In short
Sue Hall shares the design and space-planning process for her boys’ room makeover—moving from a queen bed setup to two twin “big boy” beds, adding storage, and using color, window treatments, and layout tricks to make a small 12x12 (approx.) room feel bigger.
Guest backgrounds
The episode is hosted by Dear Alice (Alice Lane Home). Sue Hall is the remodeler/designer. Other speakers include Jessica Bennett and “Jess” (co-host/designer voice). Sue’s 80-year-old mother (“Provo grandma”) sewed the custom Roman shades.
Key claims
Kids rooms should feel familiar across moves; choose pieces that “migrate” and harmonize; pull furniture slightly off walls for usability; ceiling-height window treatments and tall shelving visually expand small rooms.
Notable examples
Sherwin-Williams “Irises” wall color with “Yukon Sky” ceiling; Schumacher geometric fabric Roman shades; custom Roman shades made from 1950s book fabric; Sussex rug (8x10); Miles nightstand between twins; new Mitzi etagere shelving; a Marlowe bed with softened silhouette; keeping a jaguar artwork and lamp from the nursery.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChildhood Room Memories
2:55 to 5:08
Explore personal childhood room experiences and design influences.
“So since we're talking about your kids' room, I want to know about your guys' childhood rooms.”
The Journey of Designing a Kids' Room
5:08 to 9:16
Follow the transformation of a room for two growing boys with practical storage.
“And then you would bookmatch them on top of each other while it sort of cured and got extra gooey.”
Space Planning and Functional Design
9:16 to 14:00
Learn about effective space planning and functional design for kids' rooms.
Designing the Kids' Room: A Stylish Foundation
14:00 to 14:59
Learn about the choice of furniture and rugs for a boys' room makeover.
“And specifically, I've been crushing on the Sussex rug for so long since we introduced it.”
Incorporating Personal Touches and Practicality
15:00 to 17:15
Discover how to blend function with style by displaying kids' collections.
“We have the big nightstand with just like one shared lamp in between and then a bookcase.”
Maximizing Space with Smart Design Choices
17:16 to 18:18
Explore tricks to make a small room feel larger through design elements.
“I actually started planning my evenings around them.”
Choosing the Right Bed: A Key Element
18:37 to 20:48
Understand the importance of selecting the appropriate bed for a small room.
“We have, again, I think one thing, too, that helped with this room being a small rectangle is I was crushing so hard on our bed, our Marlo, right?”
The Power of Color and Textiles in Design
20:49 to 23:58
Learn how color choices and window treatments can transform a space.
Creating a Harmonious Design Across Spaces
23:59 to 26:35
Explore how to maintain a cohesive design as kids grow and rooms change.
“And those of you that are curious, if you're watching this, these are Suze's paint colors.”
Embracing the Home's Character in Design
26:36 to 28:00
Discover how to incorporate the unique history of a home into modern design.
“And I have to say the white shelf up against a wall color, this was like such a beautiful move.”
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Designing a Whimsical Kids' Room
28:00 to 32:36
Learn about practical and whimsical design tips for kids' rooms.
“or emergency remodel or anything like that.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Things throughout your house should be able to migrate from one room to the next and get along because you chose them. There's nothing more cute than two twin beds. A stack of twin. When we go to market, whenever we go through like Julian Chichester or any of them, they just have two stacked beds. You're just like, oh, that's how I'm gonna have another kid. This is so good. I love it so much. This is we're talking about your kids room. I want to know about your guys's childhood rooms. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Dear Alice. Today, we have a very personal episode. We are having Sue Hall take the helm.
0:34She recently did a remodel in a very cute, intimate space in her home. And we are going to have her take us on the journey of her boy's room. She was finally ready to graduate her two youngest out of cribs and into their big boy beds. And she switched rooms with your older boy and made a really darling twin boy bedroom in there. And we're so excited to share this episode with you and the journey that she took. It's so personal. She's going to share how she chose paint colors, how she chose the silhouettes and the pieces and the room arrangement. And it was all so thoughtful. And there's so many great takeaways.
