Why Your Child Isn't Just "Giving You a Hard Time" with Anjelah Johnson-Reyes

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0:35Jon McLaughlin:Hi, I'm Dave Barnes. And I'm John McLaughlin. And welcome to Dadville. Dadville is a podcast where we talk about life, love, and the pursuit of awesome dadding. It's funny thoughts and deep talks. So please, enjoy your time here in Dadville and enjoy this episode with... Angela.

0:58Let me start by saying, Angela, you had to drive a whopping, you know, what, two minutes. And let me tell you what I did. I went on the map and I saw, oh, two minutes? I got time. And then I did that thing where all of a sudden I gave myself too much time. And I was like, oh, no, hurry, go. And now I'm flustered, like grabbing all my things to get out of the house to get my two-minute drive. I know. I didn't realize we were so close to each other. Yeah. Well, you can feel it in the air. like when i get up in the morning why are we not friends this is dumb i feel like if we could do we should just do a huge like uh combo pod of this area i feel like this could be a bit that you got

1:34Jon McLaughlin:one of you guys could do they're like i feel like we should be friends but the bit is like we're never i thought we were friends oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i hate that we're not friends oh so that oh no no yeah no no i know me too yeah we should what do we need to do to be friends because apparently it's not what I've been doing. Doing much. First of all, can I just say, this is so fun having these gamer headphones on. Yes, I know the helicopter phones. The helicopter phones. It's a shame that listeners can't see it. I know, I wish they could see it because it really feels like I'm following a police chase in LA because you know it's very popular to do.

2:11And we're on the 405 and he's going down and he's exiting the off-ramp in the wrong location.

2:16Jon McLaughlin:He chose Sepulveda. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. time i've never thought about that part of it gosh that makes me think of oj and then that takes me in a really dark way um angela i'm gonna do your intro so okay i'll be here here we go today on dadville we've got the hilarious angelo johnson reyes with us you probably know her from that nail salon bit that basically broke the internet yep 100 million i love yep yep you got it right 100 million views before that was even a normal thing or from her time on mad tv where she gave us characters like Bon Cui Cui that somehow still get quoted in airports to this day.

2:50But what's wild is, before all that, she was a professional cheerleader. I loved this so much for the Oakland Raiders. Even performed at the Super Bowl, which feels like a very different career path than becoming one of the biggest stand-ups in the country. Since then, she's released a slew of comedy specials, toured all over the world, written a book, been in movies and TV shows, started a podcast, had some amazing guests on. I really check out one episode, especially. basically done everything except slow down. And now she's added something to the mix. She's a mom. Three years now. About to be three, yeah.

3:22She and her husband, musician Manuel Reyes, which we're going to talk about as Harry, by the way. We're going to talk about that door. Just welcomed their first daughter a few years ago now, which feels like a whole new chapter we're excited to get into. Angela, we are so glad you're on Dabville. My gosh. Do we want to talk about the hair first? I feel like let's... Well, we've alluded to it, so let's...

3:42Jon McLaughlin:Let's do it. I put this in my notes. can we just take a minute and talk about your husband's hair, which is a sentence I've never said before in my life. Let's not say it'll be the last time you say it. I want you to say it more. I want it to be kind of the main thing I say this interview. I want to just keep going back to that well. Yeah. That well. Yeah. Manuel. Well done. His hair is amazing. Oh, I see what you did. And then I said, well done. Oh, my God. I don't know if you feel like that. Sometimes the humor, it has to find a way out. It's got to. We can't stop it. I'm not going to put the light on the bushel.

4:18No, no, no. So what is it like to be married to a man that's got such resplendent hair? Okay, let's talk about his hair for a second. So his hair is my giveaway when we're out and about. People recognize him. Oh, and then they go. And then they go, oh, I think Angela's here. And then they look for me once they see him because his hair is the giveaway. So he recently just cut his hair. Not all the way off.

