Kelly Clarkson

25:02We didn't have a stylist on the show until I think like the top five, maybe. Right. So you guys were just doing your own makeup and hair? They dropped us at a mall, the Beverly Center. Ooh, that's a rough mall. Gave us money and said, and it was like, I think it was like 200 bucks. I don't even know how. It was just like a couple hundred dollars or something like that. And said, okay, this is a prize to go get something for the show. And I am thinking, this show is going nowhere. I'm pocketing this money. I will wear whatever I want. I just wore what I had. So you didn't even spend the money they gave you?

25:39No, I didn't. I was like, this is like rent money. I was like, I'm not going to waste it on this dumb mall. and like, who cares about, I didn't know. No one knew the show would be what it was. I'm literally the first winner. I had no idea. Like no one knew. Even after I won, no one knew. No one could have called that, right? I do think the reason why so many successful people are from that particular show is because they're so invested. Simon Fuller, like with the record company, the management, the show, like if one succeeds, all the others succeed. So I think that's the brilliance behind that.

26:14and honestly I had a wonderful time I love Simon Fuller this never happens in the industry but like he actually let me out of my deal and he didn't have to and I was you know successful so there was no reason to do that but he actually let me out because he couldn't actually be there it was like other people running it and it just wasn't a good... That's unheard of in any business but specifically the music business for someone to say this is a superstar, a major talent she wants out, you can go I was MTV iced out performing and I was just in tears on the phone going, look, I love you. You're like the kindest person ever, but like I don't work with you on the regular.

26:50And I'm just unhappy with who I am working with. And he not only said he'd let me out. He also said he'd help me find management and help me out like after like and with no with no ask, like nothing, no strings. So it's I had a very positive experience in that sense. Right. I will point out he sounds like a terrible businessman. He's really loaded. so he's doing something right once once i was like my friends and i randomly like went like backpacking like um you know in france and he was like literally this is a real story he was like oh are you near and i was like oh my god you're here too and he was like yeah he was like i'll send my tender for you and i was like i'm sorry what i was like what is it and this is before the app tender this is a boat i guess a tiny boat with a bigger boat that comes to get you and i was like i don't a boat that contains another boat it's like it's a tiny boat i guess from one big yacht to like come get and i was like oh man we roll in different circles wait a minute you don't have to send your tender you're you're backpacking with your friends and it's like you're gonna stay in a youth hostel and then this guy's like i'll send my yacht over we were definitely staying at just like a normal hotel like it was a hospital at a normal hotel And I just was like, oh, my God, you're good.

28:04Like, that's not I feel like a pretty woman. Like, you know, you walk in the store and you don't belong. So I was like, oh, this is not this is not a role. So, no, I'm good. But I learned what a tender was. Yeah. And now it's something completely different. It's true. It's funny how words change. I've had no experience with either tender. Me neither. It came along before my time. So I never had to swipe or anything. You never. Yeah, I just never did that. I don't think I would have done very well in that world. Yeah, I'm not even going to venture into there. Oh, come on. Let's give it a shot. No.

28:37You know. I'm pretty old fashioned. Yeah. You know, I want to talk about this album, Chemistry, because I've been listening to it. I listened to it last night, and my daughter is such a massive fan of yours. And she's 19. So I said, they gave me this sneak listen to Kelly Crockett's new album. And so she got in the car with me, and we drove around, listened to the whole album. And she, both of us, blown away. but my daughter just going on and on about your range and the way you put a song across. And I think this is your 10th. Is this your 10th album? It's my 10th. Someone told me that. Yeah. That's amazing.

29:09And I, someone told me that. I'm going to be honest with you. I had no idea. I'm told I'm delightful. I am delightful. Not by anyone here. I hire a guy. But what's amazing to me is I don't, I know, I think I feel like I know great singing when I hear it. and I remembered watching your audition tape, which is out there. It's fascinating to see your audition for American Idol. Yeah, and it's fascinating to know which one you saw. Which one do you mean? Because they edit and they show you. I think they ended up releasing, but they had me actually sing another song. I came in singing at last. Yeah, that's the one I saw.

29:46Yeah, but then they actually ended up releasing at some point because they asked me, oh, that's how you sound a slow song. Can you sing like an uptempo? and like literally every person was singing itchy, kitschy, ya, ya, whatever. The pink, the Lady Marmalade. Yeah. Every soul in the building was rehearsing that song to sing. So I was like, anything but that song. So I ended up singing Madonna, Express Yourself for some odd reason. Because that's not like a. But it clearly went well. It went fine. But like I just, it's funny because how they edit the show, like nobody even saw that for years. Well, what's great is watching their reactions because it's, you know, you have the judges there and it's Paul Abdul and they're just there.

