In short
A creepypasta about Necrosleep.net, an invitation-only website that recruits a sleep-avoiding “nocturnal” recluse with promises of pills that eliminate the need to sleep. The story is framed as surviving blog/forum evidence after the site disappears from the internet.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are mentioned in the provided transcript. The episode is hosted by the CreepCast hosts (Isaiah and another host are speaking).
Key claims
- Necrosleep.net offers “one pill a day” that “safely negates the biological necessity of sleep.”
- The invitation code DCLXVI (666) is required; the site appears to be Russian-language and poorly designed.
- The “Revelation 666” account sends targeted private messages that bypass forum systems; the user “doesn’t exist” in the forum database.
- The pills are priced around 130 USD per pill (Russian currency conversion).
- A “master”/founder is implied via a credit to “Dr. Hale A. Stan,” described as a proxy connected to a Ukrainian occult medicine institute.
- A “backdoor” link asks for the recipient’s address (P.O. box accepted in the forum thread).
Notable examples
- Reed Murdoch’s blog posts (Oct 16–28, 2014) describe joining “Nocturnal Underground,” receiving the Necrosleep invite, and investigating the site.
- Forum thread screenshots show “Invalid IP” access issues, profanity-filter chaos, and admin confirmation that the sender account is not in the database.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring Necrosleep
0:33 to 4:30
Dive into the creepypasta story 'Necrosleep' and its background.
“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”
Reed Murdoch's Life
4:30 to 7:30
Uncover the life of Reed Murdoch and his struggles in a blog format.
“What was fear.com was that like the website with all the it was that movie from 2002 creepy videos I'm thinking of just the website or the movie from 2002 the movie?”
A Glimpse into Reed's World
7:30 to 14:00
Experience Reed's chaotic life and his humorous take on living alone.
“I just moved out of my stupid parents' basement, thank God, and now I'm pursuing my own life where no one can push me.”
Apartment Chaos: A Personal Experience
14:00 to 20:52
Listeners will hear a chaotic and humorous recounting of apartment life drama.
Discussion of Characters and Addiction
20:52 to 21:28
The hosts analyze the main character's lifestyle and possible addiction.
The Decision to Go Nocturnal
21:28 to 22:52
Exploring the reasons behind the character's switch to a nocturnal lifestyle.
“So must suck that, you know, I can see yours.”
Joining Nocturnal Underground
22:52 to 24:16
The character finds a community that shares his feelings of societal disconnection.
“I have a number of good reasons for doing this.”
Invitation to Necrosleep.net
24:16 to 26:28
The character receives a mysterious invitation to a life-changing website.
“It could just be weed or something like that.”
Invitation to Necrosleep.net
26:31 to 29:45
The character receives a mysterious invitation to a life-changing website.
“Plus, Warby Parker has distributed over 20 million pairs of glasses to people in need through their Buy a Pair, Give a Pair program.”
Exploring the Necrosleep Website
30:01 to 36:21
The hosts discuss a mysterious website promising to negate the need for sleep.
“Sounds like a total scam, but it piqued my interest.”
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Forum Reactions and Investigations
36:21 to 42:01
A dive into forum discussions about Necrosleep reveals skepticism and intrigue.
“Here's a transcript of the forum thread.”
Exploring Necrosleep: The Forum Discovery
42:01 to 44:48
Learn about a peculiar online thread discussing a substance called Necrosleep and its implications.
“before finally running into an old gaming forum thread where the website necrosleep.net was mentioned.”
The Mystery Deepens: Offers and Reactions
44:49 to 48:25
The host shares a personal story of receiving an intriguing offer related to Necrosleep.
“Could be a prank, But evidently, this has been going on since 2006 at least.”
The Mystery Deepens: Offers and Reactions
48:26 to 51:10
The host shares a personal story of receiving an intriguing offer related to Necrosleep.
“your why would they not just give it to you make you think it's a free product and then they slide do the offer.”
The Mystery Deepens: Offers and Reactions
51:16 to 52:20
The host shares a personal story of receiving an intriguing offer related to Necrosleep.
“Hollow socks are made with baby alpaca fiber.”
The Envelope: A Creepy Delivery
52:21 to 56:03
The host describes receiving an eerie package that raises more questions than answers.
“I heard you say something about a guy shoving something.”
The Morbid Experiments of Dr. Hale A. Stan
56:03 to 59:08
Discover the unsettling experiments and claims of Dr. Hale A. Stan related to necrosleep.
“It just occurred to me that I completely overlooked something.”
Reflections on the Dark Web and Horror
59:08 to 1:01:00
Explore the hosts' thoughts on the dark web and its connection to horror stories.
“for the auto-jector, while Stan remained in permanent imprisonment.”
The Risks and Emotions of the Narrative
1:01:00 to 1:04:24
The hosts discuss the emotional weight of the narrative and the character's motivations.
“being good i will admit this is good hunter compared to old hunter this is good i am trying to i'm trying to keep the you know what it is is i i'm legitimately pretty interested in this weird dark web.”
The Pill and the Dilemma of Choice
1:04:24 to 1:10:01
Delve into the character's decision-making process regarding the mysterious pill.
“Says the man who won't step outside of the house.”
Character Analysis of the Pill User
1:10:01 to 1:11:42
Discussion of the motivations and character traits of the person using a mysterious pill.
“He said, I'm holding the pill in my hand.”
The Unraveling of the Pill's Mystery
1:11:42 to 1:14:02
Exploration of the implications of a symbol found on the pill's packaging, leading to a deeper understanding of its origins.
“So I duct tape a piece of cardboard over the window.”
Paranoia and Symptoms of Isolation
1:14:02 to 1:17:02
An account of the character's mental state and paranoia as he navigates life under the influence of the pill.
“This was, these were the hits people were listening to.”
The Descent into Fear and Anxiety
1:17:02 to 1:20:52
A narrative of the character's growing dread of social interactions and his fear of leaving his apartment.
“Over the past week, I've been taking one of these pills at exactly 10 p.m.”
The Disturbing Television Experience
1:20:52 to 1:24:03
A surreal recount of disturbing imagery from a children's show, reflecting the character's troubled mind.
“None of my instant messenger friends have been online lately, and they stopped upvoting my blog post.”
The Shocking Revelation
1:24:03 to 1:25:41
A bizarre and horrifying television moment leaves the narrator in disbelief.
“I told you the show was weird, but that's not even the start.”
Descent into Paranoia
1:25:41 to 1:28:49
The narrator's mental state deteriorates as they confront terrifying visions and isolation.
“I tried to stop the pills again, but I had a change of heart at the last minute.”
A Disturbing Turn of Events
1:28:49 to 1:31:49
The narrator grapples with trust issues and hears sinister voices, leading to a tragic conclusion.
“Police arrived on the scene after a frantic 911 call from Margaret Murdoch, confirmed to be the aggressor's mother.”
Cannibalistic Horror
1:31:49 to 1:35:25
Police reports detail horrific findings linked to the narrator's actions and drug use.
“while the head was found crushed, the brain having been completely removed and nowhere to be found.”
Analyzing the Story's Themes
1:35:25 to 1:38:01
The hosts discuss the story's effectiveness, themes of isolation, and mental health.
“I personally really like the detail that the pills were parasite capsules.”
Exploring Themes of Isolation and Connection
1:38:01 to 1:42:16
Discussion revolves around the themes of isolation and the search for connection in storytelling.
“That's a remake from the, in the seventies.”
Critique of the Story's Character Development
1:42:17 to 1:45:49
Analyzing character motivations and the story's engagement with its audience.
“I'll give it I definitely will give it points there I think this is a very good first draft.”
Transcript
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1:15Welcome back to Creepcast. Today we are looking into the creepypasta, uh, the creepypasta stratosphere. We're looking high into the creepypasta clouds and we're reading a story called Necrosleep, which, uh, won a pasta of the month on Creepypasta Wiki. uh back when is this 2020 uh 2014 uh it was written 2014 but it won january of 2015 okay cool so that is uh we're doing uh looking back on or looking at the website i just we were looking for a story to read today and we saw this one and thought it was pretty sweet so or interesting from a glance and uh it seems like it has like a bunch of uh really awesome comments and stuff and we just got done doing uh the japanese episode that had like a bit of the like the post, like the guy who's like commenting and stuff.
2:06And I think this might be a station. Yeah. I think this one might be somewhat similar of a man making post or like react or at least trying to reach out to people via online or something, or maybe even just talking about a website. I'm not sure, but it seems similar. And I really liked the vibe of the train story. So I figured we'd read this one too. Yep. This story was written by limb to skate 64. He wrote this back in 2014. and it seems a lot of people go to which i this for websites formatted not the best but if you go to his creepypasta wiki profile you can see him talking to other users and one of things one of them is friend of the show imperial invective or travis love travis um and it looks like he reached out to him all the way back in 2014 and was like hey man you know good story uh and then lemniscate said he was writing another one but at least on the creepypasta wiki that never came out so it looks like this guy had a one hit wonder uh that one posted the month a lot of people really hype about it and then he hasn't posted in 12 years isn't that is that one hit wonder or is that a man batting a thousand flawless victory that's true that's true if you get onto the yankees once and hit a grand slam and quit everyone will remember you i think you will i mean if that's the only thing you've ever hit was a grand slam i think it's pretty good pretty pretty well just in case lemna skate still out there sees this uh and wants to continue writing we're gonna link his uh creepypasta wiki profile in the in the description so if lemna skates out there and wants to update with something new or wants to remain the mysterious shadow man we'll throw the ball in his court uh but this one looks pretty cool if you scroll through pasta because the creepypasta wiki i'll be the first to say has some real losers in there but if you scroll through post of the month you'll typically find cream of the crop in a lot of cases and this one sounds cool so we're going to check it out and again uh imperial invective is known for excellent stories back to back so if he likes it i think i'm gonna like it and also just want to shout out our audio listeners on spotify and apple podcasts please give us a nice rating there if you want to listen over there and also to our beautiful patrons who get exclusive of stories and just get everything ad free as well so if you want to support the channel feel free to check it out and check out all the other goodies that we have there now Isaiah without further ado are you ready I'm ready to get into it are we really starting this early no meandering no I know I think this is this is I think we're keeping a good pace I think that this is the I'm excited to get in I will say the looking at the wiki page here there is one image that is of the necrosleep.net webpage and I don't know why I just keep thinking fear.com it's given me like similar vibes remember that?