4:43Jon McLaughlin:I think I saw an updated picture. It looks awesome. It's still there. It's a little, it's just a tiny fro. It's like, what does he say? It's like his 2006 fro. Like it's back to being tiny because he needed shape. So he got it cut to shape and it's growing out. So I think probably in like a month, it's going to be right where he wants it. But here's a funny story about that hair. So he was at the dealership, like going and taking his car in to get like a little service or whatever. And he's like, then this young girl walks in, you know, she's pretty, she's young and she's like eyeing me and I'm like, still got it.

5:19You know? And then she walks up to him and he's like, I'm going to have to give her a sorry. Break some more dreams, you know? And she says, I do hair. I'm a curl specialist. I would love to give you a trim. No. and so he's like he's gone from the top of the mountain yeah to the valley yeah she's like i see you struggling yeah she cut him down real quick she's like okay it's it's hard to manage that much yeah okay let me help you also is angela here yeah yeah exactly exactly so he went to her and got his haircut and she she oh she he went yeah so he she gave him a nice uh shape to it made it more like circular taught him stuff about his curls uh she's mixed she's like black asian something else like so her hair she has those like nice beautiful curls so she was trying to like teach him all that and um yeah so that's where the story of his hair getting cut i feel like as a white male one thing that i never understand is like what it's like to maintain hair because any of my friends like my black friends they'll talk about their hair and it's like you know you really have to know what you're doing yeah and i just feel like as a white guy you're just like i don't know you just like get it cut we're just praying that we can keep it that's well there you go that's our plight you just throw a little like gel in it what hair product do you use gel i use uh

6:45Jon McLaughlin:what is it called kevin murphy oh like a paste it's the baby blue oh i know that it's like a A real light. A big K on it. A light cream or a paste. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I use grit to jail. You so, look at you. Get out of here. That's for you. And that's because I love you. I hate you. And we're so close as friends as John said. I can't stand you. Yeah, I don't. Hats are my gel. I just don't. I wear a hat. This is another thing that's weird as like a guy in my 40s. I just don't. John and my friends who really maintain their hair, but I'm just like too lazy. I'm just like, let's put a hat on and forget about it.

7:16But you used to do the whole. Well, no, I did like the. I do the Bama bangs. Oh, the Bama bang. Like the Bieber thing. The Bama bang. In fact, when Bieber started to pop, people came to me and were like, dude, he's like rocking the Dave Barnes fire. Are you okay with this? He's in his Dave Barnes space. We're in litigation, but it hasn't really gotten to him yet. Or his team. His team doesn't know that we're going to be in litigation. But yeah, I can't. I don't know. That's not a thing. You don't do any product in your hair at all? Well, okay. this is just for because this is about you but let me just no yeah this is important information people want to know people want to know for the past 25 years I was under the understanding that you use product I've never done product but what I do now which is a new thing because like this is just things about getting older are so weird but like my hair doesn't work like it used to just on a primal level like get out of the shower boop boop boop towel it off and it's like nah man we're gonna like we got some ideas we got some ideas yeah it's a high day and lord knows we put the wrong shampoo in anyway now Annie was my wife's first one would be like just put hairspray on it and I was like what do you mean she's like well like get the thing you want like get it to like oh it looks pretty good and then just and I was like I didn't even literally I mean 47 year old man I never even thought about doing that well yeah because we lose like a lot of nutrients in our hair as we get older it gets brittle it doesn't like stay the same and mine is like doing little swoopy and like little cow lick things oh interesting this is getting less interesting the more I talk alright so You have just gotten done with the tour.

8:49Yeah. And it was a monster tour. It was. Was it 100 dates? Is that right? It was about that. It was a little over a year. It was a little over a year. That is so many shows. Because for people who don't know, and correct me if I'm wrong, comedians do so many shows

9:05Jon McLaughlin:because oftentimes you're doing two a night. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You'll go and do a weekend, but you'll do like six shows in a weekend. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. so and honestly this is not even including my writing dates so for instance this is how i do i don't know how other comedians do it this is just how i do it when i'm starting from scratch which is about to be very soon because i just filmed my special once it comes out and i'm starting from scratch yeah so what i do is i plan probably a year and a half worth of dates where I'm going to comedy clubs in like BC markets for me. I'm saving my A markets for the big theater tour.