30:28You start, they're like, OK, go ahead. And you come in and you really do look like you've just come in from selling some Red Bull to people in a park. I literally probably. And then you start to sing at last and you just cut to them. And it's really fun to see because it's I don't know. It's it's it's like people seeing a UFO. They're just all looking at you. Their reactions are so priceless. They're seeing awesome talent come out of you, which is really cool. Well, so Randy and Paula were like that with me, but I had to win over the Brit. Like he, he didn't even remember me. He like, I like, I came back and he literally said, and like, I think I was seeing respect and it was on one of the lives or something.

31:05And, and he, I was like, oh, you can't hear that enough. Um, he was like, I don't even remember you. And I was like, thank you. That is so great. Well, it's funny. His job was kind of to be that way. And it's nice. I had also changed my hair color though. So I think he just honestly did not recognize me or remember me at all. Was not impressed by my voice at first. And I think I - What are you talking about? I think I won him over. You have like this crazy operatic voice. I'm telling you, but I literally, I got off stage and I was like, well, you can't hear that enough. It was like, I don't remember you.

31:35I was like, okay. Yeah. I'd rather suck and be memorable than not memorable. Yeah. Well, he wears sweaters with no t-shirt underneath. No, he's like such a fan now. He's so nice. Oh, now he's come around. I had to win him over. Yeah, sure. Now he's come around. No, I won him over on the show. I won him over on the show, but I think it took a minute. Yeah. This album that you've done, Chemistry, is about really personal stuff in your life. Yeah. Which is where a lot of great music comes from. Tragedy. Historically, but must be. I know that you wrote some of these songs maybe a year and a half ago.

32:08Two and a half to three. I literally had to sit on it because my label loved the work, but I was like, I can't sit and do this. I'm not ready. Like, you know, I'm saying the talk about it. Like, so I, and now I just needed to wait until, um, you know, we were through it and, and then I could do it. But so it's weird to listen to now. Cause it's, do you feel like it's all, cause you went through this traumatic, you know, separation, divorce. Is that is, and I, and obviously I'm not a songwriter and nothing about it, but is that at all therapeutic to write about it? It's only therapeutic. That's the 100 % the reason why I did it.

32:42Like I wrote so many songs and I think, um, And we all process things differently. And for me, even when I was a kid, I had a – funny enough, I had a problem communicating. And I'm really good at it now. But I had a problem with it. And my mom shoved a journal in front of me and was like, why don't you write? And so I started writing poetry. And I noticed that that's how I would process my feelings or what I was feeling. or I just didn't know sometimes because there's so many, it just feels chaotic sometimes I'm here. So then it turned into music. And so a lot of that was just me doing it selfishly.

33:17But then you realize like a lot of people, unfortunately, will relate to, I mean, statistically, a shit ton of us relate to a divorce rate. So, you know, and just loss in general, grief in general. So I picked the ones that I felt weren't so literal and okay because we have children. So I picked the ones that were okay that I felt like. And then I put those out. But now, but the ones that are super literal, those are for me. And they're probably just super specific. And so super duper specific. Right. On August 5th. A lot of anger.

33:54I think a couple of the angry songs made it, but they weren't the ones that were like, you know, no code red over. Divorce in general is hard. separation grief loss all of that is hard um i think the worst part though is when you feel alone like i don't even hang out with anybody that's really like my main group of friends like aren't married don't have children aren't in the public eye like none of the things that tick the boxes that i am so which is awesome that's why we make a fun group but but at the same time when you're going through something so horrendous and so publicly there's there's no way to like describe that.

34:29Like there's, I just saw your shirt. I'm sorry. That's amazing. I caught my eye. That's amazing. But I can get you one. Thank you. It's a Conan shirt and they're very sexy. I love it. It's amazing. I'm so ADHD, like squirrel. Sorry. But I think, I think when you're, when you're, when you're that, when you that isolated and I think everybody relate COVID, right? People are so isolated. Like, I think that's the worst to not feel like you can connect with another being and like heal in that sense. And I think that that's why we all do crave, like maybe it's not marriage or maybe it's not whatever society tells you, but we do crave companionship and because you need to connect and you need to, it's almost a process of healing, I think for me.

35:16Do you have an instrument that you use, a musical instrument when you are trying to work something out? Do you use a guitar, use a piano? I'm a horrible guitarist. And like literally I played one tour And then I found out like halfway through, they were like, not putting it in the mix. Like I was like, and I found out they were like, not putting it in the mix. And they were like, well, we just knew, you know, you're learning. So like, and I was like, oh my God. I killed that solo. Yeah, no one heard it. I was like, I felt it. And I was like, okay, I'm going to let the professionals do it. So I know chords like enough to like write if I need to on a guitar or piano.

