In short
A Southern family of seven brothers is raised on a decaying estate under strict rules: they can go to town but must not speak to women. On their 18th birthdays, the father leads each brother through a chapel trapdoor into underground chambers where a giant moth-like “mother” creature mates with them. The creature births only boys; when a girl is born, she’s killed. Later, the creature is enraged and gives birth in agony, revealing a cocoon and a baby that the narrator believes is his.
Guest backgrounds
No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s just the hosts (Hunter and Isaiah) reacting while reading the story.
Key claims
The “no women” rule is enforced because the moth mother can’t control the baby’s sex. The creature is the literal ancestor/“mother” of the family, having birthed generations of boys. The father has participated repeatedly and knows what happens.
Notable examples
The chapel trapdoor ceremony; Jamie’s 18th birthday where he’s left underground; the narrator’s tunnel lined with burning candles and the “bed” creature with antennae and black eyes; the final scene where the creature’s body ripples, screams, and a cocoon ruptures with a crying baby.
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Chapters
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0:03 to 2:27
The hosts introduce the episode and discuss their Patreon.
“The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money.”
Discussion of the Story: We Weren't Allowed To Talk To Women
2:27 to 5:35
The hosts introduce and discuss the themes of the story.
“But if you are interested in supporting that and some of the other kind of things we have going on behind the scenes, feel free to check it out.”
Background on the Author and Story
5:35 to 7:47
The hosts provide background information on the author and story details.
“We didn't even say anything about the author.”
Exploration of Family Dynamics and Strange Rules
7:47 to 14:00
The hosts dive into the unique family dynamics and rules of communication in the story.
“game and flustered uh we can continue i was born into one of those old families of the south the kind that has long silence toppled and decayed attempting desperately to hold itself together.”
Discussion of 'Wolfpack' Documentary
14:00 to 15:36
Exploring the themes and unique aspects of the documentary 'Wolfpack'.
Childhood Memories and Secrets
15:37 to 18:18
A narrative about childhood interactions and the resulting family dynamics.
“Soon, he was sneaking off to be with her during our visits.”
The Mystery of Jamie's Disappearance
18:19 to 19:56
The unfolding tension surrounding Jamie's mysterious late-night outings.
“Next time we went to town, the ice cream girl batted her eyes at Jamie, but he stared straight away from her.”
The Influence of the Chapel
19:57 to 23:14
A deeper look into the implications of the chapel on family relationships.
“They stepped in time to some silent rhythm.”
The Influence of the Chapel
23:21 to 23:31
A deeper look into the implications of the chapel on family relationships.
Rituals and Family Secrets
23:32 to 28:01
The narrator's tense expectations leading up to their own 18th birthday.
“change but he was the same jamie had always been the only answer to our questions we received was a hard sock in the arm when we bothered him too much a few months later pa came into our room in the middle of the night.”
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A Descent into Darkness
28:01 to 31:00
Experience the eerie journey down into a hidden earthen tunnel filled with mystery.
“so you can hear the church bells but they're not from it doesn't or it seems supernatural is not coming from the actual bell on top of the church.”
Confronting the Creature
31:01 to 40:56
A horrifying encounter with a monstrous figure that embodies family secrets and legacy.
“So quiet in the, in the tunnel that you, I just, that description was really nice.”
The Unthinkable Union
40:57 to 42:00
Explore the terrifying and surreal implications of a twisted familial connection.
Traumatic Encounter with the Moth Creature
42:00 to 46:34
Listeners will learn about a surreal and traumatic experience involving a moth creature and its unsettling nature.
“I know now that I wasn't in my right mind and recalling it makes me nauseous.”
The Dark Secrets of the Family
47:24 to 56:01
Discover the ominous revelations about family secrets and the implications of their legacy.
“I slept dreamlessly for hours and hours.”
A Terrifying Encounter with the Creature
56:01 to 1:00:49
Experience a gripping narrative of a character's terrifying encounter with a monstrous being and the desperate choices he faces.
“Its black eyes groaned wide and shining, reflecting the candlelight.”
Reflecting on Generational Trauma
1:00:50 to 1:06:04
Dive into a discussion on the themes of generational trauma and the impact of the family's dark legacy on the characters.
“I mean, not eat, to breed, and then they die, I'm pretty sure.”
Exploration of the Story's Themes
1:06:05 to 1:10:04
A thoughtful examination of the story's themes, character dynamics, and the implications of the creature's curse.
“There was some attempt to, like, push it back.”
Short Episode Recap and Listener Engagement
1:10:04 to 1:11:15
The hosts recap a short episode and encourage audience engagement.
“Well, guys, thank you so much for listening today.”
Short Episode Recap and Listener Engagement
1:11:16 to 1:12:48
The hosts recap a short episode and encourage audience engagement.
“my level of discomfort in all of that was fitting compared to the level of comfort i had last week so i guess we're even bye Thank you.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This episode is brought to you by PayPal. You know how a mom's bag has everything? Sunscreen? Snacks? A stapler? The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money. Shop, pay, manage your account, and earn rewards all in one place. And with purchase protection on eligible items, biometric security, and pass keys, you're protected at every step. Download the new PayPal app to get started. See paypal.com slash protection terms. For decades, a shadowy organization called the Lemonati has kept lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Look around, lemon-forward sodas, even lemon-forward songs. We ran the tracks, slowed them down, reversed them, and squeezed out the truth.
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1:13if you can't get enough of hunter and i telling each other scary stories for some reason then i'm excited to announce there's a new way for you to get extra content and that's because of the new creepcast patreon that is right we now have a patreon page and those who join will be able to get ad-free uploads of the standard Creepcast episodes, exclusive content posted twice per month, exclusive voting power on new videos or new video topics, early announcements to things that we're doing like perhaps maybe tours or merch drops, as well as early ticket access to those events. Now to make it clear, nothing is changing on the Creepcast YouTube channel, Spotify, Apple Podcast, all of that will remain the same.
1:52We're still posting those every week, but if you want to see some bonus content that only diehard fans may be interested in things like reddit reactions or interviews with authors from some of the stories we read then we'll be uploading those over onto patreon once again twice a month if you don't want to join and just keep watching the youtube videos or listening to spotify then nothing has changed and thank you so much for your support but if you do choose to support us on patreon and therefore support some of the more outlandish ideas we have for creepcast in the future then it really does mean the world and hopefully we can make that five dollar donation worth your time link will be in the description thank you all for the love and please enjoy the episode as i certainly did a little too much welcome back to creep test today we are going to do something that sounds uh sounds something that's very familiar to us isaiah which is the story is called we weren't allowed to talk to women that is the uh and i will say right off the bat there is a not safe for work tag on this so don't know what that's about but super optimistic this is a you know compared to anything else this one's obviously much shorter than last week's episode which was Mother Horse Eyes 11 hours just 11 hours so we are kind of just giving ourselves a bit of rest and recoup with this but also the title's fun and also we wanted to plug that we do have a Patreon on the Patreon we are reading a story called blackout that will be available this week as well.
