Finding Your Design Style: Interior Design Q&A

0:00Hello everyone, welcome to Dear Alice and you know what, welcome to 2026. Happy New year. happy new year guys can you believe i feel like we're in the future like there's driving cars yeah there's i mean 2026 doesn't that sound so futuristic crazy yeah like 2030 i'm gonna like i don't know i might be twinkled into the space you probably will be that's a star that still feels so far away but it's like it's gonna be there before we know it just goes to show how old we are yeah i remember being in like high school and being like the 2002 olympics will be in Salt Lake City and I was just like that's so like if we're even alive if the earth exists anymore I'm like 2002 forever okay we know what happens with Y2K computers are gonna blow up we're the we're the exact same situation now with 2034 Olympics and then like AI it's like uh people are it's gonna be robots we're gonna be like Wally just like scoot around I'm like Anyway, anyway.

0:59I love it. Well, happy new year, everybody. Thanks for joining us today or tomorrow or whenever it is you're tuning in. We just couldn't help ourselves. We had to record a new podcast for the new year. I wanted to say today's the last day. If you guys want to shop our end of season sale, these are a lot of really great, great deals. Cashing those gift cards with a discount as well. Yeah, that's crazy. That's how you stack things right there. Yeah. So go check that out. you can get up to 50 % off right now, our exclusives. These are the things that we actually love the most, that we're most proud of.

1:32And they're there for up to 50 % off. So go ham at alicelainhome.com. Get yourself something really nice to start 2026 with. Today's a listener question episode. And obviously questions came from you guys. So thank you. And if you would like to see one of your questions either on one of these episodes or possibly it be an entire episode itself, leave a comment on YouTube or Spotify or send us an email at Dear Alice at alicelanehome.com. So yeah, let's jump into it. Let's do it. The first question is from Kaylee. She wrote in and said, love the show. Super helpful. Would love an episode on how to define your overall style of design.

2:07I feel like I collect art that I like, but I am not sure what my overall vibe is or how to bring it all together. Great starting question. That's a good question. I think everybody gets stumped on this at some point, especially when you're at that place where you're trying to buy things to make your home feel like a home you're like ah who am i and you know what kaylee this is actually hardest for yourself i turn into i turn into you during this on my own house i'm like who am i sue remind me and i'll show her too and she's like of course you're the one on the right or of course you're this and it's so grounding remember how much you hated that one shirt that you got that was the left yeah you're not that.

2:47Yeah. I know what happens then. I know. I seriously, it's, you're so blind to yourself and you can see it going a million different ways. So I think it is so helpful to have your phone a friend option, your best friend. You've, you've got to, you've got to help talk it out. But I do think we've done episodes on different design styles. And Kaylee, I'll say this. It's usually you're not so on the nose with just one. You're a mashup of two things or maybe two or three things, because I think the canned house where it's all one thing, it's not really going to really truly reflect you. And today, those sort of perfect canned houses are really out.

3:25And what they're saying is really good and really in. And what's being published is weird. People want to see weird homes. They want to see homes that are totally you. They want to see the stuff on your shelves. They want to tell your story. And storytelling is what's really hip. So we just have to dig deep and figure out your story and figure out where you've been that really lights you up inside. And even just starting with your favorite colors, some of that, and then overall styles. But I think we have recorded in the past. Haven't we done a podcast on the different styles? Yes. So different design styles.

3:57That was earlier this year. But then I think last year, maybe the year before, we did like a North Star one, kind of like developing, curating your style. Yeah. So go check those out. But really quick, we want to answer the last part of your question, which is I feel like I collect art that I like, but I'm not sure what my overall vibe is or how to bring it all together. And to that, Suze, you're a great art collector. Do you have any notes for Kaylee as she's trying to figure out what her vibe is? Art is the hardest thing. So I'm like, I'm stoked that you're finding pieces that you like. That's huge.

4:28So when you do find something you like, grab it, get it on your wall. And I think as I started to collect art and like it wasn't until I had enough on my wall to like really start to identify it, you know, because they were tangible pieces I spent money on. I called Jess. I'm just like, oh, my art has people in it. How did this happen? I'm just like, I had no idea. And Jess is like, you love people, Sue. Like, this is like, this is no surprise to anybody. And I'm like, you're right. I hate being by myself. I can't even like sit in my own thoughts or like, but just music. I have to call somebody.