35:53But honestly, most things, especially this record, most of it was acapella, just lyrics and melody flowing out of me. And then we worked a track around it. And sometimes I call it like I I literally sent out like a like a code red, like any any artist friends that I knew that were producers or writers. I was like, please send me anything you have that's like even if it's a random guitar riff idea or just anything that because I was needing to get all of this out. And I just needed different moods and different like perspectives musically. So I wrote like that too. But the lyrics and melody are me.

36:27I love that you worked with, and I did not see this coming, but one of my all-time idols is Steve Martin. I absolutely adore Steve Martin. I can't believe he said yes. And he had a huge impact on my comedy and my life. And then I find out that, I mean, I always knew he's an amazing, amazing banjo player. Yeah. and I hear about this collaboration that you did with Steve Martin, which. You would have never, I, what? Like that doesn't even make sense. But it sounds great and the song is. So the song is I Hate Love and in the song, so I wrote, sure. How do you say on these days? It was a really sunny day.

37:10No, and why I hate love is not that I hate love. It's that you hate what love can do, you know, And especially so in the second verse, you know, you watch The Notebook, right? And you're like, oh, that's so beautiful. James Garner crying. Like all the things you're like, I could, this is achievable. And then you see reality in like a movie, like it's complicated with like Meryl Streep, Steve Martin, Alec Baldwin. It's one of my favorite movies. And that's more real life. And so I just thought it was funny to play off of those. I'm very much inspired by art, like whether it's music or movies or art or whatever.

37:42And so I played off that. And then the lyric, it's like, I'll take Steve Martin over Gosling. Like I'm basically like throwing Ryan Gosling. I love Ryan Gosling. But I was making a joke. I dated him for a while. Was it good for you? No, it's really. Okay. Yeah. I know it's not the notebook, is it? Underwhelming lover. So, no. So anyway, I made this reference of Steve Martin in it and that I would choose Steve Martin over Gosling. And I literally looked at Jesse Shaggin, my producer. I was like, do you think, because I know he's a badass musician. I was like, do you think in some world he would agree to play on this?

38:21Because it's kind of a pop punk song. And banjo, I thought would be cool on it. And it is. And it is. And so anyway, he said, yes, I know. And I didn't get to go to the studio with him. I still never met him. Jesse got to. I was working. It's so funny. You brought up the notebook. And I just have to relate that Ryan Reynolds was on the show. Do you remember this? Ryan Reynolds was on the show once. It's burned into my memory forever. So Ryan Reynolds was on our show. and he had this idea. He said, let's recreate this scene from the notebook. So I'm wearing the blue dress in the rain. Yeah. They're yelling at each other?

38:55And they're yelling at each other in the rain. You came back for me? Yeah. And Ryan Reynolds is doing Ryan Gosling and it culminates with the two of us and it was shot in this beautiful filmic style to exactly match the movie. Oh my gosh. And I am, what's the actress? You're Rachel McAdams. I'm Rachel McAdams and my hair is just matted down and I'm wearing the same dress. How was your ugly cry? Oh, it was fantastic. It was really ugly. Nailed it. But it ends with, Ryan Reynolds and I had just agreed that we were gonna rush each other and start making out. So we do, we start making out and we're making out for what?

39:32It felt like four hours. Yeah. But it was maybe just like a minute. You can see it on the internet. Which is so long. But Ryan - You're giving it the old college try, huh? No, no, I just go for it. And Ryan Reynolds at one point has this mover. He's reaching over and he's doing, he's kind of twiddling my ear. Oh my God. And so we just both went. That's one of his moves. Yeah, exactly. So I learned a lot about him. And myself. Yeah, exactly. And so we done, cut, we got it. And I'm just like, all right, what's next? And I move on. And my wife had watched the whole thing happen. She saw it on TV that night.

40:09She watched it and she said, yeah, that ruined both of you for me. Like collectively at the same time. I'm no longer like, I'm no longer, I don't like you. I'm unattractive to both of you. Yeah, and I now find you both horrific. I think that's amazing. Well, it's a good experience. It's amazing how long it lasted. Oh, yeah. So long. You know, just go for it. When you know that's coming, do you use a mint? Do you put a mint in your mouth? I actually just to get him had a burrito I had a very like garlic rare garlic burrito all garlic yeah because what did I care yeah do you guys still talk at all do you still kiss let's just say we text a lot let's leave it alone that kind of relationship yeah it is funny how I love people that go for the joke that that's the beauty of comics that's why I loved actually being a cocktail waitress in a comedy club I love to be, to put your pride or everything aside, ego, and just be like, hell, why not?

