Listener Q&A: 7 Design Rules to Break

11:56Lindsey Lane:I was going to say it teaches, I have little kids, but it teaches them what is a priority. Like in the morning you make your bed. Yeah. You know, you take care of your things. You show up, you put on your cologne, you wear deodorant suns and you go to school, you're a hall. Darn it, get there. So yeah, I love that. And you know, at whatever level you're at too, whether you have$200 ,000, whether you have$10 ,000 to invest in your home, whatever you do, you're going to just like love it so much because you're going to dig deep and create something beautiful. And that is spiritual.

12:26Alice Lane:Great question, Aish. Thank you.

12:28Lindsey Lane:Send in more. For real. Catch you next time. The next one comes from Crystal and she asks, I know how we all feel about the dreaded accent wall, but how do we feel about venetian plaster on one wall and then a color drench on the remaining others including ceiling i want to do something funky in my home office and i just love the look slash texture of the venetian plaster do i do it on one wall or all of them ceiling too much any thoughts would be appreciated if you can you do it on all of them you do it on all the walls and you do it on the ceiling i will tell you for an example we did a home with a great client she We wanted the wall to be dark, black, like our favorite hotel room in Capri.

13:09Lindsey Lane:We specified to do it in plaster. So moody. And when you do get that up over the ceiling, I think the ceiling is the most magical part of it. Because you get to feel like you're just like cocooned. You're enveloped in it completely. When I went to the site, they decided to cut costs. And they just did the Venetian plaster on the walls. No ceiling in the ceilings pitch. And they went to a paint. And I was just like, bummer. That could have been great. You spend all that money and all I can see is where those two finishes meet. And it's disappointing. It really was like such a bummer. I know that we're both big advocates for just, if you can't afford to do the whole thing, do the ceiling.

13:43Lindsey Lane:That's the accent wall. Don't do just one wall on the vertical plane. Go hit the ceiling. And that's what we did in our Odessa, our Desert Oaks project in the pantry. We had specified it to be coved. And I think we were just going to do a neutral. At the very end, we called it an audible and I'm like, that should be a more interesting color. I want my eye to know that that's plastered and I want it to see the cove. And so by doing that little architectural detail and then plastering it, we highlighted it and we like gave everybody something to look at. And that was in an accessory kitchen, a pantry that's utility, but it felt special all of a sudden.

14:21Lindsey Lane:And we have a couple of pictures here to show you because it's one of my favorite things. and you're in, again, this kind of blue collar community and you feel this glossy level of denim or something. It was, it's such a cool color that I think everybody would feel comfortable in. It's what we have, you know, we wear this color. We wear denim every day. And I just, I love it. So definitely hit your ceiling if you can't do the whole room.

14:43Alice Lane:And if you guys are tuning in and you're watching this and you can see these images, there's something magical about plaster. Probably most of you know this. If you don't, the more that they burnish the plaster, the glossier it gets. So you can get that beautiful matte ethereal plaster look as you picture plaster. Here in the photo, you can see the light reflecting in from the window. And you can see some of the glossiness because this was burnished. And there's this really beautiful sort of difference in texture between the satin of the paint cabinets and then the glossiness of the ceiling plus the color and the different finishes.

15:15Alice Lane:I don't want to see this pantry without that ceiling. It is the big move. Like this is such a feeling in here. Crystal, definitely plaster your ceiling. I think this will give you a lot of confidence that if you're only going to do one wall, it's the fifth wall that you're going to do.

15:32Lindsey Lane:Awesome. Great advice. Would you, if you're going to color drench, do the same color, you know, would you do the walls the same color that you do the plaster or just let the plaster be its own thing on the ceiling?

15:43Alice Lane:So he's saying like in this room, if you have a blue plastered ceiling, would you take, obviously this is a kitchen, so all the walls are cabinets. Would you take blue down onto the walls in plaster as well? Or you're saying in paint?

15:55Lindsey Lane:Well, yeah, Crystal's question was just like, she was going to do Venetian plaster on one wall. So if that wall became the ceiling and then color drenched the rest, would you have that match the same color of the ceiling? I think for a whole room experience, and I can only do one, like, yeah, you're going to go high glass, burnish the ceiling. And then I would take either that same, because again, as we know, the ceiling, even if it's all the same paint color base, is the paint color for everywhere. plaster this is what you're going to base your plaster finish on this color it's going to look different on the ceiling so whether it stays the same color you're still going to feel the difference and yeah I for sure want to see that on the walls and the ceiling and it does if you do want to kind of play the color blocking game and do like a lighter blue or a darker blue or kind of play with it with the ceiling playing in your walls I think that that's also really fun too because we know it's going to feel like a different finish or you know it's going to feel more flat on your walls and high gloss on plastered on your ceiling.

