Incel Horror Story | CreepCast

33:18Allie, you're not doing anything right now, are you? Um, no. Nothing. I can't wait until tomorrow, I guess. Good. Could you please drive me to see my doctor? I probably should have gone yesterday, but I just couldn't get away. This pain is just killing me right now, and I don't think I can drive myself. I barely made it here this morning, and I don't think I can even push the gas pedal right now. We could take my car if you want. Yeah, that's fine, James. I don't have a problem taking you. Turning to Jack, she said her goodbye. See you tomorrow Jackie She gave him a nickname see She does like me She put on her coat and slowly followed James as he struggled down the hallway She gave a half turn and a shrug In Jack's direction with a little Smile as she walked away Jack felt even lonelier than normal When she was gone I mean I just did you just picture Like that musical scene in the movie where it's like She walks away, camera focuses on him I'm imagining him very much as Did you watch Begonia?

34:27Jesse Plemons character in that Can you imagine being that kind of guy? Yeah Alright so Ally is working for a secret government That's going to destroy humanity Maybe not that detailed She's my lover but at the same time She's going to kill humanity That would be a crazy twist it was 10 minutes later that they all heard the crash it oh oh it was preceded by the loud horn of an 18-wheeler there it is uh waiting for that yeah that's it all right i knew i'm just like it's gonna it's gonna put the foot on the gas literally at some point it was now that you moved the office plant james is dead i love it was now we can have ali all to us i love i read that line again it was preceded by the loud horn of an 18 wheeler and screeching brakes so ali ali was just like a fucking i don't know like a like a buick pulling out.

35:41It's like fucking insane. Sure, Allie will be traumatized for life now, but she needs a shoulder to cry on. She's dead! No, no, this killed James. Oh, you think so? No, yeah, yeah. Oh, is it going to be... He's out of the picture now. No, no, he's going to have to tend to her. That's what I'm saying, yeah. She'll need a shoulder to cry on. Don't worry, baby bud. You will fly again. I can bring her back to life. Why would it be important that James died though? Was it assuming that he was moving in on his office girl? It could be two things. It could be because it says James always preferred Allie to the others.

36:16So James is dead now. So don't worry about that competition. Or like you said, he can like baby bird her back to health. So this is an incel horror story. If that is the direction it's going, excellently set up. because those are the vibes we got immediately. I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor, Warby Parker. Buying glasses doesn't have to be so complicated, but sadly, a lot of the times it is. It's hard to tell if the glasses are going to fit your face, and it can be hard to know if you're even being charged a fair price. Thankfully, today's sponsor, Warby Parker, is here to help.

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38:06That's right, buy one prescription pair, get another at 20 % off. Again, that's the link in the description at warbyparker.com slash creepcast. Get in on their offer today. Thank you to Warby Parker for sponsoring the show. Their link will be in the description and we are now back to the episode. The collision itself was a sickening thud of two large metal objects colliding. Even on the way it's phrased makes it imply he was also in a tractor trailer. Like that's his daily driver. Even on the seventh floor, it was loud. The office workers gasped and ran to the windows. Is that James Carr? Someone asked.

38:46Hard to tell from up here. It's so banged up. The horrifying implication of what just happened came to Jack immediately. No, no, no, no. This can't be true. Shaking all the way, he ran to the elevator and went to the ground floor along with several others from the office. Some of them were crying. As they joined the growing crowd around the scene of the accident, Jack could hear the far-off sound of emergency sirens. Looking past the gawkers, he could see that the 18-wheeler had hit James' car's broadside. its driver had been thrown out onto the pavement where he lay motionless James was sitting in the passenger seat of the car that should be where she lay motionless right?

39:29because the driver was Allie I think it's talking about the driver of the diesel oh yeah yeah yeah James was sitting in the passenger seat of his car motionless but with a surprised look on his bloody face Jack couldn't tell if he was alive or dead the driver's side where Allie was seated had taken the hit the space she'd been occupying had been compacted to a third of its original size Allie's okay maybe maybe this is a different direction Allie's head was smashed open and her twisted body was broken and battered all right completely wrong and I told you I was so wrong no you you were saying that I said she was dead she's dead oh yeah you're right on that one But not the baby bird thing.

40:18She's dead. Well, Isaiah, what if he's going to try to resurrect her? That'd be a twist. I'm saying that all of a sudden, if some kind of Native American or old man, I think that this might go Pet Sematary route. Because remember, a big rig hit the tiny baby, and then the dad freaked out and took the baby to the Pet Sematary. Right, yeah. Yeah, whatever. But I'm just saying, there might be something there. of like we can bring her back though whatever but you have to do this and they have to keep continuously doing horrible shit whatever to bring her back we'll see Allie's head was smashed open and her twisted body was broken and battered the crowd was stunned tears, screams, sirens that was all Jack could hear now going back inside the building Jack ran to his car and drove home angry and sad okay so I understand it's because he feels responsible but imagine this is what you do you just watched you're watching somebody's head split open like a fucking crushed water you do this you do

41:31not going to help not going to do anything you're driving home he's like screw this You go fill up gas on the way home. You're at the pump, tapping your foot.

41:50I gotta go inside for my receipt. Please see cashier. This is the worst. I am angry and I am sad, sir. He made the journey home and to his computer. There the machine sat. He wanted to turn it on, but was afraid of what he'd find out. Was he really the one responsible for Allie's death? The whole chain of events had started with him. He knew he was to blame. Jack reached for the power button and then pulled his hand back. Finally, after several minutes, he found the mental strength to turn it on. The screen flickered and then went black and the familiar text started appearing on the screen. No, Jack.

42:34It's not your fault. I know you're blaming yourself but all people die eventually

42:44well when you put it that way whether being hit by an 18 wheeler or dying of old age you gotta go it's like what so she gets a family becomes a grandmother passes in her sleep at 85 semi truck now those are equal those are the same thing D-A-D dead. But all people die eventually. Some just sooner than others. Jack stared at the screen. He resisted the urge to throw the monitor to the ground. After a moment, the writing continued. Jack, I'm going to tell you something, and I really need you to seriously consider everything I'm about to say. Oh my god. You thought you were in love with Allie. The truth is, you just wanted to fuck her.

