups startups were going. Yeah. Like we work and all that shit open. So I started doing like personal chef for all these like, you know, eight person offices. I would go in and cook lunch for them. And I will cook your food, then wash your hair. whatever you need then offer you a cigar whatever you need baby you could do anything yeah that was called the joy of not cooking I just remembered that yeah so yeah many things and in between there got married had a baby and then I moved to follow the man to the Midwest which is where I started comedy okay yeah so the whole time that you're doing what you call hustles just jobs you're doing all these different jobs you're trying everything sometimes at the same time yeah and you are you know you're earning your way is it in the back of your head while that's all happening i've got to get into a performing life no not at all really not at all wow so my ex-husband what he would say so when i had that empty apartment uh he would come over and we would you know imbibe and we would get high and um i don't know how else to say that and i'd be running my mouth as i do and he would say you're hilarious he's he's the first person i remember being like oh you should do something with that and i'm like Like, what a clown?
19:57Like, what do I do being hilarious? It never crossed my mind. It really, it really didn't. Performing or I never did like stage play. Nothing, nothing performance wise. Life is a performance. I will say my dad had like a restaurant on the beach. That's where I grew up. We started as a food truck and then it turned into a restaurant. And so our performance, me and my siblings, of which I'm the oldest of nine, we were the kids that come up to you on vacation and sell you shit. That's my first performing. Like, hey, you got to have games. You have to be able to talk. You know, like, oh, quench your thirst with this bucket of Bacardi or whatever.
20:33So we were always performing like, oh, poor island kids, you know, you know, that kind of thing. So I've always been like outgoing in that way.
20:52so you're in the midwest and you decide i you'll go to an open mic night what did you do yep somebody handed me a flyer in the grocery store and i came home i put it on the table and my ex-husband said what's that and i was like some guy handed to me he was like you should go like because uh you know I went there for him he was going to to school and so I didn't I hadn't really been leaving the house or anything so he's like you should go go outside and I went and I watched it's my first time seeing a comedy open mic I had no idea like how comedians start or practice or anything like that or that that happens and I was laughing so they wanted me to come back they were like come back next week and by the way you can do some time you could do four minutes if you want next week.
21:36And I was like, what does that mean? They told me you write your material. You can do four minutes. And so that's what I did. I came back the next week. I did four minutes. I got my first laugh. I was like, this is it. I loved it. Yeah. And I just started doing it every week. Started hanging out with those dudes, like five white boys. We started traveling around. Yeah. Not in a van. What were we in? A Volvo station wagon. Going to like the different clubs around. Did you work out a set? I did. Or did you have a lot of improvised improvisation in your set? No, no. I was really like, so my, at that time, my dad was dying.
22:11And I think a lot of comedians start from some traumatic, you know, shit. And so I was just kind of working that out. So my first 10 minutes or whatever that I built up was about my dad dying. And, um, but then also like a lot of starting comedians, I started getting like book gigs, like, yeah, I got 30 minutes, you know, that kind of thing. And so I had to improvise in that way, but I don't, I don't think I was good, but I was doing it. So, yeah. And then, yeah, my home club is the Jukebox Comedy Club in Peoria. I started hanging out there. That's the home of Richard Pryor, if you don't know.
22:46And that's where I met, like, all the traveling comedians. And the first person to take me on the road was Todd Berry, who saw me there. Love Todd Berry. Yeah. And then where I was was a college town, so all the big comics would come through. And so Todd then told Rob Delaney, I was going to open for Rob Delaney. And Todd told him, like, make sure you watch your opener. And I remember, like, doing my set and Rob Delaney's, like, at the back of the room with his arms crossed. And then he was like, hey, do you want to tour with me? So I went with him. And he was, like, huge on Twitter then. And so I got to, like, two years in, do these, like, sold out 3 ,000, you know, seat back-to-back shows with him.
23:21And then Hannibal. I just started going with different people. And so by the time I got back to New York, Todd had said, hey, if you're ever in New York, look me up. And I showed up and I was like, remember you said? He was like, no. No, man. No, man. Oh, no. Hey, man. Hey, man. No, man. The cinch is stalking me, coming to my birthday party. That's where I met Eugene Merman. And then I started hanging out with them and Kristen Schell and all those people. So, yeah. There's this, I think it's a common story. I can certainly relate to it. You spend your early years in what feels like the wilderness.