16:48Lindsey Lane:And so I might actually call attention to that and change the color.

16:52Alice Lane:I agree with what you're saying because having, let's just say that you give your plaster guy a Sherwin-Williams color. I wouldn't mix that same Sherwin-Williams color for the walls. I would do something that's a different shade or a different color block because they're not both plaster. And it will feel like that initial bedroom you were just talking about, the Black Boutique Hotel, where you see in the corner that you didn't go for it. Then the walls are plaster and then the ceiling is flat. So you have to make it feel really intentional and do a different shade of, you know, blue in this case that we're talking about.

17:28Alice Lane:And then that's why you switched it. I think you got to make a reason why.

17:32Lindsey Lane:Yeah. I mean, we see that all the time in fashion right now with the color blocking, you know, whether it's two different colors or just different versions of the same color. And it's so cool. I love that. It's so so so cool so definitely like play that up I think it's a real fashion move yes I just got a new comforter from cozy earth and it is my favorite new thing you know how much I love to get into my bed at the end of the day I am tired yes and their comforter like everything that they do is cool it's like a cloud and like when I put it on myself at the end of the day it's just like it's perfectly like regulating but the temperature for not only me but for Tom as well like it is the perfect weight and it looks so pretty.

18:11Lindsey Lane:The construction on it is perfect. The stitching is lovely. And I just, I cannot tell enough people about this and I want to give it to all my friends and family.

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19:11Lindsey Lane:Experience the craft behind the comfort and make every day feel intentional. The next question is from LT. They ask, is it worth refinishing an existing door or is replacing it usually the better investment? Corey, I don't know. Yes.

19:25Alice Lane:You guys are so lucky. I don't know if you know this about Corey Place, but he worked in a door shop for how many years?

19:31Lindsey Lane:Nine. Nine years. Yeah, I built custom doors.

19:34Alice Lane:Corey, will you help us answer this question?

19:36Lindsey Lane:Definitely. I'm going to try to take my bias out of this, but this is, if you're going to consider refinishing your door, like let's say your house, for instance, you lived in it for seven years before you refinished it. Yeah. You just have to know if I refinish this in seven years, it's going to look the same as it does now. If you want to do that and repaint it again, refinish it if you're cool with that.

19:56Alice Lane:If you like your door. Yes.

19:57Lindsey Lane:If you like your door.

19:58Alice Lane:I love my door.

20:00Lindsey Lane:So yeah, I think that's, yeah. And yours is facing the right direction. It's getting morning sun rather than all the evening sun and really doing a ton of damage. You have a good overhang.

20:09Alice Lane:Yeah.

20:09Lindsey Lane:So I think for you, it totally makes sense.

20:11Alice Lane:I am going to have to repaint it again, though. Like, I can already tell. It's been two summers and, yeah.

20:15Lindsey Lane:I mean, you just have to know, however it looks now, it's going to look like that again if you're just refinishing it. So if you're cool with that, I'd say do it. And if you love your door, by all means. But if you have my door that you inherited on a 1970s ranch, you're probably just going to replace it. I could refinish it, but I want a different door.

20:31Alice Lane:This is going to take us off path, but I have a question. Yeah. I don't know if your door is wood. I think it's fiberglass. It's solid wood. Oh, it is? Yeah, that sucker. I think that one is solid wood.

20:41Lindsey Lane:Totally, yeah.

20:42Alice Lane:So you could paint her door then?

20:45Lindsey Lane:Yeah. If you liked your door. You don't like your door. No, but you know what? Anyway, it's been fun. This is, again, you're going to edit the crap out of this one, guys. I'm sorry. Anyway, but it's taught me a lot of things that I do want. I love having, they had textured glass in there, And I love the reflections when light does hit that onto the wall inside.

21:04Alice Lane:And I think you need that little window.

21:06Lindsey Lane:You do.

21:07Alice Lane:Yeah.

21:07Lindsey Lane:You do.

21:08Alice Lane:So I'm like, whatever door I end up having, I probably will pay homage to the 70s for sure.

21:12Lindsey Lane:I will have textured glass.

21:14Alice Lane:You're going to go full Palm Springs on your front door. It's going to be such a mood.

