In short
Nuclear power and nuclear disasters, plus tangents on collectibles (Pokemon cards), spending (DoorDash), and “nuclear” pronunciation.
Guests
The episode is hosted by Bill Simmons and co-hosts Mark and Bob (Distractable regulars). No other guests are introduced in the transcript.
Guest backgrounds
Bill Simmons is the podcast host (sports/media personality). Mark and Bob are long-running co-hosts on Distractable, known for comedic banter and pop-culture/science tangents.
Key claims
Nuclear accidents stem from overlapping failures (“Swiss cheese of failure”); Chernobyl involved test mismanagement, safety rod issues (graphite-tipped control rods), and cost-cutting; Fukushima’s disaster followed earthquake/tsunami damage that disabled cooling and power, leading to hydrogen buildup; nuclear power is debated as safer overall but still vulnerable to preventable design/management failures. Thorium molten-salt reactors face technical hurdles (neutron/fuel-cycle complications, corrosion, regulation).
Notable examples
Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, Fukushima; control rods/kill switch concepts; Ryobi “nuclear” branding jokes; “nuclear” vs “nucular” pronunciation debate.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Stage
1:41 to 1:51
Hosts welcome listeners and set the tone for the episode.
“Now sit back and prepare to be distracted.”
Catching Up: Small Talk
1:51 to 4:24
The hosts share personal anecdotes and small talk after a break.
“And I'm joined as always by my co-host, Mark and Bob.”
Collecting Cards: A New Hobby
4:24 to 5:15
Wade discusses his recent foray into collecting Pokémon cards.
“He was like, your magenta might be between your patellar bowflex.”
The World of Pokémon Cards
5:15 to 9:20
Detailed discussion about Pokémon cards, their value, and collecting culture.
“We went to some retro game stores and stuff where they have figurines and video games.”
Scalpers and Card Values
9:20 to 13:16
Examining the impact of scalpers on the Pokémon card market.
“Listeners and viewers alike will have to figure that one out for themselves.”
Market Dynamics and Controversies
13:16 to 14:00
Discussion on how companies like GameStop respond to scalpers and market trends.
“Is because people are like People want this?”
Inflation in Collectibles and Delivery Spending
14:00 to 17:45
Discussing the rising costs in collectibles and the surprising amount spent on food deliveries.
“Yeah, that's the thing is like a lot of the retail, it's still high.”
Transition to Nuclear Discussion
17:45 to 18:08
Transitioning from personal anecdotes to the topic of nuclear energy.
“And segue, I want to talk about us going nuclear.”
Chernobyl Disaster Overview
18:08 to 22:24
Explaining the Chernobyl disaster, the causes, and its consequences.
“Let's start with countries that I hate the most.”
Other Nuclear Incidents
22:24 to 23:04
Briefly discussing other nuclear incidents like Three Mile Island and Fukushima.
“There was a thing at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in the 70s, and then there was Fukushima back in like, what was it, 2011?”
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Other Nuclear Incidents
23:07 to 23:33
Briefly discussing other nuclear incidents like Three Mile Island and Fukushima.
“Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.”
Nuclear Power Discussion
23:33 to 26:38
Debating the safety and future of nuclear power, including humorous takes on branding.
“Anyone that's got cheese in their holes, you deserve to be nuked.”
The Future of 3D Printing and Nuclear Power
28:00 to 28:46
Discussion on the potential of nuclear-powered 3D printing and recent developments in thorium reactors.
Understanding Thorium Reactors
28:47 to 30:22
Exploration of thorium reactors, their safety, and practical challenges.
“power plants is nuclear power the way in a serious space the there's been developments i don't know what it is but there's been developments in thorium reactors uh i haven't checked up on it in thorium salt reactors.”
Nuclear Pronunciation Debate
30:23 to 32:51
A light-hearted debate on the pronunciation of 'nuclear' and its implications.
Fan Encounters and Misunderstandings
32:52 to 35:18
Story about a fan encounter and humorous misconceptions about height.
“And until we get there again, I don't think that any of us can complain too much.”
Height Expectations and Roller Coaster Experiences
35:19 to 36:48
Discussion on the challenges of being tall on roller coasters and the public's perception.
“And the person responded, I'm 5 '9 and my friend is around the same height.”
Coping with Roller Coaster Fitting
36:49 to 42:00
A humorous account of fitting into roller coaster seats and the societal expectations around size.
“And no one understands how gigantic you both are.”
Awkward Roller Coaster Experience
42:00 to 44:30
A humorous recount of a challenging roller coaster experience and its unexpected recognition moment.
“And the way they build roller coasters, of course, they can't just unbuckle me and be like, all right, you off.”
Struggles with Roller Coaster Restraints
44:30 to 47:28
Discussion on the physical challenges and discomforts of roller coaster restraints for larger individuals.
“When you're big, like it goes all like it's in your gut.”
Historical Perspectives on Expedition Disasters
47:28 to 50:35
Exploring the Diatlov Pass incident and the tragic outcomes of historical expeditions due to environmental factors.
“And the answer shockingly isn't die immediately I figure away You figure away?”
Microplastics and Environmental Concerns
50:35 to 54:02
A lighthearted discussion on the prevalence of microplastics and environmental awareness, leading to humorous anecdotes.
“I've been so disheartened because when I get my trash collected, I see them pick up the garbage can, throw it in the back, and then I see them pick up the recycling can, throw it in the same spot, and I go, oh, man.”
The Mysteries of Microwaves
56:02 to 58:26
Explore the unknowns of microwave technology and food preparation.
“I know as a completely ignorant non-scientist myself, how the fuck do we have things that are so ubiquitous that we don't understand the technology?”
Nuclear Power: Safety and Waste
58:27 to 1:00:01
Discuss the safety of modern nuclear technology and its waste management.
“Air fryer's basically just an oven with a fan.”
Humorous Thoughts on Nuclear Waste
1:00:02 to 1:02:35
Light-hearted commentary on nuclear waste disposal ideas and their implications.
“Alright, well that's nuclear power everyone.”
Airport Security Stories
1:02:36 to 1:04:44
A funny recount of an unusual airport security experience involving nuclear detectors.
“Did I tell when I went from Poland to back to America and we were in line for the security?”
Bounties and Points Game
1:04:45 to 1:08:24
Discussion about point systems and bounties introduced in the podcast.
“Kept it in a baby papoose, just like it's just cards all the way down.”
Rules and Interruptions
1:10:00 to 1:10:21
Discussion about the game rules and interruptions during the episode.
“I think whenever one of the competitors is talking, the other person interrupts a bunch, because that's kind of what I do.”
Small Talk and Relationships
1:10:21 to 1:10:44
Hosts reflect on their significant others and small talk dynamics.
“Yeah, probably forget it by the time we record the next one.”
Game Scores and Loser Speech
1:10:44 to 1:11:52
Recap of game scores and the humorous loser speech by the competitor.
“If you can't win, it's me because you're not the winner or the loser.”
Winning and Humility
1:11:52 to 1:13:15
Mark reflects on his win with humor and philosophical musings.
“Today, it's just the truth of everything.”
Farewell and Social Media
1:13:15 to 1:13:40
Hosts sign off and promote their social media accounts.
Transcript
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1:36Yes! It's time for... Going Nuclear. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted. And enjoy the show. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Distractable. I'm today's host. I don't do this very often anymore. why I've fallen off. But today I do. And I'm joined as always by my co-host, Mark and Bob. Hello. Hello. How are you doing, you handsome devil? I'm doing pretty good. Had a good week that I'll talk about later. You delightful demon. Stop. You smart spawn of Satan. I think that was still technically a compliment, maybe. I don't know. I'm going to write something down. It might be good.
2:22If it feels good, isn't it good? They say that Satan was the most beautiful of all the angels. They specify that, I think. That's biblical. I'm pretty sure it's biblical. I believe you. And on the fifth day, God looked at Satan and said, damn. I might be going to hell for that joke alone. To see Satan, right? For yourself. Just to know what it's all about. That's why he took the seventh day off. You know what I mean? It was a bad breakup. That's what caused the fall. It's, you know, it's like, you know, history by the victors. God just writing Satan's such an asshole God really wrote the first Taylor Swift album He's gonna be in hell where evil people go and I made that it's not his choice.