24:01and you're wandering around, you don't think anyone's like you and then you get into a certain little, I don't know, tide pool or something and you meet one person and then that seems to be the reality for a little bit and then you meet one other person, another person and suddenly you're wired into this community and it's a beautiful thing. I was like, whoa, comedians are, you know, I don't know about cool, but yeah, like. Let me see, Todd Berry, Eugene Merman, as cool as can be. But like laughing and hanging out, the extended adolescence, you know. I luckily came in when everybody was on the wagon, so I missed all the alcoholism and drug shit.
24:43There's still time. Yeah, I'm sure. But you know, that's interesting because everyone you've mentioned is really funny. Hannibal, all these people you're mentioning are - And unique. Unique, funny people. And so you start, it's also a school. Yeah. Because you can watch other people and you can understand different rhythms. And it's, I always think it's the same thing as music. I mean, you're just around. I mean, I always say after I met Todd, I did Todd Berry for like a year. Very stoic, didn't move around. Yeah, yeah. And he taught me a lot about the road, how to get paid, make sure you're getting paid.
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25:17Like those two things are the most important. I've worked with Todd and he is very good at getting paid. At getting paid. Him and, him and. Yeah. Todd, you haven't done it yet. Him and. Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't get fucked over by these clubs. And yeah, I learned stuff from everyone. And so, yeah, I feel like I have a it was the best entry into this, you know, business for me, somebody who's already an adult, you know, and super focused because that right in that time I missed I started missing like a lot of shit with my kids, like as entertainers do. And so I was very focused because I was like, this has to be worth it, you know?
25:50Yeah. So you didn't it's you weren't thinking about Abbott Elementary. You weren't thinking about the character of Ava. This was something that came to you and you didn't even jump at it. right no I so we I got that audition during the pandemic I always thought so I hadn't really thought about acting my whole goal at that time was I want to be Chris Rock I had just come off my last tour was with touring with Chris and I was like this is amazing you know and so I was like this is my goal and so I would get auditions from our agents and I would just kind of fuck around with them like especially if I thought it was stupid or whatever I wasn't ever like pressed to get on screen.
26:28I was like, if it happens, it will. And then I always thought one of my friends would get a show and bring me over like Adam Sandler does or whatever. So when I got that script, I really liked it, which is rare, you know, to read a pilot and like, oh shit, this is amazing. And so I remember I wrote Quinta on Twitter and I was just like, your pilot is so good. I know how hard that is to do. I've been trying to write one myself and failing. And she was like, thanks. I said, I think I'm going to audition for Ava. And she said, I didn't know you act. And I was like, I don't know if I do, but I don't know.
26:59I'll try. I love how honest you are. You're not talking. You're not selling yourself or talking your way into it. You're saying, oh, I have no idea. I was really just trying to compliment. I was really impressed. I was like, I'm laughing out loud. I could totally see this. And I remember telling my agent, like, even if I don't get this, this is going to go. It's going to go with or without me. And it was in the middle of the pandemic. So I wasn't I thought we were going to die. I wasn't really trying to do much of anything. Truly. so I had the audition like in my hands for like six weeks and the deadline passed I kept asking for extensions and I just I didn't have the motivation I was depressed I was depressed and then finally my agent was like are you sure like I really think you know I was like fine I had to like pull out all the I couldn't find my ring lights I had my son like holding a floor lamp towards me you know for lighting.
27:55And then I just, yeah, I sent in the self-tape and then I got a call back. So yeah, that's how it happened. And then I did four subsequent like Zoom auditions. The highest compliment you can pay someone is, I cannot imagine that character being someone else. Thank you. In any alternate universe, you're still playing that part. Thank you. I mean, that's how I feel. That's how I feel like it's meant to be. Because again, I waited so long, everyone had already auditioned. It kind of worked out for me in that they were still looking for the person. It was like, oh, this latecomer. And then I found out Quinta, once I did my initial, she just kept sending me up.
