The Plant Daddies: Using Plants in Interior Design

19:36Macy Lucarelli:We didn't know. So, and then we're like, wow, it's not doing that great. what can we do to make this plant as opposed to just saying that doesn't go there and it doesn't work we were like how can we get this to work why doesn't it work give it a different kind of nutrients we took because of the plants that we were buying from those nurseries the dead section in the back we had to bring them back to health we had to repot them so that would that allowed us to see more of the root structure because we had to repot everything we would cut and prune all the stuff that looked bad and dead off which would give it a shape which would make it grow we learned everything we did we've learned as we've gone you take some energy away from the roots you take some energy away from the canopy and then now it's kind of got its balanced energy and then it forces more root growth into these smaller pots so now these top heavy things have more root growth in their mouth so they can hold themselves in it shoots more more leaf growth and canopy growth in to make these cool weird designs so it's like if we were typical plant guys we We would have stumbled upon all this information and knowledge and trial and error.

20:39Macy Lucarelli:We don't come from that background. We literally experimented with everything. And we've done things that people are like said that could never be done. Yeah. And my horticulture background comes from Virginia. We're in California. There is not any of the same plants other than a crepe myrtle and a boxwood in Virginia. So I know how to, I knew I learned how to line those up, plant those, you know, and do more of a landscaping. But here, you know, it's so temperate. We can really have fun with the plant specimens. You know, succulent varietal trees from Madagascar, bringing things in from Australia.

21:16Macy Lucarelli:You know, you can go crazy here. All different types of succulent and euphorias that you've never seen before. You can grow them outside. And then, you know, we don't need to pay for, you know, a controlled temperature warehouse, greenhouse to store them during winter, even though this winter has been a little bit colder. And, you know, the climate has been getting a little hairy nowadays. But we've been the placement as well as our location has been very, very forgiving to us and helped with the inspiration and and trying new things. So because we have, you know, sunny California to thank.

21:52Dane Jordan:I have a question.

21:53Macy Lucarelli:Oh, yeah.

21:53Dane Jordan:Oh, just when we think about plant eddies and we look at the sculpture, sculptural stuff that you do, we do see it more in like these minimal spaces, these California estates and things. And we obviously use you in a project that was a little more contemporary, regardless of style. Say you have a traditional home on these coasts, your West Coast. Can you still like have you guys employed your kind of plantings and that sculptural minimal edited back elements in all these types of styles?

22:21Macy Lucarelli:Yeah, so thankfully with these plants that are so sculpted, they're almost like puzzle pieces that you can just fit anywhere, especially if you're kind of pairing them with a Bethel. And then with our plant, this is for interior mostly, with our plant material that we source here in California, since most of them are going to go interior, it's going to be a controlled setting. So we can grow here, shape things here, and then if we need to do something out of state that's going to freeze in the winter, it's going to be inside, right? So if it's near a nice window, you know, and it's getting plenty of light, there's opportunity there.

22:56Macy Lucarelli:Granted, it is a lot of work, you know, doing things a little bit out of area, you know, understanding how the scale is of the plant. When we do our rendered packages for designs, they look amazing, but it just, you never get the experience. So a lot of times we'll have clients that we've been working with and we've been sending photos back and forth. And they're like, you know, I'm just going to come in. And they come in and they're like, oh, I love this plant. this is the most amazing plant I've ever seen in my life. I'm like, this is literally the one I've been to photo of. And they're like, this is the same one.

23:28Macy Lucarelli:They're like, it's so much bigger and it looks so beautiful. And I don't know if it's sometimes the plant is like, speaks to the client. There's some sort of like magical energy there, but there's also just when you have experience in real life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the 3d element of actually feeling it in a space is something different. And 95 % of the time, we end up putting the plant that they didn't want in a place they didn't want it. It's just crazy. Well, wait, will you speak more to that?

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25:48Dane Jordan:And so I would love to hear an example of what you're saying.

25:51Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. People don't look at plants. People are starting to look at plants in a way that we are starting to look at plants now. It's becoming more popular. All of these different plant companies now that we see are all, they all sell the same plants all of a sudden, they all are starting to look the same. So basically what is like, someone will have a house and they'll say, this is where I would put my tree. It is where I would put my tree in this, you know, I don't want to block the view. It can't put one there. Half of our houses are on the coast with ocean views. So we have to, you know, be very sensitive to that.

