Javier Bardem

26:41I said, well, why don't you try to read this? And I was going to play this little role. And I said, okay, I'll play that as an experiment. But then the person who was going to play the lead fell apart from the project. And he told me, will you do it? No, I don't. I don't want to do it. Yeah, you are doing it. You have a month. I said, fuck, okay, I'll try. And then I did it, but I never expected that anybody would watch that movie. And it happened that I was nominated for an Oscar for it, which is weird because I thought nobody's going to watch it. Who cares? I'm just going to see if I can play in English.

27:18So, and all the movies that I thought this is a masterpiece, They were like buried. That happens again and again and again in this business. It's never the thing you think. Absolutely. You think, okay, this is it. And it's not. And sometimes I try to encourage people because there have been times in my life where the thing that I thought was going to really make me early on when I was younger didn't happen. And then I could see later on if that thing had happened, the thing I was meant to do wouldn't have happened. It all gets very mystical, but I believe in it. I believe there's something to it.

27:51You should try podcasting in Spanish. Es importante que nosotros... Look at that! You are a graduate of Madrid's Escuela de Artes y... Officios. Officios, sí. Pero, Eduardo... I take it back. Don't cut to Eduardo. Eduardo. Don't say... Habla, habla, habla. I just about ran out. Just ask Eduardo. Eduardo. I just have to keep saying Eduardo. to fill it out. Eduardo. I think the word is ayúdame. Ayúdame, por favor. Let's say claro, claro. Claro que sí, sí. But when you talk about not speaking English, you know, so many people in the United States were so... Don't speak English. They actually really don't.

28:44They really don't. Some of them were presidents. Some of them were presidents. But it's funny. we almost forget. I mean, because we are so self-absorbed and we think, well, we all speak English and it must be nothing to speak English. And of course it's a very, it's not an easy language. And, and then when you're, when this is your craft and you have to learn to adapt to this other language, I was told that you, there's a particular rock band that helped you learn English. ACDC. Oh, yeah. All the curves, all the bad words, all the things I learned from ACDC. Fuck yeah. And I'm still learning. I'm still learning.

29:24So just certain ACDC songs, and you thought, this I can plug into this, and this will help me learn. There's a song called If You Want Blood, You've Got It, High Voltage, Let There Be Rock. Those were the first songs. And you have to understand that I'm 54. I will have tapes. I will open the tape, will get the lyrics, and the lyrics were in Spanish. They weren't translated. it. So for me, it was like, what is he saying? Because they are not singing in Spanish. And I was trying to make sense of the word in Spanish and what I was hearing. And then I would go to a dictionary and then, because of that, I would learn that word on top or that word below.

30:07So that's made me learn English because I want to learn the lyrics. You know, it's so funny because I've watched your very earliest performances and you come on stage and you're like, she's got a

30:20You're way up there. You're shrieking. You're supposed to be saying I love you and very tenderly or we must escape before the guards come. We must escape before the guards come. Yeah. Yeah. Could you please just the words are right, but could you take it down a little bit? Yeah. You're right. I love those guys. yeah it's so funny because uh you know just traveling around the world and doing travel shows uh i've seen them all people come up to me and they say um i've learned english by watching your shows and i think that's a terrible mistake but it is funny how pop culture uh you know how pop culture is so important to people that it's often the bridge it's not that they want to read this Dickens book in the original.

31:15It's that they really want to watch that soap opera, or they want to watch that TV show, or that music video, or sing that song. Absolutely. And that's the bridge for them to jump into something else and deeper and deeper. And that's why it's so important to watch, in Spain, the original versions, the movies in their original version, because we dub almost everything. and that's such a big mistake and thanks to the platforms now the youth, the new generation speak way better English more English than I used to speak when I was 20 because now they see the things on the original version but in Spain it's impossible to find one movie in the original version there are only one, two, three, four movie theaters in all Spain maybe two in Madrid, two in Barcelona and that's such a big mistake because, first of all, we are giving our language for those movies and at the same time, we are not helping the audience to understand what they are watching since you can't dub Marlon Brando, you can't dub Robert De Niro, you have to see it in our universe, you can't dub John Malkovich.