28:29They were like, well, can we get a name? Who else do you have? She was like, it's this person. It's this. So she kept, so it kind of worked out that I waited. And yeah, I do totally feel like it's meant to be, which is how I like everything in my life to work. Well, I don't want to chase anything. Yeah, but that's the thing too, is that I feel like you probably, after all these experiences you've had, Not just as a stand-up, but all these experiences you had just trying to make your way in the world. That all, none of that's wasted. That all goes into your ability to look at this character and say, here's what I would do with this.
29:06Yeah. Because. And also, what's the word? Is it empathize? I don't know if it's empathize. But yeah, she's a hustler at the end of the day. Like, that's really what I took out of her ethos. Like, she has same thing like me. Multiple businesses going, even though she's a principal. Why does she own a party bus? Do we know? She has a thriving TikTok shop. You know, she has a rotating closet in hers. You know, she's doing everything. Also, when she unveils the sign that she spent thousands of dollars for a public school that's very much in need of funding. You spent it on a sign that you're on.
29:50Inspiring? Yeah. It's really what I was trying to do. That's the word I wrote down right here. That's what she was trying to do. Thank you. Thank you. Because I don't know anything about - Because what is a thousand dollars when you need millions is how I - But you know, I think empathize is the right word because you're saying these characters don't work if you also don't like them. And the fact is, if you just looked at the character of Ava on paper, I don't know that You would see anything that you would like, but your portrayal of her, I see a lot of qualities. She is fearless. She completely believes her own bullshit.
30:28My favorite characters in comedy are deluded, egotistical. It's to me, it's - That's the entertainment industry, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. It's delusional. People that, I mean, to me, it goes back to Peter Stellar's Clouseau or Don Knotts as Barney Fife. People that don't have the skills, they don't really have any of the backing that they need. They completely believe in themselves 100 percent. I think that's the difference between me and her. Like she has like almost unearned confidence. Yes. And I think my just the coming up in stand up. It's in Hawaii. I mean, them shows I did in the Midwest were horrible.
31:10You know, I'm doing like BFWs with like like a full house of white men just staring at me with their arms crossed. So nothing once I got to Hollywood and acting is scary anymore. And I also had the backing of the grace. I've had Chris Rock tell me, yo, you the real deal. So these are the things that are giving me the confidence to do this character, which is my first role. Yeah, it's kind of unbelievable. But it makes sense to me because early on, I always insisted. What I had was my mind. and I thought, okay, I can develop these other things, but I want to be in control. I don't want to go around and say, I'm a blank slate, someone please cast me.
31:53I knew that I had to form this Conan thing. I kind of knew what it was and I just kept doubling down on it. And I think your story is very inspirational to me because I see you finding yourself and you get to - If you make me cry, swear to God. Again, I'm going to give the credit to the tie stick you brought.
32:26Not only are you going to cry, I'm going to cry and vomit blood. Just smoke ties. Again, do you need me to put it? No, I love it. All right. It is the - I can't tell when you're being - No, but - He's usually not serious. I know. I've never said a serious thing in my life. So that's what I mean, him being, I love it. It didn't mean anything. No, no, no.
32:51Excuse me, just one minute. No, but you took control. I think that has informed everything you've done is you deciding, no, I'm not going to chase anything. I'm going to develop. I mean, what I would think was my worst nightmare was to be, quote unquote, trapped in a character. you know like you're saying you developed your own thing so and i'm and as many stand-ups are it's like i'm a thing unto myself like i am me you know that yeah so then to come to this play this character who's become her own thing really like fucked my head up for the first couple seasons and now i'm like i have to come back to i like this person i think she's interesting how did screw you up a little bit people saying that i'm that person i see that type of thing which i've now intellectualized as oh that's how well i'm doing that people think that i am you mean So people meeting you and thinking you're a deluded, egotistical narcissist.
