Rachel Sennott

26:29That's where, yes, that's why it's like, it's like, you're like, why, why are you guys freaks? Not saying you're a freak, but I'm just saying Catholics. Do you know what I mean? Because you're like, you have, you live in this push and pull of like control, not control, whatever. But I feel, yeah, I'm always reaching for control, whatever. But the most beautiful things happen sometimes when you just are like in flow, free flowing. Yeah. And you're right. it's like those things are a gift. And like when something goes wrong on set or whatever, it turns into the funniest moment or the most beautiful moment.

27:01But I feel that way, too, where I'm a planner. I like to know what's happening, which is which is good. That's the lesson of all of this is it's not good versus bad. It's you need both. And then another part of this that I find fascinating, which I know nothing about and I'm freely admit I know nothing about it, but you play someone who you're best friends with somebody. She's an influencer. You were helping her be an influencer. The idea was you were both going to move out to LA and you're going to manage your friend who's an influencer. She decides to stay in New York. You go it alone. And so you're working at a company where you're managing or helping to take care of influencers.

27:41I know nothing about that, but I also know that it's a huge part of an industry right now. Yeah. Maybe the industry. I haven't seen it depicted yet. I was watching the show and I was thinking, oh my God, you're right. These influencers who make a funny video or a meme and they're holding a bag, a certain bag, that is a business. Yeah. They're making a lot of money. Yeah. They're getting sent a lot of products. and of course there'd be a management system for them. And I don't know anything about it. Yeah. I mean, no one's, people actively don't want me making videos where I hold a product. Yeah, I actually want that.

28:20I'm like, afterwards, we'll do a video of you in this bag. I have, yeah. I've been paid a lot of money not to hold products. Not to do it, they're paying you to not hold a purse. Yeah, exactly. No, but I felt like, I'm so happy you say that because we kept talking about the show, like a reference point being like Entourage for Internet Girls. Yeah, yeah. Because we were like, Like, I feel like we've seen Hollywood done a lot. And I feel like the internet is such its own world and business. And it's not separate from Hollywood. There's crossover. But I think like I was like, this is how I came up.

28:56I came up being online. Any of my friends who are like working in this industry now came up online. I also know people who just do that. That's their only job is like the Internet and their videos or fashion or whatever. And so I think also like the Internet, people like sometimes struggle to show the Internet in film and TV because it moves so quickly. Yes. It's evolving so rapidly that if you try and depict it and your project isn't coming out for nine months, by the time it comes out, people are like, well, that's lame. Yeah. No one does that anymore. It's very dated. And so I was like, the way we tried to do it was make our own internet in the show where it moves and lives and breathes in the same way like the internet does.

29:43But we don't reference anything specific. It's like exists in the same way as it does for us where it like informs all the characters lives. It's part of their lives and their business. But we don't, it doesn't hopefully doesn't feel clunky or like, yeah, we we get it. You know what I mean? Because no one wants to see the other thing we kind of took from Entourage is like, you don't see too much of like Vince acting. You see like his world and his like friend group and their dynamics. But it's like you that's what he does. But you don't see it. Like it's like, we don't need to see Tallulah posting every second.

30:22Like we get it. the Dick Van Dyke show, which is the, you know, oldest reference I can come up with. It literally starts. That show literally starts before I was born. So it's old even for me. But when I was growing up, that was a show about for you kids out there listening to this interview. That was a show about a comedy writer. And that had not been depicted yet because they think this is a time when, you know, people are everything's so meta now. People all know behind the scenes. Everyone's so savvy. But back then, people honestly didn't think that I think shows were writing, you know, that that's just Lucy.

30:58Lucy's kooky. No, no, no. She has writers and they work all of this out. And it's but so it was a show about a comedy writer. And what they never did was they never really showed you the sketches. Yeah. And I thought it was all of them. Well, I think we got it for today. And then it was about their lives around that. And it's the same thing. All these years later, I always, it's a pulp fiction. They never show you what's in the suitcase. It's just a light. And it's such a smart thing to do, but that's Tarantino saying there's this thing that's incredibly valuable and everybody wants it. And you don't even need to know any more than that.

31:34That's the whole concept. That's what matters. Yeah. What you said about the Dick Van Dyke show, which I'm familiar with, but haven't really given it a full dive in. It's in black and white. Okay. It's in black and white. Should I check it out? I'll colorize it for you. Okay, perfect. You'll put it in little 30 second clips and you'll cut it together with a video of someone playing with slime next to it. Exactly. And then I can watch it. No, it'll be someone unwrapping. Yes. Unwrapping a box and then Dick Van Dyke's in there doing his shtick. I love it. In 10 second clips I'll go, ooh. Yeah. But like, the same thing.