3:26But if you are interested in supporting that and some of the other kind of things we have going on behind the scenes, feel free to check it out. Patreon slash creep cast. If you like extra content, if you want more of our disgusting smiles and faces, Isaiah, just smile to the camera for a little bit. We've got a bunch of like ideas for what we're going to do over on the Patreon to clarify. Nothing's changing on the YouTube slash audio platform uploads. Still doing one a week. Nothing changes there. just if you want some bonus content and also want to show us some port for some ideas hunter and i have in the future that require a little bit of an investment uh you can you can kill two birds with one stone by joining over there and thank you so much to everyone that's already joined the support even not having like a formal formal video announcement yet it's been very cool to see so thank you guys very much for that it means a lot yeah no we appreciate the support and also too just like a little stuff like post and polls of like what do you want us to read submissions that kind of stuff uh and i'm sure we'll kind of knock out the kinks as well but we got some fun stuff there but also be sure to check us out on spotify and apple podcast if you're an audio listener right now if you're listening on youtube maybe consider checking us out on spotify it helps us out absolutely otherwise than that let's get into our life blood hold on hold on hold on hold on i have to i have to make i have to make a the joke real quick because there was a chance to say this title applies to both of us because i grew up you know very like christian very like you know be behave around women kind of thing and you were told this because they had restraining orders on you that you know that was a hysterical joke well i had it in my head and it had to come out at some point so that's i was it was going to be more natural but because you wouldn't you wouldn't let me speak i had to i had to you know put it out there somehow so isaiah isaiah to yourself read the the second line of the second paragraph a long winding lineage marked with rape and slavery okay okay well i said read it to yourself and it's okay okay well that's that's awesome thank you for so hey i did not i did not choose today's episode i did not pick this hunter's like hey i've got a story for us to read and the first thing i see related to the story is that so that's awesome i chortled myself we weren't allowed to talk to women i said so i said i said oh that's silly i said all and then he read it and then he read it and he got to that sentence I just read and he's like the story's about me
5:50this is all about me I can't talk to women and those things that's me we have got to edit that out no we're not absolutely not of all the things I have said on the show that is not even top five top ten no no no no and I'm the one who said it not you I said it about you so about me I know that's why it's even worse all right yeah you had nothing to do with that okay whatever that we weren't allowed to talk to women a hunter hancock special that windigoon had nothing to do with written by sola solace that a hunter hancock special that i had nothing to do with all right i was born into one of those old families of the south the kind that has long silence toppled and decayed tempting desperately to hold itself together oh wait we didn't we didn't even say I feel bad.
6:42We didn't even say anything about the author. I did. I said, I said, you got me all this. I said, written by Solis. I said, written by Solis. You kept favor. That's all you did. You put me in a defensive position. Put in a defensive position with this. You put yourself in your own position. I didn't put you in that now. You put me in positions all the time. Let's get that straight. Okay. So the website is no longer up, but they had their own website. They haven't posted on Reddit in three years, but in their bio, it says that they're an aspiring author. It says they recently cleared out this account of posts and comments to keep it solely focused on my writing post.
7:25My subreddit r slash Solace is where I cross post my works and helpful links. So we'll leave that in the description. I also have a coffee you can check out or Ko-Fi, however you pronounce that. so solace wrote it the story has 11 000 upvotes on r slash no sleep which is pretty solid um so yeah be sure to check them out we'll leave them linked in the description show support for the author as always and now and now that that's out of the way now that hunters got me knocked off my game and flustered uh we can continue i was born into one of those old families of the south the kind that has long silence toppled and decayed attempting desperately to hold itself together.
8:06We'd had money, once, as evidenced by the grand old buildings that set on our property, but the old barns and guest houses set empty and abandoned, choked with cobwebs and weeds and Spanish moss. The forest had begun to reclaim the property. My family was like many others of its kind, a long, winding lineage marked with rape and slavery and pain. But one thing set us apart. There were no women in my family. I had no mother, no sisters or grandmothers. Every member of my family was male now Isaiah do you do you think that we're going into egg territory you'd like that wouldn't you it's a man laying eggs kind of oh little little dinosaur men running around the south I'm good for one that's what we are thank you my wife is a front to keep appearances up.
9:02But I think the idea is it's going to be some kind of ritual brings the guys forward or something like that. Given the title, we weren't allowed to talk to women. That or they kill women after they, you know, get there or it is marked not safe for work and this is a story you picked. So or dinosaur men. I don't think dinosaur. Why can't we never get into a title? Do you think that you could never get into a dinosaur human? Hold on. We absolutely, we absolutely had a dinosaur horror story and you hated it. What was that one? The Gregory 88, the Twitter ARG. That wasn't dinosaurs. Those are just big eggs.
9:40No, no, it turns out to be eggs and you see an image of them and it's like a skull dinosaur face thing running around and you were mad. I don't remember that. Well, it must've done it. I'm saying that if we had something where they said blatantly, blatantly, they were dinosaur humanoids. Do you think you couldn't do that? Do you not remember that one? The pigeons around here aren't real or whatever where people are being grown in eggs. It's not about the eggs, Isaiah. I'm saying that if it was dinosaur humanoids. That's what I'm saying. It's blatantly that. I'm saying like Velociraptor stuff. I'm asking you a question.
10:15The question I'm asking is could you successfully do that or would it be too cheesy that no one would take it seriously? I don't think you can have a legitimate threat in a story that you are like dinosaur human hybrids but you could play into that and get like some jurassic park-esque moments i guess that could be effective that's unfortunate i think you have to lean into it though i don't think i don't think dinosaur humanoids can be taken seriously that's sad i wonder if there's ever a way i mean i mean maybe if it's like a future story or an alien story or something like that but i feel like when you jump the shark that much you have to lean into it i feel like there's some premises that are so um outlandish that they don't lend themselves to reality now that doesn't mean you can't have creepy moments and stuff but the overall tone of the story i think can't sit well in a serious note if the idea of it is so far-fetched yeah all right well i'm trying to think if there's any i'm sure one will come to mind but like i mean there's stuff with like aliens like alien the movie alien with the xenomorph like that has scary moments yeah but it's not like a dinosaur maybe if you're setting it's not a dinosaur exactly it's not a human dinosaur hybrid so yeah i don't know i can't think of anything to counter that statement so i'll stick by it for now my five brothers and i never thought it strange though we were uneducated and mostly separated from the outside world our days were spent laboring on the decaying property all of our efforts inevitably useless.
11:50When we weren't plucking weeds or clearing out the decades of trash from the various buildings, we played. The quasi-wilderness of our home was a perfect stage for our games. My father was a kind man, but strict. Our self-contained life came with a strange set of rules. There was a chapel on the property, a small white thing half hidden in the woods. It was in better condition than anything else due to my father's doting care. We were not allowed inside the chapel without him. However, a padlock on the door prevented us from sneaking in. We were, on occasion, allowed to go to town. It was a half-hour walk through the woods to get there, and excursions were highly anticipated.