33:46Yeah, yeah. I get that too. Yeah. You're like that Conan guy. No, that's my character. But also having to like realize, having to realize that they admire it. Like, yeah, we're saying it as like a negative. And they're like, I love that you're this deluded, narcissistic. Also, I always think comedy writers, I know in my career, when I was on The Simpsons, I only wanted to write for Mr. Burns. I only wanted to write - The villain. The villain. It was so much fun that they had to tell me, you can't pitch another Mr. Burns story. All your ideas are about Mr. Burns because he can be infinitely evil.
34:30He can have vast amounts of money. He can have robots in the basement. It's this whole world. and it's the same thing with Ava where she can... Anything. She's almost a cartoon. Yeah. You can come up with all kinds of stuff for her. The hello sign that she aims towards herself. I love it. And I did that to make myself laugh. Quinta was like, leave it. Right, because someone tried to change it. Someone tried to say like... I did it like, ha, isn't that funny? Like it's facing me and then I was like, all right, let me put it back. She was like, no, put it back. That's hilarious. You know, so it's like, yeah no greeting for the outsiders it's you saying hello to myself and explaining who you are yeah yeah it's such a little touch i love it and i love that it's stuck and people yeah yeah but that becomes catnip for writers because it's i think one of the reasons your character just sort of took on its a life of its own is there's no end to it people can have a lot of fun saying oh wait i just thought of something that ava could be doing i mean people watching the show i'm that So that goes back to me being like, oh, no, I'm stuck in this character.
35:35I'm really not because she can do anything. She can do anything. I think more than any of the other characters who are very like, they are their, you know, ethos in their character. Ava can switch up at any time and it won't be a surprise. Were you happy? You're waiting for the switch up, you know? Were you happy when your former boyfriend was revealed to be a... Oh, Iguodala?
36:00is that what you're talking about yeah yeah was i happy you know i mean it's just so hot yeah um quince actually ran that by me um what do you think about this guy and i liked that he was married uh because i was like oh less uh instance for sexual harassment and i was like oh a family man who's also a tall attractive ballplayer who wouldn't want that in their lore that's her lore that she only dates athletes. Which you can keep adding to. Yeah. I mean, she founded the roots. I don't know if you've heard. I forgot about it. And like, no one believed that you knew Questlove and then you showed up.
36:36I don't know how many times I got to bring it to these motherfuckers. That's what I like about her. She's like, she says things and then it turns out to be true. Turns out to be true. That reminds me so much of, I grew up in Boston and Red Sox, of course, are everything. And the star of Pitcher was this guy, Louis Tiant. And we had this, I got to be careful here so I don't get anyone in trouble. I had a teacher who will go unnamed who was just a character and was always spinning stories about hanging out with Fidel Castro in Cuba and escaping Cuba and being shot at and swimming across the ocean to get to America.
37:12you just thought nothing he's saying is true. And he used to talk about how his good friend was Louis Tion, who was the biggest star in Boston. We thought, bullshit, you know, whatever, man. And one day we're all having class. We're on the first floor, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting. And a hand is wrapping on the window and it's wearing a giant pennant ring. No. And we look over and it's Louis Tion banging on this teacher's window. And he goes like, hey guys, I got to go outside and talk to El Tiente and goes outside. And suddenly I realized he he is friends with Castro. Everything else is true.
37:50Everything is true. But it's the same thing. And now he's a teacher. And it's just like, yeah, I'm like this character. Another reason I was mad about the character being characterized with this character is like, I'm like, this is the least interesting thing about me. You know, it's playing this part. So I had to get over that. Yeah. And realize that that means I'm doing a good job. Yeah. that comedian ego. Do you like the part now? You're very well known. It's a hit show. Your character really pops. Do you like being recognized and how do you handle that? Because you're not someone who was three years old saying, I've got to be recognized.
38:29That wasn't you. So how do you do it? Again, I had a very rough first couple of seasons just wrapping my head around all of this, you know? And because you said, it wasn't anything I ever like actively pursued. And then comedians are like, especially standups, we're like contrary loners. You know what I mean? And then to have people think that I'm this character, which I know comes with a performance. Like that's how we're different in that she wants to be famous. And so people approach me as like, this must be great for you that I'm recognizing you because that's what you want because you're that character.
