Olivia Munn

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24:38I can relate, obviously, to John and I have similar, you know, kind of lineage. and we're both comedy obsessives. Is he always trying to turn something into a comedic riff? Is that something he does at home or not so much? No, I can't see him doing it, but it must be happening because I'll be watching it. Like I haven't seen his standup until recently. We were in London and I watched it. I was like, you've been like clocking all of this. Core memories, you're making core memories. Everything is a core memory, everything. His latest special is called Core Memories. No, it's yeah, because but I have noticed something with him that you might relate to as like a comedian because I know I see it now with him.

25:22Is that like Malcolm said something the other day, too, I think. And and when something's really funny, there's not a big reaction. It's just like, oh, yeah. And his brain is already it's almost like he's like writing it down a notebook in his head. Yes. You don't immediately laugh. Exactly. You just go, oh, that's very funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. Yes. That can be used later. uh-huh yeah i'm joy yeah yeah but i think sometimes there's not sometimes there's really not just like ah yes that's very good that's very good i think it clicks it just literally it flips a switch instead of like where the rest of us are just like that's funny i think it immediately flips this other switch that's like that is very funny let me log this down let me not forget the nuances of whatever this whole little moment was so that happens a lot more than than i recognized like you know the first year we were together yeah it's not as obvious as John saying, you know, Malcolm falls down and he's like, wait a minute, I can use this.

26:14I keep crying so I get down what it's like. We were talking just before we got started and I thought, I want to ask you about this because your early life, there's a lot happening. Your mom comes here when she has you. Where are you living? Is it Oklahoma? Oklahoma, I was born in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma, but then it doesn't work out. Her marriage doesn't work out. My father cheats on my mother when I was six months old. Oh, boy. And then she, yeah, she, my sister was two and a half. I was six months. And my mom was, had his dry cleaning and was going through his suit jacket and found two movie ticket stubs.

26:53And went up and asked him, like, did you go to the movies with somebody? And he said, yes. And she goes, was it a girl or a guy? He goes, it was a girl. And he goes, is it a date? And he's like, yes. And then so she leaves. And then. And she goes to Japan? No. No, so she leaves. So my, okay, my mom and my mom, my grandmother and her nine children escaped Vietnam in the fall of Saigon and in 75. And they came out to Oklahoma because there was a Christian University president that was like, I'll sponsor all 10 of you to come to Oklahoma. And they went there. And then my mom went to university and everybody still lived there in Oklahoma.

27:29And then when she left my father, she went back home to my grandmother's house with my uncles and everybody there to take care of her. and us. And my mom would tell stories about my dad coming to get us for visitation and my uncles would be so mad and they'd pick up huge rocks and just throw them at him and like throw them at his car. And like it was just, they were just, the Saigon came out in them. Yeah. What a ancient way of showing displeasure. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to take a note for this podcast. Yeah, I'm passive-aggressive with you, Matt, but I don't pick up large boulders and throw them at you.

28:03But now that we know that's an option. It is an option. But she, so then she goes. So then, and then eventually she, she remarries my first stepfather. My mom's been married three times. My second stepfather, it's important to note that he is amazing. His name is Sam, but my first stepfather was not a good guy at all. It's really for 14 years of my life from like two to 16. And so she married him and he's in the military. And then that brought us to. And he was a bit of a, like a rageaholic yelling person. Would you call him that? He was very abusive, abusive in many ways. And it's interesting, like, with abuse, right?

28:38Like, there was definitely screaming and yelling, but there wasn't like a rage. Like when you see in movies, just somebody comes in, wow, what's going on in here? It was just like that, you know, your blood runs cold. You just feel it. You know, you could just feel it. It's like when you're kids, you're like dogs, right? Where you can feel things before anything is said. You could, like, it's raining outside. And I would learn, like, later in life, like, okay, rain that's actually bad because he might be late for work or somebody might do that. And then he's going to come home and be really in a bad mood.