32:30You have to hear those voices. It's part of their richness. is no i i find that now in this age of streaming i can there's so many great foreign tv shows movies i prefer i like the subtitles because i like to hear the language absolutely and um i think uh spanish is such a beautiful language and i just love to hear it spoken i love to hear it spoken and the same is true with uh i was just taping a travel special in bangkok and i turned on the tv and there was one station for some reason that was broadcasting the news in french and i was watching it and i just was like watching it for a while and i couldn't understand what was happening but the language is so beautiful but i find that just being exposed these different languages it's mute some of them are music and of course some languages are not music German is not music but but yeah I wouldn't want to watch you know there's so many great films that I would want to see if they're in Spanish I want to hear them in Spanish and of course I need the guide to help me understand what's happening I'm always struggling to because when I say that those things in Spain or in Europe they go hey wait wait and it's true that the dubbers in Spain they're some of the best in the world and I'm not against that.

34:00They have to make a job and that's why I don't dub my own movies. It's like when I do a movie like Little Mermaid. It's in English. Okay, the version in Spanish is going to be dubbed by somebody else. I'm not dubbing it. So everybody wins. The audience wins. I win because I stay home and I don't do the hard job. And the dubber wins because he has a job. Everybody wins. But what if you hear the dubbing and you really don't like the voice? I try to avoid to hear it because it's hard for me to see myself with another voice. I'm telling you this for a reason. They asked me to dub you in Spanish. Oh, no.

34:34I knew it. I knew it. And apparently advanced reviews are just brutal. It's just you going Eduardo. Eduardo? Why is King Triton... No, he's supposed to be talking to Ariel and giving her advice. Sí, pero Eduardo, Eduardo. Ayúdame, es importante que nosotros vamos al teatro. What?

35:00and all the kids like crying why is Javier Bardem sound like that he sounds terrible uh who have been the people that you've met when you uh achieved this level where you're going to these premieres you're going to these places and there's an actor that you idolized and they look at you and they're excited to see you when they come over do you have there's anyone who pops for you where you think oh my god well i have conan o 'brien okay okay yeah yeah all right well that was a big moment for you that was a big moment for me and it's always a big moment okay that's the peak but what's near the peak that's near the gods stuff now talking about humans I will say Al Pacino yes Al Pacino Al Pacino sent me he called me after watching Before Night Falls but it was two o 'clock in the morning in Spain and it was a time where there was a tape a answering machine with tape remember so I was sleeping I was like who's calling and then hi hi Javier it's Al Pacino and they were like and I couldn't get the phone like Al Pacino is calling my home I saw the movie I liked it a lot and congratulations I was like and then I went and I play and I play it again and I play it again and I have the tape I have the tape so the first day I met him in Toronto Film Festival I went to the toilet and I took a picture with a camera no phones at the time of my face in the mirror because my face was like I'm going to meet Al Pacino And the good thing about it all is that he's such a wonderful man.

36:43Yes, yeah. So when you meet someone that you admire so much, you go, and he's even better than you would imagine. Yeah, my first encounter with him, because I grew up on the Godfather movies and then Serpico and it just, you know, Dog Day Afternoon. And it just, I mean, he is such above a star to me. He's something else. And so I was working on an award show here in the States. And I think I was in LA. And I did my thing and went all right. And then I go backstage and it's between, it's in a commercial break. So I go backstage and suddenly they're bringing all this scenery through. They say, clear the way, clear the way.

37:26So I get pushed into this little room, literally pushed into a little room to make way for these guys to come through. And I look around and it's just a room with me, a tiny room, like the size of a phone booth. And it's me and Al Pacino. And I'm stump struck and he goes, Connor O 'Brien. And liquid shit just comes out of, I urinated it, I defecated. I mean, this is awful. Like it came out of every pore. Connor O 'Brien. And I went, Mr. Pacino, you have no idea. And I just tell him how much he makes me new. He's like, and then he puts it back on me. He's like, no, you, a tightrope every night.