3:08It's mine Trump's speech
3:15And I made that and that's how it's always been I have a blank cage baby, and I'll put you in that was funny anyway this is a show we host we could do game we small talk small talk i got small talk you guys have small talk i got small talk i got small talk small talk who first small talk you go first me yeah if you use it up now you won't get any points in the future where to be i've got to be careful or else i might give myself the segue point well i've been gone we haven't seen each other in a couple of weeks because I was out of town. Molly and I went on a trip to Virginia, hung out with some friends.
3:54It was a really nice needed break. However, we did a lot, which is also fun. But that's that thing where you go on vacation, you come back, you're like, oh, I'm so tired. I need like a week to recover from a vacation. Classic mistake. But it was really fun. We had a lot of good food, had some pool time. I got to test my knee a little bit, which is better. I still have moments where it doesn't really hurt, but it just feels... Something is still weird about it. Tyler had some theories on that because we got to see Tyler, too. He's had some knee stuff going on, so I might go get some imaging done to see.
4:24I forget what he said. He was like, your magenta might be between your patellar bowflex. And I was like, oh, that sounds right. Tell your doctor exactly that. My magenta is between my patellar and my bowflex. You'll say it, and the doctor will be like, hmm. But then say, no, no, Tyler told me that. And the doctor would be like, oh, Tyler. Yeah, Tyler. From hit podcast go my favorite sports team. That's the one, dog. Oh, my God. And then he starts going cross-eyed and talking in an action. He's like, yeah, you're magenta, real patellarized. I hate when my doctor goes hills of Tennessee accent. No, you love when your doctor does that.
5:03I love when my doctor goes hills of Tennessee accent. Accent? Accident. No, accent. Accident's different. Hills of Tennessee accident. Oh, what else? Oh, the real horrible tragedy of what happened in Virginia. We went to some retro game stores and stuff where they have figurines and video games. And we were looking around at those kinds of things. They had cards and Tyler and Bird, I guess, had been collecting different collectible cards. There's all kinds now. There's Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic, Pokemon, One Piece. I guess everything has a card set now. I used to collect Pokemon cards back in the 90s. I made the mistake of mentioning that.
5:36And the guys were like, do you want to just buy a pack for old time's sake? I was like guys that's probably a bad idea when I listen I don't dip my toe into things if I go in I dive in headfirst that I'm I'm all in like oh come on one pack it won't be that bad four thousand dollars later Wade has a stack of valueless Pokemon cards in his closet only two two thousand yes holy shit whoa what did you do i bought a lot of cards oh my god did you get a single good one that was worth anything yeah actually so so i started going in on prismatic evolution and chaos rising sets what does that even mean what does that mean you know what that means prismatic evolution and chaos rising please people who know know if you don't know i'm not Listen, every six months, a new Pokemon set comes out, it feels like, or something.
6:33What the hell is this chaos? What am I looking at? So back whenever I collected cards, there was the base set of Pokemon, right? Where you just had the... There was no symbols. There was no... It was just... That was the only Pokemon cards that existed. The first six Pokemon, yes. Then came the Jungle, Fossil, and Rocket sets. And then I guess some like Gym Leader set came after. I don't know. I stopped sometime during the Rocket Pokemon card release that came after. I think Fossil was the third one. And that's the last I'd collected cards since whatever year that was, 2000. So I've seen that cards exist and people collect them.
7:06I've seen that if you have a pack of cards unopened from the 90s, the first set, the pack itself unopened goes for like$600,$700 because it could contain something crazy. If you have a box from back then, a box of packs, that can go for like$40 ,000. dollars it's crazy what you can just if you just buy something and you do the wade version of just stash it away my god one day it might be worth something just imagine if nine-year-old me was enough of a sociopath to not open any pokemon card packs i ever got while i was a child so i do have a full base set but mine are played so mine aren't worth as much as a lot of them would be whatever i do have a full base set and maybe i don't know i'd have to look but anyway i've gotten i've gone into the deep end of pokemon cards which is why you i don't i don't do hobbies i I don't just like dabble.
7:56I'm like, mobile game? Must have every character. Pokemon cards? Must master set. What happened to like reading? Or like you could whittle? You seem like a guy who would whittle. You strike me as a whittler. He does got whittle vibes, don't he? I could see you on a porch in the Appalachians. Is it cedar that has like the purple center of the wood? I think that's patchouli. No, what's that called? Pipipu. No, hang on. it's the people would yes yes yes uh yeah it's purple cedar purple cedar yeah yeah so i think whenever i was young i had a pocket knife and my whittling of cedar was literally just like aha i'll go in a circle for hours smaller now i did it grandpa look i thought whittling was distinct from carving because when you whittle you kind of are just fucking up the wood like you're kind of just like you know get rid of this stupid wood one tiny shred at a time i'm whittling.
8:53I don't know. I was like 10 and that's what I did. And that's the last that I was probably I don't know. I have no idea. I was somewhere between the ages of nine and 13, probably. I don't know. Wait, I'm going to share you something on Discord. And you know, we don't we don't talk about further, but I think it's going to earn me some points. So I'm just going to share this with you. If you look up purple cedar, you know, there's a there's a video and I think that earns me some points, right?
9:20So, should I describe the image? No, you don't need to describe it. You don't need to describe it. We don't need to talk about it. We don't need to talk about it. Listeners and viewers alike will have to figure that one out for themselves. What was I talking about? Whittling Pokemon cards? Yeah, so I've started collecting. A little distracted. Feeling distracted, man. Yeah, Cedar. It was just like that whenever I whittled it. I won't describe the image, but it was just like that. Yeah, I've started collecting. there's so many cards and it feels like so each card will have a number right it'll be like if there's 80 cards it'll be like oh you have card 37 out of 80 but apparently now it's a lie because it goes past the number if you get the rarer cards like oh you have card 97 out of 80 and it's like what the hell is that what's the good in that i don't know just like just tell me numbers have meaning i agree just tell me how many cards are total in the set so i know if i got them all so I can put them in a nice order and know.
10:14Don't tell me I've got like, oh, card one is this nice hollow, but card 140 out of 80 is this full art rare gold. I hate it so much. I hate it so much. God. Now that you're in that, I know you're not like an expert because you just started doing it. Can I just ask, do people do that? Do people get into Pokemon because it's like, oh, well, this specific set appeals to, or is it literally like, oh, the value on these packs is trending up and there's a card you could get there's a pull you could get from this set that's worth like 800 is it money or is it because when i look i'm like well it's cool but how how do you care about a thing where they just keep adding shit to it and they keep getting more complex is it really sentimental for people i don't know it just seems crazy to me i think the answer is both i think some people genuinely just enjoy collecting and like the cards and like pokemon i think the way that it's actually happening now is scalpers are running so rampant that the moment something launches, a lot of places limit how much you can buy because people buy all of the stock up, no matter the price, they buy it all up.
11:20$80 a box, I'll take 100 boxes. And then they immediately list it for 400 % markup on eBay, other sites. So like, hey, this box that came out today for an$80 retail price,$450, it's yours. And that's how all of it is done now. So a lot of places like i've gone to some local card shops around cincinnati mom and i went out yesterday and just had lunch and stopped by a couple and a lot of them had limits like you can only buy six packs you can only buy one box and it's like actually i respect that because that means like you know if kids come in and want to buy it at least there's a chance that they could get something but each set also has cards that are worth you know they call them bulk they're like worthless cards i guess to me it's cool because that's like if i want a master set i want one of each card from a set right but people go for the chase cards which are ones they put in like the harder cases.
12:07They're called top loaders I've learned. I think all of them are. Maybe there's other ones that aren't, but they have like the sleeves are flimsy. Then you top load that for your really valuable cards. We pulled one that was like a Sylveon from the Prismatic Evolution. It's apparently like a$200 to$400 card ungraded. So that was a great pull. I pulled that. That was great. Apparently Bird pulled it, but it was mine. And that's cool to see stuff like that, but for me, it's just, I don't plan on like selling them. So for me, it's like I'm going to collect them and I want to have like a set. I just want to have that set together like I did however long ago.
12:39And I hope I don't try to get every set, especially the old ones, because my God, the cost is insane. There's like a Latios Latios. If you guys know those two legendaries, they're like jet plane looking birds from Gen 3. There's a card where they form a heart with their heads and their neck. The cheapest I could even see that card in existence, I wasn't looking to buy. Just someone who told me it was expensive. I was like, how expensive could it be? The cheapest one I could find was$2 ,000 for one piece of cardboard. I better start printing stuff on pieces of cardboard See what happens You guys want to make some distractible collectible cards?