41:12Like, I love that. There's nothing more attractive. Why are you saying we put our pride aside? Well, no, I mean, I mean. Oh, because Conan, some people have pride that they have to put aside. And I know a lot of. What's this pride thing? I know a lot of straight dudes would be like, no, no, I don't want people to think like, and it's like, okay, guy, nobody's thinking about you that much anyway. But like, it's like, I love that people, I think that it's the most unattractive thing, I'm sorry, about a person to be so comfortable. I imagine, I'm always trying to look for what's the connection between different artistic forms.

41:47And what I do know is, and I know that it applies to what you do in music is, and also on your talk show, when it's time to go, you just go. You look at all the different things that you've been through in your life and in your personal life recently, and people might say, well, how do you keep going? It's because you take it moment to moment to moment. I'm going to take this, and I'm going to write this song. Then I'm going to write that song. I'm going to move to this moment, then to that moment. Well, that's interesting you said that because that's literally – I think everybody had a hard time during COVID.

42:22They tried to keep our show going, and – well, we did. but like from my ranch in Montana, which had very poor internet and like could not be a more remote location in the mountains. And I'm traipsing through snow. My marriage is falling apart. No one knows. I'm learning all these songs. I'm doing this other stuff for music thing. Like, it's like just shit is hitting the fan. And all the while, you know, you're like, what's up America? And you're smiling and you're, I think a lot of us have to do that. Whatever vocation you choose, like whatever your job is, like I think a lot of us have to do that sometimes.

43:00But what I found helpful is I would be like, truth, like completely bawling, like right before we would be shooting and be like, how do I fix this? And then we'd start and we'd like, let's say cover like an HI story. And some amazing human would come on the screen and just say how they went from something maybe tragic and did something that usually maybe people would find cheesy or something, but it's so healing. And I think when you step outside yourself and not necessarily compartmentalize it, but just let it go for a moment because it seems so huge. And then you focus on someone else. It kind of changes the perspective on everything in your life.

43:38It's healing in a sense, but it's hard to keep smiling. There was one time when I was like, I never cancel. I'm not that person. And I was like, I can't actually fix this. I looked like, oh God, put her in a jacket. I was like, it was real bad. I was really sad. And so we had to cancel. And I know that's so rare for you. It is, yeah. I've actually seen footage of you at some award show and you're performing your ass off. And I know that I later heard the backstory, which is that you needed to have an appendectomy. Didn't they? And they like - Award shows are like the death for me. You don't understand.

44:14Like that happened. Yes. Like my appendix was about to burst. I literally went into surgery hours later. Something else happened the other time I was doing it. My first performance ever on the Grammys. This is a real story. I was called right as I was leaving for the Grammys being picked up by my publicist at the time, Roger Wynowski, and was told I had cancerous results. And I was like, and cancer like runs in our family, like ovarian, cervical, like just the gamut, breasts, everything. And I was like, what? And the whole day was ruined because I just couldn't stop crying because I was like, wait, I haven't done so much in my life.

44:49I was like, and it just was the worst day ever. True story. The next morning, I called back to schedule because I was like, I can't. They're like, we need you to come in now. I was like, well, I'm going to be performing on the Grammys. And it was like a huge moment for any kid that grows up watching. That's like the epic thing for you. And literally called the next morning for like what I needed to do next. and they were like, oh, we're so sorry. Those were actually someone else's results. No. Jesus Christ. And I was like, you? No. First of all, my first thought was like, who did you tell they were fine?

45:24Right. And now you're calling them and telling them they have cancer. Like, I'm like, wait, what? And then - They called Clark Kellison. And then I was like, I know, and then - We're so sorry, Clark. But I'm just telling you, award shows get ruined for me. They're like, sometimes I don't want to go because I'm like, what the hell is going to happen to me? Because something always happens, I feel like. And I won that night. Oh, my God. And then I won again. And then I just kept crying because I was like, God's giving me this before he takes it. Oh! Sorry. I'm sorry. I had to have my makeup. Thank you, God, for this one last.

45:59I was kidding. What? I get to live? Everyone was like, oh, my gosh, your performance, because it's an emotional song in general. They were like, it was so beautiful. And I was like, that's because I thought I was dying. And I was like so worried. And they had to redo my makeup three times. I'm like, you people ruined an entire moment for me. And I just, yeah, award shows in general, like shit always happens to me. I don't know. I'm always afraid to say yes. Because who knows what's going to happen. My favorite award show moment was I was working. Well, there's a bunch of crazy things that have happened.