38:03a new script you gotta wing it madness you know he's just going on about how oh sure i've done the godfather but i saw you with al roger you know but i thought this is no sir no sir and i just blew my mind and then every now and then i'll be in new york in a restaurant and it just happened recently where i hear conan and it's and he's there in the corner in a restaurant and uh and i get to have these little conversations with him and what i found is in the last one i'm so self-conscious about taking up his time that'll have a few back and forth with things with him the other and then i'll say like well you know have a great meal and so nice to see you and i run away and then he apparently because i ran to this woman who was at the table a couple days later coincidentally at this other event and she said i was like why did he run away i ran away because i'm scared you're al pacino i don't want to wish he fled he flew why did he go but uh yeah that would be one i would think yeah yeah he's he's just a guy that uh and i read somewhere and this is something that i completely agree with because i'm on record as saying this a long time ago but you were stir struck and had a bit of a man crush on brad pitt oh yeah who doesn't thank you of course because there are many times where women have said to me about men don't you think he's attractive and i'm like i just i i don't know i don't you know it doesn't But Brad Pitt, I think, damn.

39:29Yeah. I'd sleep with that guy. Of course. I don't even know how it works, but I would do as I was told. That's Brad Pitt. I'd have someone explain to me what my role is in this. Am I up top? Am I down below? Am I against the... I don't care. It doesn't matter. Somebody told me. I'll just do it. I'll just do it. Do a series of drawings. A diagram. But I mean, it really is like, he's so charismatic and good looking. And I don't know. Exactly. I agree with that. So maybe the three of us, we have something to do together. Well, listen, you're the one that has the pull here. The call has to come from you, Javier.

40:12And then when she says like, you know what? I really love you, Javier. And yes, you and I should get together. Then's when you have to say, there's one person I want to bring along. And Brad's probably like, oh, well, it's, you know, I don't know. I guess it's another huge, you know, It's Tom Cruise or it's Ben Affleck. No, no. I full time.

40:38It's happening. It's happening. It's happening. He doesn't know it yet, but it's happening. When does this come out? Does this come out soon? This comes out on Brad Pitt Threesome Day. This coming Monday. Guys, I'm here to promote a movie for kids. Okay? let's bring this up hey when he said threesome he meant bicycle built for three that's right a ride to the park let's talk about because it's funny because I heard you were when I first heard that you were doing The Little Mermaid and I heard King Triton I was thinking okay I'm trying to and this is live action this is not animated and then I saw a picture of you as King Triton and it's this this man is born to play King Triton you have I mean I've always thought you have a regal face you really do you look thank you sir Doesn't he have the face that I could see?

41:27Of course, you have to say yes. If he's asked that question, you go, no? No, they often. That would be great. It is my inclination to gain, say, and neglect whatever he says. He actually does disagree with me most of the time. But you have to see photos of him. You shouldn't even call it up on your show. I'm shocked I haven't yet. You are so regal. And I look at that photo and I think no one else could play King Triton in live action. It's fantastic. I'm so happy that it happened. And also, I texted Rob Marshall, which I wanted to work with since many years ago. And I said, if there is such a thing as a King Triton with an accent, would you consider me to play it?

42:08And he said, I swear to God, I'm in the grocery shop talking to John about you. And I was going to call you in five minutes. Oh, my God. That happened. I said, really? So I said that to my then seven-year-old girl. Luna is her name. I'm going to be in The Little Mermaid. And she went, are you going to play Ariel? No. No. You start looking for your Anton Chigurh wig. I could die at red. Adler, though. Now I want to see you as Ariel, though. Oh, my God. He's that good an actor. He can do anything. I know. But I said, no, I'm going to play the father. And she was crying. Oh, I'm so happy. So I was like, Rob, you know, you can't imagine how happy you made me and my daughter by this offer.