13:10That's apparently a crazy industry Might as well But yeah scalpers have The reason everything is so crazily priced Is because people are like People want this? What if I hoard this and raise price? Because they're fucking monsters Scalpers are monsters But I mean it is just crazy How the way that people think about the money And it just destroys anything But it's worse when the companies lean into it I feel like there's a lot from the Pokemon company that's probably like very happy that a lot of people are trying to fight for the value of this. And, you know, then they can raise their own prices and then they're going to.
13:44Yeah, well, that's probably that's really funny, though, because like they see this and they're like, oh, yeah, people fucking love these things. We got to make more. It's like, yeah, you're selling them for$80 a box or whatever. And then someone sells what's in that box for$5 ,000 and you don't see any of that shit. Yeah, that's the thing is like a lot of the retail, it's still high. I don't know what a pack comes out to typically now, maybe like six to eight dollars a pack or something, maybe more. But like whenever we were collecting, I say we, whenever I was collecting back in the 90s, it was like literally$2.99 or$3.99 for a single pack.
14:16Yeah, well, I used to do magic when I was in like middle school, high school, magic gathering. And I, it was like two or three bucks for a booster back then. So you could go, go to the local store, grab a few boosters for like eight or 10 bucks, maybe have a good time. open some packs get nothing now it's higher the base value but you're never going to find base value anywhere uh gamestop just got uh in well i wouldn't say in trouble but there was a lot of controversy around games gamestop because they themselves raised prices rather than waiting for scalpers they were like what if we just charge more i don't know how much they went up people a lot of people were upset some people defended it some people were upset about it whatever but like they were just like why let scalpers raise the price when we can it's the dynamics of the market you know we the Strait of Hormuz is closed immediately raised prices are it's open let's hold off let's not lower them just yet can't push it back down you don't know if the prices are gonna go back down which we control in the end kept getting closed again so I guess I guess there maybe there's some logic in that but no you know it's weird it's just a little weird I also had a really speaking of spending lots of money you guys god I'm ashamed to admit this what's going on with you alright DoorDash.
15:27I've used DoorDash a lot. So for six years, I've been using their subscription service for deliveries. And they were like, here's how much you've saved over the last six years by using DoorDash. That's rude. That's just rude. Do you have any idea what that number was? Five figure? Is this five-figure number? $60 ,000. Jesus. I don't know. You eat a lot of food. You've eaten a lot. And that goes on back to COVID where it was like, there were periods during lockdowns and shit where it was like, if you didn't have groceries, what are you supposed to do? It was$13 ,900. I knew it was five figures.
16:04I knew it was five figures. I saved$13 ,900 on deliveries over six years. You saved. Listeners, I'm doing air quotes. And please put in a sound effect for my air quotes. Did it have the total that you've spent accompanying that? or was it just like thank god if it did i didn't see it i only saw the savings what i've saved on fees delivery and whatever else that you know the 18 000 charges you get good lord in five years i would bet i don't think it's six figures i bet it's not over 100 000 but i bet it's pretty up there i mean if you think about having a meal delivered probably on average one to two times not two times a day but probably at least once a day part of that too is you feed a lot of people I feel like a lot of the times DoorDash it's like well we have guests In town and we need food and we don't want to bring A party of 10 people to a restaurant Necessarily or whatever and I'm not Cooking for my friends All my money is going to Pokemon cards And DoorDash so half of it is definitely Wade eating Freddy's while we're filming Distractable I haven't had that in a minute that sounds good I haven't had lunch yet thanks man He's gonna order now he's gonna order some Freddy's For while we record yeah wait they have Pokemon Cards too you can DoorDash Pokemon bunkers i don't know i don't please don't let me look at that i don't want to know all right that's my small talk i've taken a feed and i had an episode too well we'll see how it goes you did it this time it wasn't even us i did i had a lot to talk about we could skip it i also have a lot to talk about we could save it for the next episode if you just want to go straight on give yourself the small talk point and the segue point man you're in the lead you're doing so good i am all the small talk of my own episode i'm such a rude ass that's why i don't get to host anymore You're such a rude ass.
17:44Another thing I did while traveling because I didn't have a book with me is I watched a show that I hadn't seen about it. I've been interested in watching. I watched Chernobyl on HBO Max. Great show. Fantastic show. And segue, I want to talk about us going nuclear. Today's episode is all about nuclear. Okay. All right. Who would I nuke? Let's start with countries that I hate the most. I meant power, but you can nuke if you want Oh! Oh, power, oh What are we doing, sports teams, individuals, institutions? What are we nuking? Mark's like, wait, is Sour Patch Kids a country?
18:25I learned that the one episode, I haven't forgotten I say we nuke the moon Take that A, James What would he photograph then? He would get the prettiest picture of, like, the nuke exploding the moon I have a new calendar called the end of the moon. It was just a sequence of Mark nuking the moon to bits. How many nukes would it take to destroy the moon? I don't know, Mr. Owl. Why don't you show us? A one, a two. That's a different commercial. The way that for everyone out there, nuclear stuff at least worked back then was you had like fuel rods, nuclear fuel rods. They would react and their reaction would produce heat.
19:08heat would boil water water turns into steam steam creates power and that's how it was supposed to work and then you have these control rods that are supposed to go into the nuclear reactor that stop or slow down the reaction that was your emergency brakes this guy watches one mini series knows how nukes work well it's a simple that's a pretty it's a simple it's a simple science that's such a simple breakdown of a very complicated process like that's baby's description of nuclear power. All right, comrade Legasov. In Chernobyl, a lot of things went wrong. For one, they were supposed to be doing a test.
19:42Then someone was like, hey, actually, we need more power for the day. Can you guys just... So they'd gone into low power mode. And they were like, all right, we're going to run this test. And someone made the call like, actually, can you put the test off for 12 hours? And they're like, yes, because here we only say yes. So the nuclear power plant stayed in low power mode all day, which is not good for it. It was building up like xenon gas and other stuff that wasn't great for the reactor because it wasn't running at full power it wasn't burning away as usual when they went to run the test they were like huh some of this shit doesn't look right and the guy running the test was like nah it's fine trust me i'm an expert night shift had never been prepared for the tests they'd never learned how to do them they hadn't studied them they were just like hey is this a good idea all these things say not to do it and the guy in charge is like yeah yeah but i'm the expert do it i want this promotion do it so they do all these things to run the test and then the nuclear reactor they're supposed to stop, I think, at like 700, I don't know, kilowatts or whatever it was of power.
20:37And then the reactor's like, oh, I'm still going down. I'm still going down. Power basically goes all the way down. And the way that they decided to bring power back up was removing some of those safety rods. They're like, oh, let's pull these control rods out. That way they're not stopping the nuclear reaction. Nuclear reaction can go, we'll get our power back. And it did. But all of a sudden there were no, I think it was down to like 18 out of what, 250 control rods. Only 18 were left inside and the nuclear reaction was like hey there's nothing stopping me i'm let's fucking go crazy yo ultimately as the numbers started shooting up there was a kill switch i forget what it was called there was a name for it but they hit the kill switch like all right put all the new the rods back in we're shutting this down finally um however there was a flaw in the design of the nuclear control rods in order to save money they had graphite tipped control rods instead of whatever it was supposed to be i don't know what the alternative was but the graphite itself, whenever inserted into the core, has a temporary moment of actually increasing the reaction rather than decreasing.
21:39So even though the rod itself is supposed to stop it, the moment all those graphite tips went in, it was basically like a bunch of lighters at a gas station, just like, what if we just light a bunch of fires here real quick? And then reactor go boom, and meltdown happened, radiation leaked. Some disasters were actually prevented that could have been a lot worse at Chernobyl, but I think it's still responsible for at least four to nine thousand deaths, plus who knows how many cancers and so on and so forth. But those are the basics of Chernobyl. However, the kill switch in theory should have worked if government wasn't cheap and didn't say, well, what are the odds of the graphite tip things causing a problem?
22:18All these things have to go wrong for it to be bad. And then it was and it did and so on and so forth. The only other nuclear things of problems I know about. There was a thing at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in the 70s, and then there was Fukushima back in like, what was it, 2011? Those are the only other ones I personally know about. I don't know what caused the issues at Three Mile. I've not looked into that one. Fukushima, there was like a magnitude nine earthquake, and then a tsunami went over the protective wall, hit the power plant, drowned the steam engines, took away any ability for power to keep water cooling the reactors.