5:00So as you like start to put things on your wall, you'll like, you'll learn that you're just like, I am taking that with me to my next house. Or I like, I'll never, I love this piece for this reason. And art's one of those things that you should have an emotional response. It's almost like the soul of your house. It is. Yeah. When I think about your home, I think about your art. Yeah. I'm just like, I don't even know what's on my floor. I don't either. I don't either. Yeah. It's all of this stuff that's at eye level that you really identify with. And one thing that we know is true today, and that is you're going to frame the art for what looks good on the art.

5:34You're not framing it for all of the other colors or metals that are happening in your room. you're just really highlighting that piece to really bring it to life and then you're going to put that on the wall and you'll be surprised at how you can start to collect things that will remind you of that it'll be your jumping off point you're starting off point so I love that you already love to collect art I would say another thing that will help really define your style will be your rug that's going to be like your other biggest piece of art or biggest impact maker in your room and then you'll start to really understand what goes with that but you don't have to have a whole vision for the whole thing all at once.

6:08Don't feel like you have to know that. You just have to start somewhere. And I love that you're starting with art because that's, that's the soul. That's those identifying pieces that say, this is who I am. This is what I'm about. Yeah. And over the years I've gotten rid of some pieces and I'm just like, that doesn't resonate. Or like, I like, maybe I got on a deal. There isn't a good story behind it for me to like keep it instead of this other thing that like moves me. Right. It does have a lot of soul. So it's okay if it's even something as you evolve and your style becomes more defined it's okay that some of those things will go by the wayside to make room for something that is really great that's all part of it our houses should change our style should evolve um so i'm excited for you this that's a really fun challenge for you our next question is from siler they wrote in and asked can you make an episode talking about how you find inspiration to make a room or how you see a room's potential?

6:59Like, do you look on Pinterest, for examples? Yes, we do look on Pinterest. But Susan and I will often do the first-time consultation together, Alice Lane Interiors, and we'll often try to understand the room's potential outside of seeing Pinterest or even their mood boards and just sort of studying what's sort of the problem-solving of the room and going, oh my gosh, I cannot believe that they're sitting here on this gold mine if we were just to re-space plan this or make this the focal point or change that window to be this kind of window and then do this with it, everything would change. And so we're kind of looking at sort of the math of the problem first and then we can get into the vibe and all of that.

7:45But it's really amazing to just picture a room completely empty, nothing in it, and then go for the room's potential. And then of course, you're going to solve that with style as well. I think we've, you almost first want to solve the problem before you open up the can of Pinterest, because there's a lot there. And usually the client will have a Pinterest folder of things that they're attracted to. And we're solving for them, right? What's inside their body, what's inside their mind. Let's see your Pinterest board and then we'll take your Pinterest board and we'll up-level it. We'll raise you.

8:16We'll raise you. Better algorithm. Yes. And we will make you a North star of ways that we're going to both solve the problem and show you things that are a possibility because maybe they are not as exposed, if you will, or their algorithm isn't as exposed to some new ideas. So we love to use their images with our images once we already have an idea of where we're going with it to make something great. I don't know. Would you add anything else to that, Sue, when you're looking for inspiration for a room? Do you ever open Pinterest first? No, I think it really does come down to just because even like when you go to Pinterest yeah there might be things that I mean because frankly you'll get distracted because there's just so much to see on Pinterest if you're not looking for something that's pointed like if we've studied it out if I've already started sketching what ideally like if I blended it up like this and turn the vantage point this way okay they're going to have a hard time visualizing I mean I'll sketch it for them but I want to find some examples of showing them just like this type of hood on this type of wall with these types of windows because that's what I'm seeing in my head and I'll try and find things to support that to support your vision to support the vision that i've already had yeah yeah and usually again it's form follows function like you figure out what is the best functionality for the room what is the best vantage point when i walk into that space to like do the biggest things with i don't know to make the most impact and so you figure that out and then you can like have a really pointed search and you'll understand kind of after you've looked at their pinterest you kind of understand their style and be like okay they're comfortable with these things so i'm not going to quite show them this because they're going to like retaliate and think that I'm not listening or not seeing what they love.

9:50Yeah. And so then you kind of have to funnel, you know, your ideas with what they find successful and then try and push them to be something better. So, yeah. So do that too. If you are like bored by your Pinterest, start following somebody that is inspiring. If you're, if you're like, my space planning is awesome. My house is dope. I don't need to change a thing. And I just like need to like fill, fill a mood. That's what I I would start maybe like looking at Pinterest board or looking at fashion lines or grab a magazine. I love doing that. I love grabbing a physical magazine or a book sometimes.