42:58And they are watching the movie in Spain in the premiere, and I can't wait for them to see it. They're going to be thrilled. My child, Leo, is 12 now. Because we start to shoot this movie in January 2020. But then we have to stop because of the pandemic. He was 10, and he was excited. Now he pretends, no, that's for Luna. I'll bring only 45 friends to the screening, but that's not my kind of movie. Right, right, right. But three years ago, he was like, yeah. But no, he will love it. That's why I do Dune as well for him. I do Dune for him, I do Mermaid for her, and I get the paycheck for both. Which is good, too, because they have to go to college.

43:45It helps. The Dune movies are so visually stunning. I mean, just mind-blowing, mind-blowing. And even though when I was first watching it, the first Dune that came out a few years ago, I didn't understand the significance of every single moment, but as a whole, it was so beautiful and powerful. It just looks different. We're flooded with so many intergalactic movies, and then there's so much artistry in the Dune films. I think Denis really has created something unique in the sense that he really created the universe. I mean, everybody that works in those movies are at the top of their game. The wardrobe, the lighting, everything, the designs, everything.

44:33So the first one was amazing, but I think the second one, I haven't seen it, but it was there. I think the second one is going to be really something out of proportion. in the sense that the sets that I saw, the sets that they built, they were huge, and they were filled with so much art inside, and the lightning and the wardrobe, everything is really magical. And I saw the trailer, and I called Denny like, man, what is this? I'm in it, and I can't believe I'm in it, because it's one of those movies that you feel like an actor, oh, I wish I could be in one of those. well I'm in it and he's adorable he's a great have you have you ever interviewed Denis Villeneuve no no I have not he's great he's rumored for the next Bond film he will do it for sure amazingly well for this movie how does it work are you are they using wires are you in a harness how does it work when you're doing a live action Little Mermaid I have no idea it's all in the studio and they they put us in these rigs and called fork, whatever.

45:51I don't know. It's some stuff that the Olympic athletes use to train to make leaps on the air. Oh, yeah, flips. Flips on the air. And what they do is they put you in a harness. There's a long arm. And then you can go vertical. You can go horizontal. You can go like this because they move it. And it takes like six to ten people around the thing, the machine, to move it around. So it's a choreography. You have to talk to the director who will say, I want him here and then there. And then here it goes up, here it goes down. And you have to do your fishy moves with the shoulders to make believe that you are a fish.

46:41Please tell me they call them fishy moves. That's how I called it. I know. It was perfect. I just wish that that was actually in the dialect they used. Yes. And I don't know how they do it. I saw the movie and still don't believe how good it looks. You know what's interesting is the amount of trust you have to have. You know, we're having this moment here. You're there. I see you. We're a couple of inches apart, and this is it. And this is a situation where you're getting all this makeup, and then you're being put in the fishy move 4 ,000 machine. And spun around, and it's total trust that someone's going to take care of this, and then it's going to look awesome.

47:22Absolutely. And the only thing you have to do is to try to learn the lines, say the lines, and forget about the whole noise around you because it's huge. And try to be honest and try to go back to what it means to perform and be able to be relaxing within all of these things around you. because, as you said, it's a big leap of faith. And then with that, somebody else will do something else. And when I watch the movie again, yes, of course there's a lot of CGI, but it's so beautifully done, it's so realistically done, and at the same time it has so much magic that I'm not pulled off by it. I go like, wow, I believe that they are under the water.

48:04It's something else. It's something else. But, I mean, it's also been true since The Wizard of Oz. you can have all that stuff, but you look at the quality of the acting in The Wizard of Oz and that's what makes you, sucks you in every time. Absolutely. And that's hard. And also do it over and over and over again. So it's not, as Marlon Brando said, everybody's a performer because we all act in our lives in order to survive. But the professionals have to repeat it constantly. And that's true. And also do it on command. On command. And go, you know, action. Yes. And then you have to have that scene, you know Anton Chigurh has to walk in to that gas station and have that scene even though you're not ready you don't feel like but that's also just the training absolutely the years and years of training yeah the training and also the there's a moment where you have to let go and and embrace the fear and say okay I can't control anything anything anymore and it's all about getting lost in what you're doing and and try to find meaning or sense in in the journey while you're doing it, rather than going with everything marked and knowing where you're heading and what's the goal.