22:53And since it was being hit with seawater, all of the power was gone. They were doing all kinds of shit to try to get power to these reactors. They couldn't do it fast enough. And then boom, boom, boom, boom from hydrogen buildup and so on and so forth. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give chat gpt work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets slides and structured reports get started at chat gpt.com by selecting work mode available on plus and pro plans they called a swiss cheese of failure i didn't know that is that true you know about the term swiss cheese of failure i did not it's like if you line up slices of swiss cheese from say a different cheese block there's not much chance that you're going to get a hole that goes all the way through but every once in a while in rare circumstances we line up enough swiss cheese slices there's going to be one that series of swiss cheese that has a hole that goes all the way through and that's the swiss cheese of failure it's rare chances need to overlap for it to happen so i only eat american cheese i think we found our first country we need to nuke which is the subject of this episode and their shitty cheese and any other country that has holes with holes with cheese in them cheese with holes them holes with cheese around them.
24:17Anyone that's got cheese in their holes, you deserve to be nuked. I think I speak for everyone here. That's the official stance of distractible hosted by Wade. He's the leader of this operation. Oh God. Keep cheese out of your holes. Keep holes out of your cheese, everyone. That's today's PSA. And we're going to have regular hole inspections to make sure those holes aren't cheesy. Please don't ask me to inspect your holes. Wade's going to do it. I don't want to. I really don't. I don't want a cavity search for cheese. no no no no not cavity search hole search what we're talking about nuclear nuclear power oh those are what i know about you guys are welcome to describe three mile if you know what happened at three mile but ultimately there's still a huge debate about whether or not nuclear power is safe from what i can tell fukushima sounded like a pretty freak accident but there were still some cutting cost things that went into effect that led to it being a disaster chernobyl if they'd had the right kind of control rods in place.
25:13Yeah, the fucking idiot running the thing was going to cause a disaster, but the shut off button still should have shut off. Both of those things I think should in theory still have been preventable. Fukushima I'm a little bit less of a I'm a little bit less knowledgeable about other than the basics I already described, but a lot of people still argue that nuclear power is still safer and still has less of a death toll. I've got it, and I've got the perfect company to do. I know what you're asking us. You don't even need to explain it anymore. Ryobi nuclear batteries. I think the entire Ryobi line could be souped up.
25:44It's already green. It's already green. It's already green. Nothing greener than nuke. Leer. That's what I say. I love the catchphrase. You pick up the drill and it's like, nothing greener than, and it's just like a mushroom cloud. I love it when my mushroom clouds are green. That's when you know they're good. That's a Ryobi branding on there. Ryobi, call me. I'm going to get so many sponsors by the end of this year. I'm going to be so sponsored. Nuclear power? Ryobi? Go, well, no, GoPro's probably chosen Bob already. We'll get to go for nuclear GoPros would be also be awesome. But I think if a Ryobi chainsaw that's nuclear powered, instead of like revving or whirring, it's like just the clicks from a Geiger counter.
26:23And so you just like the radiation goes up. Get your new Ryobi brushless nuclear drill with new Ryobi's new 1.21 gigawatt nuclear powered four amp hour battery. Your tool will be powered for slightly longer than on the old ones. the best of the best right this is what you wanted out of this episode right oh yeah I mean imagine like has ever had like a little flower bed outside and like weeds keep popping up and it's so annoying like but imagine your nuclear spray that just keeps the weeds gone forever well that's just because it'll kill you allegedly allegedly allegedly there's nuclear maybe yes Sam, maybe...
27:10Protect me. Protect me from myself. Protect us from our brand slander. Protect us, Ryobi. Come on. I'm the Joker, but with lawsuits. Come on, sue me. Sue me, I want you to do it. I'm like a dog biting mailman. I just keep getting more lawsuits. I keep chasing sponsors. I wouldn't know what if I actually got one. What would I do? I would do what I did with Prusa, where I was like, I putts around and don't make a video for six goddamn months hey they're cool we're cool right prusa you're cool i i did have this revelation on on like a stream yesterday where i'm like hey i kind of have if everyone in my audience knows that i haven't done a brand video for prusa everyone i've done the job right it's kind of perfect viral marketing really because then there's a bunch of people feeling sympathy for prusa and if any of them needs a 3d printer they're like mark's not gonna make a video i gotta buy one of the others i guess yeah i help these guys out i gotta reach out and see if i get more sponsorships where i don't agree don't do what i agree to to see if guys the sympathy you'll garnish over the next five years will be crazy yeah i know right the sympathy if you get so many sympathy sales you're gonna it's gonna be through the roof it's the new it's the new generation of pain exposure thank you guys in sympathy just wait i don't really want a 3d printer but mark didn't do the video so i guess i'll get one that's an empath
28:37i really feel for prusa nuclear powered 3d printing would go hard what are we talking about nuclear nuclear anything nuclear this is just we're going nuclear today we're talking about power plants is nuclear power the way in a serious space the there's been developments i don't know what it is but there's been developments in thorium reactors uh i haven't checked up on it in thorium salt reactors. I don't think before it was practical. There was something about it that's practical. It was safer, but with thorium salts, there's a much lower power ratio you can get out of it in the current way that they make them.
29:17I forget what the main problem is though. There was something that was fundamentally a problem with it that needed more research to get further into it, right? Thorium, ironically, also was the thing that was coating those Minolta lenses that makes it radioactive. So you know it's good. Yeah, so thorium, it looks like, still involves using fissile fuel, so nuclear material. Molten salts are highly corrosive at extreme temperatures requiring advanced expensive alloys. There's not really a streamlined global framework for cooling and regulation because it's such a new technology, I guess. All right, so I think maybe the issue was that thorium, to become fissile, it needs to absorb a neutron to become uranium-233, but the problem is uranium-233 could quickly or fairly simply turn into plutonium.
30:07No, protactinium-233. The fuck is that? Oh, shit. What in the shit? Sounds like bad news. Never heard of that one. All right, okay, this is where we're starting to babble about things that we don't know about, and we're making all the actual nuclear engineers mad, which is my favorite thing to do. somehow still better than our brander brand slander you've coined a term for our brander i i i want you guys to settle something for me because i feel conflicted about this i've already said it once or twice but this is an honest to god debate and i think different crowds of different people come down on different sides of this the word is nuclear as in nucleus nuclear right yes nuclear i don't think any of the three of us say sincerely say nuclear because of our accents or anything but that is a way that a large proportion of uh like native english speaking people say that word much the same way as people pronounce like pillow as pillow or room as rum is someone in my room what weirdos would do that we are experts in speaking out loud so thus we are experts in language is nuclear is an acceptable way to pronounce the word or is it unacceptable because i feel strongly conflicted about this because there are deep parts of me that find it very funny that like george w bush said nuclear right he was the president of our country he was the leader of the free world whatever and he said that to me when i was a kid i was like he said it wrong we're gonna find her we're gonna nuclear read the word it's nuclear sir i think a linguist would say well language is kind of a living thing right so if someone's colloquial pronunciation is accepted as new nerd help me nerd man oh language is a living thing i've got a lot of like southern isms in my family so i feel like i've heard nuclear a bunch i mean i said nuclear if someone i'm talking to says nuclear i'll just continue to say nuclear do you like say it more emphatically to try and tell them that you're smarter than them I am but like Everyone knows I'm smarter than them But like What a thing to throw out there So to you it's acceptable Because like friends and family go there Friends and family have that I'm not going to like make a big deal out of it I don't care but for different reasons I just want to differentiate myself from him A little bit But I don't care just because It's not worth the fight There's so many If we're as a society to the point where we can start fighting about that stuff again, we're in a good place.
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32:50I think that that's a sign that society is progressing down to where we want to be. And until we get there again, I don't think that any of us can complain too much. You know what I mean? You get what I'm saying here? You understand what I'm getting at, what I'm stabbing at? You picking up what I'm stabbing? You stabbing what I'm stabbing? I'm stabbing it. I'll stab it with you. Okay, stab me. I'll stab you. Oh, oh, oh. Sam, where'd you even get that video of me stabbing Mark? Wow, look at all these different angles of him stabbing Mark. That's crazy. Whoa. We got a 4D Gaussian splat of me getting stabbed by Bob.