43:35Oh yeah, we're in 2015 Creepypots We're in 2015 Creepypots Thomas O writing this like this

43:47You just wanted to fuck her And please excuse my language But every once in a great while It's best to be blunt Jack said she wasn't the one for you She would have made your life miserable Yes, you would have eventually found the courage to ask her out. She actually was interested in you. Way to dig the knife in deeper. She actually was. You could have dated her.

44:13She actually was interested in you. She thought you'd make a good project. This is incel. This is him, yeah. This is so incel-coded. This is she breaks up with him later. He's like, I'm going to go back in time and kill her. Sad, really, for her. Not for you. I want you to think back to all the things she told you. Why did her last boyfriend break up with her? Because she cheated on him. Jack mumbled under his breath. Because she cheated on him Jack. The same thing she would have done to you. Bro. This is actually great. This might actually be the most incel thing we've ever read. This is fucking crazy.

44:54But it laid all of the minds perfectly. It was tripping every radar Yeah She would have made you happy for about Two months And then miserable for the next four years Dude You gotta kill her So that makes it justifiable That she was hit by an 18 wheeler That makes it justifiable that No contract, no bar You killed her Wow Sneaking around, laughing at you behind your back spending all your money. Once you finally got rid of her, you would have been so jaded that you'd never date again. This is true, Jack. I see all future possibilities. The ones that come to pass and the ones that don't. You've seen how she really is, Jack, but you let your lust for her blind you to the truth.

45:46Together, you and I have made sure you avoided that path. One more thing, Jack. Jack, this isn't done playing out yet. There's more to come. No! Fuck you! You killed her! Jack screamed and threw the monitor from the desk, landed on the floor and sparked out. Jack got barely any sleep that night, and the next day he wasn't sure he wanted to go to work, but the last words he'd been told had piqued his curiosity, and his anger had somewhat subsided. No work was done that day at the office. The company brought in grief counselors, people shared their thoughts cried they hugged James had actually survived the accident but was in a coma the doctors thought he might recover eventually but nobody was really sure late in the afternoon Jack was approached by Diego Salbarra that's a crazy name that's a great fucking name Diego Salbarra that sounds like what's her name the Salamanca's off Breaking Bad The head of the division Diego was blunt and up front And he offered James' position to Jack Hey, so your boss is in a coma And that girl died So that makes you head of the company now You know how you don't talk to anybody And everyone thinks that you're pretty competent You want the head role of the company?

47:08You want the boss of everyone? Oh, sure I killed Allie, but promotion My computer killed Allie, but promotion I get a rage So I have to admit something What was that? I moved a potted plant. Okay. No, you don't understand. Actually, never mind. The promotion doesn't go to you. You did that? We fired like half the janitorial staff over that. Technically, it would be a temporary promotion, but James wouldn't be back anytime soon. Diego promised him that the promotion would be made permanent once enough time had passed. Let's keep this on the low key for now. Diego told him. I know it might seem quick, but the Lancaster project James was working on can't be stopped.

47:50It's too important to the company. I need someone in charge right away, and this can't wait." Stunned, Jack accepted the promotion. He left work with a strange mixture of feelings, not really sure how he felt about anything. On his way home, he stopped at the electronics store and bought a new monitor. He made it home and powered up the computer. Once again, the writing came on screen. Jack, I want to be the first one to congratulate you. I'm proud of what you accomplished. Jack stared at the screen. Jack, I have to ask for your forgiveness because I haven't introduced myself yet. I'm called the Seer.

48:29Like I told you before, I see what will be and I see what can be. It's a very powerful gift I have. But you know what, Jack? For all my power, I still can't do anything corporeal. I can't predict, I can't see And with enough effort, I can't even communicate But I don't have a body That's something that was taken from me a long, long time ago That's why I need you, Jack I'm an artist of sorts An artist of human manipulation Dying of cringe, a slow death You'll be my paintbrush and my canvas I want you to work with me, Jack It's all very simple. Just perform simple tasks for me from time to time.

49:14Jack was becoming more and more curious. And Jack, before you give me an answer, I want you to know a couple of things. First off, I'll never lie to you. Secondly, I'll never ask you to do anything which, taken by itself, is wrong or legal. Taken by itself. Yes, bad things will result. And sometimes people will die. That's quite a big bud. But they're going to die eventually anyway. Oh, I forgot about that. They're going to die anyway, yeah. And the bad will always be balanced out by something good happening to you. You can kill as many people as you want, but hey, you'll have a good time.

49:53So, quick thought.

50:01100 % this is a teenager writing the story at the time who had some dark thoughts or urges and played it out to basically throwing throwing that author right under the bus am i wrong i mean as well i think i that's certainly the vibe the story gives but i think that's the point i think this is supposed to be like a manipulative like uh wicked person who just sees like the self or individual thoughts rather than people around so are you are you under the impression that this is like that he is hallucinating this interaction he's having with the computer no i mean i think it's i think it's a bit cooler if it's himself somehow but i think that in my mind the seer is almost like a 4chan like your stereotypical like basement dweller hunched over a computer with like a cloak on like i am the seer or whatever uh but if it's like a spirit some corporeal form it's one of just selfishness like giving him what he wants in the long run without concern for what it does to other people it seems like this thing is also going to manipulate jack into hosting it as like its bot like jack is going to be effectively yeah yeah yeah because right now it's playing out like that movie the box or something it's like that movie that was uh it's it's like oh if you press this button oh the gift is that what it's called I think it's called a gift.

51:15Okay. Yeah. You press this button, someone on earth will die. And it's like, you get this big thing, but somebody, a bad thing will happen. Yeah. Which in itself can't, I think there are ways to do it, but it's a fucking, this is a slippery slope. It's hard to make this thing seem cool. I don't think the story is trying to make it seem cool. No, sorry. As a read, like the concept of the thing being like, Oh, this is interesting. Yes. Interesting. Narrative perspective. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think considering they kicked it off with move a potted plant and a woman dies, I think that's kind of like this thing can see a lot of future stuff.

51:51So I think it's an interesting premise there. And I think given that's a horror story, I think it's explicit that this thing is supposed to be manipulative and bad. Well, it's definitely targeting someone who, if it is trying to be this intentional with the incel vibes, that it is someone who is... A loser. Yeah, or like desperate, in a desperate attempt to like want to get ahead, all that kind of stuff. The kind of person who, to your metaphor, would have pushed the button. Yeah, yes, yeah, 100%. Well, that's the only reason why it makes an interesting story. Yeah. And I think that from here on out, too, this is where it's really going to, does it win us over with, like, why does he say yes to these things?