46:34But I was working on an award show once and emceeing it. and had to do kind of like a song and dance number. And I can sort of like hold a tune if necessary in a comedic way. So it was all fine. But then it was important that I hit this note at the end. Yeah. And so they said, you know about this, but they said, what we're going to do is we're going to get you into the Capitol Records building. There's the orchestra is there. That's going to be. Did you do it while they were playing? And yeah, it was the greatest thing in the world. And what they did is they had me hit this, sing it there. So they had it on this track.

47:04Yeah. But then they had me hit this one note. So I was going to sing it live, but then at the end go, so welcome to the, you know, I got to hit this note up there and hold it, which I don't do. It'd been a piece of cake for you, but I don't do that. So they auto-tuned it, and then they did this thing where they extend it for a long time, so it looks like I'm really holding the note. Oh, yeah. And they said, so Conan, just get to that part, and then get to there, and then go and get down on one knee and mime it, and we'll slide it across, and it'll look like you hit it. Okay, so I do the whole bit.

47:33I do all the jokes. Then I go into the song. Then I hit the note and the crowd, you know, was really liked it. And they were like, yeah, yeah. And I walk off stage and Barry Manilow is standing there and he's looking at me and he says, hey, man, you hit that note and held it. And I said, auto tune pre-record. He went, oh, and walked away like I had farted. He was so impressed and then rejected it. He went from, wow, that was. And then his face felt like he'd had a stroke. and he just turned and walked away. I'm like, yeah. He was just like, oh, you sicken me. Yeah, it was a fun moment for me. Oh my God, artists do that.

48:14Hey, do me a favor. Will you not have 20 years go by before we talk again? I know, 20 years. And you know what? One of the reasons I got to come visit you is because you're moving your show to New York. You're going to be in my old studio where we did Late Night from 93 to 2009. So for 16 years, I was in that place. That place is near and dear to my heart. That's where I met you. That's where we met. I know. And you said, I'll see you in 20 years. I couldn't believe it would have been 20 years. I was like, geez. You said, I'll see you in 10 albums, sucker. But yeah, Letterman was in that studio before me.

48:51And he did his iconic show there. There's a lot of - They told me the history of it. I was excited. Yeah, Tom Snyder was there, interviewed John Lennon in that room. That is a very famous studio that has magical mojo. So I'm really happy that you're going in there. It makes me happy. Oh, I am too. I'm very happy too. Well, the album, Chemistry, will, I think when this drops, it doesn't drop. It drops June 23rd. No, I'm saying the podcast. I'm so confused about what to say. It kind of falls with a bit of a thud. Yeah. It tumbles out. You could say drops. It's cool. Yeah. By the time this, well, don't tell me it's cool.

49:27Because then it's not. Because then it's not. Thank you. Oh my God, wait. Can I say something real quick? Do you? I just found this out in a podcast yesterday. Do y 'all know? I'm, look, I'm going to sound like an idiot. Do you know, like, do you know before anyone answers what Netflix and chill is? Like, do you know what that is? Yeah, I do. Yeah. What do you think it is? Well, I, I think it's let's, uh, let's get it on as the kids used to say. You didn't know that? Did y 'all know that? Yeah. It's like a, it's like a, it's like a way of saying let's do it. Yeah. My friend was like, yeah, that's like getting a text like you up.

50:01And I was like, wait, what? I have been saying? I'm more of a Netflix and chill girl. Like, I have been saying. No, no, no, Kelly, that means no. I have been saying this. It doesn't mean what you think. I am aware as of like 12 hours ago. But I didn't know. No. I'm like, oh, my God, I have been saying like, oh, I'm like a Netflix and chill person. Like, I just thought it meant. Yeah, it's kind of like a, it's almost like a booty call thing to say. Yeah. Like, let's just watch Netflix and chill is code for, yeah, it'll be on in the background. My other one. I had no idea. And I have been out here for like a minute going, I don't know, I'm like low key.

50:38I'm like Netflix and chill kind of girl. And they're all like, all right, girl. I'm kind of a Hulu and screw guy. I've got to be honest with you. I'd be down for either. But like, I'm up for the occasion. But like, I just didn't know. I'm just a peacock and just a peacock. Yeah. it's kind of sets itself up at least it's all bad well kelly i hope i see you again uh soon you are uh well you're everything you were when i met you 20 years ago you're you're just still incredibly talented obviously that doesn't go away but you're a very warm real person and you're funny and you're still yourself you're still the person that ran down the street after those people that ran out on the tab.

51:23And so, and I know you've been, I know you've been through a lot, but I know better times are coming. So, and I'm happy for you. Man, they're already here. Yeah. Very good. Kelly Clarkson, everybody. Thank you.