32:08The other thing is I was like, nothing is really new. Like, I think I felt certain times during this where it was like, I've got to make something totally new. And like, you know, you're going to be compared to things and you want to do your own thing. But it's like, everything is like from what comes before it. But you have to take, you know, your own blend of references and ideas. At the end of the day, people are people like relationships are like this era, the moment of like your late 20s is always, oh, I want to know about if you had a Saturn return. Did I ask you about that? What? A Saturn return.

32:43No, I don't know. Yeah. Are you going through yours right now? No, I'm 32. Okay. Wait, what's this? A Saturn return is like end of your 20s. Oh, oh my God. I thought you were going to return a car, the Saturn, because of a defect. That's where I went. So I thought, well, if you're not happy with the Saturn. Do you think Joe couldn't return her Saturn because she's 32? Joe couldn't return her Saturn. That's a policy that they have. That car companies He's been defunct for 15 years at least. I don't even know what that is. I only know because Dick Van Dyke drove a Saturn. Dick Van Dyke drove a black and white Saturn.

33:20Oh my God. No. I want to know about this. Yeah. Okay. So you're into astrology. I am. Okay. Tell me what Saturn return means. Okay. I have so many questions. I'm going to maybe need to pull up your chart or like dive in. Because do you know what sign you are? I'm an Aries. An Aries. Yeah. What does that mean to you if I say Aries? An Aries. You're a Virgo with a backbone. Okay. I understand. Okay, totally. But you're a Libra that's kind of a pussy. Do you know you're rising in your moon? No, I don't. Okay, we'll find it later. But basically, an Aries is like fire. Right. Don't mess with you. But you have like an order to you.

33:57Like you could have a temper isn't what I would say, but it's like fiery. And it's like, don't mess with me. Don't mess with the people I love. I would say I have, I can be intense. You can be intense. You can't. I think because you're particular about how you like your comedy to be. Yeah. And I think if people hinder that or overwork you in a certain way, it's frustrating. Well, it's so funny. There's so many things that I don't care about. And then if it comes to comedy, something where I'm supposed to be funny, if someone's getting in the way, I become like an insane Viking. Yes. With a broad source.

34:32Yes, you have your hills that you'll die on. You're like, this is what I care about. Are they very passive aggressive? Aries? Yeah. Or are they just aggressive? I think that's the Catholic. Okay. I think that's not astrology. I think that's something else. So tell me. Because we're all, but we're made up of all. But let's get to this thing because you talk about it in the show and it's really fascinating because I've had this experience of, well, I know exactly when it happened, but it's happened a bunch of times. Yeah. When I'm in New York, I go, we sometimes tape podcasts in New York when I'm there and we do them at Sirius XM, which is in Midtown, right across from Rockefeller Center, my old stomping ground.

35:08And I'll go into the lobby and there've been a couple of times where there was one time in particular where there were a bunch of young women who I think were waiting to gather to go to lunch. And they saw me and they came over. They said, can we get a selfie? And I said, sure. And I just started chatting with them about how's it going? What's up? And gave them a little bit of advice, probably like the advice they gave you because I'm constantly lecturing young people. But at one point, some of the women started talking about, oh, my God, I'm so old. And I said, how old are you? and they're like, we're 28.

35:38And I wasn't eating anything, but I started choking on imaginary food. I was doing a spit take with no water. I was like, you're 28 and you're talking about how old you are? And I forgot, that just sounds insane to me right now. But I do remember getting out of college, moving out to LA, turning 23, then turning 24 and thinking, oh my God, it's over for me. It's so over. And so I basically yelled at these people and said, you have no idea how young you are. But I know that, you know, your character has her 28th birthday and it's kind of traumatic. And I think, what? What is the Saturn returns?

36:19It's so it's like three years, but there's like a period in it. It's different. It happens sometime between 27 and 30. And it's basically like your reckoning of like, I feel like it shakes up your life, which is why I'm interested to hear, like, if you can remember something from the end of your 20s. You bet I can. You bet I can. And I'm guessing it's your sudden return because it shakes everything up. And then, like, you go through a breakup or you lose a job or you blah, blah, blah, whatever. Something chaotic. And by the way... I've got a huge one. Can't freaking wait. But it's like, you feel like it's...

