In short
CreepCast does a “grab bag” of Japanese creepy pastas/urban legends, focusing on short, folk-horror-style stories where spirits or curses punish the listener or victim. They also discuss Japanese horror themes (especially bathroom/toilet ghosts) and share a personal “ghostly” experience from Osaka.
Guests
No guest interviewees are present in the transcript; it’s hosted by the regular CreepCast hosts (the speakers include Harry and Isaiah).
Key claims
- “Tomino’s Hell” is allegedly a 1919 poem (Saijo Yaso/Saijo Yasso) that became a creepypasta with a rumor that reading it aloud causes tragic events.
- “Hanako-san” is a well-known school-toilet ghost legend (often tied to the third floor/stall) with multiple warding methods.
- “Hashaku-sama” (8-feet-tall lady) is a tall, shape-shifting woman whose possession leads to death within days.
Notable examples
- Tomino’s Hell: elder sister vomits blood, younger sister breathes fire, Tomino falls into Buddhist hell (jigoku/Avici), with “seven mountains/river” imagery and “red pins” punishment.
- Hanako-san: A-Chan is trapped as the third-stall door locks; Hanako-san appears floating in a red skirt and bobbed hair.
- Hashaku-sama: a narrator sees a woman’s hat over a hedge; later grandparents say he’s been possessed by Hashaku-sama.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring Japanese Creepypastas
0:33 to 4:16
Discussion about Japanese creepypastas, their origins, and themes.
“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”
Personal Ghost Stories and Cultural Insights
4:16 to 6:22
Sharing personal experiences and cultural observations related to Japan.
“We were all just standing in like a circle, just chatting.”
Urban Legends and Their Impact
6:22 to 10:31
Discussion on various Japanese urban legends and their cultural significance.
“Yeah, this is an apology on behalf of the country.”
Tamino's Hell: A Japanese Poem
10:31 to 14:00
Reading and analyzing the poem 'Tamino's Hell' and its implications.
“I don't think I ever said the anime people.”
Exploring Tomino's Hell: The Poem and Its Origins
14:00 to 22:30
Delve into the dark themes of 'Tomino's Hell' and its haunting background.
“The poet was a university professor and lived in France for a time studying at the Soroban.”
The Emotional Weight of Tomino's Journey
22:30 to 23:10
Discover the symbolic relationship between Tomino and his sisters in the poem.
Analyzing the Structure and Meaning
23:10 to 27:00
Examine the poetic structure and deep meanings behind Tomino's journey to hell.
“How would you want two sentence horror to feel like that?”
Two-Sentence Horror and Its Impact
27:00 to 28:01
Understand the essence of effective horror storytelling in minimal words.
“the idea of like having a very short concise thing uh that means something more than just what the sentences say.”
Analyzing the Structure and Meaning
28:01 to 28:28
Examine the poetic structure and deep meanings behind Tomino's journey to hell.
“And the nice thing about ZocDoc is that you can filter for doctors that take your insurance are nearby and are highly rated.”
Transitioning Back to the Spooky Story
28:57 to 29:48
Prepare to return to the main discussion after the ad break.
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Introduction to Hanako-san
29:48 to 30:58
Explore the infamous Japanese urban legend of Hanako-san.
“Since then, her popularity has continued to be passed on to future generations.”
The Story of A-Chan and Hanako-san
30:58 to 33:28
Listen to the chilling tale of A-Chan encountering Hanako-san in a school toilet.
“Don't know how true that is, but now, would you like to read the story?”
Cultural Perspectives on Bathroom Ghost Stories
33:28 to 36:48
Discuss the universality of bathroom-related ghost stories across cultures.
“Yeah, that seems like a classic middle school horror story.”
Origins and Details of Hanako-san
36:48 to 39:58
Delve into the origins and variations of the Hanako-san legend.
“You're either taking a piss, a shit, or you're getting killed by a ghost.”
Hashaku-sama: The Eight-Foot Lady
39:58 to 42:00
Learn about the urban legend of Hashaku-sama and its characteristics.
“There's so many different stories that have been brought in from different regions of the world.”
The Legend of Hashaku-sama
42:00 to 47:50
Learn about the eerie legend of Hashaku-sama and its implications in Japanese horror.
“It's not that I won't go, but rather I can't go.”
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47:50 to 49:26
Discover the benefits of Harry's Razors and their special offer for listeners.
“I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor, Harry's Razors.”
The Encounter with Hashaku-sama
49:26 to 56:00
Experience a chilling story about a personal encounter with the Hashaku-sama.
“In this area, there was something called Shaku-sama.”
A Terrifying Encounter with Hushaku-sama
56:00 to 1:02:01
A chilling story recounting a close encounter with a supernatural entity.
“When I went downstairs, my father was also there.”
The Nature of Horror Stories
1:02:01 to 1:02:11
Discussion on the allure and elements of horror storytelling.
“Trying to confuse it as you drive out of the border that it can't pass.”
Kisaragi Station Mystery
1:02:11 to 1:05:55
Exploring the eerie tale of Kisaragi Station and its unsettling occurrences.
“Devlin, and she actually has a book called Kawabana True Japanese Scary Stories from Around the Internet, Volume 1.”
Descent into the Unknown
1:05:55 to 1:10:00
A conversation on the dangers of being lost and isolated in an eerie place.
“I believe they got off the train at 1140.”
Train Station Fears
1:10:00 to 1:11:28
Explore the eerie atmosphere of waiting alone at a train station at night.
“I didn't think they showed up till like 06, 07.”
The One-Legged Old Man
1:11:28 to 1:14:28
A chilling encounter with a mysterious old man at a train station.
“I do remember being like six or seven and playing on my parents' BlackBerry.”
Descent into the Unknown
1:14:28 to 1:16:50
The protagonist faces terrifying sounds and supernatural entities.
“Once you get out of there, call for help immediately.”
Crossing into the Spirit World
1:16:50 to 1:17:06
Discussion about how the story parallels classic themes in horror.
The White Thing in the Rice Fields
1:17:06 to 1:24:00
A creepy story about a mysterious white figure in the rice fields.
Creepy Storytelling: The White Thing
1:24:00 to 1:28:45
A chilling narrative unfolds involving a mysterious white entity and its impact on a family.
“I picked up the fallen binoculars and went to look.”
Analysis of Japanese Horror Legends
1:28:45 to 1:31:02
Discussion about various Japanese horror legends, exploring their themes and cultural significance.
“I'm just, I mean, also too, I really love just even the screenplay format of the, uh, or not screenplay, but just like, it's nothing but comments.”
Analysis of Japanese Horror Legends
1:31:34 to 1:32:59
Discussion about various Japanese horror legends, exploring their themes and cultural significance.
“appreciation for it the Japanese can forgive Hunter we'll see we'll find out we'll see if he murders any more women time will tell bye Thank you.”
Transcript
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1:14welcome back to creepcast today we're going to be doing something pretty special this is the uh some of the best japanese uh cultural creepypastas out there we're doing a big grab bag all japanese creepypastas very very excited uh and i know that to japan today we are going to japan and i know that the uh there's some that are on here that i know that are pretty uh i would say pretty popular or at least like some of the more well-known ones like i know the first one we're going to read is uh tamino's hell i feel like that's like a pretty well-renowned one i feel like i've seen that one a lot on like the creepypasta websites and stuff when it's been reoccurring yeah so i don't know which the story of it's so muddled now i don't know if the legend around the creepypasta is true but supposedly it's not a creepypasta it's a poem from like the 1910 pins um so and it's just like made its way into creepypasta culture but that could also be the creepypasta just saying that i don't know uh but yeah there's a bunch of weird japanese ones that it's interesting because a lot of the more popular american ones are long kind of goofy about a killer a lot of the japanese ones are like yeah this is a spirit that kills you sucks for you good luck i really don't know if there's anybody better at uh which may be a controversial take I don't know.
2:32I don't know if there's anybody better at folklore or folk horror urban legends than Japanese storytelling. I feel like it's always the best. At least it's always my favorite, if I'm being honest. Anytime I read about a Japanese cryptid or a Japanese story of a town or something, it's like, yeah, well, the devil lives here and it's going to kill everyone you've ever met. Get ready. They don't pull any punches. I love how superstitious the culture is in general. Like it really adds like that kind of belief system, I think really translates really well into, into all of the writing and art that they do.
3:13So I'm very excited. I mean, even this first one here that we're reading called Tomino's hell, it's literally about a Japanese poem that like you are not supposed to read out loud. That's like, and like that within itself, I'm sure fucked up so many people. Cause they're like, what, you know, like that. Oh yeah. Like superstitious. I'm like, I'm not going to do that. As with most of these stories, me when I was 12. Yes. Yeah. It's like, oh, well, how fun is that? And I love that. I feel like a lot of these are pretty old too. Right. Yeah. A lot of these are, we're doing a big grab back today. I mean, a lot of these, like the read time is very short, but you know, I think with the kind of obvious detours we normally take, it'll be fine.