1:13And I know a lot of you are working on projects and love design. So you're going to love this episode. So if you can tune in, watch on Spotify or check it out on YouTube because it's full of all the juicy visuals, including sketches by Sue and a really great journey. Also her 80 year old mother Provo grandma made the draperies in this room. They're custom Roman shades and we even have video of that. So you're definitely going to want to tune in. But first I wanted to tell you guys it's September 18th and that means we are smack dab in the middle of our very best sale of the whole year. And this is the best time to buy.
1:51So start your engines. It's happening. And I just wanted to make sure all of you guys knew about it that was tuning in. I know our podcast is called Dear Alice, but our store is called Alice Lane Home. So check us out on Instagram at Alice Lane Home and check us out online because everything there, every single vendor participates. So whatever it is that you need for your home, if it's chandeliers, lamps, if it's a new rug, new bed, bedding, sheets, anything, any accessory, any accent, we put the entire site-wide sale on. And then the things that we're manufacturing as well are as low as 25 % off.
2:26So go get yourself something really nice. It's a really great time to buy. And then I also wanted to say to those of you that are professional designers, there's a great trade program for you in store with exclusive discounts, extra help, and access to hundreds of our vendors. And you can just get online. Tell them where it's at, Corey. So go to our website, alicelanehome.com, and then go to the design services tab, and then fill out the to the trade form, and one of our designers will go back you. Yes, that's perfect. Okay, let's get into it. All right. So since we're talking about your kids' room, I want to know about your guys' childhood rooms.
3:03Like, you know, when you started to kind of like, I don't know, add things to it to kind of express your individuality. I'll tell you what, I remember going with my mom. I had to be elementary school. I don't even think got his middle school age yet and wallpaper was huge so i was born in 1975 so i'll bet you the year was like mid to mid 80s okay 87 let's just call it 1987 we went up to wallpaper warehouse in the university mall i think mom or maybe it was a strip mall in provo utah we drove all the way up north two hours in our car and we would look through the wallpaper books and back then And the wallpaper books were set up in large pages.
3:49And then they would have like a middle border running through it. Of course. So what we did in my childhood bedroom when I got to help choose was we did a lower wallpaper on the bottom. And usually chose something dark. Like maybe it was a dark ground of like navy blue with a stripe. And then you would do like a floral on top. And then the border in the middle would look like some type of molding. Yeah. It was just wallpaper. It was flat. Wallpaper molding. Yeah. wallpaper molding. You could even do a wallpaper crown molding. Oh, I don't think we did the crown, but I know we did the lower and the upper.
4:25That's right. And then we did the middle, um, belt line going around the room. And I feel like it was, um, I feel like it was a Navy blue ground on the bottom one. And I think it was a white ground on top with floral. And then I can't remember what the stripe was in the middle, but I'm sure it was classy. yeah super cool very 87 yeah navy navy has been in your blood for a long time everyone jessica bennett's one of her favorite colors navy it's part of our brand color yeah it's not super original i know but i just love it i can't help it it's you i'm just drawn to it i'm also embarrassed to say i'm currently driving a navy car no i completely od'd on it but it started young and um it was just so um it's like such a core memory for me when i think about designing my bedroom with my mom and her trusting me to help make these decisions and like guiding those decisions with me and she even wallpapered it guys back in the days i love that you would get a wallpaper trough yeah you'd get the tools and supplies there and then you'd have the trough sitting in your bathtub and then you would reverse roll the papers yeah you can feel it right yeah And then you would soak them in there for a little bit and let them get good and sticky.
5:38And then you'd pull them out. And then you would bookmatch them on top of each other while it sort of cured and got extra gooey. And then you would put it on the wall. And then you'd use the tools to sort of scrape and trim. And I feel like my mom and dad, somebody was on a ladder and they were helping each other. And there's usually a little bit of bickering involved because it was quite, it was like doing surgery, right? Yeah. There's a lot involved in it. But even that, I was a part of that. That's awesome. In making my sister and I lived in this bedroom together. Carl, were you with us? I feel like I couldn't have just done this alone with mom.
6:09I feel like we all went together. But it was just so fun to get to. And I was so proud of it when it was done. Oh, yeah. I bet you were just like favorite space in the house. Totally. Yeah. And then you'd have to go show your rooms to reveal. You'd have the room closed. Like, wait till you see. And you open the door and the smell of wallpaper paste walks out. Yes. And you're like, wow. All the off-gassing is when I hit the door. Wow, it smells brand new in here. how about you sue do you remember anything about your childhood bedroom did you get to choose it in california i shared a room with my sister and she's eight years older than me so i had like i just had barbies everywhere she was very organized katie katie the cleaning lady and i just had so many barbies i loved barbies i had all the accoutrements for every barbie thing um so i was just messing we're the same person and i'm messy jesse yeah i need an acronym I need to listen to your name.