33:28Holy shit. Wait, we have a slow-mo angle from the knife's perspective. Oh my god, we've got the Minority Report psychic future view of Bob stabbing me. Dream sequence and everything? Wow, Sam, where'd you get that? That's crazy shit. That's production value right there. There's me as the dead wife under the bed sheets before I got stabbed. I don't know whose perspective we're looking at. I guess Amy's. What happened exactly? Hold on, where's the... I thought it was just you and Bob. Where's the wife come from? No, no, it's from Amy's perspective. So Amy's not in this. It's just me under the sheets.
34:01Ha ha ha ha ha. You know, the dead wife thing? Yeah. No, that's a thing. You can't act like I'm crazy. It doesn't seem like he knows. Everybody knows the dead wife thing Everybody knows the dead wife thing Yeah I can't tell if you're doing that just to piss him off Or if you actually sincerely have no idea We'll never know So back to nuclear or nuclear if you prefer I don't I don't either I guess what we're saying is If you're a watcher or a listener and you say nuclear But also good for you The noise For those listening Bob made a slight smirk As he gave that one light giggle They know what that noise means You don't have to explain my noises It was so light I barely even heard it That's the sound my ass makes after I ate too much Skyline No no that's wetter Aww Anyway let's get back to discussing how nuclear reactors function Right right right Wait can I talk about I meant to talk about this During small talk but Because there was something that was so funny That happened on my journeys And it's not necessarily The main point of my small talk but I met some fans Right So many things happening uh someone spotted me through my um through my mask which i'm like hey if you manage to get me through that like you it's totally fine i usually do in the airport both because i've never really no one cared who you were till you took off the mask exactly just like that that's that's what it was uh so i say hi i take a picture and we go our separate ways they were very nice um and they were even very nice afterwards uh and they posted the picture on the subreddit and it got tons of tons of votes for some reason.
35:36But in the comments of this, it's really funny because it just shows like some people's psychic perceptions, psychological perceptions of reality get distorted in some way because I don't know, it might be a joke, but someone's like set a comment is like, he's surprisingly average in height, blah, blah, blah. And the person responded, I'm 5 '9 and my friend is around the same height. He was shorter than us both, LOL. And I'm like, you posted the picture of us and in the picture i'm taller than both of you literally uh that was so nice of them to bend down to make you look taller i know that's what someone said like oh so kind of you to bend down so low for this but i'm like literally in the photo you posted i'm taller than both of you like what did why why would you do this to me commenter comes or original poster comes back And it's like, yeah, it's weird.
36:32Mark actually carries around his own Apple box to stand on for fan pictures. He's not as tall as he appears in this photograph. Got to make sure you explain it accurately. It's happened more than once. And you guys know, I'm not a tall guy. I never claimed to be a tall guy. But I am comfortably average in height. And it's just because you freaks make me look tiny. And no one understands how gigantic you both are. You both are like in the 99th percentile of height. And I was like, there's no way both of them can be that tall. He's got a beauty, beauty microscopic. And I'm like, yo! I mean, it's pretty unlikely that you'd have two such a freakishly tall friends.
37:09It is. Isn't that weird? Almost like it couldn't be so. And also like the other people in our friend group that are weirdly tall and above average. You know, I think Jesse is actually the same height as all of you guys. He's also six foot four for some fucking reason. In Cincinnati, they put something in the chili that I didn't get. I don't know. maybe I was destined to be 5 '1", but I ate the chili and I grew 9 inches. It's just like, I feel. You didn't get the big boy three-way? Did you just get the normal one? Actually, I didn't start eating Skyline until later, so maybe that was my problem.
37:39That's the thing, yeah. That's the thing. That's your mistake. Ignore the fact that I grew up in a different city. Nuclear-powered dildos. Nuclear-powered... Side tangent. Mark's fan... Whoa, what the fuck? Wait, your fan meetup triggered this memory in my head. Whoa, hold on a second. You can't go from nuclear powered dildos to, oh, this reminds me of you, Mark. Well, no, no. Before we get to the dildos. Before the dildos. Okay. Alright. Okay. Nothing to do with the dildos. Uh-huh. Wink. Molly and I were flying back, and apparently there's no direct flights from Richmond to Cincinnati, so we had to fly to Atlanta there.
38:13We had to fly to Detroit on the way back here. While in Detroit, we decided we wanted to get food, and the food place Molly and I decided on was like, we were in B terminal. This was in like the very end of A terminal, which I didn't know until I was getting there. It was a long walk. So we walked to our gate and we're drop off our bags. Like, hey, Molly, Molly said she'd sit with the bags while I go get food. And on the way, we're on one of those like little moving escalator platform sidewalk, whatever they call moving sidewalk. I don't know what the term is. Speedifiers. There's a guy on the phone looking out a window and he is just yelling and he's screaming and he's cursing into his phone.
38:48And as we approach, like people nearby are all watching this guy and he's getting more and more just like animated more and more angry and we're like that's gonna be a problem they're gonna someone's gonna come do something about that because like there's kids nearby this guy's just dropping f-bombs like he's on this podcast get to the gate set my stuff down go back guy is still cursing more people are kind of like watching seeing like hey something terrible about to happen don't want to miss it something horrible happened in his life i don't know but he's very angry at whoever he's on the phone with.
39:21I keep going. I get past them. I'm walking. It feels like a half an hour excursion to go get food. And Molly texts me updates like, hey, police came and talked to the guy. But now there's a lady who missed her flight. Very upset. She's like, I'm supposed to be first class. I blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you can't do this to me because they wouldn't let her board after the plane apparently had already left. I guess they were supposed to hold the whole plane up for her and she was late or something. I don't know. That does make it tricky. So police calmed the guy down. They're keeping an eye on him, but they've calmed him down.
39:49Now they're back talking to this lady. I get the food. I come all the way back. I get on one of the moving sidewalk things. And actually, there's the two police officers with that lady going right by me. Like, oh, well, I guess at least they whatever's happening. They're handling that. Get back, start eating food. We eat. I put on my headphones. I go back to watching my regularly scheduled Chernobyl on my tablet. And Molly like taps me and I look up and there's the two police officers just standing there smiling like arms crossed looking at me and i'm like hello uh hi they're like are you wade and i was like who's asking yes uh like dude we are such big fans and i was like oh thank god oh every because everyone in our like sitting areas like looking at me they're like these police officers have had to take care of two problematic people here already is this guy ground zero who is this mystery bald man so like i get up i take a picture with them they're very nice uh i'm like i was like oh thank god i didn't know what you guys were like i didn't know i don't know anything i didn't see what happened i take the picture and you know they head off and people are just staring i'm like don't worry just youtube i'm not actually important and i put my headphones back on and go back to watching but like i was the center of attention for a moment that's the first time that's happened and i see like them like go down one of the employee only staircases they get in their car because we're sitting in front of the window and they drive off so i think they saw me on a camera and drove back over to come say hi which is cool but headphones on after all these events looking up and just see like two cops staring at me I was like whatever it was I just got food I just got food I'm watching watching shows like Chernobyl it scared the shit out of me I was like I don't oh god what'd I do I didn't do anything wrong I swear Wade you get the segue point for my current story oh great I can contribute to this fans recognizing us in places where it's a whole situation this was another one where it's really attention I didn't want but it was it's not a huge deal it's just funny now we went to king's island and anyone who is large in the way that i am large knows the uncertainty that comes with roller coasters we went to king's island and we were like all right let's go on a coaster and literally like was talking to mandy and her brother about like all right so which coasters are like comfortable would be okay for me as a very like large even if you're just tall those roller coasters are tough so we we debated and it was like okay we're gonna go on this one we're gonna go on the what used to be the uh italian job one and is now just called like stunt coaster or something uh and we wait in line and we get all the way up there i they don't have like a test seat so i have no idea if i'm gonna fit we get all the way to the front they we it's our turn we're going to get in and anyone who's a fat guy like me has had this experience where like i get in and i pull it and it goes like click click click and i'm like okay it clicked a bunch and the guy comes over and is like ah i can't see i have to see this line for and i'm like okay yeah yeah click one more is that good and he's like nah nah it needs like a few more still it's like step on it i'll suck in my god you step on it and literally this guy's like all right man and just like and i'm like yeah do it do it this is gonna be great i'll survive and like if they do it and it clicks a couple more times and finally he calls his buddy over and they look and they're like no, we have to see the line clearly past this.
