7 Design Tips We Swear By: Interior Design Q&A

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0:46It's kind of just rapid fire and off the cuff and they're fun and easy. And we get to connect with knowing what you want to know, which is great. Which is the reason we started the podcast in the first place. Exactly. Yes. Should we just jump in? Yeah, let's do it. First question is from Ashley. She asks, your favorite quote that you live by? Ashley, we're getting deep. We're getting deep. Okay. Do you want to go first? Well, I was going to say, I have a couple, but one of my favorites of the design center, one of our team members is really darling and optimistic. And she's like the spirit leader.

1:22If there was a head cheerleader of the design center, she would be it. It'd be Nick. Yeah. Yeah. Nick. So Nick often, if there's ever a situation we're trying to work through, she always says, we're lucky and everything goes our way. And it's amazing how when you say that out loud, especially in a sticky situation, it reverses you out of the sticky and you start believing that everything's going to be okay. Why that I usually live by, I continue to think about, and I tell this to my kids all the time when they start to whine, only you can make you happy. Not your brother, not me, not your dad or anybody.

1:54Only you can make you happy. So again, kind of a reversal of your mindset, right? You have to kind of shift and be like, okay, if I want to be happy, I got to make me happy. So what's going to make me happy? Yeah. You know, and then you switch your behavior. So it's amazing. Only you can make you happy. Mine, I don't know where I got it from. It's been a long time, but I've been implementing it for over 10 years and I try to do my best, but it's make choices based in love, not fear. That was a problem I noticed in myself that I would be like, I'm going to do it because I'm afraid if I don't, whether it's like taking a new job or whatever this situation is, I always tried to like go with what I love and not with what I'm afraid of.

2:32Yeah. And so far so good. You know what I mean? I have a wife and two beautiful kids and that was choice based in love. So yeah. And I'm here with you guys, you know, come on. Good life. Yeah. Thanks, Ashley. That was really fun. Great way to start the podcast. The next question comes from Eastside Sweetery. They asked, when color drenching a room, do we paint the trim the same sheen or different? I'm going to go ahead and say different. Glossier. Unless the whole room is already lacquered, then it's also going to be the same sheen. Yeah. But most people, most of the time, I guess they're color drenching.

3:11So this isn't a wallpapered room. Yeah. Wouldn't you say most of the time the sheen on the wall is going to be, the trim is going to be more sheeny. Most often people are doing like their walls and like a satin and then we're going to go high gloss on that trim and like a highlighter. Like you want to see that pop off. I don't like it when everything's flat. It's a no go. Don't do everything flat. And when you do have like the detail of trim and finish work, you want to highlight that. That costs you more money. I want to exaggerate the coves. Really feel the reflection hit when either natural light or actual like our fixtures are shining on it.

3:43So you want to feel the sheen difference. Even if it's the same color still. Yeah. Which I think that's the way that everything's headed right now is everything is pretty glossy. And so if you're already high gloss, I'm just thinking about myself with the office, my home office I just did. And also when I did high gloss on my grass cloth, I did high gloss on my trim. However, they look different because the grass cloth absorbed it. It still looks a little bit more, it's weird to say more matte than the trim, but there is an offset and the trim is glossier than the way the grass cloth absorbed it.

4:16I think that's going to be the same with drywall compared to whatever your trim is too. So you might maybe even need to go a little bit more sheen than you're thinking. Because drywall would absorb differently than it would. Yeah. Yeah. But I would almost today say, we used to say semi-gloss on trim and satin on walls. We're going gloss today on trim. Gloss and high gloss? Yeah, or high gloss. Or just all high gloss. It depends on the client, guys. It really, really does. If you're like relatively neutral and then in those like crazy spaces where you really want to feel something, we're going high gloss.