36:55She said that in a way like, please don't ever tell me. No, I love... Can't fucking wait. Shut up. Go ahead. That's okay. No, no. I was just saying it's like it happens to everyone, but it feels like it's only happening to you. And then it lands you where you're meant to be. Oh, it's kind of. But tell me your story. Oh, it's so simple, which is I'm 29. I'm a writer producer on The Simpsons. Everything should be good. But I think, no, I'm not where I'm supposed to be. Something else is supposed to happen. It feels weird. I just was. And I remembered my agent at the time saying, well, you could get an overall deal to be at the Simpsons for five more years and you could make, you know, and I was like, no, no, I can't take that because something's supposed to happen.

37:37Yes. One of the crazier things in show business happens, which is, uh, there's only like, there's, there's David Letterman doesn't get the Tonight Show and he suddenly announces I'm leaving, which no one thought he would do. Yeah. And suddenly NBC doesn't have a late night show at 1230. They don't know what to do because this is back before the internet. So today they would look at 700. There'd be a million people who are viable and there'd be 900 hours of everybody. But they don't have that. And these jobs back then, there weren't, there were two late night talk shows. That's it. Or just at that point, it was one or maybe two.

38:20And they're the main guy, David Letterman has left or is leaving, announces he's leaving soon in a couple of months. They don't know what to do. So NBC says, well, we got to keep the affiliates in line. Let's just get Lorne Michaels to decide. And that calms everybody down. Like, oh, good. Lorne Michaels, Saturday Night Live. He'll figure it out. Lorne goes looking. It's a long story, but cut to him just in a room saying, there was this writer who worked for us who's got something. Conan O 'Brien. And they're like, what? And I do an audition. I'm so loose in the audition because I think I'll never get this.

38:57And then one thing leads to another. They say, no, it's going to be Gary Shanling. It'll never be you. And then suddenly they go, you know, it's him. And they call me. I'm in the basement of The Simpsons. And they say, you're going to take over this massive job. There's no footage of you. Everything I'd ever done was on stage. There's nothing. I don't even have a headshot. And everyone freaks out. And that's what happened. That's a pretty common Saturn return. Yeah. Most people. But you know, that was how I, and that all happened. The audition, everything happened when I was 29. Yeah. And then I am waiting to hear back and I have my 30th birthday in my LA apartment on Weatherly.

39:41And then a couple of days after my 30th birthday. You get the call. I get the call. Yeah. That your life's changed. Saturn return, bitch. Saturn returned. I told you. What was your Saturn return? Working for you. Getting my job working for you. That's right. You were in your late 20s. I was 27. Well, 26 and I turned 27. And that changed my life. I've been working for you. It's been cool. It's been okay. Wow. Ring endorsement. It really has. I mean, it's like everything changed once that happened. What about you, Matt? Well, mine was, yeah, I went through a really bad breakup and just took a month off work and had the same lunch every day at this bar.

40:22and went home and got high and watched a James Bond movie. You showed her. That sounds real nice. She could see me now. But I started thinking, I'm going to read every Shakespeare play. And in two days, it was like, I'm just going to watch every James Bond movie. Yeah, yeah. That for about a month. I look back on it so nostalgically now. It was a hard time, but now I'm really fond of it. No, but it shapes you. It shaped me. I went through a bad breakup in New York that was prior to all this. And I remembered I got a Seamus Heaney poetry book. Oh my God. Kept it in my back pocket. And I would lie down on park benches in Manhattan and read from a poetry book.

41:04And I thought, this is who I am now. And then three days later, I was like, I gotta get a job. And I went out to LA and worked on the Simpsons. But I remember thinking for a minute, this is who I am now. I'm a hard bitch, 28-year-old who reads Seamus Heaney poetry. You're a hobo. Lying down. I'm a hobo. Yeah, you are. You're like a romantic hobo. I'm a romantic hobo. The saddest part was that the lunch I had every day was a, I went to an Irish pub and I had a corned beef sandwich, a deep fried Snickers bar, and a Guinness every single day. Oh, my God. I know. I can't believe I'm alive. That's fabulous.

41:39And that's why I stand before you the way I am here today. Incredible. Well, Rachel, it feels to me like you've had nine of these in your teens and 20s. Like you've had. Like mini ones. Well, mini ones. You've got a very big jump on a career at a very early age. I don't know. I think a lot of people in my age and younger feel like there have been a lot of like setbacks. Like it's like basically like Shiva Baby was so supposed to premiere at South By and then it was canceled because of COVID. And then I was like, oh, my God, my career is over because of COVID. Like, when is this going to end? Whatever.