43:04It's that's not enough. And I'm like, all right, I'm too fat. And the way they build roller coasters, of course, they can't just unbuckle me and be like, all right, you off. They're like, all right, everybody, we're going to have to unbuckle your seatbelts or just stay in your seats. There's just a really big fat guy up at the front of the roller coaster is not going to fit. So just pull it right back down and we'll just make him leave while you do that. And so it was like, everything opens and everyone's kind of like, oh, what? I climb out. And as I'm like trying to climb out really awkward and feeling bad about myself, the guy who was stepping on my lap bar to try and make me fit was like, wait a minute.
43:46Are you Bob? Literally, we were at the front of the train in front of everyone else. And he's like, are you Bob for Distractable? Guys, this is Bob. I was like, cool. Yeah, cool. Hey, do you want to make these people wait while we take a picture really quickly? You go to everybody, you're like, all right, everybody, bust out your coins. Time to start flipping.
44:12Suffice to say, he didn't ask for a picture, but we didn't take one. I just like ran away like, I'm not him. Ran and hid somewhere in my shame. But what a moment for someone to just be like, wait, I know you. Look, everybody. Another annoying ass thing about those roller coasters, they do put them like super tight on you. When you're big, like it goes all like it's in your gut. But a lot of the way that they release is they don't just pop up. You have to push down more for it to release. Oh, God. Oh, God. I've seen like people have to have like the things fucking removed because they put it so tight on you.
44:50And when they come around, they push down. They're like, don't give a fuck if it's already tight on you. And it's like and then you go to get off the thing. and it's like guys help they're like oh don't worry but sometimes they can't get it in far enough so they have to come and fucking like disassemble the goddamn thing to get you out it's the best it's the best yeah because those things are built for like you know i guess kids and if you have to be able to fit kids and people i don't know up to really tall but they're built for mark-sized humans hey i was about to say yeah i never have these problem guys i i hate to say it but imagine being average.
45:24I don't remember what the rule is for insulting Mark, but Bob, you've got two points for Mark insults already. That wasn't an insult. He's average. I didn't call him short at all. I said he's average. Why is that an insult, man? That's not a short joke. Yeah, you freaks. You freaks. Fuck, does that mean I insulted him by thinking it was an insult? I think, yeah, you did. Wait a minute, yeah. What the hell, man? All right. I mean, because you got one insult Mark point then. For the pillow rum thing, because that was definitely. Was that targeted? No, that was I was specifically targeting my high school friend, Peter.
45:55I don't know if you listen to the show, Peter, but yes, I remember that you say pillow wrong, Peter. Peter, if you're listening to this, you need to run. Peter, this is you're in a coma. You need to wake up. This is your sign. Hey, Peter, run. Hey, Peter. All right. Well, I gave myself one Mark insult point. Those two combined have to be at least one Mark insult, right? I wasn't targeting Mark at all. the word that marks as funny was not in part of my examples i mean i say room kind of funny apparently it kind of is it's still it's not a room it's room it's gloom the bedroom what are we talking about nuclear bombs clear icbms uh nuclear underpants radioactive you know they used to have radium things to make your water radioactive i just saw uh there used to just straight up be take sure is the only thing about which is this has a shitload of radium in it drink this and you'll get your daily dose of radium which you want yep that's it between that and like lead products like um we were seeing a thing about the diatlov pass i don't know if you guys are familiar with that one where people went like hiking and ended up all being dead or whatever and then there was uh did they solve the diatlov pass mystery ultimately they concluded like five or six years ago there was like a a guy that went out and said yes they think what ended up happening was there was an avalanche like a minor a minor avalanche that came down and hit the tent which is like usually the precursor to a bigger avalanche so i think that the people burst out of the tent to run away thinking there was another avalanche but since there wasn't a bigger one they were just out there fucking freezing to death because they didn't get all their stuff in time because they were running thinking there's gonna be an avalanche they tried building like a little campfire or hiding under like some some rock structure ended up collapsing Ultimately hypothermia and they for all froze to death or got crushed by shit to death Thinking they were escaping an avalanche that never came Couldn't be me I have this regular thought experiment I'm like okay what if I was transported into the Siberian wilderness Like boom I'm naked in the middle of the frozen tundra What do I do?
47:58And the answer shockingly isn't die immediately I figure away You figure away? Non-specifically I figure it out Once I watch enough Outdoor Boys YouTube channel videos, I'll know exactly what to do. Nothing makes your brain move faster than the cold, right? Yeah. I absolutely have that same confidence. I've never once started a fire without the aid of like a lighter and flammable shit. I would definitely figure it out. I would, within the first few hours, I would have camp set up. I would have enough shelter with some kind of fire that I would survive, that I'd have to work out food because you have to figure out the food situation.
48:36but that's not as immediately pressing as dying of exposure. So yeah, I figured I see what you're saying. I figured it out. I was thinking of the Franklin expedition, which was like 160 odd years ago. So 10 cans used to not be 10 cans. They were lead cans and a lot of food. So they had this long expedition where they were trying to find a trade route through like the Arctic, all of their meals. They were like eating out of lead cans, which, you know, how good lead is for you. And then they got stuck in the ice and a bunch of shit went wrong. and they all died whatever how have you but like yeah lead we used to eat lead we're just like oh lead paint lead cans lead i know about this because i went to norway and so you get it from the norwegian perspective of the people they were racing to find like an arctic path and then the first to the south pole is also another part of that and every time from the norwegian's perspective was just like yeah and then the british really fucked up there they did not know what they were doing at all and it's like especially to the south pole one where it's like the norwegian expedition is like oh it's such a race it's very arduous you know they have to send people back all the time and they get there and they're first they plant their flag from the british perspective it's like and then 13 people died on the first leg and then they shot all their horses on the second leg and then they lost another person and there were four people left to climb the last ridge and one person went there and or uh maybe a few and then they get there and there's already a Norwegian flag after all of their people died and their horses are dead.
50:02They did not make it back. They all died. So yeah, from the Norwegian perspective, Franklin's Lost Expedition does not surprise me. I'm curious what we're going to find. I'm sure something with fast food will come out in like 200 years where they're like, these fuckers voluntarily went and spent their money eating this poison? Plastics. It's definitely microplastics, yeah. At least we're aware, you know, but there's probably something we're not aware of, right? I'm already like 18 % microplastic. When I die, I'm either going to be buried or recycled. I'm too much plastic to be cremated. I'm bad for the environment.
50:35That's true. Sadly, you can't recycle plastic. Can't you? Well, you can, but they don't. I've been so disheartened because when I get my trash collected, I see them pick up the garbage can, throw it in the back, and then I see them pick up the recycling can, throw it in the same spot, and I go, oh, man. Maybe there's a... There's like a divider. And I still I still separate my recycle I still do it even though I know what's Happening to it there I'm still like I'm Doing my part I can't Imagine not I know that it's not This is just like a privilege thing because I Grew up in a in a better Off neighborhood and whatever I grew up where I Grew up I grew up we had recycling Like my whole childhood as far as I remember So literally the way you take the trash Out is you separate out the recycling and Take it out and you have two bins and that it's always been like that and i can't i can't even imagine not because because i like you i'm sort of disillusioned about the state of industrial recycling and what what they actually do with any of the stuff and that i pay for the extra recycling service seems really stupid but like it's a compulsion how do you put out your trash if you're not separating the recycling and like making sure like oh this is a number one that can go in the recycling that's good okay i have neighbors in the neighborhood I live in now who just have just a trash can.
51:56And my brain is like, what do you just keep your recycling? What do you recycle yourself? My grandparents did that. They would keep the recycling and take it in themselves. They got one of those like can crushers where they just put the cans. I love that. I feel like I would be better off just trying getting a smelter and melting all my aluminum cans down and smelting it, smelting out and I could smelt it into things. Dude, you could you could make your own custom heat sinks, get some kind of mold. Well, you have 3D printers, right? So you could 3D print and then make a sandcast of your 3D print and then use the sand molding to make perfect little shelves.
52:30You can make them with Capri Sun insert slots for cooling. I just melt down the Capri Suns. Do you ever watch Nighthawk in lights videos? They're the person that got me into Glauber's salt. I do not. They made a video about two weeks ago that had a... It's to make flow batteries, and it's not about flow batteries. It kind of tangentially nuclear, so I'll take some points for this. But it's like he's making.