29:04So you just kind of like clocking all these things. He wore, always at home, he would wear like flip-flops. And so like the sound of like flip-flops on linoleum, because you know, in a military housing, you have like the same kind of concrete floors that linoleum on top of it. And just like those kinds of things that you just kind of perk up and go like, okay, someone's coming or danger's coming. And just before we came in here, you were talking about how you seem like someone who obviously went through a great deal. And then at some point had the strength and tenacity to say, I'm getting out of here because you talked about getting in your car and driving.

29:37This is, you know, when you're much older, but you decided I'm going to go to Los Angeles. You got in a car and you just started driving and you said, you know, your, your car broke down at one point and you were looking for a replacement part on the side of the road. Yeah. So there's this real fire in you. Like I'm going to get out. I always wanted to be an actor when I was like, uh, maybe 17. So my best friend gave me this book called an actor's guide your first year in Hollywood. And I was like, page one, let's go. We're going to make it. And so I told my mom that I wanted to be an actor. And my mom being an immigrant was like, oh, that's not.

30:12My mom and her siblings all came to America with nothing. And they all have master's degrees and PhDs and become top engineers. And one has worked for NASA and they're doctors. And so my mom was like, we don't have a dentist or a lawyer in the family yet. And I was like, OK, yeah. And also, you can understand where they're coming from. Yeah. That if you, if they're coming from that reality, and then you just one generation removed is saying, I'm going to try improv. Mm-hmm. And I'm going to throw, and I'm going to play, you know, some theater games. I can understand why they'd be freaked out. Yeah, especially because she's like, wait, you want to do what?

30:55Like, she did tell me a long time ago. She goes, you want to be active? Only one man can do it. Tom Cruise. you're not Tom Cruise. I was like, what? I go, mom, there's a lot of people. She is true. There is only one man that can do it. You're not Tom Cruise. I was like, I'm not. However, he and I do have the same birthday. And so it was, I would ask her a lot. And she was like, if you go to college and use your degree for one year, like, then I'll say, okay, you can go. And now I know at this point, I'm an adult, but it's an Asian family. So it really mattered that my mom was, you know, there to support me.

31:30And also, I didn't have the money to go do that. And I needed a lot of support and permission from my mom. And so I graduated from University of Oklahoma with a journalism degree. And then I worked at the NBC affiliate for one year in Tulsa, Oklahoma. You were sidelined? No, I was doing the assignment desk. You've been into a newsroom before? So we go into a newsroom, there's this assignment desk, and it's where you answer the calls from people going like, I love what Jane was wearing today. What color was that suit? And it's also people going like, I've got a complaint about XYZ and what's happening over here on this street.

32:08there's also all of these police scanners paramedic scanners fire department scanners and it's constantly all the time and your job is to hear it all and then to tell people and to be like conan go to 89th street there's like you know there's a fire at mccready's barn get over there exactly and they're right there in front of me and i hear nothing and i could hear producers screaming out what like you know they're like a school bus turned over on 29th you're like i'm like really they're like oh my gosh there's a house fire on on robertson i'm like there is And I'm like, I'm the worst person at this job ever.

32:39It was. Your job is not to go. You don't say. Wow. That must be some fire. I'd be literally. We should put it on the news. I'd be watching people get up and run. And I'm like, what? They're like, and they'd be like, they'd be into the parking lot screaming what's happening. And I just couldn't hear it. And so I took that job for a year. And then, then they asked me, don't ask me why. They're like, do you want to stay on longer? And I was like, well, I told my mom I would only do this for a year before I would go. And I was just determined to just do a year. And then I started thinking like, oh, man, maybe I will.

33:15I don't know. I talked to my mom about it. And she goes, you know what? Why don't you just wait another year? Just like one more year. And then you should go out to California and give it a try. But just one more year. So I was like, okay. And then one day, speaking of core memories, like not knowing when you're creating them, my sister was getting dressed and she was in the bathroom putting on her makeup. and she said, oh, you know, mom said the funniest thing to me the other day. She said, you know, Olivia keeps wanting to go to California to be an actor. And I just told her like next year. And if she says anything to you about it, just tell her next year.