39:06So that was hard for me. And so now I've gotten better because I just stay in the house. What a healthy approach. I saw a therapist and the therapist said, don't leave the house. Everything's better. No, it's been wild. I do have, yeah, therapists, I have two now. They just talk to each other now. Yeah, like, oh, what's going on with this, bro? Yeah. And then I don't want to feel, because then people take that as ungrateful because people think that that's what they want or you want or you wanted fame. I'm like, I just wanted money and to have fun and not to have to perform every time I leave the house, which it does feel like a performance.
39:53Like even when people I'm glad that I'm a villain that people like to see. That's one thing, you know. So everybody's approaching me with like happiness and joy. But that's still like so much energy output for me when I'm just trying to go get some dog food or something. I hope you have a dog. That's all I gotta say. All the actresses. That shit is good. Have you tried it? All the actresses are on a dog food diet now. If that gets out and everyone's eating dog food, it works! Osepic who? Yeah. Are you on dog food? Are you on dog food? All your nutrients? Found Alpo in your garbage can. Do you?
40:38I mean, how do you deal with her? You've been doing that forever. I mean, I know. I know. We ran into each other because I was running up on you. Like, you know, so I, how do you feel about it? I was like, that's going to O 'Brien. I'm very happy that you came running up on me. That didn't happen a lot before I got famous. Women weren't running up on me. And so I say yes to fame. uh well i have two good witnesses here that will tell you because they're with me all the time sona and david and they see me out in the real world and i learned a long time ago there's two types there's um someone like a steve martin who i think is just absolutely brilliant uh comedian legend icon i mean he's up there in the mount rushmore of funny people and he's very reserved and quiet and kind of shy out in public.
41:30And I think a lot of his career has been people not understanding. That crazy guy with the arrow through his head, I saw him, I'll go up to him and I'll give him that energy. Do something wacky. Yeah. Now. Exactly. And it's like they're coming across a very shy art history professor and they're confused. What a jerk. Yeah. And then there are people like, myself who are me all the time to the point where it's probably an illness. I mean, I'm just right off of it. I just like to try and I do the same stuff with the waiter or the person who's selling me the insole for my shoe. I'll do the same thing for them that I would do with you here.
42:21It's no difference. I mean, it depends. For me, if I'm with someone that I think that I feel safe with, I love it. I love talking to people. I'm a comedian. I want to know what's your deal. What do you do? How do you? And I always say that's what this experience has taken from me is talking to strangers, really, because what I'm looking for now is people who don't recognize me. And then I'll have a conversation with them. And I'm like, I leave so energized because I do like people. and then right before I step away, they'll be like, by the way, I love you on the, and I'm like, oh no, did I tell that person where I live?
42:55You know, because that's how I talk to them. I'm like, yeah, I just moved to, where did you eat? I love this restaurant and we'll have a great thing and I'll be like, wow, made a new friend and they're like, I think I already know you. That's what I don't like. And I've also noticed that I will also be more open. Now I'm going to tell people how to fucking approach me, but if they come up and they're like, I love the show. I'm like, thank you so much. I'll do the whole thing, but I'm I'm wary of it. But if they say I've been following you since stand up, I know you're a Netflix special. Then I feel like, oh, you know me.
43:27They know you. And then I'm like, what's up, homie? You know what I mean? So it just depends. I came to your fake restaurant. Exactly. Exactly. So it's I'm working on it. I smoked some of your cigars. Hey, I saw your titties in the 90s. What? What's up, old friend?
43:52me and stern that's where i know you that's where i know you the year is 20 2008 me and my friend stern and here you come cigars and titties i'm like yeah you know the real janelle what's up friends how is your family reacted to all oh my god well my mom just came around because she's Did she love it? My mom is very shy. I am also, and I didn't realize this, I am also kind of surprisingly shy. Yeah. And so my mom is very shy. And so she, for the first couple seasons, wasn't even telling anyone. And then she said, I put a picture of you on my desk and people keep stopping by. Like, what is it? And she's like, that's my daughter.