21:18Lindsey Lane:We're taking it Parker Hotel right there. The other wrinkle to this is that if you replace your door with the same material, you know, like it's an oak door. and you get to buy another oak door, again, you're going to have that same thing. Yeah. Same issue. Yeah. So if you want to replace and not have to paint it as often, I am a fan of the fiberglass door and then they make a composite jam. So it does really well against like the sun and all the elements. They used to just do fiberglass doors and then you'd still have like a wood frame and wood jam and brick mold and all of that. But then that all rots away and you got to like fix that.

21:55Lindsey Lane:Yeah.

21:56Alice Lane:I have so many questions for you.

21:58Lindsey Lane:Yeah.

21:58Alice Lane:Fiberglass door. So here's what I love in a front door. I want it to be really heavy. I want you to really feel like you're, you know, like it's the front door.

22:07Lindsey Lane:Yeah. I mean, it is. It's like that.

22:08Alice Lane:Is fiberglass heavy?

22:09Lindsey Lane:Yeah. Super heavy. And then I was picturing it being super lightweight.

22:13Alice Lane:No.

22:13Lindsey Lane:Yeah. It's heavy.

22:14Alice Lane:It's a heavy front door. How can you get a good look at a fiberglass?

22:19Lindsey Lane:I think so. Yeah. I mean, they have like standard ones that are.

22:21Alice Lane:And you can put any finish on it. You could do like a glossy anything.

22:25Lindsey Lane:Any paint. Yeah. It paints like.

22:26Alice Lane:And you can put any hardware on it.

22:28Lindsey Lane:Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It'll bore and rout like a wood door and everything.

22:32Alice Lane:So your best advice to all of us is go with a fiberglass door and not paint it. What do you do? You put a composite?

22:39Lindsey Lane:I mean, it'll take any finish, actually. You could lacquer it if you want to. They'll have to, like, you know, scuff it up a little bit, but it'll take any finish.

22:45Alice Lane:You don't have to refinish the door? Not as often.

22:48Lindsey Lane:Anything outside, you're going to have to at some point. But it's probably, instead of, if you're, like, really, your recommendation, someone's going to tell you every five years. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so for sure. This is more like 10 to 15 year finish.

23:00Alice Lane:That is really great advice. Do you have a favorite brand of fiberglass door if you're shopping to get a good looking style that feels like a custom door?

23:10Lindsey Lane:I don't. It's like I did custom doors. Yeah, I mean, I had mine where I used to work, CR doors. So I got mine from them. Yeah. And it was custom.

23:19Alice Lane:So you had a fiberglass custom door.

23:21Lindsey Lane:Yeah, yeah.

23:21Alice Lane:You can get a fiberglass custom door. That's fantastic.

23:24Lindsey Lane:So that's my preference. But if you're, you know, people love like wood doors. And so by all means, if that's your thing, I say do it. Yep. And then you get to pick a new color every five years. Exactly. Yeah.

23:37Alice Lane:Yeah. So back to LT, is it worth refinishing an existing door? Is replacing it usually the better investment? You would say, LT, if you're living with a wood door, it would be worth it for you to replace it with a fiberglass door and not have to refinish it as often.

23:53Lindsey Lane:Absolutely. Yeah.

23:54Alice Lane:And you can get all the style you want at a fiberglass store.

23:57Lindsey Lane:Yes. I don't like the wood grain on the fiberglass. So I would just go, no, yeah. If you want the wood grain, just do real wood. And then just be prepared to refinish it every five years. That's actually fantastic advice. And Corey knocks her under, he'll know that it's fiberglass. I'll be able to tell. That's for sure. Like a wood tile, guys. Don't go there. That's great. Okay. The next question is from KM. So many acronyms. I know. Come on. I love it. L-T-M-T-K-M. Okay. Love all these tips and rules you guys give every week, but that made me wonder if there are any rules you guys break for your homes.

24:33Alice Lane:So many.

24:33Lindsey Lane:Budget constraints, unfortunately, sometimes you just have to. We have designer budgets.

24:38Alice Lane:Yep. Yeah, we don't have our client's budget. Designer taste designer budget.

24:42Lindsey Lane:Yeah. It's creative.

24:43Alice Lane:I'll talk about a rule that I broke in my own home since we're talking about the fifth wall. I did an accent wall in my office 10 years ago. I used Dick Blick papers hand marbled on one back wall because I knew I was going to be putting these big brass shelves in front of it. And I wanted it to read like you opened an old first edition novel. And you know how they had the old marbled papers in that. I just knew it would be a beautiful texture behind all my piles of design books. I would tell everybody that they should not do an accent wall. But I knew what I was going to be doing with it. and Suzanne has said it feels like an art installation.