4:58What was fear.com was that like the website with all the it was that movie from 2002 creepy videos I'm thinking of just the website or the movie from 2002 the movie? Yeah it was during like the dot com kind of boom thing and they're just like what if there was a creepy website where you died I don't really remember the I don't remember the movie actually being that good, but I will say the poster or the cover of the movie scared the shit out of me when I was younger. Oh, of the distorted face. Yeah, it freaked me out. That is a classic early 2000s distorted face. Look, it's got Natasha McKellone.
5:38McKellone, I think that's her name. She played the wife in the Truman Show, I think. Is that right? No, she played the girl that Truman actually loved in the Truman Show. Yeah, yeah. Laura Linney played the wife. that's right that's right that's right yeah and uh the guy who played frost in blade can't remember his name wanted to say ethan hawk definitely not ethan hawk can't remember his name steven dorf yeah steven dorf he's also in those i tried to quit smoking but i had to get on this whatever that would right right he's the cop that keeps chain smoking the whole time and he's like oh so it's like a i think steven dorf is i think steven dorf is in a legitimate medical commercial where it's like i use this patch to quit smoking that's how i also remember him from oh oh of course his grand slam of the quit smoking commercial he's a dude he's i'm looking at his imdb right now he's in one of those guys who's in movies that can't be real like there's a movie called felon or just shows two prisoners there's one called gunslinger where he's holding a gun uh mob land where oh that's john travolta that's an ai john travolta holding a gun he uh he reminds me of like an ethan hawk it's like the cool guy whatever you know it's like it's like the guy who's he's in a little more of the edgy edgy stuff where he's like he's kind of in uh he's in a bunch of like uh horror films and he's also in a bunch of like other random movies i feel like ethan hawk like steven dorf and ethan hawk are just in a bunch of shit it doesn't matter who gives a shit uh neck but every now and then steven hawk's in something like first reformed and it's like oh well that's fine you can do whatever you want now all right anyway yeah necros there we go now i feel better we meandered a bit i diverted it became confusing now i feel like i could start the story excellent all right
7:30necrosleep cold case file necrosleep.net april 18th 2023 the following account is the only surviving evidence supporting the existence of necrosleep.net the blog data was downloaded by a concerned reader just before it vanished from the internet in 2014 the data was not recovered until nine years had passed these are the final days of reed murdoch written in his own words okay so this was posted in 2014 so at the time 2023 was just saying nine years from now someone's going to find this right that i don't know i can't tell is it it's hard to tell with sometimes it's hard to tell with how uh pre-post a wiki is like i'm pretty sure this was post everything i've seen it looks like it was posted in 2014 i don't think that was an addendum made so this is okay so this is just a do you think at the time it was nine years in the future people find this i think i see so the only details for our story now is that these are the final days of reed murdoch so great name by the way my disconnected life blog by reed murdoch october 16th 2014 hey guys so i've decided to start should i do this in a youtuber voice no it goes bad no no okay hey guys so i decided to start hey guys so i've decided to start a blog about my new life most of you reading this are probably my friends and acquaintances for the rest of you i'll expose a little bit about myself.
9:01My name's Reed. I just moved out of my stupid parents' basement, thank God, and now I'm pursuing my own life where no one can push me. Okay, I'm sorry, I have to. Hey guys, so I've decided to start a blog about my new life. Most of you who are reading this are probably my friends and acquaintances, but for the rest of you, I'll expose a little bit about myself. My name's Reed. I just moved out of my stupid parents' basement thank god and now i'm pursuing my own life where no one can push me around anymore technically i'm the one who ditched the place but they all kicked me out beforehand nobody gives a damn about a crackhead like me not even my parents not that i care okay so all right we are under the assumption here that reed reed is reed's a bit of a bit of a fractured character he's a bit of a broken man a crackhead who was living at home who definitely got kicked out of his parents house probably for smoking crack well is is he an actual crackhead or is that in the way is that like the white girl like oh i'm such a crackhead way that wasn't really a term in 2014 right i don't i mean i don't even think i've heard someone say oh i'm such a crackhead i mean how you've never heard that no i feel like all the time it's it's like ah my second coffee today i'm being such a crackhead yeah oh well maybe it is then i'm i am under the assumption that this is a full-blown drug addict that we're going to be dealing with.
10:21I mean, if he got kicked out of his parents' house, yes. I would agree with that. I don't think if you like stay up till 11 p.m., your parents are like, on the street, go, be gone. Anyways, I'm doing my own thing now. I had to give up a few luxuries. My mom's hellacious cooking, not worthy of being called a luxury. I'd much rather live off discount ramen noodles anyways. Sometimes I'll even have corn on the side when I'm feeling extra fancy. Speaking of fancy, I'll admit my apartment is anything but. It's the cheapest one I could find, in fact. I find the saying, you get what you pay for, to be especially true when I'm trying to sleep to the lulling sound of what I can only guess is some old lady getting mugged in the dark alley next door.
11:05My ghetto sanctuary consists of one living room, a kitchenette, a bathroom, and a closet. The walls are practically made of cardboard, and the carpet is stained with God knows what. But it's good enough for me. Living with me is my poor excuse for a cat named Twig. She's one of those weird hairless breeds, and in turn, a real conversation piece. I'm often asked why the cat's turned inside out, or if she was a victim of some perverse taxidermy project gone wrong. Shoddy as my life seems, living on the cheap has its benefits. My cost of living is next to nothing, so I can make enough money to survive by doing odd jobs on the internet without ever leaving the house.
11:48I spend half the month writing bogus reviews for products I've never used and filling out surveys on political issues I know nothing about. Then spend the other half surfing the web and watching pirated reruns of the X-Files. I don't even have to pay for internet service thanks to my neighbor's complete failure to secure their Wi-Fi hotspot. I bet their data overages are through the roof now. Oh well, not my problem. I'll be updating this blog every day or two if I'm up to anything interesting. Thanks for reading this boring crap. Hopefully my life will get a little more exciting in the days to come.
12:21Read. I feel like all the stories you talk about you, like pre-YouTube, I feel like that could just fit into any one of them, and I wouldn't bet an eye. What do you mean? One day you could just be talking and be like, yeah, so I was in this one-room apartment with my hairless cat. I had a hairless cat named Twig for a while, and the neighbor didn't lock their Wi-Fi, so I did that. but I just watched the X-Files all day and did fake surveys for money. I did have a horrible apartment experience when I was living in LA. Look at that. Go ahead. I lived in this, like, they said it was a one-bedroom, which is like the biggest lie.
13:03I mean, it's so stupid. It was this tiny apartment, and they're like, oh, it's a one-bedroom apartment. And I was like, well, that's fine. It's only me. And then I went in there. It's half a wall, so it's like there's not even a full wall. It's almost like a bar. you know like a bar countertop yeah so they just put in like half a wall and they're like okay well this is your your bedroom and you're like okay here's my half privacy wall uh but the biggest thing with this was that there was this like huge this like i was caught in the middle basically of a rivalry between families there was these two indian families that lived in the apartment complex and I had no no that were in the meat of this that was the appetizer I was I was like picking up the dumplings there's a few chips but now the steaks here all right well I lived I lived on the first floor and across from me was this Indian family and I would say predominantly in this apartment complex I mean it was a lot of Indian families and just like a lot of people living in their apartments like I mean it might have been two bedrooms but there was maybe eight people living there it was just a lot of people it was just a lot of people and across from me there was one family and then the people who lived above me on the second floor uh they like they hated each other i don't know really to what extent but i would hear them screaming i just had war flashbacks because this guy was like their cardboard walls that could not even be an under like that's legitimately what it felt like and there was this one night this guy came out and there was like absolute pandemonium whatever and in these like kind of like la uh apartments it's like kind of like not not a compound but it's like you go out and it's whenever you step outside of your apartment you are outside even though you're still in your apartment complex you know what i mean so they would be yelling at each other and they were like throwing all their food and they were throwing wet towels and all this stuff at each other right and it kept it kept hitting my door and it hit my window so i had like all of this food and wet clothes wet towels all over my like all over my door handle my windows and instead of x file instead of x files i was just i think i was like watch i like went through this weird period where i kept watching pimp my ride so i was like watching pimp my ride like super super loud trying to drown out this thing so it's exhibit being like you know damn you're very nasty and above me above me it's people being like do not look at her do not look at her over and over and over again i was not it was like that back and forth it was absolute pandemonium and the reason that the half wall is important is because i didn't have a i mean like it doesn't go up the ceiling so then the living room window which saw out into the like the common area or like you know like the sidewalk that would go like the pool and all that stuff whatever it was there and I just tried to sleep and you would just see the silhouettes of these people screaming and once again the wet towels I really I know I keep saying wet towels yeah I cannot emphasize the amount of why did they have wet towels I don't know at first I thought it was pool yeah yeah well there's the pool oh okay but it was as if they washed it everyone there was only a uh there's like a common you know like a washer and dryer room in the apartment complex uh so it's like on the way but the people above me but the people above me i think that they washed all of their stuff in their apartment probably in their bath or something i don't know but it wasn't just uh it was it's not like it was just like one or two i don't know beach towels to like dry off with this was like yeah bathroom towels like an entire family's collection of towels and imagine like a full not like a hand towel a full bath towel that you dry your body off with soaking wet balled up and then like thrown as hard as they can at a guy's like window it's a goddamn it's it's it becomes artillery after a while but it was uh it was a very chaotic time i went broke though and i uh i had to leave that place so i would have stayed really yeah Really?