52:27What are the repercussions? And also, like, what of his character, like, becomes, like, what are the changes that happens to his characters that make this more interesting? Right. Because if he just continues, if he just keeps fucking moving potted plants and people die and he's just like oh my god i got a bonus at work that's gonna be god this potted plant is really powerful jack winced at this last idea but he fought the urge to turn the computer off the seer was right everyone would die eventually why not let something good come of it and this is and here's another thing the reason i said teenagers because Is that not the most juvenile?

53:08Yeah, it is, but I think that's the point again. Do you think so? Yeah, I think the point's to be like, he has a juvenile frame of thought because he's selfish. I think, I understand what you're saying. I just think that the phrasing or the wording of it feels like it's coming from a very... I mean, this was probably a young author, you know, writing like a story. Which whatever, it's fine, but I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. I think it's very... A teenager being like, well, people are going to die anyways. I guess I'm just so used to these early horror stories being that way, with being very like...

53:42Oh, that's true. He felt a feeling. That's true. A feeling he felt. And you have a... I mean, by this point, too, I have... Yeah, you're in the trenches with me. But I just mean, reading it as a younger... Like, if I read this when I was younger, I'd probably be like, oh, that's a good point. You know? Like, people, I guess, aren't going to die, so why not benefit from it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And what about never lying to him? If he'd known at the time that Allie was going to die, he'd have never gone through with the original favor. But as he thought more about it, he realized the seer hadn't lied to him and only withheld information.

54:14Still, Jack wondered if he could trust the seer. Work with me, Jack. Together we'll make incredible things happen. I'm just asking you to perform little tasks from time to time. Oh, but these little tasks will have great consequences. They're going to be beautiful, Jack, and they'll always end with a reward for you. That's the beauty of my art. One single task produces something bad and something good. Oh, one last thing, Jack. You gotta stop saying one last thing or whatever. I can see you're having trouble with this. If I stopped talking to you right now, it would take you about two weeks to decide to join me.

54:47But you know what, Jack? You would join me. That's right. You're going to say yes. So instead of waiting, why don't you just say yes to me now? Let's get started, Jack. And when it's all over, you're going to thank me. I promise you. jack considered what the seer had just said his initial feeling of revolt slowly fading he paused and then for the first time placed his fingers on the keyboard and responded directly to the seer what do you want me to do next yeah you want you want something out of it and if he he's been the loser for so long so he deserves to win and blah blah blah so i think i think kind of the incel loser vibe is what the story's trying to maybe it'll be a thing where the next day it already you know maybe it's a blow up in his face immediately the next day no because the next line is as years passed my my my god he's been killing people years decades okay all right as years passed jack did every favor the seer asked of him and as the seer had promised jack was rewarded for his actions each time the rewards often came in unexpected and interesting ways One of the more memorable experiences for Jack happened about two years after he first agreed to help the seer.

56:03Jack, I need you to go downtown tomorrow. The seer requested. Enter Garmin's Liquor at exactly 12.37 p.m. A man will ask you a question. The answer you're going to give him is 27. As always, the seer's instructions were simple and direct, yet mysterious. The next day, as requested, Jack entered the store. In front of him, Burley construction worker was at the counter filling out a lottery ticket. Let's see here, said the construction worker. My birthday, that's the 15th. My wife's birthday, that's the 24th. And my kid's age is 2, 10, and 13. The man scratched his head and looked around, zeroing in on Jack.

56:43Hey, buddy, I need another number. You got one for me? Jack smiled. 27. Really? I was thinking about playing 35 but you know what I like your face let's go with 27 this is like a Christopher Moltisanti yeah with that the man completed his slip and paid for his lottery ticket see ya pal he said happily and he patted Jack on the shoulder on his way out the door Jack tried not to put any more thought into what would happen to this man just let these things play out Jack you'll never guess how things end up so just let yourself be surprised the seer had advised him still it was impossible not to wonder about these things from time to time he knew considering the way the seer worked there was no way possible that he'd actually help this man but giving him a losing lottery number that was too simple for the seer and he couldn't imagine he'd actually given him a winning number so that's how jack was surprised two weeks later he ran into the same man again this time at the grocery store.

57:51Hey buddy, it's you! I remember you! Check it out, I won! Indeed, the man looked like a million dollars. Wearing new clothes, a new gold watch, and a big goofy smile. The man walked right up to Jack. I didn't think I'd ever see you again, but I'm glad you're here. I could have never won without you. Hey, let me buy these groceries for you. No, wait, that's not good enough for you. You're my good luck charm. Always gotta treat people right, that's what my mom says. Reaching into his pocket, the man removed his checkbook and promptly wrote Jack a check for$10 ,000. It's the least I can do for my good luck charm.

58:24After thanking the man and feeling a bit confused by the whole thing, Jack raced home to his computer. After turning it on, Sears' writing appeared on the screen. Well, Jack, how does it feel to be$10 ,000 richer? It feels good, but I can't help but wonder, I can't help but wonder, we've never helped anyone before. Why are we starting now? Jack asked that question with a tinge of guilt. Never liked to admit people were being hurt by his actions. Oh, fuck off, Jack. Well, he didn't like to admit it. Doesn't mean he wouldn't do it. But in this case, his curiosity overwhelmed any latent feelings of guilt.

59:01Oh, Jack, we haven't helped anyone. Yes, that man is happy now. People have lost every last penny within two years. You saw it yourself. He just gives money away. old friends lost relatives they're all going to come asking for money there will always be some very bad investments as well the stress of losing everything is going to cause his wife to leave him she'll take the kids too he'll be alone and broke a ruined man who would have never who would have been much better off he'd never won you didn't you needn't feel bad jack it's the man's own stupidity and greed that will do this to him so why didn't uh i don't know you just give me the numbers myself and maybe i go buy a lottery ticket jack that would be too silly yeah but then i would have stinky and poopy but then i would have more money and this guy wouldn't have to be involved at all but still how deliciously evil is it's going to take two years for this guy to make bad like instead of ten thousand dollars i could have just got like the millions the guy won well jack that's funny you should say that but see it's so deliciously evil what i'm doing see so that's kind of the hank up here like i understand hurting people sometimes like killing ali so i don't get relationship i was all down for that go to the store if i could have just made a lot of money jack it's easier even go to the juice aisle get a thing of apple juice and tell the old woman see you next tuesday and then we'll wait a week and see what happens well okay so that i don't even know where that one comes around because if it's to benefit me i think threatening an old woman isn't going to do anything for any of us as a matter of fact that's almost certainly a bad $10 ,000 is nice, but is it enough to be like, also, you ruined this man's life?