9:43So I'm going into BC markets. Every now and then I'll throw in an A market that I know I can pull again at the end of my tour. You know what I mean? So I'm going to my BC markets and I'm doing comedy club shows. And I used to do like six to eight shows in a weekend. Holy cow. To write my material. To get it tight. Right now that I have my daughter, I don't want to be gone for that long and I don't want to be exhausted when I get home. So now I'm down to just like four shows a weekend. Just four. Just four shows a weekend. That's minimal. You know what I mean? So I go to these four shows and I'm I'm writing.

10:18And so it's in a comedy club. It's more intimate. I don't do a lot of crowd work, but when I'm writing, I do more crowd work because I'm trying to figure out. Yeah. So I'm like engaging with the audience. I'm asking a question, seeing where that goes. and I'm like, bing, that was a golden nugget. I'm going to store that for my next show and then keep going, whatever. So then I start building the hour and it, for me, takes me about a year and a half to build my hour by doing all these little shows. So I did about a year and a half of these shows and I don't even know how many shows that was. So I did about a year and a half of those shows.

10:53Then I do my big theater tour. That's about 100 cities. So, and that lasts about a year.

11:01Jon McLaughlin:And at that point, by the time you're starting the theater tour, you have the hour kind of locked in. 100%. It's not locked in, but I have the hour and I'm still tweaking it and adjusting it. So by show one of the hour to buy my taping, it's probably changed maybe 20%. Oh, okay. So it's still changed, but not in. Right, right, right. So when you're doing that first tour where you're doing BEC markets and comedy clubs, do you have a general rule of like, okay, you're trying out different bits. How many swings and misses on, let's say, this particular bit do you give? Are you like, if I bomb night one, I'm going to try it again on night two.

11:44Jon McLaughlin:If I bomb by night four, it's done or what? So it really depends if it's something that I think is hilarious, then I'm like, okay, I just need to figure out the mathematical equation. Tweak a word or whatever. Exactly. So I'm like, I'm going to try it on the next show. I'm going to switch. I'm going to say this first and then that. And then that doesn't work. I'm like, hmm. Okay, maybe I need to take a beat before I say this. Let that helium in the balloon build and then pop it. Let me try it that way. That didn't work either. I'll maybe give it I don't know a few different ways of trying it differently and if it's still not working I'll either cut it and be like it's not working or I'm like I'm gonna put this on the back burner I'm gonna come back to it because I'm like too close to it or something so I'll just put it on the back burner I'll wait a little bit maybe I'll do some crowd work with it see if I can figure something out and then sometimes it just gets dropped and I stop saying it and I record every show so like like on your phone if I show you my phone my audio recordings i go back years wow all my building so i can find when i started a joke what it used to sound like incredible when i used to say it in the beginning this is how i used to say this joke by the time i recorded it it sounds so different and it's just sharp it's just quick it's to the point it's cut the fat it's just nice and lean it's boom boom boom punch and before it's like a lot of words because i'm trying to figure it out i'm trying to build it so so this is the thing i think you and i've even talked about this i can't think of anything well i think something about songwriting that's so weird is that you do it in this this safe space you know you kind of like writing a book you know i mean you know like you kind of go off and you do it yeah but i i literally there's nothing that scares me more than the thought of working out something funny in front of people that's literally that just feels so anti everything in my brain yeah but every comic i know that's what you do is you just go and you're okay with that like yeah you've got the armor around yourself to be like i just went funny yeah and you're okay with that well am i okay with it i don't know um it still doesn't feel great but you know it's a part of the process yeah and you learn different ways to handle that when you're on stage when you take a swing and it's a miss the way you recover like different tricks and tools to keep the audience on your side and it's usually just owning the fact that you swung and you missed and making fun of yourself for the swing and the miss and then they're like oh okay we're not going to lose faith in her you know what I mean we're still on her team you said that really well I've never thought about that you really are I mean when you get to the theaters everybody's on your side they wouldn't be there if they weren't but in those clubs like you said I've never thought about it.

