BONUS EPISODE: Q&A with the Hosts – Life, Advice & Behind the Scenes

9:44Jessica Davis:here yeah yeah we're gonna have him peek in and then you need to look up the Spider-Man trailer Janine, since you obviously have cued into the music.

10:19Jessica Davis:So I remember the part of that song where there's clapping in it. And I was like, that's so fun and so catchy. And I feel like we're upbeat and we're happy and we try not to take ourselves too seriously. And we've listened to other design podcasts and they're dead serious. And we love design and we don't even want to listen to those podcasts. So we were like, this needs to be fun. And I love that song. It's my favorite that you've done. Thank you. Is there something with clapping? And where do you take it from here? Yeah.

10:46Suzanne Hall:So I just got in a studio with a friend of mine and we kind of just like talked over those, you know, that feedback. And it's, I mean, in the world of sync licensing, like obviously we'd written a song first and then Sony picked it up and used it in the Spider-Man Far From Home trailer. But when it's for something like very specific like this and something I was going to be a part of, it just it didn't seem like we just wanted to take a chorus or something from a Spirit City song that it needed to be its own like original thing. And I think sometimes that's a little bit easier to work that way because you can kind of like gain inspiration from, you know, feedback.

11:25Suzanne Hall:So, yeah, we I recently went through that idea that we wrote for Dear Alice and the other ones that we had. And definitely we had three ideas. This one was definitely the best looking back on it. And I think it like incorporated everything that you're you're kind of thinking. And then we made one edit on that and then we were done. So it was like pretty, a pretty quick, pretty quick thing. So, uh, yeah, it just felt right. Like the clapping and it kind of pushes against the groove a little bit, uh, which is, um, you know, a little, uh, which is a little bit off the wall, which kind of felt like us.

12:03Suzanne Hall:So, um, yeah, it's, it's fun, but I'm glad that like someone, you know, like keyed into that and, and like it. And yeah, that's cool. I get a lot of comments too. Really? Yeah. just like friends and they're like when they find out like we have a podcast they go listen to like that's a catchy that's a catchy bit at the front i'm like that's awesome i'm gonna have to take that and turn it into a song yeah backwards yeah exactly perfect dear alice there you go yeah that's a couple different uh people yeah but yeah there's like layers in it and stuff like that so i wish you had video footage of like you guys recording that that would be such good people

12:43Jessica Davis:oh my gosh and like you know you know the beginning of friends where they clap in the song oh yeah or whatever we'll be the clapper yes that would have been awesome if we ever do another one

12:54Suzanne Hall:that's what we should do is like yeah music video yep guys how lucky are we that we have cory that

12:59Jessica Davis:made our ditty at the beginning and he's on the podcast with us and he just knows everything about building and construction and design and we love it. We're so proud of it.

13:08Suzanne Hall:Amazing question. So thanks, Janine. That's awesome. Jess, you have an expert tip on how to sleep cool during these hot summer nights. Let's share it with the people.

13:15Jessica Davis:I really do. Guys, it's the cozy earth sheets. I have to tell you, they regulate temperature. And by regulate temperature, I mean between me and my husband. We sleep very different. He's a much bigger person than I am. And he sleeps so hot even just touching his body is hot so I got the sheets and I have to tell you he's sleeping through the night and we're both comfortable also they have this really pretty sheen to them which I appreciate beautiful things as you know so I think they're gorgeous the hand is amazing and they just naturally wick away heat and moisture from your body helping you sleep several degrees cooler and sleeping in a cooler environment helps offer scientifically supported benefits that enhance your sleep quality and your overall health.

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14:42Jessica Davis:Oh, boy.

14:43Suzanne Hall:Yeah, rad question.

14:44Jessica Davis:We definitely are inspired. I have to say Stephen Gambrill is a favorite of mine. If I ever get in a rut, I'm like, where's the Stephen Gambrill book? I just need to flip through it and just get my mind right. I also really admire Daryl Carter and his ability to edit. He's really good with black and white. And he has bold strokes. You know, I think some designers are really good at like a lot of fine strokes. I think Daryl Carter is like big, bold strokes. And I always admire those people that do things that I don't do. And that's probably also why I just love male designers. Thomas O 'Brien has forever been a favorite.

15:22Jessica Davis:He's his American modern, vintage modern looks. They just, they never go out of style. But as far as like Instagram accounts, they're fun to look at. And they kind of like light a new fire in me. I think House of Honey is really fun. Yeah. And I really also love EMD, their design studio, EM Design Studio. It's a capital EMD at the beginning. And I just think everything they're doing is so chic and so intentional and interesting. I think that's what we want to see at the end of the day is something that feels interesting. Something that feels hard. Honestly, I like looking at somebody break their brain over something that nobody else has thought of or has done and isn't over processed.