3:51But the, yeah, a lot of these, it's just like that, that classic old creepypasta, very short very punchy uh format which i do think lends to these very quick folk tale urban legend vibes that uh yeah that the japanese stories tend to take so i'm pretty excited yeah i'm excited as well and you uh you have some you know background with japanese horror because you murdered a japanese woman that is that is what i japanese that is what i see i see that a lot in comments now um right my trip to japan well you posed a very weird hypothetical you well you posed a very weird hypothetical to me that sounded kind of suspicious after murdering a japanese woman have you encountered any spirits uh that has yet to happen i when i was in japan though for people who are a fan of my channel pop meet on youtube please check it out uh i did we did yourself no no no definitely not but on youtube uh youtube.com what i did what did happen though is for people that don't know i did go to japan uh bound almost two years ago now good lord time flies the uh and when i was there i had i would say kind of a ghostly experience oh yeah and i we were in we were in osaka and we were at this intersection of this like basically shopping market area outside you know and we came across this man who kind of came up to us with this ikea bag I forgot what he said.
5:19What did he say? He said, oh yeah, that's what he said. He said, I sorry. That's what he said. He came up to us. Big crowded area. We were all just standing in like a circle, just chatting. This man walks up to us and he looks us dead in the eyes or he looks at Harry dead in the eyes, I should say. And he says, I sorry. Like that. And like, as if like, excuse me, you know, in a weird way. And we were like, oh, no problem. And it was just very haunting. and then he like kind of like barely walked past us his like sandals scraping on the ground we kind of looked at each other and we were just like what the fuck is this and I'm not even joking Isaiah when I tell you that we turned and he was gone and it wasn't like a busy like big big crowd I mean like gone gone gone not there anymore blown away in the wind I have no idea where the fuck he went but that was that that really stuck with us at one time in new york i saw a chinese man throw a cigarette at a seagull and it died which one so that's kind of it's kind of like a spirit the seagull died yeah yeah that must have been a powerful flick well no just kind of it's kind of bounced off of him and just kind of fell over that's what i mean it was kind of spiritual you know um so is it possible that the japanese man recognized Harry as Korean and was like, oh, I'm sorry for what we did to you.
6:46Yeah, this is an apology on behalf of the country. Or alternative, he mistook Harry as a Japanese man and possibly thought he was related to him and said he's sorry. Or third option, that was actually Harry's grandfather and he just doesn't know. As fun as all of these hypotheticals are, I think that you're going to be disappointed to find that. I think it was a man where we were just in his way, even though it looked like he walked out of his way to be inconvenienced by us and then said, I sorry, we were baffled for maybe a second, maybe two. I'd give it two seconds. And then looking back over it to be completely gone was still, even if it is those things of him coming up even if it was into these hypotheticals you said where did this man go how could he have moved so fast without us knowing i don't know i don't know you know if i was somewhere and a group of americans came up and i was a japanese man and i was like oh excuse me and they just stared at me dumb fuddled i'd probably be like you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna disappear so they think i'm a ghost there is a well first off that would not happen in Japan.
8:03Every time in Japan, no one really talks to each other. It's not a very social society. If you go into a business, it's different. Possibly. Well, if anything, then that's the case then too. It'd be weird that they would do that. But I would say that like... Also, I don't think that we were being disrespectful in any way. And also, I think that the only thing that we were looking at that was a bit odd was that he got so close to Harry's face, which is also very odd. That kind of close human contact. Harry knows that guy and he's lying to you and you should interrogate him about this if he is and that is downright cruel because he sold it very well I mean it was so an inch or two from his face and then to say I sorry and then scuttle off I don't know if it translates well but I will say it was a very I mean it shook us it shook us I was shook that's a pretty supernatural experience so you don't have any like ghost stories or anything from like the suicide forest just no no i didn't i didn't uh i didn't go to the suicide forest but i did get a blu-ray of a movie called hold on let me grab it what's the what's the logan paul oh yeah i've made a severe and continuous lapse in judgment uh it's a blu-ray called fuji jukay pretty sure that's how you It's a Fuji Jukai dot movie.
9:27Is that your hentai? No. If I type that in, is it going to be a bunch of like naked? Fuji underscore. Is it going to look at Nick's office? Fuji underscore Jukai dot movie. It is about a girl who tells other girls in our school that she wants to kill herself. And these other girls in our school are like, we want to watch. It's a cool concept. The movie itself is all recorded on an iPhone, I believe. And it's like at the very beginning of the movie, they find the iPhone at the base of the wood. Suicide force. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of interesting ideas. It's, I w it's definitely not like a super great movie, but you know, if you like found footage horror movie, you might dig it.
10:06I wouldn't, I wouldn't say it's anything spectacular, but it's a really cool concept. There's a lot of fun things that they just, I don't know. It doesn't make it all the way, but Fuji Jukai, I thought it'd be a fun shout out for this episode. So here it is. Very cool. That's, that's a lot better than a, you know, that was very respectful and like kind of Japanese culture. It's a lot different than we started this podcast. I was like, hey, we should do the Japanese episode. And you're like, oh, you mean the anime people? That's what you said. You've got to reel in the racism. I haven't said anything.
10:38I'm referring to what you said. I don't think I ever said the anime people. That's what you said. That's what you told me. All right. Well, Tomino's Hell, Hanako-san, The Toilet Ghost. there's a lot of i've noticed it with a lot of japanese horror storytelling there's a lot of they are not they are not happy with being disturbed in the toilet that's like a real it's a real i didn't say anything there that was you that made that i had nothing to do with that the point you just made you just said that all their stories are about toilets i didn't say all their stories i said that they that's what you said that that is what you said all right that is what you said the and i had nothing to do with it i'm defending them You're the one coming in here with your problem.
11:19Like old man bumps into you and says, I'm sorry. And you're like, was that a ghost? All right. The, uh, the, the toilet goes, an old urban legend about the ghost of a little girl that haunts the toilets of schools. Hashako Sama, which is an urban legend of a tall woman in a hat that brings about generational doom. God damn. Yeah. We're going to start with Tamino's hell. Uh, thank you so much to all of our patrons and all of our supporters. Uh, it really does mean the world. You can listen to these on Spotify and Apple podcasts, anywhere you listen to podcasts. and we really appreciate your all support.
11:48Thanks a bunch. Love you guys. If you want to check us out on audio platforms, be sure to check us out on Spotify and Apple podcast. I just give us a nice writing there. I just said, you only said, you only said Patreon. That's right. I said Patreon. Then I said, and you can listen to us on audio platforms like Spotify and Apple podcast. Okie dokie. I think you're trying. I think there's a mutiny going on here. I think you're trying to make a case that I am a mentally unfit to continue you to host this show well i don't i i would hate to comment on that i don't i i'm not going to comment on that i bet you would at this time but there'll be a lot of comments made about later and you're trying to replace me with nick this is all coming this is all coming back to your collective ip where there's just a bunch of shows and stuff that you and nick and nick's going to come to my house and he's going to dress up as me and he's going to set in my room he's going to raise your daughter just yeah he's gonna have to marry my wife the ultimate the ultimate goal is to find this asian man who this japanese man who right who uh said i sorry he's he's he's gonna be the new host he's the new host he's replacing me i come home one day like i go out to get milk and i walk in and like this 70 year old japanese man's wearing my clothes i'm like what and kayla is like who are you she's like freaking out on me and she looks at the japanese man she's like Isaiah stop him and she says she says I have a judge of smiles she says Isaiah were you in a house fire and you're like no no no I just wrecked the dirt bike again that's why these layers of skin are off my face and hands arms okay she's like is that seal kiss from a rose you're like no no no it's me your husband we were having fun okay we were having fun all right okay to me knows hell to me knows hell so real quick though this is a I just want to read this little part it says this is us I'm on David David Bowles website, davidbowles.us.
13:43So just saying, this is a thing that he put here. I just wanted to read. Apparently the story of a young boy's damnation for unnamed acts. Camino's Hell was published, I discovered, in a 1919 collection of poetry by Saijo Yasso. Is that how you say that? I think so. Titled Sakin or translated to Gold Dust. The poet was a university professor and lived in France for a time studying at the Soroban. His work is heavily influenced by French poets, especially symbolists like Arthur Rimbaud, Stephanie Malamud, and Paul Vallabour, with whom he became friends with. Though Saito's later work was ostensibly for children, it was filled with strange symbols and wordplay that could be quite unsettling.
14:22So just thought that was kind of interesting. So now you're saying, though, from what we were saying earlier, you think that that might not be true or you do think it is? I don't know. I think it might be real I mean obviously the way to check it out would be to look up Saken Goldust but I don't know if I want to do that I will say David does something kind of interesting here in the next part he says here's my rendering of this dark and disturbing poem with footnotes of important matters I've not actually read the thing aloud so I can't speak to whether the curse is real I'll leave that to your own discretion I think that's kind of fun we'll see if I get cursed we'll see what happens I'm praying for no speaking parts yeah uh well it's a poem so i think you're good uh so i'll also read the foreword on the creepypasta wiki because in every version that was circulated around online it had this intro all right tamino's hell was written by seijo yasso for his 27th collection of poems seiken or gold dust in english in 1919 there's a japanese legend surrounding it which states it should only be read with the mind and never out loud it's uncertain how this rumor started but it goes on to say that tragic things will happen if you do.