4:47I'll say that. Here's a fun question. What did you do in your bedroom? High gloss on the walls and on the trim. Yeah. We're just in a glossier phase. We're in a glossier phase. Yeah. Just high gloss paint because it looks very reflective. It did a great, yeah. Tom did such a great job. He's a master. Yeah. He really did. We recently had a remodel that we've done before. We worked on it like over 10 years ago in this historic avenues in Salt Lake here. and we I'm so excited to show you guys the picture because we did do lacquer we chose to do lacquer she was down for it she wanted to feel something so we're like okay your living room let's go let's do this green and she loves this one painting and I'm like let's pull the best parts out of this painting and I want to see more of that green and so let's just saturate the place in high lacquer and that my friend is reflective but what we did next to it because she had an adjacent room which is something you guys should consider if you have a case to opening what is happening in the room next to it in that adjacent room it was the dining room with navy walls previously had a white ceiling and white trim classical beautiful whatever and she's just like i want to fly my freak flag what should we do and i'm like you should do a totally golden rock saffron high gloss ceiling with the navy and i remember doing all the doodles what if we did all your trim in this kind of icy blue so it talked to the navy you know being like a friend of make sense and justify the fact that we're color blocking on the ceiling we're already we're going to be outlining with a blue highlighter on all your trim work and then what if we see that that trim also as the trim at least the threshold into the green living room so when you're in the green living room you see the icy blue threshold going into the navy dining room with the saffron ceiling and the icy blue trim and you guys that's rad it is such a party like bless this client's heart it is so strong it is so strong lacquering you can't live in that house oh yeah because and so they've been living in like they have a camper outside while the space is good for them and they've been going on more trips so good go you um but it is it's so impactful we don't even have the furniture in there yet and i could just lie down and just like look up but you see everything it is so reflective yeah and just this idea that we are going glossier i love i love both rooms i love the all high lacquer and I really love like because we didn't high lacquer the navy we kept the navy walls and that's like a satin but then what is high gloss and lacquered is the that light blue trim so you really feel it and of course the ceiling is lacquered and so those two rooms speak so tremendously to each other they're so excited they entertain these are spaces that they actually use and they can be more stoked let your freak flag flat y 'all lacquer it you know how many layers they needed to do of lacquer?

7:27It's fascinating because with lacquer, you're patching, you're sanding, you're priming, you're patching, you're sanding. They had all of these little, millions of little tape marks because if there's any spots that aren't completely, it's like a grand piano finish. Yeah, yeah. And she actually shared the pricing with us. I think we asked her by chance, what have you paid? It's precisely 10X what I paid for my one room, my office, to be painted in high gloss. Crazy. So if you're ever curious the difference between lacquer and high gloss paint, it's about 10x. Yeah, because you have to spray it.

8:02I'm sure all the walls had to just be like perfect. Yeah. This is a historic house like built in the 1800s. It's been months in the making. But it is extraordinary. It's like the room is a candy shell. It is so bananas. I can't wait for you guys to see these images. But back to Eastside Sweatery's question is like, when you're colored drenched in your room, do you paint the trim the same or different as the sheen? And we obviously said color drenching. I'm picturing this like drenched currently in a glossy paint because that's usually what we're doing right now is color drenching. He said you might also want to consider what's happening in that adjacent room, like Suze just said, because when you make a hero out of a room color drenched, there is a gravitational pull to that room.

8:41And you might want to consider something outside of that room, something across from that room, hitting it with some. Maybe you're just painting your existing sheen high gloss to make it connect. I'm not sure what your situation is at your house, but I do think what Suze is teaching right now is really valuable to everybody because we're all in a mood and we're ready to do something. It is so spectacular that you want to keep playing that game in the house. Yeah. And all your other decisions that you make, like now in the entry, I'm like looking there, we're getting a new chandelier that just has some funk to it.

9:12You need to do something. Even if it's not high gloss, you need to do something that matches the amount of intensity that you're seeing in the next room. Yeah. Or it feels so distant, not related at all. So you do have to continue in that string of just being bold. Excellence. Excellence. Being bold, you know, whatever your style is, just make sure that you feel that in each space so it all feels like you. Great advice. Okay. So excited for you, sweet treat. Yeah. The next question is from Jess B. Is this you? No? You wrote in. Yes, I wrote in. She asks, are you doing backsplashes in kitchens or is it just pulling the countertop up?