33:41And we'll just keep saying next year, next year until one day she'll forget about it. And my sister said it of just like, mom is so silly. Isn't that so silly? And I'm pretty sure my sister doesn't even know this story because it probably didn't even clock to her. But in that moment, I was like, oh my God, like, well, why is this working? Like why, why, why? Because it clearly worked on me. I thought, well I'm letting it work why am I letting it work on me well because what if I don't make it and if I don't make it then for the rest of my life I could always say well I was going to be an actor but my mom wouldn't let me I was going to yeah yeah in a way uh you have an out I have an out forever so I I had um this this old like beat up Land Rover Discovery that like broke down like every 20 miles or so and it was not a good thing for the environment to do but we took out the catalytic converter because in Oklahoma you could and the catalytic converter allows more to have just more like horsepower and it like and it's really bad for the environment because it doesn't let's all the exhaust kind of out but in Oklahoma you could do it so thanks Oklahoma so the the mechanic was like you know you take this out you're gonna get like you're gonna be able to go a lot faster and you're gonna get more shoots gasoline out the back propelling you forward and um and so and then i also had a really bad a crack in my radiator and i knew about that but i couldn't afford to like you're driving chernobyl yeah exactly um and so i mean you're low on your you're kind of low on uranium so i um so then i had to drive like um got in my in the car and i was to go from oklahoma to texas and then all the way through, you know, New Mexico, Arizona, and then to California.

35:25But like it stopped like every 200 miles. And because you have to stop, open the gaskets, put in the radiator fluid, you know, to the Freon to, you know, keep it going. And then at one point, it just was like steam was coming out. I was in the middle of New Mexico and the steam was just like spewing out. And it's like the check engine light's coming on. So I pull over and I'm like, oh my gosh. And like the hose for the radiator, like I'd blown. and it was like a crack in it. I'm like, I just am on the side of the road on the highway, like look, you know, like walking for a while, going through the brush and then I find a hose.

35:58I'm looking for something that I could use and I find a hose. And because I've already had to do these things. You found a radiator hose? No, no, no, not a radiator hose. Oh, okay. Still, a hose. A hose. You found what you're looking for? That's amazing. Yeah, it was, I don't know what kind of hose. It wasn't a water hose, it was something. But I did it because in college, my best friend, Kara, she's very, she taught me a lot of this stuff. And so this had happened once before when we were in Oklahoma during college. And I was like, what are we doing? She's like, we're going to go find a hose.

36:27It's like, what do you mean? She's like, we're going to find something. And like, so we like on the side of the road, you just keep like looking and looking and you'll find something. And so, you know, it wasn't easy. It wasn't like, I was like an hour or so. Have you considered treasure hunting? I'm just saying you may have a real talent here. Well, you just search and search and you find something. And I carried the screwdriver and I carried like the heat resistant duct tape. I mean, I had the whole thing because this was a situation that I had experienced for like over a year. I've been going through this.

36:59So you'd think actually that I would have kept like extra hoses. That's the key. No, not if your experience is just go outside and look around. It's like shopping at Meineke. But we found it and it got me through. It got me to the very, like all the way to Altadena where I was meeting cousins. And so how long before you got work? Well, it depends on how you describe work. So in An Actor's Guide, Your First Year in Hollywood. They tell you. They tell you. After the chapter on finding a hose.

37:35This book is really good. You know how like they do like a new edition? Maybe they should do a new edition interviewing me. The new edition, yeah. So it says to become an actor, you need to join the union. And how do you join the union? You get your SAG card. How do you get your SAG card? Well, you book something that gives you your SAG card, or you go and be an extra. And you can be an extra, and you get pink slips. I think it was three pink slips equals one SAG card. That's what I did. You did? Did you get it? Yeah, for being an extra. Wait, how many pink slips did you get? Three. And did you get speaking parts?