7:00Okay. But then I think the first time was when we moved up to Provo, like in my junior high or in Utah, right? We moved from California to Provo. But I remember before, or like one of our trips back to California, we had already lived in Utah. I had my own room. My sister's in college. Like I'm like an only child right now. And we go back to California. We go to the promenade in Santa Monica. And I remember going to an Urban Outfitter. Like it was the only Urban Outfitter that I ever like had heard of. It was probably one of the first ones. and I remember getting a beaded curtain, like a colored beaded curtain, and my mom let me do it, and I remember there was this Rastafari bishop on the street of the promenade having incense, and my brother had incense, and I'm like, that's cool.
7:44I should burn incense, too, so I remember getting incense, and I just became this little hippie child, and I just loved all the colors which again has never um left you know so i like my mom like letting me just like kind of just like have my walkabout on the promenade and get incense from the rastafari bishop and get the beaded curtains and get all the glow-in-the-dark stars you guys remember i love that i remember getting like just hundreds of glow-in-the-dark stars and piercing the top of them with a hole taking my dad's fishing wire tying a knot to that tying the other end to a nail nailing them to my ceiling the popcorn ceiling yeah you did they all were just like hanging just like everywhere i know and then i like slept on a hammock interior design interior design y 'all like love it i know and i just burned him incense like i like like i have like i had a riff with the world or something like what a little suzanne have to get up you had to ground yourself yeah yeah it's true that's hilarious yeah is that mid 90s probably yeah yeah sure yeah that was probably like 90 95 94 95 i that yeah that's when i remember experiencing incense for the first time i experienced the la riots like in california we saw the fires that's why she needed all of this uh-huh yes there's so much going on in the world yeah she's very yeah i love it that's amazing okay yeah that's hilarious let's get into okay this kid's room now okay okay so we're gonna talk like just said we're gonna talk about this like transformation so i have three kids i have another 10 5 and 3 um and my 10 year old nolan he has a queen bed and he had the blue room and when my two little ones were in oh yes here they are here's little there they are aren't they cute so that's nolan and manolo and louie and nolan has his own big boy room here it is and he when we moved into this house we painted it this really pretty blue because he loved cat boy so it's kind of fun when you um are doing your kids rooms to try and like figure out what is it that makes them pulse you know what's what's the tick that like will get you their buy-in so like everybody wins tie it to something that they love something that you love he loved cat boy and i was just like we're gonna paint your room blue it's gonna be awesome i get to pick it but it's blue like cat boy mom's choice my filter but then you kind of get their buy-in and so it was his room for you know the last like five years since we moved into this home we painted it this blue and it was awesome it was great and then I had not one kid but two children during the pandemic and they were in this cute little nursery next door which I painted green and so after I had these two little boys they're really close in age to each other they just started to outgrow the crib y 'all and it was time that we finally had to like figure I had to do start doing some space planning and figuring out okay like if I no one doesn't want to give up his queen bed like like so I moved that one to the green room and I'm like I need to move both of the little boys to like big boy beds from the crib and the pack and play and so Jess and I started like kind of going back and forth I'm like I think I need twin beds I think I need two little twin beds and you guys there's nothing more cute than two twin beds a stack between when we go to market whenever we go through like julian to tester or any of them they just have two stacked beds you're just like oh that's how i'm gonna have another kid this is so good like i love it so much there's nothing more charming you can't just have a one lonely twin bed in a room you gotta get a second one i know i feel so like um that's why they're called twins peter pan mary poppins about it like you just like want to see like all the row of all the children at once anyway there's there's something so cute about that um but yeah so it just it came time then just like okay we have to switch the boys like they were just like outgrowing the crib and everything and so I started putting it on on CAD and one of the biggest problems and like things that you're trying to solve for um when you don't have a huge space is just like really looking at like what are the functions that you need to have I need them both to be able to grow into this like bigger bed I need storage like these kids have a lot a lot of like books, shoes, you know, just.