14:34You're trying to keep them like pro you. Uh-huh. Yeah. You don't want to give them a chance of turn. If you give them dud after dud, then your next joke that's a winner, it's not going to get that big of a hit because you've instilled doubt in them. They're not objective anymore. Exactly. Now they're like, isn't that funny? I don't know. You're like, no, this one was a killer. This one I used on my last special. They just lost faith because I gave them too many duds in a row. What a fascinating thought. And again, this is just me. I know every comic is different. Like I know comics who as soon as their special comes out, they start from scratch, zero out the gate and they're just figuring it out.

15:09I don't do that. I do like the greatest hits show. Yeah. So I'm doing some jokes from this hour, this hour and this hour, peppering in new stuff. So I'm going to do an old joke that I was going to hit. Then I do this new joke that I'm kind of working out. Not sure if it's going to hit. And then maybe it hit. Maybe it didn't. but it's all right because I got a guaranteed hitter coming up and I like weave them in so that they don't lose trust in me and I'm able to throw in some new stuff and they have no idea that it's new they don't know that I just made it up in the green room and I'm trying it out and then when it does hit it feels so good you're like oh I got one like that's gonna be a new like staple like these tent poles yeah yeah in your hour I'm like okay that's one of my tent poles that one worked and then you've got and because you're recording it you can remember exactly what you did oh yeah and i go back and i listen to it and then i'm like okay i'm gonna try it like this and then oh it didn't work the same this show let me go back did i say it differently what did i say differently so fascinating do you think the um video component would be helpful to like seeing how you do it possibly um i mean obviously the cadence is the biggest deal but yeah it's really just the cadence and the audio and i can listen to that while i'm driving and like i'm trying to say then i'll just pull up the audio and i'll listen to it that's so fascinating that would be don't you think that would be so helpful with our shows even with our banter like to be

16:29Jon McLaughlin:like yeah well we were just talking about this earlier today that i i find it so difficult for me to listen back to like a board tape after a show and i have some friends artist friends who they want the board tape every night they will listen i can't do that and i'm like i know it would serve me well to do this i know that it would help for me to be like i've never noticed have this thing that I'm trying to do on the piano on that bridge. It's like I need to let that go or whatever. I would see it with fresh eyes. I just don't want to see it. I don't listen to it all the time. I listen to it when I need to.

17:08You've got them if you need them. I'm trying to figure it out. I just used it for recently. This is silly, but this is how I used it. I produced and directed my own hour special. This is my first time directing my show. Thank you. This is one that hadn't come out yet. Yeah, so it's coming out soon. When does this podcast drop? A couple years. What are we doing? 27 right now, 28. I can't stand you. It'll come out in May? Yeah. Okay, good. Then I can talk about it. So my seventh one-hour special is called Ugly Baby. And the world premiere is Mother's Day, May 10th. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So I directed it, produced it.

17:47That's incredible. This is my first time directing. Where'd y 'all shoot it? In LA at the El Rey Theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so what I did is at the end of my special, after it goes to the credits, I did a little Marvel like little treat at the end. Oh, nice. And I added in some actual footage and video of the things that I talked about in my hour.

18:08Jon McLaughlin:Oh, my gosh. That's a great idea. Yeah. So I do a joke about my daughter eating and she makes a mess. So there's a couple of videos of her eating with food all over her face, you know, like just like family type stuff. But one of the jokes that I'm doing is about my mother-in-law and she's in her late 70s and she's on Facebook. She calls it Fable. She loves her Fable. And she doesn't have Facebook etiquette. And so I talk about something that she did and where I was like, oh my God, you can't be doing that on Facebook. Like I was trying to like teach her like how to properly have, you know, social media etiquette.

18:41Anyway, within that, I found out that she had been leaving messages for Patrick Mahomes.