12:31There were conditions, though. We had to stick together, and we weren't allowed to talk to women. We could talk to men and other boys, but my father strictly forbade us from talking to women girls even old mates he instructed us to say hello and good day and yes ma 'am and thank you ma 'am like good little southern boys but other than that not a word this was weird of course but everyone in town seemed to abide by these rules as well the woman would give us curt nods and avoid us otherwise it was so ingrained into our daily lives that none of us ever questioned it uh do you remember there was this documentary that came out a while back i think it was called the wolf pack pretty sure that's name it was about a group of boys who their father never let them leave their room and like their mother was out of the picture i forget why but it was like seven brothers or five brothers who all lived in an apartment building in new york and i guess they were homeschooled or didn't go to school or something um and once a year their father would like take them across the street to get ice cream but other than that they never left the apartment but all they did was watch movies every day like that was their only interaction with the outside world so all of them talked and behaved like they were movie characters like these dramatic over the top things like they would all they were all like caricature cameo types of like I'm the cool slick trickster guy yeah hold on let me find it you said this is a documentary yeah yeah yeah I think it's called Wolfpack so there's a guy who acts like Arnold Schwarzenegger and there's a guy who acts like Danny Zuko from Greece and stuff well I distinctly remember all of them dress like Reservoir Dogs characters they all love Reservoir Dogs so they all have like nicknames for each other and wear suits and walk around Mr.
14:18Brown all that kind of stuff so the Wolf Pack is a 2015 man I thought this was older is a 2015 American documentary it's about the Angulo family who homeschooled and raised their seven children six boys and one girl in the confinement of their apartment in Lower East Side Manhattan yeah so it's like they all just watch movies all the time and that's their interaction so like the documentary if I remember right it follows them like going out to the real world quote-unquote like you know they learn around the outside world by watching films eventually begin to reenact scenes from their favorite movies using elaborate homemade props and costumes their father Oscar had the only key to the door of their 16-story four-bedroom apartment he prohibited the children or their mother Suzanne who homeschooled the children oh the mother was in the picture okay i'm misremembering parts except for a few strictly monitor trips on the nefarious streets of new york uh everything changed when the 15 year old um mukanda decided to walk around the neighborhood in 2010 against oscars instruction so a lot of the movies about them like experiencing the real world and seeing that it's a lot more boring than movies make it out to be like every interaction they have with people they expect to be some big dramatic like thing but it's not and they're kind of sad about it if I remember right yeah it's a very very strange movie but anyway that combined with like this just being a group of boys going out not allowed to talk to women reminded me of that okay I can see the connection also I'm very interested sorry I was reading as well I am interested in watching this I hope that one of them is like deeply entrenched into like like everyone's like Quentin Tarantino movies and there's one guy who's like just like mean girls like i love or like rob schneider movies that's it he's acting like deuce bigelow male gigolo i love nicholas sparks that's all i can't get enough of it now this uh this video seems this documentary seems 100 like something you'd cover in a papa meat video i like that it wasn't going to work forever of course my oldest brother jamie started making eyes at the pretty girl who worked at the drugstore ice cream counter.
16:30She made eyes back. Soon, he was sneaking off to be with her during our visits. He would leave my brothers and I at the drugstore at the park, buying our silence with penny candy and ice cream. Jamie's little tryst didn't last long, though. Laszlo, the second youngest, had always been loose-lipped. One day when we came back from town, our father asked us what we did. Jamie snuck off Laszlo blurted He always goes and sneaks off to see that ice cream girl Pa's face grew very pale He turned to Jamie and seized him by the shoulders Is that true? He asked in a voice that was much too quiet You're seeing a girl?
17:09A tense silence hung over us Jamie opened his mouth Closed it Jamie, come join me on my porch Pa said icily my father never hit us i want to make that clear but when he was truly angry or upset he had a way of talking that cut you to the bone made you feel like absolute dog shit when i was really little got in trouble i would hide and cry for hours afterwards consumed by guilt jamie and pa went onto the porch the rest of us dispersed throughout the house happy mood of the day soured for a A couple weeks afterwards, we beat on Laszlo especially hard and gave him the worst roles in our games. After that, he mostly kept his mouth shut.
17:52Jamie returned with a pale face. He didn't talk to any of us until the morning where he tried to act like nothing had happened. I caught him alone that day. I tucked on his sleeve and asked him, What did Paul say to you the other night? Jamie looked down at me. His face suddenly seemed very old. He gave me a weak smile and tousled my hair. Not your business. Don't worry about it. I wasn't in the habit of displeasing my older brother, so I went along with my life. Next time we went to town, the ice cream girl batted her eyes at Jamie, but he stared straight away from her. She frowned sadly. She wasn't as nice to us after that.
18:28There isn't much else to say of my childhood. He was unique, surely, but we had always lived our lives that way, and I was not questioning the type. Our existence continued rather uneventfully for years. My brother and I cleaned old houses that would never be occupied and weeded yards that would never be used. Forest grew in faster than we could pluck. Then came the day when Jamie turned 18. Birthdays were frequent in a family of seven, but turning 18, that was special, according to Pa. On the special day, Pa got us all up early and scrubbed our faces with a spit-wet cloth. He made us put on our best clothes, moth-eaten from disuse.
19:08he gave Jamie one of his old suits and it hung baggy on his thin frame then we gathered in the chapel inside the air was still and silent I remember feeling disappointed Hunter I have terrible news what so I was recording this whole time but I accidentally had display capture open so I was not recording my camera until this moment
19:40you're going to be in blackness then my friend just like when my camera went out yeah but whatever image you use of me I just ask that it's not the kind of I ask the editor that it's not the kind of image Hunter would want to use of me it'll be fine whatever that be okay alright whatever well there's nothing I can do it's my fault I guess okay anyway hi everyone first time for the video okay i remember feeling disappointed at the side of the perfectly normal interior i always expected there to be some great terrible secret that my father was guarding but it was just an old chapel we sat in the front pew all in a row paul and jamie hung back at the door they exchanged some quiet words and then began to walk they marched arm in arm, staring stiffly ahead.
20:33They stepped in time to some silent rhythm. Slowly they made their way up the aisle. My father bent behind the pulpit. The sound of creaking wood broke into her silence. He had opened a trap door. Pa and Jamie, still arm in arm, ascended into the door. Downstairs, we couldn't see from our angle. My brothers and I sat uncomfortably in the pew, restless but quiet. I felt a strange swelling sensation, like something enormous was happening that I couldn't comprehend. I channeled this by plucking wildly at the loose threads of my ill-fitting pants. My brothers and I sat nervously for a while, until Pa emerged again, alone.