11:56Well, it's two of them too. Two of them. Two of them. Yeah. Two of them. And they're busy. And also since you, since you moved into a 1971 home during the pandemic, the closets were just smaller back then. I think they really relied on the fact that people had bedroom dressers. And so they weren't walk-in closets like are in homes today. So you not only have one small closet that two boys need to share, right? You've got all of their stuff. So yeah, things were just different today than then so you had to try and figure out storage for this space for all of their stuff yeah because I yeah I wanted them to have like enough storage for like all just all their clothes in general there's so many and then just like again just the we have toys down in the basement like we have a playroom but like just the things like the books and like things that like you want to grab to be able to read to them at night and you don't want to schlep downstairs to grab that so just trying to accommodate for all those things there's just there's certain functions that like I needed to have happen and you also want a space for them to just like play even though this isn't their primary playroom you just want spaces for them they're gonna like roll off the bed they're gonna like tumble and they're gonna wrestle and do all those things and so it was really just trying to figure this out on on plan like plan view how am I gonna get all this without shoving everything through the very corners of the room which kind of did but I pulled it out a little bit so what you're seeing on screen right now is again when we start with anything we usually go to like the floor plan and try and figure out what are my functions and so here i'm showing two twin beds they're pulled a little bit off the wall just so it's easier to make um i don't want it totally against the wall just because that makes that's a nightmare um but again just to allow like optimizing i remember when i showed you you're just like maybe we could pull those in let's do a smaller nightstand and pull those in a little bit because i think that's what we would normally do but just like understanding just like the thing needed space to sit and play with their toys yeah yeah build legos or whatnot so exactly yeah so we actually opted for the largest widest nightstand that we make and um you use the miles nightstand in between the two twin beds which brought in that really deep dark almost um coffee colored wood that looked really handsome like a pair of dress shoes i think for a boy which is really fun yeah So, and then I wanted to have a rug.
14:18Yeah. And specifically, I've been crushing on the Sussex rug for so long since we introduced it. And I'm like, that's such a handsome rug for like little men, you know, to like grow up into. And so I was just like, Jess, I think I need to use a Sussex rug. So I had all these like kind of like ideas and thoughts of just like product that we make that I've fallen in love with. And so I'm like, if I do the Sussex rug and just kind of like stretch it from side to side, I can do like the biggest size I can get, which I believe was the eight by 10 in this space. And I do two little twins with the miles in between them.
14:50I would have all this space in between to put like a little poof, like a little nightstand or not a nightstand, but like a little ottoman for us to like just play with. And we usually have, like I have lots of little accent chairs and stuff, but anyway, just figuring it all out. This is kind of what we came up with. So we have the two twins. We have the big nightstand with just like one shared lamp in between and then a bookcase. Intermitcy. Intermitcy. Intermitcy, guys. The brand new Etagere. It's a bookshelf. I think we've told you guys before, Etagere is just a fancy name. It means it's an open shelf on all four sides, which allows you to display things.
15:25And I think for Sue, your boys have these cute collections of Legos that they've built and books and collections that they've had. And even the bottom two shelves, I think you ended up putting shoes on, which is so cute. So the stuff at eye level is like the things that they're really proud of. And then the stuff on the bottom is this utilitarian stuff that they can take on and off every single day. They're all so cute. And their clothes are cute. You know what I mean? Like kids clothes and shoes are darling. So cute. So why shouldn't they get that fancy closet moment of having, of having shoes on a shelf, you know, and not just on the ground of their closet.
15:58It's, it's so cute the way that you ended up displaying, displaying this. And I will say, I'm like, however tall you, I'm like, cause I'm only eight foot ceilings. And so that Mitzi gives so much, it's kind of like when you like take your window treatment all the way to the top of the ceiling right and just how it elongates you've walked in there yeah like that mitzi totally makes my ceilings the mitzi made it feel tall so tall and your roman shades you went all the way to the ceiling make it also feel tall you would not guess it's eight foot ceilings i also wanted to say just for those of you listening um the room size that suez is in let's just call it a 12 by 12 yeah it's like 12 by 11 and a half but that's a very very small bedroom and it's a normal size for for homes that were built in the 70s and 80s so this is um This is a cozy space, but doing a few space expanding tricks, like having a huge rug in there, right?