18:47Jon McLaughlin:oh hold on hold on she's only human you know who among us yeah yeah yeah yeah and um so i tell the whole story in my act and i take everybody on the journey well when this actually happened i recorded on my instagram story so this is a few years ago and i was like filming her and i'm like carmen who are you messaging and she's like patrick my home and i'm like what are you saying you know like you can do it you know like stuff like this and she's like telling me all the things i can't handle your accent there's something so deep in me that can't so i'm just like going back and forth with her and this is like the first time that i'm hearing this information and i'm like what and she goes yeah he replied to me i'm like he did what did he say and so it's our whole conversation it's a real conversation now i just finished telling the audience that i did that and i'm sure there's gonna be some people that are like ah sure and then i show you the video yeah of me actually talking to her and find it i show the receipts basically i record this on my stories i'm like when did i record this i don't remember because this is years now i told you it takes me a year and a half to write and then a year of touring and then so this is like three years ago maybe and i'm like i want this footage i know i have it how am i gonna find it i went back to my audio recording and i scrolled back to when i first started doing that joke of her and i'm like okay so i found it and i started doing the joke like in september and i'm like so that doesn't mean it happened in september it probably happened a couple months before that and it took me that long to say i'm going to talk about this on stage so i slowly started going back like four shows nope not there four shows nope and then i found when i wasn't doing the joke and when i was doing the joke and i was like okay then i went back to my i sleuth my own self i sleuthed myself and then i went back to my instagram stories and i I was like, okay, it's within these three months that I did it.

20:41And I went through those stories of like back in 2023. And I found that's incredible. I didn't know you could go back in the archives. Yep. That is so funny. Yeah. So that's also how I use my audio. Well done. Oh my goodness. So I guess you can't just tickle anything at the zoo. That's what I learned. Well, I mean, after hours. Well, that's true. That's a great point. John, the Dadville podcast is so much more than just turning on the mics. and having a conversation.

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23:04um it's mainly that okay that he just trusts but there are times where i'll run it by and he's usually always okay with it i can't think of a time when he wasn't okay he actually gave me a note on a bit that i was doing about him that was so good and i wish he had given me the note sooner but he gave me like the weekend before my taping oh my gosh and i'm like i don't want to say something different right before my taping so what i did was i went up at like laugh factory the improv and comedy store just to like practice saying it in that week before my taping because it was gonna be my first time saying it was at my taping but it was so worth it the note that he gave me and it was basically i was just talking about how he's he's an amazing partner he's an amazing husband like i'm bigging him up giving him his props right after i just tore him down a bunch of good ones you know what i mean but in this moment i'm like giving him his props and saying like but he's amazing because of abcdfg and in that he was like everything that you mentioned is a very feminine quality that i do like how he cleans the house how he's in touch with his feelings and I think you should touch on like I also do our finances and our taxes like I also make sure you have gas in your car and like like dude stuff some of the dude stuff and I was like I didn't even think about that but so the things I'm saying of course all the women are like see you know right but the dudes are just like who's this guy you know I mean so he gave me that note and I added it in and it worked so much better and I was like I wish I had been doing this my whole tour like not just right before the tape yeah so um there's times like that we'll hear here he will hear what I'm saying and then have some like thoughts to it and sometimes I'll be like no yeah that's not it and then other times it's like oh that actually does that's a great call I should do that yeah that's a great call do you have people on the road that um that like um will give you comments like that that are like in your camp you know i mean like you ever have like a road manager that pops in it's like hey you know what people love tonight i just want to make sure you do is this thing or i noticed you changed that that's funny yeah my opener for sure oh cool my road manager she'll she knows my set to the point where if there's too much cheering she's like hold on what are they what is she saying differently oh you know what I mean like she knows the moment to where she's like oh she said something differently or if it's quiet for a second she's like she's talking to somebody somebody's you know heckling or something and so um yeah they they know my hour my opener my tour manager they they know what to where and so they can get like if they come back after show and like hey I noticed something you're like oh tell me and it's usually if I'm working on something new and they know it then after I come back and I'll be like how do you think it went and they're like it worked but But, you know, it's whatever.

26:13Jon McLaughlin:So here's my question for comedians. As a songwriter, I know that I can do – this is kind of a tired question for artists and songwriters. They're like, what inspires you? Because we think of like – I know that there are things that I can do that will kind of kick it up. It'll get me going. Like if I go to a really good show at the Ryman or something like that, I know after that show, I will want to go sit at a piano. I'll have some idea. Or if I go on a run or something, to be honest, I want to just listen to the driest podcast that there is. But if I listen to new music that I don't know, at some point I will have an idea.