42:15Then we get back into the industry. We get to make bottoms. Bottoms comes out during the strike. And like there's there's I think like. And you couldn't promote it during the strike? Couldn't promote it during the strike. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. But the girls on TikTok did it for us. Literally, literally shout out because I was like they they took the movie and ran with it. That's great. And that was amazing. but I think like I felt sort of a similar thing to you which is like basically like I think you get the early 20s were really chaotic I was like I don't know what I'm doing by the mid-20s I was like not the Simpsons but you have your you have your stuff where you feel like okay I've got my thing I know what I'm doing and then just all of a sudden like something feels wrong and you're like, I don't know what it is.

43:01And you sort of like sit in something feeling wrong for like two years or a year, whether it be a relationship or being like, I'm not quite doing like, I'm doing what I want to be doing, but I'm not doing it all the way or I need whatever. And like, you have to make that leap. Like, I don't know if when you said, I'm not doing an overall deal at the Simpsons, your agent said, you're a fucking idiot. He did say that. Okay. Awesome. And it's like, because you're like, I don't have the next job. I don't know what it is. I feel something. I, for me, like, I think it was like the jump of fully stepping into a creative role on my own.

43:38It's really scary. I think I've always felt insecure in myself as like a writer on my own. I just, in general, I feel like I'm like, I feel like I'm a good like pep talker, cheerleader. I get like, I get to-do lists done, but I never really felt like I'm that talented. In general, I think I'm just like more of a hard worker than I am talented. But that's, you know that that's how everybody feels. I think being hardworking is a good part of it. No, but that's how I would have, I mean, everybody has that. Yeah. Not, I don't, that's just so common. Yeah. That, you know, I always thought that, well, I get by because I work.

44:25Because I do my homework. I can outwork anybody and I do my homework. Yeah. And then it was a long time. And look, all these years later, I still have those days. Yeah. We all have that. When you show me someone who is an artist of any kind and they have no insecurity and they have no doubt and they have no fear, I think I have no interest in seeing their art. None. Yeah. I just have none. but it's it's scary and it's like there's a difference between being in someone else's thing and being a part of it and knowing like well if it doesn't go well I can say hey I'm just the actor or like I just did I didn't you know what I mean like yeah I had no control to step into a role where you're like oh if people hate this they hate me like you're not actually but kind of like I'm like, I, there's no, I'm like, it's like my name, my name.

45:19I'm like, it's me. It's I'm naked in it. I wrote it. I'm like, it's very vulnerable. And so I like, well, I was in the process of waiting to see if the show got picked up. I had like done the pilot. I was waiting to see if the show got picked up. This is HBO. You're waiting to hear from HBO. This is from HBO. And I am like having to say no to other things. And it's really scary because I'm like, I don't know if the show is happening. I don't know if I'm good enough. I go through a breakup. I get arrested in the Cayman Islands. It's that was my. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. And this all happened in one month.

45:58What happened in the Cayman Islands? I brought, this is on me, but I brought a CBD joint in my back. It was, I didn't even do it on purpose. It was like, I had like a leftover CBD joint that I bought in a grocery store in like the back of my purse. And then they really search your bag. Like they search your bag. She's like taking out my vibrator. I'm like, girl, put that away in the middle of the airport. Like they search your bag. And she was like, do you have any drugs on you? And I was like, I do not have drugs on me. So then like I was like, like, why would I have drugs? But then I didn't know CBD was also illegal.

46:33So then she finds a CBD. So then I got in trouble for lying about the drugs. Killingman Islands is the hub of white collar crime and they bust you for a CBD joint? That's insane. And I was, they took my phone away. Shout the fuck out, Claire, my assistant who's out there. You met her. She thought I was kidnapped. So they take my phone and my passport. I'm in jail for like five hours. Nothing. Claire thinks I've been kidnapped because she's calling the hotel. She's like, has anyone seen Rachel? Some people at the hotel had seen me getting into an unmarked white van. So then Claire, which is how they take people to jail there.

47:06What the fuck? And so then Claire's like, she's been kidnapped. So then Claire's like calling the embassy. This is a good assistant because Sona, in the same situation, if they said, we've heard reports that Conan's gone, he's not at his hotel, he's been taken in a white van, you'd be like, all right, well, let me know. Hit the clubs. I'm hitting the clubs. Is the joint okay? And tell me more about this joint. Did they throw that away? Hey, can they mail it back? They should send that back to us. That's evidence. I might need to look at that. I should look at that. Keep him. Give me the joy. Were you scared or were you pretty confident?