16:49Made the room feel really big and that really little pattern felt space expanding. I also feel like you did a really cool thing on the window treatments with another small pattern. They gave that sort of illusion of something bigger, the tall shelf, the tall window treatments. And you did a tall lamp in front of the window, which really stretched your eye too. I know. Cozy Earth's pajamas and blankets are so soft and breathable and good looking. I actually started planning my evenings around them. Right when I get home from work, I'm jumping in my bamboo stretch knit pajamas and I'm running for that bubble cuddle blanket.
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18:39We have, again, I think one thing, too, that helped with this room being a small rectangle is I was crushing so hard on our bed, our Marlo, right? Marlo bed. Marlo bed. And we had it in the queen. And you guys know I love green. I love green. And therefore, my children will love green, too. I know. But just really fast to just try and, like, migrate. Like they came from like this cute little green nursery, which had this like painting of this jaguar on the wall. And I knew I want to bring that with them. I think there's something to about when you're switching kids rooms. If you can keep some of the things the same, even though the space is going to be different, they're going to have a tough time at the beginning just because it's new.
19:22But if you can keep some things the same so that they have something familiar around them, I think that's really, really important. It is a great point. And so over, yeah, right here on the screen over the crib is this like original jaguar with this really cool gold frame. So I knew I want to keep that with them. And I knew I want to keep this lamp. Again, it's whimsical. It's animals. I've had this for a really, really long time. And I'm like, if I can keep a couple of these key pieces with them, they'll feel like they're home. So that's a great tip. And I, so I started before anything, cause I'm like, am I going to have to repaint the room?
19:55It was Catboy for Nolan. limit i can have to like paint it green you know and swap these guys and i just i took that painting and i just put it on the blue wall and i was just like that's magic and you want to know why it's magic it's just like greens blues they're all the colors i see when i look out my window fun little thing about this room too and where nolan's at like this when we bought the house we have a barn in the back and he has the cutest straight shot of the barn um so we'll get to that later but anyway also say is that I didn't have to repaint the room a different color because everything got along and I when I put that painting there I was just like okay if this screen looks good on this blue wall the Marlowe's gonna look awesome awesome on this blue wall and the thing I was also really excited about the Marlowe is that the headboard isn't crazy tall again for my but it was like a perfect height and I like that it wasn't a rectangle I like that it kind of smiles and dips in the bottom just because you're in a small rectangular room so any we know anytime that you can add just like softness like that it just helps to just like kind of blur the lines and not make it feel like a limited like small box right and I knew that I would have to peekaboo into that window just to give myself that open play area and I'm just so happy with how it turned out a couple other things that we did just mentioned on that roman I've crushed on the Schumacher fabric for the longest time it's so so cute here's a little video showing just kind of like in the development when i was like i had so many fabrics i was playing with i'm like what should i do should i add more should i do solid should i do you know something more botanical or something um i'm just like there's something just so handsome when you have like these structured prints and you layer them with each other and stripes and boxes and it feels kind of like a minecraft yeah you know which they're also into and legos and all the things and so i'm like okay this is going to be a i showed my my mom is an amazing seamstress she she sewed my wedding dress like she's wow like she's incredible and she's 80 you guys pro grandma there she is on the floor just on the floor so you guys and this fabric my friend told me she's like oh my gosh it looks like this like famous ozark um quilt but it's a geometric and like talk to any wallpaper hanger that has to like hang a stripe like they want to shoot you um and sweet provo grandma she took this like geometric pattern and centered all those blocks like on the window she's incredible so but bless her but what i have to say is that when it was nolan's room and it was just you know just the blue i didn't have romans i didn't have window treatments up because it was just like just one of those things that i think as parents it kind of just goes to the back of the mind and you're just like okay that's expensive they're boys they'll just rip it down anyway but i knew that like i'm like oh we're gonna do this i'm like let's do it and i really wanted to kind of tie that blew back in a textile and so you guys it is so crazy the power of a window treatment yeah and just like pulling that sucker up to the ceiling look how much taller yeah that room looks with the roman going all the way to the ceiling yeah versus it feeling squatty because i mean they didn't in the 70s they didn't do big one i mean like they're fine for the size of the room but like they're not going to like they would now nowadays um so my mom the saint that she is she agreed to make these um romans for me and you guys i should ryan do like she used like books from like the 1950s you guys i love her so much like how cute she is here she is on her bed just like sewing these darling romans for my kids oh i just love i don't think i'll ever be able to take them off why am i gonna cry so cute oh and she used these anyway i just have to i'm like she's like do you want to borrow my books when you guys talk about it i'm like yes i do mom anyway she used like books from the 1950s to like sew these again still works yeah the original google like little book markers and everything like that so i just i love these window treatments because i think of her and they saw her like install it so it's so cute so cute anyway so i love i love that schumacher fabric i love that they go to the ceiling and just like soften everything in that room i think that's what it also did is it just soften the edge on everything.