21:12He shut the trap door behind him. Time to go home, boys. I wanted to ask where Jamie was, but my tongue felt heavy. Instead, I fell into a step behind him, and we made a solemn procession back to the rotting mansion where we lived. Jesus, they didn't even take Jamie back with them they left him yeah they just left him down the trap door opened a fucking trap door and he's like alright we're back home boys that would kind of fuck me up I mean that's freaky it's the building that their entire life has been hyped up but they can never go in and then they go in your oldest brother goes down the stairs and then alright that's it only your fucking snaggletooth dad comes back out that would bum me out that's a bit of a bummer uh seeing your brother lost in the derelict chapel yeah that's kind of sad paul i'm a little depressing i'm sad like paul feel bad about it can i tell you a secret i'm in desperate need of medical attention and care i'm so old fat i'm falling apart at the seams but i don't know what doctor to use.
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23:31jamie was there the next morning snoring in his bed next to mine we all scrutinized him for some change but he was the same jamie had always been the only answer to our questions we received was a hard sock in the arm when we bothered him too much a few months later pa came into our room in the middle of the night. I'd been lying awake, but I pretended to sleep as he quietly roused Jamie and let him out the door. I dozed very lightly only to be reawoken when I heard them coming back up the stairs. Jamie made his way to his bed slowly. In the faint moonlight, I could see that his shoulders were shaking.
24:06Crawled under the covers, I could hear the muffled sound of him sobbing. Good God. Uh-oh. I'm like wondering, do you think it's going to be something where it's like, you can't talk to other women because maybe this entity or something will get jealous. It could even be like a motherly. Yeah, it could be. It could also be like maybe they're not actually a family. Maybe it's like the dad has these boys captured or kidnapped or they're part of some order or something like that. They could very well not be his. Yeah, and they just think they are and when they turn 18, they're part of some ritual forced to be a part of something.
24:45But I do think it involves female figures like a wife entity or a mother entity mother seems more right because it's like a family dynamics yeah or it could just be a human trafficking operation that would be swell that'd be very fun and happy it also thought it was weird that despite there being seven of them right they all live in the same room you know like it's a mansion but they all sleep in one place that's kind of odd right yeah i mean kind of i mean even like old southern houses they were built to have like multiple generations of families live in them. So I whatever I'm thinking here is he's prepping his sons for probably what the dad had to do when he was younger as well.
25:26I'm just wondering what that I keep saying entity could be nothing down there, but or not not nothing, but I mean, it might not even be something supernatural. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm tracking after that. Jamie was different. He was withdrawn and angry. Stopped playing with us and was quick to yell. There's an angry tension between him and Paul. Even as young as I was, I knew the change had something to do with that strange place in the chapel. I wouldn't have to wait long to find out the secret of our family. After all, I was the second oldest. My birthday came that November. I remember every second of that day.
26:03Paul woke me before my brothers. This is also a fun dynamic where like we see all the things that happened to Jamie and now it's like okay now our narrator is going to go through it, whatever it was. Kind of even more torturous if you think about it. You see your your brother go through something yeah you see your brother go through all that stuff right and you know that you're like okay well that happened on his 18th birthday that's gonna happen to me this november that'd be that would be uh a bit torturous pa woke me before my brothers he brought me into the master suite where he spent the nights of his lonely existence the room might have once been grand but now the walls were ashy with cigarette smoke and it smelled like stale living the bed sheets were rumpled on only one side it made me sad to think of pa sleeping alone every night in that huge moth-eaten bed.
26:45Pa dressed me in the same suit that Jamie had worn. Fit me a little better. This feels very um not Nightmare Before Christmas. What's the one where they're all dead? The Corpse's Bride. This feels very Corpse's Bride. Like all them in like the rot, the underground area stuff like that. It's almost like they're all dead. It fit me a little better. I was fuller and shorter than he was. I looked in the mirror and felt a flash of pride. I was a proper gentleman for once. Like those clean-cut men in the old magazines we sometimes found while cleaning, no longer a dirty-faced little boy. Pa stepped back after fixing my tie, his eyes shining.
27:23Harsh line of his mouth wobbled as he rubbed his thumb across my cheekbone. I'm so proud of you, he said and hugged me. My chest swelled with warmth and pride. We walked through the woods to the little white chapel. It was cool. The woods were alive in red and orange. my brother scattered in the pews while pa and i waited outside the doors looped his arm through mine and looked at me just follow my lead he murmured patted my arm his words soothed me doors of the chapel swung open at their own and the sound of the church bells echoed through the woods though the rusty bell and the tower sat still but i wasn't afraid so you can hear the church bells but they're not from it doesn't or it seems supernatural is not coming from the actual bell on top of the church.
28:09Okay. Pa walks me down the aisle towards the empty pulpit. We walked in time to the toll of the bells, something I realized only the two of us could hear. Oh. God. My brothers whispered and fidgeted in the pew. Jamie sat on the far end, staring straight ahead, his eyes dull, back stiff. We ascended. Behind the pulpit lay the secret trap door. Ancient, moldered. Pa gave the rusted brass ring a mighty pull, and it opened with a creak. For us lay a stone staircase, riddled with cracks and dappled with moss and mushrooms. The shallow stairs led into the dark. For the first time that day, I felt something other than anticipation and pride.
28:50I was afraid. But I think, looking back, that I would have been unable to leave if I tried. Pa and I walked carefully down the stairs. Still held tight to my arm, we emerged into an earthen tunnel, tall enough for us to walk upright, though roots from the ceiling brushed our heads. For a moment, we stood still. There was a strange sputtering sound, and a breeze blew from the darkness ahead. That should have been impossible, as the tunnels seemed to only go deeper into the ground. But as the breeze came, so did light. Alcoves had been scooped into the earthen walls, and tens of candles suddenly burst to life in their wax-filled recesses.
29:31i jumped as the sudden light revealed hundreds of moss they took off excited by the flame their soft wings flapped and brushed against my cheek as upon i walked down the tunnel my apprehension grew started shaking fostered resolute by my side his presence steadying i don't know how long we walked in silence the tunnel was not without its own sound the pop of fat from the candles the drip of moisture from the ceiling the tamping of our shoes and the fluttering of moth wings. I landed on my shoulders and my head, bounced off of my face often. I wanted to ask Pa where we were going, but, and again, I stayed silent.
30:09Soon, I became aware of a faint, sweet smell. Almost at the same time, the candlelight revealed a door. Moss were clustered around it so thickly that it appeared the frame was made of a canvas of pale, shivering wings. Pa turned to me, the flickering candlelight, olives of his face were cast in sharp relief. He looks more like an ape than a man. This is where I leave you, son. He said with his arms on my shoulders. Don't be afraid. You won't be hurt, I promise. Just do what nature tells you to do. Oh, no. Hunter. This, uh, so then he leaves, he's gonna leave him here, and that's what happened on Jamie's birthday as well, but I'm wondering yeah, nature, I know, yeah, it's gonna be might be might be uh yeah
31:00um I really loved all the descriptive uh stuff of like the moth wings pattering the like I just imagine like little droplet sounds you know like the moisture dropping from this tunnel and even just like the fire, like the wick burning and dancing. So quiet in the, in the tunnel that you, I just, that description was really nice. It really put me like, sunk me in, like wrapped me like a blanket. It was really good. The writing's great. Like the, the, the quality of writing measured tones and stuff. Awesome. Nature though. Um, what's really funny is as soon as you hear nature in that context, the first thing you go to is, uh, in the jungle.