49:15No, you just go there. You work hard in order to understand the whole picture. Now you jump into the abyss and see if it makes sense. But again, it's movies. So somebody will make sense of it. If you didn't make the sense, somebody will make it happen. In theater, it's different, of course. Theater, it's like, okay, you are so exposed that if you get lost, then people will notice. Right. You actually see them get up and start to walk out.

49:46Unfortunately, I have the ability, if it's 3 ,000 people in a theater and I will see the one person who gets up and walks out. And maybe it's just to use the bathroom, but it'll get in my head. Absolutely. It's like the one bad review of a movie that is going very well. So yeah, but that guy didn't like what I did. Do you read stuff about yourself? I used to read a lot. Now I'm 54. I don't care anymore. I think it's really healthy to get to a point where you think, I'm only on this earth for a while. I'm going to make an honest effort. If someone likes it, great. If they don't, I can't. The line I keep coming back to is, Jeff Daniels, I think, was doing some show, And I think critics, some liked it, but some had different opinions about it.

50:36And he said, you know, I can't help you guys. And I remember thinking that's so much how I feel at this point, which is, you know, at my age after all these years. If you don't like what I'm doing, I respect that, but I can't help you. Absolutely. And that's very liberating. and also it is, yeah, it's giving yourself a credit that you own and that you earn by the time that you were working so hard in order to be where you are. I mean, it's, but again, when somebody says something negative, it hurts. Yes, of course it does. It hurts. And you know what? They sometimes think it doesn't hurt you because you're Javier Bardem or, you know, I'm a comedian who's been around for a long time.

51:16They think, well, that won't really get to them. No, it hurts as much as it did when you were a kid and someone made fun of you. It hurts exactly that much. Exactly, good point. If you're a real person and you're still here, it has to hurt just as much. Exactly. And if you get to the point where nothing like that hurts you, your work can't be any good. That's a good point. You made me think about the bullying, yeah. The little kid being bullied by other people's opinions. And they can be cruel. And, of course, I had all those things where they were throwing at me many bad adjectives that will hurt a lot in Spain for whatever reason, either professionally or personally, because I was defending that cause or that other.

51:58And then is when I stopped reading it because like this is hurting me a lot. I don't deserve this. And as you said, I'm trying to do my best, but I will never be able to be liked by everyone. So give up that dream. But it's a good point. Yeah, it's a good point. I don't know what you said, but it was a good point. That's exactly Matt's job. I don't know what you said, boss, but it was the best. Javier, you have a very busy schedule, and I just want to tell you, I'm going to wrap this up, but it is beyond a thrill to see you again. And you've always been so nice to me, and I am such a crazy fan of your work and of you as a person.

52:44Thank you, Conan. And I hope someday when I'm rambling around, we've always thought, I always want to do these travel shows and I've always thought, we've talked about it. Someday I'll come to Spain and we'll figure out a way. I don't care what I have to do. We'll work around the schedule where maybe I accidentally go through your kitchen and you're there. And maybe you beat the shit out of me or something. I'll be there, my friend. I'll be there. If I get to hit you, I'll be there. Anyway, Javier Bardem, This was my favorite podcast in quite a while. And you're a great man. Thank you so much.

53:17Thank you so much. Thank you, everyone.

53:25Well, by now you've done some work in New York. You've done some sessions and some recordings. It's a podcast in New York, including one that Adam and Sona and I want to talk to you about. This hasn't happened at the time of this recording, but we all feel a little, what would the word be, sad? Jealous. Jealous. Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. I honestly don't. The three of us have a massive crush on Matthew Rhys. And we just want you to send him our love. Yeah, I don't know if I can do that. Oh, come on. Yeah. Why? Well, first of all, my time is very valuable. And Matthew Rhys is, I mean, God, it's such a brilliant actor and raconteur.