26:23Macy Lucarelli:So like they would never put a big tree in the corner of their master bedroom blocking the wind the view well that's the perfect place for us um we have we have these really cool root systems that show something down low and then as it comes up it's dainty it's whimsical it's sculptural you can see through it so not only do you get like the art aspect of it but you also get to put it in places that typically don't happen so you know we'll walk in and they're like you know oh no a chandelier needs to go here and we're like no a tree needs and they're like no way so then when we actually take home the design we put the plant in that space they're like i would have never thought in a million years a tree would have gone here i want it here i you know and then you know that's that's or or we'll pair the some you know sometimes we're on the project early enough we'll pair the the plant specimen to be intertwined with the chandelier so they speak together so there's some some sort of magical element going on there as well or bathrooms like we've been really big on bathrooms nowadays sometimes they have skylight or they've got bright window we'll put something just hanging over the tub and they would never have thought of something like that you know they're like oh i would have a you know plan in the bathroom but now you know that's one of the first places we go because it's typically always got good light in a lot of bathrooms nowadays especially in newer architecture you want that that new that that morning light coming in or the afternoon light going into the to the bathroom and those are just weird places where we'll put stuff and then we also have our our night collection we call it the ironwood which is a completely organic preserved tree branch that we've been we get cut backs of them and we'll put those in like places with no light so you can have still like an organic element in there even though it's a preserved cutting that look really really cool and then we pair those again with with a beautiful vessel it just it looks amazing so those have been really popular we like selling them because there's no callbacks on the plant you know getting underwater no underwater uh you know so but then you know it's something to have there and it makes the whole room look like bigger too so if you have a you know tall ceiling sometimes you just look up and you're done right you don't really get understand how big it is and then if you have some plant vessel in the corner it gives you more scale you look up and you know your head goes up with the, with the room and you're like, Oh, now you're up in there.

28:51Macy Lucarelli:And it just kind of gives you a moment to appreciate the entire space instead of just like, you know, couch, coffee table, TV, you know, you could actually just encompass yourself in the whole space.

29:01Dane Jordan:It makes it feel so much more grand. Yes.

29:04Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. Yeah.

29:04Dane Jordan:I will say your eye up for most clients. We talk about this on the podcast a lot. Like if your room feels like it's falling flat, it needs more. It needs something that's living. You need a tree. You need some zebra in there. You need like some, something organic and living, be it materials, but the tree always, it always, always wins. And I think you've said it before. Like I could be, I could be standing here naked, but if there's a tree in the, nobody sees it. Everyone always sees the tree. Everybody, everybody's obsessed with tree. For those people that are listening, I'm curious, do you guys have favorite tree species?

29:36Dane Jordan:I mean, if they're in North Carolina listening and obviously they're not going to be able to probably use your services. is there, there's probably like certain trees that feel really cliche to you guys. If you're in the business, you love every tree.

29:49Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. I'm so bipolar with what I like. You know, it's like it changes with the wind. I kind of compare it to, you know, people are like, what kind of wine do you drink? You know, what am I eating? You know, where, where am I? You know, am I, is it, is it brunch? If you can buy it at Home Depot, we don't use it.

30:07Dane Jordan:Okay.

30:08Macy Lucarelli:Do you guys have, I think that's a great, I will, I will, I will tell you right now, you basically probably kicked me for telling the world. I was at Costco the other day and I bought a ficus jing jing. They had the biggest root I've ever seen. And it was for$25. It came with the pot and I was sending a Macy photo. I was like, look at this. I'm going to come back and buy them all. So you never know. You never know. So you even like a ficus.

30:35Dane Jordan:That's awesome. I love ficus.

30:36Macy Lucarelli:The couple plants we use are ficus. There's like hundreds of different types. Yeah. Yeah.

30:40Dane Jordan:it's probably how you guys trim it and pot it that make it look so special we will pluck about

30:47Macy Lucarelli:80 of the leaves and the the branches off of that tree to make it look unique a lot of the that we you know a lot of plants that we use are pretty widely available plants all over the country people are just like what is that and we're like that's a phycus audrey and they're like that's not a phycus audrey and we have to like zoom in and show them the leaf like this is a I was just going to say, you guys have like super interesting point of view on plants.

31:14Dane Jordan:And I think, I mean, just your background and your story kind of just proves that. What's the one thing you guys learned from like, you know, having to be creative and cutting stuff back? Like, man, we should never do that again with a plant.