31:48so I can only imagine that that is what plays in your head never you
31:57saw that I was shaking and he let his hand on my face this is our family's legacy Eli Jamie did this I did this my father before me did this it's as old and ancient as our blood Older even. Nothing's going to harm you. Okay? I choked out. My father smiled wanly and turned and left me before the door. It disappeared back the way we came, and I was alone. Cautiously, I pushed open the stone door. The moss fluttered away from it, forming a cloud that I had to bat away to see. The chamber that I emerged into was huge. The walls were lined with hundreds of alcoves with candles burning bright. More candles were spread across the floor.
32:51Across from me, there was a great white bed. Oh no. Surrounded by gossamer curtains. The sweet smell was overpowering, undercut by something primal and funky, like body odor. Dirty pussy. Then, the bed moved. From midside unfolded pairs of strange appendages. I struggled to comprehend what I was seeing. They were arms. Human arms. Ending in human hands. But they bent in too many places. And they were too long and pale. Long tendrils like feathers flared from their elbows. It wasn't a bed. Ah, shit. It was a person. Perhaps in the loosest sense of the word. its body was huge white and bloated oh fuck but i thought were pillows were actually huge pendulous breasts oh yeah pair of nipples god damn well the swell of the bed's comforter was a huge stomach sagging down to the ground and ripples of white flesh oh damn dude imagine your dad drops you off in the first bit of pussy and your life is this giant like fluffy pillow fuck monster.
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34:10Do you think that's a wait? So wait. So he's like, Hey, I had to do it. Paul had to do it. Grandpa, Grandpa Benji had to do it. You know, it's funny. You know, it's funny about this. Last week was my episode. It was, it was, it was my episode. Yeah. Yeah. It was ridiculously long. It was about the CIA and God and giants and all that stuff went on for 11 hours like up my alley this one is an hour and a half probably it's about a giant bed woman that these guys are forced to pair with and like hey but seriously don't talk to no broads when you're out and about you're gonna upset the pillow woman you get to do a funny accent I love it this is definitely my kind of episode this is your kind of episode one for them one for me kind of thing also like a body horror monster like even the way that he described her arms so far disjointed like I'm imagining like multiple jointed arms like it's like bending and all kinds of weird shit at first it was like spider legs or something is how I kind of pictured the arms at first you know what i mean but the bed itself is a whole person yeah yeah yeah this sounds like something you would make for one of your um like a margaret kind of thing like one of your uh papa meat house creatures right it's an entire bed but the bed is a thing like a person yeah as i watched a pair of the arms reach to gently part gossamer curtains like a bride lifting a veil.
35:53Its face. How to describe its face. Once, cleaning trash out of our house, I found an old China doll. It had a puffy, exaggerated expression of innocence, though time had worn the paint from its face and gave it only the barest imitation of humanity. The creature's face looked like that doll, but its eyes were large and bulging and completely black. God, fuck that. Dude, that's terrifying. Oh my gosh. I hate that it's even a kind of a human-esque face. That makes it worse. Yeah. I imagine it where the headboard would be, you know? Hmm. Like, linked up, looking at him. It's like these dark black eyes.
36:34Yeah. Most notably of all, from its forehead spreaded a pair of long, feathery antenna. They were as long as its arms, reaching towards the high ceiling. They waved back and forth gently like ferns. As I took it in, stunned by the wrongness of it all, the creature smiled at me. Its pale, fleshy lips parted, revealing a dripping black mouth with no teeth. And then it spoke. Hello, sweet lies. It said. The voice was so wrong. The innotation of words were clearly English, but the voice feminine. But it had a weird buzz to it, and a thick quality like someone speaking with their throat blocked. I was somehow able to find my own voice.
37:20What are you? How do you know my name? A strange buzzing and clicking noise came from the creature. The fat on its body rolled like waves and the toothless mouth gaped wider. It was laughing. I am you. You are the fruit of my loins. I birthed your brothers and your father and your father's father and his father before him. I know every inch of you Were first For it grew and pupated within me Now Time has come for you to give To give of yourself So I may have your son Dude I love this Dude Imagine having Oh it's his mother Imagine having to fuck your Imagine having to fuck your mom Grandma and great grandma all together dude it's like a giant it's like a giant insect it's like a giant brood mother with the antenna and the shape of it and everything like that it's like um feather it's like this alien that may be like way back in generations like convinced the first member of the family and then threatens them if they ever leave from it so it's like using them to grow people oh
38:41I understood almost immediately I felt a mix of horror and revulsion but it was far off, suppressed the sweet smell filled my nostrils made my head swim my skin was hot and itchy in the ill-fitting suit oh, making them wear a suit like it's a wedding like they're the groom do you think this has anything to do with the incestuous nature of Southern. It could be a commentary on that. I'm wondering Southern aristocracy, like even the way of like marriage and stuff like that. Yeah. That could be the idea that and it's also like there's kind of this theme that's floated around about like the rot of the family, like the house is decrepit.
39:27The forest is trying to reclaim it almost embodying the forest as if the forest is trying to do a justice by getting rid of the property and he says at the beginning it dates back to slavery right so it's like there's been such great sins committed by the lineage of this family it's like everything around the family is trying to do away with it the house is trying to rot away the forest is trying to overtake the property and now we have a physical embodiment of the rod in the family in this incestuous bug underneath the property that they that birthed this entire generation and the generations before it um yeah it's it's yeah i i think that's fair to say there's like a statement there being made about it yeah i should have been terrified i should have been disgusted i am in retrospect but i was under the spell of the creature scent of its pheromones too powerful for my brain to comprehend at that moment i knew that my body served a singular purpose and I knew what that purpose was.
40:25Then I was before the creature. Its many arms petted my hair, my body, my face, and the soft feathers tickling me. It cooed and spoke to me as I climbed on top of it, my body sinking into its soft and yielding flesh. I lay on its stomach, its bosom as my pillow, lying against its skin, though it was tacky like dough. I felt a comfort I had never known Or ever known since I was safe I was swaddled I was loved It wrapped its spindly arms around me It's buzzing words of encouragement Burrowing into my brain like worms
41:16It's like a mother And a pretty gross I will say I had a pretty stern stank face right there if I'm being honest this is cosmic punishment for me making goth mommy jokes for so long it's like oh you like that is that what you want okay here you go it's like okay I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm tapping out right now I regret it and then I began to move my hips and I was in heaven yeah oh boy Shakira them hips don't lie the not to encourage you but the bed bug thing is singing that the whole time I'm on the line I'm on the line I love Shakira dude I honestly probably get down with the bed monster if it was fucking singing Shakira i'll spare you the mechanical details of that coupling me recalling having sex with a moth monster who was also oh feathery antenna yeah moth duh yeah a moth monster who was also apparently my mother and grandmother is just as traumatizing as you reading about it but what i must say is that i have never felt pleasure like that since i have never once felt so loved so held and so safe.