16:05Jessica Davis:That feels really original. Yeah. Those are a few. Those are five of my faves currently. What are you going to do? These are improv. This is improv for me. You had prep time.

16:16Suzanne Hall:I'm going to say this. um and i'm not saying this to be a homer or anything but i can honestly like i vividly remember the time where like a passion was is was ignited in me for interior design and it's from listening to suz talk about it and art like it was a long time ago in the oram showroom and you were doing like trainings and stuff and i was like man like so just working with both of you two like you're super inspiring a and like the detail that you guys like see when you look at something has like literally transformed my eye like i look at things differently because of it i'm like oh like i can't believe you guys picked up on that like it it has helped me drill in so i'm gonna say

17:00Jessica Davis:jess bennett and suzall oh thanks yeah sweet i know i just thought of a couple just like off

17:07Suzanne Hall:the cuff yeah um thank you of course yeah um I think a lot of I we always say this when we're talking about our favorite books and designs I just love original I love original artists and I love their homes and I like love how they reside I love the thoughtfulness like looking to a designer's home um and it might not be a big famous designer but I just think like you see little nuances and stuff of just like how collected it is and I key into those things because I'm like oh that's such a unique way that they you couldn't have like formulated that idea without living with that thing for a long time and then like happening upon this like little corner to put it in.

17:42Suzanne Hall:I don't know. There's like a real authenticity when you see how a designer lives and how an artist lives. I love it so much. So those are like almost unidentifiable, like the miscellaneous columns of all those books that are my very, very, very favorite. So all the Vogue books, um, anyway, all the 80s stuff, the international stuff, I just like eat it up. Um, I'll say like Rosie Miochi. Um, I love her stuff. Her book is incredible. Like her details are so great and it's so simple but then when you look closely you see like there's like this little pedal on the iron railing and you're just like oh it's so it's it's easy and it feels effortless but it's so intentional like just like little bits like that that like take a lot of care and thought and are custom but aren't like chest pounding I'll tell you what it's at the showroom

18:25Jessica Davis:but it sells out all the time I know I think it sells out because our own people buy it maybe it's the public too but it's stunning if you don't have it for your cocktail table highly suggest

18:35Suzanne Hall:it's so beautiful um another rose i love is rose charlo yeah i love her stuff and she does like the most beautiful like interiors but she also and again a real authenticity that's not yelling too hard but it's super super interesting and just very intentional i love her stuff um i will say like instagram like degourney i repost them all the time anyway just the spaces that they do with their wall coverings and their layering and there's like a i'm sure an army of designers that's like working in there just like brewing things up and i'm eating it it's so good um yeah those are just like a few places i get inspiration i'm gonna say everyone kelly worstler i mean doy like yeah just everything ralph i'm like there's just like icons that you're just like continue like what what they do and kelly's just always just anytime you like what if you walk through the proper hotel in santa monica you felt it yeah you know you know um and i feel like kelly is just such a

19:30Jessica Davis:student of design and she's always just mixing the unimaginable together and she's fearless about it yeah and i think that's the reaction that everybody feels when they're looking at her work and i think she's probably the biggest global designer in the world today yeah she's created

19:47Suzanne Hall:her own world you know and she has her own genre her own licenses amongst all of them and it's

19:53Jessica Davis:she's not loud about it but her work is loud it speaks for itself and she's just a fun she's just

19:59Suzanne Hall:cool yeah look at the way she dresses like that girl's cool yeah she knows who she is Kelly you

20:05Jessica Davis:don't need to hear it from me but you're really cool yeah there it is yep yep the next question

20:10Suzanne Hall:is from Sarah Fallon she asks uh I have been watching since day one that's amazing yeah almost six years day one was probably rough yeah I'm like I'm a little better I can't believe you're

20:21Jessica Davis:still with us I wonder what our hair looks like we haven't even looked back at day one

20:26Suzanne Hall:And then she says, love you guys so much. Super nice of her. It's awesome. And then asks, it feels like you have all worked on so many different projects. Do you have a dream project you want to tackle? I'm so glad you asked. I'd like to design Benson Boone's house. Yes. That's awesome. Anyway, how to put it out there.