31:28Macy Lucarelli:I mean, there's a cool book. It's called Packer Forms. And inside the book, he's like a, it's like a old school horticulturist. And he has a quote in there and it says to know is to kill. So to know the plant you're working on, you're probably going to have to kill it once or twice to understand it. Unfortunately, I call it more compost than killing it, but that's awesome. Yeah. So a lot of, you know, a lot of the stuff that we do like experiments with, you know, it just goes so far south. and then we've got to just put it in the back. We're like, okay, we'll put it, you know, we'll treat it normal again and then put it in the back.

32:11Macy Lucarelli:And then, you know, luckily, you know, my favorite thing about nature and horticulture is that it's so forgiving that sometimes, you know, it just looks like it's dead. And then, you know, you did the most horrible thing to it. You rip the roots out, you cut the top off, and then it's just like all the leaves go away and all the energy just goes, just slowly goes away. but all you need is like it's like almost like a fire like all you need is that little spark and then boom it just comes all the way back so it's nature nature is very forgiving you know you can manipulate it how you want sometimes they'll tell you no but you know usually it gives you another chance yeah it's awesome you know we we like everyone that hits us up on instagram we try and hit up every person that we dm everybody back whether it's you know instantaneously or we have to get through all of them and talk to someone a week later, but we always respond.

33:02Macy Lucarelli:And everybody's like, Oh my God, my plant is dying. I don't want to, you know, do this. What do I do? And I'm just like, the main conversation I have with people is like, Hey, your plant is not dying. That thing has got three to six months worth of life left into it. Even if you didn't water it, it's not going to look good, but it's not going to die. You can easily bring it back. Just make a micro change and figure out what's going on until you make changes, you know, and plants are three weeks. you don't just you know what kills plants most is over watering them you you you give it too much water or you just pulled it out of its comfy home and he was put into a new environment different temperatures different light different heat different oxygen exchange all this stuff so now the plant's gonna sag a little bit so you're like oh this plant needs water so you give it water now there's too much water now the leaves are starting to turn brown because there's too much water and you instinctively think, Oh, more water, more water.

33:55Macy Lucarelli:So you get more water. And then, you know, I've done this so many times too.

34:00Dane Jordan:We love too hard.

34:02Macy Lucarelli:You want to keep a plant alive and neglected. It might not look its best, but it'll stay alive. And then you can figure it out. You have a lot of time with plants. And that's why I'm saying you make a change. You wait a couple of weeks. You don't just make a next change every three days. It's going to be dead for sure. You like, you don't know if the water that you gave it three you know, three days ago is what's killing it. Or if it needs, you know, it's like, it's just, you gotta do it. We like, yeah, we, we air air to dry, right? Air on the dry side. So it's better to underwater than the overwater.

34:35Macy Lucarelli:So if you underwater so much that it's like leaves are falling off, that's, that's my favorite spot. It's like right when the leaves start falling off, then, you know, like, okay, I need to add water now. And then next time I won't leave it as long. I'll just shorten it, shorten it up a little. and then once you keep shortening it up you kind of have that sweet spot so right when it's like leaves are about to fall off just give it some water especially for interior because the evaporation rate is just so slow like if you leave a cup on your counter it'll stay wet forever you're right like i'll stay water but if you leave it outside it'll disappear in two days so that's what you kind of understand and then for every home everything's so different like i have clients with heated floors and skylights, you know, and so we have to go there and dump water on stuff.

35:20Macy Lucarelli:And then we have other clients that are like have it at 67 degrees every day. You know, they open the blinds late, you know, you have to just account for all that stuff. So unfortunately there's no, there's no algorithm that we could give someone like seven, seven cups of water or 62 ounces of water every Tuesday at three o 'clock. That's the quickest way, you know, yeah. Yeah, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can put a plant, the same exact plant in your master bedroom and one in your bathroom and you have to water them differently.

35:50Dane Jordan:OK, so let's give some advice to anybody that's just wanting to live with a tree. They've never done it before. First time, first time user. What would you what would you say?

36:00Macy Lucarelli:All the plant daddies.

36:01Dane Jordan:Yes, for sure. How far how far will you guys go?

36:05Macy Lucarelli:We've serviced all over the country. Not in all cases, service is different. Like servicing the plant weekly has to be very local. We are learning right now that servicing out of our direct areas, out of state, just takes so much of our time away. And all the businesses we have here right now, all the projects we have going all suffer. So we'll take a job anywhere. We've done them in New York. We've done them in Miami. We've done one in Texas. We are doing a couple in Vegas right now. we've got two going on in san francisco but it you know it has to be substantial enough for it to be worth our time and then the installation the labor and the delivery has to be a significant chunk of that portion as well because we're gone for two or three days yeah well you know so yeah and then we can't service it so then we also don't want to always do this because then we can't get to it if there is a problem you know so we're we're honestly about to tell everybody no morons.