15:32The story used to be very popular on 2channel. Many users said that nothing happened after reading it and uploaded pictures and videos as proof. There were also posts where the user did not come back to post any results. And then it says if you were to read this out loud it'd be better to do so in Japanese. Which I'm not going to attempt. You're welcome. An alternative, more accurate translation by David Bowles can be found here which is the one hunter has pulled up there's also this image that's always passed around with of this girl that looks like it's drawn uh with these very harsh strikes like these like dark reds and bright whites and stuff looks like a girl without a nose who's been scarred or burned and at the bottom of the page on the creepypasta wiki it says the image associated with this story is a cropped version of a painting by yuko tatsushima entitled i can no longer be a bride It was supposedly made after the artist became a victim of sexual assault.
16:30The title refers to how, according to Japanese tradition, women who are often have ensuing difficulties with marriage and reputation due to the perception of them having lost their innocence. That is depressing. Okay, so with that happy note out of the way, are you ready for me to read the poem that curses me? Yeah, very, very ready. Also, there is a translation at the end that is in the original Japanese that I could attempt to read if you want me to. You want to sit here and do the whole thing in Japanese afterwards? I could, if you want. Hold on. Let me do it first. Okay, you want me to read the quote-unquote more accurate David Bowles version?
17:08Well, in the David Bowles, there is a... Okay, yeah, just go ahead. Because when I was a kid, I read like the creepypasta version that's passed around. But maybe I didn't get cursed because that was less accurate. So this is different. So wait, wait, wait. This is different than what you read? Yeah, well, it's the same poem. It's just the one that circulated around like on creepypasta websites was apparently not as accurate of a translation. I see. Okay. So this is. So this is David one is like the real one. So we'll see if I really get cursed this time. Right, right. Here we go. Elder sister vomits blood.
17:40Younger sister breathing fire. While sweet little Tomino just spits up the jewels. All alone does Tomino go falling into that hell. a hell of utter darkness without even flowers is to mino's big sister the one who whips him the purpose of the scourging hangs dark in his mind lashing and thrashing him ah but never quite shattering one sure path to avici the eternal hell into the blackest of hells guide him now i pray to the golden sheep to the nightingale how much did he put in that leather pouch to prepare for his trek to the eternal hell. Bring us coming, to the valley, to the wood, to the spiraling chasms of the blackest hill, nightingale in her cage, the sheep aboard the wagon, the tears well up in the eyes of sweet little Tomino.
18:34Sing, O nightingale, in the vast, misty forest. He screams he only misses his little sister. His wailing desperation echoes throughout hell. A fox peony opens its golden petals down past the seven mountains and seven rivers of hell the solitary journey of sweet little tomino if in this hell they be found may they then come to me please those sharp spikes of punishment from needle mountain not just on some empty whim is flesh pierced with blood red pins they serve as hellish signpost for sweet little tomino wow beautiful it's actually like a very beautiful poem my god it's like a child is uh it sounds like he's in like a miserable place where it starts with elder sister vomit younger sister breeze fire but he just spits up the jewels now it's like he dies and falls into hell so he's going through hell but there's almost a hopefulness for it it's like you know he goes through the the red river the red rivers of hell and there's like the needles but there's signposts for him it's like wishing him well as he walks through the underworld yeah almost feels like a almost kind of like a dante's inferno kind of parallel of yeah well that connects you know that connects to uh buddhist hell i believe that is layered i think it's 10 layers i'm pretty sure um also uh david had a very interesting uh footnote thing that i thought was interesting that we should probably go through his first point here is the term here translated hell is Jigoku, the Buddhist hell complex into which very sinful people can be reincarnated.
20:23Note also the poem follows a 7-7-7-5 syllabic pattern evocative of most traditional Japanese verses. Interesting. Yeah, so I looked it up. Buddhism has eight hot hells and eight cold hells. So when it talks about him walking past the seven mountains, it almost sounds like he's going to the very bottom of hell. It's kind of interesting, too, at the beginning, we get all those descriptions of Tomino's sisters basically suffering while he is not, is the second point that he made. The third point is, apparently the lashes Tomino is receiving on his way to hell are deserved. Although, another possible reading of the Japanese might be, the purpose of the scourging worries him, suggesting possibly that he doesn't know why he's being punished.
21:05To me, it seems he knows. It's kind of interesting. The translation of him knowing is also just like a person living with that guilt or sin or something is pretty fucking horrifying. I like this part where it says, The poem reveals that Tomino is headed to Mujin Jigoku, the Japanese translation of the Sanskrit Avicii. Avicii is the lowest of hells in Buddhism, one whose torment lasts so long, eons and eons, that souls seem to be trapped there for eternity. there are five horrible sins you can commit to end up in this place creating a schism within the community of buddhist monks and nuns shedding the blood of a buddha killing an enlightened person or intentionally murdering one's father or one's mother so when it's talking about tamino going down there and the relation to his sisters perhaps that is implying that's what he did and that's why he goes all the way to eight yeah the fifth the fifth which is this is all once again in relation to David Bowes.
22:07Yeah. Is it Bowles or Bowes? Bowes, I think. Yeah. One of his fifth points is it strikes me that the sheep and nightingale are symbolic of Tamino's sisters. We see them dancing around a lot and singing and all that stuff. So the seventh post, this is interesting. Another, by seven, we're looking at the points that David has outlined underneath the poem he says another possible translation would be not just on some empty whim will i pierce with blood red pins the marks upon the body of sweet little tomino either way the conclusion is chilling uh now given that the poet has a predilection for symbolist poetry it's very likely that all this talk of tomino's descending into hell is mere metonymy yeah metonymy but i think it's metonymy whatever that word is and that some other sort of earthly hell of interpersonal relationships is being described the japanese wikipedia article of seijo suggests that he wrote this poem upon the death of either his sister or father given the aims of symbolist poetry to um to avoid to describing things themselves and instead describing their effects it strikes me that the poem is meant to show seijo's emotional distress upon someone's death comparing his survivor's guilt to a journey into hell and that would relate back to the point where he's going to the eighth layer reserved for those who killed their parents it feels like perhaps maybe it wasn't theirs you know whatever happened in the poet's life he's attributing to me no suffering as if he killed his own parent my god look at the comments isaiah look at the fourth comment down i pooped my jammies
23:48good god oh that's good that's good yeah very very interesting i you know what this is going to sound so fucking stupid so please don't hold it against me this is like what i want two sentence horrors to feel like two sentence horror stories to feel like you know what i mean which is obviously impossible because they're only two sentences long but this it's so so short and it's like it's just so simple of talking about one thing yet i feel like it really uh and you get you just get so much out of it. It's very, uh, I don't know. Very enlightening. How would you want two sentence horror to feel like that?
24:27I guess in the way that, which once again, I know it sounds so fucking stupid. I don't even know why I said it out loud in God. I'm so fucking dumb, but I guess it's just the idea that it's like you, you want the two sentence horse to just be like, it's something that that's that short and has that much of an impact. But once again, it doesn't make any sense. I'm a fucking idiot. It's because it's obviously more than two sentences. never mind I even said it just forget I even said it I'm a fucking idiot I think what you mean is like all the two sentence words are so stupid fold in on yourself is so funny well it's because it's such a fucking stupid thing it's the most like it's just the most like it's just so fucking dumb what a dumb thing to say it's unbelievable that I have a microphone fuck my life
25:16if I had to justify it all it's probably supposed to be something along the lines of like, you know, every two sentence horror that we are even not even outside of two sentence horror. I think a lot of things that are this short, it just ends up being like, Oh, it's a monster. Oh, this is, this is the entire payoff is like, it's a spooky monster versus these things of like something that's this short yet packs in all of this emotional weight while also giving us like, there's almost no exposition it's like you're handed everything on this like beautiful platter and you're able to like run with it in all these different directions i just think is really really fun also probably i mean so i don't know must be so difficult you know have something which just no fat like this is uh it's very admirable and also too it's just a beautiful beautiful translation too but you know at the same time man with here's my two sentence horror story man with podcast opens mouth that's my fucking two sentence horror that's a pretty good one that's pretty creepy I looked up Japanese two sentence horror stories and they're all like they're all just normal two sentence stories of course it is it might be the dumbest thing I've ever said and I apologize for it I know that I'm gonna get absolutely railed I heard a woman laughing softly behind me but when i turned there was only my reflection smiling back man with thought koi fish in the pond stared up at me the mouth's moving as if chanting it's just a koi fish here's my here's here's mine hunter had a thought he thought it was good that's my dude no i get what you mean the idea of like having a very short concise thing uh that means something more than just what the sentences say.