20:45Jessica Davis:We believe in manifesting. We actually do have a life-size cutout of Benson Boone in the design center. We have his outfits taped to the wall in the hallway. and we're taking great inspiration from what he wears and we're just we he actually he actually lives near us and um we feel like we'd be a really good fit it'd be really fun so if anybody knows him out there put in a good word for us we would really love to do yes something for benson i think an interesting character will make for an awesome house i do too and so we do love it when we can get those people that are passionate and a lot of people are private which is really fun too and they're passionate they have great stories to tell through their interiors so anything like that

21:29Suzanne Hall:yeah musicians in general i just think would be really really fun because again like creative there's creative and they're not yeah i don't know they're an artist they're an artist but I don't know. Yeah. You get it. Yeah. The next question is from Karen from Michigan. And she says, I want to visit the store so bad.

21:52Jessica Davis:Karen, we want to. Karen.

21:53Suzanne Hall:You need to.

21:54Jessica Davis:We want to see you when you do come. Yes. DM us. That way we can meet you. Yes. Yes.

22:00Suzanne Hall:And then obviously tell us when you're going to be here. Well, yeah. We'll make sure we are. And then she asked, when are you going to expand out to Michigan?

22:09Jessica Davis:Oh, man.

22:10Suzanne Hall:man good old grand rapids would be really cute yeah yeah that would be fun um i would say like right now like man these our build outs are so tough and time consuming that we've really just been focusing on alice lane home.com because that's really like you know the sky's the limit yeah yeah so um and then we can take you know a lot of our efforts from that and you know turn it into cool pieces for your home that we can sell in there so like when we were doing this uh the building the showroom now i've like literally my entire job was to swallow it up from doing that so um took a lot of time uh one day that would be awesome who knows i'm not saying never dear alice pop-up store on tour exactly yeah there you go that'd be fun that'd be really fun the next one is from mariah and she says this is such a fun podcast to listen to really enjoyed the drapery episodes since I was working on them.

23:05Suzanne Hall:It's awesome. Serendipitous. Yeah. And she asked, I was just curious what inspired you guys to start this podcast? It was a special project.

23:15Jessica Davis:Suzanne and I, in the old days, in the first showroom, we used to be moving furniture around the floor and we would have gotten done with the design presentation and we'd be like, man, it was going so good until the husband came in and ruined everything. And then Sue and I would say, chapter two in our book is going to be called Husbands. And we're going to tell people how they... The brakes. Yeah. We'd be like, the women are the gas and the husband are the brakes. That's not true today. A lot of times the husband is the gas. Which is really fun. It's so fun when everybody is gas. But we were like, someday we're going to have a book.

23:49Jessica Davis:And we're going to call chapter two husbands. And we're going to talk about this in the book. And oh, let's teach this principle too. And finally we were like, I don't know if this book's going to happen. It's going to take so much time. We should just get a podcast. And then we can talk about husbands whenever we want. Or whatever we're learning or need to unpack. But we finally just thought this would be the easiest thing to do. We've probably spent a billion more hours doing the podcast than we ever would a book. But I don't know. I also think there's just something about tone. Even when you're reading a text, you're like, I would rather somebody send me a voice memo.

24:24Jessica Davis:I would rather them send me a Marco Polo because I want to feel their energy.

24:28Suzanne Hall:They didn't put an exclamation point on it, so they're mad at me.

24:30Jessica Davis:I do not get a text from Suha without emojis. Usually it's the two hands up in the air emoji.

24:35Suzanne Hall:I love two hands up.

24:37Jessica Davis:She'll even be delivering bad news and she'll be like, yeah. So I don't know. There's just not enough emojis to be able to feel the energy. And I think the podcast is the best way to communicate something. I also don't like to read. So I like looking at pictures, which is why I love design books. I'll read a little paragraph, but I'm not one that's going to sit and pour over a design book to learn. I want to really learn by somebody talking about it, showing images. I just think a podcast is such a great medium for that. So we decided to give it a try. Corey's over special projects. We're like, hey, do you think you can figure out how to make us podcast?

25:14Suzanne Hall:I did my best. I can say that. Yeah, we were shooting from the hip back then.

25:19Jessica Davis:It's been several different versions in lots of different locations.

25:22Suzanne Hall:We have a producer, Ryan, over here. Yeah. He's killing it.

25:26Jessica Davis:Was it just last year that we went on YouTube? The idea of putting it on video was like, oh no.

25:31Suzanne Hall:I think it's going to be two years this fall that we've been on YouTube, which is crazy.

25:35Jessica Davis:We can't make those faces. We got to try and smile all the time.