38:12No, I was just... You got featured? No, I was a high school student, even though I looked 38. I saw what's the credits. It said creepy high school students. Prematurely aged. Did everyone get one or did they just give it to you? It was a show called The Smart Guy on like, was it Nickelodeon or something? I can't remember. And one of the actors was someone we knew from an improv group. And so he got three of us as featured extras to get our SAG cards. What was the featured part? Creepy guy in a high school. We weren't speaking. No, I know. some kind of it seems like a game that's the it is certainly background work it totally yeah yeah and but i i thought you just go and then you're like every background person gets like a i didn't know there was like a special thing like you have to be like you have to have a featured whatever that means okay but so in the book it says like go to central casting and you bring your passport and another identification and you go there you line up so i go to central casting out in burbank and like there was a line that goes you know down the block down the block around the block and I'm there like passport in hand the biggest smile on my face I'm like we're doing it yeah we're gonna do it we're here look at us I'm the new Tom Cruise just like the book says yeah you guys have the book too yeah um and um and I was like literally the only person smiling the entire time I was like this is it and I get to the front and the first one I did was Gilmore Girls I couldn't believe it I got cast on Gilmore Girls and I get to Warner Brothers I see all these people there and no one else is smiling it's 4 a.m and I'm just like guys we're doing it we made it and then this one guy brought me over and he's like come here he's like is this your first time doing this I'm like yes it is he's like okay he's like what um what color did you bring I was like what do you mean what color and he was like what color did you bring I said I don't I just have like winter coats and stuff he goes hold on he hands me his red his red scarf and he's like you need this so that they can see you in the background he's like he and he puts on a red hat and he goes and you want to make like big gestures he's like you know like you can say hi to a friend that's way over there and like so he had all these like tips and tricks and taught me about like bringing tupperware so that i can like take food home and like how we want to get into meal penalties and it was like this whole thing i learned yoda of background acting on your first day some of the advice i'm not sure i i have a hard time watching gilmore girls because there's a guy in the background who's always flailing like he's on fire and he's dressed like where's waldo i can't understand rory um but i only did it i only did uh one other um background uh job the very first thing i booked was this uh was it's always sunny in philadelphia oh there you go so it's my jam yeah but wait a second so i couldn't believe it i was this is so exciting then Monday morning rolls around and I'm waiting and it's supposed to be film on Monday and I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm waiting and then I I try to get a hold of somebody at the agency like no one's answering try to get somebody at the management company no one's answering because it's super early in the morning I'm like I feel like I'm supposed to be there already and then finally I get a call from production and the woman's like oh my god we transposed the last two numbers of your cell phone my number at the time was 0608 so they were calling 0806 and they're like i'm so sorry we had to go audition all of the extras for this role and i was like what do you mean they're like we told your managers but my manager at the time was too busy starring and filming his own movie oh god that weekend oh come on he didn't give me any of the any of the yeah bro oh my god i would give him just a number of more chances if i'm not too i'll give him 15 more chances.

41:47Yeah. I was like, I was like, I, you guys, I was like, I'll be right there. I'll be right there. Like, I'm sorry. We've had to move. Like, but don't worry. We'll remember you for the next time. I thought, of course you're not going to. I look back at my start and there were things I desperately wanted to happen that didn't happen. And then later on, I realized that if those things had happened, the real great shots wouldn't have come along for me. It would have set me off on a different road. So, because you go on this streak of attack of the show, you get. Daily Show. Yeah, Daily Show. You got offered a part on 30 Rock, which you couldn't end up doing.

42:24And then you do The Newsroom. Yeah, that was like my first big, like, behemoth to take on, right? Like, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart was a, those both are like kind of simultaneous, like, and they're very different in their own ways. Right. I knew that I was like, just the outlier in that whole cast for The Newsroom. And that, you know and actually after my first day of filming the very first scene that you see me in in season in episode two season one he came to me afterwards he's like you know we were he's like just you know we were all watching being like what's this girl from the daily show gonna do and i was like i kind of felt that pressure a little bit but also at the same time felt like like i didn't know a lot about like the etiquette of like filming on on sets and like how like i would ask a lot of questions i would go to sorkin and be like can you explain all these little things to me because I was like I mean I didn't write the character you did so I would and so there was like a look and I would ask other actors me like how would you say this line and they'd be like what like you can't and I was like why would I just want to use my brain if I can have everyone's you know help and involved in this and I was looking at I knew I was going I had like such an amazing high caliber group of actors around me and I was like oh man I don't I just have to like kind of narrow in and think about what I'm doing and I I at that time in entertainment i feel like a lot of times i've seen characters like that play really just overly demanding or apologetic and i just wanted to play it straight i just was like there's like just any nothing has come close to that i i've stopped filming that show in 2014 14 17 14 something like that a long time ago and i nothing has come close to that because of the challenges that Sorkin put for me in there to like really make things really small, but still give it as much impact.