54:06I just love that he's coming on the podcast. so to waste time saying, hey, before you get going, there are these people. You don't have to do it before you get going. It can be after. It can totally be after. The first time he was on, it was over Zoom. And I think we all sort of fell head over heels. Yeah. And none of us are gonna be able to meet him in person this time. Yeah. Yeah. Here's how it's gonna go. My plan is that if Matthew Rhys ends up being on this podcast a total of six times. Yeah. none of you will ever meet him. Come on. Do you purposely plan really cool? I mean, we've had a lot of really cool guests.

54:43But sometimes you really get someone you know we're going to love and then you do it somewhere else and we can't be there. You did this with Oliphant the second time you had him on in New York. Yeah, he was on New York because Oliphant and I, it's a special time when we're together. I was cool with the way that one worked out. Yeah, because you were there. You were there too. I got to spend a lot of time with him. Oh, congrats. Another massive segment with him. So great. Wait a minute. To be fair, when I interviewed Tommy Lasorda, you guys were here. You know, so you got him. You weren't even here for that.

55:17No, I mean, whenever there's an older baseball manager, I always make sure that you guys get to meet. I just think we're a team. And sometimes you go rogue and I get it. It's your podcast and stuff. But still. No, no, no. Don't be silly. It's our podcast. I just happen to be the star. did that come out right? no it's I don't know did it? I guess I just want to meet Matthew Rhys so do I and you're getting in the way you're cock blocking all of us you're pod blocking us I'll tell you what I'll do if you guys can write me a little message or something to him we could record a little message for him right now I'd prefer you write a message and then just trust that I'll give it to you what do you mean you won't though you'll lose it what would you say to matthew reese that is so important dear matthew oh i didn't realize this was a let's go around the table a school school essay a fifth grade essay hi my name is sona movsessian you don't know me but i watched you in the americans and i love you what's it like to be married to carrie russell i love her curls You're a lucky guy.

56:30She's a lucky girl. I hope we're friends one day. Love, Sonam Obsession. Okay. If that was your intention, if that's what you were going to say to him, I'm really happy that you're not going to New York. Okay, wait. You can't say shit like that to Matthew Rhys. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Compliment his wife, who I loved, who's a curly hair icon. Yeah, I can. They both are. I would start with Americans, but then I would really lean into his last appearance on the podcast and how he just blew us away with his humor, which, you know, you don't always get to see because he's such a great actor and has a lot of serious roles.

57:03But he has such a good personality, so charming. Was actually really, I remember him being so nice to us. I think when we were getting him like all set up with his Zoom, he was just, I think we all just kind of became best friends with him in that moment, but haven't spoken to him since. And so we'd love to. I think this is all unprofessional and borderline creepy. Well, you haven't even heard mine yet. Oh, I'm sure this will right the boat. Off you go, freaky. Hey, Matt. What's it like having the same name? Pretty cool, huh? You're from Wales, and I'm from Whittier. Two W places. I really loved Perry Mason.

57:45I love you a lot, too. If you want to just hang out, hit up my man, Conzy. He's got my deets. And I miss you. Thank you. Who has control over what happens? Eduardo, you have these tapes now, do you not? I know where they are. Tapes. Okay. Digital. Recordings. Recordings. Okay. Okay. I don't know. How do you, what do you refer to them as now? Recordings. You have these wax cylinders. Yes. Make sure that they're in my possession. Yeah. What are you going to do with them? I'm going to hand deliver them to Matthew Reese. That's what I'm going to do. And you're going to trust that I did it. He can just email it to his rep.

58:24files. Yeah. You can just email him to his dad right now. Yeah. No, no, no. We can do it right after this podcast. Nope, that's not the way I like to do it. I like to give the personal touch. I'm going to write a little handwritten note with it and then you guys are just going to trust that I gave these to Matthew Reese. Do you think you purposely keep us away because you're embarrassed of us a little bit? I'm going to say that's 80 % true. What's the other 20 %? That I get more focus on me. So it's embarrassment that you guys will screw it up And then there's 20 % of it is me just wanting more time with Matthew Rhys.