1:00:39It's$10 ,000 to ruin a man's life forever. Also, we don't even know. And again, he could have just bought the lottery ticket. You could have just given him the numbers. It's like if the whole goal is to win money. Also, he's had this moral conundrum years later. I was all good with killing people, but this guy's getting the worst. How many people do you think have died? his moral conundrum by the way was that they're helping someone for the first time yeah not even yeah like why'd we help that guy that's kind of strange it was easier when they just die this doesn't make any sense jack felt some regret but the seer's rationalization and focusing on his own reward always put him at peace in the end through the years no two tasks were ever alike Sometimes the effects of his actions were direct and easy to see.

1:01:29Other times they caused a chain reaction so complex that he simply could not follow it. Go to the county administrator's building. Park in space number 43 at 4.47 p.m. Came one such request. Jack did so. Two months later, he met Donna, with whom he fell in love and ended up marrying. He wouldn't have even known the two events were even related if he hadn't asked to see her about it. Jack, when you parked in that space, you caused the person who would have parked there to park in a different spot. But she bumped the car next to her. She barely made a scratch. But she called her insurance agent.

1:02:02Anyway, causing him to leave the office late. He missed the train home. And while waiting for the train, he was mugged and stabbed. He'll never fully recover. The muggers took his credit cards and used them. And Jack, I could keep going with this. But there's another 23 people involved. There's a lot of other people getting stabbed You won't believe it, another car crash Sometimes these favors are going to be Very complicated, but let's just say Your action ultimately caused Donna to be In the exact right place for you to meet her Well, I mean she is Kind of hot, so Thank you for that Mr. C.M.

1:02:38I liked my wife My wife's pretty hot Hey Donna, you wouldn't believe this, but the guy that your entrance agent He got stabbed and 23 other people Got by other people. So if I found out right now through no action of my own, it's like, yeah, the only reason me and my wife are together is because some guy got stabbed. I'd be like, oh, that sucks. But if back then someone's like, hey, you want to marry that girl? That guy's got to get stabbed. I think that the conundrum here is that if you found out about this stuff, would you just think that the whole thing was like a lie? Like it wasn't even really a choice to be with you.

1:03:15I mean, in a realm where I have a supernatural entity approach me and give me this information. I'm saying in this context.

1:03:24If you found out about it, I mean, like one, you obviously love her and she does love you. That's not fake. But it's just the idea that's like... It's like... the course of her life was permanently altered because of this seer. that's that's inevitably what if i had no knowledge of it and did nothing to provoke it then it's like hey fate's got a funny way of finding each other or whatever but i think it's the putting action to it and knowing people will get hurt that makes the difference yeah which does make the concept of the story more interesting is that if you if you're able to basically make a deal with if like the devil in this case is fate and you're changing other people's fates to benefit your own it's pretty fucked up and like that's that's kind of a cool horrific concept of like no one has any kind of tangible option.

1:04:07I'll win. I'll be the one who wins. Yeah, exactly. Everyone is like in your playground, basically. They're being forced to play with you kind of thing is pretty fucked up. And I think here maybe the seer, especially if it's non-corporeal, you could say that the seer is like maybe a spirit of discourse or something or like kind of ancient depictions of demons, how they want people to do evil against each other and stuff. So the seer's winning by causing mischief and things to go wrong on earth. Yeah. so that could be what he gets out of it and he targeted the one person who's totally fine with it i still don't think it's been fully unraveled to why he's no i don't think so either yeah not yet to me this is going to be one of those things where it's like well you see i had to wait years because of blah blah blah yeah yeah yeah which honestly after talking about it and reading some of it these are cool i just think the way that the the way in which the seer is talking is pretty cringe so it's kind of taking away from the kind of concept of it like the idea is cool it's getting there but yeah just that kind of i respect that yeah yeah jack's relationship with the seer grew through remaining mostly mysterious the seer divulged enough information over time so that jack could get a generalized understanding of the seer's history from historical references jack knew the seer was thousands of years old when still alive the seer had been a powerful fortune teller, an artist who foretold future happenings through paintings.

1:05:33Foolish King, who misinterpreted the seer's prediction and lost a battle as a result, had the seer executed. Unencumbered by physical senses and existing in a lonesome void, the seer's abilities expanded exponentially. Finally learning to communicate with the living, the seer began reaching out to those who would respond, including Jack. And of course, the seer knew everything about Jack. In all, it was as much of a friendship as one can have with a dead person, and Jack was grateful to the seer too. He had a nice job, a nice house, a beautiful wife. People respected him. He was happy, which is something he never really felt before the seer contacted him.

1:06:18Twelve years in total passed. Wow. Twelve good years for Jack. Task after task was completed, usually about one every month. Jack, sitting in the office of his large rural house, was contacted by the seer once again. Hi Jack, I have a favor to ask of you. This one's the easiest yet. You don't even have to get up. Call Riago's Pizza in exactly two minutes, let the phone ring three times, then you can hang up. Jack smiled, nice and easy. No longer wondered about how these tasks would play out. He trusted the seer and simply did as he was told. Jack made the call exactly two minutes later. The quietness of the house was broken 30 minutes later by the ringing doorbell.

1:07:04That's odd, Jack thought. Neither he nor Donna were expecting anyone. Jack looked out at the peephole and saw a pizza delivery of the boy. Logo on his cap said, Riacho's Pizza. Jack opened the door. Here's your pizza, said the boy as he thrust it into Jack's hand. But I didn't order this. Look, I don't give a damn if you ordered or not. Mr. Riage told me to take it here, so that's what I'm doing. Delivery boy argued as he looked increasingly annoyed and spat in the bushes. Jack looked at the boy in front of him. He looked to be about 17 years old. But the most noticeable thing about him was his size.

1:07:44He was huge. Probably about six and a half feet tall. Very muscular. It's already paid for by credit card. Just take it because I'm not driving it back. Boy put out his hand for a tip. I don't have any cash on me. Whatever. Came the disgusted reply. Boy looked past Jack into the house, then turned and walked slowly to his waiting car, looking over his shoulder as he walked. Jack closed the door and took the pizza to the living room where Donna was watching TV. After explaining what had happened, he excused himself to go to his office, promising to return shortly. Donna opened the pizza and took a piece Come back soon, sweetie This pizza's got your favorite toppings on it Donna gerald as she took a bite Arriving at his computer Sears' words appeared on the screen Confused, Jack?