25:38Suzanne Hall:I think the first time we recorded, we saw ourselves and we're just like, nope. Yeah, because originally we were going to do a recorded one version of it. And we did record.

25:49Jessica Davis:Episode one through six probably were recorded. And we never showed those because we did not like them.

25:54Suzanne Hall:Yes, yeah. we weren't good with lighting and all of that back then. And we were in a darker room. So that was like, that made it really difficult. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and I think we did it in a good way because having to tackle both at the same time, like I feel like we needed to get used to juggling just the podcast. It's a production. Yeah. Yeah. So, and I think also being able to like, we're, we're good at talking about design. Um, but it's such a visual medium that like being able to express, what we're trying to get out like without a video I think like really upped our game as far as being able to talk about design I've intellectually I tell people all the time like I have I feel like I have a degree just from being on the podcast yeah yeah and I uh remember because I was just thinking yeah we're gonna like start a podcast and I'm gonna sit behind the camera and I'm just gonna listen to you to talk you know and then just one day I like remember it happening she was like yeah like and then you're gonna be on the podcast and you know give me perspective yeah i was like okay like i didn't feel i felt i had some imposter syndrome exactly uh but yeah i think it's it's honestly it's been the favorite part of my job um and yeah i mean obviously love hanging out with you guys and and it's it's fun so and i learn a ton so it's awesome um yeah that's the reason we did it love uh the next question is from gordon he says you three are so funny thursdays are the best days of the week since we get a new episode if you could steal one design item from each each other's homes what would it be and why that's an amazing question your guitars okay okay that's awesome and i just realized i did not do this homework that i was supposed to do sorry jess jesse's home i need to like go through my archives hold on i'm gonna do i would do your primary vanity just with the double nose yeah just get that over here because it's so dope yeah yeah you just won the game i'll trade your guitar for it actually i know i'm just like gucci

28:03Jessica Davis:wallpaper i want to steal um some of suz's original art yeah um i actually i love suz's bathroom but her entryway like she made love out of nothing at all i know that song about air supply yep like she doesn't have an entry she just has this little hallway and she made this moment with this Frida painting that's like neon yellow and this French chest which you'd never put the two together it's great mirror and she has this rosary that's all twisted up you know on a couple different nails and always fresh flowers and always the best candle and it's just such a moment it's such an artsy all-in Suzanne Hall moment I can't steal it because it's so her but I just seem like so So proud of her when I see that.

28:50Jessica Davis:I'm like, I don't know how you did that. There wasn't even space for that. It's awesome. Also, your art collection is bananas. Thanks, Jess. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, just like 50 % of her art is just steal it just so that I could have more art. Yeah. And she, I mean, she's got art from her floorboards to her ceiling. She's probably got art in places that are like in storage rooms. You've got so much art.

29:12Suzanne Hall:I just take it to the frame when he stores it for me.

29:14Jessica Davis:Yeah.

29:14Suzanne Hall:It's good to do it. Yeah. Your purple piece of original art that sits over your bed. I'd steal that right now.

29:19Jessica Davis:Oh, yeah, that's a good one. I want that in like three places in the house.

29:22Suzanne Hall:No, I'm like, I could think of so many spots for that right now. I would say the lighting in your house is amazing. Oh, yeah. Thank you. But also one thing that I have never mentioned, but I've always admired, is your balustrades. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I love that they're white and the railing is, is it, what kind of wood is it? It's white oak. Okay, white oak, yeah. The handle is, yeah. Yeah, I've always, just when you're walking into your house, just like that view of it, like I've always just noticed the railing and balustrades. And the fact that you fit like a center hall table within a corridor.

29:54Suzanne Hall:So cool. I know. Yeah. So rad. So rad. Also, you're Christopher Marley. Those bugs stacked in your family room. I'd still those two. I'd put that in my purse. Oh, yeah, you would. Yeah, you would. You've been your big one.

30:07Jessica Davis:Wait, Corey, I haven't been in your house yet, but you know what I love that you did? Okay. I love that you have a green kitchen, and I love that you have a pink closet. Don't you also have a pink primary bathroom?

30:19Suzanne Hall:Yes. Yeah. I love that you're not afraid of color.

30:23Jessica Davis:And especially as a guy, I think you instigated those decisions.

30:26Suzanne Hall:100%. Yeah. Everyone always thinks it was my wife that did that. I was like, no, I loved it.

30:32Jessica Davis:The first green kitchen I ever saw was Cameron Diaz's kitchen that Kelly Wurstler did for her. Green kitchen, brass countertops. So dope. And you're the second green kitchen I know.