47:41I was scared. I think I was also just having a breakdown in my life where I was literally like, I don't have a show. I just turned down these other jobs. I am in the middle of a breakup with my boyfriend and now I'm in jail? I was like, wait a second. I was just like, I got really freaked out where I was like, I was crying in there. And then I started telling the girl about my breakup. And it was just all, anyways, Claire called my lawyers and they knew a lawyer on the Cayman Islands who came and got me out of jail. So it was all fine. I just had to apologize on camera and get a mugshot. And I do have a record there.

48:21It's okay. I love it. I mean, it's badass. It's badass. I wanted the picture so bad. I was like, please send me the mugshot. They did let me put on makeup for the mugshot, which was, I thought, really sweet. I was like, I've been traveling, I'm sweating. She was like, you can go into your bag for mascara. But that was all like in one month. And then I got back from the Cayman Islands and the show got picked up. That's great. And then it was my birthday, my 29th birthday. So mine maybe came a little earlier than yours. But now I just had my 30th birthday right before the show comes out. So it's very like, it feels like, I don't know.

48:58it feels like a very like mystical time where everything is like shifting and whatever but i felt so out of control yeah that whole time and i was like i don't know why i just feel like i have to trust yeah but it's that same thing where it's like you don't know well here's what i'll tell you i am very confident that people are going to love your show i am and um because i know youth culture No, no, I, I, it's really well done. It's your show is really well done. I am confident that people are going to really like this show because I was binge watching it and, uh, and really impressed. And I think you're very impressive.

49:40I thought so when we got to talk and I met you, um, and I'm a huge fan and I'm just excited to do, to see all the things you're going to do. I really am. So just we're going to wrap it up as I want to let you go and make more cool things. But I'm a cheerleader. I'm an old doddering cheerleader. I love it. And I'm really happy for you. I'm that really means a lot. And especially you watching all in a row means a lot to me because I know you've seen. I'm like you thinking it's funny means a lot because you're the funniest. So that's sweet. thank you yeah I thought I'd bring it sincere at the end alright thank you so much for having me this was amazing this was so fun thank you so much for doing it this was great this was great and you came in and hugged everybody and I've never touched these people you won't even look us in the eye I didn't have it met you until today it's nice to see you yeah

50:46hey Sona quick question You were talking about something that intrigued me when I entered the room. And then you quickly changed the topic. I got the sense that you are babysitting, even though you have twin four-year-old boys who take up a lot of your time. Why are you taking on a babysitting gig? What's going on? My friend has a baby who's about nine months old, almost nine months old. And they just need somebody for just a couple hours every week. What are you doing this for? For funsies. No. Can I tell you something? No, you don't get to talk on this podcast. Okay, all right. This is a podcast where white men bloviate.

51:23You be quiet. I'll handle this. Yeah. Yeah, you take over. Thank you. I'm going to pass the ball over to the other white guy. Listen. Star Wars. Here's what I don't understand. I don't understand. You have twin boys. Yes, I do. And Mikey and Charlie. And they are a handful. Sure are. Excuse me? Did you say handful? Yeah. Handful. No, handful. I changed it. It's when you, nevermind. What were you gonna say, Hanfield? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What's your fucking problem? What are you talking about? What the fuck, Matt? What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

51:59Were you gonna say something really inappropriate? Yeah. Oh, it's all coming out. It's all coming out. What? What coming out? I mean, I'm editing it out. No, you're not gonna edit. Oh, so if I make a mistake, it stays in. Yes. And if you become. Yes, that's the only thing I have in my life is that. I don't know what he's talking about. What I'm saying, I misspoke slightly and said handful instead of handful. Yeah, we both made fun of you. It was fun. We had a good time. Yeah, isn't it funny that Conan's bleeding into his brain? Come on. So as he ages, he's falling apart. Ha ha. But that's not what we're going to talk about.

52:37You have twin boys who are very young. How old are they? Three? They're four. Four. Or still, that's very young. Yeah, they are. And then you took on, you were like, hey, throw that nine month old my way. Well, so here's the thing. My kids go to school and then, you know, I'm working on my second book, but that's really all I've got going on. Are you doing this just to get more material? And then chapter 15, I got a nine month old. I have to say I had twins and we were really in it. And now I'm watching one baby and it's not that hard. Like, babies, they eat, and they, like, you go for a walk, and then they sleep, and then you play, and it's fun.

