Transform Your Bathroom: Expert Interior Design Tricks

0:00Hello everyone, welcome to Dear Alice, our Thanksgiving edition. Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah. Or if you're listening to this late i hope you had a great one and that means we're into black friday already which is crazy i can't believe it 2025 where'd it go evaporated i did yeah here we are it's been i feel like 2025 has been a really great year i do too it's been some gnarly stuff in it though oh yeah like you know yeah actually on 26 i'm ready i know i'm a world presented some So I love like the clean even of 25, you know, and TMI, but I was born in 75. So 25, you know, it just kind of fits like in the pocket.

0:44So I was like, something kind of epic needs to happen for me and my world. Quarter of a century. Yeah. Like it, no, half. No. I'm 50. Half of a century. You're half century, but yeah. You look quarter though. I know. Seriously. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving, everybody. And we have a fun episode for you today. We did an episode a little while back that you guys loved. We had so many people join in and listen to it. It was called Transform Your Kitchens, Expert Interior Design Tricks. And we had a listener question came in that made us think we should do that for the bathrooms.

1:20So today's episode is Transform Your Bathroom, Expert Interior Design Tricks. So if you are working on a kitchen, go back and listen to that because we gave a lot of tricks and tips. Away in that. And then this one is going to be sort of a masterclass on bathrooms. So we're going to be taking you through three of our favorite portfolio projects from our interior design firm, Alice Lane Interior Design today. And Suze will be taking us through those and just sharing some really cool ways that we solved problems. One of them is a remodel, two are a new build. And so I hope that this will answer a lot of your questions.

1:53We don't gatekeep, so we're kind of giving away the keys to the kingdom here. yeah speaking of black friday though i have to have a quick reminder for you guys the black friday sale is going on right now on our website and you can get up to 20 off site-wide and it's at alice lane home.com so go shop that now it's a great time to do anything home related or if you want to there's great gift guides really awesome deals on and for anybody in your family really So again, it's alisanehome.com. Go shop the Black Friday collection. Since it is the season of thanks, I'm huge on, you know, being thankful for stuff and sending that positive energy out.

2:33So what are you guys thankful this season? Thankful for this season? Man, that's a list. Let's see. I'm grateful for, of course, my family and my kids and to live in a really beautiful place and have the freedoms that we have. Gosh, I'm going to keep going. But I'm really grateful, too, for what I get to do, you know, that I'm like, I feel like we have a lot of different roles and hats that we wear in life, you know, being like a wife and a mother. And but to be able to do what I do professionally is really, really gratifying. And I'm really grateful that I've landed where I've landed, that I met Jess, that I get to do this thing that I love to do and I get to meet the clients that I love so much.

3:15and also that we get to just like, I don't know, we get to teach people, you know, through this podcast. I'm just grateful for all the opportunity I'd have to say that I've been given personal and professional in my life. I love that. I hope everybody feels like that out there that they're like, man, if this weren't my life, I wish it were. I would wish that it would be. You know, like I do feel so fortunate that we get to do something that we love so much. And I know if I were on the outside looking in, I'd be like, I wish I could do that. And we're doing it, which is really, really fun. But I also want to add to that, like good health.

3:52Because I feel like, I think because, you know, this time of year where it gets colder and everything, cold and flu kind of starts to pump up. And you're just so grateful to feel good and to get to do what you do. And I love it so much in good health. So I feel grateful for that too. And grateful for you guys and grateful for you listeners. I mean, how lucky are we that you're tuning in to us on a holiday, some of you, and maybe on the weekend. But thank you for tuning in to this. It's just, it's been an absolute dream to still be in here like six years later and talking about interior design with you guys.