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30:53Since then, her popularity has continued to be passed on to future generations. That's all according to this website. Don't know how true that is, but now, would you like to read the story? Yes. One day, A-Chan, a primary school girl, attended a school committee and stayed in school until late afternoon. When she returned to her classroom, the sun had almost set. She was the only one in the classroom. A-Chan wanted to hurry home, but suddenly wanted to go to the toilet. Toilet?
31:31There was a reason why she hesitated to go to the toilet. It was because there was a rumor going around at school that a ghost called Hanako-san with bobbed hair and a red skirt appeared in the toilet. She thought she wouldn't make it until she got home. With no other option, A-Chan decided to go to the toilet. It was the nearest toilet to the classroom, on the third floor. There were three private stalls. A-Chan hurriedly entered one of them and breathed a sigh of relief. When she finished her business and washed her hands, she looked in the mirror and felt uncomfortable. Did someone come in?
32:06When she entered the toilet earlier, the doors of all the private stalls should have been open. Now, the door of the third toilet at the far end was closed. There was no sign that anyone had entered. Could it be Chan from the next class? She thought about it. B-Chan also attended a committee with A-Chan. She wanted to make sure, so she knocked on the door. Knock, knock. A reply came back. Apparently, someone was there. Relieved, A-Chan called out to her inside. Ah, B-Chan. Isn't it? Let's go home together. No reply. Wasn't it B-Chan? Feeling awkward, A-Chan put her hand on the outside door to leave the toilet.
32:46It won't open. It should open easily by pulling, but the door wouldn't open, even if she pushed or pulled. The sudden change reminded her of the rumor about Hanako-san in the toilet. Don't tell me it's Hanako-san in that stall. With a bit of hope like that, she asked fearfully. Is that Hanako-san in there? Then, the door was banged on from the inside with a tremendous force. A-chan, terrified and panicking, tried to get out of the toilet while screaming. but the door didn't budge. Please let me out! HM broke down crying in front of the door. Then the banging on the door suddenly stopped at the door of the private stall, which had been locked, opened, and inside, a girl with bobbed hair and a red skirt was floating.
33:30I love that. Yeah, that seems like a classic middle school horror story. Like, oh, there's a ghost girl floating in the bathroom. This is literally the cartoon I made, which is just like being afraid to take a shit in public is like the most universally i mean like it's every culture no one wants to take a shit in public it's like the haunting idea that someone is listening to you do this like thing that you're like fucking embarrassed by no one wants to hear your your fucking your pooping your farting sounds or anything like that this idea of uh this bathroom etiquette or this like bathroom invasion is uh it's it i love this idea too that it's from this they said as early as the 50s is when this was written yeah yeah even that's when the legend started to make the rounds yeah yeah i bet you even the fucking romans that had the aqueducts were just like hey hold on don't come in that kind of thing i mean it's it's yeah it's forever you know i mean it's so uh universal but no i i mean that kind of just fun urban legend though is uh is really really fun there's this great um anime i saw at alamo draft house that uh it flowed like this it wasn't like a toilet spirit but it's just this idea of like did you hear that there's a ghost here and then somebody is like oh that that sucks and they immediately go there and are immediately haunted by said ghost it's like there's really no build up or payoff it's just kind of like here i am like in this story it's here i am i'm washing my hands or i'm taking a shit whatever and all of a sudden it's like oh god i hope that's not that ghost are you that ghost and it's like yep
35:09but in this like in this like style it just works I don't know like the one that I was referring to I cannot remember the actual title of the story but I do I do know it was a Kazuo Umez I believe is how you pronounce his name he's like he's like a Japanese horror mangaka like legend he's like the guy that Junji Ito was inspired by but it's just I see the guy that did that the classroom one that talks about all the time yep yeah yeah the the dissolving the melting classroom or whatever yeah or i think ito did that one or at least he did a rendition of it the drifting classroom i think is what he's is what you're referring to oh oh yeah but that's yeah anyways it those those uh animes or those like kind of like horror uh japanese storytelling it's just i i don't know why there's something really satisfying about just like i'm gonna tell you exactly what's gonna happen and it's going to happen like i like that's that's to be fair that's true with almost any ghost story but i just love how to the point it is here it's just kind of fun and to just reading oh no go ahead no go ahead and cut you off you're good reading down the description at some of the like stories around it it says that uh she is hanako son is normally associated with the number three so most stories she'll either be the third stall or it will happen on the third floor or she'll respond to the third knock.
36:30I love this idea. Details like that are fun. The idea I love is she is the third thing that happens in the bathroom. You either take a number one, a number two, or she is the number three. She's the number three. That's what the number three is. And it has to be in reference somehow. I love that. You're either taking a piss, a shit, or you're getting killed by a ghost. That's the number three. If there was ever a horror movie edition of this, I would hope it would just be called number three. or would just number three yeah yeah it says in most renditions of the story when she replies she opens the stall door and drags in the person who knocked uh it says there's different depending on who you ask there's different origins to her story one is that uh she was a girl who was in the bathroom uh at school when class started she did not return they go to look for her and she was found dead in the toilet she had been murdered another one is that she was a victim of a family suicide suicide's a recurring topic with a lot of like Japanese stories yeah well depending on what time period is too it's all reflective of just what's happening in the in the country I mean there's that great yeah cultural there's that great Japanese movie called Club which is about like yeah which is about like a J-pop song that makes you when that movie was made in response to the economic crash and people yeah over that kind of economic crash do you think that also So, because we see a lot of ghosts in bathrooms, in a lot of like just cinema or storytelling in general.
38:00Do you think that that is just because of like in a school setting, especially is do you think that has anything to do with like bullying? I feel like so much of like old movies and storytelling. You hear so much about people getting like, you know, what's it called? Yeah, swirly. when he gets swirly that kind of stuff of people like talking it's like a private place for kids to talk and like openly bully people without adults being there to supervise or something i'm wondering if that has anything to do with these kinds of things popping up too i think potentially it's also because when you're in school the bathroom is the only place that you're by yourself typically it's the only form of privacy you have it's also the only place you have privacy right so if anything were to go wrong to you alone it would have to be while you're in the bathroom um i also like some of the details with this when you scroll down it says if an akusan appears um there's some in some stories there's ways to ward her off you can show her a test paper with a perfect 100 when asked to play with her you say no uh say sorry over and over again or show her milk and yellow food which is said to be something she doesn't like i like little details like that little things that flesh out the story yeah there's also this fun note that is really weird but cool it says strange as it may sound the belief in a toilet deity was popular in japan from the ito period to the early showa period wow this deity was called kawa yagami and it was worshipped by offering a red and white female doll and beautiful floral decorations in the toilet the worship of kawa kawa kawa yagami gradually declined after world war ii but remained afterwards the theory is also supported by several similarities such as the fact that hanako son is dressed in red or white and her name is hanako which consists of two japanese letters meaning flower and child that's fun that's pretty cool the idea that's like uh an iteration of a god that has no longer been worshipped that people have forgotten about so it appears on its own now that's cool i hate to always be this kind of person too but there's just so many things i just it just made me think of all these different kinds of it's just i i love the uh i i guess i love how every which i once again this is probably true with every uh culture or whatever but the way that they pass down the storytelling is just really fun like it just even made me think of the uh there's this game i have on my pc called world of horror it's like a uh point and click uh black and white horror game very very good very like reminisce people kept calling it looked a lot like junji ito or like horror mangaka type uh style but i always wanted to get it on my wife switch which does make me sound like a cuck but it would be a sweet release to get on that and her boyfriend really likes it too so it'd be nice but the but it does make me think I just love that the way that like these things it's so funny from the Edo period all the way up now it just still like finds new ways to invent itself or it just is like a fun thing that's always passed down and it like always remains relevant it's just really fun yeah yeah I agree It's fun to have like so much of, and I think part of it is like, obviously as Americans, we have like culture and stories taken from Europe and, you know, like, uh, I mean, we're a melting pot of a lot of, it's just a melting pot of cultures that are, you know?
41:19Yeah. Yeah. There's so many different stories that have been brought in from different regions of the world. And like, obviously there's a lot of Christian influence. There's a lot of stories related to like demons and stuff like that. But Japan has existed for so long, like continuously that their stories like build and build off each other and change and adapt. So everything feels so rooted. I know. I'm always so jealous. Their stories have so much context to it. Yeah. I'm always so jealous of other cultures that have such a long lineage of history and stuff. It just must be just such a different world.