9:47That's a great question. I love this question. Okay. So backsplashes are back, y 'all. It's going to take a minute, but we're already seeing this in all the magazines. It's really fun. We're doing tile in spaces again. I think one of the interesting things to consider is like what else is happening on that range hood wall? That's kind of your money shot, your hero shot, right? And so in my kitchen, I have two long windows that come down and cut into where my backsplash would be. They almost hit the countertops. so there is no backsplash there and next to that there's two tall towers of cabinetry and I've run floating shelves across my windows so really the only bit of backsplash you're getting is under my range hood and so I for me I kept my countertop material going so it could run under my windows and then on up because there's so much happening a little patch of tile in the middle of all that would not be great it would just really cut everything up and I needed some cohesion yeah with all those other heroes going on.

10:47Yeah. So also I think the backsplash as the countertop is also a really contemporary sleek move, even if you have like a really fun, wild countertop. So if you're a little bit more chic and contemporary transitional, this is the move. Now, in the case of some of our other projects, such as Tiger Oak, Manchester, Highland Manor, Sugar House. Let's talk. Let's talk tile. Yeah, Tiger Oak is a great example because we did do the whole thing. tile including the hood and we did a lot of interesting details I think what you're saying as far as like the backsplash and what is interesting in that wall you have to pay attention to it if you are going to take the slab up if you say my husband loves the slab you know he just wants to take it all the way up it's simple he knows what it is his his mind can understand it and predict what that's going to look like you have to do until you don't have windows so you just have cabinetry I think that you have to do something even more so bold to pair with that if you're just going to do the back or the backsplash as a slab beautiful you can have a beautiful slab but I think you have to turn the metal to be more interesting on your hood where you have to like make an interesting profile that's graduating somewhere actually care to like add this in since I made this more edited move so if you're traditional I think you just need to hear it with something else or have a cool profile or do something like that to make that slab more interesting we started using this probably like 10-15 years ago it started to get on the market and so so fascinating that this is the question that came in and we get this a lot we even do tile backsplashes anymore because everything I see is slab we are seeing the tables turn and people want tile we're loving tile and like it just feels interesting you can do cool rhythms and I think we're more is more seeing those lines and like feeling different textures paired with each other is more exciting it shows that you designed it and you really thought about it but Even on Manchester, we did the slab backsplash.

12:38But what we did is we threshold everything in the marble. And we had floating shelves and we had an interesting hood. And you have to like pull other moves to make just that move interesting again. You know? Yeah. No, it's such a big move. I don't want to discredit it. But I do think it looks more design, more thoughtful, more you if you can add those details in that feel like you. Yeah. And also this is a design podcast. So we're going to, we're just going to talk about the details of all of this and why, what you have to do to make it work. If you are just going to use the countertop material as the backsplash, which by the way, is a power move because slab is super expensive.

13:14You're buying twice as much countertop material. So just taking it to the limit, like Suze is saying, is a way to make it really feel current and really feel thoughtful and designed. When you do a slab view, is it thinner CM that you're putting on thinner CM version of the countertop that you're putting on the wall? Do you know that? Not always. Usually it's just like if the quartzite is 3cm, then the quartzite's 3cm and they just have to reinforce the walls to like handle the weight and, you know, make sure it's not going to fall over. But yeah, that's a great question. But yeah, usually from the same bundle, they're not going to sliver it.

13:46Or if they had slabs that were like, this comes in 2cm or 3cm doing the countertop. Would that be cool with you guys to do a thinner? As long as it doesn't change. I would just want to make sure it's from the exact same batch and they just happen to have two thicknesses because this stone could be up here it's already going to look different because of like the plane that it's sitting on yeah and so every batch there's always something like and it's usually part of the field color there's a shift on it and today's slabs that we're specifying are more heroic than the carrera marble if you would because you could just be like yeah let's get a thinner slab of carrera and they would probably stock both because it used to be so popular but now we're going for these more hero wilder slabs and so you do just kind of want all of those from the same block of marble so they're related loaf of bread yeah yeah if you will yeah exactly i would encourage you if you are you still love the slab you know backsplash and everything what else can you do that's interesting a lot of times we're even like taking that up to either the bottom of you know the upper cabinets or to where the hood sits or just to a certain amount and then we'll even tile above that keep it clean you're still taking the backsplash up some out of shelf tile above that if you don't want to see like grout lines coming all the way down.