53:16Oh, so you're shaming anyone out there who's having a hard time with one child, Sonam Obsessian? I'm just saying, if you've had two, one, after having twins, is more manageable. Okay, so why don't you tell Matt? Why are you complaining? I'm not complaining. No, I know. I agree. It's fun. It's so much fun to watch a baby. Are you getting paid? No, of course not. There are no need to do anything and not demand your share. Are you paying to do it? I mean, no, I'm having fun doing it. I like hanging out with this kid. He's a really fun baby. He's really sweet. He has a little bit of separation anxiety, which is tough.

53:53And then, you know, we're just chilling. Me and this baby hang out. Do you have moments, be honest, when the baby's melting down and you're not happy with the gig? No, I don't. I'm being serious. I don't. And I like it. And you know what? Maybe I'll be a nanny now. Maybe this is it for me. Maybe I'm going to quit this job and nanny. You would leave this job and be a nanny? I'm not hearing a no. Was this a resignation? I'm not hearing a no. Do you got something she could sign? I basically babysat you for 12 years. Wah! You did not. Wah! I was a very emotionally mature adult. Wow. Even as I said it, my jaw started to rot off.

54:33I agree with you that you did babysit me and sometimes it was incredibly immature I suppose you have to coddle a genius okay what do you mean you don't have to coddle do you? yes okay I don't know you're saying you're a genius what part of that sentence did you not understand do I stutter? no whatever and Phil excuse me? yes and Phil That's a genius way of saying handful. I don't like to say the things that everyone says. I like to invent new ways of communicating. I think you're a real handful. You've filled my hand with your problems. It's mine is, it just cuts through. I guess Joyce used a lot of language that people didn't understand.

55:20Okay. Yeah. I meant Joyce Cole Haywick. She was a broadcaster in Boston. Do you know who he's talking about? You laughed really hard at you. Yeah, he laughed so hard. I'm twisting because he was talking about James Joyce and then he twisted it. Hey, you really enjoyed my humor. I thought you knew who Joyce Cole Haywick was. No, I don't enjoy your humor. By the way, if you grew up in the Boston area, shout out to Joyce Cole Haywick. Shout out! Shout out to Joyce Cole Haywick! Shoot the noob! Shoot the noob with Joyce Cole Haywick! She was a big star when I was growing up in Boston. In local news?

55:49Yeah. Oh, I had no idea who she was. Oh, okay. Okay, we just lost all of everyone. You took us down a comedy cul-de-sac. Nope, I'm checking right now and our... You took us down a comedy handful. Whoa, look at this. Our numbers in Roxbury, Massachusetts have just gone through the roof. This doesn't go out live. I just want to say that I'm very happy that you're looking after this nine-month-old. Yeah. And it sounds like a win-win for you. So much fun. For you, a win-win-win. For you, the mom, and the baby. Yeah. You know, because you're a wonderful person. What? I don't like this. Why can't you ever just accept when I'm nice to you?

56:24Call is bluff. Call is bluff. I've worked for you for so long. You've never just been purely sincere. That's not true. I have been sincere before. Haven't you heard it, Eduardo? I've seen it. Yeah. Because you're always nice to Eduardo. No, I've seen him be sincere to you. Yes. Thank you, Eduardo. Thank you. When I've told you. I've never seen it. We always cut it out. He calls me later. Take it out. Take it out. Yeah. I'm just saying sometimes when you say something nice, I hold my breath and I wait for what's next. You shouldn't wait. Because there's always a joke after. Let's do it. Will you say that nice thing again and see if you can just let him sit in it?

56:59Okay. Go ahead. I think that you'd be a great nanny. And I think that's a lucky nine month old and a lucky mom that's tricked you into working for free. I know your face. Oh, you know my face? Yeah, I know your face. You're not doing, no, that's not. Oh, that's the worst. That's the worst. No, I'm being sincere. That's the worst. Where's my camera right here? I know when you're being sincere, your face is not. Sona, you mean a great deal to me. I really respect you You've been a great friend And I trust you I trust you more than I trust anyone Oh my gosh Awful Who do you look like? I look like someone who just drank sour milk Yeah I look like an emoji that just drank sour milk God bless you, Sona Yeah, I'm having fun Yeah, and I think it's a great idea If you leave this very lucrative gig And go nanny for free Yeah Conan O 'Brien needs a friend With Conan O 'Brien Sona Mavsessian And Matt Gorley Produced by me, Matt Gourley Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and Nick Liao Theme song by The White Stripes Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino Take it away, Jimmy

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