44:36And they're like, what? She's been, you know, your daughter this whole time or whatever. So now she's kind of leaning in. and also I'm trying to get her used to the fact that I have money and that she can accept things from me that's been a big deal and that she can have nice things that's something I had to work through like oh I can have I have money so it's been so many things all at once my kids don't watch the show they're cool I think that's good I think it's good yeah you know my older son says it's weird to see me like that yeah he's like what is that voice you're doing and who is that but he's like wow you're like i took him just recently to like a talk i did at a at a college and just him seeing how people react to me which people cry with me and i'm always like i'm not mj like it's it's cool i'm just a lady but people cry and like shaking my son was like what the fuck like yeah you're famous and i was like yeah yeah this shit is wild and that was just a couple weeks ago and that's like the first real conversation we've had about because I try to tell them, but it's not to your my mom, too.
45:44We I took her to New York. We went to Broadway. People are chasing us. My mom, she's so tiny with her little legs running and she was so anxious. She's just like, what the fuck? Like they don't. It's been crazy for all of us. But yeah, again, I I just stay in the house. Yeah, she's a hologram right now. I'm beaming in. We we assembled the studio in your house. I'm like, oh, why do celebrities live in the mountains? I know now. You know, it's so nice to see someone's work from afar, just see their work and admire them and then meet them. Conan O 'Brien just said that. No, no, but what I'm saying is admire them and then meet them.
46:27And they're just who you would want them to be, which is you are yourself. I am. You are yourself and there's no changing that. And so many people would have been warped, bent, twisted. stretch by this experience. I wish I could lean in, though. I wish I could be like, yes! I don't know. That's what Ava would do. Yeah. I'd be out as her. But you know what? I'm leaving so much money on the table. I know. I can perform as her. Welcome to the Ava extravagance. I could probably have a fucking Vegas show. All kind of shit. There's still time. Don't say no to it. Later on, maybe. Don't say no to it.
46:59Yeah, yeah. You know, there's always time for that. Yeah. And in fact, it's not time for that right now. It's time for you, you know, to see this character through. Now, some people are speculating because your character got fired. Facts. For a couple hours. Yeah. At most. You would all panic when that happened. I didn't think you would be. I was like, oh, I'll go back on the road. I wonder what Chris is doing. Like, I was like, I was like, I mean, that's the benefit of having multiple skills. Like, and I mean, I've, I've quit jobs for, for any reason before. Or again, I'm always on the hustle.
47:37I'm like, okay, well, if you think that's the best thing for the show, for me to be off of it, I agree with you, Quinta. You're a fucking genius. Thank you so much for the opportunity. She's like, no, you'll be back the next episode. I was like, oh, I don't even get some days off.
47:53Can't your character be in a coma? Can't Ava be in a coma and you still get paid just as much? How many days? Can I go to Mexico? Like, what's going on? No, I was back the next episode. But that was very thrilling for me because people still come up to me now. So that happened last season, months ago. And people still come up to me now like, let me know when you're back on the show so I can start watching again. And I'm like, dude, I was on the next episode. People were like, I don't watch it anymore. They fired you. Why would they do that? So that was like gratifying for me. Like, oh, wow. I'm a thing.
48:22Yeah. Yes, you are a thing. Thank you. Absolute delight. Thank you, Conan. To get to meet you, get to know you. I think I told you when I met you, I wanted to do time on your show and then I was too precious about my little five minute set and then all of a sudden you weren't there anymore. Well, here we are. This is, I mean, who knows what I was going to say back then. Yeah, exactly. My dad is dead. Killing, look at me crushing. See, still got it. Still got it. I'm sorry. It's just such a funny line. My dad is dead. It just kills every time. That was probably my set back then. Yeah. No, it's just, you know, So one of the things that makes me really happy, this has been a real gift to me, is this podcast format, which was invented by people long before me.
49:08And I just came along and it fits me like a glove because what I really want to do - Love your travel series as well. Oh, thank you so much. You're the best at talking to people. Anyway, I love you. Thank you so much. But what I love to do is, in the old days, it would have been you. Yeah, it would have been you doing your set and me coming over and thanking you and us standing together for a second. Walking from the desk. and shaking my head. Yeah. And then goodnight. We'll be right back. Janelle James, everybody. Ba-na-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Credits. This, to me, is more meaningful. Thank you.