24:04And those of you that are curious, if you're watching this, these are Suze's paint colors. Your wall color, Su, do you want to tell them what that is called? Yeah, it's called irises and this is a Sherwin-William colors. And so I did, and again, this is again color drenching. We painted this probably like five years ago. And at the time I did, you know how we've talked about how you can take, you know, the same color, you can lighten it a little bit, like just go the the one ring rung up on that paint strip i did do that in here just to kind of play with it and see how it works and so we did the walls and irises we did the ceiling and yukon sky and then i did my trim and door and a semi-gloss um in the amethyst amethyst shadow um i tell you what that ceiling you can't really like you can go back to the picture you can't really tell that i changed the color so it's kind of a waste of a paint change yeah um so just know that when you hit that ceiling like crazy that you have to like you have to like line it up a lot there you can kind of not really you really can't I think the shadows too it's just hard to tell but I just thought they might love to know the color because it really is so soothing yeah like I feel like it feels like you just took a melatonin it's just so calming for the boys and so pretty I think one of the things that was really cute that Suze mentioned when we went over there to shoot the room was she was like it's just like the mountains it's like this purpley blue with green trees and of course they're all going to get along together yep I just love this pairing and the blue almost has a dot of periwinkle to it or purple which I noticed I don't know people's eyes pick up on that up because I'm like every time even like when we're in the design center pulling things I always like gravitate my eyeballs love a little bit of that violet me too in the blue yeah it's It's just a little obscure.
25:46It's not so on the nose. It feels a little more special. And it's funny that you made this decision five years ago, and then you make the drapery decision today. Yeah. And it's just, like, so perfect. This room, just, like, the way it came together with all your loves, of course you're going to love it. It's all the things that you love. Yeah. That cute little whale that we bought at an art show, like, a decade ago. This is also another really fun note that, like, they're your kids. they're gonna probably at some point they're probably gonna have spider-man sheets or something um but things throughout your house should be able to migrate from one room to the next and get along because you chose them you know like whether it was just you solely or with like your partner or your kids all those decisions i think should live harmoniously together and it's not like a perfect like formula like these are these are decisions that have just evolved over time that all come together really harmoniously and it feels right because it feels like us and that is timeless design yeah yeah is that like art that's on the left right there that was that in nolan's like when it was when he was in there like yeah that's a piece that i bought for tom like on his 30th birthday because he loves that sort of donkeys and all the press and stuff um but then it sat above like the changing table when nolan was a baby in the attic and then it migrated to this room and then like I kept it in here just because I loved it with the paint color um and then just like the collections of little paintings you find like little walls and things are kind of opened up as you rearrange furniture you can do interesting stacks like this just to kind of balance out the art in your room so and guys let's just let's talk about the mitzi real quick you can see it here the mitzi etiger is was a new piece that we launched during house candy it is a wood shelf with these radius top and then toward the bottom you get these radius shapes again, which sort of soften it.
27:36And I have to say the white shelf up against a wall color, this was like such a beautiful move. It's clean. It's really slim. I think it's only 14 inches deep, but it holds all the treasures. It doesn't take up much room of the floor print, but it really stretched the ceiling and brought the soft shapes of the Marlowe bed. It feels vintage too. Those radius corners, like really, I feel like anytime that we've had a flood or emergency remodel or anything like that. It's been important to me to be like, hey, this house is from the 1970s. I'm not tearing it down. We're trying to embrace what it is.