14:57So there's so many interesting applications that you can combine the two. You're like, I'm not a tile person. Even taking that up, doing a cool little shelf with a cool little edge, and then you're plastering above or just something. A good example of this, because I think we use tile, is the beaver cabin. They also had windows on both sides of the range. We cased that. We brought up the slab. We cased the windows out in that slab and then tiled all the way above there. and that tile spoke also to the TNG happening on the ceiling treatment. So just texture on texture on texture. Like you do, you feel totally enveloped.

15:31And I don't think it doesn't feel overwhelming. Also, this is a ski cabin. It's a ski cabin. So it should feel cozy and artisan and touched by hands. Yeah, Hallmark movie. I just got snowed in. I don't want to live there forever. TNG, by the way, is tongue and groove for people. So it has like a seam in it. So I feel that texture, but it's the warmth that spoke back to the warm tile. but then we have this dark backsplashing countertop that it's so cool i cannot wait to shoot that project this summer so stay tuned that's right but yeah a lot more all the projects that we're doing right now you know if it's slab it has some interesting elements to it so it doesn't get boring or we're doing tile or both slab feels a little bit more contemporary tile backsplash is kind of right in the pocket of traditional it's you know obviously very trending right now so i it's also the type of person that you are i love and appreciate slab backsplash backslashes I'm just more of a tile guy yeah I'm a tile girl yeah you know what you are yeah that's a good first date question yes tile or slab backslash yeah or just go ahead and put that in your dating profile if that's your thing camera one camera two which slab are you you might have to have like lived a few lives before you know that I don't think I knew that about myself when I was in my 20s um depending on when you're dating but I feel like you would know that about yourself right in your late 20s or 30s or 40s maybe you've lived in a house or two you know who you are yeah i don't know if i would do it differently though in your house i still think i would do slab yeah i was just actually staring at it this morning thinking about this question i'm like yeah it just wouldn't work it would chop my kitchen in thirds and you're trying to keep that long or you'd have to take it all the way in and around everything which you could do but it would just be slivers and it probably wouldn't make too much sense we just we'd have to remodel the kitchen yeah Get a new kitchen if we wanted to do that.

17:14Should we? I'm just kidding. You have a really good kitchen. I'm in that space now where I'm like, let's just change everything. It's been a decade. That's awesome. The next question is from Courtney. She wrote in and asked, I'd love to know if you were fixing up an old home, knowing that you were going to sell it in about five years, what design decisions would you make? I'd expect that you would say to use a neutral palette for the structural elements, but I'd love to hear what materials you'd use. Would you still try to use natural stones, slab remnants, and metals? Or would you compromise and use porcelain, etc.?

17:49Any thoughts you have are very welcome. One of the things that we've learned from working with a high-end builder out of Dallas is, and he's built spec homes and we've helped him, and he feels really strongly as he's worked with realtors that you want to have memory points in your home. So to me, the neutral palette today, while that would be the answer I think all realtors would give you is like yeah just keep it neutral everybody can like it man woman no matter what nationality what their upbringing everybody can understand a neutral palette but what we've learned from Mark shout out Platinum Homes is that he says it's the memory points that make people remember your home over the other neutral homes that they were just looking at so I think you I do think that materials matter and I do think doing something that's a little bit more heroic, more interesting, if it's done in good taste.

18:37And Courtney, you're listening to this podcast. We know you love design. We know you have great taste. So you're going to make great decisions. And I would say don't phone it in because you're going to sell it in five years. Her other question is, would you still try to use natural stones, slab remnants, and metals? Or would you compromise and use porcelain? Natural stones. Yeah. I'd use those remnants. One of the things that, Corey, you were saying too the other day is that when you use porcelain, it makes you feel like they cut corners everywhere. It makes you wonder like what kind of cabinetry did they use?