17:24Where'd you go from there? Utah. I was too embarrassed to go back home. I already went broke before I had to go back home. I remember you telling me about this. You worked with a bunch of Mormons over there. It was an installation center or something like that? No, it was a solar panel company. Solar panel, that was it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they all took a lot of Mormons I worked with. I took, uh, they, it was like a national holiday the day, uh, Avengers infinity war, whatever came out. They, uh, cause I mean, they're all Disney adults, you know? Um, yeah. And they all like, yeah, freaked out and they gave us the day off to see it.
18:06Um, the day, by the way, I just want to say it's a hour and a half, two hour long movie and they're like, better take a full work day off to figure that one out. Okay. All right. All right. Go back. Go back. what would the families fight over you said like don't look at her like their daughter I told you I don't know it would always be big blanket statements like that where there's obviously some kind of there's going to build up leading to it that I have no idea about I'm like right you know and this this is also happening I'm bringing home groceries I'm coming home from work you hear these exchanges there I might be watching pit my ride in my in my apartment and then there's you hear the kind of like the random things it would always it would just be like big that was like i remember calling mom one time being like i don't know what the conflict is it's it would make so much more sense if it was like you cheated on my wife or you know like or you slept with my wife right yeah yeah yeah it was either don't look at her which i was like okay well that could be maybe i don't know peep and tom or something wife daughter but then the next like the next day would be give that back give it back and you'd be like well why did he even take you know there might have been like a romeo juliet scenario going on like they had a couple one of them had like a teenage son the other teenage daughter you know i guess i don't know it was a lot of people i mean like it really it was um it was like i mean like a family of people i mean it was like a wife a dad a kids grandma i mean it was a lot of people in the it was a generational conflict but you would just see the explosions when they would pass each other going to laundry i mean in the most that's probably why what the one family washed their towels in the bath so they wouldn't have to see the other family i mean maybe i don't know it was chaotic i fucking i if any of our listeners who's who's existing in an apartment right now i really do salute you i do not want to go back every time i every apartment i've ever lived in i fucking i always had some kind of issue i hated it i've never lived in an apartment closest was when i was dating kayla she lived in the dorms at college so i would go like you know stay there and stuff but obviously you know everyone's same age going to classes there's not nearly as much like familial drama there's drama was like people getting drunk and you know parties and stuff but not that kind not you know just throwing stuff or whatever we always just had a bunch of very creepy weird so it was just apartments are just such a weird weird place to meet people but anyways
20:53okay yeah so anyway back to the story necrosleep well and you know at least at least so far we have at least understood this about our main character person it seems like newly on their own doesn't go out a lot is a homebody who basically exists on the internet all day that's pretty much what we've found out so far right right uh well he got kicked out because of smoking crack that is the difference between you and him you did you didn't smoke i don't think smoked crack at any point in this i have not smoked crack if i did if i have i would admit it you would you would talk about it i don't think i would judge anyone i don't think i would judge anyone who smoked crack maybe once i think if if they're like well i've done it a couple times i'm like well what what did you miss the first time you know like what what was the unanswered question this would be my question this would be my question what was the gap between the times because if someone does crack and then three years later they do it again i think they're still yeah exactly exactly when they do that it's like all right so you were crack addicts for a little while which again clean totally fine but there's a big difference between spacing them out and like grouping them all up i have my own i have my own personal advices with fucking food and who doesn't drink a little too much you know what if someone's just like you know what i i'm on a bit of a fucking crack binge i mean i would say yeah i think i'd get taken care of but god bless you is what i'd say yeah yeah it's like this isn't good for you You need to do better, but, you know, I'm glad you can't see the things that I'm not great at.
22:28So must suck that, you know, I can see yours. So I get it. I get it. October 18th, 2014. I've decided to do something unusual. It's 3 a.m. and I intend to stay up all night. Caffeinated beverages at my side. Why am I doing this, you ask? Because I'm permanently switching to a nocturnal sleep schedule. In other words, I'll be sleeping during the day instead of the night. I have a number of good reasons for doing this. Number one, there's less people out at night, so leaving the building won't be such a dreaded thing. Number two, sunlight gives you cancer, right? Number three, screw social norms.
23:10Number four, the internet speed seems to increase substantially after midnight. Number five, it's a free country. I don't even need reasons. i like how his fifth reason is that the reasons are unneeded um so the first point's interesting he's dreading leaving the building because of people so it may just be because of his addiction but he also may be a bit agoraphobic of like running into others and stuff also i ran into this cool forum called nocturnal underground naturally it's full of sun-loathing recluses and cynical misanthropes like me. How perfect. I registered straight away and found the forum dwellers to be very welcoming.
23:55It's not the most famous of internet destinations, more of a tight-knit hole in the wall for a very obscure subculture. We all seem to share general appreciation for a societal disconnect, which is cool, because I really thought I was the only whack job who can't stand dealing with normal people. After all, it's these normal people who are telling me I don't have the right to smoke whatever substances i damn well please as if it's their business i'll let you all know how this whole nocturnal thing works for me peace out have we done i feel like we have have we done stories before where the protagonist is an addict of some kind no i mean i don't think that our this guy's a crack addict actually i think i think that you're probably right i think it's him just being like oh it's my crackhead because already he's starting to show like uh kind of like what you're saying like oh i stay up all night i'm i'm as twingy as a crackhead or something like i'm just Well, yeah, but then he had that line where he said.
24:48Yeah, but it's just weed. Like smoke, whatever. Well, yeah, I mean, it could be. It could just be weed or something like that. But he did get kicked out of his house. So could be actual crack. I don't know. But he clearly doesn't like other people, which I imagine this form is where like he's going to find whatever necrosleep is and stuff. So October 21st, 2014. I'm adjusting very well to my new lifestyle. I can already tell this is the way I should have been living all along. The internet is a far more interesting place during the night. Everything has been fairly normal lately. Except for one thing.
25:25Yesternight, I said... I guess, I guess yesternight would technically be a word. Yesternight, I received a mysterious private message on Nocturnal Underground. Here it is. Copy and paste it for your reading pleasure. to readman07 from revelation666 subject necrosleep.net congratulations readman07 you've been invited to an invitation only website that will change your life forever discover what society doesn't want you to know at necrosleep.net use your exclusive invitation code to enter dclxvi find out what you've been missing your entire life necrosleep.net that is Roman numerals for 6662 okay so DCLXVI is DCLXVI is 666 and it's also the name was Revelation 666 so you know probably fine this episode is sponsored by Warby Parker buying glasses does not have to be so complicated often times it's hard to tell if the glasses are going to fit your face or if you're being charged for a fair price why are they asking me to do this i don't wear glasses i don't know anything about this i literally wear warby parker glasses you like warby parker yeah these are 15 or 10 years old well they're old why don't you get new ones are you allergic to just spending money on quality things these are these are 100 bucks that is why i'm with warby parker nothing comes close to worry parker on quality price selection and customer service their virtual try-on feature lets you try before you buy with your phone you can try on tons of frames on your face in real time letting you feel good about your choice you make warby parker has tons of options and you can get lenses in prescription non-prescription progressive and even as readers right away you can tell the difference in quality and they have been the perfect partner for long drives and late night streams so ditch your old unreliable glasses and grab a pair from warby parker their prescription glasses start 95 dollars allowing to look stylish and an affordable price.
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30:18I presumed that this was where I was supposed to put in the invitation code and I presumed correctly. When the homepage loaded, I immediately noticed that all of the text was in Russian besides the title header, which simply said necrosleep.net in English. My web browser automatically detected that the site was Russian and offered to translate it for me, so of course, I clicked yes. Now, the site was clearly on the shady side. Whoever made it was certainly not well-versed in web design, as it had more in common with a notepad document than a good webpage. The background was black, the white text was written in the oh-so-generic courier font, and under the title header was a row of red hyperlinks labeled as follows.
31:03Main, Purchase, Secret, and Credit. Here's an excerpt from the main page. Welcome to Necrosleep.net. This website is invitation only. Selected visitors have exclusive access to our special product that will change your life forever. whatever. NecroSleep is a product that safely negates the biological necessity of sleep. Thanks to our miraculous secret formula, with one pill a day, you will never feel the need to sleep again. Try it for yourself by clicking the purchase link. If NecroSleep doesn't change your life, we will offer you a complete refund. Your astonishment is guaranteed. I like that.
31:37That's, that's interesting. That's really fun. Yeah, this is Russian sleep experiment territory with the whole if you stay awake long enough you know you unlock something or you you quit staving something off you didn't realize you've been staving off your whole life that's cool what a bold claim these people are making there's no way this stuff actually works otherwise everyone would be taking it obviously i was skeptical and still am but i snooped around the side a bit more just out of curiosity i clicked the secret hyperlink which took me to another page Here's the text from Setpage.
32:42you with full confidence that our product will change your life and you will never feel the need to sleep again feel free to indulge in our secret i'm assuming master is the devil or something adjacent given all the 666 stuff i hope not i hope not probably but i mean the name of the account was revelation 666 i mean i get that i'm just saying i you know i agree it'd be more impressive if it doesn't or if they never you know allude further as to what master is but i'm just i'm just bear trapping right now that's probably the direction it's not not a fucking bear trap when 666 is plastered all over the page but okay it gives a bear trap well no i i think that would be a bear trap because that requires some previous knowledge of what the 666 means and i also had to read roman numerals which is hard um and uh yeah and it said master so i'm just putting pieces together.
33:37It can be a beaver trap. Have you seen beaver traps? They're like bear traps but smaller and they don't have teeth, you know? I have not. Alternative means? More like black market. Whatever's going on here doesn't appear to be legal exactly. Not that I care about the law. I just get untrustworthy vibes from this site. Anyways, I continued on and clicked the credit hyperlink. Art skipped a little when I was confronted with honestly the most uncanny photo of a living person I've ever seen. It was an old black and white photo of a tall man in a doctor's coat. If he wasn't standing upright, I'd say the guy was dead.