27:00Jon McLaughlin:Is there something that you guys do as comedians that will kick that up for you? so for me and again i can only speak for myself because i don't know everybody does things differently like my opener he's like i don't like to watch other people's specials wow because i don't want to be influenced by their special right i personally i love watching other stand-up comedians and specials and just hearing their stories and what they're talking about and if anything like for instance um i was just at the comedy store and this lineup was insane it was uh it started with jay leno good night then it went to um uh why am i forgetting his name right now okay anyways jay leno uh sebastian mascalco nikki glazier um myself thank you um Um, it was, I, so many, Dane Cook, uh, everybody was on this.

28:02Like it was just, that's one night, one night, just a Wednesday night. And we're all going to do like 15 minutes, 15 minutes ago. Yeah. David Spade. That's what I was thinking. So it was a Jay Leno, David Spade, myself, working on new stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then it was Sebastian. And then it was just killer, killer, killer. Anyway. So after I'm leaving, I'm, I do my set and I'm leaving, but I stopped to watch Sebastian and he is just so good i love his storytelling i love it and he's telling the story of going to his son's soccer game and just being the type of parent like his wife is like talking to everybody and he's like i'm not trying to talk to nobody like you can not try my new friends whatever and he talks about his body language is facing this way clearly i'm giving the sign i'm not trying to engage blah blah blah blah and he paints this whole picture and now in that i'm not thinking oh i should talk about my kid's soccer game my kid doesn't even have a soccer game right but it did inspire me to think about the communal things that we do in my own pov my own point of view of that and i'm like he took a very uh common thing your kid's soccer game how many americans are going to their kid's soccer game everybody's going to their kid's soccer game yeah so he's taking this but putting his own this is my perspective on it and how the parents act how the kids are on the field woo woo woo and so in that I leave inspired going okay what in my life yeah that I have a very specific point of view but that's something that a lot of Americans are doing wow right or just humans across the world and that's usually how I write Anyways, when I'm talking about my marriage and stuff like that, I'm talking about the way my husband brushes his teeth versus the way I brush my teeth.

29:45And it's like, we all brush our teeth. So there's going to be my specific point of view on this very mundane thing that everybody participates in. So just even watching that was just a reminder of like, look at this amazing gold material. He has everybody in the palm of his hands and he's really just talking about going to his son's soccer game. You know what I mean? So I'm like, what in my life am I doing that a lot of people do that I can just give my perspective on it? And so I leave inspired like that. So those types of things inspire me, but also just living life. And I take notes in my phone and I'll write down when something happens.

30:26And like, for instance, we were driving the other day and Manny's driving. He has his GPS maps. He missed a turn, but he's like, babe, you're not watching. And I'm like, am I driving? What in the world? You know what I mean? Yeah. And then so I just write a simple note in my phone that's like if my husband's driving, I am also driving apparently. Like if he's using GPS, I also got to be on GPS. Like don't be scrolling. Don't. You know what I mean? Like I'm co-driver apparently. So that's all I'm writing in that. And later on, I'll go back to my notes and I'll think about like, is this something that I can expand and make like a nice three minute story or something?

31:06Is this just a tag that I'm going to add to? Or maybe I don't ever address it. Maybe it was just funny for me in that moment. And I started writing it down immediately. And my brother was in the car that day. And maybe like a few days later, something happened. And he goes, oh, like when Manny was mad at you for not paying attention at the GPS the other day. And I was like, you saw that too? See, I wrote it down. I am going to talk about it because my brother, he noticed it too. And I'm like, that's hilarious. I need to talk about this. so sometimes it's really just me taking notes when things happen in life and going hmm i'm gonna talk about this yeah yeah yeah i love it for all the years you've done it you're still this is when i think people really love their craft because john and i like this with writing songs but like you're still sitting there watching you know sebastian do his thing going oh that's something i could tweak like that's so great you know to have done it for as long as my own perspective my own you know whatever never i would never be like oh i'm gonna do a soccer game too let me do you know what i mean like i'm not i'm not trying to right right what he's doing yeah right right just the inspiration of like oh yeah just everyday life with your specific point of view that is yours only do you enjoy the writing yes and you know what i mean like because dave i think dave