51:38Oh my God. I, I literally found that up. It was with Glenn. What a lovely person. Isn't she? She's lovely. Wait a minute, what the hell is all that about? There are really good audiences out there. I'm stuck with you people. Wow. They don't do that when I walk down the hall. No, they hide. You're not Kelly Clarkson. No, I'm Clark Kellyson. I have some bad news for you. Hello, Clark Kellyson here. You told me my results were fine. What? Fuck. Listen, it's time to get down to some business. Oh, we're going to get down to some business, are we? Yes, right. What kind of business? We've got to sell some products.

52:25Hey, you know what? Not we got to, we get to. You're right, boss. We get to. You know what I like, Sona, don't you? I want to say you like cell phones. No. Oh. I like good, that's too vague. I'm sorry. I'm going to be more specific. Okay. Because you've been drinking. I like good, reliable coverage. There you go. And I like, thanks a lot. You're a big help here. it is possible with t-mobile now blay you are a loyal t-mobile fellow tell us about your experiences for many years yeah i actually use t-mobile i live stream my hikes i like to live this is actually true and uh no no no one doubted that it was true they just believe it or not there was a sadness about it everyone believed it but it's great i like to go connect with nature and live stream it.

53:15It's fun. I have this great two-hour loop I do, and I bring people along. Did you say great? Yeah. And we play games like What's This Tree? And we rate dogs and stuff that I see on my hike. And also, there's a lot of big houses around where I live. I live in an apartment, but we try to guess how much each one of those houses cost. What a good thing live stream. It's really fun and fantastic. Very good. With T-Mobile, I get great service. You get that 5G coverage, right? 5G is the good one. Yeah. What other Gs are you familiar with? There's the four, the three, and the two, right? Blay, the use of your time worries me.

53:57But I think the message we should take away from it is that T-Mobile covers more highway miles with 5G than anyone else. Did you know that? No, I didn't. Yeah, so if you need great coverage, especially when you're on the go, and talk about on the go, This is what Thoreau intended when he said, go take a walk in the woods, was to live stream it. It makes me feel like I'm in The Legend of Zelda. Yeah, exactly. Okay, well. Yeah, he got that. It's going from sad to sadder. Anyway, I'm 95 years old. You want to Netflix and chill? No, if you need great coverage, especially when you're on the go, check out T-Mobile.

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55:06Let's bring out someone very special to us, shall we? Who would that be? It's your assistant, David Hopping Oh, my other assistant Because Sona is usually busy Oh And so I have David Hopping, David Hopping Yay

55:23David, quick question Did you get to meet Kelly Clarkson? I did You did? I did. Okay, we were driving today together and we're listening to Kelly's new album, Chemistry. At one point, we finished like the third or fourth song and I said, oh, that song is really good. And you looked at me and said, it's impossible for Kelly to have a bad song. It's true, it's true. I know, but you are such a fanatic. It must have been nice to meet her. It is. I brought a vinyl. She signed it for me. Oh. I didn't ask you if I could do that because I didn't want to risk you saying no. so I just brought it. Well, now I look like a controlling asshole to everybody.

56:01I thought you well. So the answer is I would like it and I will shred it in front of you. Oh. No, I would have said yes. I know you have. So you really were afraid to ask me if you could bring a final? No, I actually wasn't. You just forgot. Yeah, I just forgot. Okay. It's easier to say I'm afraid than I forgot. Okay. I'm glad. I'm glad you met her. Isn't she nice? She is really nice. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, please. You made it happen. He told me yesterday he was like, you're going to get one-on-one time and then I wasn't sure if it was a bit or if it was true and it was true. Why do you and Sona always think that my acts of kindness are a cruel joke?

56:35They are. Would we ever think that? Why? You said something nice earlier and I started getting super defensive. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever I try to be nice I promised you one-on-one time with Kelly Clarkson and I half meant it. But no, I knew that I would be able to swing it. Oh, thank you. And she's so nice. She's someone of those people that's going to say, no, I'm out of here. I have performed what I needed to do. Now I'm gone. She's just a lovely person. Where is she now? She's gone. I think she's working the hallway because they gave her such a great reception when she walked out. So how can we help you, David?

57:07I think you're going to take some questions from. I have no idea what's happening. I don't know why. If anyone has a question for Conan. I honestly thought you were bringing me my lunch. If anyone has a question, raise your hand. So when's your new HBO Max show start? Oh, thank you for asking. uh we i i shot this show as you know we do this podcast and then i we talked to famous folk like kelly clarkson but then uh usually in the middle of the week i talk to anyone in the world who just wants to talk to me and so the idea was many of these conversations as you guys know because you're there end with them saying well conan if you're ever in nigeria hop on stop on by and they say it kind of like a joke so what we decided to do is a show that hbo max said they wanted to do where I talk to them, you see a minute or two clip of that, and then I show up at their door and I get involved in their life, the Conan remote style where I'm literally going through their kitchen and tearing open their closets and then trying to help them achieve what it is they wanted to achieve or work out a problem they have with their mom, which is an episode that we shot in Bangkok.