44:08It'd be very hard to act in his stuff because he puts so much dialogue in there. It's so dense. It's so dense. And when I watch his stuff, I'm always very, he's obviously a great writer and he's really a savant at this. He does great work, but I'm always thinking, yeah, I couldn't work for that guy. Memorize all that stuff? I couldn't. And you know me, I'd just be making up gibberish. And he also loves walking and talking. So that business where, you know, every literally can't walk and talk. I can't walk. I cannot walk. And I cannot. Unless you're being carried on a toilet. If I'm carried on a toilet.

44:41That's why. All my scenes. But you've, I mean, it's interesting because you, you, you've had kids. I know that you then battled breast cancer and you made this decision to just take time off. but I heard you say somewhere, I'm not going to do some announcement that you won't be seeing me for a while. Yeah. Which I thought was cool because when people announce, I'll be stepping down from my career momentarily, I always think no one asked. Yeah. You know? I'm like, I always think it's so funny when people do that. I'm like, you don't play for the Lakers. Like no one's being like, where are they?

45:15Tuesday night, where are they? Yeah. I'm like, you're an actor. Like everyone wants to make this big announcement. And it's like, I think if there's somewhere where people are expecting you to be, you know, then okay, you should let us know you're not going to be there. But it was like, it was a, it was a personal decision. And yeah, I just felt like I just had gone through, I don't know if your wife dealt with postpartum, but I had the worst postpartum anxiety. Did you have that at all? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I was ready for postpartum depression. I'd never heard of postpartum anxiety. And so it was like about a month after Malcolm was born.

45:48And all of a sudden, I just like, I wake up at 4am. My eyes just pop open. I just go. And I just feel it in my chest every day. It's like that every day for almost a year. and I just I would just have to hold his arm going from room to room sometimes and that would just be like cool the rats like sometimes it'd be cool but it would always be there and I didn't understand what it was I didn't really say anything to anybody about it I just told him like I don't really feel good I'm just kind of feeling anxious and it wasn't until it wasn't for like nine months or something until finally I like opened up to I think my therapist about it and I wasn't able to make a lot of breast milk.

46:26I really tried and my son was struggling because I was not giving him any nourishment. And it was so frustrating. And so I was like, I'm just stopping. I'm going to put him on formula. He's going to be okay. But by stopping cold turkey like that, I didn't know, even if I made a little bit, what happens is your hormones drop and everything. I was not prepared for that. So then it just dropped me into the depths of postpartum hell. And I was spiraling And then I ended up getting, people would ask me like, what were your thoughts? Well, the thing is I didn't have thoughts. Thank God I didn't have any thoughts of self-harm or hurting anyone else.

47:04And my heart goes out to every woman who's experiencing that. And there's not enough sympathy and empathy and understanding for that. It's absolutely horrifying to feel those things, I can imagine. So that was a big part of the reason why I was like, okay, I need to take some time away. But I wasn't thinking about that yet. Right when I was getting out of that postpartum haze, I was like, I'm feeling good. then I get diagnosed with breast cancer. And then it was like, it was a very aggressive, fast moving cancer that was like all over both breasts. So I went through many surgeries, five surgeries.

47:35And then in that process, I was like, I think I need to step away from being in the public eye. Wow. And it's also just important to point out you had no symptoms. And so you took this lifetime risk assessment test, which told you you had a very high number and that's saved your life. I mean, that's huge. Yeah, I had a clear mammogram and a clear ultrasound and I did clear genetic testing as well or genetic testing, it came back clear. A lot of people ask about BRCA and BRCA is a very well-known breast cancer gene, but there are many breast cancer genes and I tested negative for all cancer genes.