1:08:34Don't be Your neighbor down the road ordered the pizza Mr. Riagio told that boy the correct address But a ringing phone made it difficult for him to be heard clearly Still give the boy credit He got the street right at least So my reward is a pizza? Yes, Jack, your reward is a pizza and also the chance to spend a little time with your wife. Go down there, share the pizza, enjoy it. When you're done, make love to Donna. That's not one of your tasks. That's just some advice I think you should follow. Oh, by the way, your neighbors who ordered the pizza are arguing right now over the silly fact that the pizza didn't arrive.

1:09:13Some of the things people argue over amaze me. They really do. The fight is going to get very heated. but you don't need to worry about that. Go enjoy your night. They're going to kill each other in a domestic dispute. Make love to Donna. But he gets to hook up with his wife. Slow, sensual. He goes back to Fury's like, look, all for that. All for the pointer wingman means a lot. Can I scale the severity of the reward versus the come out? Do me very, if I was - I don't know if my neighbor being murdered is worth some pizza and a hookup with my wife. If I was an omnipotent being, I probably would get satisfaction out of very little things like that.

1:09:55Yeah, especially something as bitter as him. Yeah. I don't think that it's even going to be that people are going to get murdered. I think it's just like a heated argument of just being like, you fucking idiot. Ba-ba-ba should have happened. I don't know where it says that line about it's going to get very heated, but don't worry about it. That almost implies a menace to like something could happen. but from someone as vengeful as the spirit, it's not even so much Jack getting something good as much as it is something bad happening to someone else. Jack followed the seer's advice, cuddled with Donna as they enjoyed their meal, then made love to her on their big, comfortable living room couch.

1:10:34Yeah, brother. There you go. Big, comfortable couch. Donna fell asleep on the couch shortly after 11 p.m. Jack lay there awake. This latest favor just felt odd. Carefully extracting his arm from under Donna, Jack left the living room and headed upstairs. Sitting down at the computer, Jack typed, Are you there? Yes, Jack. I'm actually always here. I've been waiting for you to come back. That pizza delivery boy, he's quite a specimen, isn't he? So, what do you mean by that? It's here. Make love to the pizza boy, Jack. I don't want to do that, Jack. I need you. Jack, do as I command Not to just make every one of these episodes I'm a cuck, Jack An omnipotent cuck Not to make all of these just references to previous episodes But the Seer's Mr.

1:11:26Widemouth You have to give in You have to give in, Jack Just do it, Jack Jack looked quizzically at the screen The Seer continued He's a horrible employee He was hired only three days ago And already Mr. Riagio wants to fire him but as a physical specimen he's strong fast and very observant for example he knows that you didn't lock the front door after you delivered your pizza what door just kicks in downstairs what i think it might be well i think it mentioned him being tall and he kept looking in the room behind him probably saw nice stuff or whatever and they didn't tip him he's like i'm gonna come back and fucking mug this place yeah jack said aloud as he started to get up sit down jack i I need to tell you something important.

1:12:09And locking the door now won't change your situation. It's too late, Jack. It's happening. Jack slowly took his seat again at the computer, looking behind himself as he did so. You see, Jack, it's true that I never lied to you. Everything I've ever told you is 100 % honest. But yes, I've withheld certain facts. You see, I told you that every task causes something bad to happen to someone else and something good to happen to you. But there's a third thing. there's the ultimate goal that each task was working toward remember Allie of course you do what you probably don't remember about her is that she was helping to pay her brother's way through college and when she died he had to drop out he was going to be a great psychologist but now he works in a factory instead that's really too bad for our pizza delivery boy he could have used a good therapist a few years ago but that good therapist wasn't there for him instead he got some Freudian quack and remember our lottery winner?

1:13:05Yes, you do. He was a neighbor to our pizza boy. After he lost all of his money, of course, he beat the boy senseless after the boy jumped into the street in front of his car. Quite a traumatic memory for a young lad. He's been building like the Hulk to come back and kill him.

1:13:27Just building a super soldier, traumatic super soldier just to beat the shit out of the tank. Captain America. My paintbrush and my canvas. And his mother didn't care about that incident. Didn't protect the boy at all. She could not after using all the drugs given to her by her boyfriend, who happened to be one of the muggers who robbed the insurance agent. He bought the drugs with the money he made for the robbery. Do you see the scope of my artistry? Jack's in his chair like... The devil is coming to kill me right now. Am I going to die? The ground starts shaking as he's getting closer. Every amount of childhood trauma this guy has, he's about to take out on Jack.

1:14:12Oh, my God. He's getting senseless. It's going to be brutal. Jack sat glaring at the monitor. He wanted to get up to check on Donna. He was too scared to move. The seer continued. Jack, you've done over 100 tasks for me, and each one served an ultimate purpose, to psychologically destroy this boy. Termin -

1:14:41He's psychologically destroyed this boy. They've been building Megatron for 12 years.

1:14:54The entire story. This is the angriest man you could imagine. For 12 years He has had 100 Supernatural things Done to make his life worse Just to ruin this tiny boy's life Just to kill Jack To psychologically destroy this boy Turn him into a monster And to bring him here tonight Don't you see Jack This involved tens of thousands This involved tens of thousands of people And billions of possibilities As the Texas Avenue, there's like fire and explosions out the office. If you had failed to complete even one of the tasks, the whole chain would have collapsed. This was orchestrated by me and set in motion by you.

1:15:42Together, we've done something wonderful. This is a masterpiece of human manipulation. Our masterpiece. It all begins and ends with you. Two perfect points in time. Tonight. Wrong address. No tip. This poor boy finally snapped. He's downstairs right now. he's slitting Donna's throat at this exact moment holy shit I love this this is so fun remember all those things you did all those people you hurt well I've been building God all for a genetically a genetically superior 17 year old boy to come in and slit your wife's throat which could have done with anybody this thing that he's I mean like he's big but it could have been like he's not just going to be like he's crushing your wife's throat with his bare hands as we speak.