30:41Suzanne Hall:Thank you. It's awesome.

30:43Jessica Davis:It's very rock star of you. I love it. So thank you so much.

30:46Suzanne Hall:I learned it from you guys from the best, you know? Yeah. The next question is from Jasmine Perkins. She wrote in and asked, I'm wondering if you all could answer how to start a career in interior design. I don't have a bachelor's degree. I was looking into going to school to get an interior design degree, but the recent issues with student loans and colleges getting rid of degrees from lack of funding, I'm hesitant to start. If you have any tips on how to get internships or apply for jobs, I would really appreciate it. Great question. That's a great question.

31:17Jessica Davis:Really good question. I think this is, Jasmine, this is super normal. I want you to know that. And actually one of my favorite podcasts is called Second Life. And they always talk about somebody who went to school for something and then they got into something else because it was like their heart just drove them to it. And Sue and I, we were just answering the same question on our carpool Q &A the other day. And a lot of people ask us like, how is there a way just to get into it without having a degree? And it's really common to be able to have people like this within a firm, helping in other ways.

31:49Jessica Davis:And you're going to have a superpower that somebody else doesn't have. So you just have to get rid of that part of your brain that has imposter syndrome that says you can't do it. I don't have a degree in interior design. I actually studied advertising design, went through the design wing and all of the studies there and the schooling there. And then I worked in ad agencies as an art director and loved it. But I had this bigger pull to play with three-dimensional stuff in design. And it really lit me on fire and I couldn't stop. So it's definitely a calling. And if you're feeling called to it, you need to do it.

32:23Jessica Davis:I mean, we have room for stylists in the showroom. We have room for support in the interior design firm where you can be on projects helping to manage it. We need people with left brains and right brains in design. There's a place for you. there's a lot of people that might start as a stylist and then move into design you might even just have to pick up a few classes to learn autocad if you want to i just think you have to be bold enough to be able to walk in the doors of a few shops and see what's available or if there's even somebody that works on their own and they need a second set of hands maybe you do it for free for a little while and then you really cut your teeth and get into it um i don't know

33:01Suzanne Hall:what advice do you have sue i was about to say confidence carries like if you have confidence and yeah you do and every artist has imposter syndrome I have it like every day still and I have a degree blah blah blah but I do think that if you love I always tell people if they're wanting to get into interior design um and they don't want they're in a situation where they're not going to go back to school whatever that's I get it um I would find a shop or a designer that you admire and I would just like really express to them your passion and that your drive to do anything I think those are the people that always stand out to me that have worked for us that have grown the quickest are the ones that say put me in coach like i'll organize your samples i'll do

33:40Jessica Davis:anything i just want to be here i'll help you with your social media exactly i'll be on the other end

33:45Suzanne Hall:of the camera you talk i had one girl that she just helped me like and spend the biggest blessing like organize my pinterest into folders and i was like thank goodness she walked through the door you know but just like those are the people that just like they start small and they're memorable because like they were just they're hungry they're passionate and that's not something that school necessarily teaches you. You haven't.

34:05Jessica Davis:So interior design is one of those jobs that could never sleep. I know I'll fall asleep at night and I'm still trying to solve for things in my head and having an extra set of hands. Somebody willing to do anything is pretty rare today. And I think that willingness goes a long way and your ability to work hard. And there's just so much work to always be done. Anybody would appreciate more hands. Yeah. Good luck.

34:29Suzanne Hall:So this next one is our last question and i know you know what it is jess but suz you don't and i'm just gonna say this is probably like i'm gonna cry no but just such a thoughtful question and you can know if you want yes okay and we we know she's a fan from the question uh so her name is camilla and she's from new york and she wrote in and asked this is so silly it's not uh but since you ask it for every interview i want to know from the host how do you guys define luxury that's a good question yeah i mean super guys go first i'm gonna think i have an answer if you want me to go first i'm not saying that i think there is room for i mean you have to care about others what others think of you but i think luxury to me is the freedom of doing what you want within reason um and what expresses you and having the freedom of not caring what other people think of that you know or like the jealousy that other people might get or like if it's not their vibe you know that lady saying to you like that's oh that's career suicide it's like well guess what you're not the one doing it so it doesn't matter you know and just having the that yeah like Like freedom and courage to just to do it and to be you.

35:52Suzanne Hall:And that's, you know, as I get older and older, that's something I'm kind of growing into more and more. And yeah, to me that that's what like luxury is, just having that, getting rid of the anxiety of what others think of you.