10:22And I know we have Pinterest, but there is something about like an actual, like the tactile nature of a book. I always find something. When I start to look through it, I'm like for any projects, I'll find something to inspire a detail. Yeah. And it's not usually the on the nose. It's not that you're looking at a kitchen to solve your kitchen problem. is that you're seeing an outfit and a combination of colors that you're like, I never would have thought of this citron, you know, color paired with red. But if we made that the welt on this chair, it would give that vibe, you know. So it's usually like finding it in an unexpected way that will sort of light you up.

11:02Color of the dome in Florence or something will like, you know, it could be something completely off topic, but you're just like, that's the earthiness that they were wanting. and I need to look in this avenue now, you know, to try and like just get more inspired. So anyway, look. It like opens up the neural pathways instead of closes it in and keeps you in kitchen. That's a great point. And it's almost more, more creative, if you will. More inspiring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great question. The next question is from Brianne. She wrote in and asked, one thing I'm thinking about often, but not sure how to implement is art for the viewing pleasure of children.

11:34I've been collecting small original works and I try to put them at a level where my children can observe and admire them, but I still want to display them in a cool and intentional way. Any thoughts? High five, Brianne, for wanting to give your children the pleasure of seeing original pieces of art. That's really kind of you. I would, like, for the actual viewing pleasure of your children, I don't know that I necessarily, I mean, unless you just collect so much art that you can go from baseboard to ceiling and you just, like, start putting things. I don't know if I would intentionally hang art in a low spot I didn't have anything else stacked on top of it.

12:10Does that make sense? Yeah. But I would make it an intention to like make sure that my stacks go low enough for them to admire. I would talk to them about it. And like I'd maybe even have them part of just like the gathering and framing process of it. Just so they can see it and understand the why. These are, you know, mommy stories and we're sharing them with you. Well, and I feel like in your kid's room, like you have a stack next to the Mitzi shelf that starts low enough. like probably two or three feet off the ground. And then there's one on top in the same size frame and one on top of that.

12:41So there is something for them to enjoy as well as you to enjoy. And then even the piece in their bedroom that if you're, if you're little Louie and you're standing on your bed, you're looking right in the eye of this great Jaguar, right? Tiger? Yeah. Jaguar. Jaguar. Yeah. And so that's even at his eye level when he's standing or jumping on his bed. I think kids are going to take in art wherever. But when I thought about this, I remembered seeing in my mind, there's a project we did in Dallas on Lover's Lane. And the client had collected the kids' art that they themselves made over the years and had them all framed alike in white frames and did a kids' gallery up the back set of stairs.

13:22Sometimes in homes, you'll have a formal staircase at the front of the house by the front door and then a backside coming up the mud hall or the kitchen and she had a whole kids gallery. And I just thought this was such a great solution. I think galleries in stairways or hallways are great because they're passageways to another room and you really can stop and admire really up close. And you can see that piece that you, your self-portrait from when you were in sixth grade or fifth grade. I mean, we all have a self-portrait that we've painted of ourself, you know, you can see whatever it is that you've made.

13:52And I love that she collected, you know, I don't know, maybe this is a gallery of, let's call it 12 pieces and we installed it for her on the back hallway and I just think this is an awesome solution so if you happen to be watching right now you can see this art being installed at the project that we were on this was probably in like 2021 or so I thought this was a good solution it was great and it's something that they've continued to add which is fun about galleries and going low and going high and it is something that you like you just have it just the wall talks you know and it's fun for kids and and I think too when especially whether they're pieces of originals that they get to appreciate or their own originals I think is always like the other day Manolo brought me a piece that he was super proud of he's just like we should put this on the wall I was like you're totally right and so just right then I got a piece of tape and I just taped it to the wall and he's just like great okay he didn't need to get it framed or anything like satisfied and he gets to feel proud of it so I'm like even doing gestures like that just to show that you're listening and that you appreciate their art and that they, he knew that I appreciated art because he knows that that's what I do.