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41:48You know what I mean? It's just fucking, it's insane. It's like, I think that's what makes everything so fantastical. uh it's just that we we get i feel like we just get the scraps of those kinds of uh bits and cultures of things passed down you know what i mean nothing ever really rooted but uh should we know so we're good yeah we'll move on to the next one so it's called hashaku sama and i look it up and uh she's also known as the eight feet tall lady and i gotta say looking at some of these pictures of her you know she kind of i like this reoccurring thing in japanese storytelling as well or at least japanese horror storytelling where it's like a simple figure and all they do is like walk or they exist in like the like in this in a lot of cases it's like you see them through the fog usually they walk through a park maybe like a road or of some kind and it's just like slightly unnatural enough to where uh it becomes like a creepy urban legend or something like the woman who walks alone or something you know it's just like and I love when people put characters in these scenarios where they emerge from fog or something as if it's like using your own weather or climate against you to kind of like trick your brain to being like fuck did I just see that what did I just see I don't know what I just saw that's really fun see that real quick yeah just to you know I think that's pretty fun definitely spooky I'm real frightened right now all right um my father's parents house was a little less than two hours away by car it was a farming house but i like that sort of thing so when i started high school and got a bike i often went on trips there by myself during the summer and winter holidays both my grandfather and my grandmother happily welcomed me we're so happy that you're here however the last time i went there was just before i started the third grade of high school so i haven't been there in over 10 years now.
43:42It's not that I won't go, but rather I can't go. It was the start of spring vacation and the weather was perfect, so I got on my bike and went to my grandfather's house. It was still a little cold, but the veranda was pleasantly warm, so I relaxed there for a while. Then, I heard this strange sound. It didn't sound like a machine. It sounded like it was coming from a person in addition to that it was kind of like it was both a voiced consonant and half voiced at the same time what was that i wondered and then i saw a hat over the top of the garden hedge there's no reason it would have been put up there then it started to move sideways and once it reached a gap in the hedge i saw a woman ah that woman was wearing the hat she was also wearing a white one-piece dress however the hedge was about two meters high if her head could pop out over the top of that just how tall was she i was shocked but she started moving again and disappeared from view the hat also disappeared then at some point the po-po-po sound also stopped at the time i didn't think much more of it than perhaps an already tall woman wearing some high heeled boots or perhaps a tall man dressed up as a woman in high heels afterwards i was in the living room drinking tea when i told my grandfather and grandmother about what just happened i saw this really big woman i wonder if it was a man cross-dressing i said they just replied oh yeah she was bigger than the hedge she was wearing a hat and was making the strange sound like The moment I said it, the two of them froze Like they stopped moving at the exact same time After that, my grandfather's face contorted And he threw a barrage of angry questions at me When did you see her?
45:36Where did you see her? How much taller than the hedge was she? I answered his barrage of questions And then he suddenly fell silent And went to the phone in the hallway and called somewhere The sliding door was closed So I couldn't hear what he was saying very well My grandmother was visibly shaken Don't fuck me up I finished his phone call. My grandfather said, You'll stay here tonight. No, there's no way we can let you return tonight. Have I perhaps done something awful? I worried, but I couldn't think of anything. It's not like I went to see that woman by myself. She was the one who appeared to me.
46:09Then my grandfather said, Grandma, I'm leaving him to you now. I'm going to pick up K-son. Took off in his truck. Timidly, I asked my grandmother about it, and she said in a trembling voice, It seems you have been possessed by House Haku-sama. Your grandfather's going to do something about it. There's no need to worry. After that, she told me bit by bit until my grandfather returned. Man, to not hear there's a monster outside, but you've already been possessed? My gosh. I would look at her and be like, word? hey grandma roll hey roll that back again what the fuck do you mean i'm possessed i do like this idea that it's like grandma what the frick i do like this idea of like knowing that you see this person people are like oh yeah really how big was she and you think it's all cute until it's just a specific detail and then it's like oh fuck he's possessed oh shit oh he's possessing there it is also no shot that that resident evil village uh or yeah Resident Evil Village woman.
47:13Oh, Lady Dimitrescu. There's no way in hell that was not referenced. You know what I mean? They had to have been referencing this. Oh, I'm sure it came from it. Oh, yeah. I can't tell you, by the way, what it was like being, because I love the Resident Evil games a lot. And then to be like so ready for eight's reveal and then to see like the nine foot tall woman, I was like, ah, Capcom. God damn, dude. You beautiful animal. My boy's been bricked these past couple of weeks. I'll tell you what. I just, you know, I just appreciate the arts. That's all it is. That's all it is. I want to take a moment to thank today's sponsor, Harry's Razors.
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49:34Just like her name suggested, she was about eight feet or shaku tall and had a strange manly laugh that went depending on the person, she might appear as a young woman in a morning dress, an old lady in a formal kimono, or even a middle-aged woman in farm clothes. while her appearance was always different the things she always had in common were her incredible height the fact she always wore something on her head her strange laugh in the past there were rumors of her being a possessed traveler but nobody knew for sure she was sealed in this area now it's a part of o city but in the past it was part of a larger section of x village by jizo statues so she's unable to leave when you are possessed by hushaku sama you were killed within a few days last time hushaku sama hurt someone was 15 years ago it kind of reminds me of um what's that what's that japanese movie about incantation no that's the found footage one what's the one with the dad who's a cop whaling yes the whaling yeah yeah where it's like his his kids possessed and he doesn't know what to do about it so he's going out to try to find help right and a part of the horror of it is like how helpless they are against all of this that's happening yeah i love those kind of movies though man that act of faith kind of movie love that yeah yeah except at the end of that one i mean spoilers but the end of that one's kind of like well you tried yeah but no he broke he broke the rule he didn't he didn't have faith that the woman was telling the truth so he like ruined the he left he ruined the seal and broke it yeah i heard this after the fact but the reason she was sealed in by the jizo statues was because if shakusama could only leave the village by certain paths nobody knows why and so they enshrined the jizo statues on those particular paths they were to prevent her leaving but apparently they were placed in four locations on the boundaries of the east and west and the north and south as to why they would even try to keep ushakosama trapped here apparently there was an arrangement with the nearby villages where they got for example priority to water rights and such shakusama only appeared to bother people once every 10 or so years so the people who lived there in the past found it to be an advantageous deal even nearing all that there was no way it could be real, I thought.
52:08Of course not. Before long, my grandfather returned with an old woman in tow. Well, haven't you gotten yourself into a fine mess? Here, take this. The old lady said and handed me a talisman. Then she went upstairs with my grandfather to do something. My grandmother stayed behind with me. Even when I went to the toilet, she went with me and wouldn't let me close the door the whole way. For the first time since being there, I started to think, maybe this really is dangerous. A short while later, they called me up to the second floor and put me in a room. The windows were entirely covered over with newspaper and talismans, and there were piles of salts in all four corners.
52:51There was a small wooden box, not something you'd really call an altar or anything, and on top of it was a small statue of Buddha. Then, I don't know where they came from, but there were two bedpans prepared as well. I was supposed to go in those? The sun's about to set. Listen, you can't leave this room until tomorrow morning. Neither myself nor your grandmother will call you or try to speak to you, okay? You must under no circumstance leave this room until 7am tomorrow. At 7am you can come out by yourself. I'll call and let your parents know. My grandfather said with a serious look on his face.
53:30I could do nothing but nod silently in agreement. Make sure you do exactly as was just said. Keep your talisman close as well. If anything happens, go and pray before the Buddha, Khe San said. They said it was okay to watch TV, so I turned it on. But even as I watched it, my mind wandered and I couldn't focus. Being locked in the room, I didn't feel like eating the anajiri or snacks my grandmother made for me, so I just got in the futon and lay there, trembling. At some point, I fell asleep. but when I woke up, I don't remember what it was, but some late night TV program was on. When I looked at my watch, it was past 1am.
54:11At this time, I didn't have a cell phone. Oh, what an awful time to wake up, I thought, when I heard something tapping at the window glass. It wasn't like a small rock hitting it. It was more like a finger wrapping across the surface. I couldn't decide whether the wind could make a sound like that or if it really was a person tapping at the window so I tried to believe with all my might that it really was just the wind then I heard my grandfather's voice hey are you okay don't push yourself too hard if you're scared okay without thinking I walked towards the door but then I remembered what my grandfather said to me.
55:00The voice sounded exactly like my grandfather, but it wasn't him. I don't know why, but I just knew. And as I realized that, I got goosebumps. I looked over at the pile of salt in the corner, and the top had turned black. I ran at full speed to the Buddha and sat down in front of it. Grasping the talisman I started to pray as hard as I could.
55:30Then I heard the voice, and the window started rapping. I knew she wasn't that tall, but I couldn't stop picturing her in my mind reaching up from below and tapping on the window. There was nothing I could do but keep praying in front of the Buddha. Night felt unbelievably long, but eventually morning came, and at some point the tv that had left on started playing the morning news the time in the corner of the screams at 7 13 a.m i'd even noticed but both the tapping on the glass and the voice had stopped it seemed i'd either fallen asleep or lost consciousness pile of salt turned even more black just in case i looked at my own watch and it said roughly the same time so i nervously opened the door and my grandmother and kason were standing there looking worried my grandmother was crying I'm so glad.