36:08Jessica Davis:Excellent answer.

36:09Suzanne Hall:Thank you.

36:09Jessica Davis:I do see how, I mean, I heard Gwyneth Paltrow say something along those lines where she's like, when you get to a certain age, you get that upgrade right in your brain where you don't care what people think anymore. It's like, you know, you go to bed and you plug in your iPhone and then it upgrades in the night. And for Gwen, as she said, that happened when she turned 50. And I'm actually going to turn 50 in August. And I, I'm like, I can't wait to wake up in the morning and have that upgrade in my brain to where I don't care. Cause I, I constantly am so aware and caring what people are thinking because I'm trying to read them because we design for them.

36:47Jessica Davis:And I would love to just unapologetically just go forward without the fear or the care and just do what I know absolutely is a full body yes for me. I really feel that. I think that's such a fantastic answer. I love that.

37:03Suzanne Hall:Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I think that's something you probably, everyone works at their entire life is just having to just be comfortable in their own skin you know and be who they are yeah so kudos to you thank you so

37:15Jessica Davis:young too thank you so young and fresh yeah yeah 38 years of age yeah do you know your answer i

37:21Suzanne Hall:don't know mine you don't the thing that i i thought about this before like a little bit i wish i'd have prepped a little bit more for today but um off the cuff um i think how do i define luxury i define luxury as time like i think time is like the most precious thing that you can give yourself it's the most precious thing you can give clients it's the most precious thing you can give your family and just your head I think there's so much always pulling at us especially in my stage of life right now like we work full-time I have three little boys like there's not a whole lot of time but whenever I do get time you know to fraction it to anything that I really really love be it to like one of my kids or to one client that I really get to just like sit in thought and think about it and like really develop it like there's like a magic that happens like chemically in your brain that you just like it it instills confidence time instills confidence and I think confidence kind of goes back to what you were saying that you're just like you're confident in the idea moving forward you're confident in presenting it you're confident in yourself you know and so I think time for me feels like such a luxury right now um but I think what Time gives me as confidence to be proud of the things that I'm spending time with or on or who, you know.

38:36Suzanne Hall:So time. Yeah. Awesome answer.

38:39Jessica Davis:That's great. I love that. I think downtime is such a luxury. Yeah. What's that? Yeah, exactly. Tell me about that.

38:48Suzanne Hall:Seriously, 2025, it's hard.

38:49Jessica Davis:It's hard to just even think your own thoughts, you know, because there are so many distracting things that are screaming at you for energy. so just to plug a phone in and put it face down on a surface and leave it alone and um i love a pair of silk pajamas and i like to just put those on and get out of my clothes and lately i've been loving to just go out on my porch i think it's because we recently like styled it and planted it and lay down on the love seat so nobody can see me and just try and think my own thoughts and just have stillness and quietness feels like such such a luxury right it's so everything's so loud

39:25Suzanne Hall:and fast paced and like all the time just everyone's tech can text you and call you and

39:29Jessica Davis:you know do all these and even on saturday morning i'll like go open up the blinds i'll crank open my window and i'll just go back and lay in bed and just listen to the birds chirp because it's it's like i don't know or like going through a walk through the forest but just doing the things to really unplug with time which we don't have enough of yeah to just get your brain to reset and not have to be constantly, constantly grinding and just time with people you love. I think that's such a reset for the batteries to just recharge and for you to remember who you are. It's rough out there. And I think what we have is so valuable in that we do get to do this work for other people, but we do need to be able to reset it and go in and have energy for them too.

40:16Jessica Davis:Yeah.

40:16Suzanne Hall:So true. Great answers. Well, guys, that was it. I totally didn't cry. No, yeah. Almost. Almost did, yeah.

40:22Jessica Davis:Yeah, you did good.

40:24Suzanne Hall:Well, Camilla, thank you so much for that question. It was super thoughtful. Thank all of you guys for the questions. Yeah, we are so excited that we were able to record an episode like this and, yeah, answer some more of the personal questions you guys have. So if those are the questions you guys do have, send them in. You know, we'll have to do a bonus episode like this again. So, yeah, if you do, send them to dearalice at alicelanehome.com. Yes.

40:47Jessica Davis:And thank you to all your listeners. You guys make possible what we're doing here. We're so grateful for you. If you do have time, rate and review, it helps the podcast grow. And don't forget to get yourself something really nice at alicelanehome.com right now during the anniversary sale. We'll catch you guys next time.

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