48:11Yeah, so there's a thing, I know. The lifetime risk assessment test and it's a free online test. It takes minutes to take. It's been around for a very long time, but a lot of people don't know about it. Anything above 20 % is considered high risk. And it's a score that will tell you how likely you are to get breast cancer in your lifetime. And mine was 37.3%. Oh, man. Okay. So I went to go get the MRI. And the doctor called me that day. And he's like, I think I see something on your right breast. You should go get an ultrasound. I said, okay, go get the ultrasound. And then the doctor's taking some time.

48:43And it's never really good when they're quiet, right? So I'm like, is everything okay? and she's like well i see the one from the mri but now i'm finding two more oh fuck okay and then she's explains it to me so with our women our breasts are like circles and they put a cross through it and then there's quadrants and so multifocal means there's more than one in one quadrant multi-quadrant is that there's two different quadrants it's not it's not that abnormal to have multifocal in one quadrant but it's abnormal to have it in yeah two quadrants multiple quadrants so they're like okay you should go get a biopsy so i go get a biopsy And they're like, yeah, it's a very aggressive, fast-moving cancer.

49:17And it's not normal to have multifocal, multi-quadrant at your age. And then they're like, well, let's go back to your original MRI and look at the other side. And they looked at the left breast. They go, okay, yes, we got to go an MRI biopsy on this. And they did that one as well. And so they're like, so then I was diagnosed with multifocal, multi-quadrant bilateral breast cancer. and then after my double mastectomy they send it off for pathology and they find um a tangerine cissection of more breast cancer in my right breast because you know they look for it's called clearing the margin so when they get your tumors they take the tissue out and you want to make you they want to come back and be like okay we we were able to clear margin so whatever tissue sample we got we able to say we got the tumor because there is clear there's clear tissue all around it um and because they did my whole um double mastectomy they will take all the tissue out but they were like, okay, we weren't able to get clear margins till past like a tangerine size section of more.

50:11So, and that was, and I would never have, I would not have found it until it was a much later stage if I didn't take the lifetime risk assessment test. Wow. And then a year after that, a little less than a year after that, I would have my mom do a mammogram. My mom just turned 70. I had her, this was last year. Yeah. I had her do a mammogram and ultrasound it's clear clear and i did her lifetime risk assessment score and she scored um in a high risk and so then we had her do an mri and she has um she was diagnosed with her to breast cancer it's a type of breast cancer that can double in size every six weeks what so when she when she got when we found it a few weeks later she has her double mastectomy and it already become multifocal ah because it was i gotta do this yeah you do it's a really i'm actually working with Senator Mark Kelly on legislation that will help make it a lot easier for women to have this done just because the onus shouldn't be on us to always know about these things.

51:11And I can, I will, you know, this is a, one of the biggest missions in my life besides being, you know, a mother and a wife and a daughter, I want to help as many women as I can with this. It's so simple, but it shouldn't be on us to know about it. You know, when we go into our doctors, they take our blood pressure, They ask about like our cholesterol and they should also say, what's your lifetime risk assessment score? And so we're working with, I'm working with Senator Kelly on figuring out a way to get every doctor in our country to make that part of their standard of care. All right. Lifetime risk assessment test.

51:48That is huge. Yeah. I better write it down for you. There's a specific one, the Tyra Cusick one. I have it in my Lincoln bio in my Instagram. because there's one called the Gale something other. It's the Tyra Cusick one. They're all a little bit different for some reason, but. We can put it in the show notes. Yeah, yeah, put it in the show notes. Well, now you're working on your friends and neighbors with Mr. Jon Hamm, and I bet it's nice to be, you know, it must be nice to be back in it, I would think, kind of therapeutic to be working and making that great show. I really do love that show. Thanks, I'm so happy you like it.