58:13And so we shot some of them and then the writer's strike came. And so we shut everything down and so until the Writers Guild is satisfied and they get a good, because I started out as a TV writer and so I'm backing them a thousand percent until they get what they want. The show will sort of stay in limbo and then whenever that gets resolved, we can, I hope, finish it up. All of us right now in this business are just waiting to see what's going to happen. But there was a trailer that's out there that people can check out if they want. It's called Conan O 'Brien Must Go. yeah and never a true statement yeah i know i know trust me yeah uh people do like a title that shits on me um but uh yeah so that should be coming along at some point this time is what you're hearing is david walking hi um have you spoken to jordan and how is he well it's so funny because wherever i go people want to know how jordan's doing or no actually what they want to know is why isn't jordan with you right now and i always say because i want to enjoy my life yeah um jordan is and and this is true what's amazing about jordan schlansky is people do these deep dives on the jordan schlansky remotes and the adventures that we've had together and they see that i get irritated with him and a lot of people think well it's got to be an act and you'll back me up on this sona yeah it's not an act it's not an act he is a very irritating fellow i wish it was an act yeah it's not yeah and um he was uh for years at our show um driving people up the wall with his long pompous explanations of how to make the best latte and then we just realized that when i talked to this guy it's kind of magical and then we've had all these adventures together over the years and everyone wants more they want more jordan slansky but i'm constantly bumping into people who said my family and i just did like four hours of you and Jordan.

1:00:11And I think, why? Why would you watch me and this very irritating man drive each other insane? But it is pure. And I do try to explain that to people. I think that's why it works. I don't think you could make up a person like Jordan Schlansky. No. You recently launched a channel on Samsung TV and he went to New York and just handed ice cream out to people. and just drove around New York just handing out ice cream. Yeah. And I think it was very popular. Yes, it was. People really liked it. I don't understand. He's been asked because he has fans like the band Rush really liked Jordan, and Jordan likes Rush.

1:00:52So they asked Jordan to come out and open their show by just appearing and waving. Oh, my God. I'm scared how many common interests Jordan and I have. Oh, you're a big Rush fan? I do love Rush. Okay. Wow, that was... What? It sounded judgy. Not at all. Oh, you like Rush. Okay. Not at all. Oh, okay. Geddy Lee. He's great. You can't just say someone's name in the band to prove you like the band. Anywho. No, no. They're great. They're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Anywho, Jordan. That's the important thing. And he's not Rush. And he's out there and there'll be more Jordan. And he will reemerge right now.

1:01:34Things have just gotten a little quiet with this writer's strike, and they'll remain that way until it gets resolved. Any other questions? Yes. Hi, Conan. Hello. Matt. Hi. Will there be a Chill Chums season two? Well, first of all, I want to thank Dave Grohl for being here. Oh, my God. I always think of the same thing. I get it all the time. It is absolutely amazing. Wow. For a second, I thought it is so cool. I know we have a cool podcast, but the fact that Dave Grohl would sit in the back. my friends make fun of me all the time and they're like, guys, Dave Gross here at the bar, free drinks.

1:02:07I'm like, I cannot cover this at all. You kind of sound like him too. No, and you know what? I've met him many times and the resemblance is actually striking. You could get away with all kinds of stuff. I was at a wine tasting once and the sommelier was like, you know, as a side gig, I take photos for a bottle rock and I'm his photographer. I'm like, I met him before. I'm like, oh, that's sick. Like, what's he like? He's like, he's so nice, but he's a little bit taller than you. I'm like, oh, great. Fantastic. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just think if I were you, I'd be out signing checks in his name, renting limos and not paying for them.

1:02:44I got a free Denny's Grand Slam once. Yeah. I'm running on that. I remembered once that years and years ago, there was someone who was pretending to be me and driving around in a limo and charging things. And I'm like, of all the people you can choose to pretend to be, who says I'm Conan O 'Brien apparently he didn't even look that much like me but he was riding around saying yeah Conan's the name O 'Brien see put it on my account and I don't know why that would work but apparently it did you should all try it well sir who looks strikingly like Dave Grohl I think even handsomer and that's a compliment to you not to Grohl tell me what is your question he asked it he asked about children Will there be a chill chums?