4:26Like such great friends and people that have been in the industry with me for so long. I don't know. It just feels like a really safe place to come together and share what we know on our favorite topic. Yeah. Yeah. And our listeners have made us number one in Apple design charts. So for the last three months, which is a huge accomplishment. That's amazing. We've been super excited about it. We're not the best at. Soccer? No. We're not the best at patting ourselves on the back. But yeah, it's all because of you guys, though. So we're super thankful for our listeners. And like Jess mentioned, this podcast was inspired by a question from Amy Osterhagen.

5:05and she asks, I'm beginning a bathroom remodel in a home built in 1910, and I've been reviewing your portfolio for inspiration. My style leans towards traditional and classic design with a touch of modern, but I'd love to incorporate a serene spa-like atmosphere as well. I'm aiming to use timeless products and finishes that I'll still appreciate 10 years from now. Could you share your guidance on selecting the right materials and features? Specifically, I'd love pointers on flooring, lighting, vanities, showers, and other key elements. I want to balance function, durability, and style while maintaining harmony with the home's historic character.

5:45Great question, Amy. Yes. We turned it into a podcast so great. Yes, it is so great. There's too many things to hit on this that we're like, yeah, we do need to like really dive into the bathroom, whether it's like your primary bathroom, your kids' bathrooms, I think all these tips and tricks are very, very applicable. And as we think about just like when you're like entering into a remodel or you're going to build a home, the two highest, as far as price per square foot spaces are the kitchen and usually that primary bathroom. That's where you're going to use the living stone. That's where you're going to like do the most expensive cabinetry, those things.

6:18And it's so such a bummer to go into a home that's possibly just been done and they missed marks on it or it doesn't work right. And so I really, we really want to kind to dive into the function yeah specifically we're going to start their form follows function we're going to dive into the function of just like what makes a successful bathroom and things like you have to have and then also like addressing you know those timeless finishes that Amy you're kind of wanting you know so that this like 10 years from now hopefully 20 years from now like there's there's still merit to the spaces that you're using and that they work really well so Yes.

6:53Yeah. Great. Let's dive in. All right. Okay. The first one we're going to talk about is our Grand Tour Estate Project. Now this is on our portfolio and this is a home that we worked on, I think probably like 2018, 2017, in those years. And I look at the pictures and I still love this bathroom. Me too. It is so smart. And I still think a decade from now, I will still love this because it's so darn smart. It's unpredictable and really interesting solutions to space planning. and storage in smaller spaces for a primary bath. There's key things like the shower, which I think there's things that we did that made it grand, but really that made it so smart.

7:33And I think the problem solving finishes, it's all there. So we had to go here first for you guys. So if you can tune in and watch this episode, it's on YouTube or Spotify, or if you're just listening, we're going to do our best to describe to you this. But I think the space planning here is worth visually tuning in for this. And the after photos. The after photos are so good. But really, I couldn't even find. We're going to show you some before pictures, which are going to be really fun for you. But I want to talk to you and just kind of set the scene of what this bathroom was. Again, built in the early 2000s.

8:05Really heavy mahogany. All the trim. Or not mahogany. Probably Nadia Alder. Nadia Alder. It was an Aldia. Just staying dark. Extra knots. Probably travertine. Just like base level. Kind of like when you look at it now, you're like, that's like gas station flooring. It's not great. It was the dream bathroom in the early 2000s. Yeah. Yeah. It had a really cramped corner like cabinetry with a big tower. Like so glad. Oh, here we are. Here we are. That's right there. That's right. I got a little greenery on top. Ivy on top of the crown right there. That's fantastic. So you have these two really small, probably like, let's say like maybe like a 42 inch vanities on each side.

8:43Again, they're kind of like perpendicular to each other. And then you have a big tower sitting between them. Again, a very, a lovely sized home, but really small bathroom that didn't feel grand at all. So this is the primary bathroom and it's in a corner. Corner is clipped. And then the cabinetry, the storage tower is in that clipped corner. And then the vanities come off, come off of that. It's if you were getting ready with your partner, you'd almost be like cheek to cheek getting ready and be sort of talking over each over your shoulder to talk to your spouse or. whatnot speckly granite granite countertops yeah yep and just again that just kind of that same beige travertine for the flooring again i couldn't find a before picture of the corner jetted tub you know what it looks like but here are a couple pictures of the shower which also has a clipped corner a lot of clipped corners um and again just kind of the same beige porcelain tile happening in here and it's just i think that's travertine travertine it looks like a real one um but But yeah, and then the plumbing suite is oil-repped bronze.