34:15But my guess is that he was just cadaverously unhealthy and probably blind from the looks of his pale, lifeless eyes. Not a trace of emotion could be found in his face. There is a small bit of text below the photo which reads as follows. Credit for the pioneering of Necrosweep Goes to the brilliant Dr. Hale A. Oh my god Oh boy Please lord don't do this Please god Lord Please Please lord Okay Brilliant Dr. Hale A. Stan Proxy of our master and founder of the Ukrainian Institute of Occult Medicine His work lives on ukrainian institute of occult medicine okay uh it is it is i was gonna make a joke before the hail a stand about like oh look at our brilliant leader and it's like a corpse just stood up um hail a stand proxy of our master occult medicine maybe i've watched too many horror movies but this isn't your typical snake oil sales pitch.
35:30Maybe they're part of some deranged religious group or something? I admit I was slightly creeped out, but more fascinated. Click the purchase hyperlink out of mere curiosity once again. Turns out each pill costs some absurd amount of Russian currency, which I found out was equal to about 130 US dollars per pill? Ridiculous. Not that I would buy them, even if I could. I immediately left the site. At this point, I'm guessing it's probably a lousy foreign credit card scam or some weird cult initiative. Either way, it made my day more interesting than it normally would have been. Next blog post, October 22nd, 2014.
36:09I posted a thread on Nocturnal Underground about the mystery user who sent me the strange PM. I found myself wanting to know more about this whole necrosleep.net thing, so as part of my investigation, I sought to find out who the user was. Here's a transcript of the forum thread. Hey guys, I hope I'm not disrupting the order of things by posting this in the trolling and harassment section. I didn't know where else to put it. I figured this incident of mine might qualify as a spam case if other people are getting the same advertisement message I am. Basically the other day I got a PM from a user I've never seen before called Revelation 666 and the message was an advertisement for some supplement.
36:51Has anyone seen this user on the forums before? I sure haven't. If you have any information, that'd be great. Cosmic Trash Bin says. I don't recognize the username. Must be fairly new or just inactive. What were the exact contents of the message? We could probably get an admin to ban him for advertising. Here's a screen cap of the message. Strange. Did you actually go to the website? I hope not. It's probably infested with viruses. Just tried going there. It's just a black screen. The invite code didn't work either. It just gave me a pop-up box that said invalid IP. Of course I went there. I couldn't resist.
37:31Doesn't work for me either. Invalid IP. If it only works for Readman07, maybe it's bound to his IP somehow. Can you get some screenshots of the site? You've sparked my interest. Here you are. The page was initially in Russian, so I had my browser translated. Looks shady as hell. Wow. Don't even mess with it. You're asking for trouble just by clicking the link You're probably being keylogged as we speak Not to mention the product they're selling Is probably laced with cyanide If he's stupid enough to buy it Well, the gene pool is better off Without him anyways Never trust a Russian I'm Russian and I find that offensive You just said you were Asian last week Make up your damn mind
38:17I leave this thread for five minutes And chaos ensues Everybody calm the expletive down. Of course, I'm not going to mess with it. These supposed miracle pills are$130 each anyways. Who do you think I am, Johnny Cash? Just because his name was Johnny Cash doesn't mean he was rich or had lots of cash or whatever. What? Of course he was rich, you dumb son of a bitch. He's Johnny's fucking cash. Whose bright idea was it to equip this form with a profanity filter anyways? It's stupid. Before this thread deteriorates any further, Let me just say, I've put tape over my webcam just in case something slipped past my antivirus, but it's probably just a credit card scam or something.
38:59I'll do some research on it tomorrow. Sun's been up for three hours and I'm running low on energy drinks. I'll contact one of the admins about this. Spam isn't tolerated here. I ought to see if they're willing to install the profanity filter plugin as well. I got a message later on from HG Wishing wells one of the that's a good name one of the admins saying that the user revelation 666 doesn't exist in the database that the only way i could have received the message is if the mail client was bypassed somehow in other words somebody hacked the system just to send me a spam message what the hell you know so far i like the idea of uh well first off the the kind of like the comedy that they're adding to the story is funny but then also i like that the the idea of somebody contacting you via the internet or this forum page or website just to be like hey we have this awesome product like if it didn't have all like the obvious satan stuff i feel like the the idea that it's like like that beat right there would have revealed that it's the okay well either somebody's hacking this thing or it's almost like a like a fucking ghost is contacting me or something like a little more paranormal or something i think it's pretty cool or even if you take out the paranormal in general and it is someone just being like they bypass and they want to talk to you directly and instead of that uh yeah that mystery for some reason right when i made the decision to start sleeping through the day i'm contacted by this person who says i don't have to sleep anymore i think that would be pretty cool the satan takes a lot of wind out of the sails i'm i'm not going to be a previous hunter would would be rolling his eyes and huffing and puffing.
40:42You literally did that. You did that exact thing. I mean continuously and I would be like this is bad blah blah blah. I'm saying that I'm having faith that this is going to course correct and that it will pay off. What changed in you? Why are you not previous hunter right now? I think after doing well one you read so much stuff that you just after a while not that you become desensitized to it but I think that you have to have some imbalance of faith that something is going to it's going to be better. You know what I mean? Right. You have to hope. And also, who just wants to listen to a fucking Debbie Downer the whole time?
41:16It's like, you know, we're having fun reading it. I don't think that this story is, like, bad so far. I think it's kind of cute. We'll see. All right. We'll see if you keep this positive disposition. October 23rd, 2014. I finally got around to Googling Necrosleep. The results were mostly irrelevant YouTube channels and defunct 90s screamo bans from the looks of it. But I noticed among the garbage results a link to a post on FastMD.com. The preview said, Does anyone know if this Necrosleep stuff actually works? So I clicked on it, only to be directed to a page stating, The post you're looking for has been deleted and no longer exists.
41:56Should've known. Nothing can ever be easy or predictable. I returned to the results and had to scan over several pages of them before finally running into an old gaming forum thread where the website necrosleep.net was mentioned. This time, the post hadn't been deleted. In the middle of a conversation about maximizing crop production in some medieval strategy game, one of the users claimed to have taken Necrosleep in order to tend to his virtual farm 24 hours a day. Needless to say, the other forum patrons were highly skeptical. The guy posted a link to necrosleep.net in an attempt to back up his claim, ultimately failing to convince him because, you guessed it, the site was bound to his IP address.
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42:40He also had the same invitation code as me, DCLXVI, leading me to believe that it's just a formality intended to make you feel special. But that doesn't explain why and how my IP, and apparently someone else's, got singled out. Again, it's like finding people who have made the determination to not sleep or to want to not sleep. And I think that's pretty fun. also this idea too of the chronic online culture or even like a guy being like i need to tend to my video game for 24 hours a day it's almost like it is almost making like a deal with the devil you know and once again it's like that concept would be so much funnier or so much funner if it wasn't dr you know hayley's tail a stand yeah yeah yeah it'd be i would respect the story pretty big if that was all a misdirect i i maybe it is you know maybe it is it's just so it's so on the nose that i'm i'm hoping it's just like it's yeah misdirected yeah hail a stan the bragger then claimed that there was irrefutable proof of his ceaseless wakefulness in his end game score in relation to the length of time his account had existed his score was excessively high so high in fact that it would be impossible for him to attain so high a score in so short a time frame unless he was playing the game for at least 21 hours a day which leaves practically no time for sleeping.
44:07Despite all that, they attributed his accomplishment to an automatic bot program that operated the game for him during the night. Since cheating in this way is against the game rules, his account was promptly banned, according to the moderator at the end of the thread. Sure enough, in little red letters below his forum avatar were the words, BANNED FOR Bot Abuse, 8-12-2006. I couldn't find any more relevant results for Necrosleep or Necrosleep.net other than what I just told you about. Looks like these online dope dealers are pretty stealthy. I'm just dying to know what their real motives might be, because I could think of a million better ways to seal someone's credit card number or peddle quack remedies.
44:50Could be a prank, But evidently, this has been going on since 2006 at least. Perhaps some jokes just never die. I kind of read that ending as him also being like, I think he's starting to come around to like something, like I think he believes that this thing is not just a scam. Yeah, he's starting to be like, ha, ha, guys, funny joke. I actually believe that there's some kind of project or something. This idea too, though, of, yeah, I really like this idea of like, or what why do you think they let that only that's the only thing or let me rephrase i'm saying why do you think that they have that still up like if they're being this shady and like there's no other cases of necrosleep why do you think that there's only like that guy uh like the gamer guy why do you think that that's still if they're not actually supernatural they might have just missed it maybe if it was just mentioned in a thread in 2006 about a farming game right then he got banned you know there could be other accounts like that out there it's just so bare because like he said necro sleep sounds like scary youtube videos or metal bands and stuff like that you know it there was a bunch of results covering it so maybe if you do dig deep enough you will find random maybe people can't make a post about it but maybe the phrasing is mentioned in comments around the internet and stuff like that yeah because i think what's churned his mind is like the fact that it grabbed his ip and it like basically hacked a site so that it could mail him this like offer to buy a product and it's been doing that for nearly a decade so i think that's why i think this isn't just a scam it's also the thing why would a ghost even give a fuck about the pills costing anything versus usually if you just sign up for it's like does this sound interesting all right we'll send you some you know so i'm wondering the financial aspect to it of i feel like it's a ruse or maybe just makes it sound more mystical i don't think it's a ghost i think cult's more likely um but also the money makes it yeah because if you got a spam ad it's like free just click here and give us your address it'd be like okay you know um i feel like the money legitimizes it somehow hey hey look ghost gotta make a living it's hard out there if me and you invented a pill that lets you stay up all night are we going to sell that for free no i need 25 ghost dollars yeah well which is the equivalent of like 300 bucks usd pay it's for bitcoin per ghost dollar it's oh my gosh it's like it's like 350 000 dollars and that's what we would sell it for because good youtubers know when they have a product on their hand.
47:38October 25th, 2014. I got another PM from Revelation 666. Am I the only one who gets creeped out by that name? Yes. Knowing what I know now, it makes me uneasy to think about the great links this user went to contact me specifically. For some reason, they stealthily bypassed the system just to send me these messages and make me this offer. Here's the message I received to readman07 from revelation 666 subject necrosleep.net slash backdoor congratulations readman07 you've you've been selected to receive a free 30-day trial of necrosleep claim your exclusive reward at necrosleep.net slash backdoor find out what you've been missing your entire life risk-free necrosleep.net slash backdoor all right there it is there you go there's your why would they not just give it to you make you think it's a free product and then they slide do the offer.