37:03Macy Lucarelli:Unless it's Angela. We say that, then we don't say that. We get that. But they really want one. I'm like, okay, fine.

37:13Dane Jordan:So our first choice is obviously call the plant daddies. If you decide to put that rule in place where you're not going to do out of state work, where would you tell somebody, like, where should they start? If they have a nice, sunny, bright corner in their bedroom or their living room or something, and they want to try bringing in a real tree, not that fake tree that you can get online, but an actual real tree.

37:35Macy Lucarelli:Personally, I would just start with our local nurseries. Anywhere that you've probably driven by before and saw plants sticking out the top that might be like off a strip mall or just like under some power lines or something like that, just something super random that just looks like a garden center, that would be a great place to start. And you might find something magical there. Usually those guys that run those shops have been there for years. I'm sure they have. You know, we all know the place you're talking about. And they'll know exactly, you know, all about the plant that you're taking care of.

38:10Macy Lucarelli:And then you'll probably get a good deal on it as well. It might be just one cool thing that you find there. Big box stores, you can go. You'll probably find a million of the same things that everyone has before. But if you wanted something special, I would, I suggest just pulling over to that, that corner, corner nursery that, that doesn't probably get as much love as the big box stores and just maybe shop around there. It does take time. And then, you know, going there, I'd go there prepared, like, hey, this is where I want to put it. This is where I'm thinking of putting it. The more light, no matter what type of plant specimen it is, the better.

38:46Macy Lucarelli:and then I find the hardest part, even for people that come here, is understanding how tall their ceiling is and how much space they have. Because that is like, now you've got to redo it. It's like, you know what? I think it's 8 feet and then it's like, honey, it's 11 feet. They're like, no, I think it's 7 feet. I think I could touch it, you know? There's nothing worse than getting home going paying for a lug or getting a U-Haul and going to get something that doesn't fit in the house. you know yeah or it's just like you know not what you wanted so take the time understand where you want to put it really good light and then take a chance on those mon pa plant nurseries and i think you might find something special and the harder i think it is to find the more you like it and then i don't know about you guys but you know when you really like a plant it is family it's like an adoption.

39:39Macy Lucarelli:It's a part of, you know, it's like another pet or, you know, your, your, your housemate. So I think, I think it makes it more special that way.

39:48Dane Jordan:Yeah. Is there a few favorite varieties that you guys would say, go into that mom and pop shop and ask for one of these things if, if, you know, if you can't speak plant? Yeah.

39:58Macy Lucarelli:I guess anything ficus will, is a little bit more forgiving, especially if you over water or underwater, it's a little bit, way more information online there's so many different ficus ficus larata or the fiddly fig everyone knows that one um you can find some really cool ones that are you know just like crazy but those tend to be in the ass though they are really really hard to take care of the fiddly fig i killed mine i had one for seven years and i repotted it it never came back so you know and i was i you know i I kicked myself in the butt for that. But the Fiddle Weepay, you know, granted, you know, we've all seen it.

40:40Macy Lucarelli:I still love it. I just bought a huge one for a client. I mean, but it's massive, you know, one of a kind. But, you know, they're cool. So, really, it's up to the client, you know. And then, you know, how often are you going to be home? Are you going to be able to take care of it? I think also a Dracaena. So, those are very introductory. You can forget about it. You don't go over, you know, overcompensate with like cleaning it and taking care of it. I think a Dracaena from a mom-and-pop shop, you'll find something really cool. And then you can just pop it in a little pot and forget about it. Yeah.

41:16Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's great. I think just finding, you know, something that you like, talking to the nursery guy about it, and then just starting very basic. so just be basic and then once you learn that plant then start taking risks getting different things putting in different places but just go get the right plant from the right place and they'll tell you which ones to get they'll tell you how to water they'll tell you what to do and just experiment you know just go for it jump in and then you know learn it and pay attention to it all you have to do is just kind of pay attention to it and then you'll figure it out you'll see when it's drooping you'll see when it's drying and then you just kind of throw yourself in there, it's definitely a solvable problem.

41:58Macy Lucarelli:That's right. Yeah. And then really nowadays, information is so easy to get ahold of. Chai TBT could be your best friend with some. So if you're like, you know, I'm going to buy the plant, I'm going to put it here. What do you think? You know, it'll even like measure it out for you. So you can probably get away with becoming a plant daddy with a little AI there. You'll be good to know.