25:22Alice Lane:And so we can look the other way on it.

25:25Lindsey Lane:And every single other wall there, you have a massive opening looking into it. You have French doors and a set of windows and then you have your big arch window. So I'm just like, it really is the only important wall in that space. So I'm like that, yeah, definitely. I'm like, don't just go accent wall, you know, four solid walls. Don't do that.

25:42Alice Lane:But to KM's point, that is a rule that I broke. Sure did.

25:45Lindsey Lane:Broke it hard.

25:46Alice Lane:Yeah, I sure did. What are the rules? What are you breaking at your house? Oh, I know what you said yesterday. You, Suzanne, just barely decided to paint all her interior doors a color. Yeah. Coral.

25:59Lindsey Lane:F it up with some coral. That's awesome. And it's really fun. And so, yeah, a lot of times we're giving general advice to the general public. Yeah. Like, stay neutral on your doors because it's not something that you're going to want to redo every door in your house. But I broke that rule. Suzanne's an artist. Because I'm an artist and I have a lot of art and everything. And again, I plastered the whole place in white. My floors are white. My walls are white. My ceiling's white. So I'm like, I should have colored doors. You know, all my rooms that you go inside are colored. So Coral looks great with everything.

26:33Lindsey Lane:So yeah. So that was a rule that I broke.

26:36Alice Lane:And it's fantastic. It's paying back in such a great way. And it feels so you. I know. Because you're kind of a signature lip girl. I know you're a red lip, but it just kind of feels like you. I love Coral. I love it.

26:47Lindsey Lane:this makes me think i have a ton of rules that i break in my house but again some of them come from budget constraints and then i built my house five years ago so i've learned a lot since yes i've been on the dear alice podcast exactly i'm graduating soon this it makes me think of this i was taking i taught myself how to play bass guitar and then i started taking lessons when i started college and that was the first time i had like any formal training and i took it from a guy who's Scott Miller. So what's up, Scott, if you're listening, he's a great, great guy, great musician. And he was like, I next time write a piece.

27:20Lindsey Lane:These are these are the parameters. Come back with it. I showed him use my own creative license. Yeah. And I didn't stick within those parameters. And he said, it's really cool. Well, you did. But he's like, you got to learn all of the rules before you can break them. And so I think of that in design a lot. And I think your guys, both your guys' examples were you broke the rule, but you did it through like the lens of how to break it. And you were very thoughtful with doing so. So I think that's the most important thing. It's just not like, well, I broke the rule. Who cares? Everyone does it. That's not the sentiment.

27:54Lindsey Lane:It's like, I did it in this way because of X, Y, and Z. And that was the outcome. We knew it'd be successful. Yeah.

28:02Alice Lane:I think another rule that you broke in your home, Sue, you put your bed in front of a window. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it looks great. And it's all how you framed it. You'll have to tune in to see the rest of the story. So I don't want to give too much away. It looks so good. Just to KM's point is like, are there any rules we break in our own home? So those are a few. I'm sorry, Corey. Did I interrupt? Did you have a rule that you broke in your home?

28:22Lindsey Lane:That was, uh.

28:23Alice Lane:I do like what you're saying, though, is that you have to learn the rules to know how to break them.

28:28Lindsey Lane:Yes.

28:28Alice Lane:Yeah.

28:29Lindsey Lane:So in my front room, I did like a version of shiplap kind of. And I was doing it definitely after shiplap was like gone. you know I just saw some images that I really liked and so I just kind of created my own it wasn't shiplap that I went out and bought and it kind of tongue and grooves together I just did

28:45Alice Lane:like these huge wide oh yeah panels yeah I know that room I would say that maybe I don't know

28:50Lindsey Lane:that was something that I didn't think I would have done but then I saw that and I was like that's cool just make my own and do this so I kind of used my creative license in that sense and I will say that trend interpretations I know we're just like oh please don't do that we're so sick of the modern farmhouse. We're so sick of white shiplap. But if you look in all over England, you see shiplap, you see wood treatments. And so it's really just what version are you doing it? And does it feel like you? Yes. So, and I think that there's a case for most exceptions. Everything that we see on here, I guarantee you've made an exception to that rule on a job because it was the right thing to do.

29:21Lindsey Lane:Yeah. There's always room to break a rule. Definitely.

29:23Alice Lane:Fun conversation. Thanks, KM. I know.