9:50So you can picture that. Okay, so these are some of the before pictures, more of the shower. And yeah, just let me, let's talk about the space planning of what we did. Again, it was really, really small. You just took the existing space and, okay. Yeah, they weren't interested in like adding to the exterior, like enlarging the footprint. So we really had to work with what we had and just, again, reallocate where our doors, where our entrance is. like how do we get a more beautiful tub in here that's not built in so we can fit all the things so i think that's a great point because i think sometimes people you know like a professional architect did this so therefore it must be like laid out the best it you know could possibly be lies yeah i will say i'm like majority and like we get new plans on our desk all the time from architects from builders from developers and i tell you what the bathroom and the kitchen always have to be reworked they're not they're like 95 of the time they're not smart sometimes you'll get like a really butterfly of an architect who really cares and has thought about the functionality but usually like it should it can be reworked to be better so really don't like take it for like face value when you get that plan from the architect that you paid think about like how you want the space to feel and how it needs to look because I guarantee you it could always be better.

11:07I think too, maybe a little bit like chat GPT, the better the prompt, the better the answer you'll get. And I think if people knew how to prompt their architect to get a really smart and thought out kitchen, I know the architect would sit and do the time with you, but I don't know if people are always giving the very best prompts. They're like, you're the best at your job. You go ahead and design my home and you've done this a million times. And they give you, you know the kitchen they think that's your dreams but little do they know that you're a pastry chef and you have all of these whatever's or you throw the most parties and you need to have a party pantry with you know um four different changes of china and and you know what i mean like really those specific things are what's going to make the architect better at his job the interior designer better at their job the better the prompt you give people with the more specifics the better job they can do.

12:01So maybe it's not the architect's fault. Maybe it's just that we all think that they're this, you know, wonderful Oz and that they can read our minds and they know. So anyway, that's as interior designers, then we dig in to become the wonderful Oz by asking a billion questions and interrogating them and maybe even going to their existing kitchen to look in all of their cupboards and doors and drawers and go, oh my gosh, you didn't tell me, but you are a sourdough bread maker, a championship sourdough bread maker. And you make the most loaves of bread in the West. So let's, let's go ahead and be a baking station.

12:35Yeah. Or whatever it is. So yeah, I mean, I think we just, we need to prompt people for that. I love that. I love that. And again, I think visuals is always a great way. I'm like storage wise, you know how you get ready or like what products you're using and what proximity they need to be to you. And so that'll help with your storage solutions. But just visually, if you show an architect or a designer, I love these bathrooms. They feel spa-like. They feel historic. They feel all the things, Amy, that you want. That gives us so many clues into like how we need to refit this bathroom. So just like you're doing the same thing with our client here, they needed storage.

13:12Like that is probably like when we're talking about bathrooms, they need more storage. And if we're going to omit that tower that connects the two vanities, then we need to provide back that much storage in return. and I'm really really proud of like where we landed with this so consider the vertical storage consider where you can actually like optimize your vanities like where you should put them it'd be the most ideal I really like if you you know when you're getting ready you know by yourself or with your partner that is usually beginning of days might be like the only time you're seeing that person and so to not be able to see them in a mirror or be like near them I think is a disadvantage and so when people put the tower in between the two vanities like it was previous that's just like putting a wall you know up and so whether the vanities like the sinks are next to each other so you can see each other or here where you're back to back at least you can see their reflection and I think that that's really really lovely okay this is a really hot tip that like we need to say out loud here is your sconces a lot of times people will just and I think that's what they had before they had a mirror and then they only have to buy one sconce to put over that one mirror let's go back there and show them after okay so here's that before you can see one mirror with a sconce above just what happens when you put that sconce above your mirror we call it halloween face because you the light is shining down down from up above and then you get shadows from your eyebrows covering your eyes so you have these dark sockets not cute and then you get shadows from your nose down onto your lips and you just you've never looked worse actually and This is the solution.