56:22I'm so glad. When I went downstairs, my father was also there. My grandfather appeared from outside and told me to Hurry up and get in the car. I don't know where it came from, but when I went out into the garden, there was a minivan there. There were also several men standing in the garden. in. The van fit nine people. I was put in the middle seat. A's onset in the passenger seat, and the rest of the men in the garden got in and surrounded me. There were nine of us in total. I was surrounded in all directions. It's terrible, isn't it? You'll probably be curious, but I want you to close your eyes and keep your head down.
57:00We won't be able to see anything, but perhaps you will. Until we say it's okay, you keep your eyes shut. An old man in his 50s sitting to my right said to me. Then my grandfather got into his minitruck to take the lead, followed by the van I was in, and my father followed in his car as we set off. The line of cars drove rather slowly. They probably weren't going over 20 kilometers an hour. Before long, K-San muttered, This is the hard part. And the men started chanting some sort of Buddhist prayer.
57:35I heard that voice again. I gripped the talisman K-son gave me, closed my eyes and put my head down like I was told, but for some reason I opened my eyes just a little and looked outside. I saw a white dress. It was moving alongside the car. She was following with such long strides. Hey, her head was outside the window so I couldn't see it. but she started bobbing her head down like she was trying to see inside the car
58:12imagine that you see the dress and then you start to see a huge chin like a giant like down the top of the window yeah yeah like above it trying to look it reminds me um um what's that ito one the model the supermodel or whatever the really terrifying girl who comes for the pictures and she's like a monster or whatever she has this monstrous proportion there's also a there's also a sexy one where like a guy in the fog is like walking the alleyways to reminds me of that one too but you know oh i don't think i know that one unconsciously i let out a sound. Don't look! The man next to me raised his voice.
58:54In a panic, I squeezed my eyes shut and gripped the talisman even tighter. Kotsu, Kotsu, Kotsu. A tapping sound on the window began. The people in the car around me also gasped in fear. Even though they couldn't see her or hear her voice, they could hear the sound on the window. Kaysan started praying even harder. Finally, when I thought the voice and sounds stopped, Kason said, We got away. They've been around me. We've been quiet until that point where we're relieved and said, Thank goodness. Soon after, the van stopped in a wide part of the road and I got into my father's car. As my father and grandfather bowed to the other men, Kason came over and said, Show me the talisman.
59:36I was still unconsciously gripping it. When I looked at it, it had turned entirely black. Kason said, I think it's all okay now, but just in case, you should keep this for a little while longer. He gave me a new talisman. After that, I returned home with my father. A few days later, my grandfather and one of his neighbors brought my bike back. Apparently, my father also knew about Hushaku-sama, and he told me about one of his childhood friends who was possessed by her and then killed. He even knew of people that had to move away and live in other places because of her. the men who rode in the car were all related to my grandfather in some way which meant they were all very loosely my blood relatives as well of course my grandfather riding in the front and my father riding in the back were connected by blood as well so they were all meant to confuse hushaku sama somewhat from me my father's brothers my uncles were unable to come over in a single night so they gathered whatever blood relatives they could no matter how loosely related we were but Of course, it was still impossible to get so many men together so quickly, and thinking it much safer to leave during the day than at night, I was imprisoned in that room for the night.
1:00:45In a worst case scenario, apparently, both my grandfather and father were prepared to sacrifice themselves for me as we escaped as well. Now, as I explained above, I make sure not to go back there anymore. After I returned home, I spoke to my grandfather on the phone and asked him if he spoke to me on that night, but he said that he didn't so it really was i got chills down my spine thinking about it again ashaku sama targeted youths yet to come of age and children often saw her as well when youths and children are feeling extremely anxious and they hear the voice of someone from their family i think they quickly let their guard down 10 years passed and just as i was about to forget those events, something terrible happened.
1:01:30The Jezo statue's keeping Hoshu Kusama and the village broke. It's the one on the road leading towards your house. Brother Mother told me over the phone. My grandfather died two years earlier, and of course I wasn't able to go to his funeral. Even when my grandfather was no longer able to get out of bed, he said for me not to come. Even now as I'm telling myself that it's just a superstition, I find myself getting more and more worried. when I think about hearing that voice again. What a wonderful story. That is a great little horror story. I love that. That was by... Trying to confuse it as you drive out of the border that it can't pass.
1:02:10That was... That's awesome. That was by Tara A. Devlin, and she actually has a book called Kawabana True Japanese Scary Stories from Around the Internet, Volume 1. Just want to say, we'll link that in the... Yeah. We'll link that in the description as well. I'm picking up mine right now because that was fucking sweet. she has uh several it looks like she has a collection of three very cool oh no what books one through ten oh my gosh she's got she got a bunch of these things man yeah we'll link that description that was cool i enjoyed that i liked that one a lot that was good that was well paced it got me a little bit with it when he's in the room and you hear the tapping and stuff and he was praying that was pretty good this idea of uh a possession story of someone also just being like I always love deception and stuff in these horror stories and the idea of somebody being like you cannot open this door until 7am and then it's like also this idea to this is before I had a smartphone holy fuck what if my watch was off I'd be I would be going insane you step out at 658 oh yeah shit yeah should we move on to the next one yeah we can move on to the next one so the next one is how would you pronounce that Kisaragi yeah kisseragi station kisseragi station for the description of this one on creepypasta wiki it says the following is a translated transcript of an actual thread posted on the japanese message board to channel in 2004 this oh man 2004 this is ancient internet horror the stated topic was post about strange occurrences around you the poster was anonymous at first before using the name husumi not long into the discussion and husumi indicate indicate post made by the thread creator uh the hashtag uh two channel indicates a post made by another two chand user they are not the same they are not all the same person okay so when we see the question mark it's it's like a comment on 4chan yeah right or not 4chan anonymous 2chan anonymous yeah so anonymous post and then people replying, asking questions.
1:04:10So do you want, you can be Hasumi, the person talking, and I can be the poster replies. I'll be question mark in the Hasumi and you'll be 2CH. So for everyone, when I'm voicing, it's not just the same person. It's just all the commenters replying to Hasumi. This may be my imagination. Can I post it anyway? Go ahead. What's going on? I've been riding a certain train for a while, but something seems off. I always take this train to work, but it hasn't stopped them at any station for the past 20 minutes or so It usually takes five minutes seven or eight at worst. Oh And there's five other passengers, but they're all sleeping Did you take the express train by mistake?
1:04:53Is it a high-speed train? Well, it's possible. I may have missed my stop I'll wait a little longer If anything else strange occurs, I might bring it up here. Try going to the car on the end to see the conductor. Maybe Maybe? It'd be really bad if the driver had an epileptic fit or something. You should check on the conductor. Still no sign of stopping, so alright, I'll take a look. There were blinds or something covering the window, so I couldn't see the conductor or the driver. The route is a private railway in Shizuka. Knock on the window? I tried that, but nobody answered. Can you see out the window?
1:05:27Names of stations you're passing, etc.? We came out of a tunnel, so we're dropping speeds slightly. There usually aren't any tunnels, though. It's a train from Shin Hamamatsu. Looks like we're finally stopping at a station. You weren't going to get off there, are you? We're stopped at Kisagari Station. I wonder if I should get off. I've never heard of this place before. Definitely check it out. No, stay on until the last stop. Oh, but it's probably already departing now. When did you get on the train? I've gotten off the train. The station's unmanned. I believe they got off the train at 1140. I'm not finding any information on Kisaragi Station.
1:06:03And, Hasumi, your train was going for over an hour. Well, that's really strange. Yeah, I'm not getting any results for Kisaragi Station. I'm looking for a schedule so I can get back. But I can't find one. The train has still stopped, so it'll probably be safest to get back on. Well, it left while I was riding that. Is there anyone nearby or any buildings? It's cold out, so be careful. I'll look for a taxi from the station. Thank you very much. Sounds good. Take care. Way past the last train at an unmanned station. Really questionable if you'll have any luck finding a taxi there. And so Hasumi became an inhabitant of the two-dimensional world.
1:06:44It doesn't matter what time period of the internet it is, there's going to be someone out there saying you're about to die. There don't seem to be any taxis anywhere. Call 110, which is a Japanese number for police. Call the taxi company. If there's a telephone booth nearby, look up the taxi company in the phone book. Call. I called home and asked to be picked up, but neither of my parents seem to know where Kisaragi Station is. They'll look for it on the map so they can come get me. But I'm getting a little scared now. What about the others? Are you the only one who got off the train? I checked online too, and the name Kisaragi Station isn't coming up.
1:07:19Am I wrong in assuming it's around Shin Hamamatsu? I'll check Yahoo. I looked for a public phone, but there's nothing. and no one else got off. So I'm alone now. It's definitely called Kisaragi. This is good, man. I love this. Someone posted just an abandoned train station or an unmanned train station. It's like the last stop before eternity. Sometimes they have phones outside the station. Looking into it. Apparently it's written with the kanji for devil, but it reads Kisaragi. Devil station. Yikes. You know shit, dude. Dude, fuck that. Sorry, well, bye forever, assuming. Are you a gaming nerd?