48:32Once again, my curiosity got the best of me. Bracing myself for whatever scam was coming my way, I clicked the link. I was taken to a page asking for my address, nothing more. Thought about it carefully, knowing full well that these people likely have malicious intentions. But if I entered my post office box, what's the worst that could happen? Them sending me some junk mail or faulty pills? The point is that I'll finally know what they want from me. I entered the address October 28th, 2014 I decided to go back to the thread I posted on Nocturnal Underground and let people know what's up Sure enough, their reactions were amusing Conversation as follows Well guys, it happened again Look at the attachment Don't tell me you clicked on this one too I did Then it asked me for my address But don't worry I only entered my P.O.
49:27box Are you out of your fucking mind? I take it you couldn't persuade the admins to disable the profanity filter. No shit, Sherlock. Apparently they got a huge kick out of watching us quarrel over it. I wouldn't be surprised if HG wishing well sent me these weird messages just to stir up some controversy around here. Neither would I. The mystery has been solved. Everybody go home. In all seriousness, I had nothing to do with this. I swear on my great-grandmother's life. Swearing on the life of a dead person isn't exactly the most convincing way to plead. I think the joke's gone far enough. HG, did you do it or not?
50:03I really didn't do it. The admins and I generally perplexed when we saw where the message came from. Or should I say, where the message didn't come from. It was certainly not from any registered user on the inside. If they actually send you the pills, are you going to take them? You couldn't pay me a million bucks to try that shit. I can personally guarantee you that this stuff is too good to be true. Nothing that nothing can make you stay awake forever. I agree with cosmic. Don't take this any further. Even if they do send me the pills and it's not just junk mail, I'm not going to take it unless I find some more information on it.
50:39Do you really think I'm that stupid? Chill out, guys. I probably won't update this thread anymore. Just follow my blog if you want to know what's up with me. Links on my profile. I hate this idea of him saying, of him saying, I hate the idea of him being like, okay even if i got the pills like i'm not going to take them unless i find more information on it it's like what just don't take them even if you i'm not gonna take them unless i look at them and think about it and then take them then i'll do it and you can follow on my blog link in the description this episode is sponsored by hollow socks throughout the day your feet are stuck in a game of hot and cold freezing one minute and claiming the next thankfully hollow socks is here to change the game.
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53:24What about the guy shoving out? Destiny doesn't choose its heroes.
53:34What were you about to say? Nothing. I heard you say something about a guy shoving something. There's a thought. No, I think you should continue with whatever that was. Well, we pretty much ruled out the possibility that it's a prank by the admins i don't think hg wishing wells would carry on a joke this long nor would he lie so blatantly and even if one of the other admins would prank me i can't imagine they would do it with some russian supplement pitch it's just all too strange i also want to point out that as soon as you figured out that guy was an admin you switched into that voice well i was also like oh my god i'm i have three voices i can do it i'm like now they're bringing in a fourth guy oh boy here we go here here we go he better be a stereotype
54:22october 30th 2014. last night i had a buddy of mine delivered the mail to my doorstep in exchange for some coding work on his flash site i'll do just about anything to avoid leaving the building but that's not the point point is that i received an envelope with no return address and I immediately knew who it was from. That's interesting. The little side notes about him being afraid of people and stuff like that. He didn't really present it in context. It just kind of comes up. It feels like it's very intentional the way it keeps getting jabbed in. Yeah, yeah. It was old, very old. Like it'd been sitting in a dusty attic for decades.
55:01I opened the stained envelope only to find a smaller manila envelope inside. Also rather old looking. inscribed on the small envelope was the word necrosleep and a word of advice on storing the packet in a cool dark place for maximum potency the words appeared to have been stamped onto the envelope rather than printed i opened the small envelope sure enough there were 30 black pills inside more crude than what you might get from your local pharmacy now before you all start freaking out i'm not gonna take these at least not until i can dig up some more reliable information on them i hate them there it is i i hate i hate you so much read now i know that these russian dope dealers were just trying to send me junk mail the question is why would they send me the pills if they don't actually work surely they must want my money which they wouldn't get after a failed 30-day trial what if they're trying to kill me i never did have a good feeling about any of this but the curiosity is killing me this guy just needs to be shot i can't stand him also i like that they're black pills it does make it seem like reed's just going to become an ultimate doom pillar yeah he takes one what the point billions must die what's even the point of us even trying to put up the sleep but nothing ever happens this is just we might as well just give up That never happens.
56:27We might as well. Billions must die. October 31st, 2014. Halloween. It just occurred to me that I completely overlooked something. I never researched Dr. Hale A. Stan. Oh, perfect. Here he comes. The guy who apparently had something to do with necrosleep. So I did a quick Google search and found, much to my surprise, that he had his own article on Wikipedia. the article states that dr stan was a ukrainian scientist and physician he claimed to have been directly involved in the experiments portrayed in a 1940 motion picture which documented soviet research into the resuscitation of clinically dead organisms here's an excerpt from the article this is uh this thing about the dog heads is real by the way yeah i was gonna say i'm looking at right now the video is um a real video they did which is is kind of graphic but they took dogs heads that have been decapitated and they pumped them with blood to get them to temporarily be alive or at least look alive and they reacted to noise and they flinched it's pretty unsettling very unsettling video yeah well it's decapitated dogs I would say it's kind of creepy well yeah but just the flinching and stuff and everything i don't know yeah the way they're moving and stuff like that yeah it was the idea of the experiment was that eventually if we better understood like what keeps people alive resuscitation there could be a way to save people there was a theory for a while that someone had like a chronic disease uh like a cancer or something that was riddled their body and they die from could there be a way to perform like a head transplant right this worked right um stuff like that which is interesting idea but pretty macabre experiments so anyway the motion picture experiments in the revival of organisms depicts various disturbing medical experiments conducted on canines one of which involves keeping a dog's decapitated head alive with a primitive autojector machine that supplied it with oxygenated blood the operations in the film were credited to Dr.
58:37Sergey Bruchhonenko. However, Dr. Hale Stan incessantly claimed to be the one who really conducted the experiments and invented the autojector, and that they only credited Bruchhonenko because Stan was sentenced to life in prison for illegally conducting gruesome experiments on humans. You know, like you do. He believed that because he had consent from his test subjects, albeit it through bribery, yet not committed an immoral crime. The Linden Prize was awarded to Brachon & Co. for the auto-jector, while Stan remained in permanent imprisonment. It wasn't until they discovered the lost footage of his morbid human experiments that they had him executed by lethal injection.
59:22His last words, spoken in an unidentified language, died with him. Dr. Haley Stan was rumored to have pioneered a variety of cures for major conditions such as narcolepsy and epilepsy. However, the results were not published in a scientific manner, and therefore the majority of his alleged accomplishments were unverifiable, as well as seemingly occult in nature. The number of people he apparently cured of various incurable afflictions between 1930 and 1940 was in the thousands. Attempts to replicate his documented remedies ultimately failed, leading most to believe he was practicing pseudoscience.
1:00:00It's believed by some that Dr. Haley Stan was following, has a following to this day, and that his miracle cures are still being practiced and peddled from Russia and Ukraine. Some claim to have received mysterious emails and offers pertaining to Dr. Haley Stan's work. All investigations revealed no evidence to support these claims. um that so i imagine the idea there is that he was a healer through witchcraft or like occult worship and stuff like that um and that's why it can never be replicated because the missing ingredient was the the magic or the um the the witchery of it mama mama wipe my butt because this is stinky
1:00:53what did you like that well what was that just a kind of a way for me to signify that i thought that was just stinky didn't really like that oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah well you know you're being good i will admit this is good hunter compared to old hunter this is good i am trying to i'm trying to keep the you know what it is is i i'm legitimately pretty interested in this weird dark web. I don't really know what the dark web is. Do you think the dark web is really that touched upon in terms of horror stories? I know that there's some that we've done but not enough, right?
1:01:32I would say in the grand scheme of things we have not read a lot. I remember the hidden web page and stuff like that. I'm not saying that it's not totally untouched but I'm just saying that this idea of a dark web forum is legitimately creepy. Also, it's a thing, too, that's like this is a real thing that could happen in real life, you know? Every time that I see the word Dr. Hale A. Stan, I want to drive my fucking fist through my monitor. So I'm just trying to juggle these emotions I'm feeling. Right. That's fair. And again, I'm going to say again, you're doing good. And I'm proud of you. You're being very brave right now.
1:02:13And I know this is hard for you. uh so but but your your monitor didn't hurt you um and the story has good elements like the the email stuff like that right um i feel like you could get rid of all the doctor stuff and if it was just uh if it was all anonymous people on the internet to me that's just uh so much with what kind of what i want you to do i want you to i want you to do something i want you to I want you to put your hands forward like on the size of your keyboard and I want you to close your eyes okay are you doing that yep okay now I'm doing the same so it's like it's it's like through the screen we're holding hands right now okay yeah all right I want you I want you to imagine looking into my eyes I'm doing it and I'm saying this isn't you Hmm.
1:03:05if we could build the world together
1:03:13did that help it did make you feel better i feel better that's good that's good all right we'll continue the story i can't wait to watch the recording back and you're just like like when i did that just completely bent over pants pulled down yeah i'm goateeing the camera no i'm looking yeah i'm looking no i'm definitely looking for real i'm looking i was doing that uh i had my pants down i spread my ass my ass cheeks open my asshole was there and i was singing that song from Looney Tunes that Frog does. Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey.
1:03:48That's what I was doing. And I was puffing my cigar, too, for my asshole. Perfect. He was doing that. Perfect. I couldn't tell a difference. So, you know. November 1st, 2014. I'm holding the pill in my hand, ready to take it at a moment's notice. I hate you, Reed. Here he is. Here he goes. I've been thinking hard about this. I know it's not the safest thing to do, but I'm a risk tanker. If this turns out badly, I don't have much to live for anyways. Life's nothing without danger. And I want to know the motives of these people more than anything. Don't you stay inside all day? Life's nothing without danger.
