When will sufficient aid be allowed into Gaza? UNICEF says Gazans need more

5 Oct 2025 · 7 min

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When will sufficient aid be allowed into Gaza? UNICEF says Gazans need more

Overview This episode explores the humanitarian crisis in Gaza amid ongoing peace negotiations between Israel and Hamas. The discussion highlights the pressing need for aid in the region, especially following a declaration of famine by a UN-backed panel. Andrew Limbong interviews James Elder, a UNICEF spokesperson, about the dire situation in Gaza, the challenges of delivering aid, and the political dynamics influencing humanitarian efforts.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Hope for Peace
  2. The episode opens with a sense of cautious optimism regarding the peace negotiations between Israel and Hamas.
  3. Quote: Anas Baba reports from Gaza, capturing feelings of relief among residents like Iman Abu Akalain, who described life as a "pressure cooker."
  1. Humanitarian Needs in Gaza
  2. Over a million Gazans are in urgent need of food and medical supplies.
  3. The conversation emphasizes that humanitarian aid has been severely limited, despite declarations of famine.
  1. Challenges of Aid Delivery
  2. James Elder's Insights:
  3. Reports on critical shortages of food and medicine, mentioning specific cases like children in need of painkillers post-amputation.
  4. Describes a lack of basic medical equipment, such as incubators for newborns.
  • Unfulfilled Promises:
  • Elder states that despite the famine declaration, meaningful aid has not flowed into Gaza.
  • Access Issues:
  • The bottleneck in aid delivery is identified as a political issue rather than a logistical one. Elder emphasizes the need for Israel to facilitate aid access.
  1. Political Dynamics
  2. Israel's government has rejected claims of responsibility for the humanitarian crisis, attributing issues to Hamas.
  3. Netanyahu's Statement: Claims that Hamas hoards aid for war efforts, shifting the blame away from Israeli restrictions.
  • Elder's Response:
  • He argues that evidence does not support Israel's claims of aid diversion by Hamas.
  • He highlights that the lack of evidence backing Israeli claims is crucial in understanding the aid crisis.
  1. Potential for Change
  2. If peace negotiations succeed and aid begins to flow, Elder believes there will be a significant positive impact on the lives of Palestinians.
  3. He notes the strong educational foundation within Gaza, which could help the population rebuild if given the chance.

Conclusion The episode highlights a critical moment for Gaza amidst fragile peace negotiations, underscoring the urgent need for humanitarian aid and the political complexities that impede its delivery. The insights from James Elder provide a stark view of the challenges faced by Gazans, emphasizing that hope alone is not enough without tangible support and aid.

Additional Information

  • Producers: Michael Levitt
  • Editor: Sarah Robbins
  • Executive Producer: Sami Yenigun

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0:28Will peace finally come? hoping for an end to the war. You know, just when I'm thinking about it, it makes me like shiver because, you know, we want it so bad and let's hope it will happen. Those feelings of hope can be heard also in Gaza. MPR's reporter there, Anas Baba, spoke with Iman Abu Akalain. She's a 48-year-old mother of four. She was buying canned food for her family and Baba said she was very skinny. She said the news of a deal has brought some relief.

1:01It's like we've been living in a pressure cooker, and we can take a small breath, after all this fear we live with each night. But even as hope takes hold, humanitarian organizations warn that hope is all that many Gazans have, and that aid is needed now. Consider this. This seems to be a pivotal moment for diplomacy, but more than a million Gazans are in desperate need of medicine and food. When will Israel allow enough aid in?

1:31For NPR, I'm Andrew Limbong.

1:42It's Consider This from NPR. After nearly two years of unrelenting war, the end just might be within reach. However, the peace process is fragile. And for Palestinians in Gaza, any stall or breakdown of negotiations could cost them their lives, says UNICEF spokesperson James Elder, who spoke to me over the weekend from Gaza, where war continues. And I was in a hospital on Saturday, and there I am again in ICU looking at a little 10-year-old girl, someone who has got horrific wounds to her face from shrapnel because she was getting water when there was an airstrike as she was, you know, queuing to get water.