14:55And that's what I put on my walls. And so anyway, I, and I hope I'm just like, I remember, I'm sure you all do too, like pieces maybe in the homes that you grew up and like, you know, there's certain pieces that I'm just like, I'm going to put my name on the back of that from my mom's house. Cause I'm like, I remember exactly where that lived when I grew up. And so I'm like you kids. And it's not like she sat and talked about it for me or that she hung more low for me to see but it's just the stories that she told me about that piece so I think talking about it more than like getting it right in their vantage point you get to win because it's just going to look lovely and you've collected it but you just get to like talk about it and take them to museums take your kids to museums everybody like I think I know that it's chaotic I have three boys so I definitely have to like time it when it's not a busy time but I really do like anytime that there's a new gallery or or something that I can just like expose them even if So it's for a microsecond that like, cause they're not going to want to stay as long as I want to, but I want to make it a thing that they, they know that that's where I go for it to be inspired.

15:54So anyway, take them to galleries. Michael sent in our next question and he asked quick question concerning lighting from your previous episode, recess lights versus pendants or sconces. Which one should reign supreme in your home? D all of the above. Yeah. All of the above. I mean, they all serve different purposes. and if you know if you're a more recent home then for sure you're going to have recessed lights that should never be your only fixture recessed lights should never rain that just should give you overall light in your house so if for some reason you do live in a home where it's only cans and they haven't spent time on the fixtures congrats because that means that gets to be the great work that you do and that's going to evoke personality and you're going to really work on getting the scale and the design really right but when I think about an entryway I think there's probably cans way up in that ceiling.

16:45There's probably a main fixture centered on that scene. And then you're going to have sconces on the wall above your console or a chest or something like that. So you really need lots of layers of light. I am even so bold as to say, I would put a lamp on top of that chest, even though there's sconces on it. You really, I just like all the different layers of light in the glow. And what you're going to find is in the evening, you're never going to turn on those cans. It's going to be the lamp. It's going to be the lamp that's on and the sconces or maybe there's an art light those up yeah and then i'm gonna have my chandelier on a dimmer and then i really only need those overall lights on i don't know if there's like i don't even know you'll use those the least yeah if you're cleaning you'll turn them if you're cleaning at night yeah if you have to do surgery in your entryway for some weird reason you turn those on yeah um but i i'm i'm a real mixed lighting kind of gal and the cans being my least favorite, but you need them.

17:42I mean, we just barely, you know, had Thanksgiving a few weeks ago and there's a lot of cooking and I was grateful I had the cans and not just because there's so much prep on different counters and different cooks. And so there are times when you do need just more light because you're work because you're really working. But a lot of times you just, if you're just dining and you're sitting at your Island, it's just more ambient to have your dependence on. And I think it's one of the most overlooked things in homes is the potential that having great decorative lighting can do for a home. It actually makes it feel like home.

18:15And a mood. And a mood. Yeah. I mean, like this happened this morning, I walked downstairs and Mario has like all the overhead light. And I'm like, whoa, I want to be like, I need to take a moment before I wake up. You know what I mean? Just open the window. Yeah. But yeah, I just realized how much that affected my mood. And I was just like, okay, I need to reset and do that whole thing. So ease into it. Yeah. Kids do the same thing. I'm like, damn it. Just like fill up your shade. Just let the sunshine wake you up. Exactly. You need a soft entrance. You guys watch Nobody Wants This? Yes. One of my favorite.

18:52That's probably my favorite show for this year. When they're having a dinner party and the rabbi puts Joanne in charge of the lighting for the party. Yeah. That's how important this question is, is that you have to get the lighting right or it will totally kill your vibe. Totally. So you definitely want those pendants and you definitely want those sconces. You have to have the recess lights. That's a necessary evil. But what's going to make you look really good and give you a vibe and make you sexy to your friends, it's the pendants and the sconces. Brittany wrote in our next question and she asked, do you have a trend or style you are secretly embarrassed to talk about on the pod or is it just super weird?

19:29love you guys thanks oh britney love you too i love it oh josh you go is there a trend or something you know what's fun suzanne i'm gonna speak for you for a minute because it's hard to talk about oneself and then you can you guys can speak for me okay okay suzanne britney suzanne bought a super weird house i'm just gonna go ahead and say it it was everyone questioned my decision let's be honest no we did not question it suzanne's the smartest amongst everybody at the table suzanne bought a home in 2020 and got a full acre of land in Highland, Utah. And she bought a 1971 ranch style home. She has a barn.