29:26Lindsey Lane:That was great. Okay. The next question comes from Tracy. She asks, Design Hill, you are willing to die on. Mine is thanks to you guys. And that is rugs that are too small.

29:36Alice Lane:Yes, Tracy. Yes. Thank you.

29:39Lindsey Lane:I feel like you guys could write a book of Design Hills that you're willing to die on.

29:44Alice Lane:Yeah. Yeah.

29:45Lindsey Lane:That's a great question.

29:46Alice Lane:Yeah. In fact, Tracy, we just really did a photo shoot for a new upcoming collection and we had to use a too small rug during the shoot. We pulled in this vintage rug at the last minute just to make this little sitting area and I'm like oh man I hope nobody on the podcast calls me out for this and now I'm just fessing up to it.

30:04Lindsey Lane:It's wrecking rules.

30:05Alice Lane:We know. I know. Listen Tracy I know. I know. I know what I did and it looked great in the shoot so anyway yeah there's always there's always those things.

30:15Lindsey Lane:I would say living finishes is the hill that like yeah that is my mountain. I'm gonna die on that.

30:22Alice Lane:Define for the class what a living finish is.

30:24Lindsey Lane:A living finish is real marble. It's real courtside. It's real wood. It's real whatever. And just like the integrity. I want my home to have integrity. I want to have integrity. I don't like being with people that don't have integrity. Therefore, why would I hang out with wood tile? You ain't wood. You're tile.

30:44Alice Lane:Or porcelain floors pretending to be marble.

30:47Lindsey Lane:So even if your builder's just like, nope, the maintenance is going to be so much better on this one. It's going to withstand the flood in the basement. I would still do engineered wood floor in my basement. I would still do all those things because I know, I know what they are. So anyway, that's the hill that I'd be willing to die on.

31:03Alice Lane:Gosh, that's such a good one. So we're never going to come up with anything as good as that one.

31:07Lindsey Lane:You just want to high five it and say that you're on the same hill.

31:09Alice Lane:I do. I, I guys, I have, I have so much judgment for other designers. I see them not using a finish and it's happened a few times lately. And I was like, Oh no. Well, I, I feel bad for the client because somehow their designers talk them into that maybe it's just so flat yeah and it's too perfect there's the finish on it is a liar yeah the the veins are a liar yeah there's and and then the house doesn't get to live up to its fullest potential and these things all clean beautifully and even aged look so much better and so much character and you know that it's real when And you can see that you want to buy that house a hundred years from now and look at that marble.

31:55Alice Lane:Like it would be so special.

31:57Lindsey Lane:So true. I can't trust like a person that doesn't look their age. I'm cool with Botox. I'm cool with refreshing, hydrating and stuff. But if you don't look your age, I'm like, how am I supposed to trust you? You have the wisdom that you're imparting on me right now. Whoa. If you can't look right. I went there, but it is the hill that I will die. I love it. A slow death on. Okay. This is our last question from the day. And it comes from Tricia. First, she says, love the podcast. Awesome. Thanks, Tricia. We never get bored of hearing that. And then she asks, I would love to hear what your go-to finishes are for faucets, hardware, and lighting.

32:30Lindsey Lane:Which metals do you perceive as timeless? Which metals you prefer to mix together or layer? Or do you keep everything the same?

32:38Alice Lane:Tricia, this is a great question. I'm sure we've answered this before, but it's time again. I am a big fan of polished nickel when it comes to faucets. anything because in the kitchen you're usually dealing with some type of stainless stove dishwasher handles microwaves you know what i mean like silver is going to be in the mix anyway and so i see the faucets as some type of utilitarian thing i'm going to say something really bold i don't want to see a brass faucet in a kitchen i know we're going to break that rule for somebody who really wants it but i really just love a faucet i'm going to say in a bathroom as well

33:12Lindsey Lane:i don't want to see any faucets at a brass i'm going to say this about that and i do i do agree with you. But then I see stuff like our Beatrice in a bathroom and it kind of like is, you know, succumb like aging just a little bit and has, to me, I think that's so, I don't know, maybe it's just my mood right now, but I love that. I love that too.

33:29Alice Lane:I don't know why. I just love that a faucet is, I don't know. It just feels everlasting and without trend to go with some version of

33:39Lindsey Lane:that's where I do a polished nickel. I feel like it's more timeless.