14:49And look at where the light is in this bathroom. It's behind you. So you have no light on your face. You're trying to get ready with Halloween face. And you're like, I can't see. In your backlit. I can't draw on my eyeliner to save my life. I don't know how you could leave feeling confident for the day. And then you get in your car and like surprise number one is you see your eyebrows like in the rear of your mirror. And you're just like, oh my gosh. And then you're doing makeup in your car. That's weird. Yeah. So this is never a good solution. You don't want a sconce above your mirror. not one single sconce.

15:18You can pull that trick if you really want to in a powder bath because you're not getting ready there. But the best solution for bathrooms, if you learn nothing today, the best solution for bathrooms, especially bathrooms that you get ready in, you want a sconce on both sides of your face. You want to put that right next to that mirror. And here's what you want. You want a glass sconce with multiple light bulbs in it. You do not want a sconce with a shade on top. We've gone in a lot of bathrooms where we see, which that's like your fireplace mantle sconce or your hallway sconce that's shaded with a linen shade.

15:53I've even seen somebody with brown shades in their primary bath with one candelabra bulb and then brown shades over the top. I've seen that recently. How are you going to get ready in that? That's pushing the light down. So it's not at, again, not at your face. So that's even diffused. It's like a bad filter. This is not bathroom lights. Like people with websites should have maybe categories for these are the bathroom lights, but for some reason they just think sconces or sconces or sconces. So what you want, and you can see here from this finished picture of this bathroom, we've got white glass, which really brightens the space.

16:30And then you're able to put at least two full-size light bulbs and not candelabra bulbs, like full-size light bulbs on each side. So you've got four light bulbs on both sides of your face, illuminating that plus overhead light, go ahead and draw your eyeliner on now. Like that's a better experience and you'll, you won't have any surprises when you look in the rear view mirror. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. I love that. In this picture, I just wanted to point out too, that we have that, that vertical storage and you can see how we integrated that hardware. So they can just slide back and forth from each other on those rails.

17:01And it just was like the most beautiful solution. So they not only have storage for like towels and things happening, but all their product. And And that's like a great amount of space from like countertop to ceiling. That's like a closet. It's amazing. That's like your primary closet in your bedroom right now. Look at the amount of space there is just for bathroom storage. It has so many lotions and potions in there. I know. Lufas. I know. Lufas for days. Yeah. Hello. It going like wall to wall too. It just makes it feel like a wall rather than like a piece of cabinetry, like protruding out like it did in the, you know, the before.

17:34That was just like such a division in the space. yes I love that you pointed that out I was actually just looking at some plans and the cabinet maker had just pulled the cabinetry off of the wall and for like some reason or another I think because of a doorway or a window casing or saying like yeah you won't be able to have full cabinetry there I'm just like let's like take it shallow let's have finished work because visually it's going to look so much better if you can go side to side top to bottom every time here let's talk really quickly about the shower and the tub room okay so again before we had a really awkward corner tub.