42:46I know now that I wasn't in my right mind and recalling it makes me nauseous. There are still nights I jolt awake feeling a ghost of that heavenly pleasure. For a moment I grieve that I'll never feel it again. Damn. I don't know how long I was in that chamber with that thing. I vaguely remember dressing myself slowly, still drunk from the pheromones in the air. I remember the creature rubbing its belly. bruh gosh dude yeah he definitely old boy left some sourdough in the oven when he left for sure shut up god damn
43:31remember the creature rubbing its belly as I left followed by a cloud of moths little easy bake oven shut up you're awful call that monster Betty Crocker no go ahead
43:53this is so up your alley I love it this is your element I will say too the idea the description that I thought was fucking revolting and awesome was him saying that the skin felt like dough when you touch a dough and it's kind of sticky oh like it's soft it's like a cloud but when you try to pull your hand back out it sticks to you and you realize it's kind of sandy almost and the whole time it just has these words of encouragement the entire time how fucked is that oh gosh oh the motherly thing with it and like its shape and like you sink into the stomach of it all those things combined oh oh god oh okay you know this is also payback because last week i was listening back to the mother horse size episode and there's so many parts where it's me like nerding out about biblical stuff and you're just like okay and now this is payback because you get to be hype and i get to like i'm i feel like i'm gonna throw up i'm i i legitimately the entire time i've been sitting here i've been thinking about like what moth pheromone like what moth pussy pheromone smell like, dude.
45:01I was like, see what I mean? That's like, it's such a interesting descriptive where I was just the whole time I was just like Cinnabon for sure. I was like, I bet cinnamon rolls a little bit of icing on top of that. He prepared the icing. He was sitting there and he was talking about there you go. You being you. Come on, man. Come on. Do you think that actually kind of be like, it'd almost be like having sex with the Pillsbury Doughboy. actually that's literally what it'd be like giggling and shit you don't see the little motherfucker anymore do you there's no commercials of that little son of a bitch even though you walk fucking laughing you touching his belly you walk into the room that's the noise it makes yeah dude I can barely remember what he said like I don't know.
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47:32I was shoveling spaghetti into my mouth. He beamed at me proudly, and I felt good. Jamie was looking at me also. He didn't return my smile. His mouth was now permanently set in a grim line. As the encounter with the moth creature faded like a dream, Jamie continued to bother me. Had any experience the same heavenly pleasure that I'd had? Sure, there were lingering dregs of fear, even disgust at what I'd done. But if everyone in our family had done it, what was the harm? It was our legacy, after all. More time passed, and my confusion turned to anger. Jamie barely interacted with us anymore. Did he think he was better than us?
48:10Did he think that his feelings made him separate from the family somehow? I never got the chance to confront him. He came to me. It was about five months after my 18th birthday. Life had continued as normal, but one morning when we woke up, there was a strange feeling in the air. I made a comment about it to my brothers, but they just looked at me blankly. As we went about our chores, I felt strangely happy. We were walking out to one of the old guest houses when Jamie grabbed me roughly by the arm and pulled me away. He was nearly nose to nose with me, and his eyes were bright and wild. You listen good now, Eli.
48:45Why the hell do you think Paul never let us talk to the girls in town? I looked at him in confusion. That thing in the chapel, it doesn't want outside competition. It gave birth to all of us boys, but it can't control the gender of the baby it makes. Why do you think there's no girls in our family? What do you think happens when one is born? See, I assumed it was all automatically boys, but that's interesting. The beginnings of dread began to creep up from my stomach. yours is coming today jamie continued his mouth turned to a scowl let go of the vice grip on my arm for your sake i hope it ain't a girl his face fell oh i wasn't so lucky that explains why he's shaken out of the delirium that well that i'm wondering i'm wondering if you don't if you don't produce a boy if it fucking like mutilates you or something i wonder if it bites off your dick I think it just kills the girls when it gives birth to a girl it kills it yeah eats it or something yeah something brutal so that's what happened because remember Jamie a few several months afterwards got let out at night then he came back different that's what he saw so it's about to be what tonight Eli saw yeah he saw his daughter slash sister in law it is bald or something like that yeah slash step aunt Oh, oh, he gave is that how that would work step and yeah, no, just aunt.
50:15You know what I'm going to say it. It's just all plain wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The dynamics of that are rough.
50:28Okay, anyway, it's like that song on my own grandpa. Like I've never heard that. I don't know what kind of fucking backwards stuff you've been listening to. ever heard that song? It's by the guy that did The Squirrel Went Berserk. No. You don't know that one? Nope. The day the squirrel went berserk in the first cell register. It's a very nice other thing. That's like one of the gayest things in my life. Hold on. Hold on. In the most middle school way I can say it, that is one of the gayest things I've heard. Just like when the squirrel went berserk. Hold on. Hold on. It's like so fucking stupid.
51:04Ray Stevens. Oh God. it's Ray Stevens. He has, he has a song where he's explaining it. Like he married an older lady and his dad married a younger girl. And it turns out it was a mother and daughter. And then he's like, by cause and effect, because I married her or no, he has a kid with the older lady. So then he's married to no, no. His dad has a kid with the younger lady, which makes that like his grand which makes that his son but also his dad is his grandfather so he does the math and he's like I'm my own grandpa by like the cause and effect of it yeah anyway that is completely unimportant but yeah okay before I could say anything he was gone stalking off after the rest of our brothers stood staring after him as night came my dread grew gone was my pleasant mood from before Night found me sleepless, and I stared at the ceiling for hours.
52:02When the door creaked open, I knew it was Pa. He came to my bedside and motioned for me to join him. We made our way through the dark woods to the chapel. That bad feeling was everywhere, soaked into the very air. The creatures of the night were silent, and it was cold. The chapel stood, a white smear in the darkness. We went inside, the floorboards seemed to vibrate, and when Pa opened the trap door, I heard it. A terrible, buzzing wail, full of anger and pain, punctuated by inhuman squeaks and growls. I had heard the sounds of animals in pain before. It was like some sort of horrible symphony of all of those cries.
52:44I recoiled at the sound, standing rooted to the spot. I looked at Pa to see if my horror was reflected in his face. It was, to some extent, but over it lay a veneer of hardness. I realized that whatever was happening was no mystery to him. He'd probably experienced it a hundred times before. Took my arm and practically dragged me down the tunnel. The moths were flapping around wildly, diving at us and bouncing off the walls. A few of them flew into the candle flames, their feathery wings burning as fast as paper. Screaming got louder. Came to the chamber. The creature was in the same spot. But this time, its body was rippling like a wave.