49:39Because we really get to talk about some stuff. I mean, how many listeners you got on this? We got a lot. Okay, great. I don't do numbers, but... I'll be the judge of meaningful numbers. I know. I'm sorry. I refuse to be here today. It's okay. I was doing a bit like, how meaningful is it? We shall see. Could quantify it. Will my followers. No. A lot. We have a lot of people listening and they're all the greatest people ever. Yeah. You are your fan base. I always say that. Yeah. Janelle, you are just a delight. And I do hope you come back sometime. Anytime. And I hope we are friends for real because that would be, seriously, that'd be a nice thing for me.
50:24You would up my friend game. I feel like I let everybody says that. and then I'm in your backyard and you're like how'd you get here no you don't I really don't have a lot of friends and I'd be so happy to I'll come to your house and I'll hang out I just got a pool what's that I just got a pool what's the shape of the pool is it kidney shaped nope it is oh is it kidney shaped it's bulbous it's more squash shaped is it kidney the mind wanders I'm here for your bulbous pool Janelle welcome is what I will say. Oh my God. The way you just invited yourself over. I'm going to ring your bell. Here for bulbous pool.
51:02Who is that? I don't know. I can't see, but I think it's Conan O 'Brien. I'm going to say, here's your incense. Please cleanse yourself before you enter and let's have a great time. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you. I mean, I've had the, this was so great. Oh, great. And easy. Love it. We all win. And my close, you guys, you know what? I'm going to go home and my wife's going to say, who are you cheating on? Catholic nun.
51:28you smell like parsimmon
51:42let's do a review the reviewers i like it i like to keep my finger on the pulse of what the podcasting listeners believe feel that's right this is where we go to apple podcasts and we take a five-star review. Okay. Not hard to find. Hey. It's nice. Okay. So you're weeding out all the no-star reviews. Yeah. I don't think you can give no-stars. You have to do one. I'll find a way. To your own podcast? Yes. I'm going to load up our comment section with no-star reviews. All right. And we read it and we review it or if there's a question we'll answer it. Yep. This is from Annalise0912. The title is Best Podcast Ever.
52:23Wow. Wow. Yeah. I listened to this all day at school. I have absolutely no idea what's going on in any of my classes, but I'm sure I'll figure it out. The bad thing about listening to this at school, though, is that I can't laugh out loud. And believe me, I really want to. Seriously, if you look over at me while I'm listening, you would see tears streaming down my face, me quivering and shaking with laughter, and my face as red as a tomato. I'll often at times have to go to the bathroom, and I'll sit there and just laugh. I'm sure everyone thinks I'm a big creep, but I could care less because Conan is so funny.
52:56Also, Sona and Matt, pure gold. I'm only 16 years old, so I love getting to know guests that I've never heard of. I think that y 'all should make a Team Coco iPhone app. You can have full episodes of all Conan shows, not just the clips like YouTube, remotes, podcasts, and anything Team Coco related. My screen time would be off the charts if y 'all do that. Anyways, love the podcast and love Conan. First of all, I love Annalise0912. and thank you so much. What a great comment. And I, I mean, Adam, you can get involved in this. Why aren't we an app? Why aren't we an app? I think the main ask I heard out of that is that she wants the full episodes.
53:37And my guess is that this review was written before we started releasing full episodes. So we're doing what she wants. And you don't have to go to an app. You go to YouTube where everyone has access to. This was a year ago. Yeah. So I think it's - So now she's 17 and despises us. Oh, no. And that's how far back I had to go to find a five-star review. The part of my brain that determines what's of quality developed in the last year. No, it's really nice. I mean, I usually push aside compliments, but we just have to take this. It's so nice. Are you worried, though, that she's in high school and she's listening to this during class?
54:15You know, no. because I remember in high school learning nothing that was of use to me. And I'm just, come on. When was the last time you used any of your math skills, Sona? You still walk around with an abacus. Graduated in high school. Exactly. I know, I know. I used to write disco rules on all the tables I sat on. Did you really? I don't know why. But disco didn't rule when you were in high school. I think it was just me being like silly and ironic and I would just be like, disco rules because I didn't think it ruled. But I also, maybe I did go through a bit of a disco phase. It's a fun genre.