18:06It was jetted glory for no one. And just like a small little cramped clipped shower. We wanted to like give her something different. Again, utilizing, it's trying to get as much light into that main area of the bathroom, opted to do a wet room with a full glass door to again, share all that light. And really there just wasn't a whole lot of room to have a standalone tub and a shower. So if you want a standalone tub, that's what I meant, standalone tub, you kind of have to maybe employ this trick is to kind of put that tub inside what we call a wet room so you're showering in here and you take a bath in here and just kind of becomes a very spa-like experience I know that was one of the things you mentioned Amy is that you want to feel spa-like and I feel the after pictures of this bathroom are very spa-like I also kind of love this idea because I know she had kids and everything I was like mom being able to go into the wet room close that glass or listen to whatever she wants if she's watching tv or if she's reading a book or whatever but you would really feel secluded and quiet and like this is your sanctuary while you're taking a bath or a shower and then you get a huge experience for both you get the huge shower and then the tub is sitting in this big huge marble clad room it's so gorgeous i feel very like sauna steam shower about it too because i'm like you could potentially get that shower going get that whole steamy action happening and then go take a bath.

19:30I'm like, there's nothing more lovely. And I'd say since then, we've done a couple of wet rooms. It's become a really nice solution for folks. I'm going to say this too for kids. I wish I would have done it in my bathroom, my primary, because I'll be getting ready for church, and that's when my kids want to take a bath, and they're just making a mess of everything, and I wish that was contained. So for that fact too, yeah. Hot tip, hot tip. Great solution. Yes. Have you ever given a gift that's instantly become someone favorite. The one that they can't stop using, I'm here to tell you, the bubble cuddle blanket is on my list.

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21:14And then I think having that glass here is really, really nice. Again, to share the light. For your flooring, I will say I'm like for most primary baths, say like probably 100 % of them we're using just a natural stone we're using marble because and I know that like we love tile and we'll do interesting patterns with it and you can kind of see what we did here on the floor on the screen but that value I think of just like it's your bathroom it's the you know master of the home you want to use the marble like I think it's the thing that just like makes it look the most luxe it just signals this is the primary bathroom I think We'll definitely, we'll utilize ceramic porcelain tiles or kids baths, secondary baths.

21:57But usually those primary and the powder baths are where people go for it per square foot. And you can get good prices in marble tile today. So you don't necessarily have to break the bank, but there's something about a living finish that just does feel more luxurious. It's not playful. It's just really, really luxurious. and having the I think the stones that pair well together between your vanities and your floors it just feels chic and hotel-like and spa-like and yeah it just adds a ton a ton of value yeah to the home and when you do like the large format like the 12 by 24s and things of like any tight ground like that makes it feel like almost like a slab a monolith a stone happening in the space which is really luxy so super luxy love that this is the place you're going to splurge guys go for it yep okay okay so that is the grantor estate bathroom i think really successful especially if you're working on a historic okay now we want to take you into the tiger oak primary bath okay so this was a new build but they want they loved a historic home so they wanted to have charming details and a lot of you know just a lot of these you know living finishes and again profiles happening and so let's talk about the storage really quick on their vanity again you can look at this on the screen you can also like reference the whole place on our portfolio under tiger oak but one thing when we were laying out this bathroom specifically the vanities they had the architect had drawn two sinks which you see on majority of plans for a primary bath his and hers station and when we were talking to the client she's like i have a lot of product i have a lot of things i like want vanity space and we just started thinking they had this really like a window which is also lovely you can have that same situation in your bathroom where you have a window in the middle and we just started thinking you know what if we gave her more vanity space and omitted one of those sinks that would like so much space back and really you guys you don't need to be standing in front of the mirror to brush your teeth nor does your partner and you don't need to see each other doing that so having the sink we actually placed this like large integrated stone sink in front of the window and i can't think of like it's the loveliest view to be able to look up at the sky and just to have that whole situation and then to gain all that vanity space back and the vanity you know where you do have the wall space is sitting you know where your mirror is which is key and if you have your stuff laid out too that's like my it's like everything is surrounding my sink so it's like then you can have it right in front of you you're following in the middle of where you get ready so this is like this trick had to be told on transform your bathroom expert expert design tricks nobody's going to dare not put a sink in their vanity but this bathroom is is absolutely proof positive that you can do it you can a go for it on the sink in front of the window right so this is the integrated marble sink everything's marble they use double faucets it's so grand and then you've just never seen before two blank vanities all that counter space with a mirror in front of it and you can just get ready there all your products you don't have to dodge the hole in the sink this is such a great solution and i think amy for a historic home i know you're probably short on space right because things were smaller back then and so you could get away in a primary bath with one sink two vanities and do this trick yes it is a little bit it's a larger sink than you would typically have just any regular vanity but yeah just making sure i said that i know for sure no we have two wall-mounted faucets that are like sitting with this integrated sink so just so you know it's not just one faucet that you're sharing they still have both they each have a faucet which is great and again on your actual slab like make sure i remember we had something completely different specified for this like for the actual slab and we went slab shopping with the client and she just like she saw it and she's like that's it it was this tourmaline and it's this quartz and it's beautiful it's so so pretty and that that changed our window treatment that changed everything because we wanted it all to just feel so intentional because she had such a love affair with this slab right so anyway just really fall in love with your surfaces because you get to like live with this every day.