1:16:28No, he just slit her throat. Yeah, but I mean like all that psychological damage. I mean imagine if you were tortured by an ancient immortal seer for 12 years. I don't get me wrong. He's got some skeletons in his closet. In those 12 years, you know there's some crazy stuff happening. Like he's about to get admitted to college and like the college guy dies. Yeah. Loses your papers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like everything you can imagine. Yeah. 100 times. Yeah. You get beat up by a dude in the street because he scrambled his lottery money. Like, oh, geez. Not again. This is the ultimate payoff, too. This is like making like Michael Myers or like a Jason Voorhees.

1:17:13All because all because like you have his selfish fate. Fate has made it. So, yeah, because you didn't ask questions until now. Your selfish need to always get ahead whatever has crafted the ultimate monster which is just I guess a pretty stupid genetically angry strong child. It is a 100 part monkey's paw. Like every step of the wishing and like wanting more and more is like curled background. It's really funny that none of this would like literally if he just would have done it if he would have done not done one of those things, it would have stopped. Pretty funny. That would have stopped him from killing him in his life.

1:17:56Pretty funny. And the seer's just like, I just... Which goes back to what you said. An immortal being who has all the time in the world would do just evil stuff for the sake of evil stuff happening. This is the closest resemblance we've ever had to a demon, I think. I think so. I would agree with that. Like an actual, like, meddles with humanity to make bad things happen. Something actually from hell. Yeah, 100%. That has a scope of knowledge beyond any person possibly could be. But it's doing it just to make something bad happen to this one guy. Yeah. To trick him the whole way there. Yeah. Yeah.

1:18:28This is really cool. I'm super into it right now. Jack could hear a short, muffled scream coming from the living room, followed by a gurgling noise. No. No! Jack screamed and stood up, starting to run downstairs. Jack, stop! The voice startled Jack. It was inside his head. For the first time, the seer was talking to him directly. It was a pleasant voice. A feminine voice. You can't do anything. She's already gone. He'll be coming for you shortly, and you can't stop him. But why? Jack cried with tears welling up in his eyes. It's not an artistic masterpiece if it doesn't begin and end with you, Jack.

1:19:12Her voice was soothing. I want you to appreciate the fact that I'm talking to you directly. This requires all of my energy, and as a result, I've had to rest for several years before I can contact anyone again. That's how special you are to me. Please don't feel bad about this, Jack. I want you to take a moment and enjoy your accomplishment as much as I do. The voice paused briefly and then continued. Do you know what, Jack? If I'd never contacted you, you would have lived for 85 years. 85 boring, meaningless, and bitter years. and when you died, nobody would have been at your funeral. I gave you 12 great meaningful years.

1:19:51You were happy and together we did something beautiful, something unique. Jack paused a minute and considered his 12 years of happiness and his tears of sorrow mixed with tears of joy. Turned and looked at the computer. While behind him, the massive Hulk... This line is fucking awesome. Read this line. Tore straight through the doorway. the massive hulk of the the massive hulk of the demented delivery boy appeared in the doorway a bloody knife in his left hand on the screen the last words from the seer appeared don't you have something to say to me jack jack wiped his tears and absorbed everything the seer had just told him as the hulk started stepping closer to him jack said mouth his final words Thank you.

1:20:43That's hot. That's a fun payoff. I love that. That's fun. That's so fun. Listen, the idea of this story is pretty sick. I think for a thing written in 2015, by what I assume, maybe even not yet, it felt, why does it feel juvenile? I think it feels juvenile because one, here's a couple reasons I think of this. Well, first off, I want to say the idea of fate doing this and then like basically manipulating you and playing like a twisted game is fun. This whole kind of like it hits in certain ways because it's comical. It's so outrageous at certain points. The 18 wheeler crashing into her right away.

1:21:21The 18 wheeler loved it. Amazing. That was awesome. Need more of that in the future. But I think it's more of the idea that it's like I think that a lot of the sections were. Well, first off, you said Jack way too much. Sure. There's like little things in there that you could tell that this is like either a first writing or it's like a beginner writer, but it's like Jack, blah, blah, blah, blah, Jack says it a lot. But I think that every time that there was a description laid out, it was just kind of cheesy. Sure. Maybe. Right. I would say so. I'd say there was a lot of, uh, it's why I said earlier descriptors that I think was intended to be menacing, but kind of came off as like juvenile.

1:21:59Yeah. the the idea too which it's it's one of those things where it's like well first off let me ask you this did you like that it was talking to him through a computer or do you think that it would have been affected in a more effective in a different way i feel like the computer gives you an easy in in the beginning because you need jack to be freaked out but not impossible like if like a an old testament thing happened and a giant hand appeared on the wall and started writing that'd be a little too much right but like text on a screen is a level of believability that maybe he would do the first step uh and by the end it's talking directly to him so to me it's kind of like i don't really care that much you know it's not explicitly supernatural you know there's just enough deniability to it but you could also have like maybe it speaks to him through a radio or a tv or something like that i i was thinking during it would it have been cool well I was thinking during it and at the end it's like oh it finally talks to him and it's a woman and it is like I have to use all my energy and I'm not going to be able to talk to anybody for years because of that which is I guess fine it's just kind of like why or whatever it's like it's exposition to something where you're like okay it feels like it's tacked on but a couple things a couple thoughts one or go ahead on that I think what they were trying to do is imply that for thousands of years this has been doing it to people over and over and it sleeps for periods of time but i do agree that we don't really need that yeah it's also an omnipotent being yeah or whatever it just feels like you're adding rules to something that you're just like don't even i agree whatever that being said a couple things i was thinking whenever it ends up being a woman if you would have stuck with the incel vibe and it turned out that it was like a woman telling him doing to do stuff would have been a fun thing to where that's when he snapped he's just like what or he feels betrayed or something or instead of it being text i was thinking what if it was just his inner voice and it was like his it's like a voice is talking to in his head that sounds like himself and it's he's like i'm not thinking this it's like my voice is telling me to do shit and it feels like fate is now like almost like um it's like you're you're like impulse or something you know like i just wonder it never felt like the the computer screen thing ever had to pay off besides the fact that it was probably a creepypasta that people were reading on computers.

1:24:18And that was a thing where, oh, I wonder if I'm going to have a text on my screen. If you had that kind of. Yeah, I feel like I think the in the head could have worked if it was done well. But I also think I think it's relevant to the story that it is a secondary entity. And if it was in his head, he'd be able to write it off too much. It's like, are these my thoughts? Am I thinking this? Is it something in my subconscious? now if the thing in his head started to have actual dialogue with him i think that would have been fine well i think that that's what i mean is like there's always things of like um at least old cases of stuff of people doing crimes or something some horrible things they'll say like oh the devil told me to do it or an angel told me to do it if you took that kind of that kind of conversational piece and you're like oh it is like another entity like i'm being blessed and someone's like contacting me or something is there i just think that like it makes it something to where inevitably he can't escape this conversation, which is ultimately what happens.