19:06Where else are they cutting corners in their house? That's a huge point to make because when I, if I am looking at a home, especially if I'm looking to buy it, I'm kind of picking out things that it's like, oh, that's kind of a red flag to me. And if I see one red flag, where are there others? And that's probably going to give me a little pause. So I think that's something to consider as well. People try to judge how well you took care of your home. but by what they see. Obviously, they can't do a deep dive, especially just going and looking at it once. So those are going to be tales for the people looking at your home.

19:39Also, you're still going to live in it for five years. You want to enjoy that five years. Yeah. So I would say, and I learned this from you and your team, like helping me with my kitchen in my old home. I didn't know I was going to sell it a year after I remodeled it, but I'm so glad that I just made the decisions I did. It was, that was probably 2018 or 19. My kitchen was green and we got so many people to come and look at that house in one day. I think it was like in the twenties, the first day and just as many people the next day. It was crazy. So we had like four backup offers and everyone was remarking on the kitchen.

20:21So it may not be everyone's, you know, style or their vibe, but it attracted so many people to come and see it. And that kind of just created a buzz itself. So I don't think worrying about your investment. I think like Jess said, a lot of realtors are going to say, just keep it, keep it neutral. And you know, so it appeals to everybody. You can't sell your home to everyone. You can only sell it to one person. And if you do it, if you design your home in good taste and be thoughtful and you love it, someone else will too. Yeah, definitely. And you're going to have like some neutral elements. Let's be honest, like your carpet isn't going to be red, you know, or a color.

21:00You're going to do everything in good taste. Your wood floors are going to feel somewhat neutral. It's just some of these heroic moments. Everybody that loves design here is going to remember for one moment, Cameron Diaz's kitchen that Kelly Wurstler did for her. It was green. I think we probably showed you that kitchen. Yeah, I remember to do this kitchen. And so there are things like that, that we all remember that kitchen. We all want that kitchen. We've always loved it. It was a great move. Anyway, yeah, I think go for it, Courtney. Use your best taste. Get those remnants. You're going to be a really good shopper, and you're going to be super proud of it when it's done, and everybody's going to want it.

21:34You might not want to move. Love what you live in, and someone else will, too. Yeah, good point. Talk about life quotes. I know. Stitch that in a pillow. It's getting so hot lately. it's hard to sleep. I don't know about you, but I have nightmares when I get too hot. So I finally swapped my bedding for the cozy earth sheets. Good call. Why didn't I do that so much longer ago? They're amazing. They really are. They keep you. I think that the science says they're like 40 % cooler than cotton. Oh my gosh. I know. And they're like, I got this great hand. They're so slippery. I love how they feel. And I'm finally sleeping through the night again.

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23:20The next question is from Medora. She's sent in a couple of questions before. She's awesome. So shout out. Thank you so much. This is a great one. If you guys had to buy something at Ikea, what would it be? this is awesome tupperware yeah there you go or storage like i think their storage solutions are really good i know something we bought from ikea we bought this lot from ikea we did oh that's true yes bam we did yeah after leasing spaces for like 15 years we finally were like we should just build our own building and so we actually bought our land from ikea we bought two acres and built our own building and our address is 123 Ikea way and Ikea is across the parking lot and we were joking around earlier that we would buy the meatballs from Ikea yeah I actually haven't been over there in so long we're gonna go after this my daughter take you with us my daughter's friend just um sketched her a really darling charcoal sketch for her birthday and she was like I need to get this framed I was like run over to Ikea bring this sketch with you even if it's wide on wide it'll feel very artist so I don't remember what they have for frames but we should go over there again it's been a minute yeah hungry yeah i think college dorms yes storage i think that they do a great look on the scales usually um off for larger homes but for small apartments and things like that high five um but yeah kids toys storage meatballs meatballs yep love it i'm gonna say this with ikea furniture like you know the eight block thing that they have we have a cat room that's like it's underneath our stairs i don't know um we call it the cat room we cut a little door on the bottom so they can go yeah it's i don't know it's cool we love our cats whenever i put something together from ikea i use wood glue to put it together keeps that bad boy in place yeah it doesn't start rocking so little little ikea hack for you use glue when you're putting it together it's gonna be great awesome thanks cory yeah it's a hot tip we really should go over there and film a little something though yeah get a couple meatballs i don't know yeah next question is from Gabrielle.