53:26Some of its arms were braced on the walls and floor. The sweet smell was gone, replaced by that of blood and viscera. The creature's puffy doll face was twisted in a horrifying mask of pain and rage. Spittle flew from its black mouth as it wailed, the sound bouncing around the chamber. Its antenna swiveled wildly around its head. every feather twitching and shaking. At the side of us, its pallid face contorted further. Cleverly! Bellowed my father's name. What have you wrought? The fruit of your loins beget me, only curses! I was transfixed by the creature's rippling body, bile rising in the back of my throat.
54:14It was pushing something out. I realized. A dark puddle was forming on the floor beneath it My father moved towards the creature Like he meant to comfort it A pair of arms sideswiped him With surprising strength Sending him careening into the wall He tripped over the candles The creature let out a deep, throaty groan His body gave one more powerful ripple And there was a wet Oh my god Oh my god This is so gross And there was a wet noise as something dropped onto the floor of the cave. What lay before me was essentially a cocoon. It was roughly watermelon-sized, white in its glistening with fluid in the light.
54:59The creature's screams died into rattling breaths. As I watched, the cocoon began to tremble. A tiny red fist tore its way through the gauzy membrane. From the hole, I heard a cry, weak and plantive. It was a baby. Something came over me. I somehow knew that the baby was mine. I'm sure others can tell better stories of parental instincts kicking in, but that's what happened to me at that moment. While my father and the creature struggled to recover, I knelt down and began ripping the cocoon apart, trying to free the baby within. The cocoon had the texture of spider silk, thin and sticky. It dissolved at my touch.
55:42Soon the baby was free. Its skin was red and blotchy, and it looked like a lumpy potato. But its face and cry were wholly human. As I held it in my hands, I could feel the very gears of the world turning. My fate was changing. A wise creature rasped. I looked up at it. Its expression had relaxed. Its black eyes groaned wide and shining, reflecting the candlelight. Its antenna had calmed, resuming their slow and gentle waving. and reached its nearest pair of arms out to me. Bring it to me. Demanded. I lifted the baby in front of me and realized it was sudden dread. But something on it was missing.
56:23The baby was female. Creature's arms strained for the baby and I instinctually clutched it to my chest. Why? It is a lucifer. It is a curse. And the labor was long. I am hungry. Yep. that eats the babies. How messed up, dude. How... It licked its lips, leaving behind a film of gray spit from a black tongue. Jamie's words came back to me then, and I realized that he was right. Pod got to his feet, he clutched his side, clearly hurt, and his clothes were singed from candle flames. Just give it to her, son. It'll be over soon. I looked down at the baby. It was crying and squirming. It grabbed onto my shirt as tightly as it could, its little fist balling the fabric.
57:12For the first time in my life, I made my own decision. I turned away from my family. And I ran. Ah, shit. I held the baby tightly to my chest as I spread it into the tunnel. My father called after me, but his voice was drowned out by a buzzing wail that grew in volume until it seemed a physical thing, a wave pushing me out. Moths bounced off my face as I I ran past the candles. They blew out, filling the tunnel with darkness. I thought I heard my father scream, a sound of terror beneath the creature's anger. I don't like to think about it. I left our property towards town, the baby still bawling loudly.
57:51Finally, I had to stop running, my lungs burning and my legs cramping. I'd never been as afraid as I was limping through that dark forest. My daughter's cries, a dead giveaway to any who would follow. But nothing did. I walked through the town, knocking on doors until someone answered. My daughter's sobs had tapered from a steady stream to quiet whimpers, and I knew she needed care soon. The ice cream girl answered the door. Her hair must was sleep. She took in the side of me, recognizing me immediately, and her eyes widened at the baby in my arms. Please help us. I croaked. It was the first time I'd spoken to a woman.
58:32Really spoken. Shirley's family took care of me for a while. They taught me how to care for my daughter, how to change diapers and prepare formula and burper. I never left their house for fear of seeing my family. I was there for only a week or two. Then my daughter and I hit the road again. Went from town to town, surviving on the kindness of strangers. It was usually women who ended up helping us. I met all kinds of women. Women hardened by the world. Bitter ones, gentle ones, fiery ones. It taught me about the world, about all the things I'd been missing. We were far enough north that I felt safe.
59:09I began trying to settle down. My daughter was growing into a healthy, fat little toddler. Oh, no. I'm really afraid that the daughter is going to be one of those bed things. That's what I'm wondering, too. She was the axis on which my world turned. Everything I did, I did for her. Eventually, I named her Deborah. Debbie for short. I found a decent job. with on-site daycare for Debbie. Back then, it was a little easier to provide for a child than it is today, I won't deny. But I still worked myself to the bone. It was the easiest way to chase away the shadows that plagued my mind. I had lovers here and there, both men and women, but it hasn't lasted.
59:50Sex was difficult for me, considering what I had been through. I always felt disgusting afterwards, always unable to ignore the simple fact that I would never feel as good as that. And that knowledge made me feel like a monster. Eventually, I stopped trying to feign interest in sex, and I was happier for it, but it meant that I had never got into a real relationship. I didn't need a relationship. I had Debbie. As the years passed and she grew bright and smart and funny, the shadows of my past seemed farther and farther away. But I was a fool to let myself be comforted by time. I cannot escape the curse of my blood, no matter how far I run.
1:00:27Yesterday was Debbie's 14th birthday. day she locked herself in the bathroom in the morning crying for hours she finally let me in I could barely contain a scream because there bursting from my daughter's forehead was a pair of long feathery antenna
1:00:48that was awesome that was sick what a great little ending there so much for the oh that's rough dude such a goddamn such a short sweet little thing compared to last week too it still packed such a a great punch also too so i'm wondering too obviously the competition right of not wanting any female children do you think it was just solely so that moth creature could be the only one or do you think it was just like is or first let me ask is that something that moth do in generally do they eat their own children no i don't i don't think that happens i'm so curious do you think that do you think that do you think that the moth killed the dad and the family no i know i hold on hold on children no i'm crazy absolutely not because moth i don't think moth eat at all maybe some do but they're just the adult versions of the caterpillars to go the chrysalis and then they're just normally just in moth state long enough to eat.
1:01:53I mean, not eat, to breed, and then they die, I'm pretty sure. So this is one that's continuing to eat to where if it... Oh, I wonder actually if the moth died because it was unable to eat. It's young or whatever. You know what I mean? Adult moths generally do not eat much, and some species don't eat at all. Interesting. Interesting. I wonder if it was just keeping itself alive through generations of the men coming back to basically keep it alive through sex you know i mean yeah the idea of eating the daughters is so brutal eating their own children and now that creates that there there's some interesting things about like you know he is a moth or like he's a half moth creature throughout the story right and now it's like you go back to the mother and you know you give it another child that's the same way as you and it doesn't want competition so does that mean when his daughter gets old enough she's also going to put out pheromones and try to convince her father to keep this lineage going that I don't know that and also at what point in the bloodline did a man find a giant alien moth creature underground and just fuck it well it sounds like it was something that came up from the dirt like something ancient that started to like insert itself onto his family also I like the parallels earlier of what they said of like the family was born on slavery rape and pain basically you could look at that like literal slaves, but you could also, the family itself has been enslaved by this thing.