58:58I get it. One idea I had was just hear me out. We could talk to Paula about rescheduling. Maybe for when we can all be there with Matthew Rhys. Oh, let me just check my schedule and see if that works. No, it can't. That's not your schedule. No, no, no, no. I'm entering the priesthood shortly after we should. So, oh, and then I'm in the circus. Yeah, it doesn't work out. Oh, and then I'm working for that Zeppelin company. for those reasons just relax why don't you do this just trust that I form a strong enough connection with Matthew Reese that he wants to come back and on the third go round you guys will get to be behind glass when I interview him you could fly us out too just for that day no no this podcast is hemorrhaging money because of a certain Matt Gourley's spending habits that he charges when he buys stuff now, kooky stuff at the Rose Bowl swap meet, he charges it to the podcast.

59:56That's true. He bought a 1938 Zamboni. It's a hipster thing. I now have 36 through 48 all year Zambonis. True story, my wife is her step-grandma was a Zamboni. She was heir to the Zamboni fortune. Is that true? Is she Mrs. Zamboni? I just threw out Zamboni from the random part of my brain. What? That's a real That's a family name? It's her step-grandma's maiden name, and she was a wealthy heiress of the Zamboni family. I don't know what else to say. Does that, Matthew, you listen? Is that pretty cool? Well, more proof that you should get a lot of talking time with Matthew Reese. Loved you. Loved Perry Mason.

1:00:41Yeah, that's great. No, guys, just let me handle the heavy hitters, all right? You guys are all fun. When we book someone on the podcast who was third lead in a movie that didn't really go. I'm very comfortable with you being here. But when it's these heavy hitters, I think I need to handle it myself. You understand? I feel like they notice our absence though. Yeah. I feel like he, I feel like - The way you notice the absence of pain. Yes. I feel like he's going to be like, hey, we're Matt and Sona and Adam. And then I'm going to be like, and then you have to have that awkward conversation. What if he listens to this podcast?

1:01:19He's a fan. What if he listens to this podcast? Could be. A lot of guests listen to the podcast. Yeah. Please. Some. Some do. Yes, some do. Tommy Lusardo. A lot of people do. This is a very, very successful podcast. But no. Matthew Rhys, I assure you, he's a classically trained Welsh actor. He's a man. He's a good looking guy. Charming. Charming. He is. He's so charming. Yeah. I can't wait to see him. Are you going to? Are you going to what? What if you guys become friends? Yes. What's wrong with that? A lot, a lot. If anyone out of the four of us is going to be friends with Matthew Reese, I don't think it should be you.

1:01:56Yeah. What are you talking about? You don't appreciate it like we do. I just don't think that, I don't know. I don't think you can hang with him and Carrie. I keep bringing up Carrie because - What are you going to do with Matthew Reese? Are you going to take him to the Altadena 7-Eleven and buy him a Slim Jim? I'm sorry. And don't even get me started on you. What? I'm sorry. I happen to know he restores old sailboats. So you think that's not up my alley, that kind of thing? He and I will get along. We'll be fast friends. You work on small toy sailboats. He works on real sailboats that a man can get into.

1:02:27Closer than anything you do. Oh, that is not true. I am quite the seaman. Yeah. I have been at sea many a time. I have sailed off the coast of Boston, Rhode Island, Cape Cod. I've sailed off the rough seas of Block Island. My face is weathered by the salty spray And old Neptune's ire Anyway, none of you were ever meeting Matthew Rhys That's the end of this segment We'll see Never gonna happen Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend With Conan O 'Brien, Sonam of Sessian, and Matt Gourley Produced by me, Matt Gourley Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Nick Liao, and Jeff Ross at Team Coco And Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf Theme song by The White Stripes Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino Take it away, Jimmy Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair And our associate talent producer is Jennifer Samples Engineering by Eduardo Perez Additional production support by Mars Melnick Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Batista, and Britt Kahn You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts And you might find your review read on a future episode Got a question for Conan?

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