20:07Like she's got an acre. She's already winning at life. But what she inherited was just some weird choices from the previous owner that never sold the house since 1971. So Suzanne inherited a lot of Barbara's ideas. And her plumbing and her electrical oh yeah and she's can suz's continued to pay for those decisions you have but what what got weird britney is that suzanne started to like the things and so long and you want to know what the boys the boys bath the boys was what color orchid it was like it was the most awful color of purple and suzanne decides to affectionately call it orchid and then she started to say after living in the house for three years i kind of like the orchid i'm like i think this might be color astrology i looked fantastic and there's there's like there's a suzanne doesn't want to change the kitchen anymore she's just like you know what i actually really like the kitchen here's this is this is what happens when you hang out with the wrong person i wanted to i want to say like this for my daughter right now who doesn't listen to this podcast if you date the wrong guy for a long time you really start to think it's fantastic you know you start to see the potential in people you start to see the potential in the orchid bathroom and pretty soon that super weird thing is like looking pretty good to you it's tasty goggles yeah yeah beer goggles exactly yeah so anyway i will report back that suzanne did indeed not paint the new bathroom that she remodeled orchid but she reflects back fondly on it and likes to look at those old listing photos park had balls man like she went she colored drench before it was cool yes she did anyway yes she did it an orchid yeah and it was kind of fun living with an orchid bath for a minute right yeah yeah it was yeah it was fun i think there's some other things too that you're like you know what the the paneling in the basement oh i know it's like that sunday show i know like i'm on stranger things every night you like leaning into it and there is something kind of fun about living with something kind of weird yeah yeah like you start to get it i know and you dress it you know and you're just like am i ralph foreign here like who am i or when now now that they're saying wood drenching is coming back in you're like i get that yeah i get that i could do a wood drench in this basement after living in this simulated walnut grain yeah right with maybe etched elk on the wall i don't know i don't know i think that's what's kind of fun about a remodel is that you can kind of try on somebody else's stuff and and roll around in it and live with it and and then sort of decide if there's something about it that's kind of fun yeah because we do keep hearing from the editors that they want they want weird things yeah they want things that are personal or unique or they just really want people to dig deep and find who they are and they're so sick of the same thing over and over again so I think for that like I would I mean you haven't changed your mantle I know there's a question about that and you love it now I really do yeah and I feel like I love it for you when I see it I'm like don't change it yeah yeah and then and then there are just like some really redeeming qualities about the kitchen too yeah that you're like yeah you don't even hurry to change it yeah so I don't know I I think I don't know I think that's sort of some of the super weird things that I've gotten to sort of encounter with because we're so close and it's been so fun watching you sort of try on these things and kind of fall and kind of fall in love with it.

23:36Do you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. I don't know. How about you guys? Is there anything she asks, do you have a trend or style that you're secretly embarrassed to talk about on the pod? I, by the way, I'm not secretly embarrassed about that. Oh no, no. I will say I love it for you. When you first get into something though, I remember when I first, and I'm just like, okay, I could do 1970s like rants. That's cool. But then like, as I looked, there were, I posted a lot less. I mean, definitely we've remodeled and done great things with it, but I definitely posted a lot less of my house than when I was in the attic because I made my stamp on it and I was living with someone else's decisions that weren't mine that I, you know, you, frankly, like you probably like, you might be sitting in a home, but you're just like kind of embarrassed of, or you're just like, it's just not what you want it to be.

24:20Right. And so I think that that's part and some of that might be a trend that you went heavy in. You, you probably went hard on modern farmhouse. Most people did kind of embarrassed about it. Right. You might be, have a few barn doors up right kind of embarrassed about it you know but anyway but it's good and at the time you might you may have been saying oh I love the country I love farmhouse and like this is modern and fresh like I am and this is totally me but then you've evolved and so there's all there's always there's pieces of art that I was just like oh let's just like put that and donate like anyway wasn't wasn't cool but you figure out who you are and then you you can I don't know be proud of where you're at I'm proud of where I'm at yeah where I am well I also think it was I think it you know you think about people moving into a remodel and they want to just like right away they're like oh I'm changing everything don't don't worry I'm it's it's all going away I'm ripping it all out but I think it was kind of fun the way that the the layers that you've kind of peeled this onion you know what I mean in and that you took the time to just sort of like figure out what you wanted to keep and what you didn't want to keep.