1:08:04Because a game comes up if you Google it. Tell us the names of the stations before and after Kisaragi. What do you mean a game? It doesn't say what the next and previous stations are. Walk back along the track. That's an awesome suggestion. Just start walking into the woods. If you start running now, you might catch up to the train.
1:08:25There must be houses around the station, right? Yes, there are. I didn't quite notice since I was panicking. I waited for my parents to call while walking along the track. I tried checking town information on iMode, but it gave me a point error or something. I want to go home. There's really just nothing around here. All I can see are fields and mountains. I think I'll be able to make it back if I go down the track, so I'll keep pushing on. Thank you very much. treat this as a joke if you will but but can i come to you if i can count any more trouble of course just be careful out there sure just make sure you don't run out of battery your phone's your lifeline right now don't get lost and be careful in the tunnel huh you can get a signal out of the middle of nowhere i kind of think you shouldn't stray far from the station all alone on a cold night at a station with no attendance soon the lights could go out and it'll be pitch black It really might be the safest to wait for daybreak at the station though.
1:09:23Oh, geez. This sounds bad. I got a call from my father. He had many questions, but simply couldn't find my location. I've been told to call 1110, which I'm a little opposed to doing. I'll try to ask them to help me now. So Hunter, if you were on a train and the train drops you off somewhere and you're just alone, no one else, not a soul at the station, what would you do? God. Well, I mean, first off, I would never get off. There's no way I would live on the train. I feel like. honestly though realistically if i i would probably just stay at the station at least wait i mean yeah at least wait till morning i mean i would just turn you're gonna you're just gonna walk through the darkness of the woods absolutely no no no i'm not gonna walk on the tracks or do whatever and like you know hope to i'm just gonna wait because then also too i'm gonna like i'm at a train station we just got off even if it takes a while maybe there's another one i'll just wait get on that one yeah i don't know yeah there's gotta be something better yeah i really think you should wait until it gets lighter out before you do anything waiting all alone in the dead of night and in some ominous place yikes going through a tunnel alone in the dead of night and on some ominous train line yikes I called 110 and tried my absolute best to explain the situation but I thought it was all a joke and got angry at me so I got scared and apologized now that would be me that'd be me like I'm sorry actually no I don't need anything it's okay I definitely would just be calling back hey listen this is real so it said this was 2004 but he has a mobile phone yeah it wasn't i think blackberries were around by then in 04 really i think so let me see there's yeah 99 is when blackberries came out whoa that's crazy and you could like browse the internet with them the blackberry smartphone the blackberry smartphone the 580 the 5810 arrived in 2002 so yeah like right at the beginning whoa Oh, that's crazy.
1:11:12I know that they were pretty early on. I didn't think they showed up till like 06, 07. No, that's when the iPhone dropped. Yeah, I guess it is when the first touch screen came out. That killed the BlackBerry. Well, you got to realize I was born in 99, so all this is like ancient lore to me. Right. I do remember being like six or seven and playing on my parents' BlackBerry. So I guess in my mind, the iPhone wasn't out for a long time after that, but it was. Yeah, that's true. Apologize for what? should probably give up for today. Wait for the first train. What's it like around the station? What's there?
1:11:46I hear what sounds like a beating drum mixed with some kind of bell way off in the distance. Honestly, I have no idea what to do at this point. Guess you're in hell, buddy. Yeah, they're gonna, brother, they're gonna box you up and send you off. God damn, dude. Holy hell. Dude, you hear beating that bell? This is the literal beginning of the first Animusha game. Good fucking luck, bud. You are fucked. They done pieced that man up. He is gone forever. He's going straight to the mansion from the last episode. Get back to the station for now, Hasumi. It's best to return to where you started when you're lost.
1:12:26Here's where... I love these comments that are egging it on. Here's where it gets going. Are they having a festival or what? You might think I'm kidding, but I'm too scared to look behind me. I don't want to go back to the station, but I don't dare turn around. Run and don't look back. You can't go back to the station now. Run through the tunnel. I'm sure you'll find you're not far. Someone behind me just yelled, hey, don't walk on the track. That's dangerous. I looked around expecting to see an attendant and saw one legged old man, but he vanished. I think I'm too scared to move. Bro, one legged old man.
1:13:05Middle of the woods at night. Hey asshole. at least I'd be kind of stuck and I'd be like well at least I can beat this old man's ass if he comes near me and fuck you up old man call him tic-tac boom there's some call him tic-tac there's something so menacing about a lot of these Japanese stories like their folklore which like you said someone's standing there but there's such I don't know there's such maliciousness associated with it so often it's like yeah it's just one-legged old man but with the drums and everything It's like that might be the devil, dude. I told you not to look back. Run. Calm down and listen to Big Bro, okay?
1:13:42Check out where the drum's coming from. There's... This dude's big dogging him. Calm down and listen to Big Bro, okay? Check out where the drum's coming from. There's bound to be somebody playing it. That's how drums work. Where the hell are you planning to take Hasumi? Why'd you know it was an old man if it just had a single leg? Uh, I think Hasumi meant an old man who lost one of his legs. Yeah, it wasn't just a leg floating in the distance. Must have been an old man who died and lost a leg after walking along the track. I can't walk or run any further. The drumming sounds like it's getting a little closer.
1:14:15Wait for dawn. It won't be scary in the daylight. I'm glad I stayed on the train. I'm still alive, but I fell and started bleeding. I broke a heel, so I'm sitting still in the ground. I don't want to die now. It should be safe if you leave the tunnel. Once you get out of there, call for help immediately. I called home. Dad's calling the police, but the sound keeps getting closer. I hope to God that's not the sound of the train, but it might be too late. I finally managed to make it to the front of the tunnel. The name says, Miss Inoki. The sound's still getting closer, so I'm going to have to leave the tunnel.
1:14:49I'm safe once I get out of the tunnel. I'll post again. Good luck. This is the end. Forget about trains and stations. Forget about going back. Forget about someone chasing you. The sound you're hearing is just something you imagined. Run out of the tunnel. If you stop, you'll only succumb to something which does not belong in this world. I left the tunnel. There's someone up ahead. It looks like all your advice was right after all. Thank you so much. My face is such a mess from tears. He might just mistake me for a monster. Wait, Hazumi, don't die on us. Stop, that can't be good. Someone there, this late at night?
1:15:28That's suspicious. He seems gentle and was worried for me. He called for a train to take me to the nearest station. Apparently there's some kind of business hotel there. I'm truly, truly thankful to all of you. Asumi, please answer me this one thing. Can you ask that man what that place is? Is he really gentle? He sounds kind of scary from what you said. That guy's no good. Why is he by the track at this hour? He must have been a corpse or something. Asumi, run! I asked him where it was. And he said it was Hina. It seems extremely unlikely though. Hasumi, get off the train. Excuse me, Hasumi, where's Hina?
1:16:10We've been headed toward the mountains for some time. It really doesn't strike me as a place where trains would go. Yet he stopped talking to me entirely. Probably because you're constantly messing with your phone. Hasumi, oh no, oh no. Did you contact your parents after you got out of the tunnel and received aid from this guy? Hasumi, please call 110. zero. This might be your last chance. My battery's almost run out. Things are getting strange, so I think I'm gonna make a run for it. He's been talking to himself about bizarre things for a while now. To prepare for just the right time, I'm going to make this post my last post for now.
1:16:48Afterward, Sumi was never heard from again. I love that shit, dude. That's fun. That's really fun. I love that shit. He like crossed, he got on a train that crossed over to the afterworld and he's just walking through like the final stops it almost feels like an evil version of uh spirited away yeah yeah i love this idea of yeah you get transported into a spirit world on unknowingly you're kind of just like wait what the fuck yeah yeah no i uh also i love that ted the caver shit of like hey maybe you'll hear from me again and that's where the post ends that being on a that being on a random message board rules yep that's just like the whole thing put together and it's old too I wonder back then if people really knew about like not necessarily trolls but I wonder if it's so much more where people are like I believe this like I have no reason to believe that this guy is lying to me like it is now now if anybody says anything online you're just like what the fuck ever dude shut up you know what I mean I'm so I feel like I at least I want to believe at this time that people were just so invested freaking out and that's the funniest thing is too is you don't even know who the commenters are those people could be that's I like to think too like when I went to Japan I mean you know it's i mean you travel everywhere on trains that's just that's what you do there's like no way to get around uh without it so i like to think how many of these people were on trains commenting and being like oh my fucking god you know it's like oh what if i'm yeah because a lot of the best urban legends tie into like real fears or worries people have it's like what if because when you get on a train you're completely at the will of the conductor right yeah what if one day you got onto a train and um you didn't stop what if you went somewhere else how could you get off what would you do yeah yeah uh it looks like it was actually adapted into a little it kind of looks low budget but a horror movie that's fun because it's already stationed that's pretty cool we're going back to tara again thank god uh she's doing this is another she's doing a or it's a story called kune kune yep uh there's another one by her beneath this called uh the note my brother left behind which looks pretty anyway uh yeah kune kune seems like she's put together a bunch of bangers from the looks yeah i mean i i legit while we were sitting there i ordered her book on amazon it looks really good like yeah looks sick all right well are you ready wait hold on where was the where did i read that last one where did we read that last story at was that not on creepypasta wiki that's creepypasta you're right i was making sure that wasn't her that recorded it yeah yeah yeah that's creepypasta wiki all right so another tar one kune kune is that how you'd pronounce that kune i think so i mean that's what i pictured as a couple of dumb genius yeah a southerner and a midwestern i've put the dumbest thing i've ever said in my life uh was said like 30 minutes ago or however long you know it feels like a lifetime ago now it was it was an hour and 10 minutes ago but yeah uh that was not the dumbest thing you've ever said in your life don't worry oh thank you you said far dumber welcome that's kind this happened when i went to visit my grandmother's house as a child we only went to visit my grandmother's house once a year during obon so as soon as we got there i took off at full speed with my older brother to play outside.