28:10And anytime you can add those little nods back to just the architecture and just the history of the house, I think just so, it's one of those just unidentifiable things that make it feel right. You know, like it's not, I'm not yelling like this home was built in the 1970s, but hopefully these like little winks kind of like go back to that era you know in a fresh way in our way and i just i love how much space there is on that shelf it's amazing like all their collections just look so intentional and cute and pulled together and even their shoes are adorable honestly cute yeah they're so cute and that little toadstool guys that little mushroom ottoman in the tiger oh gosh in the aniger what a transformation lucky ducks it's crazy that this is obviously the same room that you once had the queen bed in and it felt cozy and very individual you know both ways but i have to say like gosh window treatments for the win in here and i just really love oh go ahead i was saying color blocking like the neutral bed i mean it's cute yeah don't get me wrong but when like you put the green against the blue yeah that is such an outfit such an outfit such an outfit oh sue bravo this turned out so cute thank you i love it they love it love it so a few things to um to just tell the listeners to when they're planning to do kids rooms space planning with function in mind yes right yep um and you needed to be able to not just make it comfortable and familiar by taking things from the old space into their new space.
29:48But also you wanted to have space to play so that they could really embrace this. I also thought a funny but really key note here was that you didn't just push the twin beds against the wall. You held them off like maybe four to six inches to help you easily make the bed or for your kids to be able to make their own beds, right? Which was really funny. Yeah. And I have to say, I think Miles' nightstand in between where it's a wider girth that gave you allowed you to push those further apart in this 12 foot room um also that little ledge to be able to display their their things at their eye level i think it's so cute they each have their own like shelf if they want to this great big huge pole i think feels like a toy in this space and those drawers can be almost like a second set of drawers like a dresser definitely are yeah that's what they act as um i was gonna say the nice thing about the miles too is that it's not sitting on the ground it has like a lift up we have a we have a floor vent right there too so that was also an important thing that i couldn't block and i'm like what nightstand do we have that like can like make sure the air can circulate and everything i'm not trapping it and the miles like one and i love it so much i'm like if it did any more i like just being when you're there live and you feel that the air can just kind of like peek under there it doesn't feel as like, I don't know, like, is crowded?
31:10Stale? No, just crowded, you know? Oh, okay, yeah. I think if things are just like sitting on the ground, it's just like that's the only space you have. But if you can peek a booth, there's light going through all the way to a wall, it expands your eye and it makes it feel larger. Yeah. So, and that same thing with the ediger and same thing with the beds. Like nothing's sitting completely through the ground so the air can kind of still circulate. Your eye can see under and through it. Yeah, I love that. The silhouettes in front of the windows, adding fun shapes. fun patterns for kids both on the rug and in the roman your space expanding tricks of pulling the the romans all the way to the ceiling the mitzi all the way to the ceiling having room to display their favorite things their familiar things um blackouts on the roman to help them sleep better and um just yeah a place for everything and everything in its place yeah and i think whimsy look at that lamp too you know just as far as there's nothing you don't have to be so serious it's a kid's room that makes it feel yeah that makes it feel like a kid's room too it's like it's not taking itself too seriously but yeah yeah and i bought myself that lamp before i even had kids you know we're at the store but anyway again these things like it's fun to see how they i don't know regenerate themselves in different locations and and what it does for the room because i'm like it looks different in here than it did in the last room buy cool stuff buy cool stuff y 'all yeah yeah i love it so good well thanks so much sue for sharing this with everybody i know it's been a really personal journey from working with your mom on the draperies and considering your boys and changing your whole house around i think it was totally worth it and yeah we're just so so happy you shared this all with with all of us today so yeah yeah i'm glad you wanted to hear it of course of course you know and i love going in and making their beds someday they will and hopefully they're watching mom and being like oh wow that really does make me feel better through my days that my bed's made yeah but hopefully they see like there's a pride in space you know and like identifying with this space i hope that that's something they hold on to they will yeah definitely so good you guys thanks so much for listening and um don't forget it's the very best sale go get yourself something nice it's the best time of the year to buy um so it's at alicelanehome.com and give us a follow on at alicelanehome on Instagram and at alicelaneinteriors also on Instagram.
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This week on Dear Alice, we're taking you inside one of our favorite recent projects—Suz’s kids’ room makeover! Tune in as we break down the creative process behind this charming, whimsical space that blends imagination with function. From playful color palettes to clever storage solutions, we’re sharing all the design decisions that made this room a dream come true for both kids and parents.
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