1:04:27Life's nothing without danger. Says the man who won't step outside of the house. He's afraid to go outside. Dude, fuck yourself, Reed. Fuck this guy. I fucking hate Reed. Maniac, maniac on the floor. Life is nothing without danger. And I want to know the motives of these people more than anything. He's listening to Kenny Loggins on his bed wearing sunglasses. Life's nothing without danger. I can't believe I woke up today. Danger. There's a bed sheet stapled to the window. Life's nothing without danger. Yeah, I'm going to pick my nose and put it on my booger wall. Danger. That's like Asmongold's blood wall.
1:05:10I think about that all the time. Do you remember that? No. He posted a photo of his old bedroom. He's like, can't believe I started here. And there was blood all over the wall. And someone was like, what's with the blood on the wall? And he replied and said, I used to have a condition where my gums would bleed. So when I woke up in the morning, I would just wipe it on the wall. It's pretty gross. It's like, what the? Pretty nasty.
1:05:42The blood. You like that, Isaiah? It's like, are you an animal? What are you doing? That's the kind of thing I would worry about, like, a pet rabbit doing in its cage all day. It's like, oh, it got more mouth blood on the wall. What's wrong with you? I need to know what they want from me I need to know what I'm missing there's only one way to find out November 3rd, 2014 I can't believe it it's actually working I haven't slept in three days and I don't feel remotely tired holy hell I've never felt so focused and stimulated in my life I don't know what's in this stuff but it works I don't know how long it's going to work exactly so I'm not going to get my hopes up but the claim is that I'll never need to sleep again ever so far.
1:06:35So good. So, okay. Is he, is he just staying awake nonstop in his room and his one room, just not stepping outside. I mean, I think that's the assumption. Yeah. Is that he's just like, I'm just awake every day in my apartment. What a cool reason to stay up for nonstop to do nothing. Life is dangerous. And then like, it's not life without dangers. Yeah. way to the danger zone.
1:07:09As he scrapes blood on the blood wall. Take me under your mind. I'm just thinking about a guy who wakes up and smears blood on the wall. It's fucking disgusting. He's listening to the Top Gun soundtrack. And he just like for 48 hours straight, he's just setting up on the side of his bed, like bobbing his head and like, yeah, yeah. Life's danger. Yeah. It's going to be a good day. Going to be a big day. Good day. No sunlight getting in entirely like strobing LEDs flickering to support his stupid little life. He's making me so mad that I'm, that's funny. we really don't even know I know that he does like odd jobs I mean I guess he does surveys he does he just gets to like stock up on doing a bunch of like odd jobs I guess is his motive is his motivation I guess he's like wow I made I made a hundred and ten dollars today we're balling now moving up in the world I got kicked out of my parents house for smoking crack I need a mighty wings across the sky
1:08:34it's like throws up on himself just leaves it take my breath away
1:08:46he's got aviators on cut off sleeve jean vest with no shirt underneath just like yeah rise and shine time to grind gets on this board to talk about how excited he is to do nothing I hate him. Read it. Read it. It's a hard to like fella. I will say he gives, he gives off David King vibes is the problem. He does. He does. There's a lot of that where it's like, what is all this energy for? What are you doing with it? Nothing. And then like he, he gets, he's like, I'm not going to take this pill unless I find more info. I'm not going to take it. And it keeps talking about finding more info, never typed in the name of the guy.
1:09:27The only information he has to go with. he talks about yeah tomorrow I'm going to Google what are you doing today not that you can't type this into Google and then he does he's like yeah someone was playing a farming game I don't know and then two weeks later he's like oh yeah I should probably look up the name of this guy I wish I could find more info about it and then he gets the pill and he's like I'm not going to take this unless I get more info oh I found more info this guy got executed for doing death experiments good enough for me I'm going to take it and he's just setting up non-stop like Like, also, to be fair, he did not.
1:10:04He didn't say where he found it. He said, I'm holding the pill in my hand. So it's just after the after he found out about, yeah, the doctor. It was like, well, what did you even what did you even find that made you? He found out the dude was like an occult practicer. He's like, yeah, that's OK. I'll take it. That's fine. So I can stay up and do nothing. You could argue that the that the hail a Satan supposedly supposedly healed thousands of people. So he's like, well, I mean, he did, he did do good work, I guess. Yeah. In pseudoscience, that's almost definitely right. Here's what gets me. If this guy had a motivation where it's like, oh, I'm trying to take care of my family.
1:10:47And I just need to, I've, I'm going to lose one of these jobs if I can. And I've been, I've been working double shifts and I can't sleep only so many hours in the day, something like that. Right. then I would kind of be like, well, yeah, he sees this pill as a way to, you know, take care of himself, take care of his family, things like that. But this guy's doing nothing. Yeah. Being a chronically online guy who admits that he's like, I really don't have a lot going on. I ain't got a lot going on. But also his whole reason for staying up at night is because he fears day and he fears people. Now he has to be awake during the day.
1:11:21Rule number five. I don't need a list. My freaking ways. Rule number five, who needs rules? Not me. Not this guy. My gosh. Okay. I can't stand him. Or his blood wall. November 4th, 2014. Still works like a charm after four days. But lately, the light's been really bothering me. So I duct tape a piece of cardboard over the window. I never liked that window anyways. At night, I get this feeling that I'm being watched from outside. and it's been making me anxious more than usual. It's easy to think you're seeing something uncanny out the window until you realize it's just your own reflection distorted by the cheap glass pane.
1:12:05Anyways, that issue's been resolved. I also found something interesting when I was taking my nightly pills. Until recently, I failed to notice a symbol stamped on the side of the small manila envelope. Yes, the inside. I know I've seen the symbol before but I can't remember where exactly it's a downward pointing oh my god it's a downward pointing pentagram with what I think is a goat's head inscribed within it oh my god kill me kill me this next sentence is even better maybe they just reused an old envelope and turned it inside out or something you know the people who have the the goat head the satanic pentagram seals from hail a stand from hail a stand that thing i said earlier about just scroll and find pasta of the month um in 2014 this was special in 2014 this was like oh the devil did it it's like we didn't have a lot to work on but now also like on november 4th he was like anyone else hate seeing their reflection anybody else hate looking in the mirrors I better put a piece of con board up so I can't see myself what is this a pentagon with a goat head from Dr.
1:13:33Haley Stan geez louise check this out I think I just read the first read the first sentence of the next fucking post November 5th 2014 thanks to one of my followers for pointing out something i didn't realize the emblem inside the envelope was actually satanic symbol yeah needless to say i'm definitely not taking this crap anymore all right
1:14:07you know this is you know this is yeah this is this is cosmic mockery to me because in the delorier invitation it was like it was the way i want the satanic you know like the right angle speaking through technology like the um the higher order stuff like that's what i'm all about right but but the universe was like oh you like that you like that well how about how about dr haley stan and how about uh he finds out that the pills that make you awake forever is satanic and his response is yeah needless to say i'm definitely not taking this crap anymore i uh whatever i'm dead inside what yeah what what whatever whatever um yeah needless to say i'm so mad at him not even the story necessarily it's like i was around in 2014.
1:15:07This was, these were the hits people were listening to. We didn't have a lot going on. Uh, I'm not even necessarily mad at him. I'm mad at the character. I'm mad at Reed as a concept. That's what's got me fired up. This sort of thing really creeps me out. I'm done. I wish it would have read that message before I took it tonight. I'll just quit tomorrow. I mean, and has an army thus far and I feel great. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. It's just a symbol. Probably a printing mistake or something. What does that even mean? The printer accidentally printed a goat's head in a pittagraph. I'd be more scared if it was a printer mistake.
1:15:49That's already scarier. That's way worse than someone doing it on purpose. What the fuck? Yeah, I was trying to print out Crazy Frog, but I just spread the with Baphomet's head what
1:16:06ding ding ding ding ding ding you know you know what now that you've said that that's what I imagine this guy knows this time he said he gets up he doesn't get out of bed he sits up in his bed wipes blood on the blood wall opens up his laptop pulls up crazy frog and then listens to the Top Gun soundtrack with shades on that's it's all day that's what he needs to stay awake for that i'll you know some grace i'll give the story that i i think i'm reaching here but maybe with his mention of paranoia like looking out the window and stuff like that maybe he wants to stay awake because he's afraid that someone will watch him or come to him when he goes to sleep right so maybe but screw that i'm not messing around with demonic affairs no way in hell I'll get it.
1:16:54Hell's capitalized. Get it, Hunter. Get it like hell, like the place, because now it's demonic. Get it. You get it. November 6, 2014. Over the past week, I've been taking one of these pills at exactly 10 p.m. each night. I planned on stopping the pills tonight, but around 1030, I started getting this horrible headache and got progressively worse. I was thinking maybe it was just me adjusting to suddenly going off necrosleep. So I waited another hour and I just couldn't take it anymore. I took another pill. I know I could quit if I wanted to, but I'm starting to think that there's no reason to.
1:17:32I mean, I don't have to sleep anymore. I've been feeling energized. I should just man up and stop being irrational. Yeah. Yeah. You're being irrational now. I like this. I'm sorry. I know it's demonic, but I'm starting to think there's no reason to. I'm starting to I don't care about that. That's fine. November 9th, 2014. I've been making a killing with all this free time and newfound focus. I've made five grand in a single day of trading virtual property. This is not including my online poker proceeds over the last week, which are through the roof. Suddenly, I have this intuitive grasp of numbers that I never had before.