25:21She asked, quick question on picking the perfect sofa color. I'm buying one for my home office, which is totally color drenched in stone blue. I'm tempted by something fun like salmon, cognac, or even a blue that matches the walls. But since it's a long-term investment, cream feels like a safer bet. You think the sofa can still play in the color drenching, or should I go for some contrast? What's your usual thought process when choosing sofa colors for a room? This is a great question too. Great question. To me, the off-white feels like the, like the one that doesn't go. Out of all of them, I wouldn't choose that for this beautiful stone blue.

26:04Yeah. I like all of your options of cognac or salmon or the blue that matches. We did this in a office. We did Capitol Heights. We did a red mohair sofa that matches the red walls and it feels so built in and considered and handsome. I love that look. And then we did the opposite, which was your other idea, Gabrielle, which is your salmon in a blue room, which is on the color wheel opposite in our Lovers Lane project. The room is light blue. And then we did kind of a red orange sofa and it sings. Your first instincts on this whole question, you already know the right answer, but I think your salmon or cognac would be really fantastic or matching the wall.

26:45seeing an ivory sofa in either of those spaces i think would have been a big disservice to the oh my gosh yes us as a designer design firm i'd be so disappointed yeah if you're watching this right now and you're looking at that red that red um library picture a white sofa there instead of the red one or if you're looking at the lover's lane beautiful blue office instead of that red sofa picture white one yeah it'd be so sad bummer yeah gabrielle you've got this i'm excited for you so excited jess your favorite cream puff your cream puff your sofa yeah had that forever and it's been blue you've carried that from house to house i have so that is a favorite i've had a blue sofa since we got married we bought a home and bought this sofa when we were living in virginia and it sits like a cream puff it's full of down and it's velvet and i love it so much it's like the one thing i can't give away even though we don't make it we don't source it it's the sit It is so awesome.

27:40But it's always worked in every home. And we've probably lived in probably four homes since then. You will not regret having a colored sofa. Yeah, especially a blue. I mean, to match your walls, you'll always love that. Okay, next question is from Jenny L. Any sneak peeks at new product? I want to see. Yeah, this is, come on, you're talking our language here. Exactly. This is Christmas for us. Jenny, we're launching new product next week. But you know what we're going to show you since you asked? We'll show you some of the new pieces on the podcast. So we have, do you guys remember our Alice flush mount?

28:13Suze did two little ones in her hallway. And these are really cute instead of cans. Well, we decided to come out with not just the white glass, also of a faux alabaster. Now, I wouldn't have thought to do faux alabaster, but our factory said that they could do it. And it looked so real. And there's like kind of a shortage on alabaster right now. So it's crazy expensive. And heavy. And so heavy. So anyway, this looked so great. We thought we could keep the price down and each one of these is different. So you're not going to get it and have identical lenses on every single one because it's faux.

28:47It's all like molten. What is it like resin or something? Yeah, it's it's poured resin. And so each one is made in in a mold. So like Jess said, it's different. It's not just like recycling the same. Yeah, you have three of these going down your hallway or like two in like Suze's and you end up and you wanted to do the faux. alabaster this lit up to really does like look like the moon it's crazy it looks exactly real you can keep the price down you've got a real brass double bullnose edge and we make this in the large size as well so these are going to launch next week but jenny l you and everybody else watching get to see it first so that's the alice flush mount we also have a new little crystal lamp that's joining the family this is so fun we're calling this the perla p-e-r-l-a it means pearl in italian so this is a crystal orb um we're sandblasted on the interior to give it that frosty look there's a single bulb in it and we've got a nylon cord we're kind of flushed on the bottom so that it lays flat and then you plug it in and this little thing is just going to glow wherever you need it that is so cool it's like a crystal ball and look into the future isn't that so rad that's so so so cool i haven't seen this guys oh my gosh i'm so excited that's rad for like a kid's room the baby lab reinterpreted into sculpture i love yeah like a big stack of books in a kid's room and that just sitting on top like a nightlight i know or in a kitchen you could have this on a shelf all aglow or in a secretary you're gonna have any high issues on a desk yeah i can't wait to start playing with this so anyway this is perla it's like a little pearl it's like a magic trick i know you're gonna get so many compliments on this the interior is opaque too so you don't see the bulb it's just kind of glowing from there i don't know if you already said that yeah it looks so good we have some favorites which are the crystal link frame is now available in the 8x10 in both landscape and portrait and then the crystal column frame is also now available in the landscape and portrait so this has been a request of all of yours for a long time so your wedding day i just think these are so beautiful a wedding photo in those family photo it also has like a cool edge i love the column frame yeah so these are the these are the portrait ones and then cory's gonna bring over or sorry these are the landscape these are the portraits that's pretty that's so beautiful maybe it's an old photo from your first birthday or i don't know you're gonna know just what to do but now our our two favorite and best-selling frames well the orb frame sells really well are now both available in portrait and landscape.