25:27And you were really methodical about it. And there was parts from the old house, like the storage tower in the boys' bathroom. You kept the layout the same because it was so smart. I think if somebody had just bought the home and they were going to get it and remodel it, maybe flip it, that they might try and modernize it and put two sinks and two mirrors on the wall or something like that. But I don't know. I just feel like you were super thoughtful about how you took it in and, and went about solving the problems and continue to peel back the onion, but you've made it so cool and so interesting in, in the learning of the home.

26:03And it's almost like you can feel its heartbeat and you probably wouldn't have ever thought that you're a seventies ranch style. Like you've always identified with global eclectic, but you really are a 70s ranch style. Yeah, like it's so become you. So I think it's like just sort of getting in the weird and sitting in it and taking the time to peel the onion that you can come out with something really, really individual and yeah, just awesome. Like a different kind of awesome that's out there where you just really get to feel uniquely you, you know. It's true. Yeah. I love this next question because of the question itself, but also this is our first question from, it says Oakley family or Oki family.

26:46It's a Oki family. They wrote and asked, if budget, time and logistics weren't an issue, what dream project would each of you take on? Oh, such a legit question. Do you want me to go first? Yes. Okay. I'm thinking of this more of like a location and then this has been like in the back of my mind. like I've mentioned on last week's episode I went to Mexico for 10 days oh yes I would love seeing my friend's house it's fantastic if he his wife's Allie she's a went to an interior design school so she did a great job I love the building materials and just the way they have thought of certain things there and I would love to yeah build a house there if if money an issue yeah proximity weren't an issue that's what I would do and I think yeah it would be it would be so fun.

27:35I fantasize it. Like it'd be awesome to live next door to him, you know, that would be cool. So that's what I would do. That's my dream project. So. I love that. Gosh, you know, I mean, I was thinking of design in the beginning of this because, you know, that's, that's really what we did for like the first 15 years. I just did all ALID projects until the last two years where I jumped into more product development role. So I'm actually going to answer this as a product developer. Cool. Instead of an interior design project. At first, I was going to say anything in Texas is a yes for me because all of our Texas projects have been so fun.

28:11Whenever we get a call in from Texas, I'm like, yes, yes, again. I just, they love a lifestyle and we just, we get to do really, really great fun. We get to do fun work for everybody wherever they are, but there's something happening in Texas where they just love a lifestyle. But I, When I think of a dream project, I think a collaboration with a big brand would be really, really fun. And we've kind of been in talks with different folks. And for me, at this stage in the game, and after actually talking with a lot of people that have collaborated with different brands, at market even, I've asked them how it's gone.

28:46And some people would report back that it's like the Hunger Games. It's not very easy working with these folks. And I've been like, okay, I don't want that experience. I really want this to be a full body yes for me if I'm doing it because we do get to product development as a part of our algorithm is part of our bio rhythm. Like we just, we are always constantly doing it and we design a lot. And so we're in the practice of doing it. And I would just want to make sure that with doing it with a team that we felt really akin, you know what I mean that there was a kismet to it so i i guess my dream project would be a collaboration so we'll see what comes out of the future but i wanted to be really really right so do you mean like a designer working with alice lane to kind of like i do a collection with them i think alice lane working with a much bigger brand oh okay where we are the designer okay if you if you could work with a designer so i'm just adding another question here sorry ryan what designer would you like to like Alice Lane by whoever and do a line with that designer for Alice Lane?

29:53Oh, I don't, I don't know. That's it. Do you have one in mind? I don't, but I just, you talking about that, I was like, wow, that would be super fun to like bring someone into our circle and like work with them in that way and do it the way they do. I do feel like it's all about collabs right now. Like I love seeing just different shoe collabs with this designer with, you know, with Nike or this designer. I was just, you know, looking at things last night for my girls. And there was, I forget the designer's name that did a little collab with J.Crew and it's like their take on this brand. And so I think the collabs are so fun.

30:26We saw Skims do something with Nike earlier this year. We also just barely saw a major, major just disruption amongst the big fashion houses. And yeah, Chanel just got a new creative director uh yeah Louboutin um Pharrell's doing an amazing job right I'm so yeah it's so great we saw um Jonathan Anderson leave Louave and now he's over at Dior he just won a fashion award it was announced yesterday and so you're seeing these creative directors take on new new houses and what they're doing within the houses with their DNA and it's lighting my fire and I feel like I'm just I'm just like warming my fingers and toes just watching all of this great creative work coming down the runway.