33:42Alice Lane:I love it on a tub. Now we have those romantic clients and people that love brass and people are doing unlacquered brass and there's beautiful finishes for myself and for my best friends and or my mom or anybody that's advising like what would you do and trisha i feel like that's you and me right now and we're alone and i'm telling you just go polish nickel and you're not going to regret it on your faucets your hardware it's going to depend on the scene i'm mostly a polished nickel hardware person there's going to be a fancy closet we're going to use brass you know it depends on the client but if you're asking for advice and I don't I don't know your style but I still feel like

34:18Lindsey Lane:polished nickel for hardware for me and polished nickel and the reason why it's such it's our favorite metal is because it's consistent from brand to brand to brand you're typically consistent on polished nickel and so when you're mixing metals when you have hardware that you know you want it to not clash and be different than your faucet polished nickel is the way to go if you want that consistency. I wouldn't do brushed. I wouldn't do any of those things. I would do polish. Make sure you do that. And I would do polished nickel, not polished chrome. Do polished nickel because it's warm.

34:48Alice Lane:It's more expensive. Do not get sucked into that chrome one. It's cold. It is cold. Yeah.

34:55Lindsey Lane:You want the warmth.

34:56Alice Lane:And because what we're going to talk about next is how do we mix the metals together? You are going to use brass in some things and polished nickel and brass look fabulous together because there's warmth in polished nickel.

35:06Lindsey Lane:On the like spectrum of brasses there's so many different ones when we're looking at all these different companies with all these different brasses and even there's like classic brass there's like brass hardware that's insane it's all made out of real brass and they have probably like i want to say 20 different brass finishes like lucky us if you lucky you trish if you get if you use classic brass because it's amazing but majority of places you know top knobs mtech they have like one brass that's only offered in a couple of things because it's not tried and true and it's unlikely that that brass is going to get along with the brass on your light fixture and so again if you just say brass is you have to study it more and you have to like request the live samples and you have to look at it with all the other things because if I see three different brass finishes and I can tell you looking at all three of those what costs the least amount of money by the way it looks so that's why you have to be so careful especially when you're getting into faucets using brass because of just the water damage and the spotting and everything and that's again another like big vote for polished nickel is because it like it cleans up beautifully it polishes beautifully versus a brass yep if you are in a powder or in an accent like a smaller space where you don't have as many players yelling at each other awesome like i think that would be where we would do the brass faucet and it'd be coming out of the wall with a dope tile behind it and a moody wall paper just singing that same song anyway so that is that's some of the reason why but to your point in mixing metals brass unlacquered preferably with your polished nickel wins every time bananas yeah i don't like a brushed brass i think it looks fake and it looks like it's a liar yeah or it's just like a painted brush a painted brass on a steel it looks cheap you know it looks like it's

36:54Alice Lane:from Amazon and you saved a lot of money on it. And you did. She wants to know which metals do you perceive as timeless? Which metals do you prefer to mix together or layer? Or do you keep everything the same? We don't keep everything the same.

37:05Lindsey Lane:It was like a starter home when you do that.

37:07Alice Lane:Yeah.

37:07Lindsey Lane:We always compared it to just a really dapper gal with that's traveled the world has mixed metals that she's wearing in her jewelry. Like she knows her stuff.

37:15Alice Lane:Yeah. Same thing with house. I think the easy answer for me is I'm a, let's just take a primary bath. I'm a polished nickel faucet. My hardware is probably polished nickel, but it might have like on my own, I have polished nickel with a little brass ring on it. So it's a mixed metal and I'm brass on my sconces. That's generally it. I'm usually going to go brass on my lighting. Now what's fun, Trisha, is I keep hearing and I keep seeing one of the big trends for 2026 besides oversized mirror colors, color blocking. One of them is chrome everything. So I think we're about to step into a silver era where it's going to take everybody a little bit of time to get there and everybody has different design preferences and tastes but I think we are going to see an uptick in silver metals which supports the polished nickel thing still yeah whether or not you're gonna play brass on your sconces or not I don't know I still really love a mixed metal though and I think it looks more expensive and timeless to mix the metal I do too because again when everything's the same finish

38:17Lindsey Lane:it just goes completely flat and so when you have that dimension change and that shade change that's when it sings like that's when you like notice how cool that sconce is you know or how neat that hardware is and the riveting around it you just notice more details when you can call attention to it and you do that by contrast yeah and that's between the metals so yeah agreed great question trisha so great i just want to do a quick plug for a home furnishings design program this program is amazing and we created it so that we can help more people. We have a team of really knowledgeable designers that are schooled, that are in AutoCAD, that are waiting to help you with furnishing your home.

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