31:20And they all live well together. Yes. Which is, which is awesome. There's one other sneak peek we don't have, and it's not going to launch for a while. We have been working on a bed for a while and we're doing, it's a 10 inch bullion fringe around the base. We used to have a bed called the Tilly bed and it had a slightly canted upholstered top. It looks rectangular, but it's sort of got the edge taken off and it's a little bit slimmer at the top. We've seen the prototypes. We're so excited. We're going to try and get it here by holiday. It's going to be in this really beautiful slubby sort of tissue pink kind of a little bit of a shrimp color velvet and then it's got a bouillon fringe around it what color is the bouillon it's like a gold it's um not like a metallic gold but more like a dark taupe yeah which is so pretty they almost start to look like each other the pink and the taupe and it's stunning it's not so over the top because the headboard is some big curly shape so i think it could even be in a contemporary home or you can take it traditional, but we know that fringes are all the rage and that it's high decorating time.

32:23And so we felt like we had to take a pass at this on a bed. We've been calling it the frilly bed because it used to be called the tilly bed in house. And now it has a fringe on it. And it's in pink. So we're calling it the frilly bed, but we're going to give it a better name. Look for it before holiday. And yeah, it's going to be a showstopper. I'm so excited. The next question is from Navi. I've heard that you were supposed to keep the exterior of your house looking uniform when it comes to window coverings. However, I would like to do different window coverings in each of the rooms that face the front of the house.

32:57For example, I would like to do a Roman shade in one, shears in another, and solid drapes in another room. How do I keep it looking uniform from the exterior? Or does that actually matter? Navi, it does matter. We would say to this, your drapes are all just gonna live on the wall. And what you're actually gonna do is get a window covering, which is like picture if you will Navi a roller shade the roller shade is going to give you privacy because you're not going to be pulling your drapes open and close open and close open and close every day and night the drapes really just hang on the wall the window covering is what you're going to raise and lower to give yourself privacy or to filter light or even to be a black out shade if it's in a bedroom you usually end up doing two types of window coverings a window covering which actually covers the glass and then the decorative treatment which is your drapery so your coverings you're probably going to do something pretty uniform some people love roller shades really cost effective so there's some really pretty woven ones for that or there's even like the seagrass woven looking so maybe you'd have bamboo shades on your house but then you have drapery with ones even if you're doing a roman shade navi you're still going to put that bamboo shade underneath the roman shade to be a layer because most romans you don't want to have to raise and lower every day because you're going to want to keep them looking folded and and pressed and beautiful because some of them will be blackout some of them will be light filtering it's just that you're going to just like pay attention to the liner cover color from the outside so that those feel uniform because some of them will be more opaque than one some will be more transparent and so that's what you're paying attention to because of course you're going to want to do different window treatments in each room everybody does yeah we love it too and i would say that say that you are a purist and you're going to want to do a functional or like you don't have the room to do one or the other again the liner of all those of your romans of your window treatments if they are operable you're just paying attention to the liner colors so that they all get along from the outside do you know the other reason i like roller shades too is then you're not seeing the fold the stack of things when it's shut and that kind of being different or you know they're kind of like split in the middle if they're not all the way shut just so really when you're looking from the front of your home you're just it's all uniform and it's the straight roller pulled down i think that makes the most sense to me it looks the cleanest yeah It's the easiest to live with too.