42:19Dane Jordan:Do you guys have a favorite tabletop? I know besides big trees, which I think everybody's probably picturing in their mind while we've been talking, you guys also do tabletop plantings, which we were able to use quite a bit in Las Vegas on cocktail tables or entry consoles. Those are big moves as well in an interior space. Do you guys have a favorite tabletop species?

42:39Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. What do you think, Mace? I think everything that like most of the plants we deal with besides the ficus, and there's a couple other ones, but you wouldn't ever know this. You wouldn't ever have discovered this, but they're all desert succulents. They're all just big, giant succulents. The bottle trees, the ponytail palms, the dicarii, all the plants, all the specialty, crazy, whimsical plants that we have mostly are succulents. Those are usually my favorite to use. We have one called the dicarii. It's called the Madagascar elephant tree. Everybody seems to love that thing. It's really hard to kill.

43:13Macy Lucarelli:It's not hard to make it have no leaves, but even if it has no leaves, the trunk structure is so cool that it's still fine even if it's got no leaves on it and then watching the leaves grow back is a pretty fun process but yeah i like to use succulents just because they're hard to they're hard to kill but they also have like a such a short root structure so you can put them in a low bowl so i wouldn't have like a favorite but my favorite look is just like the smallest vessel with the biggest plant you know the smaller if i could get a smaller pot and a bigger plant you know in in there that's my favorite i don't really you know there's no certain type we've been macy's been doing the succulents i've been doing like shiflera little small umbrella trees that have like really like big spikes on there or our arms on their branches and where where we specialize is as well as you know we took a page out of a traditional like japanese chinese bonsai where you can wire it and manipulate the branches to where you want them to go.

44:18Macy Lucarelli:And then makes it, it looks almost like jewelry on there, you know, get a nice shiny wire on there, wrap it on there evenly, and then you can just bend it to how you want it to look. And sometimes you take it and then we'll just like bend it all the way back onto itself, making it look like almost like, you know, utilizing Fibnacci to just like make it go into like a nice spiral. And that's always, I don't care what type of plant it is, that's always super cool to look at. It's just like static, you know, suspended suspended in a little dish and it's like it looks like a wave of green yeah it's

44:49Dane Jordan:really cool i bet you it's addicting once people get started with plant daddies i'll bet everybody says hey let's just let's keep going with this i'll bet you don't ever just do one thing at an install you probably know once they see the magic and the power and you guys probably know it when you first go into a home that they're asking for one thing but you're like you're also going to want a lot more of this and once they experience the magic it's a it's a gate it's a gateway drug for

45:15Macy Lucarelli:sure yeah and real quick just i don't want to interrupt but i just wanted you guys to see this yes what is that this is what we're talking about this is a succulent um it's hard to see but it's off to the side of the pot and so like we you know this thing had a crazy root structure So the only way it can fit in this pot is if we tilted it sideways. And, you know, so like this has like a root that comes all the way over to here. So we couldn't put it up. So then what we did was we're like, is it okay to hang a tree off the side? And it's like, it absolutely is. So, you know, it's just so cool. These are the kinds of succulents that we like to work with, just things that you can bend.

45:57Macy Lucarelli:This was straight. We wired it. We bent it. But yeah, it's like, it's literally not even in the pot. And, you know, it's like everybody's favorite. So that's kind of.

46:05Dane Jordan:You guys are so talented.

46:09Dane Jordan:I'm so glad that you guys decided to just start this thing up in the pandemic. Can you even imagine if you didn't? It seems like you guys are having the time of your life. You're so talented. All your talents and hobbies are being used at the same time. You're people people. So I'm sure everybody enjoys working with you. I'm just so happy that you guys found your thing. It's so cool.