26:05This is where you start and you end your day. Yeah, I would say like go to the slab yard and say I want that slab, not just like this stone because they're all going to be a little bit different, have different patterning and stuff in them. So yeah, if you can go pick the one that you want, I feel like that's ideal. Totally. And speaking of tourmaline and finishes that you're choosing, since Amy, you wanted to know about that, you can see tourmaline in this image. That's the slab choice. it's the hero and then when you're trying to figure out your paint color for your vanity you're going to spread your paint deck out on that slab and you're going to choose the right color that gets along well with that field color of the stone and you can see this isn't your basic white cabinetry here this has a lot of like really beauty beautiful like ivory off-white earthen kind of natural tones within within the off-white range and it feels more antique it looks great with the stone it's great with the vibe so anyway that's another pro tip when you're designing your bath i love that i also i know this is one of your favorite kind of door styles mine too and i think it makes a space look bigger because you don't have those lines like we're talking about cabinetry style door style and a lot of a lot of times you'll see like everyone's familiar with like a shaker where you have you know the styles styles right anyway and they're usually like three inches you know or something and they're coming in and it just like shrinks that whole box visually and just you have this in your kitchen I know we do it on so many projects where you just have this like little trim piece that basically just borders out that frame of the drawer am I saying all these things correctly yeah yes it's a pencil that just basically is mitered around like that drawer front or door front it sort of softens it or gives it like a cushion feel it almost modernizes it in some ways but it does give that box or drawer like this really grand feeling and it's not too much vibrato um i just think it looks chic wherever you use it and then you can use the pencil mold on the interior of that rail if you're going to do it on the doors like we did here yep i think also your hardware you have more flexibility yes with your hardware if you're not shrinking that panel interior panel so that's always lovely and then you can like actually choose like where you want that handle to to be placed instead of being forced to like sliver it totally in that center small panel you've seen the ones yeah we have the worst yes I'm gonna point out the molded toe kick on this too oh yes please thank you so glad you noticed that yeah that was a workshop I feel like that just gives it a lot of detail and it feels more like cut like it's been there forever type of thing rather than you know stocked yes and installed so uh yeah built for the room basically yeah uh so yeah um and it's basically just like where the feet would be it's kind of scalloped up still gives you a toe kick which I think is great so you can you know get up on that cabinet but yeah a lot of detail that like I said just kind of feels built for that room yeah Jess this is a where we did do the mirror as like that whole yeah we paneled out that whole mirror so you kind of frame it in give it like intention and placement for where the mirror goes if it's just floating sometimes you're just like in a corner where you're just like, I'm going to go mirror wall to wall, backsplash to ceiling.

29:18And it's a really easy equation here. You can see there was additional planning to really make this a very intentional move. So basically there's just like finish, there's like finish work on the, the entirety of the wall in the bathroom and inside one of those panels, it's all mirror, which I think is like genius because then you can continue the rhythm elsewhere. The rhythm continues with that window. So on both sides, the finished work kind of continues the full length of the bathroom, even to where the tub deck is. And it's this great wall of finish work and then integrated into it is the mirrors and the windows, but then the rhythm continues, which is really great.