1:03:22And like, is, you know, unwillingly having sex with this thing and, uh, basically continue its bloodline that way. Unable to actually ever have like a real human existence too. But yeah, I was curious because they said it was, he was lumpy, like a sweet potato. So I'm curious if even when it was a baby, did it look normal or did it look like, you know, has it always been kind of a weird looking? Well, they said it was weird, but, or that the little girl was weird, but that she had a cry that was distinctly human. So I think it looked human up until it was 14 and started growing the antenna. Right.
1:03:58Yeah. Whatever way you look at this story, it's incredibly messed up from every angle. This is brutal. It's rough. It hurts. Such a interesting. Also, it got us there in such a fast way. Like, I don't know, bought into like weird Southern, culture thing of like dad who like does not allow his sons to talk to women only to find out that like basically the family survived by inbreeding with this thing that is like not it's father's mother's father mother's grandfather all that kind of stuff just so fucked up and weird also too good for Elias Elias is a dope character getting the fuck out of there also to Jamie having the the will yeah yeah yeah Eli yeah Elias it's Elias my bad yeah Elias is our main character and then the uh and then Jamie even having the gusts just like kind of warn him as well but obviously he had to suffer through that I'm so curious if he hadn't got that warning his daughter would have been eaten yeah but then it's like okay would it been better if she was if this is going to start again and the process continue you know I'm wondering if he because of that altercation when he's just like just think about it because at first he was like so on board with just being like, well, this is what our family does.
1:05:14It is what it is. If he doesn't get that, if he didn't get that kind of interaction with his brother, that kind of perspective, do you think he would have saved his child? Or do you think that his fatherly instincts would have kicked in? And he's just like, would it would have still been the same fate? You know what I mean? Would he still have taken and ran away? I don't know. Kind of an interesting thing. Also, he has so many other brothers that I'm wondering. I'm so curious to see from the author's perspective, if like the you know is the thing still alive is it still going on there's so many like fun little things to think about because in this case i'd like to think that this is actually the thing that killed the creature and now the dad and them are able to like i don't know live their lives normally however that is the dad is fucked because he's just i mean it's a lifetime he's mentally disturbed i mean he got well he got ripped apart is what sounds like i heard my father scream over the sound of the creature's anger i don't like to think about that sounds to me like okay so he so he probably did die then who knows it says earlier you you have brought me only transgressions or whatever she says and then she hears the father scream so i think that means that it killed you know oh it's kind of interesting because yeah that means that the which is fine which is fine that means the dad was the last one to actually have a son and then now i think what he means is you've only given me transgression i'm wondering if it's saying like you your kids only bear women women yeah that's what it sounds like to me also this is kind of reminiscent of tommy taffy and that it's a father who has a curse that willingly tries to let their children get through the curse and it's a sexual curse funny enough um or it has sexual elements to it and it's like we just have to maintain we just have to you know get through this stage um but at least with the original Tommy Taffy, there was evidence of that family trying to stop it, even if, you know, me and you made jokes about like, you should have tried harder.
1:07:06There was some attempt to, like, push it back. Whereas here, it seems like the father was just bought into it. But at the same time, maybe the father was still under the delusion. Maybe, you know, I'm sure there were some daughters he had mixed in, but he thought he needed to take care of his sons. Who knows? If it's all you've ever known, or that's how you've been raised and stuff, I mean, what else would you know? I mean, is it different? Yes. But at the same time, that's just like what life has been. Then, of course, you're going to continue to carry on the kind of, I guess, systematic fucking shit that happens in your own family.
1:07:41You know what I mean? My dad did this. Therefore, I do it. Whatever. And especially if you don't allow them to associate with anybody in the outside world, especially women, then what do you expect? I don't think I can fault the dad. I just think he's just a person that, I mean, years of delusion. You know, to this point now where you have a character like Elias who's sitting there and he sees his brother Jamie talking to the other girl. Like you can tell the younger guys are interacting more than they should be with people outside of, you know, the dad's reach to where that probably gave them a bit of perspective as well.
1:08:19So I don't know. Very interesting. Like you said, though, definitely my kind of story. I love just weird. I'm just man I just was thinking in my head about the big pillowy kind of monster thing also it just living in this like fucking underground tunnel with candles lining the wall like visually such a fun story also the author Solas did Solas did a incredible job with some of the descriptions just like intro like even just the go back I know I've already talked about it but I just love that descriptor of the doe skin just that feeling of like I already know what that feels like like I'm just I feel like I've felt it on my hand since we've been reading this or even Elias tearing open the cocoon and it's like a silk, like a spider web kind of like texture and stuff and the sounds that would make of tearing that open super fun.
1:09:08Also too just like, you know, this could easily be a story that you stretch out and stuff but it was just such a fun little like almost social media post you know, even at the end he's just like and it has just that little cherry on top with the antenna at the end really enjoyed it yeah that killed that was awesome we likey we likey and it's nice to have a nice little digestible fucking a nice swift punch to the gut after a long episode so this is just a nice little palate cleanser uh to kind of get us back into our normal routine of having episodes be like two and a half three hours long it's always nice whenever you find a story that's just short and punchy like this really like it so they have i'm looking at their stuff they have at least two other stories posted to no sleep one is called saint in a box that's still up but they had another one called drowning doesn't always kill you that was removed from no sleep uh knowing no sleep it may have been removed because they said like yeah because they gave a location the fictional locations like a dress or something like something fucking one of the one of the giant arbitrary rules they have on their fucking submission boards that's kind of if you're watching this if you're watching this so list just throw it on creep cast whatever throw Throw it on Creepcast, dude.
1:10:24Throw it on Creepcast. We'll leave it up. Also, that's a great name for a story. Not drowning. Drowning doesn't always kill you. Pretty fun, yeah. Well, guys, thank you so much for listening today. I know this one was a short one. Like I said, we were just trying to give ourselves a bit of time after that behemoth we recorded before. But this one turned out to be great. Not often do you get a nice fuck family moth pussy story. That very rarely happens in this lifetime, so we're very lucky. be sure to check us out on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and all those kind of places and as well if you're interested in checking out the Patreon feel free to check it out there and support us and get some more behind the scenes content or just extra content in general but like we said before it will not affect our weekly uploads that we have here for you for free so just let you know thank you so much for listening to Creepcast and god damn it we'll see you next week bye bye my level of discomfort in all of that was fitting compared to the level of comfort i had last week so i guess we're even bye
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