46:31Macy Lucarelli:We're very fortunate. you know we're macy and then kenny i'm gonna name drop him since he's he's not on here but our other business partner kenny kenny and macy have known each other since they're like five you know and then macy and i have been friends for like 15 years so we're lucky enough to and fortunate enough to work with our friends and then even the way like we hire it's like our community and our clients as well they're now our friends you know they we work with designers project after project after project and like i'm like looking at photos i'm like oh that was four years ago like oh you know and then you know we're always talking about you know new projects that's coming up and the parties and events and now before you know it's like we kind of built this ecosystem where we kind of thrive off of and live and eat off of and we you know now we have we have 18 employees you know to me that is crazy congratulations yeah it's 20 20 now it's hard to keep track that's awesome yeah it's really cool so it's been it's been fortunate you know of course everyone if you have any idea on how to run a business it's a complete nightmare at the same time yeah but you know but it's it's our nightmare our little our little our little sweetie prison that's hilarious when it's with friends it's not so bad right yeah work can be more fun than fun right yeah the grass is green if i'm suffering and i look over and kenny's suffering and i call dan he's suffering i'm like all right i feel okay yeah i love that that's the beautiful thing about this business is so far everything that we wanted to happen since the second we shook hands has happened we wanted to build up an instagram we wanted to create like a society and it's just all naturally happening and it's it's evolving and it's literally it's just it's happening and and the best part about it is when we are done and We just put a bunch of plants in somebody's house.

48:26Macy Lucarelli:My favorite part of the business is how these clients are and how happy they are when they see us a month later and how like the reviews we get and the, you know, like calls to the other clients we get from everybody. It's just so stoked. And that's where it's like, it's just so awesome to be around that. There's a zero. And it's just such a happy place to be. I mean, I wish you could see where I'm at right now. my my one of my office doors completely opens up um we're in the old five points amphitheater ticket booth right here because it's such a raw building that this was like a an office that was available so it's like i opened this door up and it's like it's just the most beautiful garden i get to stare at all day long you know so it's just yeah we're so stoked you live in fern gully that's

49:17Dane Jordan:awesome tell all of oh do you have a question oh i was more of a comment but i think the success you guys are having is because that's the energy you're putting out there. Your passion for plants is infectious.

49:33Macy Lucarelli:I think the world needs more of that. The world needs more people that are just creating and just artists, just being artists just to art.

49:42Dane Jordan:You know what I mean? That's what I think you guys are. Like I said, infectious. It's fun to see and kind of, yeah, hear your guys' story and to follow along on Instagram and everything. Maybe we should give everyone your handle too. Have we done that yet? No. Tell them where they can find you.

49:59Macy Lucarelli:We can either be on our website, www.theplantdaddies.com or where all of our main portfolio is and all the installs that we do and the crazy things that happen. It's just, it's at the.plant.daddies, D-A-D-D-I-E-S. Perfect. Yeah, follow up. If you DM us, Dane and I are 95 % of the time the ones that respond. So you'll be talking to one of us usually. And yeah, if you have any questions, you can always hit us up. We'll walk you through everything we possibly can, as long as it doesn't get out of control. Then we have to start tracking you.

50:33Dane Jordan:That's so great. You guys, we can't thank you enough for coming on the podcast today. I know this is going to be such a valuable resource, which is, you know, hard because you don't want to share all your secrets because then you won't be able to get a hold of Macy and Dane, but I think it's one of those tricks that you guys are very like one of one kind of business. And it's, it's like buying original artwork and sculpture. And I just know designers everywhere are going to want to know about you guys and, and start following you and dig deep as to the change that having something living in your room will make.

51:05Dane Jordan:So thank you so much for coming on.

51:07Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. We appreciate it. One last thing I have to do a shout out to my mom because she She was very upset at the last podcast. I didn't mention her. So I love you.

51:16Dane Jordan:I love it. What's your mom's name? I know.

51:19Macy Lucarelli:Jeanette.

51:20Dane Jordan:Jeanette. Hi, Jeanette. Amazing. You raised a good one. Yeah, you did. What a great story. You guys are inspirational. Yeah. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to come on Dear Alice today.

51:31Macy Lucarelli:Yeah. You got it. We enjoy it. Thank you.

51:33Dane Jordan:You guys, that was so much fun talking to those guys. Thanks for being here with us. I know. That was so much fun. Oh, gosh. I felt like I was just talking to family. Yeah. They're so infectious, their personalities, and you can tell they have a real passion for what they do, which just makes you want to get closer to the fire. You know what I mean? Totally. And who knew the ficus is what's on fire? I thought for sure they were going to say, do not use a fiddly fig. And they love them all. I know, because they can do great things with them. That's a true artist. That is a true artist, I will say.

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52:40Dane Jordan:This month? This month. The very best sale is this month? This month. That's crazy. I know. Welcome April 2026. It's the Super Bowl at Alice Lane. Definitely sign up and get those things before they sell out. This is the biggest event at Alice Lane and I'm so happy it's April. I know. And if you have any episode ideas for Dear Alice, just send those in to deeraliceatalicelanehome.com and we'd love to make a podcast out of them. Thanks so much for tuning in, you guys. We'll catch you next time.

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