29:55And then the sconces don't sit on those rails of finish work. They sit within on top of the mirror to double the amount of light that you get, which is that designer trick that we love. So really a ton of designer tricks that you're looking at here, which is, you know, the finish work with the integrated mirrors, the sconce mounted on the mirrors. And then another favorite one is space expanding trick is diagonal lines are going to make your space feel bigger so on the floor here we're using marble is it are we two different ones yeah two different marbles it's kind of an off-white black a crema and then there's like probably antico scuro yeah for the two marbles that we used yeah so spell that no i'm kidding i'm actually good i've written it i've written it down so many times the little um the little we call it miter on the corner the way that those are cut like little X's.

30:42This turned out so great. The installation's really beautiful. And that pattern is, it's so, it's like so this house. I love it. But the strong black and white also feels classic. Yes. So I'm just going to comment to that right there. That is the real way to miter those in. So basically it's like a diamond pattern. The outline of the diamond is the darker marble tile for those of you listening. And then rather than just those diamond cuts coming together and just butt joining, they're all mitered at a 45 degrees. So they come, each four pieces come to a point that connect together. So it looks like an X detail.

31:18So again, like, even though they're subtle lines, the fabrication of that makes it look like a designer handbag. When you see like the stitching and things like that, these details matter. And all it takes is for you to inform the installator, like the installer, the installer, say installator, I'm going to put that into the into the dictionary. Anyway, the installer, like if you tell them, this is how I want to be installed. If there's like a way, you know, they'll, they won't have to take shortcuts. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it is more cuts. It'll probably cost you a little bit, but I think you're going to love it in the long run.

31:49Yeah. Okay. Another favorite trick that we employed the very first time in Tiger Rogue was in the potty closet. Um, they're usually like toilet paper sitting on the floor. If you don't have an ediger or there's like a tampon box or something. She's like, I hate, I hate seeing that. We're like, well, let's figure out a way to solve for that. And so we worked with the builder to make sure that we had enough room to frame a little hidden tampon closet for like one roll of toilet paper and a box of feminine products. And we do this in majority of our projects now when we're able to, because it's just so nice to be able to tuck that away.

32:25So that is a really hot tip that everyone listening to my words right now, if you can put it in your product closet, it'll save your marriage. It'll save your anxiety. You won't see any of those foresting boxes ever again. I love it. So happy for you. So what you're going to do is you're going to leave room in the framing for this little closet, if you will. The door that they used on this, it's not a jip door, is it? Because they did wallpaper over it. And then there's a little pull tab where you can open it. So is it a jip door or is it a, like, do you know what material they used? I think it's probably just a smooth jip.

33:00Yeah. That would be like the easiest thing to do. And then you wouldn't notice like any inconsistency in the texture from the wall to the door. And what hinges do you think they use to accomplish that? Like an interior. So you'd want the hinge on the inside of the door. So it's like an interior outswing hinge. So it's like some sort of piano hinge or something like that. So it's envisioning. Yeah. So great. And then they finish the interior. And that's just your little secret. It's so enchanting. You want to look in there. like you cannot believe it's so cute and I'd be sad if it was you could do a push latch but I kind of love the idea of like just how we usually do like a petite darling little knob so like the user doesn't think it's like for like venting or something like it's to be used it's to be opened and I'll say if you are wallpapering the potty closet you're going to want to start with this panel because you can see here our paper installer he centered the jaguar on this little closet door um it would have been a bummer if it was like cutting half jack cutting off the head or something like that so just pro tip if you're going to do this okay great okay and then again we put the tub actually on this platform just to kind of give some lovely yeah again just to kind of raise it off so you have that diagonal flooring that jess was kind of detailing earlier um throughout the whole bathroom and then we actually like lifted a platform for the tub that's like really nice and tucked in there.