1:25:15Yeah. Right. Which maybe it was, and you could have a thing where the fate that maybe like this omnipotent spirit or whatever is contacting people in different means. And it's like, it had to be the computer because that's exactly how the chess piece is supposed to move, which is what I think that they were saying. I just think it would like playing with that more. This story would be fucking like awesome. I think if you just had something that felt like you didn't make the conversation or the text thing as cheesy. And I think like building up who Jack, I still don't really know who the fuck Jack is.

1:25:48I really think the incel vibes we were getting from them. I think that could have been fun. I think leaning into a horrific character, incel character is cool. They are there. The idea is if you take a loser, someone who like kind of, I mean, it's not explicitly said that he has a problem with women, but that's, that vibe's kind of there. And he has a problem with everyone else. because he's not where he wants to be. So this entity saw that and knew this was the kind of person that would do a hundred things that were asked, even if it hurts other people. So it is because of that attitude he has where he wants to get ahead, again, kind of the school shooter thing, even if it's for the loss of others, it knew that this would work on him all the way to the end.

1:26:30So I think that tone is there and that's the reason he was targeted. I mean, I think I could agree with that. I think just flushing that character out more and giving us more. I think just as another incel that we've covered is the Spire in the Woods kid, whatever. And I think that - I will say that one I think is much more well done because of the writing style, the style, the story, and stuff like that. And I think that it just allowed us to be with the character more and stuff. Two very different kinds of stories. 100%. But that's also another reason why with this incel vibe, which I would say incels are like the biggest narcissist on earth, right?

1:27:08Of like people who are just like, they think so highly of themselves, everyone else is beneath them. I'm owed this by other people. I'm owed this, which is also why if you set up that kind of character and it is this inner monologue that's happening, it almost does feel like, oh, my guilty, my guilty kind of things are like, I'm doing this and like, it's all this master chess piece thing that I've been doing my whole life. And it's still like - Going back to the creepypasta thing, I feel like, especially 2015, that kind of story would not have gripped as many people as something coming through the computer i think part of that maybe i think part of that may be the marketing of the time sure making it and i think that like the idea of an entity i i love whenever stories do a thing that's like ghost or something is using technology as a way to contact somebody because i think that that's not explored nearly enough in a lot of stories it's like this paranormal world whereas before yeah there's ghost stories from people back in the day but now technology is used as like a gate to interact with people more now i think it's like a fun entity and i like that i even i even like the idea of it i i kind of like the creative swing that it took with like oh it was like it's over a thousand years old and it was like a seer from you know for a king back in the day almost like a fucking wizard yeah or something and now it's just been kind of like acting as a demon of sorts to people.

1:28:30I think it's like a fun take, which I think in a lot of ways it could have been like, that's just fucking stupid. And there might be a lot of people who do think it's stupid. I think it works. The idea of someone who was already connected with the supernatural dying and then going to that place. You have a thousand years of... Even the painting thing ties in where it's like, oh, he made a picture for a king. King misinterpreted, killed him for it. It's like they're still doing that. So it probably happened. The reason they were executed isn't because the king interpreted it wrong. it's because they manipulated it for the king to lose yeah and i do think uh i just want to point this out too this is the second creepypasta.com story that we've read that starts off and you're like what the hell is this and i wonder and it ends in a way that like is actually pretty fucking sick sandman is the story i'm referring to uh it makes me think like it's a lot of like just the setup and the pacing of it is it just because the times it's just like just get in whatever and it is a little more juvenile just from its initial approach but it seems like the people who are writing back then at least had a general idea of like a payoff or like the more it was more about the payoff than it was the hook which i'm wondering has been switched now people were concerned with getting in and getting out they didn't want that long of stories and you had to get an attention grabber because there were so many stories getting posted if you don't have like a platform to shout it out and like make people look at it it's like you got to catch them in the first three paragraphs i do think that it felt like it was a culture based off payoff though yeah it feels like payoff versus more stuff that we're reading now the hook is always like oh that's this is really cool but it does it doesn't know where to go you know with the bad ones even the good ones i would say have a good hook and then similarly they sizzle with it for a long time whereas yes back then it was very punchline punchline punchline yeah just kind of interesting two different i mean two now older stories over 10 years old that have had really cheesy laugh out loud moments but inevitably like the deeper we get into the story the more locked in we get because it actually becomes something that's pretty fucking interesting i think it's just kind of fascinating yeah because that does not happen nearly enough on the show you know if anything i would say that it's always the vice versa you're always really hooked and then by the the end you're like what the fuck are we doing you know which is and i think that's just from two different glasses huh no yeah yeah uh and i will say the the ultimate threat and the ultimate monster just being a genetically superior 17 year old boy is perfect is amazing it's a amazing indestructible pedophile exactly yeah if i would much rather have the mentally disturbed large 17 year old versus indestructible.

1:31:14Also I made a joke that they were sending the Hulk and twice it called him Hulk. Yeah that was weird. Yeah. For 12 years you've been building a super monster. Can you imagine what if his name tags had Bruce on it or something like a Bruce band? Oh fuck that would be insane. What does the kid look like to you? What's his facial features? I think he looks like the Dolph Lundgren from Rocky 4. Jesus. God he's beautiful. Wow. Giant chiseled jaw. I would imagine He's like every large Midwest, like whenever I was younger and like in high school and there was like the huge fucking, huge fucking high school football player kids, they're always like very potato esque where it's like less about discernible, like muscle features and more just like, they're just huge.

1:31:58Yeah. Doesn't mean they're like fat, but they're just like big bulky guys who are just like way bigger than any other kids. So of course they're just going to fucking dominate. Yeah. But yeah, I imagine buzz cut, acne on his face. It's like one of those things where the width of his temple goes straight down to his shoulder, so his neck is that wide too. And he's just this huge fucking thing. He's like peeking over. What the fuck? That's a nice face. Looks like it's fucking Chinese. Chinese vase back there. It's probably expensive. I'm going to go in and kill his wife and steal his Chinese vase.