52:59I don't know. That's how this one works. He's making a flow battery and he needs like this sort of graphite material to have like a lot of surface area for the anode and cathode. Right. Of a battery. And it's like there's this extremely expensive material that you can buy in bulk, but it's expensive. But you can make your own using this carbon insulation material that then you strip with some fluid and then put in your microwave kiln and microwave till it's 2000 degrees or something like that. And I'm like, holy shit. This is why I think microwaves don't work the way people say they do, because it's just like he had it in this.
53:35Is that safe to go that high? He had it outside. So it's perfectly fine. But it's just like, I know they say like, oh, it heats up by water molecules vibrating. And that's what heats your food. And I go like, well, then why when you put aluminum foil into it, it turns into plasma. What water molecules are vibrating to do that? And I'm like, I want to make a microwave smelter. Well, I don't know why that wouldn't work. I couldn't tell you why it would work either, but I definitely don't know why it wouldn't work. in Los Angeles, this is probably the best thing I could do. Does not sound like the headline of the next fire that destroys a major residential area at all.
54:16What would you be smelting? Metal. Aluminum cans. I'm recycling. I'm helping the environment. There's only so many things you could smelt at home. You can't be doing high temperature complicated shit. Call me crazy here, but isn't that the one thing you're not supposed to put in a microwave is metal? No, no. They just say that so you don't discover it. It's dangerous if you're not doing it on purpose. It's dangerous because you might do something you're not expecting. Isn't it dangerous if you do it on purpose? It just becomes a plasma. What about that one YouTuber who created like a 20 ,000 watt microwave?
54:51Are you talking about William Osmond? No, StyroPyro. Have you seen his 40, like 400 car battery experiment? Yes. That just literally melts and causes the magnet. It feels so strong. all the wires to the thing. He made a microwave that was unbelievable. He called it a macrowave. Dude, I get nervous just plugging things into the wall. I wouldn't fuck with that. Yeah, well, he seems to not care about that, so maybe you should reevaluate your priorities. I'm a coward. You are a coward. I'll take some points for that. Can I just say, as a... I would never insult Mark. First opportunity, Wade, you fucking bitch.
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56:07I know as a completely ignorant non-scientist myself, how the fuck do we have things that are so ubiquitous that we don't understand the technology? Do we sincerely not really understand how microwaves work? Because every house in America definitely has at least one of those bad boys sitting somewhere inside that makes popcorn once every two months at minimum. It's no there it's understood how like the microwaves are generated the wave guide putting them in there the the kind of But like it's not clear how it heats things up or why aluminum becomes plaz Like I know that you've said that but like that's a thing right people are like oh we don't even know how it works completely I think I don't know how it works completely I'm sure there's plenty of scientists that could explain it better than I could It probably does make water molecules vibrate in food.
56:58And then it also does other things depending on the material. Like it might. Scientists explain it to me like I'm a host on Distractable. Whatever intelligence level you think that represents. But that's a that's maybe it's just complicated or hard for normies to understand. You're not the first and or only person I've heard say that, right? It's a common like it's one of those things people just throw out. We're like, ah, we don't even really know how microwaves work. There has to be some amount of truth to that, or maybe we didn't for a long time or something. Obviously not, because they make them so they know how to make the thing that emits the microwaves to begin with, and they contain them, theoretically, so that it's safe to be in your house.
57:37But there's some mystery in it. What's the mystery? You got me, but it makes things hot. It makes a hell of a good pizza roll if you do it right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you telling me you microwave pizza rolls? Tell me you do this to yourself on purpose What's wrong with that? I find a way to make them better there Than I feel like they come out in the oven Whoa, wrong I know it's a hell of an accusation There's one thing that microwaves don't do It's make anything in the known universe Crispy And that's the only thing I want with my pizza rolls Is a little bit of crispiness If you overcook them in the microwave They do come out crispy And I feel like they're better than when they're in the oven I haven't had pizza rolls since I've gotten an air fryer, but I bet an air fryer would do it really well.
58:23Dude, air fryer's the way. Air fryer's the truth when it comes to pizza rolls. Air fryer's basically just an oven with a fan. It's a convection oven. Yeah. But it's small, so you can put only the amount of food you actually want to eat inside of it. Which is problematic if what you want to eat is 20 chicken wings. 20 chicken wings would fit in my air fryer. You just have to have the right air fryer. I'm hungry, so I still haven't eaten lunch. Nuclear! We've really gone nuclear. We've gone microwave. we've gone Kings Island we've gone plastics I will say I think that modern nuclear technology probably is pretty safe and if it's made not cheaply incorrectly it probably is oh absolutely yeah but like I guess long-term ramifications are like is it safe 500 years from now like does the how how do they replace all the infrastructure I'm sure there's probably a plan hopefully in place also there is nuclear waste and the way that the half-life of nuclear material works is it radiation and shit like that sticks around a while so eventually you're gonna have a lot of waste that's what i was gonna say is i'm not an expert but my understanding is that nuclear power is actually the just as safe as current standards and also like the most environmentally effective version of generating electricity except it does generate nuclear waste and our current solution for that is put in that big fucking mountain and nobody go over there and we'll just hope that never fills all the way up so we could keep putting it in that big mountain that we made um but like yeah assume that at some point in the future someone will invent the whatever device and it will remanufacture nuclear waste into probably puppy food or diapers for babies who knows my baby's ass is glowing is that normal doctor oh so you could change it in the dark without having to turn on the lights and wake your poor baby well i mean okay the thing about nuclear waste is it really doesn't generate that much compared to other energy mediums because nuclear power is so dense compared to other any other form of it so either we put it in one spot in the ground and don't touch it which you know someone could i guess sabotage it or we do what we currently do which is shoot it all in the air like all the byproducts just up why can't we just launch our nuclear waste to the moon oh i thought you said sun uh fancy i do you almost had a smart idea yeah see i guess it would be expensive to put it in a thing that's safe to get through the atmosphere and then also its job is to go explode on the sun it's like restaurants in the 90s we just need to make sure that we're in the non-smoking section of the earth and everyone else can have the nuclear fallout when that happens right maybe yeah actually we just we just put a big non-nuclear sign over america and that'll keep all the nuclear dust out of our atmosphere we just designate some parts of the world as being the ew zone and we'll put all of our ew there.
1:01:14Do we already have that? Isn't it called the ew? We could I had an idea. You can say it. I'll just take my points. I forgot what it was. Is that how this episode works? You just ask for points? He didn't ask. He told. Yeah, yeah. I'll just take them. That's true. Alright, well that's nuclear power everyone. We've done it. We've gone nuclear. The waste. We're just going to launch it into a mountain and if you guys finally want housing to be affordable just buy it near the nuclear waste site i remember why can't we throw it in a volcano that thing you said about it going in the atmosphere i think a volcano would just be a much cooler version of that wouldn't it no you throw it in there it'll melt down see we're putting all of our waste up and then you take a big cork and you go and now it stays in there till it's all gone see this is why science works in teams you got the ideas all build.
1:02:05And then you're pressure cooking it so you can use it again. Yeah, yeah. What if I put it in a can crusher and I put that in my microwave and I turn it into something else? It will become a plasma, which I've heard is a good thing to donate to blood banks, so I assume is a good thing. I got nuclear powered plasma running through my veins. I have at least three days to live. that'd be a long time you kind of don't want that at that point if you get nuclear plasma in your blood now uh one thing i learned is how awful radiation sickness and death is from when you were a problem in the airport and the police interrupted your chernobyl watching yeah i was talking i was like guys listen what if we all just go to chernobyl as one we could all be a cult and the police came up they're like hey we want your photograph like sure that seems normal this This reminds me of a story that I don't think I told.
1:02:59Did I tell when I went from Poland to back to America and we were in line for the security? And then someone walked through these two little pylons and one of them started beeping, right? And it was one of those beeps where I was like, that's a new one. Haven't heard that one before. And everyone goes quiet. And it's quiet for like a minute before this guy, security guard, comes out. And he's got a hand detector for something. And he's waving it like this. Okay. and it's not like clicking like a geiger counter it's beeping and he's just sweeping around looking around everyone's dead silent looking at this guy and he's just and he goes up to someone there's a woman who i thought was like holding a baby and he's holding the thing right up to what i think is a baby and it's going and he just was like just gestures with his finger i'm not hearing any words exchange and it's like they're slowly meandering and what'll happen is this guy keeps waving it as he's going but he's like follow me they go through the pylons it goes beep again and every once in a while he'll stop turn around go to the people that are following him and it's like taking a couple steps at a time he's swinging around come with me and then they left no announcement nothing was said everyone just resumed back into security.