2:19Despite constant pressure from UNICEF and other humanitarian organizations to expand access to aid, last August, a report from a UN-backed panel from the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, or IPC, declared that famine had reached Gaza. I asked James Elder if that declaration had any meaningful difference on the flow of aid in the month since. No, that didn't come. That never came. And it wasn't just the food, it's the medicine. You hear a child having had an amputation, you hear those screams because painkillers have not been allowed in. Incubators. I just was at a hospital two days ago, Andrew, and you're talking about three premature babies on a bed sharing oxygen.

3:03I'm seeing mums and brand new babies, newborns in hospital corridors in what were world-class hospitals because there's a lack of incubators now. And what possible reason is there to deny incubators? So no, a meaningful level of humanitarian aid has never flowed, particularly after the famine declaration. You know, several aid organizations have said that the crisis of starvation could be resolved quickly, right? That it's not logistical issues or a lack of capacity. It's all about access. What do you need to happen to be able to serve the children and families you're trying to reach? Yeah, it is about access, exactly.

3:40It's not a logistical problem. The logistical problem is where you're hundreds and hundreds of miles away from the support you need. Here it's five miles. There is a border, you know, and on the other side is a thousand trucks. So what we need is the Israeli officials to, A, lift humanitarian aid flow. And then once it gets into Gaza, it's not just getting into Gaza. Legally, they have a responsibility to facilitate that. What that means is opening up multiple routes, not denying aid for two months, and then giving us one route to go down and then creating the systems for aid to be looted and then blaming aid workers for that.

4:11So again, yes, these are not logistical problems. These are political decisions made and there's lives at the end of every one of these. Israel has rejected the claim that it's responsible for conditions of famine and starvation seen in Gaza. Prime Minister Netanyahu's office called the IPC report an outright lie, and he also shifted the blame back on Hamas. Here's what the prime minister said at the UN General Assembly last month. If there are Gazans who don't have enough food, it's because Hamas is stealing it. Hamas steals it, hoards it, and sells it at exorbitant prices to fight its war machine.

4:47You've been on the ground. Who bears responsibility for the fact that critical food supplies are not reaching people? Israel. I'm sorry. There's two parts to this. One is that senior American officials starting under the Biden administration going all the way through today have made it very clear that at no point were they given evidence of systematic, meaningful aid diversion. So we face statements time and again without evidence designed to discredit tried and tested aid systems to justify controlling and weaponizing aid and displacing a population. So this is not suppositions. The evidence is very, very clear on the ground in terms of where those denials have come from.

5:27Will the political developments between the U.S., Israel, and Hamas this weekend make an immediate difference for the people you and your partners are seeing every day? Oh, there is no doubt. This is so quick. If the bombs fall silent and humanitarian aid flows, absolutely. And there's a couple of reasons for that. One is, of course, because that will be the first time in a long time that parents can promise their children at nighttime at a tent that they will go to bed and wake up next day. And the other is, and it's not a cliche, There is an ability of Palestinians to bounce back, and that's based on something concrete.

5:59That's based on a foundation of education. This is one of the highest literacy rates in the region. It's based on engineers and doctors and computer scientists and nurses and mums and dads. So there is an education system here that's been the backbone and the pride and joy of Palestinians. As long as Palestinians are given a chance now, and of course, given the support that they will need. Yeah, hope is even stronger right now because it is literally all they've got. That is UNICEF's James Elder speaking with us from Gaza. James, thank you so much for the time. Pleasure, Andrew. Pleasure. This episode was produced by Michael Levitt.

6:37It was edited by Sarah Robbins. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider This from NPR. I'm Andrew Limbong.

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As peace negotiations between Israel and Hamas made significant progress over the weekend, many in the region are expressing some cautious optimism about an end to the two-year war. 


NPR's Andrew Limbong speaks with James Elder, a UNICEF spokesman, about what he is seeing in Gaza now and the urgent need for food and medical supplies. 

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