1:32:32That's what I imagine was happening. That'll teach you to tip in hell. I'm like, I'm going to tell you not to give me a$2 tip. I'm going to murder someone. Yeah, because my cell phone's telling me to. For a pizza you didn't order. Yeah. I was just like, just take it. My boss said, just take it. Just be like, oh, I didn't order. It was just kind of funny. I'm going to kill that guy. I am going to fucking murder that man. You know, that was his final straw. For 100 years, people have lost papers. He hasn't got anywhere. He gets beat up by people on the road. There has been. this guy who didn't get a pizza didn't order a pizza doesn't tip that's it people have killed other people for less I'm gonna kill him you know what I was even thinking about too that's the most horrific part is that like it's 100 % believable some high school some high school person with a shitty upbringing whatever that's the thing that's just like makes them fucking snap and they do something crazy you know it's funny I interpreted that line from the seer earlier when the seer's like your neighbors are gonna get into a fight but you don't need to worry about it as they're going to die.

1:33:34You don't need to worry about it because it's really the pizza delivery boy you need to worry about. Yeah, that dude delivered the pizza? And if you look at it in this way, I don't know how you could write it in a way, but if you really did look at it in a way where the omnipotent being is, it's like a game to him. It's like at the end of every decision he's made, it's like Thanos in the end credits, the pizza boy. Yeah, exactly. Send this kid a birthday card. And just put lol on it. don't know what this does but yeah but that's our story today the uh the seer well the fucking the seer possibilities yeah would this have made a good live show story yeah oh yeah oh this would have been this would have been down as uh as almost we almost read this in the first live show oh i will say if you did that this one was a was it because it was too long a little bit but then And also I was, I think we ended up finding, well, we wanted to slate in like the really, like, I think that became Mr.

1:34:36Widemouth or something or laughing Jack. So that's why it got swapped out. It was a little too long. It did have multiple parts, but I, it just comes in so hot in the first act. I was like, we're going to love the car crash. Oh man. And then it slows down a little bit and it is kind of too long, but I, I had, this was like, it was one of the first, this could work as a live show. When I think, I think I am glad we did it here because I feel like talking over the, because when you're in the live show, there's kind of that little tonation of like, need to keep it up, need to keep spirit going. Us being able to kind of break more and talk about it I think served better from a story perspective, but from a comedy perspective, I think it would have worked well, especially with Megatron.

1:35:18I also wonder if we ever do live shows in the future, if we ever do live shows in the future, I'm wondering if we just go in less with the grab bag feel and more of just like, could you just sit there and read one story? Or is it just putting your bet too much on? I think the grab bag works better for live shows. You think so? Just because there's people there who want the really funny stuff, like the Mr. Wide Mouth. You get definitely a wider spectrum of stuff. Yeah, and the good stories and the kind of funny ones and stuff like that. I'll at least pose that question for people. Yeah, yeah. We've done it for a couple years now, which this year we're not going to be doing a live show, but in the future, because, I mean, of course we'll do one in the future again.

1:35:58The charity stuff has been awesome so far. But it's like, if we were going to do multiple shows, would it be cool if it's like, well, this date they did this show, or this story, this date they did this story. Would people be curious just to be like, it's one story, you get some riffs in, and you could like plan some other stuff in there, but it's like one piece of stuff. If we had like a spire in the woods, or not even that, like a thing in the basement caliber story, I think that'd be good for a live show. The only problem is always just the time. There's some people I could tell. I could fucking tell in the Chicago show.

1:36:27When it's like, we got one more. I saw some people do, like, fucking wrap this motherfucker up, you know? You know what? It's nice when I... Sorry you got what you paid for. For a live audience thing, I'm sure they're like, oh, shit. Because I know that the people who are listening at work, the live recording, or like when you're sitting at work, you're like, I want the longest time because this is my shift. But in person, yeah. But if it's in person, you're like, oh, my God, bro. It's getting late. You got to go. I got pushed back because of weather. Because the people in Chicago didn't even know that I had an encore story planned.

1:36:59Oh, yeah. We definitely did not get to that. Yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. There was supposed to be a fourth story at the Chicago live show. Which we're going to read this weekend. Are we going to read this weekend? We will read this weekend. What? Can I say what it was? It was Slenderman versus Jeff the Killer. It would have been so good. That was going to be our finale story. If you guys walked back out and you clicked the slide and it was that, people would be like, oh, my God. if you did a live show though and you did Slenderman vs. Jeff the Killer and we had actors there in costume performing some of the stuff can they actually fight each other please we put Nick and Harry in the costumes put them on a fucking David Lee Roth like fucking zip one thing have them swing around the fucking crowd dude please but that's our episode this week guys if you want some extra if you want to support the channel if you want a little extra content feel free to check out the Patreon we got some extra shit there some more recordings we also went and saw like Lee Cronin's The Mummy one time so if you see people be like Lee Cronin's this that's why we were thinking about going to see Ice Cream Man and reviewing that Eli Roth's abortion and then also if you're listening to this on Spotify it's an abortion he's fucking fuck Eli Roth as long as they have those mozzarella sticks again I'll see whatever you take me to but also if you're listening to Spotify on Apple Podcasts thank you for listening there consider giving us a nice rating until next time guys we will see you in the next one stay creeped bye-bye oh yes you still have to do your yeah usually i close my recording and then you still talk but right yeah so stay creeped and remember the next time that you want to do something for yourself you never know if you're building a decepticon that will come and murder your family in 12 years think very carefully about the tiny things you're doing that's actually a good this is a good moral next time a guy asks you for a lottery number walk away yeah i'm good i don't want to get involved yeah next time you want to kill your office crush so she doesn't ruin your life in four years just get a different job i will say though there's no way to game that because you could because you'd go fucking insane thinking about that oh the butterfly effect yeah people do go insane thinking it's because if you're like well i'm not gonna i'm not gonna give him a number but if i don't give him a number maybe that's the thing.

1:39:07Maybe that's what does it. Yeah, it's insane. So the moral of the story, there is a man out there planning to kill you in 12 years and you just have to be ready for that. Or the moral of the story is everyone's going to die. That's right. Everyone's going to die. Everyone's going to die, so it doesn't matter. So you might as well kill that girl now so that in 12 years you're with another girl and then you both die. Creepcast, incel certified. Creepcast, moral of the story, kill that girl bye kill that girl kill that girl kill that girl

1:40:10Thank you.