1:04:19No clue what it was. I have no idea. It was at the Poland airport. Anybody know what that was? It's actually just a system they used to keep order. He gets all those people back to the back and they're all terrified and he's like, it's okay. We're just going to look at your passports and then you can go. We just use that to keep the crowds chilled out. Everyone out there is going to be freaked out for the whole rest of the time they're here. It's great. It's actually a detector for full arts, really valuable Pokemon cards. Whenever that went off, the guy knew that she had one. He's like, I got to confiscate this.
1:04:47Kept it in a baby papoose, just like it's just cards all the way down. I had to buy a little like carry-on bag to bring the cards back because our suitcase was already so full going there. I was like, you stuffed a carry-on full of Pokemon cards. You have a problem. Sounds like a federal crime or something. Cross state lines. Did you pay taxes on that? It went through their scanner. They let me through. I guess I could have driven it across state lines and it would have been fine too. That's weird. I hope someone tells us what that meant because now I'm curious. I want to know what that was. I'll take some points for Mark's story.
1:05:20Thanks. Can I get the same? You guys are certainly getting something. Well, it's points, I assume. Any final thoughts on nuclear? I'm going to wrap this one up. I don't know if I had any original thoughts on nuclear, but you're welcome. Great. That's how this show works. I bring up a topic and you just don't give a fuck. Yeah, pretty much. Bounty! Bounty! Bounty! Oh, what is that? It's a picture of my dog in a distractible merch. Oh, shit. How do we confirm this? Is there a... We have to look at the bounty list? What do you mean, how do we confirm this? I'm showing you what... Oh, you mean how do we confirm it's a bounty?
1:05:56Yeah, it's on the list. That is on the official list on the subreddit. That is a bounty. I had a picture of the moon, and I, for some reason, couldn't find it. I was like, I had a picture that I managed to take with my GoPro. of like it through a telephoto lens and I got a good picture of it and I can't find it. So I ran out and I put the shirt on Chica and I put it on. Number four on the May list of bounty additions. Recent Persimmon 4148. Get a picture of their dog in distractible merch. Shirt, specifically shirt, which he did do. All right. Bounty confirmed. Old Redeen, that's our first bounty.
1:06:38That's what I'm talking about. I forgot to get the coin flip right after I walked away from those fans. I was like, fuck, ah, shit, I completely forgot. Yeah, now that you say it, I had a hell of a way to bookend that story of me holding up the entire rollercoaster ride if I had just done the coin flip thing then and there, but it didn't fucking occur to me. I wish I'd pull out a coin, turn to the cops and been like, I want to play a game. Well, that's why when we have this thing and people will, Sam, don't put this in. When we have this, you know, when it's ready, we'll have this always on us.
1:07:06Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I think you should leave that, but just say I'm blur to death so they have no idea what's happening. You'll love that when you get to know what it is. I guarantee it. I'm like the men's warehouse guy. We'll go through the points. Bob, you got points for... Like a dog biting a mailman. Nuclear. Hello. Room. Peter slash not mark jab. Mark sized human. Not an insult. Called me a coward. Yes, insult. Fan in the worst way at King's Island. And you got some points for winning points. Mark, you got points for a thick cedar picture. Thorium salt reactor. If people are saying nuclear, society's in a good place.
1:07:47If we're fighting over the way to say words. Learning about the Franklin Expedition in Norway. I asked what would be the thing in 200 years we look back on our era and be like, mm, bad idea. You said plastic very quickly. You met some very tall fans. You had a tangential nuclear story. you brought up the macro microwave stuff you asked for points a couple times you had a couple points for asking for them uh and then you got the i gave you three points for the bounty because it's the first bounty we've ever done we said two to three points it's our first ever bounty so i gave out the three uh our totals it was 11 to 7 mark and then mark got three for the bounty so you didn't really need to use that bounty here so it's 14 to 7 wait a minute whoa whoa three i thought regular bounties were one i thought we said two to three judges i only gave three i would say something that's as low effort as getting your dog picture in a shirt is doesn't rise to the level of like oh that's an extraordinary bounty that's not a super hard one i would agree that it's a two pointer but i gave a point for it being the first ever bounty redeemed oh jesus wow all right well so and i figured if he was going to use it on an episode he was already dominating might as well give him the point now for it right come on golf rules let's do this all right oh and i have four points one of which is a mark insult because i thought bob insulted mark but it was really just me insulting him on the inside or something it's your own prejudice shining through you jerk oh great wheel we ask you how many spins will we do today
1:09:22two it is thank you we need to pick me up you know sometimes people just have a bad time or a bad week so i'm gonna add had the worst time since we last spoke because you know what a point for that at least means you're getting something out of it that's good that's good i hope i get that one i had a great week but you know got 113 options like one of them will save me in this situation. I got two spins to find it. What are the odds? Let's go, baby. It's only between you two, right? Since I'm on the board with four, it wouldn't go to me. I don't know. I don't think we've ever had that precedence.
1:09:56Post interruptions of the other guy. Which other guy? I don't remember what that means. I think whenever one of the competitors is talking, the other person interrupts a bunch, because that's kind of what I do. Yeah, but we have a separate rule where if none of us can remember what the rule is, we delete it, but I think we know what that one is. Is that a re-spin, or do you want to call that way because we probably interrupted each other but it wasn't aggressive this episode or anything it doesn't stand out I would say re-spin spin number one part two mention their significant other the most I said Amy I both of you mentioned your significant others and I did not mention Mandy a single time I don't think I would have if I had done small talk I will be honest my small talk included Mandy I had it prepared we'll never know.
1:10:42Yeah, probably forget it by the time we record the next one. Anyway, come on golf rules. Come on. Okay. It's minus one to current loser. Is that me or you? Because I'm on the board. If you can't win, it's me because you're not the winner or the loser. You're the host. So that means I'm the current loser. That's hilarious. You get a bad day. You just need to make it worse. back to my old ways with the random chance games i love this for me let's flip some coins i'm feeling it guys final score is uh me with five oh no bob with six okay i beat wade thank god mark with 15 holy shit that might be one of the biggest point differentials we've had at least in recent memory mark really went off at the end there uh and then he had the bounty on top of it So yeah, Bob, loser speech.
1:11:41Sometimes the universe speaks to you. And who am I to question the wisdom of the universe? I suck and I deserve to lose. So says the wheel. So says the universe. So it must be true. Today, it's just the truth of everything. I suck. I should not have won. And I did not win. And the one who should have won clearly did. So thank you, universe, for your infinite wisdom. Thank you, Wade, for not giving me any points for most of what I said. And congratulations to Mark, clearly the better competitor and person on today's episode. Uh, Mark, our liege, our king, our leader, our most dominant winner. Would you like to give a winner's speech?
1:12:22My goodness, I can barely be humble with all these accolades being heaped upon me, but I will humbly accept them all. I did it. Whatever I did, whenever I was saying the random stuff, and we were both saying pretty random things the entire time, I said it better somehow. Which just shows that fate aligned with me on this day. What Bob said was right. It was purely the gods above smiling down upon us. And I think that that is something you can just let happen. You don't need to mention it a lot. You don't need to look it in the eye. It's just happening. I'm not going to say I did anything about it because that will keep it going.
1:12:56So long as I don't acknowledge it ever happened, my winning streak will continue and the good luck will shower upon me. for the moment that I look it in the eye it will turn on me and it will rip me from twain to twain both twains both my twains are gonna be ripped straight out from Mark all the way to Shania yeah your host speech both of them don't like the way I did points even though Mark won with them so I won't be winning again anytime soon so enjoy this while it lasts I'll see you all next season whenever I host again congratulations if you haven't already go follow Bob at my skirt Mark at Markiplier don't follow me stay tuned for the next one we're Mark will host and we'll probably definitely not do the perfect Instagram unless podcast out this episode is brought to you by ChatGPT hey it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons podcast have you guys heard about ChatGPT work it's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects and when you need more than just answers give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports.
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