52:26and we got to do this again sometime yeah oh my gosh it just settled in what else are we going to talk about well finding hoses I hope my friend Kara I'm going to make her listen to this she was the one who taught me that she's an architect do you know California Chicken Cafe out here of course she's like the the VP of branding there and she's the one who redesigned all of the California Chicken Cafes out here they're like I've noticed they've got a new look yeah they do they have new font and everything. There's one on no roast. That makes me like the chicken more. It's all about presentation.

53:00Sometimes there's a really good chicken with bad font. And I'm like, I'm not doing this shit. You're a big font guy. I'm very big on a font. What I learned is they did better during COVID than a lot of places because everybody's looking for like just a healthy, easy alternative. So much so that they don't do eat-in anymore. Yeah. They don't. You know a lot about this place. I sure do. She knows her fast foods and your food outlets, right? Isn't that fair to say? That's fair to say. It's not really fast. It's not like Carl's Jr. Burger King. No, no. You're just lifting off a whole other places.

53:32It is. It's like that. It's good. And you don't have to walk in. They have like a window now and you just go order. Is there one out by us? There's... I don't think so. If I go to one, it's the one on Melrose. Excuse me, we're talking here. Let us talk. Can I just say the best one of all is Pollo Loco because for a while... It's El Pollo Loco. Please. Okay. I like La Polla I like to feminize things because women need to be heard and seen. But also I like a chicken that's gone insane. I like a chicken that's eyes are crossed and it's gone insane. And then the chicken is telling you eat chicken, but the chicken's gone insane.

54:12And it's this crazy thing where you're like, a chicken's gone so insane. He's telling people to eat more of my kind. Game recognizes game. Exactly. Game recognizes foul. all right well my best to to Kooky John you know I mean he loves you well I love him listen be well I'm so glad that you're healthy I'm glad that you have these two beautiful children and that you have this great family I'm just pretty happy for you thank you so much I mean it really means a lot I mean just so happy to be here with you guys I mean we love your show everybody loves your show and they have to it's the law but it's been so nice I don't want to leave now well you can stay this is a nice place to hang what happens next what do you guys do next why don't you just go out for a tasty freeze yeah I mean a little California chicken cat CCC is what the kids call it yeah that's what I call it do you guys interview somebody else after this or do you have one a day no we tend to record more stuff but yeah I don't know if we're doing more yeah next week we're doing we do segments separately and all that I think that's it for today you know sometimes we just do local news and weather yeah how many episodes do we do a year well this is interesting you're gonna be the 400th episode me yes yeah yeah which means you get a pair 400 someone did not plan that right I feel like it should have been no it doesn't no please it's like but you get a pair of socks that's exciting okay Olivia I wanna thank you sorry hold on yeah yeah adjust your clothing and here we go Olivia thank you very much for being oh hi start again Olivia yes I just want to tell you that it was lovely having you here on Colonel O 'Brien Needs a Friend I do consider you a friend and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors and now I say both to you and to people all around America and in the heartland listening thank you and good night

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57:40That's good for her. You guys should do a segment where you guys discuss new words that kids use these days. Oh, wow. That's a good one. Hey, Kira 8 Kira. I'm so glad that you got through chemo. And love the suggestion. It's the new, what the words that kids are using these days. Words that kids are using these days. Do you know? Sure. There's riz. I've been told I've got riz. By no one? I was going to say, I'd name one person. No one. Apparently, I am riz-free. But it's a good word. Yeah. It's good slang. Do you know what the slang is these days? I know cap, no cap. What's cap, no cap? Cap is you're telling the truth.

58:20No cap is you're telling the truth. Cap is when you are not telling the truth. Okay. That's right, yeah. Because it's all about hiding behind a cap. Someone explained it to me. Oh, so use it in a sentence. hey dude you're you got you got a cap on right now oh what well no I'm trying to use it in a sense I know but I just told you you have no hey Cohen no cap you did great at the Oscars oh thanks a lot yeah okay okay I don't like that I just think it's these new phrases should be easier to say. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's why like the guy's got riz makes sense to me because you're saying a lot in a very short little word.