1:20:08It's entirely different to the city. The air is so fresh and clean. I took in the refreshing breeze as my brother and I ran around the rice fields. Then, as the sun rose high in the sky and stood right above us, the wind suddenly stopped. Well, that's what I thought, but then a disgustingly warm breeze blew instead. It's already hot at the best of times. Why is it such a warm breeze blowing now? I complained, angry that the cool breeze had been snatched away from me. I noticed my brother was looking in another direction, towards a scarecrow in the distance. What's up with that? I asked him. No, not that.
1:20:46Past that. He replied, strained his eyes even harder to see. I wanted to see as well and looked intently over the rice fields. Then I saw it. What was that? It was far in the distance, so I couldn't tell what it was. it was about the size of a human but it was white and swaying to and fro i don't like that dude no i don't like that and now you know the moment i read that it's storming right now see i'm talking and out my window right here out my window right here to the left where this tree limb is it keeps like bowing in and out and i'd thought of that as soon as i read that it was swaying about the size of it i hate the sentence it was about the size of a human there's so many assumptions they're like why are you calling it it what do you mean about which way is it about why is so it's not a human then like i just even just the thing of swaying to and fro like almost like a dance or something is just i don't know yeah i also hate that because it's like it reminds it makes me think that it's going to take off towards you at any moment you know there was nothing around here but rice fields.
1:21:59No reason for any people to be nearby. For a moment I felt strange, but then I tried to explain it. Isn't that just a new type of scarecrow? It has to be. Until now, scarecrows have never moved, so a farmer or someone must have thought it up. They probably just started moving with that wind just before. My brother's expression said that he agreed with my precise explanation, but in an instant, it disappeared. The wind had stopped, and yet the white thing in the distance was still swaying. Hey, that thing's still moving. What the hell is it? He said, surprised in his voice. He wanted to know what it was, so he returned to the house and came back with a pair of binoculars.
1:22:44He seemed excited. I'm going to take a look at first, so just wait a minute. He said and eagerly peered through the binoculars. Then, suddenly, his face changed. Before my eyes, he started to turn blue and broke out into a cold sweat. Finally, he dropped the binoculars he was holding. Terrified of my brother's transformation, I asked him. What was it? He answered me very slowly. You're better off not knowing. Oh gosh. It wasn't my brother's voice. Just like that, he turned and steadily returned to the house. I went to pick up the binoculars, but look at what turned my brother's face instantly blue.
1:23:32But perhaps because of what he said, I couldn't find the courage to do it. But something was bothering me. From far away, it just looked like something white, swaying strangely. It was a little weird, but other than that, it wasn't especially scary. But my brother. I had to look. I had to see what my brother saw. You're that scary, huh? Well, I'll decide that with my own two eyes. I picked up the fallen binoculars and went to look. My father suddenly came running towards me. Before I could even ask, What's wrong? my father rushed towards me. Don't look at that white thing! Did you see it? Did you look at it through the binoculars?
1:24:16No, not yet! I replied, confused. No, thank God. my father said falling to the ground in relief we went back to the house i had no idea what was going on when we got back everyone was crying is this because of me no not me when i looked closer i could see my brother laughing like a madman he was moving about like that white thing Swain. Swain. Seeing my brother like that, he was scarier than whatever that white thing was. Then, when it was time for us to return home, my grandmother said, It would be better for everyone if you left him here. It'll be easier for him to live here. The place is small, and if you think about your neighbors, they won't wait even a few days before leaving him here.
1:25:08The best thing to do is to release him into the rice fields after a few years. my fucking lord oh my god dude god damn all right granny fuck sakes dude hearing those words i broke out into tears i never see my brother like he was again even if we came back again the following year that wouldn't be my brother why did this happen we were just playing around having fun why i furiously wiped my tears got in the car and we left the house behind as our grandparents waved goodbye just for a moment i thought i saw my brother wave too as we got further away i wanted to see my brother's face one more time so i looked through the binoculars and he was most definitely crying his expression was that of laughter, but it was the first and last time he would smile so sadly again.
1:26:07Then as we turned the corner and I could no longer see him, broke out into tears once more, not taking my eyes away from the binoculars. One day you'll come back, right? I thought. I looked out over the green fields while remembering and missing my brother. Then, while I was thinking about my brother, i looked through the binoculars that was when it happened i saw the thing up close that i knew i should never see and what a great one man man that got me what a great man just like the thing in the field so there's a recurring thing in a lot of these stories about like adults knowing something that the kids exposed to you know i just like never panicking or having to do something to help never fully given the reader the full gist of the story and just kind of coming in on a random moment is just so fun honestly i think that's a great one to end on i think that's a that's a that's a really really fun one i really like uh a lot again how a lot of the japanese legends have so much weight behind them there's so much you could do with them and a lot of them are just so brutal like the train station to hell or that takes you to the afterlife and to me knows hell.
1:27:23Of course, that one's a classic, but then you also have stuff like, um, the one we just read where it's something unspeakable in the fields or the kind of the same vibe that the Hoshiku Hoshaku Sama does. Where's this tall woman. And there's some other popular Japanese legends too. Like there's a slit mouth woman who approaches you and she has a mask on. She says, want to see my smile? And she pulls it down and her face is cut open and she kills you. There's the other one, the Teke Teke, uh, which is the woman who, and if I believe in most regards was run over by a train or someone threw her on the train tracks that she was run over so she's just an upper torso with arms that like chases you down the road at night but she can move really fast there's so many really brutal ones it's interesting how you can take these horror concepts and do so much with them that makes them so much more than just the initial scare or premise uh like the white thing in the field like the white swain thing in the fields enough but then seeing what it does to the brother and things like that terrifying like dude there's it's like you said earlier if there's one group who knows how to keep you up at night it's japanese the uh just so much good shit today beautiful poetry also i will say i am very very curious to keep reading tara's work tara a devlin once again we'll link her uh amazon shop or just some books or whatever in the description uh both stories you read by her were phenomenal I'm just, I mean, also too, I really love just even the screenplay format of the, uh, or not screenplay, but just like, it's nothing but comments.
1:28:52I mean, I feel like we haven't done that since, uh, is that kind of how faced my, my girlfriend messaged me on Facebook? Is that kind of the similar of like the comment section or not really? I can't remember. I think that one was just longer posts, but I see. Yeah. Uh, we've done some before that are common sections like that. Yeah. I always liked that back and forth. It's really, really fun. And I think that the once again just these things of it's just a fun way of doing like we're not seeing the horror we're kind of like experiencing it with the commenters i think that's a lot of fun i i liked all of them though i mean i really i i don't know if i have a favorite one of all of them i mean i think the uh hashaku sama i really like that one i think of like just the tall woman just the bobbing of the head i think the setup is good i like the kind of like ritualistic also two different stories from um tara here where it's like a generational horror of like a dad at the end of uh kune kune running up and being like don't fucking look at that while the grandfather yeah in uh hishaku sama uh was pretty much like well fuck i guess i gotta go kill a demon i gotta go deep you know exercise you or something well it's kind of like that thing with uh there's so much history behind all the horror it stands to reason that generations would be affected by it you know yeah no it's it also seems like things that are just like undeniable or like they're not they're totally um you have no control over it is one but then also it's like things that don't just affect every generation like that's one thing i really liked with ashaku sama is it's a spirit that does possess people but you're just hoping it's like a cancer or something you're just praying to god that it's like does not affect you you know uh which i thought was really just a lot of fun i I don't know.
1:30:35Also, too, just as this theme grab bag was just really fucking fun. I feel like we need to do more themed grab bags. Yeah, well, normally we try to put something to them. But yeah, you're right. Japanese ones have been pretty cool. I guess just even culturally. I think maybe just the cultural grab bag, like maybe next time we can do something just from, you know, I mean, stories that are fixated in other people's culture that are all specifically the same versus just like, you know, subject matter like, you know, oh, they're all ghost stories or something. I think that doing more cultural grab bags would be a lot of fun.
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