1:18:11I've been living my life in a daze until now. They were right. This really is changing my life. so so it's like he uh it's like this pill or something the limitless pill it's like the hail a stand limitless pill with a little goat on it the slender man limitless pill is what it's pretty much is what this concept is pretty fun also yeah i yeah november 11th november 11th here's a rather peculiar story for you guys i was sitting on the couch minding my own business when I noticed a couple of gleaming eyes staring at me from the dark corner please have horns please be the devil and he just writes it off I thought nothing of it knowing it must have been twigs skulking about oh yeah he had a cat that hasn't come up this whole time I totally forgot about the cat the bald cat yeah he hasn't mentioned it once he set it up in the beginning because there's gonna be some payoff with it dying or being one like one of the headless dogs or whatever but he doesn't mention it until now i thought nothing of it knowing it must have been twig skulking about cats have reflective eyes who else would it be i looked away and at the very same moment i felt it twig's wrinkly little self curling up next to me i looked back toward the corner speedy eyes still fixed upon me with twig clearly at my side i blinked and the eyes were gone man my brain's really trying to screw with me it had to have been mental yet i remember it was such lucidity come to think of it i should have known it wasn't twig from the start cat's eyes don't glow red red glowing eyes i i can't i'm you know lucidity is a big word for reed that took a lot I'm proud of him for that one lucidity is a big word for me too so me and reader in the same boat anyways let's hope it was just a freak brain malfunction after all what else could it possibly be could it have been my little person neighbor that just snuck into my house like what are you talking about read sorry my brain is kind of the leprechaun he keeps asking for my pot of gold and i'm trying to gamble it away november 12 2014 i'm gonna run out of food eventually obviously i could go to the store and restock myself but the thought scares me the thought of leaving the safety of my apartment thought of social interaction i now dread it more than i ever have i never have preferred going out, staying in, but I've never dreaded it this much.
1:20:51I wasn't always so terribly afraid. None of my instant messenger friends have been online lately, and they stopped upvoting my blog post. Who's going to get my groceries if I have to go out there? I shouldn't be panicking like this, honestly. I'm being stupid. Stop panicking, you idiot. Stop panicking, you idiot. Stop panicking, you idiot i just want to say that that little section of character development or understanding read is significantly better than anything like even this idea of a guy getting drugs off the dark web and like going insane in his apartment is more interesting in my opinion but once again it's not over i don't know where yes i think um i think third
1:21:46my brain completely just shut up i'm i'm so i was so checked out of this story um november 13th i yeah yeah november 13th there we go thank you um yeah that that was more that was more impactful than any of the demonic heli stand stuff we spent time on or anything like that. November 13th, 2014. My friend Jake came online. It was a temporary relief that lasted about as long as it took him to say, I'm not dropping off the food until you agree to get out of the house. That was his offer, telling that I'll leave the house and go clubbing with the guys in exchange for help. I declined out of pure fear.
1:22:26He was worried for my health, apparently. I can't blame him for thinking I'm becoming a feral hermit doomed to die alone in this pathetic slum but he just doesn't understand nobody understands me at least i'm pretty sure i got enough food to last till thanksgiving if i stretch it november 15th i need to tell you all about a strange experience i had yesterday i've been leaving my tv on lately so that the silence doesn't irritate me that children's show bucko's garden was on you know the one we all watched as kids until we were mature enough to realize how mindless and nonsensical it was. Yeah, that show.
1:23:02It was playing in the background on my boxy old TV in the corner. Eventually, it distracted me and I found myself zoning out into it for lack of better things to do. It must have been a Thanksgiving episode, considering Bucko, a guy dressed like a deer with a human face. Huh? Bucko's garden's not real, right? This is made up for the thing. I have no idea. I can look it up if you want. A deer with a... No, it's not real. A deer with a hue... Okay. Was in the kitchen preparing sweet potatoes and cranberries. This is about as intelligible as the show gets. Things got a bit weird when he decided to let the anthropomorphic cranberries go into his garden at the last minute, as if they were captive insects.
1:23:48The sweet potatoes weren't so lucky. Bucko sent his bird friends to retrieve a pumpkin pie from the pie tree, and his squirrel friends to collect gravy from the gravy cow, who coincidentally regurgitates mashed potatoes to boot. I told you the show was weird, but that's not even the start. I didn't realize something was off until Bucko pulled out a knife. A full-fledged, razor-sharp knife that you wouldn't expect to see in such a benign show. With his other hand, he opened the oven and pulled it out. Not a ham, not a turkey, a roasted human fetus. Mother of God. I couldn't even believe what I was seeing.
1:24:30How on earth could this be allowed on television? Were my eyes deceiving me? I don't know, but I turned it off as soon as he started cutting into it. The gore was too much, even for me. Still having a hard time believing what my own eyes clearly saw. I couldn't have been dreaming. I haven't had so much as a nap in 15 days. I just... I don't even know. Maybe something's wrong with me. I've been forgetting my PC login password even after I changed it to something else and wrote it down I forgot where I wrote it down where I wrote it forgot it down I can't even think properly now I like this so much more than the demonic stuff I've been writing down some notes this is a more interesting thing I've been writing down some stuff but I didn't want to derail the story November 18th 2014 I'm not going to lie I'm scared out of my mind right now I walked into the bathroom planning to take my first shower in weeks I never imagined I'd open the door and see anything more than my own reflection in the mirror instead I saw it standing behind me staring completely motionless I froze and panicked more than I ever have in my entire life I swear you don't know true fear you don't even have a clue I can still see it engraved in my mind the face it was demonic it was gone as soon as it came i'd say i was just imagining things but it felt all too real i'm not going into the bathroom ever again i'll just go in the kitchen sink or something i can't handle this i wonder if these pills are screwing with my head i need to stop i need to stop now i don't even feel safe in my own apartment anymore i feel like the shadows are watching me.
1:26:19November 20th, 2014. I tried to stop the pills again, but I had a change of heart at the last minute. This is something told me not to, like a voice in my head. I just feel like it would be wrong and somehow my life would fall apart if I stopped. I don't think this is normal, the way I'm living, but I can't imagine it in any other way. I can't imagine stepping out into the light or even the moonlight for that matter all of my instant messenger contacts have been offline since shake talk to be last and i don't know if my food will last another week twig's getting pretty skinny since i've been eating her cat food to stretch my supplies a bit but she'll be okay as long as someone comes online by thanksgiving speaking of which nobody invited me over for thanksgiving dinner not even my family but that's okay i hate my parents anyways screw them uh yeah this is so this is an infinitely better story right now november 22nd 2014 i've been hearing more voices inside of my head horrible voices it's really scaring me and i don't know what to do is it some sort of side effect or something i can't hear myself think sometimes like i'm losing control over my own thoughts and these thoughts i have are so dark it's not like me to think that way.
1:27:40I would never hurt anyone. I'm not like that. I tried going to necrosleep.net again just to see if there's something I missed about side effects. It said the domain's no longer in use. The site was shut down. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm terrified of myself. November 24th. Knock, knock. I yelled through the drafty door asking who it was. It was my friends, Jake and Douglas. Apparently they wanted to help me after seeing my blog post of distress, but sure enough it was only under the condition that I opened the door and come out. Very suspicious. How do I really know I can trust them? I know I've trusted them for years but what if they were just hurting my trust and they could pull something more sinister later on?
1:28:22What if they give me drug food? What if they stab me when I open the door? It just occurred to me that I have no real proof that I can trust them. I can't even trust myself anymore i don't even know who i am maybe my whole life i've been a sadistic freak and i didn't even know it maybe my true self is just now coming out maybe everyone's evil this is gosh this is so much this reminds me of uh what's the story of the guy who everyone had been replaced by aliens or whatever yeah and he was in his apartment you know what i'm talking about yeah i can't i can't remember which one it is but i know what you're talking about psychosis that's it yeah uh this is very similar to psychosis uh yeah yeah i like this a lot more it would be gosh it'd be so much easier if you just took out the same stuff like all mentions of it and then you just throw in earlier in the story there's a blog post where he says something like i i'm afraid of what happens when i go to sleep i'm afraid someone will come just give him a bit more paranoid and let him say something like that on the internet before the invite shows up as if it detected him say something like that you know i think um yeah i have a bunch of stuff written down i'm just gonna wait till the end okay november 25th 2014 the voices won't stop i used to think they were malevolent but now i'm not so sure sometimes it feels like they're trying to liberate me they want me to listen to them desperately and show me things horrible things and yet these things don't seem horrible to me anymore i'm numb i don't feel anything but i know there's one thing i could do to make me feel again part of me says it's terribly wrong but the voices tell me otherwise the voices are friends now the demons are my friends all right final post november 26 2014 twigs in heaven now i had to do it i had to know what it tasted like it was good but it was satisfying but i need more i thought i'd never leave this room again but i don't have a choice anymore i need more of it the face is getting angry the voices are getting angry my head hurts so bad i need more it hurts so much i need more They're hurting me.
1:30:48I need to feed them more. They need more. I need more. I have to make it stop. I need more. I need more. Make it stop. Police Report Part 1. Thanksgiving, November 27, 2014. Victim, Paul Murdoch. Aggressor, Reed Murdoch. Police arrived on the scene after a frantic 911 call from Margaret Murdoch, confirmed to be the aggressor's mother. The victim, Paul Murdoch, the aggressor's father, was found in the process of being mauled and cannibalized by the aggressor, Reed Murdoch, whose face and mouth was covered in blood and brain matter. Reed was shot dead after refusing to stop eating his own father, whose skull was torn open entirely.
1:31:29Drug use is suspected to be involved. Police Report, Part 2, November 29th. Reed Murdoch's residence was inspected thoroughly by investigators. A hairless, headless, and disemboweled cat carcass was found on the kitchen counter. The cat's blood and bodily fluids were spilled throughout the house, while the head was found crushed, the brain having been completely removed and nowhere to be found. The apartment was clearly inhabited by an utterly insane individual, given the foul and uncleanly nature of the place. An old TV rested in the corner, turned on, displaying only static and white noise. It had no antenna.
1:32:10a suspicious packet of unidentified pills was recovered the resident's computer and other personal effects were confiscated and await further analysis okay that's a that's from candle cove but i like that that's awesome that he was watching a static screen but the pill was showing him yeah the actual the kid show with the blood yeah yeah yeah that's again that's a point pulled from candle cove but i like it autopsy report december 4th, 2014. Subject, Reed Murdoch. The contents of Reed Murdoch's digestive tract were a disturbing mixture of human tissue, mostly brain matter, and cerebrospinal fluid.