59:07Yeah. That's why I think it's useful. No cap cap just feels like it's you're complicating something that's, you know, it's not meant for you. And then I think there's the one about any. Don't they add maxing now to everything? Yeah. There's all like frame frame mogging gesture maxing. Oh, well, that's because of the social media star who looks maxing, which he helped invest. And I thought of a joke the other day. I ran over a controversial social media person with my truck. Yeah, I was charged with clavicular homicide. Okay. Look, I'm getting mad respect. I wrote that joke the other day because I saw him being a douche somewhere.

59:58And I just was like, OK, that's what Sona has her head down like she's going to puke. I don't know what to know. I did a bit on the Oscars that was all about me trying to appeal to young people. Yes. But the whole joke was that's impossible if you're doing it on you're doing it on broadcast television. And that was the joke. but someone sent me a clip of clavicular watching it and saying the dude that's wasting his time trying to be cool on network tv and i thought you know that's the joke clavicular but then i realized i'm engaging in an argument with clavicular um and that's when i thought i should use this time for good and write a joke about clavicular where he gets hit by a truck and then i came up with it We, sorry, are charged with clavicular homicide.

1:00:48You. Come on, high fives all around. No high fives. You say so much nonsensical words. I feel like you could come up with a slang term. I'd come up with something a lot better than cap, no cap. That's for sure. Okay, let's say, hey, are you serious? Say something that's like, hey, this is serious. I'm Sears, S-R-Z. Sears? No, that's a department store for people who still remember it. It was a department store. No, it's long gone. Sears is so long gone. we can change it and it's just SRZ. Okay. Hey Sears, what are you gonna do? Can you say I'm Sears like it's 1998. What's that? I don't know. Okay, you're, I think I'm better at this than you are and I think you're drifting away.

1:01:24What do you think? You must, you're the closest to this age. I was gonna say, Adam's probably the expert because his kids are like the perfect age. Yeah. I do hear cap, no cap. Tell them it's not good and to switch to Sears, SRZ. Low key, people say all the time and you actually in your Oscars thing said, which was really funny and we say it at home now, or something like that. Yeah, low-paymenly. Yeah. Which I think you made up, but it's like a play on low-key. Yeah. They say low-key a lot. I just said what Skylar Higley told me to say. That was one where it was like teaching a dog how to speak by putting peanut butter on its lips.

1:01:56Skylar said, say these words and it will be funny. And I went, okay, Skylar. So Sears. So Sears. Hey, Sears. I thought that was a good bit. Give us another one. Yeah. No, no. But what's the... You don't know? I feel like I don't know. No, no. Oh, Blake has one. Yeah. Oh, a lot of times people will talk to chat. Like, yeah, chat. That's, you know, because when you're live streaming, you're looking at a chat that people are talking about, but people are bringing it IRL into into real life and saying, oh, yeah, chat, let's go out to dinner at, you know, Chipotle or whatever. Well, I don't. But OK, they're referencing that, yes, a chat can be happening while you're having a conversation online.

1:02:36They'll say chat instead of guys like, hey, guys, let's go do this. Hey, that's OK. That's bad. Or there's like the silent scream. I feel like Gen Z does. Have you seen that? Where they'll go like. Oh, I've never seen that before. They'll also say bet. Yeah, bet. Bet I've heard a lot. Bet is really big. You know what I want to do? I want to grow even older in ignorance. That's my dream is just to drift away on the ice and just not know about no cap, chip chop, flip flop, squabbledy doo. I love it. You do? Do you did you not use slang terms when you were younger? I think I used slang terms from the 40s when I was growing up in the 70s.

1:03:14You must have been so cool. I was like, hey, 23 Skidoo, you know. I was always trapped in the 1930s and 40s in the late 1970s, you know. So yeah, I was a weird, weird kid and no one should do as I did. All right, I think we learned a lot. And also in a way we learned nothing. And maybe we now know less than we did before. And we've accomplished our mission. Sears. Cheers. Cheers. Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend. With Conan O 'Brien, Sonam Avsessian, and Matt Gourley. Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and Nick Leow. Theme song by The White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino.

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