54:51I like disco. But I think that what I'm excited about is she's young. Yeah. I know. Young people, I really want them to like me. Really? Do you guys ever feel that way? Or is it just me? He does, for sure. Like, I change. I want young people to assist me. Help me up if I fall in. Guide me to the part of the iPhone that I can use, you know? I mean, that's I'm mostly looking to young people for I actually I will say this. This is honest. I love the enthusiasm of young people. I really do like that. And when when young people are happy, I'm happy. It's a weird. I don't know if that's weird to say, but I am.
55:31I think that because I tried to think I was hip for a while. And then now I've completely lost touch with 16 year olds where I don't know what they're interested in. And I think that when they like something that I'm involved in, it makes me feel good. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? I like this. I like this very much. And I have to say, when I'm cruising around, not cruising. What? Were you cruising? There was a time in the late 70s, early 80s when I was cruising. It was after the Al Pacino movie Cruising came out. And I didn't understand what it was about. Don't even know what that movie is. I just thought it meant having a nice walk.
56:04Did he cruise? Yes, he certainly did. He's an undercover cop that went in underground. in the gay scene to solve a murder. Oh, cruising like that. Yeah, I didn't know what it was. So I wore the same outfit that Al Pacino wore in cruising, which was all leather and a leather cap. And I would go and I would yell, I'm cruising around and I'd walk around. I didn't know what it meant. But boy, certain people were very friendly to me. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. What's important is just walking around. A lot of young people say they enjoy this silliness. So that's nice. I wonder what our youngest listener is that finds it on their own, not that their parents listen.
56:41That would be in utero, I think. You think so? Yeah, there are obstetricians that say you should be, there's a way you can just put the podcast up to your belly and a child as it's forming, a fetus can be listening to this nonsense. Can you imagine that? If a child is formed with only this as its influence? Yeah, it comes out and it's just, it wants to immediately buy all the products we mentioned in the ads. Oh man, that's dark. What qualities does it take from us? I think it's loud. It's needy. I don't think that's my one quality. Well, we're talking dominant qualities. I know. What is your dominant quality?
57:18That I must dominate. Oh, what are you going to dominate? That's true. This conversation. And then... You can say it. I don't want to say nerdiness. I knew you were going to. But you knew that then. Why did you make me say it? You knew. Why didn't you just say it? I'm not going to take your idea and do it for you. When a baby's born wearing a straw boater.
57:43And wearing a t-shirt that says Whittier Rocks. I'm more worried about the mother's birth process with a straw boater on that baby's head. It gets slightly knocked askew. After that, it's fine. Is it a boy or a girl? I don't know, but it's wearing a straw boater.
58:02And it wants to get to the Rose Bowl, swap meet immediately. That does come up a lot. I've literally never once been to the Rose Bowl flea market. You've never been? Even I've been. But you sit just outside the Rose Bowl and wish you could go in. They won't let me in. Yeah. You're blacklisted because they're too scared? I've been to the Pasadena City College one, though. It's pretty good. That one's really good, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was escorted out. He's not allowed back to the Rose Bowl anymore. Why? He shoplifted a loot. You know what? that's not true because I'm going there this weekend to see Oasis motherfuckers me too you are Saturday yes me too what are you doing are you coming no I do like Oasis though I love those Gallagher those Gallagher fellas it's a different Gallagher than the one you're thinking of with the sledgehammer it's Peter Gallagher Peter Gallagher no I honestly thought that Peter Gallagher was one of the Gallagher brothers because he's got the eyebrows yeah he does you know and And they won't tour with him because they really hate him.
59:06Yeah, they just thought his work on the OC was inferior. Shout out to Peter Gallagher. Love you, man. All right, what's that? Enough nonsense. Knock it off, you eight balls. Come on. All right. Hey, a shout out to Annalise0912. Very much appreciate your encouragement and just try and study some, just some, okay? All right. I look forward to you being my surgeon. Take care.
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