1:32:48Examination of his own brain, however, was even more disturbing and perplexing. It was clearly and visibly deteriorating. The tissue was black and red rather than the usual pinkish gray and riddled with holes throughout. Closer examination revealed thousands of small plaque parasites to be consuming the brain. This was undoubtedly the cause of the man's insidious psychosis. Testing on the parasites was inconclusive as they didn't match any known species. Further testing is required. The unowned pills recovered from Murdoch's department have been tested and confirmed to contain a vile plethora of uncommon substances, including obscure, highly addictive euphoric drugs, human hormones and parasitic eggs presumably meant to remain dormant in a cool place until introduced into the body allowing them to hatch and eventually invade the brain it's unclear how murdoch acquired the pills and where they came from although whoever concocted them surely had malicious intent police report 3 december 6 2014 two friends of reed murdoch jake fairfax and Douglas Lopez were questioned at the police station.
1:33:57Immediately, they referred to his online blog, where he allegedly recorded his path to eventual insanity. It was found that the blog had mysteriously disappeared off the face of the internet for reasons unknown. They were aware of the unknown pills Reed was taking, claiming they originated from the website necrosleep.net. Investigators later confirmed the website does not exist. that is the end of necrosleep isaiah i mean like uh at what point i mean we had the we were kind of clowning on it a bit i mean from very early on i was kind of like i don't know i feel like this is one of the few times a story has had shaky ground and kind of course corrected for like kind of stuck a little bit of a landing what do you think yeah it did course correct i think um i think i think the all the demonic stuff weighs it and here's really why the demonic stuff weighs it down so much it's so uninteresting yeah when you make it just demonic but it's not a story about demons or witchcraft or the satanic because then it's like oh well uh the thing that is causing all this is the icon of evil so it doesn't need motivation or purpose or mystery it's just bad It's like the essence of badness is what's doing this.
1:35:18So it's like, okay, well, that kind of defeats anything interesting or in-depth you could do with it. If I pretend like the Satan stuff doesn't exist, then it's very effective. I personally really like the detail that the pills were parasite capsules. I think that, and it's because imagine this, imagine they got the weird invite from the website, keeps you awake. He's super awake, then he dies. And then they do the investigations. He's full of parasites. And if we didn't know who sent it, that raises all kinds of questions. It's like, oh, is this a group that's trying to maybe create some drug to turn people into psychopaths?
1:35:54Or maybe this is an occult practice. Or maybe it's an experiment done by some secret facility to see what the parasites do to people. And because they know it keeps them awake, but they see if they want to see if there's any side effects before they sell it. Or you could take so many different options with it. but because we have the occult setup, which the occult thing doesn't even tie into the satanic setup. Like why would an occult group just send out parasites to people? It makes more sense without that addition. I would imagine this was, but I like the idea of the pills being parasites. I imagine this was written with the intent that like the occult angle gives it a bit of mystique or it gives it like a, it gives it the quote unquote horror element that maybe the author feel like it feels like it needed.
1:36:37You know what I mean? like it's the kind of cherry visual is what I would assume I think personally the pills being parasitic or whatever I think it's okay I think like this is this could have been a really this could have been a really interesting story and of course hindsight's 2020 this is also from you know 12 years ago so a different landscape to an extent but the extreme isolation leading to mental insanity angle, I think is, um, a more interesting character archetype of kind of where I think a lot of people now, even with, um, even with people doing like stay at home jobs and it becoming more and more hard for people to communicate with each other.
1:37:29Um, and I think even just the rise of like, you know, almost like the Hikikomori incel kind of, uh, just like chronically online at home, not wanting a lot of actual physical interactions with people, isolation and, you know, uh, loneliness, like the loneliness epidemic and stuff. I think like an angle like that could have done really well with this show and this, or with this, sorry, with the show, with this story. And I liked the format of the story being a person doing blogs. It's a person. So obviously trying to connect with somebody that they feel like they cannot connect with i think they're kind of like it's like kind of throwing it out into the void even if they aren't consciously trying to like reach out to someone it's like a perfect little setup for somebody actually wanting to have someone connect with them and like understand them in a really fun way where them being in like a you know i was saying like dark web even if it wasn't dark web it's it's it's like another fun and i'm always obsessed with i think i'm like i'm I've been really obsessed with this idea of like, um, there's that movie.
1:38:38That's a remake from the, in the seventies. I think it's a remake of the, this movie from the fifties invasion of the body snatchers, which is like kind of, kind of gives the, um, it's the theme of a movie being, do you really know? Do you know the people that you surround yourself with is the kind of, uh, is the kind of concept or theme of the movie. And it's, I think that that like translates really well today with these people that you're befriending online. Do you really know who they are? And I think like who you associate with and the things that you consume, uh, albeit media, but this could be an actual physical, like metaphor for the things that you're consuming that are like rotting your brain.
1:39:14Or it could be a thing that's like, you know, becoming the parasite that's growing inside of your head. Something like that could be kind of cool. I mean, you know, on the surface, it sounds a bit maybe stupid, but I like my mind was kind of going to those places like, Oh, that'd be kind of fun. And then if it is a thing where it's about a guy, transcribing his insanity trying to like reach anyone through his own means of I guess like the way that he would conversate with people which is avoiding outside all of the parts where he was talking about the little peppering of like well I don't I'd prefer not to go outside these little character moments of made the character a lot more sympathetic to me of like this is just like a very fragile person who is who's like pretty like injured right now has a strained relationship with their family obviously and even the ending i thought it was fun where it's like well then the like the only like real victim of the story is his dad to where we're not really given the whole context of like was he actually kicked out i don't know was his parents just kind of like were they trying to like include him into his life but he felt like there's just a lot of stuff that you could really roll uh creatively with these like little hints but all these little character moments make for such a stronger more impactful story in my opinion um but that was just a lot of the stuff i mean i kept writing down stuff like you know just uh when outside sources come in or like basically like if his friends came in if he's going insane all these things if you if you wanted that visual of like oh there's eyes looking at me or something could these be things that your brain is tricking you into thinking you know like are these are these innocent things that are actually in the real world but he has manifested them to be more evil or he can't like see clearly with how far he's gone you know i think like little things like that i think could have been really fun a grounded story into something like that i think is really fun versus it's really um and it's probably just because there's so much of it but it's really hard to stick the landing on a like this is a satanic story just because it's been done so much that it's like just takes that like you were saying It just takes the creative wind out of it and you're just like, oh, okay.
1:41:28Versus, you know, having a fun character story of a clearly socially awkward person trying to navigate life and then falling deep into a pit is something I think a lot of people could find relatable. And also it's just like a true thing that's like, this is like a nice, almost like Greek tragedy or cautionary tale of, of that. I'm done rambling but I you know I was my mind towards the end really did start being like oh this would be fun but this is kind of cool yeah you know and obviously we're too far gone to be able to like course correct entirely but my mind was like oh that's like a fun idea or this is like a fun way we could have gone so all in all you know one of the few times a story has started off and you're kind of rolling your eyes a bit to getting to a place where you're like oh that's that's actually pretty sweet so I'll give it I definitely will give it points there I think this is a very good first draft.
1:42:27I think that it needs to lose the satanic stuff because it defeats any complicated or interesting motivation. I think you hype up a little bit more that he wants to stay awake earlier and he makes a blog post about it, about why he doesn't want to sleep. It's because he's paranoid of what happens when he does go to sleep. I think you use the friends a bit more in the story. You introduce them as people who come to check on them more often. But like you said, he refers to their eyes. Maybe that night he looks at the glass pane and thinks he sees someone looking back. He thinks it could be his friend, showing that he doesn't even trust his friends.
1:43:07I think you mentioned the cat more often. I think eating the dad goes a little far, but I kind of like eating the cat. I feel like that is a step like that's a good last step before he tries to kill people because he's so hungry. The cat could be a I think the cat could have been a really great bridge between. Almost like it could have been something that's like his trust with the outside world or something or like this. It's the only thing he's communicating to in the story. Like, I think it should have been that should have been. yeah how is the the how is the cat almost showing us like the level of insanity of where he's at and even his like distrust in himself or other people yeah because or maybe like near the end when his friends come they're like hey where's the cat and he keeps not addressing it and then you find out he had eaten the cat but yeah i do think giving him more report or something i do think giving him more of a reason to be like well why why do i need to cut out the need for sleep what what is it what does he feel like he's missing out on i think would be like a good question to answer um and of course you know listen i mean 12 year old story i think we're just saying this in terms of like uh for anybody who might be writing something now or even just like food for thought of just a thought experiment it's just kind of fun to bridge this together to be like what would make this just a funner story so yeah yeah of course yeah but i think all in all I think it was interesting and I think it has legs.
1:44:35I would just like to see it go a little bit further to be a bit more interesting. Cause like I said, all the hell a stand and occultism stuff just kills any, any, any potential or imagination for complex motivation. It's hard to land, you know, and I love that kind of shit. I mean, I'm always a big sucker for it, but the, but it needs to be, there needs to be more like that. It needs to be a story about it so that you can build on it. Yeah. Rather than it being an unrelated story to occultism. And you're like, oh, well, the devil as like a, as like a throwaway explanation of why it's like, we really don't need that.
1:45:09Yeah. And also just in the importance of character and story, you got to care about, you got to, I got, I, you have to have a character where you're like, I, I want to root for this person or I want to know more about this person and stuff. And you know, all these things like you're saying of why does the person want to avoid sleep? Why? Like all of these like little personal touches of like, you know, the family, there's a conflict between the families there's this this incessant need to never want to go outside like this is an interesting character you're setting up but it ultimately just doesn't take you anywhere where i learned really much about the character besides hey i'm not going to take these pills and then the next day all right i'll take them like that doesn't really hook me um but you know fun idea you know uh but yeah that's our episode for today uh thank you so much for uh for watching if you listening on Spotify or Apple podcast or anywhere you listen to a fucking podcast, be sure to give us a nice rating if you enjoyed it.
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