1:03:29I couldn't listen to the question because I was saying, shit, it's Dave Grohl. What the fuck is he doing here? And so the question just went out of my head. Is there a plan for a new chill chums this summer? There is. There is going to be a chill chums this summer. It's in the books, as a matter of fact. Yeah, the date has been set and we will record a chill chums and it's going to be a fun one. It's going to be a really fun time. Yeah. I have a question because you, sir, Mr. Kroll, brought this up, which is, will there be alcohol again this time? Oh, yeah. I've already started working up a cocktail.

1:04:09Oh, cool. Because the one last time was lethal and Sona very quickly was blotto. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is true, right? My tolerance is really low and I had one of it and I was feeling no pain. It was great. I'm totally down for another, or we could take edibles. No. I'd be down for that. Well, of course, we'll have to check with the sponsor. Oh, okay. Right. Sorry. Sounds like, no, my AA sponsor.

1:04:42That's the sponsor I meant. Yeah. No, we're going to do it. That was fun. I remember I was cautious. I sipped. I sipped slowly because I'm a broadcast professional. Oh, we didn't sip. No, we were chugging. You guys were chugging, and those were amazing drinks you made. Thank you. They were fantastic. Yeah, I got to live up to it. I haven't quite arrived there yet. I don't know. I'm concocting. I'm working on it. Get off my back. I'm threatened by any man that says, I'm concocting. Get off my back. You're already working on it. Well, I'm always working on alcohol. Oh, okay. Very good. Yeah. That's a good man over there.

1:05:20Yes, anyone else who looks like a very famous rock and roll star, I want to say anything. Hi, I'm Tim. What's your name? Tim. Hey, Tim. Elise, my wife right here. Elise, how are you? Really loves you, Conan. Oh, thank you. Sona, Matt. Love you guys. Oh, I love you too. Well, we don't know them, so how can we love them? But I know, he's right. We love you. Thank you. I was wondering, will you guys be doing any Comic-Con stuff in the future? Well, here's the deal. We, for many years, did Comic-Con every year through the Late Night Show. and that was really fun because no late night show had done Comic-Con before.

1:05:57There's an amazing theater in downtown San Diego called the Spreckles which is an old vaudeville theater that the Marx Brothers performed in and I mean just this classic great 1920s venue and we would do shows that were all Comic-Con themed and they were so much fun. You were there for all those. There's probably some of my favorite shows you've ever done. There are some of my favorite cold opens. We would shoot these incredible pieces that parodied Mad Max and we would use like film cameras and we would we would really go to town and and we did my origin stories and and the audience was packed with people who had been at Comic-Con all day so the audience was just filled with Wonder Woman's and Hulk's and Batman's and I mean it was it was absolutely so much fun to do it was and then the question becomes now there's not a late night show, but there's a podcast.

1:06:51But is there a way that we could go back? And I'd be very intrigued because I loved going there. I love the energy of it. It's one of the greatest fan bases of all time. And I think it kind of neatly meshes with our style of comedy. I think there's like a nice symbiotic relationship where we're fans of a lot of these films too. And it worked really nicely. So I'd love to say that yes, in the future, there's no plan right now, but in the future, I'd love to get back to Comic-Con. Yeah. And, um. You know, I met my husband after one of those shows. After one of the week of shows. That's right. Tell me what happened.

1:07:25We were walking around. We had just finished a week of shows and we were walking and me and a friend of mine were walking around the actual Comic-Con floor. And then my friend knew the friend that Tack was walking with. And then we met, hit it off. And then. Right away. Did you know? Yeah, I did. I did. Yeah. But like two years later, we were married. You guys both met your spouses on Conan show. through the shows. Through the shows. Through the shows. Yeah. I met my wife shooting a segment for Late Night with Conan O 'Brien and you through the Conan show at TBS. Yes. So it is the greatest dating site of all time.

1:07:58Yeah. If anyone's looking for their special person, just come hang out with me and I guarantee you'll meet them within seven years. Yeah. That's really the best I can do. Seven years. My lawyers have said you really can't over promise. So I think that's it for today, isn't it? Is that it? Yeah, I think that's it. I do want to say, well, first of all, thanks to Kelly Clarkson for being here because I love her. I love her too. Incredibly talented. Thanks to T-Mobile for helping make this all possible. They're very, this doesn't happen unless we get our sponsors. So that's very cool. And I also want to thank you guys.

1:08:40You were a great audience. You were really nice. You were right up there with the audience that's in the hall. that works for me. Seriously, thank you all very much. And come on, see us next time. Thanks a lot. Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend with Conan O 'Brien, Sonam Ovsessian, and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Nick D 'Leal, and Jeff Ross at Team Coco, and Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf. Theme song by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. me. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer Samples.

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